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[edit]- Chowly (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sourced to press releases (fail WP:ORGIND) and funding and aquisition announcements (fail WP:ORGTRIV). ~ A412 talk! 20:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Namah Pictures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Long list of sources but not a single source which describes about the company and its work. Most of them are just mentions or in the form of press release about acquiring film rights or announcing about films. Hard to find independent neutral coverage about this company to meet notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 14:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, non-notable corp. As the nominator mentioned, I can't find coverage of the organization that meets SIRS of the company. Despite the length of blue-linked films in the article, there are no provisions for NFILM companies that allow for heritability (WP:NOTINHERITED) of the products or productions of a film company that meet notability. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - And salt it. Clearly not notable as sources do not meet WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Spurs Sports & Entertainment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The holding company is not-notable and fails WP:NCORP. The article is primarily content about the San Antonio Spurs, not the holding company, then a WP:SYNTHed-together reporting of the holding company's portfolio. Longhornsg (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - sports teams holding companies often are notable. Doing a before search brings up many hits for the company. Mostly books related to sports management. But I agree, the article should be redone to be less focused on the Spurs. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Some books have had multiple pages dedicated to SS&E, such as these, and they are national authors too rather than local San Antonio coverage.
- https://books.google.com/books?id=C9SbUYGyCvcC&pg=PA335&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgMEAM
- https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transforming_San_Antonio/-ETpCAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&pg=PA180&printsec=frontcover
- https://books.google.com/books?id=gVlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PP3&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiinI7vwMSNAxXTPUQIHcnLDN8Q6AF6BAgNEAM
- https://books.google.com/books?id=ZSziAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=Spurs+Sports+%26+Entertainment&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijo4DawcSNAxWgO0QIHftkCnw4ChDoAXoECAUQAw ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hits yes, but it's WP:ROUTINE coverage, which is what I found in my before. Are the cites in the books WP:SIGCOV of SS&E specifically? Longhornsg (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Boston Basketball Partners (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable holding company, notable only for its legal structure as the ownership entity of the Boston Celtics. Redirect to Boston Celtics as WP:ATD. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE business coverage. Longhornsg (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect - can easily be merged into the Boston Celtics. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- BFC Publications (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable self-publishing company without significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Most references are routine announcements, paid pieces and press releases, or vanity record listings Mooonswimmer 18:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, note that I've removed the obvious fake/sponsored/paid media. Using this to support puffery is pretty deceptive. I was not able to find anything other than paid media, social media posts and PR. There's also a UPDE problem that needs to be resolved; I've left a note on the author's talk page. Sam Kuru (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thermacut (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This company does not appear to meet WP:ORG. Sources present do not provide more than a passing mention of the company name or website, or are press releases from the company itself. Results from Google Books seem to be limited to the website address or notes that the company's involvement in various trade fairs. C679 03:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, promotional/vanity cruft. Jdcooper (talk) 10:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:ORGCRIT - only sources (outside of thermacut.com) are Torch Tech articles on Metalworking News, which is affiliated, or CORPTRIV (acquisitions). "Thermacut bur" is an unrelated technology. Current sources do not establish notability; see source table.
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Bloomberg
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The Fabricator
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JoeWelder
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Thomasnet
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HelloTrade
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✘ No | ||
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Anerdw (talk) 17:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oleg Kalabekov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article may not meet Wikipedia’s WP:GNG as it lacks significant coverage in reliable, the current tone resembles promotional or advertising language, which is contrary to Wikipedia’s WP:NPOV and WP:NOTADVERTISING policies. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 21:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: His invention lack independent coverage. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 04:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. Coverage exists in Russian language. Meets WP:SCHOLAR due to his research and innovations. Kmorsman (talk) 15:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Spinny (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Repost of content previously deleted and salted at Spinny. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment Thank you for bringing this article to AfD. I believe the subject may now meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, as there is significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. It's possible that when earlier versions or submissions were reviewed, such coverage was not yet available, but recent searches (including on Google) show more in-depth and reliable sources. I support the AfD process in this case so that the wider community can evaluate whether the subject meets the notability criteria. I appreciate that this nomination was made in good faith. Afstromen (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Afstromen could you specify which sources you mean? Mrfoogles (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Forbes India, Economic Times, Live Mint, Moneycontrol, Entrepreneur Afstromen (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The sources you provided here are not reliable; they all appear to be promotional material from the same date and on the same topics.1) Spinny raises $283 million [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]2)Spinny has fired about 300 employees[10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18]3)Spinny opens 1,000 acre park [19][20][21][22][23] SachinSwami (talk) 16:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- and what about Forbes India and Entrepreneur source? Afstromen (talk) 17:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also [24] Afstromen (talk) 17:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- No change between same date and same topic.4)Spinny raises $65 million[27][28][29] SachinSwami (talk) 17:29, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @SachinSwami I am agree with your point but can you share your review on Forbes India, Entrepreneur and other sources i mentioned in this discussion. Also [30][31]
- [32] Afstromen (talk) 17:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- All the sources are from the same date and same topic.5)Spinny Acquires Scouto[33][34][35][36][37][38] SachinSwami (talk) 17:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- You are focusing mainly on the sources that were published on the same date, but you are ignoring other reliable and high-quality sources. Afstromen (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- All the sources are from the same date and same topic.5)Spinny Acquires Scouto[33][34][35][36][37][38] SachinSwami (talk) 17:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- and what about Forbes India and Entrepreneur source? Afstromen (talk) 17:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The sources you provided here are not reliable; they all appear to be promotional material from the same date and on the same topics.1) Spinny raises $283 million [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]2)Spinny has fired about 300 employees[10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18]3)Spinny opens 1,000 acre park [19][20][21][22][23] SachinSwami (talk) 16:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Forbes India, Economic Times, Live Mint, Moneycontrol, Entrepreneur Afstromen (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: This company is highly suspicious for COI and it looks like Covert advertisement. Check the previous deletion history at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinny B-Factor 16:18, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: All the sources are from the same date and on the same topic, appearing entirely promotional.*:SachinSwami (talk) 17:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The user seems very interested in this page; I suspect a conflict of interest (COI). SachinSwami (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well I am interested in discussing the sources. and I have nothing to do with COI. Afstromen (talk) 18:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is it worth discussing promotional sources? 38 sources were shown, all appearing like advertisements. I can provide many more sources from the same date and same topic. SachinSwami (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just to clarify a few things, and after this I’ll leave it here.
- [39] – This is a detailed piece that gives significant coverage to the company. It wasn’t published on the same date as the others, so I’m not sure why it's being grouped that way. It clearly supports notability under GNG.
- [40] – This is from India Today, which is both reliable and independent.
- [41] – An exclusive from Forbes India should count as independent and non-trivial coverage.
- [42] – This is another solid source from Deccan Chronicle that adds to the overall picture. Afstromen (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is it worth discussing promotional sources? 38 sources were shown, all appearing like advertisements. I can provide many more sources from the same date and same topic. SachinSwami (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well I am interested in discussing the sources. and I have nothing to do with COI. Afstromen (talk) 18:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The user seems very interested in this page; I suspect a conflict of interest (COI). SachinSwami (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Bitcoin Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article lacks significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to establish notability under WP:GNG. AndesExplorer (talk) 15:47, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Sparrow Night (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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News Tower appears to be notable, but this studio is not notable. A merge to the game seems apt, though it would become a problem if the studio released more than one game. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:22, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge/redirect per nom, textbook case for WP:NOTINHERITED. IgelRM (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to News Tower, not independently notable. ~ A412 talk! 23:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- VFairs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I draftified this because the original version was purely based on press releases. It was "improved" with other sources, but when the first source gives a 404 ([43]), as does the WSJ one[44], and I see a source like this one, I don't think it is worth keeping the article or the editor involved (note both the names of the writers and the ISBN):
Smith, John; Doe, Jane (2023). "Key Players in Virtual Event Platforms". The Evolution of Event Technology. Tech Press. pp. 112–115. ISBN 978-0123456789.
And then we have actual, working sources that don't even mention VFairs[45] Fram (talk) 07:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Nooter/Eriksen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage per WP:CORP. SL93 (talk) 02:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Mornflake (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete – The article reads more like a promotional piece than an encyclopedic entry. It provides minimal historical or critical context and instead focuses on listing products in a commercial tone. The references cited are either passing mentions or are not independent and reliable secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject. There is no evidence that Mornflake has received substantial attention in independent publications to meet WP:GNG or WP:CORP. In its current form, the article fails to justify its inclusion on Wikipedia. Unless substantial independent sourcing is found, deletion is appropriate.
- I have transcluded and formatted this AfD discussion initiated by User:GlenluceRoadLoser. I have no opinion at this time. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Norman, Paul (2016-08-12). "Mornflake Go! high protein porridge review". Cycling Weekly. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The review notes: "The Mornflake Go! high protein porridge is aimed at the physically active who want to get a protein boost with their breakfast porridge. It’s made of oat flakes supplemented with 12% soya protein. This ups its protein content to 21% from around 12% for standard porridge oats. So when made up with milk a serving gives you 14 grams of protein along with 26g of carbs – almost as much as many recovery bars and around 30% of the reference protein intake for an average adult. Being made with soya protein, Go! Is suitable for vegetarians too."
- Howle, Nigel (2025-05-12). "Morning Foods: 350 years of a family food business". Cheshire Life. Newsquest. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The article notes: "Morning Foods, best known by its brand name Mornflake, has been a part of the fabric of life in Cheshire since miller William Lea set up business in the village of Swettenham in the 17th century. ... Mornflake’s story is one of innovation and service. It has ridden a rollercoaster of breakfast food fads and trends and now stands strong as a great British brand exporting to 80 countries."
- Price, Richard; Saunders, Ethan (2025-02-10). "Cereal firm marks 350 years of making breakfasts". BBC. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The article notes: "Breakfast cereal firm Mornflake is planning a range of initiatives to celebrate its 350th anniversary. The company, based in Crewe, Cheshire, is a family-run business dating back to 1675 and currently employing more than 300 people. ... The company was founded by William Lea, who began milling oats at Swettenham Mill, 10 miles away from its current headquarters, just nine years after the Great Fire of London. It is now run by John Lea, the fifteenth generation of his family to oversee the business."
- "Mornflake". CNBC. 2014-11-03. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The article notes: "Since 1675, 15 generations have succeeded William Lea to grow this business from its humble milling roots in Cheshire, England, to today’s company, which was founded in the 1940s, employs 370 people and reported a turnover of £146 million in 2014. Mornflake produces a range of oat based products including muesli, granola and porridge, and exports all over the world."
- Gill, Oliver; Woolfson, Daniel; Boland, Hannah (2023-01-21). "Waitrose pulls Mornflake porridge from its shelves after 50 years". The Daily Telegraph. EBSCOhost 8Q3184878332. ProQuest 2767528704. Archived from the original on 2025-04-18. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The article notes: "Waitrose has withdrawn a porridge brand made by one of Britain's oldest companies, as the upmarket supermarket reduces the number of products on its shelves amid the cost of living crisis. ... Cheshire-based Mornflake was founded by Philip Lea and is still family-owned 15 generations later. It claims to be the country's fourth oldest company."
- Callan, Scott (2020-09-08). "Great British Inspiration Mornflake goes live on TV". Cheshire Independent. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The aritcle notes: "Millions of viewers are waking up to Mornflake as part of a national TV advertising campaign celebrating the food producer’s historic roots in Cheshire and expertise as millers. ITV adverts, running throughout September, feature three 20-second cinematic film clips telling the story of how the family firm, the fourth oldest in the country, grows and crafts oat-based cereal products loved by consumers worldwide."
- Clay, Xanthe (2023-01-28). "I tried 22 granolas to find the best value for money – here's my verdict". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2024-06-21. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
The article notes: "Contains lots of nice-looking things including raisins and pumpkin seeds but the few pale clumps there are aren’t crunchy; it’s more of a muesli texture. Not sweet, with a slightly bitter aftertaste."
- Hurley, Paul (2019). A-Z of Crewe: Places-People-History. Stroud: Amberley Publishing. ISBN 978-1-4456-9507-5. Retrieved 2025-05-27 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "Here we have a company that has existed in Crewe for many years. In fact fourteen generations of the Lea family have been milling oats in Cheshire since 1675. Morning Foods is one of the oldest companies in Great Britain and is still in the same family. The current managing director is John Lea, and Mornflake is a subsidiary. The Mornflake brand was introduced by the Lea family in 1942 during the dark days of the Second World War. Now grain from all over the UK is used in their products, and they are, as well as in the UK, exported across the world."
- Norman, Paul (2016-08-12). "Mornflake Go! high protein porridge review". Cycling Weekly. Archived from the original on 2025-05-27. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
- The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says,
If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page.
Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says,Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome.
Cunard (talk) 07:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – While Mornflake may be a long-standing brand, the article does not meet the threshold of notability as defined by Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations. The argument to "keep" relies on sources that, when examined, fail to demonstrate significant independent coverage beyond passing mentions, routine business reporting, or product reviews. Let's review the sources cited in the "keep" rationale:
- Cycling Weekly (2016) – This is a product review of "Mornflake Go!," not in-depth reporting about the company. Reviews of individual consumer products do not establish notability for the brand as a whole. See WP:ROUTINE and WP:NOTCATALOG.
- Cheshire Life (2025) – A regional lifestyle piece focused on a company anniversary. While it adds local historical color, this type of coverage is largely promotional and lacks the depth and independence required by WP:SIGCOV.
- BBC (2025) – A short, routine write-up about the company marking 350 years. While the BBC is a reliable source, the article does not offer deep critical analysis or sustained coverage beyond the milestone event. It's closer to a press release in tone.
- CNBC (2014) – This article contradicts other sources on the company’s founding date and again repeats uncritical corporate claims. It does not provide the kind of analytical depth or independent investigation that demonstrates notability.
- Daily Telegraph (2023) – The article discusses Waitrose delisting Mornflake among other brands as part of a broader strategy. Mornflake is mentioned, but the focus is on Waitrose. This is a passing mention at best, per WP:TRIVIAL.
- Cheshire Independent (2020) – Merely notes a paid television advertisement campaign. Coverage of paid media buys does not confer notability, as it can be purchased by any entity with a marketing budget. See WP:NOTPROMO.
- Daily Telegraph (2023) – Another product review, this time of granola. Reviews, especially when the product is not the main focus, are insufficient to establish notability.
- A-Z of Crewe (2019) – A local-interest book with very limited distribution and factual inconsistencies (such as conflicting founding dates) further weakens the case.
- Moreover, the article contains a list of products, which reads like a brand catalogue, violating WP:NOTDIR and suggesting a lack of encyclopedic tone. The presence of a family-run business, longevity, and a presence in local or trade publications do not alone meet the standard for inclusion in Wikipedia.
- In conclusion, the Mornflake article lacks significant and independent coverage that goes beyond routine mentions, press-like features, or product reviews.
- It fails to meet the criteria at WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Recommend deletion. GlenluceRoadLoser (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says,
- Motherhood Hospitals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A straightforward promotion of an IVF clinic and doesn't meet the WP:NHOSPITAL guidelines. Charlie (talk) 04:06, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Article is promotional and the subject does not appear notable. MrTaxes (talk) 06:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete The article is completely promotional and non-notable.Almandavi (talk) 06:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Fails WP:NCORP. 95.134.245.233 (talk) 02:06, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Shakily sourced controversy article; creating editor was blocked from editing Bagong Henerasyon (along with everyone else for now) for adding undue weight and poor Reddit-based blog sourcing about a minor controversy involving that organization, so they're taking their grievances to any other article related to BH they can find and creating what reads here as an unbalanced attack page (originally titled DV Boer Scam) against the organization using this company's issues to COATRACK about BH and related organizations, along with Roberto Gerard Nazal Jr.. Nathannah • 📮 23:16, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: For what it's worth (which isn't much), it would appear that DV Boer itself has no article — just this one about the controversy surrounding it. (Granted, it probably isn't impossible for an otherwise non-notable company to still have notable controversies; I offer no opinion as to whether that is the case here.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:50, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I did take that in mind in nominating this; if there was a company article to redirect to I would not send this here, but straight off it's just an immediate attack with no context outside 'company bad', along with them trying to shove their view of BH anywhere they can. Nathannah • 📮 03:04, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I cannot find any information about the company beyond its probably links to the Members Church of God International by MCGI Exiters group. While personally I could sympathize their cause, it remains a fringe movement which have not or will probably not be picked up by the mainstream media outlets which would have helped establish WP:SIGCOV. However, alas Wikipedia ultimately not a place to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS Hariboneagle927 (talk) 05:26, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I did take that in mind in nominating this; if there was a company article to redirect to I would not send this here, but straight off it's just an immediate attack with no context outside 'company bad', along with them trying to shove their view of BH anywhere they can. Nathannah • 📮 03:04, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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I removed a bunch of clearly promotional PR fluff, and really this article fails to pass any WP:GNG requirements for a company. ZimZalaBim talk 22:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - very much a promotional article, even with the promotional garbage cleaned up, it still is not worthy of being on Wikipedia. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 21:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Next Management (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable modeling agency. Simply a laundry list of clients. Mostly unsourced, and the sources that do appear are simply announcements or basic coverage of a new client. No WP:SIGCOV indicating the agency is notable for any other reason. ZimZalaBim talk 12:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete No independent RS which meet WP:ORGCRIT. Tenshi! (Talk page) 14:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep meets WP:GNG. Plenty of coverage: [46], [47], [48]. 95.134.245.233 (talk) 02:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Coverage on this company is limited to recycled press releases and advertorials (notice the article titles containing terms like "motivating story", "heartening story" and "intriguing story" as well as the lack of a byline). Falls well short of the sourcing standards expected at WP:NCORP. Yuvaank (talk) 13:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The article has more significant coverage demonstrating notability than actual content, hence, deletion is not warranted at this time. Additionally this is an old company established 32 years ago. Passes WP:NCORP. B-Factor 16:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for corporations, as explained in WP:NCORP and WP:ORGCRIT. I find it rather concerning that an article like this was accepted in AfC. Charlie (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Easily passes WP:GNG, this nomination borders on the frivolous. CNBC? Check. Arabian Business? Check. The National;Emirates 24/7; Khaleej Times all national newspapers? Check. It's not even WP:BEFORE, it's staring you in the face, right there. The article is scrappy, but deletion as eny fule no, is not cleanup. The company is notable. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing your perspective and it has already been discussed at RS Noticeboard. Kindly refrain from continuing this line of argument in a condescending tone, as it may be perceived as disruptive. Charlie (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- There was no consensus in that discussion, in which I note I was an enthusiastic participant, to deprecate UAE media or to treat them as generally unreliable. My line of argument, which I will feel perfectly free to continue to pursue, is that these are all RS, we clearly and unarguably pass WP:GNG and this nomination is, in that case, incorrect. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep SIGCOV, reliable secondary sources. ORG has won awards, boosting notability. As Alexander above has previously mentioned, the sources are reliable and secondary. jolielover♥talk 06:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom, this is failed to meet WP:NCORP. Unable to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. The references are just passing mentions and announcements by the company. Bakhtar40 (talk) 10:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- K-ID (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources consist of funding reports and product launch announcements. ~ A412 talk! 20:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- I have removed the broken links as well the content to meet WP:NCORP.~~--Kinda89b (talk) 11:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Smoking Gun Interactive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed PROD. Appears to fail WP:NCORP. Sources mostly relate to Age of Empires: Castle Siege, so I suggest redirect or merge there. IgelRM (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Not mostly. Only three (2, 3, and 4) out of the six sources in article Smoking Gun Interactive relate to Age of Empires: Castle Siege. And the nominator is actually proposing a merger, not a deletion. This should go through the Wikipedia:Merging process, not the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion process. --Neo-Jay (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, but it's a bit harder to tell as not a single reference link works. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 02:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. This does appear to exist, but it's simply WP:TOOSOON. Also note apparently there was a Bosnian Air Kosova that operated briefly in 2000. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Written as a WP:PROMO, there is no evidence of notability and passing WP:CORP. Only things that show up are a marketing strategy, and nothing about the company. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 16:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Marketing buzz. Google search for
"buzz marketing" kelowna
reveals CORPTRIV (directory pages, lists of marketing companies, etc), not SIGCOV. Although the page has existed since 2005, it was a redirect to various pages until a 14 May edit; re-redirectifying it is probably the best approach. Anerdw (talk) 16:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Marketing buzz. Google search for
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- Redirect - while totally and blatantly spam, this is a useful search term. Bearian (talk) 04:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect I agree the redirect should be reinstated and the WP:PROMO article removed. --hroest 17:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Not notable. Almost all sources are self published, & I can't find anything better. TheLongTone (talk) 13:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Edited! Please let me know if you want to add further sources. ChristosTrap (talk) 14:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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I was originally motivated to create this article since I am a fan of its content. Looking back on it, it is mostly poor sources or interviews or short coverage. ―Howard • 🌽33 11:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: First four sources (although first two of them short) seem to meet SigCov. They can't all be non-RS. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I agree, there are several independent WP:RS that discuss the subject in depth including the Vancouver Sun. --hroest 17:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Z
- Keep per above. This is a good source. 82.117.28.137 (talk) 17:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Certinal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are press releases and primary sources. Fails WP:NCORP. All available sources from before search are not WP:RS Mekomo (talk) 06:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nom. Did a WP:BEFORE and can't find anything, nor for parent Zycus. Fails WP:NCORP. Creator has a long history of poor articles being challenged, with multiple speedy deletes and abandoned drafts. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Company which only seems to have received trivial coverage, failing WP:ORG. Some references are written like press releases. Article mainly created and maintained by two WP:SPA editors (2013, 2022).C679 07:56, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Btw the company is currently in liquidation. FromCzech (talk) 12:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to ZF Friedrichshafen (WP:ATD). 82.117.28.137 (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Non-notable cabin manufacturer. Cannot find WP:RSs. Current sources are WP:ROTM and not sufficient to meet WP:NCORP. Created by suspicious (likely paid) editor account that for all intents and purposes is WP:SPA, meaning there would be a WP:COI so the page needs to clearly meet WP:N, which is does not. Cabrils (talk) 02:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - obvious non notable paid article. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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None of the articles are about the organization, just mentions. Mostly WP:ROTM stuff about events they participated in. (to be fair, please review this version from before I removed some WP:NEWSORGINDIA content). 🄻🄰 15:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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The article appears to not have any secondary sourcing, and the sources on the dewiki article, as well as on Google, are mostly routine announcements and press releases, in addition of use of the company's website. It would be helpful of more secondary sourcing be found, but I feel that this falls short of WP:NCORP. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 14:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- weak delete there is coverage in reliable sources, such as scientific journals [49] and industry specific publications [50] [51] but not really a ton of it. Coverage in a scientific journal may indicate notability but it reads like a press release, furthermore it also seems they are sponsoring a prize [52] in the same journal and thus coverage may not be fully independent. --hroest 16:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Anton Paar is a relatively large instrument manufacturer (top 25 in 2016 [53]). I agree the article needs to be updated, but I expect that additional sources could be found. Some of its history is covered in more depth in industry magazines [54]. I would like to see more independent sources found for a stronger keep vote though. Searching in German/Austrian sources could be more fruitful. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:16, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- LiveLike VR (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article is overly promotional, and the article creator seems to have a undisclosed WP:COI with the subject. Almost all of the article's references are 404 pages, and upon a quick search, the subject does not seem to be notable per WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Likely written entirely or partly using generative AI. Evidence: links are 404s despite the article being written today, access dates are all 2024-3-20 despite the article being written today, searching the source titles in quotes yields nothing, nothing is archived. Anerdw (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Sources 1, 5, 7 and 10 don't exist at the links given. I find nothing else about this enterprise. Likely Hoax as explained. Oaktree b (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, a PR item seems to confirm it existed [55], but the article as now sourced appears to be using made-up sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 18:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. My guess is that the non-existent references are hallucinations by an LLM. Madeleine (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete not notable media coverage and failing WP:GNG. J. P. Fridrich (talk) 11:57, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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I stumbled upon this article after looking at the LiveLike VR article that was nominated for deletion. Three sources are given in the article, one of which is a press release, and another doesn't exist at all. Fails WP:NCORP. Madeleine (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - I'm sure this can fall under WP:PROMO as well. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep; widespread coverage. // Gargaj (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, sourced to press releases and local papers that fail WP:AUD. ~ A412 talk! 22:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom
- Pdubs.94 (talk) 16:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom mostly due to WP:AUD
- Czarking0 (talk) 02:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. All I see in the article and on Google are press-releases. Suitskvarts (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep meets WP:GNG. In my proper WP:BEFORE, I found additional references such as in-depth coverage in Denver Business Journal ([56]) and Washington City Paper ([57]). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.39.21 (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Neither of these sources meets WP:AUD. ~ A412 talk! 23:17, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY and passes WP:GNG - coverage has been found. 95.134.245.233 (talk) 02:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- All cited articles are from city or state-level newspapers or magazines. Easy WP:GNG pass. 95.134.245.233 (talk) 02:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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non-notable company that apparently has a lot of money. everything is interviews or press releases. maybe too soon, maybe just never notable. but either way, it's not notable as it stands. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep (as article creator); company has significant coverage in several articles in VentureBeat (WP:VENTUREBEAT) and Fortune, and therefore has significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. The articles in VentureBeat particularly are far more than just press releases. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 22:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Venture Crypto is questionable at best but it's basically just a rehashed interview. Fortune is also pretty terrible for the same reasons and it's just a press release without saying as much. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant that in reverse, Fortune is the interview, Venture Crypto is basically a PR/interview rehashed. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:VENTUREBEAT is listed as reliable at WP:RSP without exceptions. Has there been some discussion that they are unreliable on crypto news? The articles themselves are in-depth and technical, far more than just rehashed press releases. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 22:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant that in reverse, Fortune is the interview, Venture Crypto is basically a PR/interview rehashed. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Venture Crypto is questionable at best but it's basically just a rehashed interview. Fortune is also pretty terrible for the same reasons and it's just a press release without saying as much. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete this is a propaganda piece for a company with no notable achievement that lives of social media hype. Their biggest achievement is a fine-tune of openweight models (Hermes) that barely improves the benchmark scores and has no community relevance outside of their social media circles. Sumosacerdote (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources are either based on company announcements (fail WP:ORGIND) or funding and launch announcements (fail WP:ORGTRIV). ~ A412 talk! 22:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. I found this article that is not included in the references right now. Also this one. gidonb (talk) 22:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, repeatedely declined at draft. Fail of WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND, WP:SIRS. scope_creepTalk 19:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:NCORP. Madeleine (talk) 21:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dear editors, I’ve revamped the article with solid reliable sources. Added independent coverage from *Corriere della Sera* (12 Mar 2024) and *Il Sole 24 Ore* (7 Oct 2023). Promotional wording removed; text now neutral and dated (“As of 22 May 2025”). Primary docs appear only to back data already analysed by those papers. All refs use `{{cite web}}` with access-date 22 May 2025; no bare URLs. Please review before any deletion—I’m happy to refine further. Happy to fix any remaining issues. Thanks a lot! Darnathiss (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Does not meet NCORP due to lack of in-depth, independent articles. Example of WP:REFBOMB as many of these sources are not about the company but refrigerants it uses that have existed for a while. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 00:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dear editors, I’ve revamped the article with solid reliable sources. Added independent coverage from *Corriere della Sera* (12 Mar 2024) and *Il Sole 24 Ore* (7 Oct 2023). Promotional wording removed; text now neutral and dated (“As of 22 May 2025”). Primary docs appear only to back data already analysed by those papers. All refs use `{{cite web}}` with access-date 22 May 2025; no bare URLs. Please review before any deletion—I’m happy to refine further. Happy to fix any remaining issues. Thanks a lot! Darnathiss (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Sleek Flow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is about a startup that fails to meet the relevant notability guidelines (WP:NCORP). There aren't sources that discusses the subject in depth, and the sources are mostly sponsored, routine announcements of raisings etc..., and talk about the founder other than the business itself. Also note that this source, while it meets WP:SIGCOV, it might also be sponsored by the way. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 15:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Sources fail WP:ORGCRIT, including the one listed in Hotelier which is unbylined and likely churnalism or sponsored. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Although the company is not very old, but it has garnered significant press in several reputable sources. Complies with WP:NCORP. SailabK (talk) 03:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Gjika Amplification (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Minor, non-notable amp maker, promotional article. Coverage fails WP:CORPTRIV. The closest thing to significant coverage is a reverb.com article that's just a few paragraphs in a list, and it's an e-commerce site anyway. The article is highly promotional in content - and probably purpose. The edit history is a years-long list of single-purpose IPs loading up on POV material, only to be reverted (and then re-adding it). Mbinebri (talk) 11:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also note edits like this, in which the IP puts this company's entry at the top of a list that's otherwise alphabetical. It's silly and small, but clearly the goal here is promotion. Mbinebri (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Ugh, this isn't a "company," this is one guy making amps. We'd have to have some very strong references for this to clear WP:ORG, and those aren't there. It's hard not to think that all those IP edits are Gjika himself from whatever city he happens to be in at the time. Ravenswing 15:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Promotional COI issue by various IPs. Pretty much a promotional article. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The flagging for deletion of the Gjika Amplification Wikipedia article is misguided. Gjika Amplification is an established boutique guitar amplifier company with a clear and verifiable history dating back to the 1980s, founded by Bob Gjika. Gjika amplifiers have been used by notable artists such as Shaun Lane, and Bob Gjika's pioneering contributions to the boutique amplifier industry are widely acknowledged.
- Deleting this article would not only erase a piece of this niche industry's history but also disrespect the significant contributions of Bob Gjika. The article is not a mere advertisement; it is a historical account of an important amplifier designer and builder, with its information supported by citations from reputable sources like Guitar Player Magazine and Premier Guitar. This article meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability and should be retained. Tubesfordays (talk) 22:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC) — Tubesfordays (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Unfortunately, according to Wikipedia's notability guidelines, a subject requires substantial coverage in reliable news sources to qualify. The fact that certain musicians have used it does not help eligibility. Since the company has been around for a long time, there may be older coverage available—if you can locate any, please feel free to share the details for review. Mysecretgarden (talk) 01:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – The company does not have enough news coverage. The Reverb article is just about the only good coverage and is not enough. Mysecretgarden (talk) 01:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- == Keep Gjika Amplification – Notability Justification ==
- Bob Gjika and Gjika Amplification meet Wikipedia’s notability criteria through multiple independent, reliable sources and recognition by notable musicians.
- === References demonstrating notability and influence ===
- Dave Hunter, respected gear journalist, highlights Gjika in his "Boutique Amp Guide" on Reverb.com, noting work with Eric Johnson and Shawn Lane:
- "Bob Gjika has worked with Eric Johnson, but might be best known for the scorching single-ended EL34-based amp that the late and largely underappreciated fusion virtuoso Shawn Lane used on his ''Powers Of Ten'' album."
- (Reverb.com, 2016)
- [https://reverb.com/news/daves-corner-boutique-amp-guide-part-viii https://reverb.com/news/daves-corner-boutique-amp-guide-part-viii]
- Shawn Lane praised the Gjika Gold amp in a 1992 ''Guitar Player'' magazine interview:
- "It's class-A power, all-tube, and just one of the most amazing amplifiers I've ever heard. It has a harmonic richness that really responds to a certain kind of touch."
- Equipboard lists the Bob Gjika 10^n prototype in Shawn Lane’s rig:
- "Shawn Lane used the Bob Gjika 10 n Prototype amplifier, a custom-built piece created specifically for him by Bob Gjika... now being recreated for public sale."
- [https://equipboard.com/pros/shawn-lane https://equipboard.com/pros/shawn-lane]
- Salvadore Poe (Paul DiBartolo) credited Gjika amps in a 2022 interview:
- "The amp on that record was a custom-made amp that I had built for me by Bob Gjika. I only used it for that record."
- (Vinyl Writer Music, 2022)
- [https://vinylwritermusic.wordpress.com/2022/01/27/an-interview-with-salvadore-poe-formally-known-as-paul-dibartolo-of-spread-eagle https://vinylwritermusic.wordpress.com/2022/01/27/an-interview-with-salvadore-poe-formally-known-as-paul-dibartolo-of-spread-eagle]
- Online Lead Guitar confirms Gjika’s role in Shawn Lane’s tone:
- "Bob Gjika built Shawn an amp at some point and that was the amp that was used to record ''Powers of Ten'' in the studio... The amp that Bob built sounds much fuller and has much more saturation than the Westbury pedal."
- (OnlineLeadGuitar.com, 2023)
- [https://onlineleadguitar.com/achieving-shawn-lanes-tone-with-holmes-bluesmaster-and-westbury-pedal https://onlineleadguitar.com/achieving-shawn-lanes-tone-with-holmes-bluesmaster-and-westbury-pedal]
- In a 1994 interview, Shawn Lane said:
- "Then I also use a Bob Gjika amp. He’s from Austin, Texas and he makes really awesome tube amps. I’ve never heard anything like the sound his amplifiers get! It’s a pretty large amp, so I use that for a full-fledged tour or in the studio."
- (Guitars-Lesson.com, 1994)
- [https://guitars-lesson.com/shawn-lane-interview-taken-in-1994/?amp=1 https://guitars-lesson.com/shawn-lane-interview-taken-in-1994/?amp=1]
- Premier Guitar featured a demo of the Gjika SE-30 amplifier at the 2011 NAMM Show:
- "PG's Shawn Hammond visits the Premier Builder's Guild booth and checks out products from Fano Guitars and Gjika Amplifiers."
- (Premier Guitar, 2011)
- [https://www.premierguitar.com/gear/namm-11-fano-tc6-gjika-amps-se-30-demos https://www.premierguitar.com/gear/namm-11-fano-tc6-gjika-amps-se-30-demos]
- These independent, reliable sources establish Bob Gjika as a notable figure in boutique amplifier design, endorsed by respected musicians and featured in reputable gear media. This meets Wikipedia’s notability standards. Tubesfordays (talk) 01:26, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, it really doesn't, and you really do need to review those guidelines and learn about how things are done here (although it's obvious you're just on Wikipedia to defend the article). Namedrops don't satisfy the GNG. Wordpress blogs do not satisfy the GNG. Casual mentions do not satisfy the GNG. Ravenswing 08:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- ::::Thank you for the feedback, @Ravenswing. I understand your concerns, and I agree that we should uphold Wikipedia’s notability standards. I’ve reviewed WP:GNG and WP:RS more closely, and I’d like to clarify a few points.
- While it's true that namedrops or casual mentions don’t establish notability on their own, several of the sources cited go beyond that. For example:
- The **Reverb.com article by Dave Hunter** (a respected gear journalist and author of *The Guitar Amp Handbook*) provides original commentary and context about Bob Gjika's influence, specifically highlighting the unique qualities of his designs and their impact on Shawn Lane’s *Powers of Ten*. Reverb is a commercial site but has published many pieces of original journalism and interviews by established authors. This piece arguably qualifies under WP:SOURCES and WP:AUTHOR.
- **Guitar Player magazine (1992)** includes a direct quote from Shawn Lane giving a detailed endorsement of the Gjika amp. *Guitar Player* is a long-established publication and meets the reliable source criteria.
- The **Premier Guitar video** is produced by a recognized publisher in the music industry and features a product demo at NAMM, the largest trade show for this domain. Appearance in that context shows recognition by a professional audience and not just casual mention.
- I agree that some sources — such as Wordpress interviews — are weaker and should be used carefully or possibly not at all. But the presence of *multiple* independent, reliable sources (not tied to Gjika himself or his website) discussing his work with notable musicians like Shawn Lane and Salvadore Poe supports a case for notability under WP:GNG. Gjika has been referenced in multiple contexts over several decades, and the coverage is more than trivial.
- That said, I’m happy to refine the article and remove or de-emphasize anything that leans too heavily on marginal sources. My intention is to improve the article to Wikipedia’s standards, not to circumvent them.
- You're absolutely right that I haven’t been an active Wikipedia contributor before. I’m primarily an amp collector and enthusiast — my collection includes vintage Fenders, Gibsons, Silvertones, and contemporary boutique builders like Friedman, Bogner, Trainwreck, and Orange. That’s what brought me here: my appreciation for builders like Bob Gjika and my interest in preserving accurate, well-sourced documentation of their contributions to amplifier history.
- I’ve enjoyed learning more about how the Wikipedia process works, and I’m planning to continue contributing in areas where I have subject-matter expertise, particularly in tube amp design and related gear history. I appreciate the discourse and the standards this community upholds — and I welcome any guidance on improving this article (or others) to meet them. Tubesfordays (talk) 18:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, it really doesn't, and you really do need to review those guidelines and learn about how things are done here (although it's obvious you're just on Wikipedia to defend the article). Namedrops don't satisfy the GNG. Wordpress blogs do not satisfy the GNG. Casual mentions do not satisfy the GNG. Ravenswing 08:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate you making your case, but you seem to be trying to rationalize weak sourcing here. Wikipedia requires significant coverage from multiple reliable sources. People name-dropping Gjika is the literal opposite of that. The NAMM show video falls under trivial coverage per WP:CORPTRIV (trivial coverage includes coverage of "participation in industry events, such as trade fairs"). As I said in my nomination, the Reverb piece is something, but not by much, as it's basically a listicle by a source that exists to sell you products. It's not nearly enough to establish notability. Mbinebri (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- ''Keep''' – I appreciate the detailed feedback and your perspective. I’m not trying to rationalize weak sourcing — I’m trying to present what exists in a niche space where even the most influential builders often fly under the radar of major publications.
- The boutique amp world is a niche where much of the relevant documentation lives in trade-specific coverage, artist interviews, gear demos, and community-respected sources like Reverb. While I understand the concern about CORPTRIV and listicles, some of these sources (such as artist interviews and equipment rundowns) reflect real-world influence and are among the few available forms of recognition for builders who work closely with high-profile musicians.
- As one example, the Reverb article was written by Dave Hunter — a respected journalist in the guitar world who has also written extensively for publications like ''Guitar Player'' and ''Vintage Guitar''. His work is regularly cited for guitar amplifier brands on Wikipedia. Reverb.com, while a commercial platform, also publishes professional editorial content and is arguably more widely read in the guitar community than some traditional niche magazines. Dismissing his article solely because it appeared on Reverb feels inconsistent with Wikipedia’s own precedent.
- I do acknowledge that Gjika hasn’t been profiled in mainstream outlets like ''Rolling Stone'' or the ''New York Times'' — but then again, neither have many respected boutique amp makers whose work has shaped recorded music. If notability is to be measured only by traditional media coverage, many figures in specialized crafts will inevitably be excluded despite substantial impact in their field.
- Regardless of the outcome, I’m grateful for the conversation. I’m also learning a lot about Wikipedia’s editorial standards, and I look forward to contributing more in areas I care about, such as tubes and amps. Tubesfordays (talk) 12:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- No one is saying a company needs to be profiled in the New York Times to warrant an article here. Significant coverage in any reliable source(s) will do, but Gjika doesn't have it. Yes, it sucks that companies in niche markets don't get a lot of coverage—many companies far more famous than Gjika don't have Wikipedia articles for that reason—but that doesn't mean we should lower our standards or use Wikipedia as a platform to right the "wrong" of the media ignoring our favorite companies. Gear rundowns and interviews might establish notability for the players being talked to (and maybe not even), but that's trivial when it comes to the companies being mentioned. Mbinebri (talk) 21:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate you making your case, but you seem to be trying to rationalize weak sourcing here. Wikipedia requires significant coverage from multiple reliable sources. People name-dropping Gjika is the literal opposite of that. The NAMM show video falls under trivial coverage per WP:CORPTRIV (trivial coverage includes coverage of "participation in industry events, such as trade fairs"). As I said in my nomination, the Reverb piece is something, but not by much, as it's basically a listicle by a source that exists to sell you products. It's not nearly enough to establish notability. Mbinebri (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Asphales (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to establish notability under WP:GNG; lacks substantial independent, reliable secondary sources covering the subject beyond minimal, trivial mentions AndesExplorer (talk) 20:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: the Wikipedia Library includes access to De Standaard, a major Belgian newspaper. A quick search turns up 16 hits for articles containing "Asphales" and 15 hits for "Fortales" (Asphales' current name).--A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 02:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Aramco Financial Services Company (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient independent, reliable sources demonstrating notability per WP:GNG; sourcing relies heavily on the parent company (Saudi Aramco) business reporting. AndesExplorer (talk) 20:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge with Certificate of Financial Responsibility written in 2014. Aramco Financial Services Company was written in 2006 and seems to be about the same subject matter. However, Certificate of Financial Responsibility seems to make more sense. In the long run, I'm not sure this subject matter is worthy of an article. — Maile (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - the proposed target for a merger is only tangentially related. This is a company; the target is a process and rule. Bearian (talk) 01:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge Article is about the same subject and it should merge with Certificate of Financial Responsibility Pasados (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Marvell Software Solutions Israel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources, fails WP:NCORP ProtobowlAddict talk! 20:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge into its parent Marvell Technology per ATD and PRESERVE. Classroom example of excessive fragmentation. Thanks for nominating! gidonb (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep, for now - Although it has since been deleted, the notability flag on the article was only placed on it on 17 May, a day before this AfD was initiated. It would be better for interested editors to be given time to improve the article first in response to the notability or other concerns, without imminent deletion hanging over the article. The notability flag should be restored, and if the article isn't improved in a meaningful amount of time, then the AfD can (and should) be reinitiated. Coining (talk) 20:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge into Marvell Technology, which is a good target for this non-notable company. Fails WP:GNG and more importantly, fails WP:NCORP due to lack of significant in-depth independent coverage. Netherzone (talk) 13:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge - this company isn't completely notable, but it's better to put it in context with its parent company's article than delete it outright. Bearian (talk) 01:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge agree with the merge into Marvell Technology to at least have it as a mention and add more context for the more well known main company it is related with.Lorraine Crane (talk) 17:21, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge into Marvell Technology as above per WP:ATD, sourcing fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 18:08, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Warriors 4 Christ Wrestling (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No notable pro wrestling promotion. quick search shows 0 results. Since it was deleted in 2008, i recomend WP:SALT HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment — Alternative weeklies are typically regarded as credible journalistic sources. Are we disregarding that source because of a dead URL? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 18:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- One source. Per WP:GNG, "multiple sources are generally expected" looking here, there are mostly wikias, reddit and facebook/youtube. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Elixir Press (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass WP:NCORP. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - searched the typical WP:BEFORE places, newspapers.com, and PressReader - didn't find anything more in-depth than mentions. No inherited notability from association w/ notable writers, and no clear merge/redirect target. Zzz plant (talk) 01:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - This is an small, independent press publishing poetry and literary fiction. These publications are not often covered in mainstream press, yet their publications play a role in literary communities. Curious why, with public funding of arts largely stripped in the U.S., librarians being fired, this is the right time to delete a small press from Wikipedia? 174.238.164.181 (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has always required that topics be notable as established via WP:RS. This article was created by an WP:SPA (which usually indicates they likely had a very close connection to Elixir Press) almost 8 years ago. It wasn't appropriate to publish articles on non-notable topics back then, either. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - my 20-minute search for references came up empty. Note that there is another, unrelated press named "Golden Elixir Press". (Note: I think this argument is from User:A. B. Liz Read! Talk! 22:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC))
- Yes, that was me. Thanks for signing for me. A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 23:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing in terms of referencing that would support notability. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is "Golden Elixir Press" a notable press by these standards? 63.135.182.71 (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure given the current referencing although it does seem to be the primary/original publisher of translated copies of several notable Taoist texts. Whether or not it is notable is irrelevant per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep— many of the authors who have been published by Elixir Press continue to be active and are producing new works. Because of the nature of Elixir’s work as an independent press focused in part on debut authors, several authors may have been lesser known at the time of their publication, but have grown in notability. Agree that to focus on the possible deletion of an article on an independent press is particularly troubling when literature and the arts are being devalued at large. 64.135.133.153 (talk) 22:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Press itself isn't going away, nor are the authors or published works. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of notable topics as established by reliable sources, which this article has always lacked going back for eight years now. If the argument is that it enhances this specific press or helps them maintain visibility, that is directly contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Agree--it is troubling given premier role this press plays and context: current state of the arts/Wikipedia's purpose/the need for public support of poetry even if things were glorious. It is one of a few presses that new poets DREAM their work will be published by. People in the poetry world look to it too, to identify and read up and coming writers. And they make beautiful books also an endangered art. KEEP! 2601:19B:4102:1370:7097:75E6:4823:96F8 (talk) 15:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Press itself isn't going away, nor are the authors or published works. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of notable topics as established by reliable sources, which this article has always lacked going back for eight years now. If the argument is that it enhances this specific press or helps them maintain visibility, that is directly contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC) - Keep--This is an established small press offering a well known first book prize, which is often won by writers who go on to greater fame. Worth keeping as a listing if you are interested in accurate info about literary publishing, small presses or writers in America. Poems published by this press have been featured on Poetry Daily, The Slowdown and more. 73.61.242.125 (talk) 16:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment given that these IPs are all making the name (non-policy based) argument, have all never edited before, all geolocate to one of two of the same regions, and have highly specific and unusual concerns, I worry that there may be WP:CANVASSing going on here. I ask any closer to take that into consideration. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wild Peony Press (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. Searching on gscholar, archive.org found virtually nothing except content about books they published, which they do not inherit the notability of. Even for a book publisher there are also not that many hits for their books, it is almost entirely citations to one book they published (which is notable), to an extent where I was able to look through the citations relatively completely. The 4th source is sigcov... but written by the founder of the company. The single piece of independent sigcov is the 5th source in this article, which is [58] this, which is fine. But that is only 1 source. Not enough for GNG or the higher NCORP. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:41, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Creator here. I've added three more independent sources, being a scholarly monograph, an art market paper and an obituary. It seems to me that it constitutes substantial coverage alongside the existing ones, and the fact that new research is appearing on it sixteen years after it closed is a sign of notability. Thanks! Sheijiashaojun (talk) 06:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- The monograph has a paragraph, the obituary has 1 mention. The other source has 3 sentences. Not horrible, but not enough to pass WP:NCORP. I realize Mabel Lee has an article and she is the founder so now instead of deletion I would recommend merging to Mabel Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- : Have added another source in Chinese. Of course I understand that the source base is small, but I wrote the article because I couldn't figure out what this press that had published several important writers was. Having figured out via research what it was, it seems to me very much the point of Wikipedia editing to provide that information for others. I can guarantee that it is notable for people working on translation studies in Australia, which I grant you is a small group, but we exist. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't dispute that you made this article for a good reason but the sources here do not pass WP:SIRS (required for organization articles). Notability isn't inherited from the books they publish. If it is merged the information on the publisher won't be deleted. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Have added another source that I consider to be SIRS if you care to review. I suppose much of it rides on what you think is 'significant.' There are now four English IRS sources of several sentences and a fifth one in Chinese. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- That source is fine. Now we have the two sources about the company, but this is still not enough for WP:NCORP per WP:MULTSOURCES. The rest are one or two sentence mentions, which do not count for notability. The rest of the English sources are passing, and the Chinese source mentions them for a single sentence ( non WP:SIRS coverage). PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- To be factual, besides the sources you don't dispute (Galik; Taylor), Brennan is by the narrowest definition four sentences and Bruno three (or four if you also include p. 121). The Chinese source mentions them not, as you write, for a single sentence, but two (it doesn't permit copy-pasting, but the section begins with 其中 and goes to footnote 6). In all of these cases the surrounding text also bears on the situation of WP in the translation and publishing environment of the day. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Only sentence in the Chinese source that refers to them: "其中A.R.戴维斯的“杜甫雨诗赏析”是我读到的最好最真切的唐诗英译! 80年代初悉尼大学的Mabel Lee(陈顺妍)博士还创立了野牡丹出版社,出版了大量优秀的亚洲文学翻译作品以及早期移民的英文作品比如来自广东的Stanley Hunt先生写的《从石岐到悉尼》" [
- [One of the best and most authentic English translations of Tang poems I have ever read is A.R. Davies' “An Appreciation of Du Fu's Rain Poems”! In the early 80's, Dr. Mabel Lee (Chen Shunyan) from the University of Sydney also founded the Wild Peony Press, which published a large number of excellent translations of Asian literature, as well as early immigrants' works in English, such as “From Shiqi to Sydney” written by Mr. Stanley Hunt from Guangdong.] the footnote is a citation and does not contain more sentences. The next sentence does not mention them, only Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Using text on the "surrounding situation" would be WP:SYNTH.
- And sentences about Lee that do not mention Peony do not count for information on the publisher. And three sentences in a single short paragraph is also not WP:SIRS ... I can't access anything in Southerly but I would be surprised if the quality of coverage was any different. Most of these sources are really about Lee. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're right about the Chinese source; I misread, apologies. As for Southerly, it isn't fair to make assumptions if you haven't read it. From p. 215 of the Southerly article:
- To be factual, besides the sources you don't dispute (Galik; Taylor), Brennan is by the narrowest definition four sentences and Bruno three (or four if you also include p. 121). The Chinese source mentions them not, as you write, for a single sentence, but two (it doesn't permit copy-pasting, but the section begins with 其中 and goes to footnote 6). In all of these cases the surrounding text also bears on the situation of WP in the translation and publishing environment of the day. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- That source is fine. Now we have the two sources about the company, but this is still not enough for WP:NCORP per WP:MULTSOURCES. The rest are one or two sentence mentions, which do not count for notability. The rest of the English sources are passing, and the Chinese source mentions them for a single sentence ( non WP:SIRS coverage). PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Have added another source that I consider to be SIRS if you care to review. I suppose much of it rides on what you think is 'significant.' There are now four English IRS sources of several sentences and a fifth one in Chinese. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't dispute that you made this article for a good reason but the sources here do not pass WP:SIRS (required for organization articles). Notability isn't inherited from the books they publish. If it is merged the information on the publisher won't be deleted. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Creator here. I've added three more independent sources, being a scholarly monograph, an art market paper and an obituary. It seems to me that it constitutes substantial coverage alongside the existing ones, and the fact that new research is appearing on it sixteen years after it closed is a sign of notability. Thanks! Sheijiashaojun (talk) 06:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
"Considering the decline in foreign language education over the last ten years — especially those languages key to our region such as Bahasa Indonesia, Mandarin and Japanese — it might be said, in Howardspeak, monolingualism is all about a fair go. This is a sad possibility for the broader Australian community, which is in actu - ality richly polyglot. Thankfully, Mabel Lee’s and A. D. Syrokomia- Stefanowska’s work with Wild Peony has been a particular boon, bringing in work that may not have otherwise appeared, and is part of a larger, albeit under-sup ported, effort on the part of Australian translators, native-speaking collabor tors and publishers to offer foreign language literature to an Australian audience. Mabel Lee’s translations of Nobel Prize winner Gao Xingjian and Yang Lian, Simon Patton’s translations, editing and collaboration through the Chinese pages of Poetry International Web, Ouyang Yu’s work with Otherland, Peter Boyle’s translations from Spanish and French, and Leith Morton’s translations of Shuntaro Tanikawa, Ishigaki Rin, and Koike Masayo, along with various Australian literary journals (notably Heat and Southerly), and Melbourne University’s Asialink Program are some of the key recent examples of Australian translators and pub - lishers working against the abashed and embarrassed tide of Australian monolingualism. The publication of collections such as Naikan Tao and Tony Prince’s Eight Contemporary Chinese Poets, and the work of small publishers such as Wild Peony Press, are an important move against cultural parochialism. Sadly, Tao’s and Prince’s anthol - ogy represents one of the last publications for Wild Peony. It is difficult not to think, the Australian literary community might be well served supplementing the proliferation of annual Best of Australian Poetry anthologies with a Best of World Poetry or a Best of Poetry in Translation. Going by Tao’s and Prince’s Eight Contemporary Chinese Poets, the benefits would be considerable." When I say "surrounding situation" I just mean that Michael Brennan (poet) is here substantially talking about the role of Wild Peony (among other publishers) in Australian letters, even when he does not write "Wild Peony" in every sentence.WP:SYNTH does not apply and it is not all about Mabel Lee. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 00:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- That is about what I expected from that. I think I've said enough words so I am going to let other people comment on if this coverage is WP:SIRS compliant. Nevertheless, thank you very much for the quote. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Sources are sufficient. NOTBROKEN. Let's all concentrate a bit more on the article space. gidonb (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Does not pass WP:NCORP. Merrill Leffler is notable and if we had an article on him I would suggest redirecting there, but as of now we do not. Searching for sources on the press I found nada. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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This article was written by Buzz Tatom who worked for the company and admitted to it in the AfD back in 2005. And it does not appear to be any major coverage about the company since despite being made in 1923. GamerPro64 07:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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No reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ProtobowlAddict talk! 02:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - There are sources showing it exists, but nothing that comes close to WP:ORGCRIT. I found it strange that a company claiming to be more than 100 years old has no online presence. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Chester Telephone Company was started in 1897 as privately-owned independent telephone company to serve the small rural town of Chester, South Carolina. In the 1980s, it was one of the investors in a successful regional fiber network, PalmettoNet,[59] that sold broadband capacity and dark fiber to large long distance telecoms and big corporate users. It also began acquiring small cable TV systems and now says it serves about 60,000 customers.[60] Over the years, Chester Telephone, then TruVista got industry coverage for deploying new (at the time) technologies.[61] TruVista was purchased by a big private equity firm, iCON Infrastructure, in 2019 and operates autonomously. [62] I personally think we should have an article about this company since it's part of the history of rural telecommunications. I know it would meet WP:GNG. However, companies have to meet Wikipedia's much more restrictive WP:NCORP guideline which effectively disqualifies most otherwise reliable press coverage (including major events such as "the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business") from notability consideration. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 01:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you have the sources that meet WP:ORGCRIT (regardless of what name it was at the time), then it would meet NCORP. Makes sense that it had numerous name changes since there really isn't anything out there under the current name. I would be happy to change my vote if you can provide the links. I do not have access to ProQuest unfortunately though. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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This appears to be a basic summary of a non-notable commercial operation - no assertion of notability is made, and the service it provides is routine / non-innovative. A mention in a list of eSIM operators would seem sufficient. SeoR (talk) 00:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep passes WP:PRODUCT. An in-depth review in TechRadar - [63] - in-depth coverage in Levante-EMV - [64] - and La Vanguardia - [65] - is enough to pass WP:GNG threshold as well. 82.117.28.137 (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Seems to fail WP:NCORP - simple as that. Lacks secondary sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:31, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: i made the page, but i see where you're coming from, added a few more sources to do my best attempt. ive seen similar pages sourcing/notability wise, i believe it should stay and grow sr1jj (ᴛ) 15 May 2025
- @Sr1jj:, please format your comment/vote properly. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I am finding a lot of sources but the company is just mentioned along with the games. As it is a company, it must meet WP:NCORP which means there needs to be in-depth coverage, not just mentions. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Keepstrike duplicate !vote - i am finding a lot of sources with them in the title and can point to contemporary existing pages. --sr1jj (talk) 16 May 2025
- @Sr1jj:, again, please format your previous comment/vote properly. There is an unnecessary heading ("notability"). As far as finding "a lot of sources," can you point to the ones that meet WP:ORGCRIT?--CNMall41 (talk) 17:40, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Hackinformer and Switch Effect, two sources that conducted interviews, appear to be non-notable fan sites, and other available coverage is about the games it publishes, not the company. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Nothing in-depth about the company, sourcing fails GNG/WP:NCORP criteria. HighKing++ 18:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, article lacking sources to demonstrate its notability for an article here. Patre23 (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Seems to be old article but needs to be cited with notable news references.Almandavi (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: This article looks like an advertisement. I attempted to locate significant coverage but hardly found this-[66], and appears to be unreliable. Currently, there is nothing to convey WP:NCORP. B-Factor (talk) 04:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment not voting here, but sharing these to look at, [67], [68], [69], [70], interviews can also be used to pick up some points as this seems to be questioning in detail [71], [72], They have bagged several project including a few notable ones [73], [74], sponsored/partnered but tells us about Scania project [75], notable court related project case [76], [77]. Minor mentions primary, secondary to mentions that provide their work, court case and leadership informantion leads to GNG. There are mentions in other sources as well. Re-writing as an option would work better as it is an old article per Almandavi, tagging Patre23, B-Factor. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 06:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HilssaMansen19, Your comment is appreciable and your initiative to save an article. I would love to change my vote to Keep if I discover two substantial, independent pieces of coverage from credible sources. Rewriting may be a viable alternative as it serves as promotional content. B-Factor (talk) 04:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed and not a WP:LISTED company, as it claims on the page. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: This is a company therefore WP:GNG/WP:NCORP should meet with at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content". The references mentioned are self-published, press coverage or announcement. B-Factor (talk) 04:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Agree per nom. Asteramellus (talk) 00:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep I found modest but sufficiently non-trivial, event-focused coverage in Telangana Today, IndianWeb2 (a local news site), and others like The Economic Times. They give not so bad third-party coverage that makes it possible to publish a page using only independent sources. Also, there are some quotes from the company's management which are not helpful, but they do not dominate the coverage. Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. It appears to meet WP:GNG as I found some significant coverage in reliable and independent references to the subject. Fade258 (talk) 16:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the subject is notable due to its big industry scope and a number of reliable sourced media links within the page and wp before (online). J. P. Fridrich (talk) 11:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, profit/financial reporting, turnover news, capacity expansion news etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: This is one of the largest and oldest garment company in India. This article has the potential to remain on Wikipedia due to extensive coverage and compliance with company's notability criteria. B-Factor (talk) 04:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete B-Factor's claims that this company is amongst the oldest and largest garment companies are unsourced and most likely untrue. The available coverage is entirely trivial and does not meet the threshold of WP:CORPDEPTH. Yuvaank (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NORG - no indication of WP:SUSTAINED notability supported by WP:RS. Amigao (talk) 03:17, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and google does not show sources
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I did my WP:BEFORE and am nominating it for deletion under the grounds of WP:N. It could barely find any sources in Japanese, and none in English. DankPedia (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: What's your assessment of the Japanese sources you found? MarioGom (talk) 22:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relies almost entirely on primary sources. Unable to find any sources that show it meets WP:NCORP. The only secondary coverage is about an event - the former CEO being removed and suing a law firm that he says gave him bad counsel that led to his removal. But there’s no WP:INHERITORG from being associated with an event (and the event here does not even have sufficient enduring significance to qualify for a page under WP:Event in any case. I have a WP:COI as a paid consultant for WhiteHatWiki, which was hired by this company. I do not want to waste the time of volunteer editors to evaluate proposed corrections and edit requests on a page that does not qualify.) Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 18:20, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Sourcing is not particualrly strong. Notability is not clear. Does not seem to meet WP:NCORP. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment leaning keep - article definitely has an excessive detail problem, but they received some non-routine seeming coverage for their COVID-19 testing program (added 2 sources to article, although one isn't accessible w/o pressreader). Zzz plant (talk) 01:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment It appears that the nominator may have been influenced more by a perceived conflict of interest (COI) issue than by the actual question of notability. The company in question was founded by Mikael Kubista, and similar patterns have occurred before. For example, on Mikael Kubista's own Wikipedia page, there was repeated removal of content related to a legal dispute involving TATAA Biocenter by SPA @ArtChomsky which was settled by an admin and the argument to remove a fact related TATAA there was irrational. A similar issue seems to be happening here—there appears to be an effort, possibly coordinated behind the scenes, to suppress certain information by removing pages from Wikipedia. This raises concerns about the integrity of the platform’s commitment to neutrality and transparency.
I urge editors to review this situation carefully, with special attention to the quality and relevance of the sources cited, to ensure that content is evaluated fairly and not unduly influenced by COI concerns or efforts to obscure verifiable information.ManIxal (talk) 06:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Music Nation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are PR stuff and no coverage from independent reliable sources, fails NCORP. GrabUp - Talk 05:25, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - article reads like an advertisement for the company ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – The subject is a UAE-based collective management organization that has received significant coverage from industry sources like Billboard, satisfying WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:GNG. The article can be further revised for tone and neutrality. Cleanup or advert tagging would be more appropriate than deletion. Subject has no relationship to past deleted articles titles "Music Nation". Mrmctorso (talk) 15:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- I tagged the article with templates pointing out the promotional content. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:15, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This is a company which means it must meet WP:NCORP. In order to do so, there must be sources meeting WP:ORGCRIT. I can only find routine coverage such as this and mentions such as this, all of which do not add up to the coverage necessary for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- User comment – If consensus leans toward deletion, I would prefer that the article be moved to draftspace rather than deleted outright. The article is based on verifiable, independent sources and documents a legitimate public–private rights initiative in the UAE. There will be opportunities to improve with additional coverage. Mrmctorso (talk) 19:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- The issue with that is that there is no additional coverage. This would fall under WP:OVERCOME. If the sources existed, I would gladly clean up per WP:HEY. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Fortenbury, Jon (19 September 2014). "Austin Company Bravelets: Helping Families In Need, One Piece Of Jewelry At A Time". Austin.com.
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N/A (6 April 2023). "Dubai Culture signs MoU with Music Nation and DGMC to boost the local music industry". Magzoid.
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Dalugdug, Mandy (26 March 2025). "Music Nation Partners with SoundExchange to collect and distribute Neighboring Rights in the UAE". Music Business Worldwide.
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King, Ashley (23 May 2023). "BMI is Developing a 'Performing Rights Infrastructure' in UAE with Music Nation". Digital Music News.
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- Delete Articles entirely based on press releases or regurgitated company information without additional analysis/commentary/etc are not independent content, sourcing fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 18:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fintilect (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable software company. Routine coverage like M&As, renaming, investments, are not enough to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. UPE history is another issue. Gheus (talk) 09:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep after article rescue work (again). Any recent UPE work (if that's what it was) had already been reverted by the nominator. Restore former material of historical interest, e.g. OS/2 software as highlighted in the previous AFD. – Fayenatic London 13:39, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I haven't found anything outside of primary sources and routine business announcements. Many sources are "fintech" focused and I tend to view such sources with the same skepticism as crypto focused sites. I haven't found much in the way of notability for the previous iterations of the company either. The sources on the historic article don't seem to meet reliability or notability requirements either. The old page seems like a relic of a more lenient era of wikipedia. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Is not notable and does not have wide coverage in RS. Reads like a promotion. Ramos1990 (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per Nom: Absolutely promotional. Check this out: Fintilect is a group of fintech companies. Enter the source (UK FinTech) "...cementing its position as one of the largest global digital banking software providers". Not bragging are we? -- Otr500 (talk) 05:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete None of the sourcing meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 18:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- MMC Automotriz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Car manufacturing company that fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Half of the sources cited in this article come from company's own website, while others are very short mentions. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I'm not fully decided on the !vote, but there's quite some coverage in independent sources, especially about production issues, worker strikes, and a major acquisition operation [78][79][80][81][82][83]. Also covered in in a book about the Panama Papers [84] but I have not accessed it so not sure the extent of it. MarioGom (talk) 17:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: It's a minor car seller in Venezuela, but still significant, representing all Hyundai sells. The article needs a lot of work and has mostly primary sources. However, there are many sources showing enough coverage. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Not seeing this as WP:NCORP. It is a manufacturer of multiple models, but what is it notable for? Many manufacturers of cars and car parts do not get their own article. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Be mindful of WP:WHATABOUT. --NoonIcarus (talk) 10:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist
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- Holiday Oil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Despite the company's regional presence, it lacks coverage from multiple reliable sources Hopkinkse (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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*Keep passes WP:N and WP:V. It has reliable coverage as well. [85][86][87][88][89] There are many more secondary, passing mentions of the subject and other sources available. It (the article) definitely needs some work on the references and details. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 22:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Notability of this chain is not established. More indepth coverage of the orgnaization would help. Don't think it meets WP:NCORP. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: One final relist. Can we get some comments based on the sources that have came up and do a source eval, please?
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- Delete. The sources provided by @HilssaMansen19 are, in order: (1) a transcript of a very promotional-sounding local radio piece (2) the home page of Business Wire, an outlet that disseminates press releases (3) a local news "article" that includes lines like "Join their Loyalty program", "Check out Tank up Tuesday" and "For more information check them out online on their website or Instagram" (4) a press release and (5) a press release. None of those sources contribute towards notability. The two Deseret News sources that are cited in the article are better, but this one relies very heavily on quotes from the owners and therefore fails WP:ORGIND, and this one is a routine local story about some online complaints that fails WP:CORPDEPTH. I didn't find anything else that could contribute towards WP:NCORP. MCE89 (talk) 15:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Your analysis seems to be right but there are many more mentions in many newspapers and others. What do you say about redirect to List of gas station chains in North America per WP:ATP. I have added it's name there. It has 75 outlets and maybe we can have more content to expand later. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 17:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per above analysis, I am cancelling my vote for keep and redirect with merge or keep it for now per WP:ATP to List of gas station chains in North America. I will try to search for some sources and may be if it is notable in future, it can be added. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 17:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think List of gas station chains in North America is a suitable redirect target, as its inclusion criteria appears to only include entries that are notable in their own right. MCE89 (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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