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FC Syunik

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Fails GNG, depends on single source, previously deleted. 🦅Durjan Singh Jadon (talk) 19:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, recently became a first-tier team. Please search for their name in Armenian. Geschichte (talk) 20:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep top tier team certainly satisfies GNG Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 00:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Surf Office

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Unsourced. Does not pass GNG. ✶Qux yz ✶ 18:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Article is unsourced, so no help. This [1] talks about the company, but it's not enough. Oaktree b (talk) 19:21, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2019 European Mixed Team Badminton Championships qualification stage

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No independent RS on the page. Even if the championships are notable, the qualification stages are not without RS coverage. JMWt (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Boston Basketball Partners

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Non-notable holding company, notable only for its legal structure as the ownership entity of the Boston Celtics. Redirect to Boston Celtics as WP:ATD. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE business coverage. Longhornsg (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - can easily be merged into the Boston Celtics. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spurs Sports & Entertainment

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The holding company is not-notable and fails WP:NCORP. The article is primarily content about the San Antonio Spurs, not the holding company, then a WP:SYNTHed-together reporting of the holding company's portfolio. Longhornsg (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - sports teams holding companies often are notable. Doing a before search brings up many hits for the company. Mostly books related to sports management. But I agree, the article should be redone to be less focused on the Spurs. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some books have had multiple pages dedicated to SS&E, such as these, and they are national authors too rather than local San Antonio coverage.

https://books.google.com/books?id=C9SbUYGyCvcC&pg=PA335&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgMEAM

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transforming_San_Antonio/-ETpCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&pg=PA180&printsec=frontcover

https://books.google.com/books?id=gVlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PP3&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgNEAM

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZSziAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijo4DawcSNAxWgO0QIHftkCnw4ChDoAXoECAUQAw ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The sources present in the article already demonstrates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This just meets WP:GNG. I actually do think that content like this article, Green Bay Packers, Inc., and so on would be better contextualized in the team's article, but I don't see a basis in policy to delete them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: References used in this article demonstrate the notability of the subject. Passes WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep. This source on Forbes is independent and reliable and counts towards GNG. this source is secondary and onpy partially contributes to GNG. The remaining sources are passing mentions, blogs, or not independent. Overall sourcing needs improvement. Flibirigit (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 15:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Several articles are present that will establish notability.Goodboyjj (talk) 06:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - And I mean weak. Holding companies typically are not notable as its their holdings that normally generate the WP:ORGCRIT needed for notability and notability would not be inherent simply because its the parent. However, the fact it gets attention in numerous books would push this to notability for me. Note that the Forbes reference would fall under WP:FORBESCON so I would not consider it for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Per the available sources. The subject passes WP:GNG.MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James P Mahon

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Refbombed promotion for non notable individual. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Many sources but most are by him instead of about him. A little bit of local interest puff but nothing significant. Awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I have decided not to make a specific recommendation here. Yet. As, frankly, I wonder if I can leave aside the years of WP:COI and WP:REFBOMB concerns that I've struggled with on this title. And, perhaps, any !vote contribution from me may not be fully objective. However, I have long wondered whether WP:BASIC and WP:JOURNALIST and WP:NACADEMIC are met here. As, IMO, there is limited evidence that the subject has received significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. The sources (in the article and seemingly those that are available) are almost all either written by the subject (some about himself and others just things he has written generally), or by entities associated with the subject (university bio profiles, Huffington Post profile, news employer bio, etc), or are just trivial passing mentions. The only three sources, of which the subject is a primary topic and which are could be considered somewhat independent, are the three pieces in the local Clare Champion newspaper (from 2013, 2021 & 2022). And, personally, I'd question whether these are fully independent. Or whether these types of "local boy graduates" stories materially contribute to notability. Any more than this "former co-worker wrote autobiography" piece is strictly independent. Anyway. If I was confident that years of COI/REFBOMB/FV annoyance with this title weren't influencing my recommendation, I'd probably lean "delete". But, being perfectly frank and hopefully somewhat self-aware, I'm not convinced would be an entirely objective recommendation (based entirely on NBIO merit).... Guliolopez (talk) 11:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This was a tricky one to try and assess. Ultimately I think notability is not there. There is some coverage but is it significant? I think not. Looking at the academic side, I don't think the research and published works are there yet. The awards are non-notable really and as for the references, most are published own works. It almost feels kind of WP:Auto even if it isn't. Coldupnorth (talk) 19:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shafiullah Al Munir

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The individual clearly does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:GNG and WP:BIO. WP:NOTCV. If they wish to share their résumé or create a personal webpage, they are encouraged to use one of the many free website providers available online or the hosting service included with their internet service provider. Charlie (talk) 13:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The subject meets WP:GNG, with multiple reliable sources covering his roles as the head of a national government federation 1, 2, chair of an international body 3, 4, the first Bangladeshi representative in an international federation 5, 6, chair of a major international tournament 7, vice president of several national government federations 8, and as a notable business figure 9, 10, 11, 12.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:56, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: This is a WP:PAID article. Owais Al Qarni has been paid by Anim on behalf of Shafiullah Al Munir.[2] --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The editor has clearly mentioned this on their talk page, so that resolves part of the issue. The other part is that if someone has paid you to write an article, then as per WP:COI, new articles should go through the Articles for Creation process so they can be reviewed before being published, even if the editor holds NPP or autopatroller rights. That’s the part that remains a concern. Also, we should now focus on whether the subject genuinely meets the criteria for having a Wikipedia page. Charlie (talk) 15:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non notable, fails WP:GNG. Most of the sources are interview masquerading as an article, i.e., directly quoting the subject or typical news i.e "Shafiullah Al Munir appointed Chairman of ...". I don’t see any substantial references. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the references are paid, especially considering the subject paid for this Wikipedia article. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What the author describes as "sources covering him" with respect to various sports organizations, are almost all press releases ("has announced", "issued a notification", "announcement was officially made", a "press release" said, etc.). The few exceptions among the sports-related, such as [3], are not significant coverage of Munir. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Other sources discuss his failed political bid, divorce, imprisonment and torture, feud with another business magnate, and the collapse of his business. Some or all of that might make him notable, but surprise, surprise, there's no mention of any of it in the biography he paid for. We don't keep whitewashed paid bios that violate WP:NPOV. I would be willing to consider draftify if Owais Al Qarni wants to take another stab at writing a balanced article, and is willing to let it go through the AfC review process instead of just moving it back to mainspace himself. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - there are several articles that help establish notability such as 1, 2, 3 and 4. If there are issues with content then Draftity is an option.Darkm777 (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Umm... Three of those four links are to the same press release. An employer's press release about an appointment does not present an independent view of the appointee. They have every reason make the appointee look good and to promote them. The Dhaka Tribune article is independent, but is not significant coverage. About the most one could squeeze out of it would be two sentences: "Munir was appointed president of the Bangladesh Cycling Federation in May 2018. He resigned, citing ill health, on 2 March 2020". --Worldbruce (talk) 19:22, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cosm (company)

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I stumbled upon this article after looking at the LiveLike VR article that was nominated for deletion. Three sources are given in the article, one of which is a press release, and another doesn't exist at all. Fails WP:NCORP. Madeleine (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm sure this can fall under WP:PROMO as well. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; widespread coverage. // Gargaj (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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FIS Freestyle Ski and Snowboarding World Championships 2027

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Might just be WP:TOOSOON for an event two years out. More sourcing would have to be found to warrant a standalone article right now. JTtheOG (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It's the next of this tournament, it is not a yearly a tournament, and the article will be needed eventually Servite et contribuere (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I couldn't find any sustained coverage of this event yet, just an announcement about the host. Not enough to keep and there isn't enough in the article to draftify. Esolo5002 (talk) 01:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports Kyoushitsu

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Fails WP:GNG. Other language wiki page has no sources that support notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Longstanding (1961-2017) series broadcasted nationally on NHK. WP:NTVNATL. DCsansei (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RS:X Youth World Championships

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The list of championships includes only 13 events, none of which have their own Wikipedia article. This leads me to believe the page may violate notability guidelines. I think it should be merged back into the main article, as it doesn't meet the criteria for a standalone page. However, given the heavy reliance on primary sources, there may be little, if any, content worth merging. Johnson524 06:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see how you can ever reach that conclusion. It is a World Championship formally recognised by the IOC recognised sporting body. To add to this it is the "Youth" World Championship on the same equipment as used in the Olympic Games hence a number of high profile sailors. All the content for this has been on wikipedia for a number of years in templates. As per a previously agreed policy with other editors who requested that the events side is not on the same page as the equipment these event pages for each title were created. The title definately meets the sports notability requirement although I doubt individual event do. I will work more on the referencing but even this is much better than the previous 10 years. I would say this page also demostrates the usefullness of wikipedia as the official website for the RS:X disappeared within 18 months of the equipment not being used as Olympic equipment. The event is no longer held. Yachty4000 (talk) 01:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not seeing significant independent coverage indicating notability. Mainly insider publications. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to RS:X#Youth Sailing World Championships seems fine here, there's hardly enough content to necessitate a stand-alone article. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 09:54, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Joshua Shim

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This is a pretty low-level U Sports and indoor football player. Fails GNG. Couldn't find any sources of substance. Looks like COI editing. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment COI wouldn't shock me either. Based on the author's username and the blurb on their userpage, this sorta smells like a coach trying to get his player some exposure. Though I've been wrong before! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Also, please note that I cleaned up the article a little, so what we're looking at now is not how I found it. It falsely had USC Trojans football as a link in the infobox even though he was only a student there. There were also seven unrelated navboxes at the bottom of the article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Michael Hutchings (American football coach)

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Article does not include any GNG-level sourcing, and a WP:BEFORE search does not reveal any GNG sources. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources are compelling — I had been looking for coaching sources and didn't find any sigcov, but it looks like he might be notable as a player from his college career? 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Week delete: The issues on the article lacking inline citation is a real problem, articles cites more unreliable sources, even if the subject might be notable, the created piece fails WP:GNG for that reason. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 22:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability isn't based on the article quality (WP:CONTN). I removed the X (Twitter) source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you can make a good improvement on the article and add some of the sources you listed on the discussion on the article and develop the article maybe I can consider changing my comment, placing the source here without adding it on the article won’t help much. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 00:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes GNG. Somewhat borderline but I think being an NFL coach puts him over the bar of notability. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He is the current Safeties coach for the Minnesota Viking. That is notable. If you have any problems with that you can look at the Minnesota Vikings website.'~DakotaBoy89~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by DakotaBoy89 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC) [reply]

Omar Cook (American football)

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Promotion for non notable actor. Best known for his role in the film God of Dreams (2022)? Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails GNG and lacks SIGCOV. His American football career is very minor, his acting career is very minor. In both instances there is nothing to even prove these very minor accomplishments. The article was started, and most of the subsequent edits were made, by the same editor who has exclusively edited on this page also suggesting a potential COI violation too. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 14:16, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV, either in the article, newspapers.com, or google. Cook was also a coach at one point per [[12]], but that article isn't independent. Let'srun (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New England Nightmare

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No significant edits for several years. Google search for references turns up only things about Halloween or bad news for the New England Patriots. It is unclear how this article can be salvaged. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 10:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Some sources: [13][14] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Manchester Freedom

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Fails WP:SPORTBASIC, not updated in over ten years. Unlikely to be salvageable at this point. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 23:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. WP:SPORTBASIC appears to apply to bios not teams. WP:NTEAM says that there are no special notability criteria for teams other than those listed under particular sports and American football doesn't seem to be listed on that page? This defunct team appears to have been covered somewhat regularly by the Manchester, Nashua, and Keene newspapers with occasional coverage elsewhere. Jahaza (talk) 06:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It's unclear what you're referring to: there are three references in the article. There is no coverage by newspapers from Nashua or Manchester(the first reference is a wire story), and only one story from Keene. "Somewhat regularly" would infer that they would have coverage of all, if not most, of their games in addition to other coverage. If this coverage exists, why has it not been added in the last decade? If you can assist with adding these references, you are welcome and encouraged to do so.Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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David Brautigam

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Non-notable novelist. This is a very local source full of quotes, so I'm sure it is not enough to pass WP:GNG. Also, fails WP:NAUTHOR. Gheus (talk) 01:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Christian Garrett

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There is only one example of WP:SIGCOV of this tech businessperson, this profile in the San Francisco Standard. The rest of the coverage is WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS (e.g. [15], [16], [17]), affiliated sources (e.g. [18]) or WP:PRIMARYSOURCES ([19], [20]). He does not inherit notability from his mother's step-brother or grandfather. May well be notable someday but the sources don't support WP:GNG or WP:NBIO now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:07, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This seems like an unnecessary request, and feels like a personal attack. There are multiple articles on, or mentioning this famous venture capitalist investor and former basketball player. I found this page informative as I was listening to a podcast he was on and I came here to learn more about him. 217.110.185.242 (talk) 23:23, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. There are multiple WP:SIGCOV of this tech businessperson that I just added, from his past as a basketball player, as well as currently as a tech investor. See recently added citations such as this, this, this, this, and this. Happy to add more. ImagoDei137 (talk) 23:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Taiwan Plus is a Q&A interview and thus a primary source. KUSports.com reported on him when he was a KU student and thus it's not an independent source. The YouTube links are also Q&A interviews, as is the Wichita Eagle piece. None of these sources is GNG-qualifying SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:05, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
His mother also wrote about her son in her book. There’s also another article I researched about him that I will add. This seems like a waste of time and I agree with the other comment, something personal which is not in the spirit of Wikipedia.https://www.cynthiagarrett.org/prodigaldaughter ImagoDei137 (talk) 09:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A mother cannot possibly be an independent source on her son, and independent sourcing is required for determining notability. I would ask that participants here refrain from casting WP:ASPERSIONS about personal attacks and actions not in the spirit of Wikipedia and stay focused on the subject's notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:58, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Boston Basketball Partners

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Non-notable holding company, notable only for its legal structure as the ownership entity of the Boston Celtics. Redirect to Boston Celtics as WP:ATD. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE business coverage. Longhornsg (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - can easily be merged into the Boston Celtics. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spurs Sports & Entertainment

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The holding company is not-notable and fails WP:NCORP. The article is primarily content about the San Antonio Spurs, not the holding company, then a WP:SYNTHed-together reporting of the holding company's portfolio. Longhornsg (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - sports teams holding companies often are notable. Doing a before search brings up many hits for the company. Mostly books related to sports management. But I agree, the article should be redone to be less focused on the Spurs. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some books have had multiple pages dedicated to SS&E, such as these, and they are national authors too rather than local San Antonio coverage.

https://books.google.com/books?id=C9SbUYGyCvcC&pg=PA335&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgMEAM

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transforming_San_Antonio/-ETpCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&pg=PA180&printsec=frontcover

https://books.google.com/books?id=gVlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PP3&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgNEAM

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZSziAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijo4DawcSNAxWgO0QIHftkCnw4ChDoAXoECAUQAw ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The sources present in the article already demonstrates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This just meets WP:GNG. I actually do think that content like this article, Green Bay Packers, Inc., and so on would be better contextualized in the team's article, but I don't see a basis in policy to delete them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: References used in this article demonstrate the notability of the subject. Passes WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep. This source on Forbes is independent and reliable and counts towards GNG. this source is secondary and onpy partially contributes to GNG. The remaining sources are passing mentions, blogs, or not independent. Overall sourcing needs improvement. Flibirigit (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 15:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Several articles are present that will establish notability.Goodboyjj (talk) 06:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - And I mean weak. Holding companies typically are not notable as its their holdings that normally generate the WP:ORGCRIT needed for notability and notability would not be inherent simply because its the parent. However, the fact it gets attention in numerous books would push this to notability for me. Note that the Forbes reference would fall under WP:FORBESCON so I would not consider it for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Per the available sources. The subject passes WP:GNG.MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Ledbetter

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Fails WP:NATHLETE. Ledbetter's professional career in European basketball was unremarkable and does not seem to have yielded coverage in German and Luxembourgish news. The currently listed sources are his entry in the Glenville State College Hall of Fame showering affiliated praise, a user comment from the DC Basketball Blog (not even the blog post itself), minor discussion of his single-game performance in The Glenville Mercury student newspaper, and a YouTube interview from the channel Alumni4life, a local varsity jackets retailer. While I found two other instances of Ledbetter's performance reported in the Glenville Mercury, neither instance bothered to mention his season-wide performance, much less broader commentary on him as an athlete/person. Being twice named to the First All-WVIAC Team is impressive, but for a NCAA Division II conference, that achievement seems below WP:NCOLLATH. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 15:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Found some more coverage at [[21]], [[22]], [[23]], and [[24]]. Let'srun (talk) 19:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the identification of additional sources! I think the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and Indiana Gazette coverage when Ledbetter was playing in their respective areas is below the WP:NCOLLATH criterion of gaining "national media attention as an individual". Similarly, the Bedford County Press and Everett Press article is only a local newspaper reporting Saint Francis University's pride at recruiting Ledbetter. The Evening Sun article on Ledbetter's threat to not play at Crossland High School if transferred from Largo High School as part of D.C.'s racial integration is pretty interesting, though that coverage is not significant on him, nor did he follow through on that threat. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 19:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent info! JoseyWales019 (talk) 22:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bryan Greenlee

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All I was able to find on this basketball player was this interview with the subject and this interview with his parents, which I don't believe warrant a standalone article. JTtheOG (talk) 07:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not seeing sufficient independent SIGCOV to pass WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There appears to be very little coverage of this individual beyond primary sources Garsh (talk) 17:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (with work) - May meet notability due to FAU Final Four run. 1. trivial mention. 2. Televion interview. 3. Good source, notable mention. 4. Half discusses career, in short WPTV article. 5. Trivial mention, part of team that went to final 4 and contributed as a player. 6. Trivial mention in indep.article. 7. Interview (uni page)

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Comment: Found some coverage at [[25]], [[26]], and [[27]]. Let'srun (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- 1: team-specific microblog (Owls247.com), author graduated from the same uni in 2023, also just 3 sentences of direct coverage
- 2: routine interview from unreliable source (WP:SPORTSKEEDA), also just 2 sentences of direct coverage
- 3: routine coverage from a reliable source
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Atlantic Coast Conference women's basketball Rookie of the Year

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Seemingly no non-routine coverage in secondary sources. Bulk nom and I have done some WP:BEFORE on all of these Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Pac-12 Conference Men's Basketball Most Improved Player of The Year. Meets WP:LISTN with coverage of the grouping: The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been More sources added here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagumba (talk • contribs) 08:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Pac-12 Conference Men's Basketball Sixth Man of the Year. Meets WP:LISTN with additional coverage of the grouping added here.—Bagumba (talk) 09:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all. For Big East Conference Women's Basketball Defensive Player of the Year, I was easily able to find reliable secondary sources referencing each of the first 20 recipients of this award from 1997 through 2016 and added the references to the table here. There was a plethora of choices from which I was able to select. You will note that many of the references are not simply published lists from press releases but stories that went beyond routine coverage. Also, coverage in newspapers outside the locality of the award winners was present. This is beyond the standard set by WP:NLIST, since each individual entry does not need to be notable. While I suspect the article in this bulk nomination lack in referencing to demonstrate their notability, it is the referencing that is lacking, not the notability. They deserve tags stating such, but they should not be deleted. Taxman1913 (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep all. As expected, for Southeastern Conference Women's Basketball Freshman of the Year, I was easily able to find reliable secondary sources referencing each of the first 26 recipients of this award from 1984 through 2009 and added the references to the table here. As was the case with the Big East defensive player of the year, there was a plethora of choices from which I was able to select. You will note that many of the references are not simply published lists from press releases but stories that went beyond routine coverage. Also, coverage in newspapers outside the locality of the award winners was present. This is beyond the standard set by WP:NLIST, since each individual entry does not need to be notable. While I suspect the articles in this bulk nomination lack referencing to demonstrate their notability, it is the referencing that is lacking, not the notability. They deserve tags stating such, but they should not be deleted. There is little doubt that this will be the case for all the articles, which list the winners of major awards in power conferences that receive significant media coverage. The same is true of the recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlantic Coast Conference women's basketball Defensive Player of the Year, which I discovered too late. There is no doubt in my mind that reliable secondary sources could be found for that as well, and the article should probably be resurrected. Taxman1913 (talk) 10:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jamshid Fani

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Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. The only reference is a database, which does not establish notability. A redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics may be a suitable WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 12:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect He was disqualified in his only Olympic bout and there's no supporting evidence that he meets any WP notability criteria. A redirect to an article where he's already mentioned seems reasonable. Papaursa (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect would be best. Skycloud86 (talk) 10:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel ter Braak

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this Dutch cricketer. Possible redirect targets are List of Netherlands first-class cricketers and List of Netherlands One Day International cricket records. JTtheOG (talk) 00:12, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Umar Baker

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this Dutch cricketer. I am unsure if there is a suitable redirect target given his (singular) national team appearance. JTtheOG (talk) 00:09, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kunal Singh Rathore

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This cricketer lacks coverage in reliable secondary sources, so he fails WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 04:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: He is referred to as Kunal Rathore without the middle name in other articles. Jay 💬 08:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Ligue Régional II

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Reason OGL259 (talk) 19:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC) Due to the regional leagues literally having the same websites for the I and II of their respective leagues, i think it is longer required for this page and can just be merged into the Regional I page, kinda like the Southern Football League page. Where the multiple league are on one page.[reply]

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Nick O'Callaghan

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Conference USA Men's Soccer Player of the Year, where he won the 2019 Defensive Player of the Year with Aimé Mabika. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Ebo Mends

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The subject has played in the Ghana Premier League and in a Spanish lower league according to their Soccerway profile. I've been unable to find anything beyond database entries and passing mentions in match reports, certainly nothing resembling WP:SIGCOV. The article fails WP:GNG. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Aviza

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The highest level the subject appears to have played was the third level of the American soccer pyramid. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 07:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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John Astudillo

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It appears the most notable thing about this subject was the length of his tenure, not overall success or a notable playing career. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 07:20, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per lack of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 12:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Arya

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Highest level subject appears to have played is for a semi-professional team and he may or may not have been professional. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 07:14, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Just a WP:COOKIE. Svartner (talk) 12:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: As the original creator, I'll sit this one out. However, upon creation, WP:FOOTYN was in effect. As such, subject qualified under criteria 1 as both seasons he played were in fully professional leagues. Looks to be 114 matches for "Matt Arya" on Newspapers.com, but I'm not going to go through them all. GauchoDude (talk) 18:23, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm now unsure of myself because the team's article seemed to indicate that they were in a semi-professional league while Arya was with them, but I realize now that the league was defunct. It appears Arya may have played in a second division league, the USISL Select League, and if that is correct then I am in favor of keeping the article. Raskuly (talk) 22:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of J.League licensed video games

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Same as List of K League licensed video games, trivial article about a football league being licensed in video games. GamerPro64 04:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Loic Chan

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I'm not totally sure what to do with this one. There is some WP:SIGCOV, but almost all of it is speculative ("this French-Cambodian player might be the next Cambodian national team star" kind of stuff) or focused on the fact that his father is famous in Cambodia. I can hardly find anything about his career—he no longer plays for the Mallorca Academy and has trained with the Cambodia U23s but, for what I can gather, never actually played. He might play professionally in Cambodia now, but it's a bit unclear. I think this is a WP:TOOSOON, and this article should be draftified. If the AfD decides it should stay as is, fine, but I think this player is wholly unproven and only episodically notable. Also, at the very, very least, the article should be moved to "Loïc Chan". Anwegmann (talk) 03:10, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandi Ćoralić

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Ćoralić played a total of 16 matches at professional level before spending his entire career in lower leagues. In terms of secondary sources, I found Sportklub, a passing mention in a routine announcement. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non-notable footballer, and apparently already retired at the age of 25. Snowflake91 (talk) 16:25, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom.--A09|(talk) 22:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clement Ikenna

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Disputed redirect without improvement. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG, simply blurbs and stats pages. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 17:53, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Trinder

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I couldn't find any significant coverage of Trinder. Dougal18 (talk) 13:33, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to 1994–95 Mansfield Town F.C. season where he is already mentioned, as sole claim to fame. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete I don't know if it's really probable to claim any notability, however it's possible you could build a better article, but I am not seeing it. I also feel because of the multiple clubs he has played for it's better to delete than redirect so as to allow the search function to show all possible results. Govvy (talk) 14:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per Govvy. RossEvans19 (talk) 15:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Obscure English footballer who only played for lower leagues, without evidence of notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Nishanian

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Subject lacks notability under WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of independent WP:SIGCOV. The only sources here are primary to clubs and leagues the subject played for and a search elsewhere came up empty in regards to in depth secondary sources. Let'srun (talk) 12:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Price (American soccer)

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Subject does not have the requisite WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. The current references are databases or are primary to teams the subject played for, and I couldn't find anything better in a WP:BEFORE. Let'srun (talk) 12:26, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jung Eui-do

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Trainwreck nomination 12 years ago ended in keep due to a guideline that no longer exists. He only played 900 minutes in Korea's second highest league and I believe he fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 07:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: For reference, here is that previous AfD: [[28]]. Let'srun (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Junichi Misawa

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Rightfully prodded by @Spiderone many years ago, is not close to notable and has no GNG-granting sources. Geschichte (talk) 07:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Three professional appearances before retiring in 2011. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 15:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Arteaga

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While a youth international, the highest level Arteaga appears to have played is for the reserve affiliate of LA Galaxy. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:36, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler Arnone

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Highest level subject appears to have played is for the reserve team of Real Salt Lake. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:36, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Big Ten Conference Men's Soccer Player of the Year#Midfielder of the Year (2013–present) – Where he is mentioned as the winner in 2013 season. Svartner (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per Svartner. User:RossEvans19 (talk) 02:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Armstrong

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Contrary to the lead, Armstrong doesn't appear to have been a professional. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:36, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of K League licensed video games

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Absolute trivial article about a football team being licensed in video games. And its mostly FIFA. GamerPro64 04:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No substantial non-FIFA releases and also doesn't meet WP:NLIST. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NLIST, btw GamerPro64 I don't know if you want to adjust your wording on your nomination from football team to football league. Regards, Govvy (talk) 09:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Looks like WP:TRIVIA, and a mirror article of List of J.League licensed video games. Svartner (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah that'll need an afd of its own. GamerPro64 21:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nnaemeka Anyanwu

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Another longstanding notability tagged article. It appears he played for the Nigerian national team once but I didn't find information about his performance so I assume it wasn't notable. Be aware there is another player with the same or similar name born in 2006. Infobox says he plays for the Yobe Desert Stars but I can't find any source for that either. Moritoriko (talk) 07:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pavel Hezoučký

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Hezoučký played 95 minutes of professional football in Slovakia before retiring shortly afterwards. Deník is an interview without independent analysis, while the other source is about his retirement. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:20, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Very short career. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:35, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I found no additional sourcing in PressReader (which catalogues several Czech / Slovak papers). The sourcing about his retirement basically says he has returned to a normal life and job out of the spotlight. There’s no reason to think subject will meet WP:GNG in the future. Zzz plant (talk) 21:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daichi Shibata

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2 league appearances before retiring in 2015. Previously deleted and then restored. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:53, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment You can check the previous AFD here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daichi Shibata (footballer). RossEvans19 (talk) 23:55, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, lightyears away from notability. Geschichte (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tunde Akinlosotu

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The highest level the subject has played as appears to be the third level of American soccer. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 19:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 23:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nico González (footballer, born 1988)

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Previously proposed for deletion by @Clariniie, saying the article is Poorly-sourced, that he spent most of his career in lower leagues and that the references provided do not tell him in significant detail. @Schützenpanzer rejected the PROD, saying it should go to AFD. RossEvans19 (talk) 14:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I think there are sufficient sources already to show notability, including e.g. Tenerife Deportivo piece. Giant Snowman 19:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems enough for WP:BASIC, also that was a bad prod back there, that would be rejected all day long, so this follow-up AfD is not exactly good faith either in my opinion. Govvy (talk) 06:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My bad, just following it up in order to be fair :) RossEvans19 (talk) 14:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moro Alhassan

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24 professional appearances at Serie B and Serie C level before disappearing from the sport. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 14:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:07, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:42, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Šebek

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Non-notable former talent who did not succeed in adult football. Only three caps in professional football. FromCzech (talk) 09:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Corresponding article on Czech Wikipedia also lacks significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Only three professional league appearances. RossEvans19 (talk) 15:37, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Masato Yoshihara

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Another (among several hundred) GNG and SPORTCRIT failure, having only played 8 matches in the J League system. German lower leagues and Cambodian league aren't notable, and the challenge-cambodia.com page is only a database profile. Geschichte (talk) 15:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete sources show no evidence of significant coverage. Searches show databases primarily Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia only provides press release as references. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Even on de.wiki there is nothing about the player. Svartner (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Tatsuro Kimura

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Another (among several hundred) GNG and SPORTCRIT failure, having only played 7 matches in the J League system. All links in the Japanese Wikipedia are either dead or flagged as bad sites. Geschichte (talk) 15:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Hasn't played enough. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Fails GNG. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pieter Lehrer

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Footballer from Antigua and Barbuda who only played at college level in the US. Fails in WP:GNG and WP:MILL. Svartner (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Non-notable athletic career, some primary coverage from the school for his coaching career, but anything in a non-primary source is thin.... [29] is the only non-primary source I found. Just not enough coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 19:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Harvard Crimson men's soccer#Historical head coaches. Giant Snowman 19:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong with this source (p2)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On re-review, there's probably enough there to keep. Giant Snowman 19:53, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: I still question the WP:MILL issue, It's very little for a footballer who only played at college level. Svartner (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Meets WP:SPORTBASIC through identified coverage. JTtheOG (talk) 23:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John McIlvogue

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Fails to meet Wikipedia notability criteria. There is some very limited media coverage of McIlvogue's 2-year involvement with Livingston F.C. as a shareholder, but nothing remotely substantive enough to justify a biography - we'd need a lot more about his life in general, and/or more coverage of what his activities as a shareholder entailed. Note that even our Livingston F.C. article only mentions McIlvogue once in passing. Owning shares in something notable doesn't make the shareholder notable. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV - no source addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. We do not even have a news report that mentions that John McIlvogue as involved in any named business other than the particular business concerned in that report, so linking the various mentions together as relating to one person is WP:OR. NebY (talk) 13:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete What exactly is he meant to be notable for? He bought a company, he started a company, he was part owner of a bakery and a football club. All that shows is that he's a normal businessman, that's no slight against him, it's just not the basis of an encyclopedic article. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 18:25, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and others. Miniapolis 22:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No significant coverage. At most a one sentence with a reference in the Livingston FC article. Coldupnorth (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I have found some additional sources, although they mostly cover the same material as what's already on the page. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing there that amounts to in-depth coverage of the man himself: 'businessman says stuff about thing he owns'. They all do that, if the local media gives them an opportunity. You can't build a biography from sound bites. And per policy, interviews don't count towards notability: what he says about himself (or his business) isn't independent. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 02:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yusuke Suzuki (footballer)

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Previously nominated by @Geschichte, but was undeleted per WP:RFUD, saying that as he was a J2 footballer, he was most likely notable. He was a J2 footballer, but he only played 5 league games for Roasso Kumamoto, the rest of his career was spent in lower leagues. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There is nothing "likely" about notability here. Undistinguished career, no valid sources. Geschichte (talk) 13:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:31, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Martín Urdiroz

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Much of the prose is about his family while the sources are all about his brothers and barely make mention of Martín, who played a handful of games in his lone top-flight season with his brother as his coach. Even contemporary sources all seem to be trivial mentions in game lineups, leaving us with database entries. I understand creating this article from a completionist perspective, but, as per WP:SPORTBASIC, All sports biographies... must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject. JTtheOG (talk) 07:25, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nearly 24 hours and not yet a single reply... Is this normal? I guess everyone is currently distracted/awed with Wikipedia's milestone of 7 million articles! Luis7M (talk) 02:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – JTtheOG rationale proceeds, the sources are about his brothers (Emilio and Filo), Martin being mentioned only as another brother who played for Osasuña in Civil War period. I suggest a redirect to Emilio Urdiroz as a WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 05:36, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Aziz Keita

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I can't find any WP:SIGCOV on this player in both English or French. The fact that it's a terrible article doesn't help. Anwegmann (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep He was the starting goalkeeper for Guinea during their fourth place AFCON finish in 2016. A BEFORE search is terrible because it just gives you the various statistics pages. Fortunately a Guinea-specific newspaper is much more helpful: [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] I am sure there is more out there if you don't focus on simple web search results. SportingFlyer T·C 05:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per sources presented by SportingFlyer. Svartner (talk) 06:23, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails GNG. Sources provided are just match reports and interviews that do not provide sigcov of him. Dougal18 (talk) 08:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. First of all, he is more often known as Abdoul Aziz Keita, sometimes also just Aziz Keita. Second, he has a good deal of coverage both for major events and generally, over time. The 2016 exploits with the national team are also covered in pieces such as Heroic Keita Sends Guinea Into Last Four (...) Captain Abdoul Aziz Keita was the hero for Guinea. The same thing happened on other occasions, such as the 2014 Guinean Super Cup. [38] Coverage of a significant event with the subject taking centre stage is the opposite of trivial/passing coverage. It is true, however, that many news articles are short or contain interview portions. To varying degrees that's the case for many articles chronicling his career such as [39], [40], [41], [42], [43], [44], [45], [46]. Geschichte (talk) 14:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's just sports coverage in Guinea. If we don't understand what significant coverage looks like around the world and assume everything has to be an American feature length story, that creates bias. SportingFlyer T·C 16:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Can anyone also analyze whether or not the references provided by Geschichte meet GNG? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no question. SportingFlyer T·C 16:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paywalled match report, contract signing, he isn't moving clubs, match report, moar transfer news, interview, interview, contract dispute and another interview. None of those are SIGCOV or help him pass GNG. SIGCOV isn't weakened/strengthened based on your country. Dougal18 (talk) 09:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources/arguments above which show notability. Giant Snowman 15:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've looked at a couple of the sources, I could look better but from what I see, I am not sure if a true WP:BEFORE was done. I question the method of the nominator. Govvy (talk) 21:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Govvy: I will say the BEFORE search wasn't easy. I persisted because the database sites showed he started in AFCON, so I knew there had to be coverage somewhere. Search engines are getting worse and I'm worried we'll start losing articles because the search engines are the starting point for BEFORE searches. It's also sort of a problem now the SNGs are gone - it's absolutely common sense he'd have at least local coverage, which he does. SportingFlyer T·C 23:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer: Not to mention all the "online news" articles from the past that are just gone forever, with no physical backup since newspapers are dead. "Nearly 40% of web pages from 10 years ago are no longer accessible (2024)". ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:05, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Trudgian

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The current sources are primary and all I could find elsewhere were some mentions at [[47]] and [[48]] Let'srun (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails SPORTCRIT, unable to find anything other than routine coverage. J Mo 101 (talk) 08:15, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to 2000–01 Plymouth Argyle F.C. season as his sole claim to fame (one appearance) and where he is already mentioned. Giant Snowman 15:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm ok with redirecting. Svartner (talk) 17:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for failing WP:GNG and do not redirect. The search feature would pick up the name anyway. Need to avoid redirects when a player has played for multiple clubs. Govvy (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that a redirect here is not advisable. Let'srun (talk) 12:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spurs Sports & Entertainment

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The holding company is not-notable and fails WP:NCORP. The article is primarily content about the San Antonio Spurs, not the holding company, then a WP:SYNTHed-together reporting of the holding company's portfolio. Longhornsg (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - sports teams holding companies often are notable. Doing a before search brings up many hits for the company. Mostly books related to sports management. But I agree, the article should be redone to be less focused on the Spurs. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some books have had multiple pages dedicated to SS&E, such as these, and they are national authors too rather than local San Antonio coverage.

https://books.google.com/books?id=C9SbUYGyCvcC&pg=PA335&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgMEAM

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transforming_San_Antonio/-ETpCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&pg=PA180&printsec=frontcover

https://books.google.com/books?id=gVlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PP3&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgNEAM

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZSziAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijo4DawcSNAxWgO0QIHftkCnw4ChDoAXoECAUQAw ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The sources present in the article already demonstrates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This just meets WP:GNG. I actually do think that content like this article, Green Bay Packers, Inc., and so on would be better contextualized in the team's article, but I don't see a basis in policy to delete them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: References used in this article demonstrate the notability of the subject. Passes WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep. This source on Forbes is independent and reliable and counts towards GNG. this source is secondary and onpy partially contributes to GNG. The remaining sources are passing mentions, blogs, or not independent. Overall sourcing needs improvement. Flibirigit (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 15:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Several articles are present that will establish notability.Goodboyjj (talk) 06:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - And I mean weak. Holding companies typically are not notable as its their holdings that normally generate the WP:ORGCRIT needed for notability and notability would not be inherent simply because its the parent. However, the fact it gets attention in numerous books would push this to notability for me. Note that the Forbes reference would fall under WP:FORBESCON so I would not consider it for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Per the available sources. The subject passes WP:GNG.MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kei Taniguchi

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A 17-game carer is some, but not much. It did not make him a well-known Japanese footballer, and there are no sources to sustain a BLP. Geschichte (talk) 07:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – The Japanese article does not provide any significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of notability. MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:55, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emran Barakzai

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Player without any notable spells who only played for Jong Ajax and amateur teams in the Netherlands. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 05:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. He played 6 minutes plus extra time of professional league football with Ajax U-23, where he was a bencher. Since, he has been playing amateur soccer, and not always on first squads. That is very healthy and much more than I ever did in soccer! Still, the coverage is either not independent or not SIGCOV. gidonb (talk) 23:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yusuf Barak

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Afghan player who only acted for regional teams in Germany. No WP:SIGCOV found. Svartner (talk) 05:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hervé Elame

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I can't find anything other than quick, passing references in both English and French. There appears to be nothing close to WP:SIGCOV on this player. Anwegmann (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There are way too many players that do not fit this category and they exist on Wikipedia. I am referring to players playing third or fourth level of leagues. Боки 💬 📝 19:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFF applies to this argument. WP:SIGCOV is required for an article to pass WP:GNG, regardless of whether or not there are articles that would also fail that same test. Those articles, indeed, should be deleted as well. Anwegmann (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – There is only two sources, both from databases. Fails in WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Miguel Soares (East Timorese footballer)

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Previous WP:PRODed in 2010. Played few matches for Timor-Leste, but fails in lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 23:56, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I can't find any significant coverage at all Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 All Japan High School Soccer Tournament prefectural qualifiers

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This page is in violation of WP:NOTDATABASE; from the sources and what I could search, I did not find WP:SIGCOV of these prefectural qualifications beyond some stats reporting. Very possible I missed items given the language barrier so open to additional sources, but as it stands this article fails both the sourcing test of WP:GNG and the WP:NOT test of GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:37, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2024 All Japan High School Soccer Tournament – As WP:ATD. I know the importance of All-Japan, but the qualifications are just matches between amateur young players. Svartner (talk) 00:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It should be deleted. ~~ NipponHSS1 (talk) 00:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect article does not seem to have enough coverage to justify this split for these matches. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Jennings

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Non-notable footballer who appears to fail WP:SPORTCRIT. Unable to find any significant coverage, and the sources in the article are WP:ROUTINE match reports and transfer announcements. J Mo 101 (talk) 14:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksandar Mirkov

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According to Soccerway, Mirkov spent his career at lower levels of Serbian football league before playing in Bosnia and Herzegovina for two years. He returned to his homeland to play regional football for OFK Kikinda in 2023, which is far from meeting WP:GNG. The only secondary source I found is a transfer announcement on Kikindski. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There are way too many players that do not fit this category and they exist on Wikipedia. I am referring to players playing third or fourth level of leagues. Боки 💬 📝 19:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And if they fail GNG then they should be brought to AfD and deleted too. The existence of other non-notable footballers on Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a reason to keep this one. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete—Clear failure of WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 20:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luc Granitur

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 09:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—At the very, very least this is a WP:TOOSOON, but there is just nothing here to pass WP:GNG as it stands. Anwegmann (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jovan Trnić

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Serbian men's footballer who spent his entire career at the lower levels. Corresponding article on the Serbian Wikipedia is slightly longer, but even secondary sources are just passing mentions while the last is an interview without independent analysis, if I could read them correctly. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – There is more than 44 sources in sr.wiki article, it's should be checked carefully. Svartner (talk) 06:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep He didn't play his entire career in the lower leagues, in fact he played a good number of games in the second tier. (However Serbian First League is not a fully pro league like it says it is, in fact that league is semi-pro. Which also counts against some notability in my opinion.) I had a look at both articles and a lot of the citations between the two wiki's. I am somewhat confused about the, on loan for five seasons? I thought I read he was on loan for only two and then signed. There are a number of oddities with his career and the sources. Saying all this, with the amount of citations, they are pretty routine and some are really not acceptable in my opinion. However there is a build of them, and that builds up the story, along with it's oddities. I could have easily just said delete however my keep is very weak. Govvy (talk) 13:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (stronger) - the many, many sources on the Serbian page, even though many are short, are exactly what we would expect of a player who is notable in Serbia, as sports news in the area doesn't really do American-style feature stories on players. SportingFlyer T·C 16:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.
1,3,6,9,10,11,14,15,20,22,24,30,32,33,34,37,41,43,45: non-independent N.
2: interview, almost zero secondary coverage N.
4: passing mention N.
521: trivial coverage in routine transactional news N.
7: passing mention in quote N.
8121316: not mentioned N.
171823242627283643: name drop N.
19: trivial mention N.
25313542: passing mention in primary match report N.
29: passing, non-encyclopedic mentions N.
38: passing mention N.
39: teammate's video on YouTube N.
40: primary highlight reel on YouTube, unknown provenance N.
Literally nothing even approaching non-trivial coverage, let alone GNG. The Serbian page is cobbled together from passing mentions and non-independent accounts from his own clubs. I would estimate there are no more than 15 non-quote/interview-based, prose sentences on him across all 25 sources that aren't from the federation/club, and that's even including the ineligible primary match recaps like
Except for before the break, when goalkeeper Trnić and Benjamin collided while chasing the ball, there was no excitement before the goals, which confirmed what the table shows – the inefficiency of both teams.
As soon as the second half started, the guests were left with a player less, the referee showed a red card to goalkeeper Trnić.
Then Admir Kecap entered the scene, who on three occasions had more than a reasonable chance, but Trnić managed to prevent the advantage of the home team.
and routine transactional reports like
Trnić, who is 18 years old, spent the previous season in Partizan's branch Teleoptik.
there is also the youngster Jovan Trnić who is gaining experience in Teleoptik.
the contracts are for three years, and were signed by goalkeepers Jovan Trnić (1996) and Đorđe Vukanić (2000), as well as striker Nikola Nović (2000).
JoelleJay (talk) 17:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is absolutely fucked analysis from the most extreme sports deletionist on the website. You are trying to read Western standards into Serbian journalism. Trnić is clearly a notable Serbian football player. SportingFlyer T·C 18:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JoelleJay: "Let alone GNG" ? What do you mean? All articles must meet that guideline.

@SportingFlyer: Please follow WP:CIVIL and refrain from using swear words. You could said you agree with source analysis that none of the references provided contain significant coverage, but don't start WP:JUSTNOTABLE argument.

⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:20, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not making a WP:JUSTNOTABLE argument. Sources like this and this are normal coverage in Serbia - there's not a lot of feature stories about players, we have coverage detailing his entire career, he made almost 100 appearances and would be expected to be found in an encyclopedia of notable Serbian football players. The GNG requirement came about for sportspeople who had nothing written about them except for database entries. That is not the case at all for Trnić, who received media coverage pretty much every single time his team played, and there is absolutely no shortage of mentions or coverage of him. The only thing we are missing is what I call an "American-style feature article" like the ones small towns write about their otherwise entirely non-notable minor league baseball players, which is what Wikipedia seems to require now instead of common sense. SportingFlyer T·C 15:47, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So we're supposed to exempt second-tier Serbian footballers from our global consensus requiring GNG and citation to a source of significant coverage because you agree Serbian newspapers don't give them significant coverage...? You linked to two routine transactional reports that are ubiquitous and typical for footballers anywhere in the world, that doesn't make that the normal extent of coverage for notable Serbian footballers, but if it is, that would just mean these subjects are not actually notable to wiki standards. We deprecated NFOOTY precisely because too often appearances in a given league did not correspond to GNG (and it sounds like his 37 second-tier apps wouldn't have even counted toward NFOOTY as it's not actually fully-professional).
Mentions in primary match reports do not count toward GNG or even BASIC, nor does the routine coverage of transactions that often comes directly from press releases. Building an article around those sources would violate our policies on PRIMARY and NPOV. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should interpret that sentence as "there isn't even one single secondary independent source providing more than passing mentions, let alone the multiple such sources required for GNG".
I disagree with policing SF's swearing. JoelleJay (talk) 18:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hrach Kaprielian

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Non-notable businessman. Lacking any WP:RS. Cabrils (talk) 01:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep - @Wcquidditch please consider withdrawing this nomination. I have added over a dozen new citations. He is a well known Armenian businessman and philanthropist. Mainly take a look at these: ankakh.com and westernarmeniatv.com (English documentary of the same is here). There are many more citations if you search his name in Armenian. I stopped looking as I have found enough. I have also greatly expanded the article and his bio.Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Any withdrawal of this nomination will not be coming from me. I only performed deletion sorting here and am not the nominator — Cabrils (talk · contribs) is. I have no opinion on the nominated article or the new sources. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. @Cabrils seems to be the nominator. I will also message him. Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all for the pings. Mysecretgarden would you mind please providing WP:THREE-- it will be the fastest way to resolve this, thanks. Cabrils (talk) 02:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cabrils The 2 I mentioned above are the best ones. The rest are not as in-depth and are about different news about him, but with everything combined there is enough to meet WP:BASIC. Mainly take a look at these: ankakh.com and westernarmeniatv.com (English documentary of the same is here) Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep based on refs in the article and my own search using Google’s Armenia news search page. —A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Carry

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Even the primary sources do not support some of the claims in the article. C 679 04:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Ian Carry meets WP:COACH through notable roles including head coach at NCAA Division I level, interim coach of a national team, goalkeeping coach of a national team, and current head coach of the U.S. Men's Beach Soccer National Team.[49][50] He has held multiple verified coaching and technical[51]positions at national and[52]collegiate levels.[53] The article is not AI-generated and is improvable. Wq4m820 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Notable as per reasons given by Wq4m820. I have no opinion on the AI issue. Sarah777 (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The sources provided by the article's creator are either primary ones or routine announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 OFC U-16 Women's Championship qualification

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Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT, Just a results listings of an under 16 competition. No appropriate redirect target.

I am also nominating the following related page:

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Keep see coverage that goes beyond WP:ROUTINE, beyond simple listing of scores and other results. U-16: Friends of Football: [54], [55], [56]. Football in Oceania: [57]. Samoa News: [58]. U-19: Friends of Football: [59]. Talanoao 'O Tonga: [60]. Just to note, this is an example of coverage from a competition that I would consider routine: [61]. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The football related sources cannot be considered independent third party sources. This source and this which you have identified are about the U19 team and not this event? LibStar (talk) 05:07, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Misread the nomination and thought the other nominated page was U-19. Why should the others not be considered independent third-party sources? They are reliable with journalistic backing.

Additionally, U-16 sources: [62], [63] Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not journalist backing or considered reliable press. They appear to be blog sites and unreliable as per WP:SPS. LibStar (talk) 05:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as not notable, but in time the qualification process can be mentioned on the parent articles if/when they are created. Giant Snowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep obviously, as this is a tournament's legitimate qualification method, and these matches' results count towards it. Should we delete the page about the qualification for the 2026 FIFA World Cup then? Gianluca91 (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a reason for keeping. A FIFA World Cup generates a massive amount of coverage, this event does not. How does this article meet WP:SPORTSEVENT? LibStar (talk) 23:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Bresser

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Unable to find significant independent coverage, although his club (PSV) has some press releases; other than that, it's just database entries. — Moriwen (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft Not sure why it wasn't sent to draft space in the first place. Could easily be notable in the future. Govvy (talk) 20:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's more than 90 days old and therefore ineligible, alas.— Moriwen (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 16:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 18:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep since presently notable. There is a huge distance between the intro and the facts on the ground. SIGCOV sources: ESPN article by Daan Sutorius and AD article by Rik Elfrink. These are multiple sources that support notability. Other items that fall short of standalone SIGCOV yet can cumulatively contribute to such (i.e. do not analyze individually!): [64][65][66][67][68][69]. Among these are additional articles by the sports journalist Rik Elfrink. gidonb (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Moriwen, Govvy, Svartner, and GiantSnowman: Courtesy ping, please review the sources presented above. ✗plicit 00:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ESPN article looks good, the other sources are either superficial or paywalled. I still think draftify is the best alternative for now. Svartner (talk) 05:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The AD source is great. I did look behind the paywall. gidonb (talk) 16:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please can you expand the article using these sources? Giant Snowman 18:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. ESPN.nl is hardly an independent source, given their extensive contract and mixed finances with Eredivisie Media & Marketing and direct collaboration with the Eredivisie clubs. Eredivisie Media & Marketing CV was established by the Eredivisie clubs in 2008 to exploit their collective media and sponsorship rights. The company's first major achievement was the launch of the television channel Eredivisie Live, the first owned television channel by clubs in Europe. In 2012, FOX International Channels acquired a majority stake in EMM, and Eredivisie Live was renamed FOX Sports a year later. In 2019, The Walt Disney Company acquired the majority share. Since January 1, 2021, the television channel has been known as ESPN. With just the AD source I think it's reasonable to draftify until further coverage becomes available. JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marcelo Rosa (footballer, born 1991)

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Player with few professional appearances, most for Minas Gerais state clubs in lower levels. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Villa Nova Atlético Clube (where he plays midfielder). Does not seem notable on his own. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:27, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He barely played for the club, there is no point in redirecting. Svartner (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexei Cherepanov Award

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In addition to being uncited, doing a brief search online produces no sources indicating WP:GNG, or secondary sources specifically covering the award outside of passing mentions. My search using the Russian name for the award "Премия Алексея Черепанова" only produced sources talking about players winning the award 1 or players arguing they should have won the award 2, both of which focus more on the players in question and neither about award itself. For these reasons, I unfortunately believe the article does not pass notability guidelines. Johnson524 03:42, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/redirect to Kontinental Hockey League. Flibirigit (talk) 13:30, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added references for as many wins as I could, and tried to attribute them to a variety of primary and secondary sources (noting: the entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been). I originally was following the general format for Ice Hockey awards as published at Calder Memorial Trophy, CHL Rookie of the Year, Dudley "Red" Garrett Memorial Award, Emms Family Award, Jarmo Wasama Memorial Trophy, Jim Piggott Memorial Trophy, SHL Rookie of the Year, Sidney Crosby Trophy, etc., which did not include individual references for each win. I am also unsure of what sort of documentation beyond that you would like. Especially when factoring in a Western bias, you are not going to find numerous articles talking about the award itself – but that's the same with all of the other rookie awards listed above; you instead find articles talking about the players who won the award. The KHL is a top global ice hockey league and Rookie of the Year is one of the top, annual awards. I am just struggling to see how it differs from other leagues' awards, or even other awards from the KHL such as the Faith Towards Hockey Award. And I am not trying to invoke WP:PRECEDENT as we try to not let that dictate future decisions, but would it not fall under a standing WP:CON consensus?:–uncleben85 (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You added no sources whatsoever. Flibirigit (talk) 13:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh... did it not save??? Well... K, that sucks. Will try again. UPDATE: Found the problem; fixed!–uncleben85 (talk) 14:40, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The added sources did not change my opinion. Passing mentions of players winning an award do not contribute to GNG for the award. Neither do primary sources from the league, nor listings sports databases. It is best to merge this into the league. Flibirigit (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should we then not merge every other award article into their respective league? –uncleben85 (talk) 17:16, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That question is out of the scope of this AFD. Asking rhetorical questions is akin to arguing WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I suggest adding citations for all recipients of the award and await the results of this AFD. Flibirigit (talk) 18:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't rhetorical. It was a genuine ponderance! But agreed, it is outside of the scope of this AfD. My overall point is I made this article to the standards I knew from seeing similar articles. I have since tried to approve on that.–uncleben85 (talk) 19:56, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sports awards articles in general are very poorly written. Flibirigit (talk) 20:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Uncleben85: I was only looking to see if this article in particular met WP:GNG notability standards as part of the page review process. I suppose I could conduct a deep search into all the articles linked above as well, but I'm more of an inclusionst by nature, and try not to go on large deleting sprees if I can help it. That being said, if you or any other editors would like to argue for their inclusion or deletion from the encyclopedia I'll participate in the discussion. Johnson524 18:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It might be necessary to evaulate all awards for this league, see Category:Kontinental Hockey League trophies and awards. Several were published at the same time as this one. Flibirigit (talk) 20:49, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, this one, that I just made, is the only one that was made recently. The others were created between 2008 and 2014. –uncleben85 (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spurs Sports & Entertainment

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The holding company is not-notable and fails WP:NCORP. The article is primarily content about the San Antonio Spurs, not the holding company, then a WP:SYNTHed-together reporting of the holding company's portfolio. Longhornsg (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - sports teams holding companies often are notable. Doing a before search brings up many hits for the company. Mostly books related to sports management. But I agree, the article should be redone to be less focused on the Spurs. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some books have had multiple pages dedicated to SS&E, such as these, and they are national authors too rather than local San Antonio coverage.

https://books.google.com/books?id=C9SbUYGyCvcC&pg=PA335&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgMEAM

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transforming_San_Antonio/-ETpCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&pg=PA180&printsec=frontcover

https://books.google.com/books?id=gVlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PP3&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgNEAM

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZSziAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijo4DawcSNAxWgO0QIHftkCnw4ChDoAXoECAUQAw ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The sources present in the article already demonstrates WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This just meets WP:GNG. I actually do think that content like this article, Green Bay Packers, Inc., and so on would be better contextualized in the team's article, but I don't see a basis in policy to delete them, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: References used in this article demonstrate the notability of the subject. Passes WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep. This source on Forbes is independent and reliable and counts towards GNG. this source is secondary and onpy partially contributes to GNG. The remaining sources are passing mentions, blogs, or not independent. Overall sourcing needs improvement. Flibirigit (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 15:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Several articles are present that will establish notability.Goodboyjj (talk) 06:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - And I mean weak. Holding companies typically are not notable as its their holdings that normally generate the WP:ORGCRIT needed for notability and notability would not be inherent simply because its the parent. However, the fact it gets attention in numerous books would push this to notability for me. Note that the Forbes reference would fall under WP:FORBESCON so I would not consider it for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- Per the available sources. The subject passes WP:GNG.MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Corbin McPherson

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This is a non-notable minor ice hockey player who fails WP:NHOCKEY HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep... While obviously not a great deal going on with this particular article, the basis of failed WP:NHOCKEY has got my attention and raises questions! Initial notability was gained under the stipulation of at least 200 regular season games at the 'second tier' levels. This 200 games played has been the common practice and basis for a considerable number of ice hockey articles. The removal of games played in NHOCKEY was edited by a single user without discussion on April 2022 and has gone unnoticed until this point to my knowledge..unless i've missed the changing of goalposts somewhere else..Triggerbit (talk) 05:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Triggerbit, I believe there was a discussion and I will try and find it. Even so the wording said "Significant coverage is likely to exist." There is no significant coverage of this player that I found when doing a WP:BEFORE search. He still doesn't pass GNG. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:59, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He arguably meets GNG, see e.g. 1 2 3. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Florida Atlantic Owls Hockey Club

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The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and half of the links are not properly functioning. The only working, possibly independent source is WFLX, and it's not clear that it is sufficiently independent or deep coverage in any case. C 679 03:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not commenting on the massive mess this user is making of biographies, but the WFLX and WPTV references should be the same thing (WPTV partially operates WFLX under agreement). The correct WPTV link is [70] and would be preferred. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possible keep: The sources from WFLX and WPTV references are duplicates, but still count as one independent reliable source for GNG. The six sources from the university do not contribute, and the hockeywriters source is only a passing mention. Flibirigit (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (with work) - Article can be improved and rewritten. WPTV/WFLX source is good. Yahoo Sports source adds to notability but comes from those above. * trvial mention here in larger reading on Florida collegiate hockey. * UPress, independent from the hockey club itself and adds independent coverage. This helps support notability under WP:NORG. Wq4m820 (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC) contribs)[reply]
Redirect to Florida Atlantic Owls#Non-varsity_sports, or merge with that section on the FAU Athletics article. The FAU hockey club is not notable and does not warrant its own article outside of the section on the FAU athletics page. Generally, college hockey clubs are not notable enough to get their own page, which is why there is usually a non-varsity section on the school's athletics article. Tomhol811 (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Florida Atlantic Owls: as an AtD. No evidence of sufficient independent WP:SIGCOV for a standalone page here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aron Reisz

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible keep. I see 13 sources listed in this article, seven on which appear to be reliable web sites or news sources in Hungarian and German. I'm curious exactly where the nominator searched in a WP:BEFORE. Were non-English language articles searched? Flibirigit (talk) 11:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not finding much significant coverage of the player in reliable sources. Significant coverage is only in a hockey blog. There is certainly difficulty in searching Hungarian sources, but thus far my search has been unsuccessful.

Here is a quick assessment of the sources in the article (note: I am relying on google translate for these). Not sure if this will change your mind @Flibirigit:

1,4,8,10,11,12 are from a hockey blog and are not reliable

2: About national team, not player. Reisz only mentioned in roster list.

3: Only appears in roster list

5: Routine game coverage mentioning Reisz goal

6: Routine game coverage that mentions Reisz

7: Page not found

9: Behind paywall; most likely source for establishing notability

13: Only appears in roster list

Given there is only one potentially reliable, in-depth source this article should be deleted as it doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 02:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - found three Hungarian sources [71], [72], and [73]. The last one is tabloidy but the first two seem to be on a legitimate news site. Zzz plant (talk) 12:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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James Benjamin Stewart

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Non notable kickboxer. This article initially appears notable but when you look deeper it doesn't meet WP:NKICK, WP:SPORTBASIC, WP:GNG (all sources are non-independent, no significant coverage). It also has a lot of promotional aspects such as: the name of his private non-notable company, the name of his children: "They have three children together: Sidney, Saryna, and Sterling", the entire sections "Early life", "Corporate career", "Personal life", passage like "conditioned and rehabilitated himself through hot yoga"? and majority of the "championships" entries are completely unsourced which indicates close connection with the subject, potential COI? The article looks likes a vanity page to promote the subject's business interests and self-published non-notable books. This article is as vanity and promotional as it gets.

In addition, the subject's main claim to fame, his victories in WKA, WKU or WAKO, dont't pass WP:NKICK guidelines. The subject has never fought outside of these amateur competitions in "Point Fighting" or "light contact Kick Boxing", and has never fought professional kickboxing (unlike Dragan Jovanović (kickboxer) for example who went on to fight Pro). According to WP:NKICK: Kickboxers who have an amateur background exclusively are not notable under this guideline unless they have been the subject examined in detail (more than a single paragraph) in several reliable third-party sources (at least four), excluding local publications. The subject has only been covered in local publications such as the subject's home city of Ottawa: inside ottawa valley.com. Which is filled with a total of 20+ spacing mistakes. Lekkha Moun (talk) 19:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment NKICK seems a tad strict. It wants "at least four" pieces of SIGCOV, excluding local? That's a higher bar than GNG.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think the Kickboxing guidelines for amateur kickboxing athletes are extremely appropriate, because it should require a lot in order to be notable as an amateur. There are so many non-notable martial arts competitions out there where you can become a "world champion" with only a few participants per category, that's why quality SIGCOV has been requested. As for pro fighters, the guidelines are very flexible: "ranked in the world top-10". I would actually change it to Top 5. So if GNG is easier to pass, the subject should have an easier time passing GNG, but unfortunately doesn't. Lekkha Moun (talk) 08:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Senkoukai

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As nicely as possible, I think this article is full of it. The sources are indeed real pages but when trying to check any of the claims in them they all lead in a circular manner back to pages controlled by the senkoukai. All of the supposed masters that he trained under are not pulling up any search results, even when I search for their names in Japanese. The same happens when I search for the organizations that recognized this particular style like International Bujutsu Karate Association. I will be honest that I can't read any of the sources that are not in English but what I have (not) seen in English and Japanese makes me doubt. Moritoriko (talk) 07:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- I respectfully request that this page not be deleted.
The article on Senkoukai Karate is based on verifiable and reliable sources, many of which are from established news outlets. The subject has received significant coverage in independent publications, which supports its notability as per Wikipedia guidelines.

Here are some of the sources that confirm the authenticity and notability of Senkoukai Karate:

- Telangana Today: “Hyderabad-based martial artist develops India's first independent karate style, Senkoukai Karate gains global recognition.”

- Asian Community News: “Hanshi Shaswat Kumar becomes first Indian to earn 10th Dan black belt from Japan.”

- Sakshi Epaper (multiple editions): Coverage of kata demonstrations, global recognition, and Indian leadership in martial arts.

- Namasthe Telangana (NT News): Reported on global recognition of Senkoukai Karate.

- IBKA Japan: Recognition of Senkoukai Karate is documented.

These articles are archived and available for verification.

The content has been written with neutrality and in accordance with Wikipedia’s content policies. I am open to improving the article further if required, but kindly consider retaining the page, as the subject is notable and reliably documented.

MartialArtsStyles (talk) 11:34, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your observations and concerns. I genuinely appreciate your interest in verifying the information. I would like to respectfully clarify a few important points and request that the article not be deleted, as it is based on verifiable facts and can be improved further as per Wikipedia’s standards.

1. Regarding the International Bujutsu Karate Association (IBKA):

While their official website is currently not active, the organization is legitimate and recognized in Japan. Here are their official contact details for verification:

Address: 064-0821 Kita 1-jo Nishi 22-3-18, Chuo-ku, Sapporo, MDC Omotesando Building, 2nd Floor

Tel: 011-215-9880

Handy: 090-9430-7668

Fax: 011-522-6960

Additionally, in this YouTube video, their official banner is clearly visible in the background:

🔗 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ti7buZW2EuY

Anyone is welcome to reach out to them directly to confirm their recognition of Senkoukai Karate.

2. Regarding the Japanese masters and recognition:

One of the senior Japanese masters is Hanshi Masaki Watanabe, Chairman of the World Executive Committee for Senkoukai Karate. While not all senior Japanese instructors have personal websites, you can verify Masaki Watanabe’s presence through these official platforms:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masaki.watanabe.karate

YouTube Shorts: Video 1, Video 2

He is also present on Facebook and other social platforms.

3. Regional language media coverage:

Multiple Indian news outlets such as Sakshi, Namasthe Telangana, Telangana Today, and Asian Community News have independently reported on Senkoukai Karate’s formation, recognition, and growth. If needed, I can help provide English translations or summaries of these non-English sources.

In conclusion, I respectfully request that this page not be deleted. The subject is notable, covered in reliable sources, and supported by international recognition. I remain fully committed to improving the article’s neutrality, citations, and structure as per Wikipedia guidelines.

Thank you again for your thoughtful consideration. MartialArtsStyles (talk) 00:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. I never doubted that the organization exists and it is indeed recognized as a corporation, I can't find anything about it being recognized as anything other than a local practice place in Sapporo.

2. Again, I don't doubt that he is a real person, just his qualifications to declare something notable.

3. To determine notability for Wikipedia it is important to have non-interview articles, and because you are a CoI editor unfortunately the burden of proof is even higher.

In America it is relatively easy to found a school of some branch of martial arts and then contact any one of several organizations to "certify" it as a real thing but that doesn't make it notable. Moritoriko (talk) 07:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with user Moritoriko, I have also been trying for the past month to review their references, claims and citations since the Senkoukai instructor started vandalising a bunch of different martial arts pages such as 100-man kumite, Comparison of karate styles, and Full contact karate (You can see this in the revision history). Everything returns back to Senkoukai managed pages when checking, also the newspaper articles they keep adding could very easily just be paid promotional article coverage which they all seem to be written by Shashwat Kumar or someone linked to him.

I agree that this article should be deleted as soon as possible, also if you go on the Facebook page for World Senkoukai Karate Organisation he is even using the Wikipedia article for Senkoukai for advertising.

Below pulled from his Facebook.

"If you want to know more about Senkoukai Karate, please visit the official Wikipedia page of Senkoukai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkoukai" NottinghamNinja (talk) 01:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Following my above comment I would like to vote Delete for the Senkoukai article. NottinghamNinja (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to respectfully respond to the concerns raised above.

With due regard to the contributors, I believe we must maintain the principle that Wikipedia articles are judged based on their content and references, not on assumptions about the intentions or identities of the editors.

If tomorrow, someone creates a page about any lesser-known but verifiable organization and provides references — and those references meet the basic notability and verifiability criteria — should the article be deleted just because the editor may be linked to the organization? That would be a slippery slope and would set a problematic precedent.

In this case:

If there are references from independent media sources, even if small, they should be evaluated on their reliability and independence, not presumed to be "paid" without concrete proof.

If any editor has added inappropriate promotion across unrelated articles, that specific behavior should be handled through page protection or user warnings/blocks — not by punishing the subject of the article itself.

The organization or its founder should not be penalized simply because someone else (even if affiliated) has referenced the Wikipedia page on social media. Wikipedia is a public platform — anyone can quote it, but that doesn’t make the article itself promotional.

If there are genuinely verifiable, third-party sources that establish the organization's notability — even in regional or martial arts contexts — the article deserves improvement, not deletion.

Let's please focus on the quality of the sources and content, not on assumptions or personal affiliations. If specific references are not meeting standards, we can replace or tag them — deletion should be a last resort, not a first response.

Thank you. MartialArtsStyles (talk) 07:10, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to clarify an important point — deleting a Wikipedia article solely on the suspicion that the news coverage might be "paid" is not appropriate and goes against the principles of neutrality and verifiability that Wikipedia stands for.

If the news sources used in the article are registered media outlets, regularly publish content, and follow even basic journalistic standards, then they should be treated as reliable sources unless there is solid proof to the contrary.

Even if someone has doubts, they are always free to contact the news organization directly to verify the nature of the coverage. But until such confirmation is obtained, removing the article based on speculation is unfair and sets a problematic precedent.

Wikipedia’s policy is clear — if the content is verifiable and backed by independent, reliable sources, it should be considered acceptable regardless of how well-known the subject is.

Therefore, I respectfully request that this discussion stay focused on the quality of the sources rather than unverified assumptions. If any source is genuinely unreliable, we can replace it. But deletion should be a last resort, not the first step.

Thank you. MartialArtsStyles (talk) 07:17, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear NottinghamNinja,

With due respect, I would like to say that mistakes are a part of being human, and mistakes can — and should — be corrected through constructive collaboration, not through deletion.

Let me share a specific example:

You once changed the meaning of Senkoukai Kata on the article, but unfortunately, that edit was factually incorrect. The name "Senkoukai Kata" was actually proposed by Takayuki Asami, a Japanese Karate Master, as part of the Senkoukai system.

So when such a change is made in good faith, but turns out to be inaccurate — should the entire article be deleted because of it? Or should it be corrected?

Surely, we agree that it would not be fair for one person’s unintentional mistake to lead to punishment for someone else’s work, or for an entire tradition to be erased.

My sincere request is:

Please do not recommend deletion of the Senkoukai article. Instead, let's work together to improve it — by correcting content, adding reliable sources, and removing anything promotional if needed.

This is how Wikipedia grows — not by removing emerging knowledge, but by refining it.

Thank you for your understanding. MartialArtsStyles (talk) 07:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia Team,

I sincerely wish to say that I am facing difficulty in writing in the proper style and language required for Wikipedia. Because of this, there are some issues in my article.

I kindly request your help in improving my draft. I promise to follow all Wikipedia rules and provide only verified and truthful information, with references from reliable newspapers and sources.

Please guide me through this process.

Thank you 🙏 MartialArtsStyles (talk) 07:39, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter about any other page, that is called "whatabout-ism".

The presumption of "paid" that Mr. Ninja is referring to is because of the tone and content of the article, and possibly the unfortunate tendency to find articles like that in other similar publications.

And there is precedent for the subject of articles being blocked in some way due to persistent abuse of adding things that are not notable to Wikipedia.

Now, going through the sources that you have claimed show notability:

1. epaper.kothaswaram: The about us page on the website is blank, the contact us page just shows 1 guy's name, there is no indication this is a fact checked paper with editorial oversight, the kinds of things needed to show that a source is trusted.

2. Asian Community News: The article is credited to "ACN correspondent" which is usually not a good sign when evaluating sources. This organization looks much better than the first one though. I can actually read this one and the tone is a bit heavy handed which is part of why it appears suspect.

3. Telenaga Today: Now this is actually a decent looking source but it is an interview so it doesn't contribute to notability.

4. same as 3. Like actually the same article as 3, I don't know why it is used instead of 3.

5. Very similar to 1. I am not seeing indications it is a reliable source.

6. same as 5, neither of these are very long so even with being reliable I don't think they are in-depth.

7. Similar problems to above sources, there isn't an author listed and other things lacking to show reliability as a source.

8. The same article as 7. I may not be able to read this but I can still pattern match. It says the same thing.

9. The exact same article as 6. Are you just puffing up the number of sources? And this source doesn't include the names for the kata which it is being used as a source for.

Now that I have spent the time going through all of these sources, the onus is now on you to show how I might be wrong or to show other sources that are reliable and demonstrate the notability of this organization. Moritoriko (talk) 07:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Moritoriko,

Thank you for taking the time to go through the sources in such detail and for sharing your analysis so thoroughly. I genuinely appreciate your commitment to upholding Wikipedia’s reliability and quality standards — your effort reflects a deep respect for the platform’s integrity.

Your comments have helped me better understand the areas where the current sources may fall short, especially regarding editorial oversight, named authorship, article tone, and duplication of content. I acknowledge that some of the sources, particularly [1], [5], and [6], may not meet the threshold of WP:RS.

In terms of WP:NOTABILITY, my intention is to establish it through independent, in-depth, and secondary sources that genuinely reflect the organization’s standing and impact. While interviews like the one in Telangana Today may not directly establish notability, I included them as part of a broader context to show media interest — though I understand this alone is insufficient.

Based on your feedback, I will revisit the list and work towards gathering more robust, well-established sources — preferably from recognized publications with editorial standards and independent analysis.

If you happen to know of any direction or standards that might help identify such sources better, I’d truly appreciate your guidance. My intent here is not promotional in any way — only to ensure that if the subject is truly notable, it is represented fairly and within policy on Wikipedia.

Thank you again for your thoughtful feedback. It’s genuinely helpful and very much appreciated.

With respect,

User:MartialArtsStyles MartialArtsStyles (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello respected editors,

I humbly request that the Senkoukai page not be deleted at this time.

I fully respect Wikipedia’s notability, verifiability, and reliable sourcing policies (WP:N, WP:V, WP:RS). I understand that the current references may not have fully met those standards. However, I am actively working on collecting stronger and more reputable sources, including well-known national newspapers like The Times of India, The Hindu, and other independent, fact-checked publications.

These upcoming sources will offer in-depth, third-party coverage of Senkoukai’s history, activities, and recognition, which I believe will help establish the subject’s encyclopedic notability.

All I respectfully ask is a little more time to improve the article and bring it into full compliance with Wikipedia’s content guidelines. I have no intention of promotional editing—my only goal is to ensure that if the subject is truly notable, it is represented fairly, neutrally, and policy-compliantly.

Please consider pausing the deletion temporarily so I can make the necessary improvements. I am fully open to guidance and collaboration with fellow editors to meet the required standards.

Thank you very much for your time and understanding.

Respectfully,

User:MartialArtsStyles MartialArtsStyles (talk) 08:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In terms of Senkoukai being its own style of martial art I think it is too in its infancy and not notable enough yet to warrant its own article. It doesn't appear to have multiple clubs training in it.

From what I have seen it just looks like basic Shotokan, I haven't seen any of the 10 unique Kata's either, the person who runs it is a self promoted 10th Dan and appears to be only in his early 30's.

I don't believe this warrants it's own article as of yet, maybe later down the line in about 15 years if it grows to be a common style, but not yet, it seems only to be set up for promotional purposes. NottinghamNinja (talk) 10:17, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also the fact that they have linked the wikipedia page on Facebook is a major red flag which should push towards deletion of the article.

There are styles I am aware of which are far larger that don't have their own articles yet, such as Go-Kan-Ryu style which was founded in 1984, that style is commonly referred to as a fraudulent school within the martial arts community and I would also agree, but the size of it is huge and practiced heavily in Australia, the UK, across Europe and in the USA yet they do not have an article.

Another style I am aware of is Tetsudo, that doesn't have an article but is its own style respectively even with a unique uniform. NottinghamNinja (talk) 16:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Niko de Weymann

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Non-notable supposed polymath. Claimed notability in numerous fields but fails to meet relevant guidelines an any: fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NSPORTSPERSON, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:MUSICBIO. Cabrils (talk) 00:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – The subject does not have any news coverage.Mysecretgarden (talk) 04:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I came here because this AfD was in the Artist category, but can't find anything about his work as an artist; no notable shows, collections, reviews, etc. It's unclear exactly what they are notable for. Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, WP:CREATIVE, WP:NMUSICIAN. - Netherzone (talk) 02:02, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't appear to meet any WP notability criteria. There's also no significant independent coverage. In fact, some of the links are dead and his name doesn't even appear in several of the other references. Papaursa (talk) 04:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Global Fight League

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This article is clearly promotional WP:PROMOTION. The event never took place. It is not clear why it deserves a Wikipedia article, let along three (Global Fight League, GFL 1 (2025), GFL 2 (2025)). It is unknown whether this event will ever take place or will have a long history. Notability has to be sustained WP:NSUSTAINED. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. WP:NOTNP JohnMizuki (talk) 10:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. While I consider this article as having promotional language not suitable for the mainspace, that’s language that can be fixed through editing. However, the fact that it’s cancelled means that it should be draftified until more recent, independent sources get added to the article released after its cancellation other than just announcements and details of cancellation, etc. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 12:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify Per Kaito-san Servite et contribuere (talk) 16:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. due to cancellation. The subject may be potentially notable, but I recall that articles about upcoming events or films should generally not be live unless their release is certain Goodboyjj (talk) 05:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. I agree with everything Kaito-san wrote. Most probably the fate of the organization as a whole will be clear in half a year. Ticelon (talk) 13:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Agallar

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The subject doesn't seem to meet WP:NMMA, and was never ranked in the top 10 world rankings, highest ranked achieved was #16 according to Fight Matrix see: [74]. Lekkha Moun (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Some coverage here: apparently he won some sort of world title? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cool find. Never heard of Absolute Fighting Championship, I'm not convinced this is big enough to pass WP:NMMA. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA and lost all 3 of his fights to fighters ranked in the top 20. The article has no significant independent coverage. My search found him mentioned in databases and fight results, but that's not enough to meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. According to WP:MMANOT, Absolute Fighting was a second tier promotion and added nothing to a fighter's notability. Papaursa (talk) 01:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oskar Piechota

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Subject has lost 4 of his 5 fights in the UFC, and has been released. According to Fight Matrix, his highest ranked achieved was #48 [75], doesn't appear to meet WP:NMMA. I don't see this article meeting WP:GNG with mostly fights results and passing mentions. Lekkha Moun (talk) 08:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Seems fine for Basic WP:GNG to me with what whats on the article and pt:Oskar Piechota. Govvy (talk) 08:01, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your vote is based on the Polish wiki article? My analysis has only found fight results, fight announcements, profiles, nothing to establish WP:GNG at all. For example, all four MMA Junkie articles are fight results. Please let us know which source you consider independent significant coverage, because I don't see any. Below is my analysis of all 16 Polish wiki sources in order:
- [76]: Figther profile N
- [77] UFC Rankings N
- [78] Fighter profiles N
- [79] Tapology profile N
- [80] UFC profile again N
- [81] fight announcement/passing mention N
- [82] Routine fight result coverage N
- [83] Event announcement N
- [84] Fight result N
- [85] Event announcement N
- [86] Fight result N
- [87] Fight announcement N
- [88] Fight result N
- [89] Fight result N
- [90] UFC 245 Results N
- [91] Sherdog profile N
Passing mentions and event results are not sufficient to meet GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 17:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA or WP:ANYBIO. My search of the references in the English article produced essentially the same conclusions as Lekha Moun. I don't see how he meets WP:GNG or any other WP notability criteria. If someone can use WP:THREE and show me how he meets WP:GNG, I will reevaluate my vote. Papaursa (talk) 01:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep You can't just delete an article because the parameters have now changed for Notability. At the time the article was made, they were required to have 3 fights in the UFC. If you're gonna set the precedent of deleting the article of someone with 6 UFC fights. That means that 85% of all fighters who have fought in the UFC need to have their articles deleted too. Also he didn't lose 4 out of his 5 UFC fights. When he went 2-3 with 1 No Contest.Rickyc123 (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, SNG can be changed at any time by consensus. A few years ago sports notability criteria were significantly changed when participation criteria were removed. In fact, some sports were removed completely from WP:NSPORT. Papaursa (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rickyc123: You can't just delete an article because the parameters have now changed for Notability. – This is actually a very common thing. Notability guidelines are often updated for a reason, and if an article doesn't meet whatever new guidelines are established (or GNG if the SNG is removed), then it's perfectly reasonable to nominate an article for deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:33, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The requisite citation to an IRS SIGCOV source has not been identified, and certainly neither has anything approaching GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A few other sources [92][93][94]. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't pass WP:GNG, and WP:SIGCOV:
- [95]: Routine coverage for being released by the UFC... N
- [96]: Routine fight result N
- [97]: Routine coverage for doping suspension N
Lekkha Moun (talk) 18:02, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's really stretching routine, particularly on the second one you listed (which is out of order from how I listed them). You can't "pass" SIGCOV. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:08, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep – Looks sufficient notable in his country, and have a minimum of coverage to sustain an article (per sources above). Svartner (talk) 13:00, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jimmy Simpson (North Carolinian racing driver)

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Not enough sources, solely secondary coverage from one database source. Finn Shipley (Talk) :) 01:53, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also could not find a single source that talks about this particular person besides the databases. Finn Shipley (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cody Kiemele

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Cannot find strong secondary coverage, minor part-time driver that relies on database sources for most content Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The author has provided this source [98], it should be considered when looking at the article overall Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 17:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't an independent source: Cronkite News is an Arizona State University publication and the story is about Kiemele being recruited by ASU. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jerry Bowers

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Regional-level NASCAR driver with no championship wins. Fails to meet WP:NMOTORSPORT or WP:WikiProject NASCAR/Standards. Citations are database entries and an obit. Nothing better found on search. — Moriwen (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Idaho Statesman wrote a great deal of stories about him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are pages on hundreds of "regional drivers", the page could use more sources but shouldn't be deleted. ThunderC12 (talk) 23:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't think this is the same person [99], that's about all for sourcing... I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thoughts on what BeanieFan11 linked above? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No sources have been presented yet - just a search tally. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep coverage of driver through BeanieFan11's link seems to show sigcov. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Am I seeing the same as you? All I see is that the keywords Jerry + Bowers yield 10,707 matches when restricted to Idaho newspapers. The same keywords, incidentally, yield 1,860,588 hits across the whole collection, of which 12,678 are in England. Unsurprising since there are many people named Bowers who will be mentioned in articles also mentioning people named Jerry in English language newspapers, but why would we think any of those are about this person? If all we have is a search tally then we have no sources yet. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you're logged in to Newspapers.com, it shows "best match" articles. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so which of these are not just news reports but secondary sources? And all I see when doing that, is the Idaho Statemsan, which would count as one source if any of these are secondary. Again, we need to go on more than a search results list. Could we find a few sources showing more than one newspaper, and more than straight news reports? Thanks.
ETA: This link will allow access to the search list and the related articles through the Wikipedia Library: [100] Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Some sources: 1 2 3A 3B Some others that aren't as good 4 5 6 Obit: 7 ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:33, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for these. The first of these significantly covers him, in an article occasioned by his climb towards a national NASCAR circuit placement. By the third article, written 2 years later, his dreams, it seems, have become a reality. Now these are all in one paper, the Idaho Statesman, and primarily written by the same correspondent: Ray Giffin. The Idaho Statesman is the daily newspaper of Boise, Idaho. We are told he went to school in Meridian Idaho, which is an adjacent conurbation to Boise, so the greater Boise area. This is local interest coverage, although it is significant.
GNG requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable and secondary sources. Multiple articles in a single source like this will count as a single source for GNG. This is especially relevant when the source is of a local nature. So - is there anything else? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kotaro Shimbara

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Subject does not quite pass WP:SPORTCRIT and a cursory search did not yield anything useful. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There is no indication that @Vanderwaalforces did even a cursory WP:BEFORE search in Japanese WP:NOENG or is competent enough in Japanese to do so. Just the first page of Japanese results include a full-length feature in Motorsport Magazine (which while partially an interview passes for notability), Auto Sport coverage of his Honda Racing School scholarship (also in Chinichi Shimbun), another full feature in JSport, along with regular coverage of his race results. DCsansei (talk) 04:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DCsansei Ah, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Winning a school championship does not count in itself at all, and having sources that either fail WP:INDEPENDENT or WP:SIGCOV do not help too. @JTtheOG thoughts? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely none of the sources DCsansei provided fail WP:INDEPENDENT. You could, at most, class Auto Sport as WP:ROUTINE. MSport1005 (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh no, the publications might not be directly connected to the subject, but those pieces from them clearly are. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Those pieces from them clearly are" isn't a compelling argument. You're gonna need to try harder. MSport1005 (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned, I only looked at the first page of results. Doing a competent WP:BEFORE is something nominators are expected to do, which you've stated you're unable to do in Japanese. DCsansei (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you both provide clear-cut GNG-sufficient sources to establish notability for the subject, then I am still very confident the subject does not meet the threshold. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This seems like a borderline case from a WP:GNG perspective, although Formula Four drivers are rarely notable. My suspicion is that this needs a thorough WP:BEFORE review from multiple people who can read Japanese to resolve the above dispute. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. What DCsansei said is correct, and I agree with the statement made before

Thfeeder (talk) 04:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thfeeder I’m sorry, but your !vote is baseless in terms of policy as it applies to notability, which is what I am questioning in the first place. You’re telling me I do not have competence in Japanese but you’re not bringing any source to justify your stance. If you are competent, please bring the sources and let us evaluate, that is what AfD is about, not to caste aspersions indirectly. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify - I am going to mostly agree with HumanBodyPiloter5 here. It may well be borderline, but we are not at GNG on the sourcing presented so far. The reports that he will participate in FIA is routine announcements of the kind that every racer will get. These are not independent of the subject, because the announcement is not independent, regardless of who repeats it. It is technically primary news reporting, and also excluded on that basis. This can't be used to demonstrate notability on its own. If we accepted this then all F4 drivers would be automatically notable, and there is no consensus for that. So what we need are sources that independently cover the subject. It may also be WP:TOOSOON in that he is much more likely to be notable should he win races. Is there a suitable redirect target? If there is no suitable redirect, then I would suggest we draftify this new page (and this is my !vote for now). We have no evidence of notability, but we have at least the possibility that a deep search in Japanese searches will yield more, and also that he may do well and thus see more coverage. Equally, a very real possibility there are no better sources right now. But if the page creator of this new page can find sources, they could submit through AFC when they have been found. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify Seems new to the game and has not received significant coverage. May indeed be WP:TOOSOON. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:00, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Probably too low in the "minor leagues" to gather much attention. I searched for .jp sources, they all appear to be blogs. This site [101], has coverage typical of this, but that's pretty much it. I don't see enough to show notability. Sources above are as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b What do you think about draftifying the contents of this page and creating a redirect (to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship) as suggested by Sirfurboy below? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I continue to believe the GNG threshold is met for this article given the three separate sources I've provided. I'm also disappointed by the comment in the relist suggesting that a competent native-language WP:BEFORE is unnecessary. That would only make Wikipedia's systematic-bias problem worse. That said, if editors don't feel that the subject currently merits his own article, I suggest a merge to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship. DCsansei (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is an epidemic of Relisting going on at AFD these days do to widely different arguments being put forward and a general decline in numbers of editors participating in deletion discussions but I'm going to relist here because otherwise I see No Consensus and I don't think that result would make anyone satisfied especially editors who are voicing support for draftification. A source analysis can be helpful to get a discussion back on track after several weeks.
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Comment - Source assessment by Sirfurboy - per the relist comment, here is my analysis of the sources we have. Reading the sources deeply, and especially the first two, I believe there may be reason to expect race wins will follow, and thus more publicity, and thus draftification may be in order. I note the merge suggestion by DCsansei, but think that merge there would put undue information on that page. However a redirect to there, preserving this page history in a redirect that can be overwritten should he become notable, is a perfectly good WP:ATD.

Motorsport - An article about the page subject profiling him and occasioned by the announcement that he will participate in the French F4. Now this is routine coverage of any new driver. They will gain a profile, put out by the team, and published in the appropriate press, when a new driver starts. It stands to reason that they will do this as part of their publicity, but this would only demonstrate notability if, in fact, all drivers are notable. They are not, and that is a consensus view. So what is wrong with the specific source? It is news (primary) and it is publicity put out by the team, so not independent. N
Autosport - News report that he won the racing school Suzuka scholarship. This demonstrates he shows promise, but it is not itself any kind of major race win. Rather it shows that he will get a place as a driver. Where it does not meet GNG is that this is a primary source: it is news reporting of his gaining a scholarship. WP:PRIMARYNEWS has guidance. People are not notable simply for gaining scholarships. N
Chunichi Shimbun - A passing mention. No SIGCOV. N
Jsports - This is an interview, and interviews are not independent and are primary. WP:IV has guidance. The occasion of an interview can be indicative, however. Thus, looking at this one, why is he interviewed? The piece says he aims to be a champion in the full race for the first time in two years this season. It is an interview of a hopeful. We could only accept this as in any way indicative of notability if all drivers are automatically notable. N

Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking time to look at the sources yourself. I, of course, support draftifying the article and redirecting the title as suggested as that makes sense. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Draft would not be my choice, given the source analysis above and what I couldn't find... No strong objection if it does go that way. There might be Japanese sources that come up. Oaktree b (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Melissa Maughn

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No notable, independent wrestler. Sources are mostly WP:ROUTINE results, lack of in-deep third party sources about her. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiana Ringer

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No notable, independent wrestler. Sources are mostly WP:ROUTINE results, lack of in-deep third party sources about her. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Babacar Sar

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Fails WP:NSPORTS due to lack of IRS Sigcov. There was an Senegalese sports minister with the same name, but no sigcov for this person found in my WP:BEFORE. FOARP (talk) 13:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Mauritania at the 1988 Summer Olympics#Wrestling – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 18:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Paragon (professional wrestling)

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Duplicate of The Undisputed Era. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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been told that until there's a reliable source that indicates paragon is a contiuation the undisputed era its own article is for the best for now Imdeadinside12 (talk) 23:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Imdeadinside12 What source would that be? Lemonademan22 (talk) 13:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that what you said on the Undisputed Era talk page? Imdeadinside12 (talk) 19:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Imdeadinside12 Negative. I said it would be a better option to make a seperate article than continue The Undisputed Era one as tha would be original resarch. Lemonademan22 (talk) 19:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t that what happened tho? So what’s the proble? Imdeadinside12 (talk) 20:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Imdeadinside12 I do not know. I didn't nominate the article for deletion. You would have to ask the nominator that question. Lemonademan22 (talk) 22:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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like Lemonademan22 said i think it would be best to keep it a seperate article than continue the UE one since that would be original research but we can easily merge this with the UE when a reliable source says otherwise. Imdeadinside12 (talk) 01:39, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Conglomeration

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Short-lived faction with little to no significance. Members no longer affiliated according to AEW roster website and probably would not be brought back. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 22:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I was tempted many times to propose the article. Short lived stable, no in-deep reliable sources about it. I dont know the obsesion of AEW with stables. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are shorter articles with less significance. This faction technically has not even disbanded, two of the "former" members are wrestling on the same team in a match tonight. All of the former members (except one who works full time in Japan) are still active in AEW. This article shouldn't be anywhere near deletion. SwitchMIX (talk) 22:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Notable in my opinion. Lemonademan22 (talk) 02:04, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Warriors 4 Christ Wrestling

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No notable pro wrestling promotion. quick search shows 0 results. Since it was deleted in 2008, i recomend WP:SALT HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment — Alternative weeklies are typically regarded as credible journalistic sources. Are we disregarding that source because of a dead URL? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 18:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- One source. Per WP:GNG, "multiple sources are generally expected" looking here, there are mostly wikias, reddit and facebook/youtube. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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