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Rainer Strecker

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I was unable to find significant coverage about this German actor. His name appears in many movie databases, but that is not enough to establish notability. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 16:56, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Deletion unnecessary Servite et contribuere (talk) 16:58, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain why? WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 17:34, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhoIsCentreLeft It is kind of a waste of time, or IDK. Just not a big issue. And this article clearly isn't a case of Vandalism Servite et contribuere (talk) 18:23, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhoIsCentreLeft Wikipedia can survive with articles on Non Notable People if it is written in a NPOV Servite et contribuere (talk) 18:24, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are very wrong... According to rules of Wikipedia, if an article fails WP:GNG, it must be deleted, even if its not vandalism or written in neutral tone. Also, non-notable and unsourced articles like this decrease the quality of Wikipedia. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 18:37, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhoIsCentreLeft Two Questions. One, isn't this just a guidline? It does say on Wikipedia:Notability These guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do notlimit the content of an article or list, though notability is commonly used as an inclusion criterion for lists (for example for listing out a school's alumni). For Wikipedia's policies regarding content, see Neutral point of view, Verifiability, No original research, What Wikipedia is not, and Biographies of living persons. Second, how does it decrease the quality of Wikipedia? Servite et contribuere (talk) 19:29, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:DEL, articles that fail notability guidelines are subject to deletion. This article violates Wikipedia policy so it should be deleted. Keeping articles that violate Wikipedia's policy definitely harms its quality. I hope you understand. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 20:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhoIsCentreLeft I understand the policies, but I was asking about the point of the policies on notability Servite et contribuere (talk) 23:39, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WhoIsCentreLeft I don't think this: "Reasons for deletion include, but are not limited to, the following (subject to the condition that improvement or deletion of an offending section, if practical, is preferable to deletion of an entire page):" specifically says "It must be deleted". What does? Servite et contribuere (talk) 23:42, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom: also could not find reliable sources discussing the subject. /over.throws/^✎ 17:45, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Added audiobook work and references which brings the article inside WP:GNG. Inwind (talk) 20:01, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's additional material in the German Wikipedia as well. I tagged it for that purpose. --Jahaza (talk) 21:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmic (Thomas Anders album)

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Doesn't meet WP:NALBUM and lacks significant coverage from reliable sources. Frost 12:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:48, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Demmelhuber

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For someone with such a long list of research publications, I would have expected a higher citation count than 65. Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and I don't see that they pass WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I don't see any possible case for WP:NPROF notability — the subject is a guest professor with just 65 total citations and doesn't have any other research activity as far as I can tell. I also couldn't find any coverage of his business career outside of press releases about his board memberships, so I don't see any case for WP:GNG. MCE89 (talk) 09:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mika'ela Fisher

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Does not meet notability standards per WP:GNG, and reads heavily of WP:PROMO (and likely COI editing). The article relies heavily on primary sources (the subject's own websites, IMDB entries, and self-produced promotional materials) rather than coverage from independent reliable sources per WP:GNG. Most references are to listings on festival websites, agency portfolios, and film databases, which do not constitute substantive coverage; others are of little significant coverage that fail to meet even WP:100W, therefore failing WP:SIGCOV.

It is also relevant to mention the other recent AfD's related to the subject, such as WP:Articles for deletion/Victory's Short and WP:Articles for deletion/Männin. Madeleine (talk) 00:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. WP:TNT this promotion. Main contributors to this and her film pages are Chryopras and Chryopras1, matching up with her production company Chryopras Films. Wikipedia is not a venue for promotion. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Meets Wp:DIRECTOR for Pure Air of the Mountain: For All and None (see Reception section of the German article about that film, please). Some serious cleanup is needed. -Mushy Yank. 19:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WOW! After looking around, I looked at some of the sources in the article. Very promotional. No chance of a neutral point of view. Pretty much the entire article, including the "Biography" section, is a resume. The UniFrance piece. that many are like, is a primary source: Executive Producer : Mika'Ela Fisher, Screenwriter: Mika'Ela Fisher, Costume designer: Mika'Ela Fisher, Executive Producer: Mika'Ela Fisher, Production manager: Mika'Ela Fisher. The movie: cineserie.com (Pure Air of the Mountain: For All and None): Directed byMika'Ela Fisher. Some are all about her slightly androgynous style or IMBd "Publicity listings". So on--and so on. About the IMDb: There are six references to a site that has had many Wikipedia discussions about being unreliable. If acceptable as an "External link" (oops --it is there for 7 mentions), it can only be used once. While many references can be used to support content, there are requirements for there to be significant coverage in independent and reliable sources to advance notability. An issue with modeling images is that Wikipedia is not A resource for conducting business. Summary: The only solution, posited by Duffbeerforme would be to Blow it up and start over. This would depend on no possible COI interference, that sources denoting notability can be found, and promotionalism is dealt with. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:08, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and analysis by Otr500. Paprikaiser (talk) 22:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bass-T

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Does not appear to meet WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG based on a WP:BEFORE search. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment the subject does appear to have an extensive catalogue of releases. Out of these, three singles do appear to have had impact on national charts: Germany and Austria. ResonantDis_tortion 19:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Currently lacks sufficient citations from reliable, independent sources to fully establish his notability. RolandSimon (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reiner Frieske

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Non-notable German handball player. I was unable to find any in-depth sources about him. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: silver medallist from the 1970 World Men's Handball Championship, according to de:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP: Notable for the following reasons: (see German Wikipedia for a slightly more detailed entry)

East German Handball Champion: He was a goalkeeper for the team that won the "DDR-Meister: (East German Championship) in 1964.
International Handball Player: Frieske played for the East German national handball team.
World Championship Appearances: He represented East Germany in the World Handball Championships in 1964, 1967, and 1970, with the team finishing 2nd place in 1970.
Olympian: He competed as part of the East German handball team at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich. He played in 6 out of 6 games during the tournament. The team played in the bronze medal match, but was edged out by Romania (19-16), finishing in 4th place.

References that I found clicking Google News above were in German. — ERcheck (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per ERcheck and sources which I found [1] and [2]. Note: Some sources wrote Rainer instead of Reiner. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 10:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Not encyclopedic and not really relevant to the English wiki. The German version of article looks pretty short too with only 3 sources. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – PDF file looks decent, but does the second newspaper even mention him? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes in the bottom left corner with the title "Geachtet als Sportsmann und Kamerad". 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 14:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's just an interview without independent analysis, so I'd lean towards Delete. Multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found more sources similar to the other pdf, centre left, bottom centre. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per sources presented in this AfD and WP:AGF. Svartner (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jonas Behounek

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Does not pass GNG. The player appears only in databases. No sport achievements, he played only in lower German tiers. FromCzech (talk) 09:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The player appears only in databases. This article from Hamburger Abendblatt is WP:SIGCOV. he played only in lower German tiers. After signing a professional contract with Hamburger SV,[3] he made 28 appearances in the fully professional 3. Liga and over 130 appearances in the semi-professional fourth-tier Regionalliga Nord. The Abendblatt article is not sufficient for me. Perhaps someone can dig up more? Robby.is.on (talk) 10:27, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – The first source is decent, but in my opinion, even only one significant coverage provided on articles is still too weak to establish notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:31, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per de:Jonas Behounek Govvy (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen the article in German and it really seems to have enough sources. Svartner (talk) 23:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, most of the sources are from his (former) clubs. Would you consider one of the sources SIGCOV? Robby.is.on (talk) 23:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Robby.is.on: WP:BASIC has always said then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability, so with what's online, whats on the German article. (although a little heavy on primary sources) I feel it's okay for the basic criteria. I also see room for improvement for both articles. Govvy (talk) 07:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The club references aren't independent though, which was my main point. Which of the sources in the German article do you consider usable for our article, even if not necessarily SIGCOV? Robby.is.on (talk) 11:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I remind what GNG says, that SIGCOV is not a guarantee that a subject merits its own page. His greatest sporting achievements are single season in the 3rd highest German league (during which he contributed to his team's relegation to the 4th league) and an unsuccessful trial at a second league club (as dewiki says). Common sense does not see this as something that should have an entry in an encyclopedia. FromCzech (talk) 08:48, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:50, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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IndustryMasters

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IndustryMasters the company(?) and IndustryMasters the game (formerly IndustryPlayer) fail WP:ORG. I could not find in-depth coverage in reliable sources online.

There are five sources cited but actually eight in total; three are pasted in the middle of the article as external links. Citation 1 is a permanently dead link. Citations 2 to 4 verify that the IndustryMasters website was used to host one event (one game) of a competition in India from 2006 to 2010. Citation 5 does not mention, but is being used to verify the existence of, the event and competition. The first external link is a YouTube video announcing that IndustryMasters won a Learning Technologies Award, a private initiative. The second external link is a WBS source that briefly mentions IndustryMasters twice in the context of the WBS working with them. The Warwick Business School source is an announcement of its partnership with IndustryMasters.

The sourced content does not indicate anything particularly remarkable about the IndustryMasters company(?) and the rest of the article, including information about its gameplay and utility, is wholly unsourced. Its biggest claim to fame is winning an award in 2020 in its niche subset of educational games.

This article was recreated by Sunshinebr after its preceding article IndustryPlayer was deleted on 6 June 2008. Sunshinebr justified the recreation by saying they added sources, but evidently the sources are not in-depth or independent of the company and nobody had bothered scrutinising them until now. All of this article's content was written by Sunshinebr (other users' edits being general cleanup) and nearly all of Sunshinebr's edits are limited to this article.

Seems to me that an article for a non-notable game and later company was recreated and managed to pass unnoticed for several years. Yet through all that time, not one reliable, independent source covered either the game or company in detail, hence a failure of WP:ORG. Yue🌙 01:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am the contributor sunshinebr. some inaccuracies in Yue's commentary _ IndustryMasters is a registered trademark for a proprietary and unique business simulation platform with hundreds of simulation variants, used by major corporations and business schools across the world. To call it non-notable is a distortion. - The activity in India was not 1 game but many editions and variations, and several top business schools. - The Learning Technology awards are a prestigious annual industry event in the UK. Not exactly a "private initiative" as Yue has stated. It may not be US-based, but is important in our industry, recognizing exceptional standards and performance as well as extremely close collaboration with a major academic institution. - I have removed reference 1 (the dead link) from the CPA of Australia as it seems to be out of print now. at the time of original publishing it was a valid reference. - The IndustryMasters platform continues to develop and publish in 2025 and will shortly announce major technological advances in business simulation programming. I would hope that Wikipedia would advance into the 21st century with its thinking, and provide a useful reference to the world across academia and industry.

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunshinebr (talk • contribs) 10:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability on Wikipedia is established by citing independent reliable sources providing enough detail on the topic, not just stating about its subjective importance or awards; this is especially true for articles about companies. ObserveOwl (talk) 03:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not seeing notability here against WP:NCORP. The sourcing present in the article fails to support significant coverage that would detail key information to describe the business and its products. The article is littered with promotional jargon that is generally not encyclopedic at all. The sources indicate some recognition in the field, but these are scattered amongst products or business practices that fail to provide context to the business or really evidence anything about its core notability. If the business is notable within or outside its industry, broader sourcing about the business would be expected. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC) Delete I cannot see it's notability either. Business descriptions, paid and self-published sources only. Maybe some sources exist. --Unicorbia (talk) 13:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. There is an unbolded Keep here so Soft Deletion is not an option. A source review would be helpful here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even if notability surfaces, this article appears WP:TNT worthy, especially given the non-improvement since 2008. The Learning Technologies Awards might be a relevant trade award here, but that doesn't save the article. IgelRM (talk) 21:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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What kind of source review was suggested here? The first 3 are about from a conference, the 4 a homepage of an institute, 5 a gala video and 6, 7 on the Warwick School partnership. That's a clear delete. IgelRM (talk) 19:31, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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