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Miles Routledge

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If not WP:BLP1E, then WP:BLP1E-adjacent. Was in the news once because he went to Kabul in August of 2021, and again because he went back to Afghanistan in 2023 and got arrested.

He is listed as an author but the only source I can find on the internet about him writing a book mentions it in passing. Having 171,000 subscribers on YouTube is probably not enough to meet notability requirements on its own.

I don't think this meets WP:N. —tony^{st (talk)} 01:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article is definitely not a WP:BLP1E, since as you say, there are at least two notable events -- two being a different and larger number than one, and explicitly not the focus of this policy. There is not a "WP:BLP2E" policy. Without even doing a WP:BEFORE search, in the currently-existing article there are a variety of sources that satisfy WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV:

Wallen, Joe; Sabur, Rozina (2023-04-01). "British self-styled 'danger tourist' captured by Taliban secret police". The Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 2023-04-02.
"Tourist stranded in Kabul says he has 'no regrets' in Afghanistan collapse". NZ Herald. 2 November 2023.
"British College Student 'Lord Miles' Claims He's Stuck in Afghanistan". Vice. 16 August 2021.
Hardy, Jack (August 16, 2021). "British student stuck in Kabul after 'danger tourism' stunt backfires". The Telegraph.
"'If I die, It'll be funny I think': A student named 'Lord Miles' is live streaming from Afghanistan after getting 'stuck'". The Daily Dot. August 16, 2021.
Ball, Tom (August 15, 2021). "British student on holiday in Afghanistan 'accepts death'". The Times. Archived from the original on August 15, 2021. Retrieved August 15, 2021.
"UK student who travelled to Afghanistan for holiday evacuated". BBC News. 2021-08-17. Retrieved 2021-08-17.
"Two of three British men being held by Taliban allowed call to families". BBC. April 2, 2023. Archived from the original on April 2, 2023.

Looking him up on a web search, I see that he was also in the news last year, apparently for going on some sort of bigoted tirade on Twitter (see [1], [2], [3]). While I do not think acting like a racist knob on the Internet is noble or worthy of celebration, the man would seem to clearly meet our notability guidelines. jp×g 🗯️ 01:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andreas Skotidas

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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference currently in the article is Olympedia, which is not a IRS, and all I could find elsewhere were mentions. Let'srun (talk) 23:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Dasey

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That's biograme is merely sourced, it's known that he works as journalist that's all there no reasons for meeting notability guidelines The Wolak (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trap Lore Ross

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Obviously AI generated article not in encyclopedic tone. It reads very promotional and puffery. Subject might be notable, but this is not an acceptable article. RoseCherry64 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking at the main editors contributions, I see several good articles and even a featured article. Yet, this really reads to me like an obvious example of AI generated text which confuses me. I don't want to accuse a productive and experienced editor of using AI, so I really apologize if that's not the case. Sources are pretty poor and some seem entirely unrelated to the text it describes, like the opinion piece from Defector describing him highly negatively used as a reference on the sentence "His content often delves into the real-life events and legal troubles of musicians, presenting a blend of music journalism and cultural commentary." RoseCherry64 (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am really not even sure how to address this tbh, but no, it is not AI written. I use grammarly often to sort out better sentences structure. In your defence, someone once told that only AI uses the word "delve". Feel free to check the factuality for each sentence using the inline sources, so you can be sure that: The article does not include hallucinated information or fictitious references. As for copyright violation, use Earwig.

Anyway, AfD are normally based on policies, so you need to indicate in your nom the policy that you think this article is violating. Have a read through Wikipedia:Deletion policy and if you change your mind, you can withdraw the nom.

Also please when you tag an article, it is better to add more details in the page talk so editors know what to fix. Good luck FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To respond to the above, and while I will believe you on not writing the entire article with AI, it has the exact same non-encyclopedic tone of AI. If I would ask a LLM to write an article, I would get an indistinguishable result in prose. I do believe the article contains citations that do not match the actual sentences. Another example is the sentence "He also delves into the evolution of hip-hop culture, and the intricate relationships between rap music and broader societal issues" is completely unrelated to the two citations, one which seems to just be a page with an embedded video? If he has covered the evolution of hip-hop culture, the source does not explain it.

I did not explicitly link anything but my reason for nomination is WP:ATD-E "If an article on a notable topic severely fails the verifiability or neutral point of view policies, it may be reduced to a stub, or completely deleted by consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion". I am not arguing against the notability about this person, only that the quality of the article is so poor that it's not worth keeping in this state, especially considering it's a biography of a living person. RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:50, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just passing by, but Grammarly uses AI now so that is likely why it might appear AI-generated. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I don't see GNG, source 2 is a RS, it mentions the person... 5 and 7 are the only other RS, that briefly mention this person, mostly re-quoting TMZ or talking about a documentary this person made. I can't find any sources either, these are all TMZ or other gossip sites. Oaktree b (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrea Della Valle

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Lack of wp:SIGCOV and fails Wp:GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:NOTPROMO. One more business man who tells us what he has, but not how he got there. Honorary degree, honorary citizenship. He's a billionaire and "vice-chairman of the Tod's Group, of which his brother Diego Della Valle is chairman." So what? — Maile (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lacks sources and fails notability guidelines. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 18:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ebenezer Wikina

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Sources made up of interview, primary source and passing mentions thereby failing WP:GNG Mekomo (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. - Fails WP:JOURNALIST and no secondary sources. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 18:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: fails WP:GNG King ChristLike (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emir Üyar

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Previously deleted and salted at Emir Uyar... still doesn't seem to have significant coverage with most publications writing about his relationship with Adriana Lima. Hmr (talk) 09:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh

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Most sources are just passing mentions or about retirement or Chief, more in-depth sources needed or nomination will not be withdrawn. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:48, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 18. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 17:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Md. Abul Kashem Mia

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Passing mentions only, need evidence for WP:SIGCOV and WP:Three. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not a directory also, not every person deserves a article unless their contributions are detailed and in-depth sources, even 1, must be cited, not just name but also birth, birth place, education and position in work/jobs. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 18. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 17:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Ejaz

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More reliable sources needed, violates WP:RS unless proven then i will withdraw nomination. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:30, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdraw - This can be Keep on the source mentioned.([4]]) Dv24mail (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinky Rajput

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All sources are unreliable. An article in Indian Express is dead link. Non notable. Afstromen (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This is an abandoned article which was created in 2012. Notability tag which was inserted in 2013 shows that there is no new coverage about the topic. But her work as a voice-dubbing artist is impressive. AndySailz (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete for now. I found that her work as a dubbing artist is good but there isn't any significant coverage about her in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kishore Bhatt

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Absolutely non notable Afstromen (talk) 10:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Though his extensive career as a voice-dubbing artist but still fails to pass the notability standards due to the lack of significant coverage about him in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I concur that he has accomplished much as a voice-dubbing artist; yet, it still does not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - working dub actor, but ultimately run of the mill. Bearian (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Babaria

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He has only one news source (Tribune). Filmography is totally unsourced. No significant news coverage. Afstromen (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails to show WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as well as WP:NACTOR. Fade258 (talk) 08:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Awana

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He doesn’t have significant news sources. His filmography is totally unsourced. Non notable in my point of view, please share your thoughts on this. Afstromen (talk) 10:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mustafa Adedeji Tukur

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Fails WP:BIO. Likely UPE 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:NACADEMIC, WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It is not satisfying WP:SIGCOV, and it fails WP:NBIO or WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 03:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No indication of notability under either WP:PROF or WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doar family

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Long-time orphan with severe lack of footnotes and content demonstrating notability. How this had not been AfDed successfully before is beyond me. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:21, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - I found a few sources here and there but not quite WP:SIGCOV. Bearian (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - and hoping someone picks up the writing on the article. The Doar family appears to have been one of the more successful and prominent families and plantation owners in the American south. If you do a Google search for Doar Plantation, there are a lot of returns on that search. If you, can open this: https://schistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Doar-Middleton-Family-papers-1247.0.pdf There apparently are their NRHP properties also in multiple places. :Also see: Stephen D. Doar papers, 1807-1898 The issue is getting someone to write it Wikipedia style. — Maile (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anshuman Magazine

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Mentions, interviews, and unreliable sources (mainly WP:NEWSORGINDIA) is all I can find. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. CNMall41 (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ashish Kumar (actor)

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This article doesn’t have even a single source. I checked on google for this actor and there is not even a single reliable source available. Absolutely non notable in my point of view. Afstromen (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This unreferenced article indicates the weak references that do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Slaughter

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Subject fails NPOL and sources are insufficient to satisfy the requirements for GNG (independent, reliable, and substantial coverage). Some are interviews (not even with the subject), while others are election results from unsuccessful candidacy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:59, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Johannes Hoffmeister (philosopher)

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Notability assessment Xpander (talk) 12:40, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Xpander1, you have created this article as a translation of the de.wiki article and then you yourself have nominated it for deletion 3 minutes later, with this "Notability assessment" rationale. I am not understanding what you are seeking to accomplish by these steps and such a non-specific rationale? AllyD (talk) 19:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Provisional Keep until rationale for deletion is advanced. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:45, 17 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Comment: I just had translated the page, that it got blanked here by User:Onel5969 (on notability and verifiability grounds), therefore I thought I'd bring the page here so that it's better assessed by reliable consensus. If this rationale is not sufficient, then I would be happy to withdraw the nomination. Xpander (talk) 10:11, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So based on this, we have two articles, the original Johannes Hoffmeister on which the article text was reverted, and this new Johannes Hoffmeister (philosopher) which was created to open this discussion. A bit messy, but the AFD rationale is effectively then Onel5969's comment on the other article "Restore redirect - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show they pass WP:GNG. Also, zero sources to satisfy WP:VERIFY". AllyD (talk) 06:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:ACADEMIC 1.c. as per the festschrift Johannes Hoffmeister zum Gedächtnis (1956). Jahaza (talk) 05:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I made Johannes Hoffmeister a disambig, but the philosopher is probably the primary topic, at least for now. Jahaza (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Seems to be a significant figure in Hegel scholarship, overseeing some enormous works (his work was apparently also important for non-German-reading Hegel scholars). There's biographical discussion (in German) in this article. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A history merge is surely appropriate here... Josh Milburn (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@J Milburn, thanks for providing the new sources. I've added those to the article. By WP:HISTMERGE do you suggest that the page-history would be merged with Johannes Hoffmeister (currently a disambiguation page)? If so histmerge suggests that in case that "only one editor has written all of the content" a histmerge is not necessary. What's more is that the aforementioned page was originally created as a redirect to Hans Hoffmeister (water polo) which is a totally different topic, which content-wise it's also not relevant. Best. Xpander (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Melissa Cohen Biden

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Doesn't appear to be independently notable from her husband or father-in-law. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 09:29, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Notable only from Husband and inlaws fails WP:BASIC Destinyokhiria (talk) 10:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Family of Joe Biden, or any other appropriate target. Not in the least notable. Bearian (talk) 21:26, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liaan Ferreira

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This article has been flagged for multiple issues starting in November 2024 without improvement. Having performed a WP:BEFORE I an unable to find references that show that they pass WP:NACTOR. Awards are stated in the article as facts, most are unreferenced. I have examined 100% of the current references and find that none contribute to WP:V of WP:BIO, and I have flagged those I found wanting. My conclusion is that they are decent actor, but a jobbing, WP:ROTM actor, and that we are WP:TOOSOON in their career. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Angus Taylor (disambiguation)

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Unnecessary disambiguation page. Only two people with an article with a primary topic. The other two listed are a non notable musician and a non notable character. Servite et contribuere (talk) 07:54, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Not all DAB entries need to be articles themselves. It is plausible that someone searching for "Angus Taylor" might mean either the Magic Gang musician or the Halloween character, so merely hatnoting between Angus Taylor and Angus Ellis Taylor would be insufficient. That said, the Halloween character link should be through a redirect to section per MOS:DABREDIR. I'll do that. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 10:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Tamzin. Preimage (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep dab with four valid entries (one without his own bluelink but nevertheless passing WP:DABMENTION). —David Eppstein (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 20:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pucky Ali

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. His work is also non notable. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. I have checked on google for this actor and found nothing reliable. Afstromen (talk) 06:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The subject is not inherently notable by inheritance. Fails WP:NBIO. AndySailz (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable at all. Most online search results are about his brother Lucky Ali.Jitendra indulkar (talk) 16:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No indication that this actor is notable per Wikipedia criteria WP:GNG nor WP:NACTOR. Netherzone (talk) 16:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: An alternative to deletion would be to create a personal life section on the father's article (Mehmood (actor)) that covers his children and, of course, any other pertinent information that typically go in such sections. Then this could redirect there, along with any of the siblings, if they are not independently notable. Offhand it looks like Ginny Ali redirects to Ginny Aur Johnny, a film that Mehmood set up as a vehicle for her. And on a side note, the father's article needs some editing for tone - it's decidedly non-neutral, to say the least. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mehmood_(actor)#Personal_life. I've gone ahead and created that section and did a little pruning for tone - I removed some of the unsourced claims and some that were sourced to a site that the Indian film taskforce has judged as unusable. Offhand I'd recommend looking at the kids' pages - some of them didn't look much better. A few looked to have been in the same boat, where their main claim to fame was being his kids. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Geneviève Jeanningros

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Fails WP:GNG. She briefly went viral during Pope Francis's funeral, but other than that... she's just a nun. Luxic (talk) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Previous independent in depth coverage here[5], here[6] and here[7]. Pope Francis mentioned her in print[8][9] and she's been mentioned in books about Francis[10][11]. Additional coverage here[12]. Jahaza (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think it's worth noting that all those sources only mention her in relation to Pope Francis (or she's mentioned by Francis himself). I still fail to see what would make her notable in her own right, regardless of her connection/friendship with the late pope. Luxic (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Arjun Menon (coach)

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No evidence of significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Yes there is some coverage when he died, but that doesn't make up for the fact that he didn't generate coverage at any point in his life, playing internationally for a minor cricket team or coaching similarly minor cricket teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: While the subject had been in minor teams, it is all relative. He coached Singapore's team to win its first gold at an international competition, and Malawi's authoritative figures credited the subject for the growth in the sport in the country since he joined them. Given that there are sources being used over time in the article already, it is likely that there was coverage of the subject, just not found or used, i.e. [13], [14], [15] – robertsky (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep The person was notable, so was his death. Article needs to be kept as RobertSky described.2400:74E0:0:4329:65B5:51AA:A95C:49C (talk) 03:44, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The issues described are about article quality rather than notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:05, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is untrue. I'm saying that I don't believe sufficient sources exist to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Seems to have sufficient sources and notability. If it needs to be significantly redrafted, that's what should happen, it shouldn't be deleted. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kelvin Uwaibi

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Fails WP:BIO. WP:ROTM business person. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 13:23, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree, nothing notable here. Mccapra (talk) 13:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources are definitely WP:ROTM. I see someone who could be notable if they have SIGCOV sources. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Israel Oladele

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Flagged and failing WP:GNG since October 2024, with no edits to improve it in the intervening period. Fails WP:BIO. Looks like WP:BLP1E based on the grift for which he was jailed in 2020. Otherwise WP:ROTM grifter and pastor 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 13:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG King ChristLike (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gary King (radio presenter)

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Previously deleted at AfD, the article was recreated last November. Notability was tagged and concerns discussed on the talk page. The tag was removed with a recommendation it go to AfD if concerns remain. I have reviewed all the sources on the page. Although there was an attempt to add volume of sources to address notability, none of these do, in fact, demonstrate notability as they are primarily just programme listings and announcements, which lack independence, and we have a selection of self published sources in there including IMDB and Flickr. I'll add my source analysis in a collapsed form to the nom. We require significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. None of these sources meet that.

Analysis of all sources

Energy Fm Not independent. Advertising his upcoming show N
Radio Rewind The site describes itself as The BBC launched Radio 1 and Radio 2 in 1967. This unofficial website rewinds to the beginning. It is a WP:SPS and not a reliable source. Cannot be used for notability. N
Dublin Live On the morning of September 1, 1989, presenter Gary King introduced listeners to the first taste that would be Atlantic 252. - passing mention. Not SIGCOV N
BBC Programme Index also [16] - Primary, not independent and a passing mention N (2 of)
Oban Times Link inaccessible, but appears to just be a programme listing. ? but almost certainly N
[17] also [18], [19] IMDB is a WP:SPS - self published source. Cannot be used for notability. N (3 of)
TVRDb listins also [20] - Primary, not independent and a passing mention N
[21] He takes over from Gary King, who is to remain at the station until the end of the year, when he leaves to pursue other projects. - Passing mention, not SIGCOV and not independent. Primary news reporting too. N
Radio Today 1 Award nomination. Primary news reporting but if he won the award that would be significant and would lead to more coverage. N but if he won then ?. It seems he didn't.
Radio Today 2 Reporting the programming announcement. Not independent of Blue Revolution, and primary N
Radio Today 3 Gary King and Paul Hollins are now listed as covering the shows on the Smooth Radio website. Passing, and primary news reporting N
Radio Today 4 ... whilst Gary King and Gold mid-morning presenter David Andrews get a regular show Passing and primary news reporting N
Radio Today 5 Gary King was installed as the new presenter, which many in the industry assumed was a temporary move. Passing and primary news reporting N
Radio Today 6] London: Gary King - just a listing. N
Radio Today 7She takes over from Gary King, who will present Smooth’s new, national early breakfast show from Monday to Friday - Passing, primary news reporting N
Radio Today 7 Former Radio 1 and Atlantic 252 jock Gary King is to host Cashtime on the UTV Network from tonight. Passing mention, not independent and primary. N Note that all Radio Today would count as one source for WP:GNG but is moot here.
[22] Chrysalis' speech station LBC 97.3 is to launch a weekday hour-long quiz show, and has poached Magic 105.4 DJ Gary King to take the reins. passingmention, not independent and a primary source. N
The Guardian In other changes to the schedule, former BBC Radio 1 and Key 103 presenter Gary King is the station's new mid-morning host Passing mention, and primary reporting N
[23] WP:SPS Self published and it is just a photo. N
Blue Revolution Employee team profile. Not independent, primary. N

Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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OK I can see from the source analysis that a lot of them give a passing mention. But surely because there is repeated, at least partially independent, mentioning of him presenting on national radio, that proves he is notable? I think the repeated mentions by RadioToday and Dublin Live as well as listings are, taken in totality, evidence of his notability? I know it's a nail-biting decision on this one as to whether notability is established but because King isn't the head of Blue Revolution and other presenters with similar careers and Wikipedia articles (like Toby Tarrant) whose Wikipedia articles show arguably slightly less notability than Gary King's have remained up for years, surely the rules should be interpreted a loosely than you have interpreted them? That's might of point view anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 11:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This article has numerous independent references and I don't see how anyone can argue that someone who has presented on national, semi-national and local radio stations, and also worked on national television programmes and channels, for decades is not notable. Rillington (talk) 13:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This editor was WP:CANVASSED to this discussion [24] owing to statements previously made on the talk page and in their !vote to the last AfD. I propose we repair the canvassing by pinging in all other editors involved. Bearcat, Phil Bridger, Funky Snack, Ldm1954, Jo-Jo Eumerus. Let me know if I missed anyone. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes so Rillington did say that Rillington would advocate for the page's retention, should it go to AfD a second time. I think Rillington would have to this very discussion anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but have a read of WP:APPNOTE which is part of the canvassing guideline above. If you ping past commentators to a discussion you should ping them all, and if you leave them a note, it should be a neutral notification. Not to worry. I understand you haven't done this all before, and the matter is repaired now as I have sent a ping to everyone else. But be aware of that for the future. Cheers. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As well as being independent, references must also be secondary and reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject. That is what the General Notability Guidelines say. As per my source review (collapsed above) we don't have any such sources. On Wikipedia radio and TV presenters, as well as journalists and other media figures, are not considered notable just for doing their job. They become notable when someone starts to write about them (and not about programming). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Notability is not established by sources that glancingly mention him — it's established by sources that are about him. Radio hosts, national or otherwise, are not automatically notable just for existing — they become notable if and when they're the subject of coverage and analysis in third-party sources independent of themselves, not just because you can find their name in program schedule listings and staff directories self-published by their own employers. Bearcat (talk) 18:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zaheed Sabur

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The sources are not providing significant coverage of the subject. The Dhaka Tribune offers only a brief background and a quote from the subject. The Daily Star article is not independent; it is entirely promotional. It even includes lines like “Zaheed believes that there are no shortcuts to success,” which suggests a sponsored angle. Fails GNG. GrabUp - Talk 08:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete Somajyoti ✉ 08:51, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As has been explained to you previously, if you think an article is eligible for speedy deletion, you should specify which of the criteria for speedy deletion you think applies. If you just don't think the subject of this article is notable, it's best to just say "delete". Speedy deletion has a very specific meaning and only applies when one of those criteria is met. MCE89 (talk) 10:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I forgot. Thanks. Somajyoti ✉ 20:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete — I nominated this article five years ago (the result was delete), and my opinion remains the same. I am unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The article fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 12:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Ahammed Saad (talk) 13:34, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ilyas El Maliki

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Previously deleted article via WP:AFD in March and nothing has changed since then. The nomination statement in the first AFD and comments therein remain valid. Mekomo (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete G4. Mccapra (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per G4 and the previous deletion nomination. Also salt to prevent future recreations until he actually becomes notable. λ NegativeMP1 13:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Deletion

This article substantially improves upon the previously deleted version by adding verifiable, independent sources demonstrating Ilyas El Maliki’s notability per WP:GNG:

Global Digital Influence: Ranked by Dexerto as the 12th-largest Kick streamer worldwide and Africa’s #1.
International Sports Role: Official chairman of Morocco’s national team at the Kings World Cup 2024, (Video of the game on Kings League's channel), with repeat invitation for 2025 alongside stars like Lamine Yamal.

Addressing Systemic Bias

While I respect Wikipedia’s deletion processes, I must note the recurring difficulty in establishing notability for clearly significant figures from Morocco and the broader MENA region. Despite providing verifiable, independent sources (including industry rankings and international tournament participation), articles like this face disproportionate scrutiny compared to Western counterparts with similar or lesser achievements.

I urge editors to consider whether this reflects unconscious bias rather than policy compliance. Improve articles, not deleting them, should always be the first option. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or speedy delete per previous AfD, little change. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Deletion

the original article of the subject got deleted because claimed "No real sign of notability", I list a number of sources proving that the subject is indeed notable:

- International Tournament Participation: Kings League World Cup 2025.

- Top 15 Streamers Worldwide: ranked at 12.

- Massive coverage by Moroccan press both in English (more), and Arabic.

if all these still don't make the subject notable, then sure go ahead and delete. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update:

just to add one more thing (a fact and a message):

The first 3 months of 2023, the subject of this article was the most streamed gamer on YouTube, surpassing IShowSpeed, all this achieved through a dialect (Darija) spoken by about 40 million people, not a major language (English spoken by over 2 billion people). But somehow he is not notable!

It's really demotivating to continue contributing to Wikipedia against all these (unconscious) biases. This is not an accusation, it's studied and proved, "Reliability of Wikipedia". We come here with good intention to contribute, but seems like not on English Wikipedia, unfortunately. El Maliki is literally the biggest streamer in all of Africa according to all reliable sources included (like Dexerto).

respectfully, ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Gannet

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Sources lack independent depth, and the article reads like WP:PROMO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: See this deletion log also. & the provided sources [ SonicScoop, SongChecks, Mixonline] are primarily interviews/industry publications that not provide independent coverage per WP:GNG. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SonicScoop and MixOnline are fully independent publications. Would alternate or additional sources help correct the issue? The article is not intended as promo and appears to read similarly to other Wikipedia pages regarding other notable recording/mixing engineers. 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed what I am guessing may have been the offending sections. Please advise if any additional changes are necessary 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

additional sources included and tonal revisions made 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Almost certainly some WP:COI editing going on with @Konakaimusic and 148.74.79.119. The Music Connection and Songchecks sources don't name any authors, and do little more than reprint his press releases. I don't see any actual in-depth journalism there. Rift (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
148.74.79.119 and Konakaimusic are both me… edits were made from 2 different devices and one wasn’t signed in to Wikipedia. Is that not permitted? Additionally, subject is interviewed about his work in several podcasts, however they are predominantly audio/video. Are those site-able references? Konakaimusic (talk) 03:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

S. Gurusamy

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL as the subject is only a member of a state legislature, not the federal legislature of India DankPedia (talk) 04:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Invalid reason for deletion. All members of state or provincial legislatures are notable. WP:NPOL says: "Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels." LeapTorchGear (talk) 05:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Member of legislative assembly are notable. This should be on the Wikipedia.Almandavi (talk) 05:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: State legislators are state-wide legislators, this should be kept speedily. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep passes WP:NPOL a State legislator.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I had hoped you would read guidelines more closely after WP:Articles for deletion/Hubert Corsi. WP:NPOL#1 specifically states that Politicians [...] who have held [...] (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. As a member of the Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly, he meets that criteria. Now onto WP:NOPAGE, because this article as is likely would not surpass it. It is notoriously difficult to conduct searches on Indian topics (use of non-Latin script, webpages often not indexed on Google, etc.). As I've worked on articles for Tamil Nadu politicians in the past, I know the state maintains an archive of previous members' who's whos at [25]. S. Gurusamy's is located on page 342-244 here. It will still be quite thin after I add from it, but better than before. Curbon7 (talk) 08:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, his name in Tamil is "செ. குருசாமி"; perhaps this could help in finding further sources. There seem to be more than a few people with this name. Curbon7 (talk) 08:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Additional source with more info: [26]. He apparently changed his name to "S.S. Gurusaamy" on 27 April 2008. Curbon7 (talk) 09:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Updated article with sources I've found. Curbon7 (talk) 10:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Article notable per WP:NPOL Squawk7700 (talk) 09:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes WP:NPOL. MarioGom (talk) 10:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep An elected member of the legislative assembly fully meets WP:NPOL.Jitendra indulkar (talk) 16:29, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Keep Meets WP:NPOL. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per WP:NPOL, lack of WP:BEFORE and WP:Competence is required. I think this nom meets SK#3, "The nomination is completely erroneous. No accurate deletion rationale has been provided." Cavarrone 04:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhin Hossain Prince

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Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NPOLITICIAN. Tagged for lack of notability.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 04:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Not a notable politician WP:NPOLITICIAN WP:N Beylarbey
Delete - Per Nom.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 14:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ravindra Kumar (mountaineer)

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Fails WP:NBIO, created using WP:LLM with only one source that is PRIMARY (self-published). All others are mostly WP:TIMESOFINDIA that has no url/links. Agent 007 (talk) 16:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Beyond the fact that this seems pretty likely AI-written, it is also created by a blocked user, and it is an orphan. Ré union! 18:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Non-notable IAS officer, couldn't find anything in my BEFORE to satisfy GNG or ANYBIO. I have similar concerns about the listed sources being AI generated and being mis-represented (which is what lead to the author's ban, more on that) but just want to clarify of the above !vote that the article was not created in violation of a block or ban, and being an orphan can be remedied and not a valid reason for deletion. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 19:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes, that's true, I forgot to mention that it also pretty obviously fails WP:GNG. Ré union! 15:59, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Dang, reading the other comments further damn this case for deletion. It would fail WP:GNG under normal circumstances but the other circumstances around it further bolster deletion. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 14:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dee Brestin

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Fails WP:BIO. Disputed draftification. WP:DRAFTOBJECT prohibits unilateral return top Draft. WP:ROTM author. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 15:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete None of the references meet WP:RS standards and at least half are just profiles on non-independent sites. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Lamanske

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No notable coverage in the press, the only sources were compilers with data about the player's performance DankPedia (talk) 04:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - my own search came up empty--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 05:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, meets GNG like every MLB player, see e.g. headline stories such as this, and other things such as this and this among others. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please add those to the article DankPedia (talk) 00:04, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can add them too. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. MLB players are notable. Spanneraol (talk) 22:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per BeanieFan11.-- Yankees10 23:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Sources found by @BeanieFan11 prove notability.
Shrug02 (talk) 23:19, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GNG. Clearly a BEFORE fail and another example of why the old NSPORT participation criteria for baseball players (perhaps with some adjustment) would keep us from wasting editor time. Rlendog (talk) 15:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes GNG, clearly closing NSPORT was a grevious mistake done me a group of people that didn't know better. Wizardman 01:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per GNG -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 12:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Jude Tanner

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Doesn't meet GNG. Indication of importance is described as winning a Tony award, among others. This person did not win a Tony award -- their company was one of about 50 companies listed as having a co-producer credit for a production which won a Tony award. TonySt (talk) 17:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keenan Beavis

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Second AfD -- the first one reached a Delete concensus. This began as me trying to do a cleanup of sources and to improve the article as per WP:BEFORE but the more I worked in it the more I realized it does not meet WP:N. Sources cited are mostly WP:TRADES or WP:PROMO (in some cases actual straight-up AI SEO spam articles).

Ground News aggregate (duplicate of a UFV source)
Investers Hangout -- Very obvious AI SEO spam article
Testimonial for SEO platform that was being used as a source? This is the only source for the "Publications" section. Testimonials are inherently not independent or credible.
Daily Hive "Branded Content" -- this is a paid advertisement

Most of the articles I can find on this person appear to be the result of intensive SEO efforts rather than genuine significant coverage in independent secondary sources. The secondary sources that I've been able to find only write about him in the context of being the founder of a marketing agency. As detailed in the original AfD, the trades industry awards or "top" listings referenced in the article are not automatically noteriety claims. TonySt (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete this is absolutely PR/vanity spam about a non-notable person. COOLIDICAE🕶 17:38, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep I agree with the nominator that the mentioned 4 sources are not appropriate, however the remaining sources are OK. For example these sources have enough coverage and don't look like PR or paid placement:

-aldergrovestar.com

-bcbusiness.ca

-sauder.ubc.ca - A university website, can't be paid placement

-alumni.ufv.ca Alumini website, cant be paid

-bcbusiness.ca 30 under 30 This type of coverage can't be paid

-mnbc.ca Award win coverage, can't be paid

Also, the original AFD was in 2022 and the majority of sources cited are after 2022, so that result is irrelevant by now. Rubenpurer (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, here is a new source I have Found:

Canadian SME Small Business Magazine Page 41-43 Rubenpurer (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Manners, Marquess of Granby

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WP:NOTGENEALOGY; no WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: There are enough good sources to show that this person is notable. They have been written about in major newspapers and magazines like The Telegraph, The New York Times, The Independent, and Tatler. Diogo Costa (talk) 19:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Charles Manners is the heir to the Dukedom of Rutland, one of the oldest and most prominent titles in the UK. While he hasn’t inherited the title yet, he holds a well-established courtesy title. He has appeared in reliable sources beyond just birth announcements or society pages, including coverage related to the family estate (Belvoir Castle) and broader public interest in the British aristocracy. That meets the general notability guidelines. There’s also precedent on Wikipedia for keeping pages about heirs to major peerages, especially when they’re in the public eye. Deleting this article would be inconsistent with how similar figures are treated. GrandDukeMarcelo (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - he's pretty high up in the aristocracy and has gotten coverage enough. Bearian (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I personally watchlisted this article because I had plans of making edits to it, there are reliable sources found on the article Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 22:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hubert Corsi

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On the grounds of WP:RS and WP:N When I did my WP:BEFORE i could not find any reliable sources in English besides what was there, and a few unreliable sources in Italian DankPedia (talk) 03:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete searched google and I agree the sources are not RS. Also searcher JSTOR, springer, and Duncker & Humblot and do not see anything relevant Czarking0 (talk) 03:35, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, easily passes WP:NPOL as a national deputy (for multiple legislatures). Cavarrone 04:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As per WP:NPOL "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability"

There are thousands of not notable politicians, Corsi included. DankPedia (talk) 04:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
DankPedia, you misunderstand the guideline. The section you cite explicitly states local official, meaning mayors, city councillors, etc.; Corsi is a member of the national parliament, not a local official. Rather, he falls under the first bullet point in the guideline Politicians [...] who have held [...] national [...] office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels (ellipses mine). Curbon7 (talk) 05:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Curbon7 the guideline also says "The following are PRESUMEDto be notable:"

In most cases there is enough coverage to satisfy this presumption, but here, there is not. So if you don't want to go off of WP:N then WP:RS is also an issue with this article. DankPedia (talk) 05:09, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let me clarify how NPOL works, because there is a subtext. National-level politicians are practically guaranteed to receive significant coverage by virtue of holding high office; this is because the actions they do in office (voting, speeches, etc.) are always going to be covered by media, even if that coverage cannot be found easily on the Internet (WP:OFFLINE). Thus, the main question isn't "Is he notable?", but rather "Is there enough to sustain an article beyond a one sentence sub-stub?" (which is the gist of WP:NOPAGE#3). Curbon7 (talk) 05:32, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The benefits of having an article here with only primary sources don't do much, as a person can easily find more information with just a simple google search.

In terms of offline material, if you don't want the page to be deleted, please find those sources and cite them here. DankPedia (talk) 05:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Expanding on this by saying that if there were new sources that were found to provide more information about this person, then it can deserve its own article.

For now it could just be added to a list of Italian politicians. DankPedia (talk) 05:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First, the subject clearly meets WP:NPOL as an MP ([27]), so we should be assessing this on WP:NOPAGE grounds rather than notability; that is to say, the subject is notable, but is there enough content to warrant a standalone article. A look at his article on it.wiki shows two pages of his two parliamentary terms ([28][29]) which can be used for some details of his tenure like committees and such, in addition to his main parliamentary page linked before. Additionally, a look at GBooks showed this question he gave in parliament which can be used as a supplemental source. I think these two books ([30][31]) have further supplemental information, but I cannot see them in the GBooks preview; I imagine WP:RX can help here. Italian newspaper archives may also be of help, is there a main database to check? Curbon7 (talk) 05:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also noting that his name is given as both the Italian "Umberto Corsi" and the Anglicized "Hubert Corsi". Curbon7 (talk) 05:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Curbon7 If you don't want to delete it, expand it.

All the article says is "Umberto 'Hubert' Corsi (born 30 October 1938) is an Italian politician who served as a Deputy (1983–1994) and mayor of Monte Argentario (1985–1990, 1991–1995)."

That is it. DankPedia (talk) 05:10, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is not a requirement; see WP:NEXIST. Curbon7 (talk) 05:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair. Though when I was doing my WP:BEFORE I could not find any reliable sources, hence the short article.

Additionally, both of the sources that were added are WP:PRIMARY (both were published by the Government of Italy on their websites) DankPedia (talk) 05:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As it says in WP:NEXIST, articles that could have multiple sources can be kept. For this article, there are no WP:RS and all the sources are WP:PRIMARY DankPedia (talk) 05:32, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Curbon7You said "A look at his article on it.wiki shows two pages of his two parliamentary terms ([2][3]) which can be used for some details of his tenure like committees and such, in addition to his main parliamentary page linked before"

If you truly believe there are more sources that are yet to be found, please put those into the article. DankPedia (talk) 05:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Don't bludgeon the process. Cavarrone 05:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per @Curbon7:, there is nothing I have to add that they haven't already brought up. I understand that this article is really small but from my understanding it shouldn't be removed. Dr vulpes (Talk) 05:17, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr vulpes I believe this article4 was nominated for speedy deletion under A1. It still has not met that requirement. All the article says is that the guy is a politician who served as a deputy and mayor. That isn't sufficient information for an encyclopedia article, as per WP:NOT. This work should not be a list of every politician who ever existed. DankPedia (talk) 05:22, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah and a deputy in the Chamber of Deputies (Italy) would count since the Chamber of Deputies is the lower house of the bicameral Italian Parliament. Dr vulpes (Talk) 05:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the A1 tag you added. This was my comment:
"remove db-nocontext tag. Stub consists of one sentence + infobox. Nevertheless, it's clear who this person is and why he has an article."
WP:A1 says the following:
" If any information in the title or on the page, including links, allows an editor, possibly with the aid of a web search, to find further information on the subject in an attempt to expand or edit it, A1 is not appropriate."
A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 20:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - open and shut per WP:NPOL as the experienced editors above have pointed out. it:Umberto Corsi has additional citations to government sites. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 19:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NPOL is a policy, see WP:IGNORE DankPedia (talk) 20:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why would we ignore it? Have you searched historical archives of Italian newspapers? Without a decent search of archives, I don't think there's a good case to ignore WP:NPOL for a national deputy. MarioGom (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NPOL. There's some international news coverage from 1991. There's also coverage in Italian press, for example in La Stampa (at least 13 news pieces, including [32][33][34]) and I assume that in others too. --MarioGom (talk) 22:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per NPOL and WP:BEFORE. Always check foreign language articles for additional sources! Bearian (talk) 00:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clearly meets NPOL as a member of a national legislature. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Sánchez (Dominican actor)

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Article lacks notability AndesExplorer (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, found no sources of value. Geschichte (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this per nom. No sources in the article and out there. Patre23 (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Azeko Tahiru Salifu

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Non-notable bureaucrat failing WP:ANYBIO or the WP:GNG who does not otherwise meet WP:NACADEMIC. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sandra Volk

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This tennis player never won a title, played one Fed Cup doubles match which she lost, had a highest ranking of 505 (despite what it says in the lede - the infobox is correct). Fails GNG and the article is totally without sourcing except the usual external links database bits. I cannot find any SIGCOV about her. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 15:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. A09|(talk) 13:47, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ashok Samrat

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References primarily rely on a single news article from Prabhat Khabar, with two additional sources offering limited coverage, potentially glorifying a criminal figure without enough critical analysis or broader context, which could conflict with Wiki NPOV policy. BharatGanguly (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: [35] This is only a passing mention. Other's i can not find Significant and reliable. B-Factor (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. This reads like an Indian version of Barabbas. Bearian (talk) 01:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete given the AI creation and the paucity of sourcing present... very well could be notable but nothing here that can be salvaged. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Henry O'Hagan

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Being one of the secretaries of Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone, doesn't confer notability on its own per WP:NOTINHERITED, and his actions listed in his article appear to be fairly minor. He is mentioned just once in O'Neill's Dictionary of National Biography entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kirtiraj Gaikwad

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No Independent significant coverage about him and his work. Published scientific articles alone doesn't inherit notability. Draft was moved back to main space without adding anything valuable. Question of COI is also raised by other reviewers. Rahmatula786 (talk) 10:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Unfortunately the nominator has made a fundamental error: scientific articles are sufficient for notability under WP:NPROF#C1. At 42 his h-factor is a little low, and 300 is not that large for his highest cited paper. However, if you look at his areas in GScholar they are not high cite topics, so 42 is a clear pass of WP:NPROF. The nominator may want to reconsider. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
N.B., the nominators statement "Question of COI is also raised by other reviewers" appears to be incorrect, I see no such statements by any reviewers (myself included). Ldm1954 (talk) 11:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPROF#C1 under this there are other points too, just number of publications are not sufficient in my opinion. Regarding COI you are right, I mis interpretated "SELF PUBLISHED SOURCES " as COI. Thanks for pointing it out. Scientific articles , I mean any published article in a Journal is called scientific article and this doesn't justify notability. We need to see quality and impact of such publications. Thanks for getting involved in this discussion. Rahmatula786 (talk) 12:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but you are not correct in your interpretation. So long as the journals are not predatory and there is no evidence of citation manipulation we accept them. (Manipulation can occur, see WT:NPROF#C1 and mathematics). However. I saw (please note tense) nothing when I checked the article a week ago. His most cited work is in Environmental Chemistry Letters which is a decent Springer journal, please see here Ldm1954 (talk) 12:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen your contribution in this article. I am aware of Springer journal. Let me have a review on his published articles once again. Thank you Rahmatula786 (talk) 12:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject passes WP:NPROF#C1, I do agree with Ldm1954. Taabii (talk) 11:48, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. I understand the importance of independent coverage for notability. While the article may not currently highlight significant independent sources, the subject's work is well-documented in peer-reviewed journals, which are highly regarded in academic circles. I can revise the article to add more independent references and clarify any areas of concern. Regarding the COI issue, I have no personal or financial ties to the subject, but I can address any concerns on the Talk page.

Here are the some his independent scientific research highlights in national and internation news and scientific articles:

IIT Roorkee's eco-packaging extends fresh produce shelf life by one week

IIT Roorkee innovates nutritious edible millet straws as a sustainable alternative alternative to plastic

In a first, IIT Roorkee develops kodo millet based edible cup

Indian researchers develop nutritious edible cups to replace conventional plastic applications Bhushanpkg (talk) 12:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Bhushanpkg (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Note: please 'do not add those sources. Those are exactly the type of popular science/advertising which we do not want in an encyclopedia. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some independent scientist new articles.

IIT Roorkee's eco-packaging extends fresh produce shelf life by one week

IIT Roorkee innovates nutritious edible millet straws as a sustainable alternative alternative to plastic

In a first, IIT Roorkee develops kodo millet based edible cup

Indian researchers develop nutritious edible cups to replace conventional plastic applications

14.139.233.131 (talk) 12:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, there is no evidence to substantiate notability. Does not meet the criteria for notability as outlined in WP:GNG. Commenting by IP address signifies the same user as the article's creator. B-Factor (talk) 07:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
probably delete, associate professor isn't enough, and although it's true that peer-reviewed literature counts as independent, for the purposes of NPROF C1 there need to be highly-cited publications with strong impact. Gaikwad has some fairly well-cited publications, but, partly because of his alarmingly high rate of publication, there seems to be quite a high level of self-citation. Also most of his output is a very, very large number of articles of very narrow scope, and reviews; I'm not 100% convinced that this is in keeping with NPROF. Elemimele (talk) 09:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - while it's rare for us to keep an associate professor, it's not unheard of (see, e.g., Barbette Spaeth). That's true in the cases where they have gotten tenure, but have not gotten full professorship for some bureaucratic reason. However, to keep per WP:HEY, I'd really prefer that the sources found literally be added to the article. Bearian (talk) 01:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep associate professors are usually fully tenured professors, Donna Strickland was an associate professor at the time she received her Nobel prize so this should be a non-argument. Instead we should look at his actual impact in the field. His citation profile looks sufficient for WP:NPROF#1 with an h-index of 42 and a total of 16 publications with 100+ citations to pass the bar and is in line with previous outcomes of academics. --hroest 20:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Being an associate professor is absolutely not evidence of non-notability. Many associate professors are notable through their academic accomplishments, and many others are not; the rank provides no evidence either way and we must look at other criteria. In this case, the citation record and WP:PROF#C1 are convincing enough to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn : I find improvement in article after being nominated for deletion. This made me reconsider my decision and hereby withdraw my nomination. Rahmatula786 (talk) 08:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update, but at this point we need to wait out the full AfD period because there still remain other delete !votes. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Hunt (editor)

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This article has existed in a pretty dire state since its creation in 2006. Over the past two decades, a dearth of significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources has been noted. It seems that the subject's alleged notability was inherited from their affiliation with the Green Anarchist publication and their later affiliation with Troy Southgate's national-anarchism.

None of the sources currently cited in this article give the subject substantial coverage independent of these two areas. There appears to be no information that could construct anything resembling a biography about this person. As this article appears to fall short of our notability guidelines on people, I'm recommending this article for deletion; a possible alternative to deletion could be redirecting to the Green Anarchist article. Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Green Anarchism as a suitable alternative to deletion, since he's affiliated with the topic. He is just as affiliated with Green Alternative, but since we have no article on that, I think the former is a better target than some broader article on national anarchism or the political right in the UK. I didn't see enough in a source search that we could use to substantiate a standalone article. czar 13:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ideal would be a redirect to Green Alternative so I wonder if we should create a stub for that? Otherwise redirect to Green Anarchist would be fine. However, Green Anarchism (which goes to Green anarchism) is far too general and would be a bad move. BobFromBrockley (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bobfrombrockley: Was Green Alternative even notable enough for an article? If there's no significant coverage of it, like there isn't of its founder, then I think it could easily be covered by a few sentences in the Green Anarchist article. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you’re right. I’ve got a bunch of tabs open so will look. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see there is currently a Green Alternative page which is a disamb page that doesn’t include Hunt’s group. I’ll add it there. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As I took on de-stubifying this article at Project Anarchism, I had lots of tabs open. I've now gone through these and added as much material to the page as I can find. Some of it is from solid reliable sources; some (including more biographical material) is from weaker primary sources. My feeling now is there is enough here to keep the article. However, an alternative that I would also support would be to Rename as Green Alternative (magazine) or Green Alternative (UK) and rewrite it so the focus is on the publication/group not the individual. I would also be happy to merge the content into the (currently badly sourced) Green Anarchist article (but that might give Hunt too much space there). I still have a bunch of tabs open with the aim of improving that article. Pinging previous contributors Grnrchst and Czar in case my edits change their mind, and also John Eden who has done the most solid editing on the GA article and Jdcooper who I believe created this stub. BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandeep Bhargava

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Not a single source which talks about the subject to define his notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The subject does not pass WP:NBIO, WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Though the article of the profile seems to be notable but lacks reliable news references. hence notable citations needed.
Delete: [36] - 404, [37] - There is nothing to say about Sandeep, [38] - Why this article added as reference?, [39]- Same article as 'The Hindu'. I can't even see the subject's name in any citation. B-Factor (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The articles from Economic Times, Hollywood Reporter, The Hindu, and Financial Express are all legitimate and verified. However the links previously posted took the reader directly to the main home page of these news sources and not to the relevant article about Mr Sandeep Bhargava, leading to confusion. This has been fixed and the relevant articles with the accurate links have now been added. Kindly check. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:31, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:NOTCV. Charlie (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have fixed the article with the relevant and credible sources talking about Mr. Sandeep Bhargava. Kindly peruse. 202.72.225.101 (talk) 06:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have added relevant and verified sources and references, please note. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Collins (taxi driver)

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fails WP:GNG; appears to violate WP:NOTNEWS per @162 etc.: Joeykai (talk) 01:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unfortunately, I have to agree. This doesn't measure up to WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 10:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. 162 etc. (talk) 15:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Also, I would have been very leery of taking a taxi driven by a nonagenarian. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Three reliable sources, including BBC. Unique among cabdrivers. Received award. "His new-found fame led to widespread media interest." There's no good reason to deprive readers of this information. WP is most useful for articles about relatively obscure but still notable people. Station1 (talk) 21:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with the sentiment, but the word WP:notable is where the disagreement is. Even if you think there is enough to establish notability, then we fall into the realm of WP:BIO1E: his notability is only due to one "event", which is living so long and still doing his job. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving aside whether or not a long recognized career is an "event", WP:BIO1E considers whether there should be an article about the person, the event, or both. It doesn't contemplate no article at all. Station1 (talk)

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George Kamanda

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Promotional biography of a non-notable political adviser and lawyer. Fails all possible notability guidelines. The sources are limited to WP:PRIMARYSOURCE bios ([40]), affiliated sources like his university ([41]), his own writings ([42], [43]), and one source that doesn't even mention him ([44]). WP:BEFORE turns up more of the same but no WP:GNG-qualifying sources. Meanwhile, his books are WP:SELFPUBLISHED (Palmetto Publishing, CreateSpace, others, and his sole academic paper has not been cited once according to Google Scholar, so there are no WP:NBIO SNGs to hook onto here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, per nom and my own search. Newspapers.com has nothing (though that isn't surprising), as does google scholar. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - we are not LinkedIn. Bearian (talk) 01:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: nothing to establish notability. The fellowship is awarded to 16 students to spend couple of weeks n the FASPE Law program FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not appear to be notable. Reads like a resume of a politically involved individual. Could not think of a redirect for this one. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Devdutta Manisha Baji

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. I removed a ton of unsourced content but even what is left is just mentions and a lot of those are WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @CNMall41,
Firstly, thank you for reviewing the page. Every notice is a new learning experience for me, and I have carefully gone through your comments.
- Please forgive me if I have not used the correct Wikipedia technical terms. I usually use generic terminology to convey points, though I do try to follow Wikipedia guidelines as best as I can.
Regarding the Devdutta article: I won't claim he is notable without basis, and though I wrote the article, I’m not approaching it with bias. I would like to present a logical, reference-based defense for my work. Beyond that, you all are the experts, and I trust your decision.

Let me address the points one by one:

1. WP:NEWSORGINDIA

Since I don’t know the subject personally, I cannot confirm whether he or his production houses paid for the articles referenced. I used sources that I found available online. Therefore, I have no comment on their promotional nature. If you have any suggestions or tools to help identify whether a link is paid/promotional, that would be really helpful for my future articles.

2. Removal of Unsourced Data

Yes, he is also a singer. I found his name listed on the music apps I use, and also in Wikipedia film tables where he is credited for singing. However, I remember a previous admin mentioning that a Wikipedia article cannot be used as a reference for another Wikipedia article. So, I didn’t cite them. And since platforms like Spotify or JioSaavn are not accepted as references, I couldn’t use those either. Thank you for cleaning up the unsourced information. It would be great if you could guide me on how to properly cite chartbusters or music credits.

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Defense Based on WP:NMUSICIAN

I’ve reviewed the WP:NMUSICIAN guidelines, and I believe the subject meets the criteria for notability for the following reasons:

a) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 2

This mentions having a single or album on a national chart. His song “Raja Ala” from Pawankhind was a chartbuster. I’m slightly confused because, in India, songs are mostly part of film soundtracks, unlike in Hollywood where albums and movies are more separate. Still, this subject has composed music for high-budget Marathi films, and several of his songs have been popular.

b) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 3

This point seems a bit biased, as it references RIAA certification and Yahoo Music ratings. Indian music directors typically aren't evaluated through such systems. How, then, can Indian subjects qualify under this criterion?

c) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 4

Again, this seems tilted toward Western norms. Indian music directors primarily work in film, and their recognition usually comes through movie soundtracks, not necessarily through concerts. Concerts are secondary.

d) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 5

I believe the subject qualifies here. His music albums have been released under Zee Music, a reputed label with over 10 years in the industry. Zee itself is a well-established brand.

e) WP:MUSICIAN - Awards (e.g., Grammy, Academy)

This also feels biased, as these awards are region-specific. In India, we have our own recognized awards like Filmfare and state-level honors such as Nandi Awards. The subject has received several regional awards and was also nominated for Filmfare Marathi, which I’ve mentioned in the article. Therefore, I believe he satisfies this condition too.

Finally, I’d like to share that I’m just a movie buff. With the rise of OTT platforms, language barriers have started to fade, and I’ve found myself exploring cinema beyond my native language. I initially began writing about Telugu movies, but then I found inspiration in my mentor and brother @Jayanthkumar123, who was actively contributing articles for Telugu cinema. Later, I saw @DareshMohan bro contributing valuable content for Kannada films.

That’s when I realized there’s a real need to work on communities like Marathi, Odia, Punjabi, and Bengaliwhere even native-language contributors are very few. I wanted to help bridge that gap and bring more visibility to regional cinema and artists who truly deserve recognition.

Regarding the issue of paid articles: it’s evident that well-established personalities or large production houses can easily pay to get featured in newspapers and portals—eventually leading to the creation of a Wikipedia article even before the film’s release.

On the other hand, subjects who lack financial resources and media exposure often have their pages deleted for “lack of citations.” This feels like an unfortunate imbalance, and I hope we can find fairer ways to address it.

My final input regarding this article is that the subject is notable. He has composed quality music and has several popular songs that have performed well on music apps within the Marathi industry. He is regarded as one of the top music directors in that space.

My suggestion would be to remove any unsourced content and improve the article in alignment with Wikipedia guidelines. Beyond that, I leave the final decision to the experienced editors—admins, rollbackers @Ab207, and others in the community hierarchy.

Thank you for this opportunity to learn and grow. Every review is a valuable learning experience for me. - Herodyswaroop (talk) 18:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
>His song “Raja Ala” from Pawankhind was a chartbuster

Please give reliable sources for this statement, as it helps to prove notability. Review [[WP:CHARTS]. "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart" is part of WP:NMUSICBIO — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: No notability as singer or musician. As a soundtrack composer, his films doesn't seem notable and sources are unclear. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Itzcuauhtli11

Respecting your opinion and also defending mine — I was a bit shocked by the second statement:

"His films don't seem notable."
Sir, I’m sharing with you Wikipedia's own lists — List of highest-grossing Marathi films. I am neither an editor nor do I know anyone associated with editing that page. The data is clearly visible there.
- Pawankhind – This is the 3rd highest-grossing film ever in the Marathi industry. It also appears under the highest-grossing opening weekend list.
- Subhedar – It is listed under worldwide highest-grossing films by month.
- Firastya – This film won multiple awards, including recognition in Sweden and Pune.
So, we can conclude from Wikipedia itself that two of his films were among the highest grossers in the Marathi film industry.

Coming to the song "Raja Ala":
I searched under WP:Charts, but unfortunately couldn’t find any official music chart specifically for India. However, I’m sharing a few links which I believe may help:
1. https://www.jiosaavn.com/featured/chartbusters-2022-marathi/CAvDksWm1rKvz,QNANKgeg__ "Raja Ala" is listed in the Top 3.
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgVnhNpcFc 55 million views on YouTube.
3. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/marathi/movies/news/pawankhind-new-song-raja-aala-this-foot-tapping-number-featuring-santosh-juvekar-and-chinmay-mandlekar-is-definitely-a-chartbuster/articleshow/89432249.cms Again, you may argue this is paid media — but I’m sharing it for reference.
  I hope I have answered your queries. - Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Herodyswaroop:, please stop with the AI-generated WP:WALLOFTEXT information you keep posting. It is not helpful, especially since these are not policy-based arguments and the sources you are providing are not reliable. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CNMall41 Sorry sir, As my English is bit bad, I am using grammarly to correct the sentence. I would avoid that.

But I am actually going through each and every point in the Wikipedia guidelines and answering them, with utmost care. You asked for chartbuster I have provided the same. You asked for films notability, I have given the same.

Again bit surprising. if List of highest-grossing Marathi films this itself isn't reliable source, then which is ? - Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Itzcuauhtli11

Wikipedia: Notability (music)

"The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc."

Response: I have mentioned notable films where the recordings were featured.

You did not comment on the following criterion: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)."

Response: Zee5 Music is a notable music company with over 10 years of establishment and a significant presence in the industry.

Please guide me if I am not adhering to the Wikipedia guidelines. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

- Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are still using AI to generate responses. Again, please stop. You have made your case for notability and now need to leave others to opine. Posting AI generated walls of text do NOT help your case. Also, note WP:CIR, WP:COI and WP:PAID. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CNMall41 Small correction, Not AI generated content, you can say AI Grammer corrected content, It took one hour to go through each point and get them done.

Wp: paid, Wp:COI, If I really get money in defending this subject, I would really be happy. Joking - Herodyswaroop (talk) 18:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You claim you need an hour to generate the responses yet your edits are done quick on pages with very good competency. This is not my first rodeo. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for not properly betting all of the subject's movies as notable or not.

About the 3 movies you mentioned: Firastya didn't earn major awards and Subhedar only earned ₹18 crore worldwide, which may be notable enough on a regional level, but not on a national or international ones.

Pawankhind may be notable enough on a national or international level, but I'm still not sure. That could probe notability, but it doesn't mean he deserves an article. He also needs significant coverage on independent, reliable sources.

As a singer or musician, he doesn't meet WP:NMUSIC.

As a composer, he doesn't meet any of the criteria for WP:COMPOSER.

About Zee5 Music: What's its "roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable"? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Itzcuauhtli11 @CNMall41 Sir, I am in a big confusion now. If i reply. @CNMall41 accuse me of paid editing. if I don't reply, I am getting lot of confusion. Taking the bet.

Sir, Marathi films are regional films and obviously,they will be highest grossers in same na sir?. How can we expect it should be highest grosser in international level.

Like Sairat movie the top-1 in marathi list, is blockbuster in Marathi,but the same is flop in telugu. And definitely not a international hit. But still it's a top movie for marathi people right?

If that is the case 98% all regional film articles would get rejected in Wiki. Because any country Or region may give a massive hit globally once Or twice.

2. Again,you claimed no awards for Firatsya. But ref clearly shows that,then why the claim of no awards.

Finally respecting @CNMall41sir advice,not dragging the context. It would be great help if sir itself goes through Zee5 label list of independently notable, as the list may go long.

- Herodyswaroop (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak KeepHe appears significant; as a composer, he has contributed to numerous distinguished films. However, the provided references are inadequate and require further support from credible sources. AndySailz (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the !vote AndySailz, but I am hoping you can clarify. If the provided references are inadequate and require further support from credible sources, how is this notable? Are you able to provide those credible sources? "Appear[ing] significant" and being notable are two different things. We need sources showing such. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Is borderline notable, but not seeing it as enough for a stand alone article. Even with his involvement with some films. Which are very particular. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Charles Uchenna Emembolu

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Sources are not WP:RS and that renders this subject ineligible for an article Mekomo (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete sources really do not follow WP:RS, while the trivial coverage is very trivial and non-neutral. Cinder painter (talk) 06:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:V, also WP:BIO. Feels like UPE 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 13:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I might be open to reconsider if it is rewritten to contain just neutral, supported statements, although I don't know there would be much left. Currently it is filled with press-release material such as "...platforms that have empowered thousands through digital literacy". The references mostly fail to support the statements in the article (e.g. number 5 itedgenews contains only the following mention of him: "Co-founded by Charles Uche Emembolu and Kelvin Chikezie, Dexude’s mission is...").--Gronk Oz (talk) 12:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not really notable. Sourcing is also not up to par. With the amount of OR, it looks like it was written by someone close to the subject. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Albert Gunter

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As genuinely cool and entertaining as the bus-jumping incident is, this seems like a clear WP:1E fail. — Moriwen (talk) 00:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - maybe this is the time to Ignore all rules. This was, after all, covered in Time Magazine. — Maile (talk) 01:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree with this as it was very much a well publicised event and it is also such a good story in my opinion Jack Smart (talk) 01:14, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn’t this fall under the “ if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified.” Because of its relation to the much larger tower bridge article it is mentioned in where it is basically only a line there and if you want to learn more you click on him and find out more

I have tried finding out about his time in the war but could not find the records as I didn't have access to the archives because I couldn’t find any that wasn’t they were behind a pay wall Jack Smart (talk) 01:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lester Robert Fudge

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Not notable per WP:BIO1E. The disaster where Mr Fudge provided aid was not particularly notable, and Mr Fudge appears to be otherwise a low-profile private individual. — Moriwen (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete barely any sources and they only cover the one event no coverage exists for anything else about him Scooby453w (talk) 20:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ✗plicit 04:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article simply isn't necessary. Info doesn't need to be anywhere outside of Cross of Valour. Leonstojka (talk) 20:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is Canada’s highest award for bravery, only 20 have been awarded in its 53 year history. If any Canadian should have their own Wikipedia entry, no matter how insignificant the rest of their lives were, its these 20 heroes. Capnwilly (talk) 22:01, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Fudge and the other 19 recipients per Capnwilly. This is the civilian equivalent of the Medal of Honor, and the MOH is an automatic keep. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:27, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and possibly merge citation to Cross of Valour (Canada). Clarityfiend (talk) 22:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Even a Canadian newspaper search is a bust. There is probably coverage that hasn't been digitized, but we can't show notability at this time. Would be better to find sourcing, then create the article, rather than the other way around. He's very likely notable, but no sourcing, so no article. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Im gonna be honest i think the majority of these articles should probably be merged into the page where the medal is. of the 20 people who have gotten it 3 maybe 4 are more then just stubs that cite the medal citation I think a section that describes their actions would be better then having 15 stubby articles Scooby453w (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking the same thing. Make a chart in the article and put their names there. Brief description if needed. Oaktree b (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not look notable. Certainly not enough to a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - let's look at the applicable guideline, Notability.

Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Any biography, item 1 says:

"The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times"

Mr. Fudge won the Cross of Valour (Canada).

We have articles on every Victoria Cross winner yet the majority are know for just one event. The distinction from your typical BIO1E is that they did something big and they received a very high award as a result. The same applies to Mr. Fudge. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 05:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I have identified two Canadian news sources with coverage, The Globe and Mail and Winnipeg Free Press, and added these citations to the article. ResonantDis_tortion 15:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Prenkaj

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Minor diplomat now working as a functionary at the UN. Almost all hits are articles written by the subject, or where he is briefly quoted giving his opinion. I did find one profile of him in local media, but that doesn't amount to passing WP:SIGCOV in general.

His previous job titles are not automatically notable, and it isn't reasonable to suggest (as the opening section does) that he was a member of the Kosovo cabinet by virtue of being a political adviser. Overall, comes across as an inadequate promo page. Leonstojka (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment members of a national cabinet meet WP:NPOL.They appear to have served in the cabinet of Atifete Jahjaga. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Notability is not established. The sources are few and him having jobs in governemnt are not enough for a stand alone article. Reads like a resume too. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:39, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Automatically notable as a member of Kosovo's cabinet. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mukul Arya

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Does not meet GNG and all the sources provided are dead links Uncle Bash007 (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This article claims to have sources but they are all dead links making this article fail GNG Scooby453w (talk) 15:18, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] New references added Hitiste2023 (talk) 13:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] and all of them are obituaries ill stick with my delete vote Scooby453w (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Indian Foreign Service. Instead of deleting. Subject does not seem notable aside from working in government. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:33, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Prateek Pachauri

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Most sources are minor mentions or routine coverage, insufficient for a standalone entry under WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Chronos.Zx (talk) 02:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment As per available references which do not support subject's notability, fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Rajeev Gaur123 (talk) 13:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The subject fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails ACTOR and GNG. Coverage is mentions or unreliable sources. All of the credits are basically appearances in web series. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kane County John Doe (1994)

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Fails WP:VICTIM. This possible murder victim was finally identified 30 years after his body was found, but that's about it. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:24, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, crime does not pass WP:NEVENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:15, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I haven't yet looked for sourcing on this individual, but would like to suggest that merging to Othram#Unidentified remains cases might be a possibility. This case is not yet included in that article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I can see why this one is borderline, but there is enough coverage in neutral media for this to merit a keep. On a subjective level, it also just feels like a good article to have on Wikipedia. Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to a section in Big Water, Utah, the sources in this article are lacking. Scuba 23:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TNT. The entire article is self contradictory. It says that he was unidentified, and then goes on and how he was not identified, which makes no sense. This reads like one of those murder cases, not an encyclopedia article. Ping me if you actually fix this, but underneath is a run of the mill missing person story. Bearian (talk) 01:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bahd Man Niko

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. No significant coverage to show GNG either. CNMall41 (talk) 20:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:MUSICBIO. I don't see any secondary sources to indicate notability. Rift (talk) 03:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P. C. Solanki

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No indication of significance. Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. Refs are mix of interviews and routine annoucements to with the cases. scope_creep^Talk 08:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - lots of mentions, but no in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:14, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy keep: Earlier PROD-nominations were based on failing to find sources, which the re-write shows is objectively untrue. The AfD is now proposed mainly on WP:BIO, WP:RS, and WP:SIGCOV, which again reflect lack of WP:BEFORE and an appeal to policy (without specific discussion) that I address below. For instance, for user User talk:Onel5969, who voted above and originally nom. for PROD, several issues regarding lack of due diligence in PROD/AfD have consistently been raised on their talk page that concern me.

WP:RS—This is trivially untrue. Subject of the article is literally the headline of independent and published news from several news organizations such as The Economics Times, Deccan Chronicle, and The Quint. No significant research is needed to create a profile of the topic from these articles and it's more than a passing mention (or routine announcement) as the subject was the primary advocate of mult-year high-profile trial (see: Asaram for defendents profile and stature). This also satisfies, in my opinion, reliable, independent, and sources criterion of WP:GNG.
WP:SIGCOV—Additional citations within the article, where the subject is not the main topic directly, but critical part of the story support significant coverage, such as the coverage in the Caravan magazine, The Print articles. These may include interviews but are not the basis of the subjects profile. Further, coverage spans several years (2013-2023) indicating WP:SUSTAINED.
WP:BIO—The impact of trial brought by the subject as lead counsel is highly notable (as stated above) and their portrayal in a notable bollywood film (Sirf Ek Bandaa Kaafi Hai). — Komodo (talk) 18:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - in light of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Paid reporting in Indian news organizations, are the article's sources reliable? If so, I'd say "keep". --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 00:30, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@A. B.: There is enough to indicate notability. There are multiple non-NEWSINDIAORG sources that have provided significant coverage to Solanki. It includes this and this. I would also say Keep. Koshuri ^(グ) 04:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@A. B., What are your concerns regarding the reliability of the sourcing ? Sohom (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know there can be problems with Indian news sources. I’m unsure which to trust - that’s why I’ve asked for help. —A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 19:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Hindu The Print and Caravan Magazine would be the most reliable, Anything associated with the Times group is up for debate imo. However, given the subject matter, I doubt money changed hands except maybe to promote the film (I'm neutral about the Deccan Chronicle, tho I've seen bad coverage from themselves at times). Sohom (talk) 21:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It goes a little deeper than the publication itself. Even reliable publications can have articles that fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The best thing to look for is the byline. Anything that is marked "entertainment desk" or "news desk" is likely to not have editorial oversight and possibly paid. This, this and even the Deccan Herald article (not the byline of PTI - indicating churnalism) used in the article are all examples. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, I don't think this article passes muster purely from a WP:BLP1E point of view. If we zoom out for a second and try to look at to the sources, we see that every single source mentions the individual in the context of the much more notable Asaram Bapu case. The man is known for a singular thing, and that is as the attorney of the godman case, something that can be sumarized in the parent article.

The article in it's current state has a total of 4 sentences that are unrelated to his involvement in the case, none of which have been independently reported on (outside of the context of the other case) or are notable if stood on their own merit. As a result, I support deletion, even without considering the reliability of the sources involved (some of which like the economic times can be of dubious reliability at times -- but probably aren't in this context). Sohom (talk) 17:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment, Soham! On reviewing the WP:BLP1E conditions, to my reading, it doesn't appear that all three conditions are met. Specially, for condition three, the event is significant and the subjects role in it is well documented. Even if bulk of the notability comes from that event, and BLP1E is a concern, does it directly merit a deletion? Considering that the initial PROD and AfD nom wasn't even about the specific issue, one can't help but feel that goalposts are being moved. If considering a merge, it is hard to place this topic in Asaram but I am not entirely against it as a seconday outcome. Let me know if my understanding of these guidelines are incomplete. Cheers! — WeWake (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I see another reference has been added which again is tangenital to the mans career rather than the man himself, essentially a passing mention. I don't think you can build a case for WP:BLP1E and didn't think so when I opened the Afd but I'm more sure now than then, that he is non-notable in this instance. scope_creep^Talk 04:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The citation is to support the specific statement re: verifiability. There are existing sources addressing their career. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 06:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I see it inspired a movie. I count that as borderline notability. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:18, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It didnt. It was the trial not the lawyer. I will take a closer look tommorrow. scope_creep^Talk

Keep - Multiple reliable sources provided by Koshuri Sultan prove that notability exists. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 01:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This editor is a WP:SPA. scope_creep^Talk 05:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you don't know what is WP:SPA or you are just being deceptive due to your poor AfD nomination even after your rampant bludgeoning. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 14:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The sources cited in the article are significant coverage and bylined to meet WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 04:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - even with all its problems, the subject is clearly notable by significant coverage. Much as I dislike the way the Indian media grabs attention, this lawyer actually did something notable. Bearian (talk) 03:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stacey Gabriel (actress)

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This article does not meet WP:GNG. There is no evidence of significant, independent coverage from reliable sources to establish a lasting impact in the field. Most references appear to be minor news snippets, social media, or self-published material, which do not qualify as substantial verification under Wikipedia's standards. Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 13:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Your claims are demonstrably false. Reverse this unjustified nomination for deletion. You have claimed multiple falsehoods which are against the Community Guidelines of Wikipedia.

To clarify:

List of nationally and internationally distributed news organizations referenced in the article:

- The Inquirer.net

- The Philippine Star

- ABS-CBN News

- the Manila Bulletin

- Mega magazine

- Philstar.com

- PEP. Ph

All sources explicitly note Stacey Gabriel and her notable activities.

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Meanwhile your claims of "self published" material being used is false. Note an example of it or kindly retract your false claim. If you cannot back up this claim, nor retract it, your submission will be flagged as an abuse of Wikipedia policy.

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"Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition"

Multiple independent sources outline dozens of TV series episodes Stacey participated in, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant.

Are these not notable?

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"social media"

There are no social media references in this article.

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Given no evidence to support this unjustified action, reverse this flagrantly unjustified and deceptive nomination for deletion. Mickfir (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Mickfir (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Dear @Mickfir,

I want to clarify that the nomination was made in good faith, based on a review of the article’s current sourcing and in line with WP:GNG and WP:BIO some of the listed sources are reliable, and this Afd only for english version. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why include false claims that social media and self published material was used as references? There is not a single referenced source that was self published nor any reference to social media. This is a harmful oversight at best and deliberately deceptive at worst.

As for notability... I repeat, dozens of interdependently verified TV Episode performances and multiple national pageants including Miss Universe Philippines as 1st Runner-up. Mickfir (talk) 17:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let me check! WP:AFD is not only for deletion it's a basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia. Many contributors will review it and vote, so there's no need to panic just let the contributors decide.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Let me check" ? You nominated this article for deletion without even checking if the claims you are making against it are true?

Perhaps this article is worth a read: Wikipedia:Don't lie

"basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia"

No. Wikipedia best practice clearly indicates that if an article has areas for improvement, the 'Talk' page should be used to suggest edits, or you make the edits yourself.

Nominating an article for deletion based on false claims is a flagrant abuse of Wikipedia recommended practice. Mickfir (talk) 10:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Sources like ABS-CBN News, The Philippine Star, Manila Bulletin, and others mentioned by Mickfir are reliable. But some, like IMDb, aren't and should be removed. — doclys (❀) 18:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Most of the claims made by @S-Aura about incorrect sourcing were false - made without even checking them first. The IMDb references have been removed as per the advice @Doclys Mickfir (talk) 10:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Miss_Universe_Philippines_2024. Not seeing her being notable. She did not win the pageant and her acting career does not look like enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we have another skim reader. Shame the wiki community is so full of them. May I respectfully remind the administrator assessing this that this very nomination for deletion was made under false pretenses of nonexistent social media and self published citations. There are none.
Multiple independent sources outline over a dozen TV series episodes Stacey participated in with national distribution, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant. This, in addition to a nationally recognized prison ministry program.

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Note to admin: the comments justifying the original nomination for deletion by @S-Aura contain false claims about the citations of the article. Not only does this invalidate the original AfD nomination but the community members that utilize false claims should be cautioned by admins.

Summary:

Claim: "Most references appear to be ... social media, or self-published material,"

Reality: there were never any such citations. All citations are from nationally, and in some cases internationally distributed news organizations.

This AfD discussion was raised under false pretenses and should therefor be retracted. AfD nominations should not be justified by outright falsehoods. Mickfir (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, No personal attacks WP:NPA.

Thankyou! 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 11:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Highlighting that you justified this AfD by making false claims is not a personal attack. Your claims are either correct or false. There is nothing personal. Just accountability. May I ask why you chose to include false information in your AfD nomination? Is not the Wikipedia Community dependent on telling the truth? Wikipedia:Don't lie

Or can you list which citation was from "social media" or "self published"?

There was clearly no such faulty citations. Mickfir (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Khumar Gadimova

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This article does not yet appear to be notable for English Wikipedia Insufficient Sources, and the topic may not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 02:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Khumar Gadimova is a well-known figure in Azerbaijani pop music and is widely recognized by the public in the country. Her artistic career has been covered by numerous reliable and independent sources such as APA, AzərTAc, Musavat, and Report. She has been active in the music industry since the 1990s, performing solo concerts, with her songs broadcast on national television and radio, and has participated in several state-level events.

The article is based on verifiable and independent sources, and the subject clearly meets the notability criteria due to her impact on Azerbaijani culture and public recognition. For these reasons, I oppose the deletion of the article and recommend that it be kept.Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 10:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Being selected as an 'Honored artist' by the Azerbaijan government should be enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. I found sources stating this, but all are in Azerbaijani and I'm not sure if they're reliable enough.[45] [46] — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The official website of the President of the country has reported on this. Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw it. But independent, reliable sources are needed, and that is a primary source, which is not great. Are there others? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.bakupost.az/xumar-qedimovaya-emekdar-artist-oldu https://mia.az/mobil/1075536 https://rublika.az/index.php?newsid=22845 https://etikxeber.az/xumar-q%C9%99dimova-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-oldu/ https://hit.az/az/senet/264643/emekdar-artist-konserte-hazirlasir/ https://musavat.com/ru/mobile/news/bacisi-xumar-qedimova-emekdar-artist-olmasindan-xebersizdir_420423.html https://www.gununsesi.info/xumar-q%C9%99dimovaya-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-adi-verildi/ https://baku.ws/show-business/xumar-qdimovaya-mkdar-artist-ad-verildi-srncam https://azxeber.com/az/emekdar-artist-turkiyede-trend-oldu/maqazin/ https://news24.az/180697-emekdar-artist-sevenlerine-seslendi.html Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are those independent, reliable sources? Linkbombing is not enough for a discussion. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The most reliable source. The country's president's own official website Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Prescott Currier

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He was a World War II cryptography lieutenant, but I see no substantiation for the unsourced claim that he "played a major role in the Cryptanalysis of the Enigma". There are passing mentions, which fail to satisfy WP:GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete (soft) with the hope that eventually, sources might be declassified and show he's notable. Bearian (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable. Go4thProsper (talk) 01:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep In addition to the sources cited in the article, which are not fully utilised, I found more information about him here which provides a list of more sources, and here. If the article is kept I will use these to expand it and add his portrait. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:03, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While the article needs work, references found give evidence of notability: (1) The NSA calls him a "giant" in cryptography; (2) He was one of 4 Americans who went to Bletchley Park to help with decrypting the Enigma. References to both are now in the article. There are likely more. While I may not have time to do the work, @Hawkeye7 has offered to do the work. — ERcheck (talk) 22:31, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, the sources discussed until now show notability. MarioGom (talk) 16:36, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milton Ellenby

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Not enough sources to pass WP:GNG. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Surprising amount of coverage of bridge in newspapers, [47], [48], [49], [50]. Seems to have been active in the 1950s and was still being talked about in newspaper columns in the 1990s. Oaktree b (talk) 00:39, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep tentatively, based upon having all the sources found added to the article. Bearian (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are a lot of results (2000+) in Newspapers.com, from the 1940s to 2020. As well as more sources, there is more info that can be added to the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alinur Velidedeoğlu

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It was deleted a year ago, and not much has changed since then. There’s been the same routine coverage of events, interviews, and mentions. Since he’s an advertising executive, some routine media coverage is to be expected, but direct, in‑depth, quality coverage is still lacking. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Notability is easily satisfied through both the GNG and the SNG about creative artists. The sources are not routine coverage. His advertising work is covered in depth in two academic papers. He was in charge of Turkey's second largest and oldest political party's advertising campaign. The nominator did an AfC review for this article but did not mention at all any concern about "notability" in their review comments, all their concern was about the non-encyclopedic style and NPOV violations. What is the reason for this inconsistency? If there is a notability concern, they should have mentioned in their AfC review. The subject is also the producer of various notable productions, which received coverage in sources like The Hollywood Reporter, which is considered a reliable source. The second deletion discussion was poorly attended, with non-policy-based !votes. RE: "not much has changed since then", please compare the two versions. Also, please see @Fram's comment in the first deletion discussion. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This article was declined by Article for Creation on May 3 for being too promotional in tone. Article was then moved to main space by the creator with the comment The article waited too long in the AfC queue, and I disagree with the feedback it received. Feel free to nominate it for deletion if there are any concerns. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note, but not exactly... I'm not the article's creator. It was created in 2007, and I wasn't active on Wikipedia at the time, and I have no connection to the user who created it. The AfC reviewer and the nominator of this AfD are the same user, and for some reason, they believe not much has changed between this version of the article and this earlier version. Also, they didn't say it was promotional; they said the style violates the Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy. I wasn't sure whether that meant it was too promotional or too defamatory, as there are paragraphs that could be interpreted either way, and all based on reliable sources. Note that the sources that I used are not tabloids, but mainstream Turkish newspapers, columnists, commentators and academic papers. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as not written in a formal, neutral encyclopedic tone. I misspoke in my previous post when I stated the article was declined as being too promotional in tone. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination statement of this AfD incorrectly states that not much has changed since the prior nomination, that's the reason I asked those two versions to be compared. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

comment I declined the speedy deletion, because the current article is substantially different from the one deleted, which consisted of only two of the current paragraphs. The opinion of a AfC reviewer does not constitute a deletion discussion, there is no need to have any improvement after that. No opinion on the notability, but given that it is harder to assert notability for people outside the english language world (and english references) and the efforts of TheJoyfulTentmaker in improving it, I suggest, that it is draftified/userfied if not kept - Nabla (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As I clarified in the 2nd nomination. I do not think that the sources is adequate for passing GNG.--Kadı Message 10:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anzhelika Bielova

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it does not demonstrate notability through independent, reliable sources, offering only trivial or self-published coverage. It also reads like a promotional biography and lacks the depth, neutrality, and verifiability required by Wikipedia standards. Oia-pop (talk) 05:48, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment given that only 1 minute passed between your previous AFD and this one, did you do any check WP:BEFORE? MarioGom (talk) 19:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the significance of the persona is confirmed by independent sources. There is a suspicion that the nominator is a sock of an experienced editor, given the number of edits and indiscriminate nominations for deletion by me alone. Greenhalle (talk) 14:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question: What's the role of the Ukrainian Women's Congress? Is it a quasi-governmental organization? Bearian (talk) 01:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Soun Takeda

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Note tag placed. I think its non-notable. References are extremly poor, some promo. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. Man doing his job. scope_creep^Talk 09:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Please do a WP:JAPANBEFORE before nominating. JP wiki has such this source: Oricon, JP name seach yield this NHK, Mainichi Shimbun and many more on JP GNews. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:37, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bro even got a PBS source lol Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question for @Miminity - Could you please list below which are the three best citations that are: verifiable secondary reliable sources that provide in-depth significant coverage, and are fully-independent from the subject himself? Thanks in advance. Netherzone (talk) 19:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Netherzone: sorry for the late reply: It passes GNG, Despite the (1) PBS source being about a local event, it is still not a WP:MILL news, it is still has a significant coverage about who the author is. (2) This Sankei Sports review. (3) This Nihonbashi Keizai Article

Additionally:

(4) This Sports Hochi source. I exclude paywalled sources. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally I also found (3.5) this Journal by OpenEdition Journals , though in french might have a significant coverage about him Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miminity, Thank you for getting back to me. We differ in our analyses of the sources. I’ve already expressed what I thought about the PBS source (so I won't repeat myself here); the Sankai Sports piece is in a sports publication rather than an art or art history publication – it’s PR for a show at a department store and seems to be a press release not in any way a serious art review of a show at a museum or notable gallery or national gallery. The is promo for a calligraphy performance event, not an art review of his work. The Sports Hochi has the same problem in that it is not a serious art reference in an art publication, it’s about his performance of calligraphy as a kind of sport performed in a store. It’s human interest story, content created for the sports public not serious art criticism or art history. He does not meet WP:SPORTCRIT nor WP:NARTIST at this time. Don’t get me wrong, he seems like a great guy and an interesting calligrapher. I just don’t think the sourcing is what is usually present for a notable artist. Maybe in a few more years but now it is WP:TOOSOON.

This citation is pretty good: Cipango is a peer reviewed publication. I’d count that towards GNG, but not the others. If you can find two more like this I might change my mind. Netherzone (talk) 22:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Miminity Bookmarking WP:JAPANBEFORE! Thank you for putting that together, I think it is excellent. I may make a few suggestions on the talk page if you are open to it? DCsansei (talk) 05:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Miminity, and the subject seems to be a prolific author. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. His work has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. Winning a 2019 "Best Father Award" from Japan Men's Fashion Association (MFU) is not notable. The PBS reference noted above is a review of a local exhibition at the Porch Gallery Ojai. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added an image to the article. See RIKEN Advance Institute for Computational Science (AICS-RIKEN) photo gallery for more pictures. Thanks. Tortillovsky (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The subject of the article fails WP:NARTIST due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Many of the sources in the article seem to be PR or promotional puff pieces. What are needed are serious critical analysis of his work within an art historical framework. It doesn't matter that he's written a lot of books, if his books have not received critical attention he does not meet WP:NAUTHOR. WomanArtistUpdates rationale is very clear, as is their point that PBS is local coverage for a hyper-local event. Netherzone (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Prolific author. Popular calligraphy artist. In practical terms, his work can be seen on the K computer (article available in several languages); image found in Commons. Originally, the article "Soun Takeda" (jp: 武田双雲) was translated from Wikipedia in Japanese. Thanks Tortillovsky (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Get a commissioned work doesn't make you notable. scope_creep^Talk 04:11, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tortillovsky, being a "popular" or a "prolific" is not the same as notability; nor is being "seen" on the decommissioned K supercomputer. Just because an article exists on another language Wikipedia does not mean that they are notable per English Wikipedia criteria. Netherzone (talk) 22:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'll go through the references today. scope_creep^Talk 04:11, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm sorry, but being prolific and/or popular are not amongst the criteria to establish notability. As such, the subject lacks the necessary referencing to pass WP:SIGCOV.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:08, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Miminity has demonstrated that there is enough significant coverage to pass the GNG. DCsansei (talk) 05:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bit suprised at that. Ref 2 doesn't appear to have a byline and appears to constute almost an interview. Ref 3 "See and play" with ticket details has no byline either and appears to be a routine annoucement of the event. I'm curious how these two are significant. scope_creep^Talk 09:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'll take a look at the references tommorrow in detail. scope_creep^Talk 21:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I do not think sourcing establishes notability. Seems to have some sucess, but not for a stand alone article. Could not find a good redirect. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dominik Kočik

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Subject does not appear to be notable upon search. I've found two potential secondary sources (1 & 2) referenced in the current state of the article, but the first thing that struck out to me is that they do not seem to be WP:SIGCOV, so there is no real reason to presume that the subject is notable as of right now. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - in addition to the two sources above, I'm able to find quite a bit of material in Slovak sources (1, 2, 3 4, 5, 6) indicating he's at least regionally notable in Slovakia for his darting abilities. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 08:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – He is a young athlete who just started his career. Can anyone analyze whether or not the sources found by Ser! count towards WP:GNG?⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify - There is nothing on the page that points towards GNG, but Ser! has added a number of new sources. [51] is an interview, so that is N per WP:IV. The others are all SIGCOV, but all focussing on him as a rising hope who is top of his youth class and even won a competition in the Netherlands. Now I don't know if we call darts players athletes, but I think WP:YOUNGATH applies in any case. He clearly made a stir in June 2022, after winning in the Netherlands, but these are youth tournaments, and the press interest in him is localised (although across Slovakia) and also occasioned, and thus primary news reporting. At this point I agree with the press reporting that he looks like a Slovak hopeful for great future success, but that is in the future. Draftify recognises that this may occur. However, there is a risk that the draft will be abandoned before the success occurs, which could be some time away. I would also be happy with a redirect to preserve page history. However, there is not much that is actually usable in the final article in what we have now (again, ther sourcing on the page as it is will not do). Failing agreement on a suitable redirect, I would see no problem with deletion. The article can be written if and when he achieves success in major tournaments and elicits significant secondary coverage. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dabzee discography

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Does not meet GNG and the one reference provided in the article does not cover the subject in depth https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/music/malayalam/thallumaala-song-manavaalan-thug/amp_videoshow/93500395.cms Uncle Bash007 (talk) 09:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Should seem obvious, but just in case, if consensus is reached that this article shouldn't be kept, merge into Dabzee#Discography instead of deletion. it's lio! | talk | work 10:11, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:42, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Let's look at our relevant guideline: this list meets the requirements of WP:NLIST. The subject of the list, Dabzee's music, is notable. About half of the items are either backed up by references or by blue links to existing articles. The other half need refs or blue links to reliable articles and that can be fixed Deletion ≠ cleanup. Finally, if this information were instead merged into Dabzee's main article, it will become too large. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 23:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Scott Robinson

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Violates WP:BLP1E. Should be redirected to List of longest prison sentences. ––FormalDude (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I would very strongly oppose redirecting it there, that is not the kind of list we should be redirecting BLPs.

If there is better sourcing getting the longest prison sentence of all time is notable enough that it IMO invalidates the second prong of BLP1E. So then WP:NCRIMINAL is also a consideration. The sourcing I can find is not great so honestly he probably just fails the WP:GNG. But he does have an extremely generic name so I may be missing stuff. But unless there is more sourcing I failed to find, delete (Not redirect). PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would oppose a redirect because redirecting to a BLP to that kind of list seems bad. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or smerge is as appropriate as the sentence. Bearian (talk) 08:50, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. There is a consensus to keep with the notability guidelines fulfilled and the nomination was also withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) — Benison (Beni · talk) 03:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Alan Levy

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No indication of significance. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 16:54, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No RS that discuss this person are used for sourcing. Source 15 is a RS but doesn't mention this person. I don't see any either, some primary sourcing only. The was at AfD over a decade ago, and still no RS have turned up. I don't think this person is notable. Oaktree b (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The current article is in need of a clean-up and better sourcing, but I think some alternatives to deletion per Wikipedia:ATD are appropriate and I think this nomination is premature. This profile in the Washingtonian demonstrates, at least to me, there is a chance that the subject can meet WP:GNG based on a 40-year legal career at a large public advocacy group that includes arguing in front of SCOTUS. A search on Google Scholar indicates he is published in legal journals at least more than a regular attorney. Google Scholar is the floor, not the ceiling based on his writing in the University of Michigan Journal of Law Reform. In addition, he is mentioned in a number of books at the Internet Archive including books independent of him and Public Citizen. I would also recommend, should we not keep, to !redirect to Public Citizen where the guy has worked for over 40 years. The preface of "weak" is that I am in a space of quantity vs quality at this point with Internet Archive, JSTOR, etc. I am very open to the possibility he is not the subject in enough of these or that the work is not so atypical as to warrant an individual article as a non-attorney.--Mpen320 (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is not coverage. That short article are the real thing that mention him in any detail. There is no other WP:SECONDARY coverage that I can find that is specifically about him. And its nothing like enough. scope_creep^Talk 05:42, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I will go through the reference and look at them in detail in the next couple of days to see what is what. scope_creep^Talk 06:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I have seen a few articles about him from reliable sources that prove notability. One of them in my quick look was the Washingtonian February 3 article "Paul Levy, the Web Bully’s Worst Enemy", which also made me laugh out loud. Collectively regular coverage in Reason and New York Times, it satisfies me. He sounds like an interesting man. He's also got my interest too. Karl Twist (talk) 08:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep inclined to say that he is on this side of GNG. Andre🚐 03:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence free !voting there I see. scope_creep^Talk 16:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Lets look at the references:

Ref 1 [52] That is self-written profile. Not independent.
Ref 2 [53] Secondary source.
Ref 3 [54] Not about him. Its a passing mention.
Ref 4 [55] CV. Not independent.
Ref 5 Non-rs
Ref 6 [56] That is a spam and will need to be removed.
Ref 7 [57] Another passing mention.
Ref 8 [58] Passing mention.
Ref 9 [59] Passing mention.
Ref 10 [60] Not independent.
Ref 11 404
Ref 12 [61] The docket. Non-rs
Ref 13 [62] Not independent.
Ref 14 [63] A short quote from him. Not independent.

The first two blocks of references, 2 non-rs, 5 not-independent, 4 passing mentions, a 404, a spam link and 1 secondary source that reads like a puff piece. This is a WP:BLP. Its states in that policy Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources The sources are atrocious. They are crap. There is no other way to desribe them. scope_creep^Talk 16:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't the Justia RS? It is a primary source and I saw nothing on RSP about Justia being unreliable. Many of the sources corroborating this person's existence are court dockets. And what is wrong with Washingtonian being a secondary source? "Levy, an attorney with the Public Citizen Litigation Group who has represented union dissidents" in the Michigan Law Review articles on JSTOR, "Paul Alan Levy , an attor ney with the Public Citizen Litigation Group in Washington, D.C." on the ABA Journal, his book was cited by the NLRB... Andre🚐 06:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Court dockets don't prove notability. They are records of mandatory attendance and that all you can say about them. They don't confer notability and notability is not inhereted off them. There is nothing wrong with the Washingtonian source as a secondary ref. But it needs more than source to prove a person is notable. This is a WP:BLP. Not a article about some song. WP:THREE is standard here per established consensus (summer before last). 3 secondary sources will do it. scope_creep^Talk 08:27, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

His own work doesn't towards notability unless its been reviewed and published by external reviewers (not social media). So far I've not seen any evidence to contrary that any of his work is notable. scope_creep^Talk 08:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see the dockets (Justia) machine generated is non-rs generally. scope_creep^Talk 08:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, there's enough collectively to make the Keep grade. Looking in Google Newspapers archive the other day, there's some good usable stuff too. I can see that there was a good past attempt to make a decent article here, but it's set up wrong and some parts need to be re-written. That being said, I believe this has the making of a very good article. It just needs work. Because this is a legal-related article, it's a bit harder and for me it's a more involved kind of thing which I wish I had time for. Karl Twist (talk) 06:13, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another policy free keep !vote. Do you have WP:THREE good references that prove its notable. scope_creep^Talk 14:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: In its current form, as I am reading the article, I agree that the sources could be cleaned up and that there is a lot that contributes more to verifiability than significance. That said, the Washingtonian source, combined with sufficient academic and legal analysis of his work available online (for example, by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and other references in the current article), dissuades me from believing it is not noteworthy. Many cases that he has represented (and are cited here) are notable, and while that needs to be discounted for his passing mention, there are many of those examples that do end up adding up. WeWake (talk) 02:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've asked two attorney's on Wikipedia for a view for a clearer consensus. scope_creep^Talk 10:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've spoken to an attorney. He thinks the subject is notable and he gave me a very good reason why he thinks the subject is notable, which has cleared the way for me. I suspect the article will be full of references from obits when the man dies. Time waits for all folk on Wikipedia. Nomination Withdrawn as keep scope_creep^Talk 13:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep:—appreciate the extra fact-finding. I am wondering if you might be inclined to share what you discovered, whether aspects originally missed or not covered in these discussions, that motivated the withdrawal. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the vast majority of sources are reliable sources. A few references can be cut out, but overall the subject has significant coverage. While it's not policy and just my personal opinion, he passes my standards, because he's done enough for the legal community. Bearian (talk) 16:43, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hubertus Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha

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Article is primarily about his parents and grandfather and very little about Hubertus himself beyond genealogical information. I see no reason for notability independent of his ancestry. WP:NOTINHERITED WP:NOTGENEOLOGY D1551D3N7 (talk) 10:14, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.

AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 13:16, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Ernst Leopold Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (his father). The contents of this entire article can be transferred to and summed up in the "Marriage and family" section of the other article I mentioned. Vida0007 (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect per User:Vida0007. Kakurokuna (talk) 20:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.The present prospective petitioner to be restored as Duke of Albany should have his own article and Wikipedia's genealogical content is not a drawback in any sense and there is no reason to thin it just because it's not marked for extension.72.80.84.163 (talk) 16:05, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a form WP:CRYSTALBALL argument you are making. The Duke of Albany title was ended in the Titles Deprivation Act 1917 a whole 44 years before Hubertus was born. You seem to think there's some inherit notability in being "in line" for a title that fundamentally no longer exists and your basis is that it could potentially be restored but there's no sources to support that. D1551D3N7 (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Royal Family article in Debrett's Peerage includes the deprived titles as "suspended" and tracks the heirs and we should do likewise...the law makes provision for heirs to petition to be restored. 72.80.84.163 (talk) 04:12, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't help but note that this is not an argument for preserving this page. Kakurokuna (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Beeing a potential petitoner does not bring relevance. Beeing a petitoner would change that, but this is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Keeping track of who reliabable sources think could be a potential petioner is already covered in the article Duke of Albany, which is the appropriate place. --Theoreticalmawi (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The terms of the Act make clear who the one person at any time entitled to petition is but the deletion of this article might be seen as an excuse to omit mention of it from the Duke of Albany article.72.80.84.163 (talk) 15:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The only claim to fame is nobility. Germany abolished its princely houses over a century ago; those who can trace their lineage back to someone who was once a prince are not princes, and have no nobility to inherit (and in any case, Wikipedia doesn't do notability-by-inheritance). The title Duke of Albany was also abolished more than a century ago. The original abolition allowed for a petition to have it reinstated, but no one has ever done so. In fact no one, in the last century, has ever petitioned for the restoration of any of the titles abolished back in 1917. They are gone. This whole article is unnecessary royal-cruft based on a single source and a fantasy that someone might be restored to something that doesn't exist. Once all this is stripped out, we're left with a guy with 5 half-siblings, an ex and a kid, who manages some property. That's not enough for notability. Elemimele (talk) 13:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Ernst Leopold Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (his father). Subject not notable on their own. Some stuff may be salvaged. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:13, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rhian Sugden

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Cannot find anything about this woman other than the expected nude pictures and tabloid "journalism" detailing incredibly minor events. Does not meet WP:BIO. Previously changed to a redirect for the exact same reason, and nothing has changed since to make her more notable. Nomination for deletion since I simply do not think she's even notable enough for the redirect. CoconutOctopus talk 14:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: Hard to find non-tabloid coverage, this [64] and this [65] helps. The multitude of Daily Mail or Sun coverage shows public knowledge of who she is. should at least be enough for a stub article. Oaktree b (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, this one as well [66] Oaktree b (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep -- there is some decent coverage per @Oaktree b, but it only seems to be about a picture of her at a holocaust memorial, and a random scandal. Searching myself I can find many stories, but only about relatively minor details of her life, because she's a celebrity. She does seem to meet the general notability guideline of having coverage in multiple reliable sources, even if most of it is relatively pointless coverage of random details of her life. And she doesn't fall under "notable for only one event" because while 2 of the stories above not in tabloids are about the holocaust memorial incident, other articles are not about that. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, yes, she doesn't really need a WP article any more than she needs the random newspaper articles on tiny details of her life. But if Wikipedia is a repository of all human knowledge, some of it is going to be kind of pointless knowledge, I guess. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:52, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She was on a TV show in the UK, that likely ads to the notability. Details here [67], here [68], here [69]. Oaktree b (talk) 21:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage in Ireland here [70]. Oaktree b (talk) 21:41, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Holocaust memorial "thing" is mentioned here [71], [72], these certainly all about her, but the event gained enough traction to show scholarly notice. That's something. Oaktree b (talk) 21:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete now !voting as I've reviewed the sources again and don't see significant coverage of the subject's career needed to meet GNG. Nnev66 (talk) 13:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC) Comment I'm leaning delete as the article appears to fail GNG since sources only cover that the subject exchanged questionable texts with a married man and took a selfie at a Holocaust memorial which doesn't seem like significant coverage. I found a few small articles in her hometown newspaper including [73] but I still think it fails WP:BASIC, unless notability is via WP:ENTERTAINER but I don't see a case for this in the sources. ~~I'm wondering if these same sources had different content if I'd see things differently which is why I'm not officially !voting yet~~. Nnev66 (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Dug up a few more [74], [75], [76]. That should be more than enough. Oaktree b (talk) 15:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per additions here, Oaktree b. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 15:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There is no WP:SIGCOV of this individual's career, but rather, a whole lot of tabloid nonsense and a handful of passing mentions in more reliable sources. In addition to the lack of significant coverage to meet WP:GNG, the criteria outlined in WP:ANYBIO and WP:NMODEL are also unmet. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 10:00, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete First AFD result was redirect. I think that is still valid but better to lean towards delete as sources do not say much on what exactly she is notable for. She has some exposure, but that is not the same as notability. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The whole article reads like one big WP:BLPSOURCES violation to me, and the lack of sufficient quality sources presented during the discussion just strengthen that view. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep I've added an interview she did with BBC Manchester as a source and a link to the audio on the Internet Archive. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strictly Ballroom (band) (3rd nomination)

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Hume Peabody (via WP:PROD on 12 May 2025)