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[edit]- Masato Yoshihara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another (among several hundred) GNG and SPORTCRIT failure, having only played 8 matches in the J League system. German lower leagues and Cambodian league aren't notable, and the challenge-cambodia.com page is only a database profile. Geschichte (talk) 15:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Tatsuro Kimura (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another (among several hundred) GNG and SPORTCRIT failure, having only played 7 matches in the J League system. All links in the Japanese Wikipedia are either dead or flagged as bad sites. Geschichte (talk) 15:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Hasn't played enough. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yusuke Suzuki (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously nominated by @Geschichte, but was undeleted per WP:RFUD, saying that as he was a J2 footballer, he was most likely notable. He was a J2 footballer, but he only played 5 league games for Roasso Kumamoto, the rest of his career was spent in lower leagues. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. There is nothing "likely" about notability here. Undistinguished career, no valid sources. Geschichte (talk) 13:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:31, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kei Taniguchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A 17-game carer is some, but not much. It did not make him a well-known Japanese footballer, and there are no sources to sustain a BLP. Geschichte (talk) 07:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – The Japanese article does not provide any significant coverage. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 15:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- 2024 All Japan High School Soccer Tournament prefectural qualifiers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This page is in violation of WP:NOTDATABASE; from the sources and what I could search, I did not find WP:SIGCOV of these prefectural qualifications beyond some stats reporting. Very possible I missed items given the language barrier so open to additional sources, but as it stands this article fails both the sourcing test of WP:GNG and the WP:NOT test of GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:37, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to 2024 All Japan High School Soccer Tournament – As WP:ATD. I know the importance of All-Japan, but the qualifications are just matches between amateur young players. Svartner (talk) 00:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. It should be deleted. ~~ NipponHSS1 (talk) 00:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 18:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect article does not seem to have enough coverage to justify this split for these matches. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Toyota flowers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The flowers don't appear to be documented in scientific literature or plant registries. They seem to be tied to a single Toyota factory's green initiative, with no significant lasting coverage or indication that they were widely adopted, studied, or recognized beyond the context of Toyota's internal landscaping efforts Mooonswimmer 14:07, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: No coverage in Gscholar, this one in Gbooks [1], more like a trivia item than enough for a full article. Oaktree b (talk) 16:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Dodô (footballer, born 1990) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and SPORTCRIT due to his career never getting off the ground, recording mere minutes of play in his many clubs, and lack of significant coverage. Geschichte (talk) 09:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – He was runner-up in the J-League with Gamba Osaka, but I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:13, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It lucks enough media coverage to shows its notability; but can be kept if the user provide sufficient relevant sources for it ... 110 and 135 (talk) 18:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Doda (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and not really anything resembling a claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – I didn't find anything about him even in databases. Svartner (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It lacks sufficient notability and doesn't have enough media coverage. 110 and 135 (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Takuma Nakajima (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted. No trace of notability, only 1 match on J League level. Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:12, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kei Sugimoto (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Playing 16 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and has neither that nor a Japanese Wikipedia page. Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Jiro Hiratsuka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Playing 11 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and has neither. Geschichte (talk) 13:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Masafumi Mizuki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Playing 20 football games in the J League system is not a strong claim to notability. The article would need several pieces of significant and independent coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, and seems to lack that. Geschichte (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Tales of Commons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was a redirect, blown up to article size--but the supplied links are basically all company sources and manuals, and I cannot find any secondary sources either. A redirect to Tales of Mobile is the proper solution. Drmies (talk) 19:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see now that the editor has done the same with Tales of Breaker, with the same problems. Drmies (talk) 19:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- As said earlier, I do not see the need for deletion when the alternative, Tales of Mobile, is empty and mostly bland, offering no informations whatsoever. I followed closely the formats of other Tales games, adding references, links and everything. A lot of game pages (especially for old i-mode games like this) could realistically fit into a main page, Xenosaga Pied Piper could be deleted and just be a passing mention on the main Xenosaga article, BCFFVII could be deleted and just have its content in the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" article. Both of those coexist with one another and with no problems with the dedicated page adding on to what is missing on the other ones. As for links, I do not see the problem when pages like Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage which has no external link except a simple blog, no references, no nothing and yet this page is still allowed to exist despite being less well put together than Tales of Commons which properly source everything and uses different websites rather than just sticking to the same. Leptitgay (talk) 19:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- You'll want to explain how it meets our notability standards, not how its like or unalike other random articles. Sergecross73 msg me 19:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm gonna have to compare it for this reply. Unlike other random articles, it and the other 4 mobile articles were covered by well-known respect and Japanese tech and gaming media like ITmedia, dengeki or Gaming Tech alongside official sources from the parent company. That's already 3 reliable sources. I am sorry but I will once again compare it to Tales Summoner Lineage which has nothing supporting it having its own page.
- https://dengekionline.com/data/news/2005/9/27/b147d1f6198573a00f8c38c4f6b18ca8.html
- https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/spv/0509/27/news100.html
- https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20051122/toc.htm
- I have read the notability rules and this should be enough. I am of course open to other possibilities to improve the articles Leptitgay (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- You need to discuss how this article meets our standards, and it seems to me, from your words, that the more likely way to achieve success is to improve the main article. Stop talking about other articles. Drmies (talk) 19:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- You'll want to explain how it meets our notability standards, not how its like or unalike other random articles. Sergecross73 msg me 19:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. I added some references from the corresponding Japanese article. Bandai Namco has changed its web domain. I couldn't find Tales of Commons on the https://www.bandainamcoent.com/ Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Restore redirect Right now, highly lacking in WP:SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect. It was more suitable as a redirect given its lower sigcov. MimirIsSmart (talk) 02:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Nabi Tajima (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Has been deleted twice through AfD's. As per the last AfD, nothing has changed. I'll quote JFG: "This person's only claim to notability was her advanced age. Her name and age are properly recorded in various tables, such as List of Japanese supercentenarians and List of the verified oldest people. Available sources do not cover her life and deeds in any noteworthy detail, and the article offers nothing more than trivia about other "recordholders", hence WP:NOPAGE applies." Onel5969 TT me 01:20, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. As per previous Afds. WP:NOPAGE and WP:ANYBIO still apply: no substantive content to justify a stand-alone article, all pertinent information, DoB, DoD and age, is found in the List of verified oldest people. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 01:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete -- No new substantive sources since previous deletions. The minibio at the redirect already contains all the essential sourced information about her life. — JFG talk 15:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep If this article doesn't stand as-is, then I don't think most of the other articles about supercentenarians do either. Being a record holder is notable, this article never should've never been deleted. Rylee Amelia (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF applies. Your argument could equally be used as reasons to delete those articles. And exactly which "record" did/does she hold? She was the oldest living person, but that is a title not a record. She was the oldest Asian person ever, but where are the independent sources which recognise such a "record" (i.e. is there a list of such "record holders"?)? And is "Last living person born in the 19th century" a record or a title? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 08:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- It is notable to be regarded as the final verified person to have been born in the 19th century and therefore this article should be preserved 2001:56A:7CFE:3000:C81:C60F:635C:8E64 (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, it's not. It's a footnote, not notability. Onel5969 TT me 16:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- It is notable to be regarded as the final verified person to have been born in the 19th century and therefore this article should be preserved 2001:56A:7CFE:3000:C81:C60F:635C:8E64 (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF applies. Your argument could equally be used as reasons to delete those articles. And exactly which "record" did/does she hold? She was the oldest living person, but that is a title not a record. She was the oldest Asian person ever, but where are the independent sources which recognise such a "record" (i.e. is there a list of such "record holders"?)? And is "Last living person born in the 19th century" a record or a title? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 08:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I also agree it should be kept. Being the world's oldest living person for a period of time, and especially the last surviving person born in the 19th century make her notable. I don't know how many people were born in the 19th century, but only one got to be the last.Blackballnz (talk) 08:29, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We have divided opinion but we need to see arguments based in policy, especially for editors wanting to Keep this article. How much you value the subject isn't relevant, it depends on establishing notability by reliable sources.
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- Keep Article meets WP:BASIC. I suppose one could argue WP:BIO1E, as the subject is primarily notable for being a long-lived individual. However, there is coverage of her over time which I added to the article (although the most significant is at the time of her death), and I agree with Blackballnz that being the last surviving person born in the 19th century adds extra significance. Nnev66 (talk) 15:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kin'unken (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I did my WP:BEFORE and am nominating it for deletion under the grounds of WP:N. It could barely find any sources in Japanese, and none in English. DankPedia (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: What's your assessment of the Japanese sources you found? MarioGom (talk) 22:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Kotaro Shimbara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not quite pass WP:SPORTCRIT and a cursory search did not yield anything useful. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep There is no indication that @Vanderwaalforces did even a cursory WP:BEFORE search in Japanese WP:NOENG or is competent enough in Japanese to do so. Just the first page of Japanese results include a full-length feature in Motorsport Magazine (which while partially an interview passes for notability), Auto Sport coverage of his Honda Racing School scholarship (also in Chinichi Shimbun), another full feature in JSport, along with regular coverage of his race results. DCsansei (talk) 04:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @DCsansei Ah, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Winning a school championship does not count in itself at all, and having sources that either fail WP:INDEPENDENT or WP:SIGCOV do not help too. @JTtheOG thoughts? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely none of the sources DCsansei provided fail WP:INDEPENDENT. You could, at most, class Auto Sport as WP:ROUTINE. MSport1005 (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh no, the publications might not be directly connected to the subject, but those pieces from them clearly are. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
"Those pieces from them clearly are"
isn't a compelling argument. You're gonna need to try harder. MSport1005 (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh no, the publications might not be directly connected to the subject, but those pieces from them clearly are. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- As I mentioned, I only looked at the first page of results. Doing a competent WP:BEFORE is something nominators are expected to do, which you've stated you're unable to do in Japanese. DCsansei (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Unless you both provide clear-cut GNG-sufficient sources to establish notability for the subject, then I am still very confident the subject does not meet the threshold. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely none of the sources DCsansei provided fail WP:INDEPENDENT. You could, at most, class Auto Sport as WP:ROUTINE. MSport1005 (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @DCsansei Ah, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Winning a school championship does not count in itself at all, and having sources that either fail WP:INDEPENDENT or WP:SIGCOV do not help too. @JTtheOG thoughts? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There is no indication that @Vanderwaalforces did even a cursory WP:BEFORE search in Japanese WP:NOENG or is competent enough in Japanese to do so. Just the first page of Japanese results include a full-length feature in Motorsport Magazine (which while partially an interview passes for notability), Auto Sport coverage of his Honda Racing School scholarship (also in Chinichi Shimbun), another full feature in JSport, along with regular coverage of his race results. DCsansei (talk) 04:44, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - This seems like a borderline case from a WP:GNG perspective, although Formula Four drivers are rarely notable. My suspicion is that this needs a thorough WP:BEFORE review from multiple people who can read Japanese to resolve the above dispute. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. What DCsansei said is correct, and I agree with the statement made before
- Thfeeder (talk) 04:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thfeeder I’m sorry, but your !vote is baseless in terms of policy as it applies to notability, which is what I am questioning in the first place. You’re telling me I do not have competence in Japanese but you’re not bringing any source to justify your stance. If you are competent, please bring the sources and let us evaluate, that is what AfD is about, not to caste aspersions indirectly. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify - I am going to mostly agree with HumanBodyPiloter5 here. It may well be borderline, but we are not at GNG on the sourcing presented so far. The reports that he will participate in FIA is routine announcements of the kind that every racer will get. These are not independent of the subject, because the announcement is not independent, regardless of who repeats it. It is technically primary news reporting, and also excluded on that basis. This can't be used to demonstrate notability on its own. If we accepted this then all F4 drivers would be automatically notable, and there is no consensus for that. So what we need are sources that independently cover the subject. It may also be WP:TOOSOON in that he is much more likely to be notable should he win races. Is there a suitable redirect target? If there is no suitable redirect, then I would suggest we draftify this new page (and this is my !vote for now). We have no evidence of notability, but we have at least the possibility that a deep search in Japanese searches will yield more, and also that he may do well and thus see more coverage. Equally, a very real possibility there are no better sources right now. But if the page creator of this new page can find sources, they could submit through AFC when they have been found. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify Seems new to the game and has not received significant coverage. May indeed be WP:TOOSOON. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:00, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For the record, there's no ban on nominating subjects where there might be sourcing in a language you don't read, and no obligation to do a full, in-depth search before nominating an article for deletion. Please focus on the sources, thank you.
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- Delete: Probably too low in the "minor leagues" to gather much attention. I searched for .jp sources, they all appear to be blogs. This site [2], has coverage typical of this, but that's pretty much it. I don't see enough to show notability. Sources above are as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b What do you think about draftifying the contents of this page and creating a redirect (to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship) as suggested by Sirfurboy below? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I continue to believe the GNG threshold is met for this article given the three separate sources I've provided. I'm also disappointed by the comment in the relist suggesting that a competent native-language WP:BEFORE is unnecessary. That would only make Wikipedia's systematic-bias problem worse. That said, if editors don't feel that the subject currently merits his own article, I suggest a merge to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship. DCsansei (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is an epidemic of Relisting going on at AFD these days do to widely different arguments being put forward and a general decline in numbers of editors participating in deletion discussions but I'm going to relist here because otherwise I see No Consensus and I don't think that result would make anyone satisfied especially editors who are voicing support for draftification. A source analysis can be helpful to get a discussion back on track after several weeks.
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- Comment - Source assessment by Sirfurboy - per the relist comment, here is my analysis of the sources we have. Reading the sources deeply, and especially the first two, I believe there may be reason to expect race wins will follow, and thus more publicity, and thus draftification may be in order. I note the merge suggestion by DCsansei, but think that merge there would put undue information on that page. However a redirect to there, preserving this page history in a redirect that can be overwritten should he become notable, is a perfectly good WP:ATD.
- Motorsport - An article about the page subject profiling him and occasioned by the announcement that he will participate in the French F4. Now this is routine coverage of any new driver. They will gain a profile, put out by the team, and published in the appropriate press, when a new driver starts. It stands to reason that they will do this as part of their publicity, but this would only demonstrate notability if, in fact, all drivers are notable. They are not, and that is a consensus view. So what is wrong with the specific source? It is news (primary) and it is publicity put out by the team, so not independent.
- Autosport - News report that he won the racing school Suzuka scholarship. This demonstrates he shows promise, but it is not itself any kind of major race win. Rather it shows that he will get a place as a driver. Where it does not meet GNG is that this is a primary source: it is news reporting of his gaining a scholarship. WP:PRIMARYNEWS has guidance. People are not notable simply for gaining scholarships.
- Chunichi Shimbun - A passing mention. No SIGCOV.
- Jsports - This is an interview, and interviews are not independent and are primary. WP:IV has guidance. The occasion of an interview can be indicative, however. Thus, looking at this one, why is he interviewed? The piece says he
aims to be a champion in the full race for the first time in two years this season.
It is an interview of a hopeful. We could only accept this as in any way indicative of notability if all drivers are automatically notable.
- Motorsport - An article about the page subject profiling him and occasioned by the announcement that he will participate in the French F4. Now this is routine coverage of any new driver. They will gain a profile, put out by the team, and published in the appropriate press, when a new driver starts. It stands to reason that they will do this as part of their publicity, but this would only demonstrate notability if, in fact, all drivers are notable. They are not, and that is a consensus view. So what is wrong with the specific source? It is news (primary) and it is publicity put out by the team, so not independent.
- Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking time to look at the sources yourself. I, of course, support draftifying the article and redirecting the title as suggested as that makes sense. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Draft would not be my choice, given the source analysis above and what I couldn't find... No strong objection if it does go that way. There might be Japanese sources that come up. Oaktree b (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kiyoshi Umegaki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not quite pass WP:SPORTCRIT and a cursory search did not yield anything useful. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. I see some significant coverage from Auto Sport and Chunichi for his win last week. I urge nominator to do a complete search in Japanese before nominating (or leave the nominating of Japanese articles to those who can evaluate Japanese sources). DCsansei (talk) 04:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Again, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Do you mind pointing me to what point in WP:NMOTORSPORT does Umegaki pass? I’d appreciate it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NMOTORSPORT is a broad indicator of what's considered notable. It's not an exhaustive list and shall not be used as a disqualifier. WP:GNG matters. MSport1005 (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- GNG is in fact not met here also. Do you remember what it says about independent reliable sources that covers the subject substantially? These three parameters need to be met for GNG to be satisfied, it isn’t the case here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you're unable to conduct a thorough WP:BEFORE search in Japanese, you're unable to make an early judgement on whether coverage exists. You've stated your case. Now please leave it to others. I'm waiting before casting a !vote for the same reason. MSport1005 (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- GNG is in fact not met here also. Do you remember what it says about independent reliable sources that covers the subject substantially? These three parameters need to be met for GNG to be satisfied, it isn’t the case here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NMOTORSPORT is a broad indicator of what's considered notable. It's not an exhaustive list and shall not be used as a disqualifier. WP:GNG matters. MSport1005 (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Again, I surely I’m not Japanese neither do I speak the language; so, thank you so much for pointing to those sources. I checked them, and the machine translations I used were pretty competent in giving me an English version; they, I mean all the sources your mentioned, do not contribute to adding a substance of notability for the subject. Do you mind pointing me to what point in WP:NMOTORSPORT does Umegaki pass? I’d appreciate it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, leaning delete unless further evidence of notability emerges - Seems like a possible case of WP:ONEEVENT, but I'd need to see evidence of a more thorough Japanese-language WP:BEFORE search before committing to a delete vote. I do, however, find it highly implausible that a driver at this stage of their career would meet the WP:GNG. Neither Formula Four nor Formula Regional are particularly high profile categories (I would personally consider them to be the fifth and sixth tiers of single-seater racing) and drivers who compete in them are rarely notable. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. No indication that a WP:BEFORE search was conducted in Japanese or that the nominator is competent enough in Japanese to do so. What DCsansei said is correct, and I agree with the statement made before. Thfeeder (talk) 04:55, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thfeeder I’m sorry, but your !vote is baseless in terms of policy as it applies to notability, which is what I am questioning in the first place. You’re telling me I do not have competence in Japanese but you’re not bringing any source to justify your stance. If you are competent, please bring the sources and let us evaluate, that is what AfD is about, not to caste aspersions indirectly. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify. May be WP:TOOSOON. Not really notable from the sources in the article. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify per Ramos1990. Does not meet WP:GNG and at this early stage in their career, very unlikely a deep search in Japanese sources would yield anything. However the page is new, as is the career. If there is early success the sources could follow, so draftify or redirect are suitable WP:ATDs. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any more support for ATD?
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- Comment I continue to believe the GNG threshold is met for this article so my !vote is unchanged, and I continue to object to deletion where the nominator has not shown that they've completed a competent native-language WP:BEFORE. That said, if a consensus against keep develops, I suggest considering a merge to 2025 F4 Japanese Championship as an ATD. DCsansei (talk) 05:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- 1992 NHK Trophy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable figure skating competition. I had redirected this article to NHK Trophy, but it was reverted. Recommend deletion or forced redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect I could find nothing significant. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:02, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Sports Kyoushitsu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Other language wiki page has no sources that support notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Longstanding (1961-2017) series broadcasted nationally on NHK. WP:NTVNATL. DCsansei (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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