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[edit]- Jason Dasey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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That's biograme is merely sourced, it's known that he works as journalist that's all there no reasons for meeting notability guidelines The Wolak (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Ebenezer Wikina (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources made up of interview, primary source and passing mentions thereby failing WP:GNG Mekomo (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Delete. - Fails WP:JOURNALIST and no secondary sources. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 18:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Delete: fails WP:GNG King ChristLike (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ghana Library Journal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Artucle PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article de-PRODded by article creator after adding 2 sources that however also do not satisfy either NJournals or GNG. PROD reason still stands, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 21:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Ghana Library Association. Fails WP:NJOURNALS for a standalone article, but no reason why it can't be part of its publisher's article. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:20, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Ghana Library Association where it merits a mention. Star Mississippi 02:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge with Ghana Library Association: Seems like a good ATD. The journal is notable with regard to the Library Association, but no standalone notability seen enough to warrant an article. — Benison (Beni · talk) 11:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gary Andrew Poole (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn’t seem to meet WP:SIGCOV. One of the sources is a press release, another is some random Flash presentation (which I have no idea if it is reliable or not), another is a 2 sentence mention in an article about a movie, and the HarperCollins profile seems to be a primary source that does not establish notability. (I’m pretty sure every author under that publishing company has a profile on there, and the author gets to write the blurb that goes on it.) Tried looking for other sources but the only other ones I could find were primary. ApexParagon (talk) 20:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: He wrote a book about Pacquio the boxer, but I don't see reviews. I don't think we have enough to pass AUTHOR, or notability either. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: I almost wanted to without searching for more sources and finally get rid of this article lacking notability since 2010. But I found some sources via "EBSCO Information Services", which seems to be the go-choice for book reviews and writer-related stuff: —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 14:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gary Andrew Poole. Baker & Taylor Author Biographies. January 2000:1. Accessed May 16, 2025. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=lkh&AN=49346127&lang=ru&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Gonzalez III JJ, Merino AMF. “One PacMan, Four Biographies.” Asia-Pacific Social Science Review. 2011;11(2):57-65. Accessed May 16, 2025. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=sih&AN=70967692&lang=ru&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Moores A. The Galloping Ghost: Red Grange, an American Football Legend. Booklist. 2008;105(1):32. Accessed May 16, 2025. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=lkh&AN=34225949&lang=ru&site=eds-live&scope=site
- The Galloping Ghost. Kirkus Reviews. 2008;76(15):80. Accessed May 16, 2025. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=lkh&AN=34031994&lang=ru&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Cannella S. Remember the Titans. Sports Illustrated. 2008;109(15):18. Accessed May 16, 2025. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=s3h&AN=34785461&lang=ru&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Keep: Amazing job finding those sources. I added them to the page and removed the GNG tag. He might still need some BLP sources for life facts idk. Moritoriko (talk) 05:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:10, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Romuald Starosielec (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Very minor Polish politician, never elected to any serious post. Declared intend to run for president twice, which got very little coverage, either. No pl interwiki. Seems to fail WP:NBIO. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Richard Hunt (editor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article has existed in a pretty dire state since its creation in 2006. Over the past two decades, a dearth of significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources has been noted. It seems that the subject's alleged notability was inherited from their affiliation with the Green Anarchist publication and their later affiliation with Troy Southgate's national-anarchism.
None of the sources currently cited in this article give the subject substantial coverage independent of these two areas. There appears to be no information that could construct anything resembling a biography about this person. As this article appears to fall short of our notability guidelines on people, I'm recommending this article for deletion; a possible alternative to deletion could be redirecting to the Green Anarchist article. Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Green Anarchism as a suitable alternative to deletion, since he's affiliated with the topic. He is just as affiliated with Green Alternative, but since we have no article on that, I think the former is a better target than some broader article on national anarchism or the political right in the UK. I didn't see enough in a source search that we could use to substantiate a standalone article. czar 13:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal would be a redirect to Green Alternative so I wonder if we should create a stub for that? Otherwise redirect to Green Anarchist would be fine. However, Green Anarchism (which goes to Green anarchism) is far too general and would be a bad move. BobFromBrockley (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bobfrombrockley: Was Green Alternative even notable enough for an article? If there's no significant coverage of it, like there isn't of its founder, then I think it could easily be covered by a few sentences in the Green Anarchist article. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe you’re right. I’ve got a bunch of tabs open so will look. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I see there is currently a Green Alternative page which is a disamb page that doesn’t include Hunt’s group. I’ll add it there. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bobfrombrockley: Was Green Alternative even notable enough for an article? If there's no significant coverage of it, like there isn't of its founder, then I think it could easily be covered by a few sentences in the Green Anarchist article. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal would be a redirect to Green Alternative so I wonder if we should create a stub for that? Otherwise redirect to Green Anarchist would be fine. However, Green Anarchism (which goes to Green anarchism) is far too general and would be a bad move. BobFromBrockley (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: As I took on de-stubifying this article at Project Anarchism, I had lots of tabs open. I've now gone through these and added as much material to the page as I can find. Some of it is from solid reliable sources; some (including more biographical material) is from weaker primary sources. My feeling now is there is enough here to keep the article. However, an alternative that I would also support would be to Rename as Green Alternative (magazine) or Green Alternative (UK) and rewrite it so the focus is on the publication/group not the individual. I would also be happy to merge the content into the (currently badly sourced) Green Anarchist article (but that might give Hunt too much space there). I still have a bunch of tabs open with the aim of improving that article. Pinging previous contributors Grnrchst and Czar in case my edits change their mind, and also John Eden who has done the most solid editing on the GA article and Jdcooper who I believe created this stub. BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Mehzeb Chowdhury (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Other than the sheer obnoxiousness of this article (which is just one long advert about why the subject is the most awesome and interesting man in the world), I'm not totally convinced it meets the notability criteria. Reasons below:
- Many of the sources are just passing mentions, and they aren't always high quality (e.g. a casting website is used to support the claim he is an actor/filmmaker)
- A previous editor has marked the article as relying too heavily on sources that may be closely related to the subject. I happen to agree, and the generally sycophantic nature of these articles is off-putting and undermines the case for notability (given his father is a prominent journalist, I wonder if he has some connections with The Daily Star, which is one of the main sources)
- The big notability claim is his association with MABMAT, and while that is notable, I'm not sure it justifies Chowdhury having an article to himself. Furthermore, this article seems to credit Chowdhury as the sole inventor, whereas The Times was more balanced, indicating he led a team at Durham University that developed it [1]
- As a researcher he has a low h-index [2]
- An excessive number of claims rely on primary sources. A few claims aren't even verified (e.g. that he worked for Goal.com as a correspondent) Leonstojka (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep (creator) The nomination is strictly reliant on issues regarding the article. Issues regarding an article can be raised in its talk page or Wikiprojects' talk pages (I do agree it needs some touch, and I'm willing to do them once able, but that's irrelevant to an article's notability). Just because an article is not up to the mark on some aspects, it does not become non-notable. Many of the sources are just passing mentions- not every source of an article need to be of high quality or of depth. An article fo shizz will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims.There exist several sources (in Bengali as well) in and out of the article that definitely speak volume for this person's notability. X (talk) 21:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment 'An article fo shizz will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims' – Sure, but if we're establishing general notability it is best to have more than passing mentions, because lots of people are sometimes contacted by the media to provide comment for stories. I also have concerns about the promotional nature of some of the Bangladeshi sources (e.g. this one), which read like adulatory press releases. Leonstojka (talk) 13:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - The article has enough RS about the subject (Wired, Digital trends, HuffPost, The Times) to pass WP:NBIO. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 02:54, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment There are more features that are not cited in the article as well, such as this from Ice Today. There's coverage in Bengali too, with TV appearances, features in reputed mags such as The Diplomat and Newsweek where he is introduced as an expert. Overall, why'd a non-notable person get recurrent coverage throughout the years from big pubs. X (talk) 06:00, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Xoak is right. Somajyoti ✉ 20:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep. Notability is clear by the sources. Mifflefunt 03:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Striking !vote of blocked account who was here just to spam porn sites. MarioGom (talk) 16:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)- Comment: Which sources establish notability under WP:GNG? Is it this one from Business Standard? what else? I see many articles written by the subject, but I don't see reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 08:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- The article has refs from Wired, Digital trends, HuffPost and The Times, which are independent RS. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, the articles in The Times and Wired use Chowdhury as a source (as in "Chowdhury says", "he believes", "he told", "according to him"). What he says is not independent of him. Similarly, Digital Trends is an interview with him, so not independent of him. If they consulted any other sources, they don't say so. HuffPost does not contain significant coverage of him. None of these four do anything to help establish notability. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce, These 4 aren't the only sources. Many sources exist about this individual (see the aforementioned points). A non-notable person does not get recurrent media coverage throughout the years (it may well be interviews, passing mentions, anything; he does have sig in-depth cov as well for the record). X (talk) 06:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, the articles in The Times and Wired use Chowdhury as a source (as in "Chowdhury says", "he believes", "he told", "according to him"). What he says is not independent of him. Similarly, Digital Trends is an interview with him, so not independent of him. If they consulted any other sources, they don't say so. HuffPost does not contain significant coverage of him. None of these four do anything to help establish notability. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Attempt at making a source assessment table. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- The article has refs from Wired, Digital trends, HuffPost and The Times, which are independent RS. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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~ Not sure how to rate independence. | ~ Not sure on reliability of this. | ![]() |
~ Partial | |
~ Not sure how to rate independence: asked in Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#c-ActivelyDisinterested-20250516114100-PacificDepths-20250516083000 | ~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional? | ![]() |
~ Partial | |
~ Some interview quotes. Not sure how to rate independence. | ~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional? | ![]() |
~ Partial | |
Prothom Alo https://www.prothomalo.com/lifestyle/5uuxkcz9qu
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~ Some interview quotes. Not sure how to rate independence. | ~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional? | ![]() |
~ Partial |
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~ unknown | ![]() |
✘ No | |
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~ Treat case by case basis per WP:NEWSWEEK | ![]() |
✘ No | |
Jamuna TV Plus Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8x8r90VZE4
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~ | ![]() |
✘ No |
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✘ No | |
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✘ No | |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- @PacificDepths Simply discarding sources labeled as "interviews" is flawed. These are features that include quotations and interview segments, as features inherently contain such elements. You cannot broadly dismiss them by merely labeling them as interviews. Claiming they "feel promotional" is your subjective opinion (these features have proper bylines and are not promo pieces, if so, they'd have been designated as such from these reputed pubs). Overall, I strongly disagree with this source analysis table. Additionally, several Bengali news sources, TV appearances, and passing mentions in reputable publications recognize him as a notable person or expert. Collectively, these demonstrate his notability. GNG is fo shizzle met here. X (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- And by the way, common sense should prevail. The newsweek and diplomat sources were mentioned to demonstrate a point that this person also gets called out for their expert opinion, assessing and labeling these 2 as "One sentence description of subject" is utterly asinine, like of course these are passing mentions. And as I stated earlier, not every source of an article need to be entirely about the subject or of depth. An article will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims. X (talk) 10:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've re-ordered the sources and edited some. I'm not sure how to judge Business Standard, Daily Star, ICE Today. I don't think The Times should demonstrate notability. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 05:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- @PacificDepths, and those who are unfamiliar, TBS, DS, Prothom Alo, Ice Today, these all are reputed and generally deemed reliable publications. X (talk) 07:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wilson Lee Flores (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not much can be written about the subject. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Most of the available information is his role for taking over the Kamuning Bakery. No information on the works that made him awarded the Don Carlos Palanca Memorial Awards for Literature.
See article's state (diff) prior to significant addition by a conflict of interest user Pandesalforum Hariboneagle927 (talk) 06:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - For accountability, my last name is Flores, but I am not related to him. That said, I believe there is information out there about how he became an award-winning writer. I've also added info and sources on how he got 3 Palanca Awards.
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep Author is covered by multiple reliable, independent sources, although I am assuming good faith about national publications that I have not read. The awards are verified and establish clear notability per WP:GNG. Archrogue (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Archrogue.
- 124.104.160.21 (talk) 11:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alinur Velidedeoğlu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It was deleted a year ago, and not much has changed since then. There’s been the same routine coverage of events, interviews, and mentions. Since he’s an advertising executive, some routine media coverage is to be expected, but direct, in‑depth, quality coverage is still lacking. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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Keep: Notability is easily satisfied through both the GNG and the SNG about creative artists. The sources are not routine coverage. His advertising work is covered in depth in two academic papers. He was in charge of Turkey's second largest and oldest political party's advertising campaign. The nominator did an AfC review for this article but did not mention at all any concern about "notability" in their review comments, all their concern was about the non-encyclopedic style and NPOV violations. What is the reason for this inconsistency? If there is a notability concern, they should have mentioned in their AfC review. The subject is also the producer of various notable productions, which received coverage in sources like The Hollywood Reporter, which is considered a reliable source. The second deletion discussion was poorly attended, with non-policy-based !votes. RE: "not much has changed since then", please compare the two versions. Also, please see @Fram's comment in the first deletion discussion. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment This article was declined by Article for Creation on May 3 for being too promotional in tone. Article was then moved to main space by the creator with the comment The article waited too long in the AfC queue, and I disagree with the feedback it received. Feel free to nominate it for deletion if there are any concerns
. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note, but not exactly... I'm not the article's creator. It was created in 2007, and I wasn't active on Wikipedia at the time, and I have no connection to the user who created it. The AfC reviewer and the nominator of this AfD are the same user, and for some reason, they believe not much has changed between this version of the article and this earlier version. Also, they didn't say it was promotional; they said the style violates the Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy. I wasn't sure whether that meant it was too promotional or too defamatory, as there are paragraphs that could be interpreted either way, and all based on reliable sources. Note that the sources that I used are not tabloids, but mainstream Turkish newspapers, columnists, commentators and academic papers. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as
not written in a formal, neutral encyclopedic tone
. I misspoke in my previous post when I stated the article was declined as being too promotional in tone. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)- The nomination statement of this AfD incorrectly states that not much has changed since the prior nomination, that's the reason I asked those two versions to be compared. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- comment I declined the speedy deletion, because the current article is substantially different from the one deleted, which consisted of only two of the current paragraphs. The opinion of a AfC reviewer does not constitute a deletion discussion, there is no need to have any improvement after that. No opinion on the notability, but given that it is harder to assert notability for people outside the english language world (and english references) and the efforts of TheJoyfulTentmaker in improving it, I suggest, that it is draftified/userfied if not kept - Nabla (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as
- Delete As I clarified in the 2nd nomination. I do not think that the sources is adequate for passing GNG.--Kadı Message 10:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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Proposed deletions
[edit]- Paul Ingles (via WP:PROD on 22 January 2024)