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Rocking the Boat (documentary)

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Fails WP:NFILM. Also, independent, third-party reliable sources weak in nature. The creator moved from draftspace to mainspace to avoid WP:SCRUTINY per [1] Agent 007 (talk) 19:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RåFILM film collective

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Fails WP:ORG. The article seems to be created here as only for promotion with only one self-published source being repeated after RåFILM was deleted as WP:G11. Agent 007 (talk) 17:57, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ya it looks like but it also contain some information this author might change the tone and make it informative Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 18:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Manthanvashistha009 How did you know before-hand ? Agent 007 (talk) 19:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per nom. Main subject seems to be Detained (2015) which does not have significant media coverage. Everything else seems extraneous. I fixed the structure of the page, but I don't think it has a place on Wikipedia. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 01:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The organization creates impactful films on social, environmental, and humanitarian issues. Their documentaries are widely cited and used by NGOs and academic institutions. Focusing on marginalized communities and public awareness, these films serve as powerful educational tools and continue to inspire positive change through storytelling. Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 19:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] ‹ The template below (Collapse AI bottom) is being considered for deletion. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. ›

@Manthanvashistha009 Why are you using ChatGPT like tools to reply. Are you being paid by RåFILM or related to Eduwriter189? Agent 007 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

no i am not related to any of these Manthanvashistha009 (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

can u guys let me know which part make it promotional and how should i maintain the neutrality Eduwriter189 (talk) 19:15, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People have already adviced you many times on your talk-page. Agent 007 (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Article is using only primary sourcing, not acceptable. I can only find one passing mention [2].. We has next to nothing for sources, so just nothing to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - at this time way too little mentions in media. Primary sourcing is not enough.BabbaQ (talk) 08:14, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prenses Banu

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The subject may still fall short of meeting Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, particularly the criteria outlined in WP:GNG. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 09:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Pink Shirt

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Setting aside the LTA SOCK creation, this is a web series that played at a film festival and then died. Sources are all promotional announcements, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, or otherwise unreliable. And yes, NEWSORGINDIA applies as it is based on the same principle. CNMall41 (talk) 17:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Edwards (Australian composer)

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This Article relies so much on unreliable sources and no improvement have been made, I was thinking I could find a source with independent coverage but I couldn’t find, The subject has contributed in many field of entertainment yet fails to have WP:SIGCOV, fails WP:MUSICBIO, fails WP:GNG per no particularly article that speaks about him independently on multiple secondary sources, most of the citations are either usercreated space under a music website where he has listed his musical works. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 12:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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United Nations movie society

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Fails WP:GNG TheLongTone (talk) 12:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Neither the cited references nor anything else that searches have turned up provide any evidence at all of satisfying the notability guidelines. (Also the article is substantially promotional.) JBW (talk) 12:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. I couldn't find anything either. It looks like this is one of dozens upon dozens of clubs run by the UN Staff Recreation Council. I don't see where this is independently notable, nor where it merits a mention anywhere on Wikipedia. There's no usable coverage for this outside of primary sources and if we were to mention the Movie Society, then why not also the Russian Book Club or Enlightenment Society? And if we were, then where would that even be mentioned? There's also the question of where they would even be mentioned since the UN Recreation Council isn't mentioned on the main UN Headquarters page other than a passing reference in regards to a radio station. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Vanity page by a (now-blocked) COI contributor where if nothing else would be TNT-able. But an actual BEFORE shows nothing on the order of WP:SIRS. —Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:07, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Blatant advertising by former intern, can find nothing to suggest that this is a notable organisation. Theroadislong (talk) 19:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kanchana 4

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFF. Filming has begun but there is no release date (except projected sometime in 2026). Filming has begun but there is nothing notable about the production and since unreleased or upcoming films are seldom considered notable we could also move to draft as an WP:ATD until such time this one is. Originally tagged for notability but that was removed and discussion was stalled so here we are. CNMall41 (talk) 16:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: It does meet WP:NFF as filming significantly progressed, and the series itself is notable, comparable to the Conjuring and Scream series. The nominator earlier made a rather poor comparision to Scary Movie 6 which is still in pre-prod. Kailash29792 (talk) 01:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for re-engaging, albeit at AfD. Notability is not inferred based on "filming significantly progressed" or the fact it is part of a notable series. NFF clearly states, "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Can you point out what is notable about the production? --CNMall41 (talk) 02:22, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cinepix

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Completely unsourced article, seems to fail WP:GNG. I am bad at usernames (talk | contribs) 14:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: no relevant results on Google, even when searching in its original language (I can only find company register websites). Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: not seeing anything. Timur9008 (talk) 08:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Everything Is A OK: A Dallas, TX Punk Documentary

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Fails WP:NFILM DonaldD23 talk to me 10:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I couldn't find anything out there other than what's already in the article. I did add some content and an interview in hopes of finding more, but again, nothing. If we had a good redirect target I suppose it could redirect there, but List of documentary films specifies that they must be notable films and I've never had any sort of answer on whether or not we could add and redirect films to the given film's year specific page for List of American films. So with no other alternatives that I can see, as the director doesn't appear to pass NCREATIVE and we have no page on the punk rock scene in Dallas, this will have to be a delete on my end. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 21:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Cooper (Model maker)

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Fails WP:GNG no significant coverage, beyond listings and credits. Declined 5 times at WP:AFC but moved to mainspace repeatedly by User:Orlando Davis who states “ I don't agree with notability tags. The subject may take it personally. Deletion makes more sense, or leave it alone.” so here we are. Theroadislong (talk) 15:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Fine-Scale Modeler, The Evening Independent, and Bay News 9 are all highly reliable and independent. The film credits and interview articles should be noted. Significant changes have been made after each time it was turned down. Orlando Davis (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With niche sourcing like Fine-Scale Modeler, one good way to establish it as a RS is to show where the source is seen as a RS by other RS, particularly academic/scholarly sources. Offhand I see it used listed in a further reading section in this CRC Press book and a note in this Taylor & Francis. I wasn't able to find much more. The magazine was owned by Kalmbach Media but was sold to Firecrown Media last year. It looks like this is probably usable, but I'd recommend running it through WP:RS/N to be certain.

As far as interviews go, those are seen as primary sources regardless of where they're posted unless they're written in prose. The standard interview format is pretty much just question and answer, without any sort of accompanying article. As such, they almost always have little to no editorial oversight or fact-checking beyond formatting and spell-check. This is a very widely held stance on Wikipedia and is unlikely to ever change.

Now, when it comes to film credits the issue here is that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED by the person working on a notable production or with notable people. The reason for this is that there can be hundreds to even thousands of people working on a film. According to this, over 3,000 people worked on Iron Man 3, so just working on a notable film isn't enough to establish notability - you need coverage in independent and reliable sources that specific highlight the person in question. So if there was a RS review that stated "Randy Cooper's work on IM2 was fantastic", that would count. However with his work being so specific, it's unlikely that he would be highlighted over say, the person or company who was overall in charge of VFX.

Finally, I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't say that local coverage tends to be kind of seen as routine on Wikipedia as local outlets are more likely to cover a local person. So in this case what you will need to do is help establish how this coverage should be seen as more than just local, routine coverage. Viewership/circulation numbers are a great way of doing this. So for example, a local paper with a fairly low readership would be seen as kind of routine whereas say, an article in a major, well circulated paper would be seen as a much stronger source. Now to be fair, there's nothing official saying that local coverage can't be used, but it is typically seen as a weaker source and shouldn't be doing the heavy lifting in an AfD discussion. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response.

Bay News has a very high viewership (1.76 Million), (source 11). Charter Communications

The Evening Independent was a major newspaper in the Tampa Bay area and was merged as the Tampa Bay Times in 1986, which has a circulation of over 100k not including the more widely read digital edition. 1)Times Publishing Company 2) Tampa Bay Times Orlando Davis (talk) 19:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fine Scale Modeler magazine is ok for sourcing, the rest either aren't online, trivial mentions or primary sources. I can't pull anything up. Just not enough sourcing for wikipedia. Oaktree b (talk) 19:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We have two solid sources so far: Fine Scale Modeler and the Evening Independent. Also, we should be able to use the five interviews due to the Ignore-all-rules rule since it is an article that is obviously notable, and the rules are getting in the way. Interviews by the hobby magazines Sci-Fi-Modeler., Psycho Moya Styrene, the YouTube channels Richard Cleveland (Amazing Plastic), Adam Savage’s Tested (A YouTube channel with almost 7 million subscribers and the public television Bay news, with a viewership of 1.76 million make Randy notable, and the Ignore All Rules rule was put in place for situations like this when the rules get in the way of an obviously notable article. He built many models that were used for major films such as Starship Troopers, Iron Man 2, Stargate, Spider-Man 2, and many others. Just looking at his older models, it's obvious that the style of spaceships he created was used for Starship Troopers, a major movie!

And what's the difference between an interview and an article in this case? For this article, the part that matters for notability is that he is significant enough to be written about and interviewed by various significant sources. Orlando Davis (talk) 11:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Naalppathukalile Pranayam: Love in Forties

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Fails WP:NFILM, including WP:NFF. Unreleased, no release date known, shown at a few festivals but none of which appear to be notable, nothing to substantiate WP:GNG as its all announcements and promotional information that comes prior to release. I moved to draft space as an WP:ATD which was objected to so here we are. CNMall41 (talk) 19:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Namah Pictures

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Long list of sources but not a single source which describes about the company and its work. Most of them are just mentions or in the form of press release about acquiring film rights or announcing about films. Hard to find independent neutral coverage about this company to meet notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 14:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, non-notable corp. As the nominator mentioned, I can't find coverage of the organization that meets SIRS of the company. Despite the length of blue-linked films in the article, there are no provisions for NFILM companies that allow for heritability (WP:NOTINHERITED) of the products or productions of a film company that meet notability. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - And salt it. Clearly not notable as sources do not meet WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, There is no significant coverage of this company in any reliable source. Afstromen (talk) 07:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: References are just passing mentions, no in-depth coverage. Fails to meet WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 09:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - doesn't have enough reliable sources or they are just mentions.Darkm777 (talk) 02:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Deep news coverage about the profile is missing.Almandavi (talk) 05:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No significant or secondary sources to establish notability. MichaelRichard67 (talk) 16:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

April Fool (1989 film)

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Fails WP:NFILM, lacks any reliable secondary sources or references. Was draftified however article creator repeatedly moves to mainspace without addressing lack of suitable references. Noting IMDb and YouTube are not acceptable or reliable sources. Dan arndt (talk) 13:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I left a note at WikiProject Film/Israeli cinema task force linking to this AfD--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per refs added today. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as an easy pass of NFILM. A film of this importance should not be nominated for deletion and under no circumstance whatsoever have been prodded. AFDISNOTCLEANUP. This comment would not be balanced without expressing my gratitude for the important work nominator does as a new page reviewer! gidonb (talk) 00:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto as to the nominator! —A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 19:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Found some sourcing here, not sure of how in-depth or anything it is since it's in Hebrew. This will absolutely need someone fluent to do further searching to improve the article. I'll ask over at WP:ISRAEL. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Walla News article is significant coverage but it alone isn't enough, the film archive page contains only a brief plot summary. --Mika1h (talk) 21:58, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abhishek Malhan

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Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NYOUTUBER. No lasting, independent coverage in reliable sources. Purely social media fame WP:NOTPROMO applies. BharatGanguly (talk) 09:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I would like to see significant coverage. What we have now are just news items. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 08:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Searches turned up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. B-Factor 17:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lack of wp:SIGCOV and fails Wp:YOUTUBER. Zuck28 (talk) 14:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and disagree with B-Factor. If you want to keep this article then show reliable sources. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 06:07, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

World Film Carnival Singapore

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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There is significant coverage in the form of multiple reliable sources such as The Times of India, The Indian Express, Hindustan Times and many others to demonstrate notability. I think it passes WP:GNG. Sofilily (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This came up in a previous AfD about one of the films awarded by WFC, where editors (including myself) suspected it was one of many festivals that operate as a thinly veiled PR service. Most of the sources Sofilily mentions are actually articles about films that appeared in the festival, with only brief mentions of World Film Carnival Singapore. This Times of India article is the exception, but it reads as the type of potentially paid advertorial that WP:TIMESOFINDIA warns about. The ones that come closest to meeting WP:SIRS are Lokmat, The Star, The Print, or Sambad, but these are all similarly promotional articles about actors/films and don't say much about WFC itself. hinnk (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maverick Movie Awards

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Primary sourced promotion for non notable award farm. Bombarded with name dropping but notability is not inherited. Bombarded with lots of primary sources but lack coverage about the actual award organisation. Prod removed because of incoming links but notability is not inherited from those who get one of their "awards". duffbeerforme (talk) 08:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Some mentions in Gbooks [3], but that's all. Gnews, Gsearch and Scholar all come up with nada. Sourcing now in the article is primary or imdb, which is not a RS. Lack of sourcing showing this award would meet notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Berlin Independent Film Festival

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Primary sourced promotion for non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. Mentions in articles about films that showed there is trivial coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - Per WP:COVERAGE section at WP:EVENTS, there is enough sources to satisfy the criteria "diversity of sources" but the "depth of coverage" is lacking. The best articles I found are by Exberliner: [4], Hero (British magazine): [5], and Screen Daily: [6]. The "duration of coverage" is also lacking, very difficult to find coverage of the festival in some years. You would think that winners and film line-ups would be regularly reported but seems to be not the case. --Mika1h (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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SmartFone Flick Fest

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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Ref 3 FilmInk is a press release. Ref 7 Sydney Times is a portion of same. Ref 5 Filmink is PR from MINA, a partner. Mentions in articles about films that showed there is trivial coverage. Notability is not inherited from their ambassadors. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose It is indeed notable, going from strength to strength, and has some big names associated with it. Films made on mobile phones are becoming more common. It is possible and even likely that at least some of the emerging filmmakers who feature in this festival will go on to become major filmmakers in the future. As you can see, I have added more detail and many more citations since the deletion was proposed. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well... keep in mind that coverage is going to be what establishes notability here. The festival may have big names associated with it, but that notability won't be inherited. I've found what often establishes notability are things like say, Variety writing about the competition.

At first glance what stands out is that a lot of the sourcing is either a press release or heavily based on one. For example, this FilmInk source looks to be either a full reprint of a press release or so closely reworded that it might as well be one. This one by The South Sydney Herald is a local paper covering local people. The issue with local sources is that it's so routine for local papers to cover "local person does good" that it can be seen as kind of weak (at best) or even routine. Then there's this from IF Magazine, which is a routine database event listing.

Right now the page is so crammed full of press releases, routine announcements, and local coverage that it's difficult to pick out exactly what can be used to establish notability. I'm going to do a rundown of the sources on the AfD talk page, as there are so many. I'm not saying that this can't be notable, just that right now it's so stuffed full of unusable and weak sources that it comes across like it's not. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Left a very long note on the talk page. Most of the sources aren't usable and are used to back up very faint claims of notability. There are some potentially usable sources, but there are none that are really solid, slam dunk sources. My recommendation here is to reduce the page to just the basics, using the sources that seem decent, and then judge notability based on that. There's so much unintentional WP:PUFFERY in the article that it really does make this seem non-notable at first glance. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 21:12, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Forever's End

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Non notable ~~artist~~ film. Primary sourced promotion lacking coverage in independent reliable sources. Closest it gets is an interview with the director in a PRNEWSWIRE feed. No sign of any independent reviews, eg. Prod removed giving no helpful reason. (previous afd was for different subject) duffbeerforme (talk) 08:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I see nothing about this film, the name hits in Gbooks [7], but nothing about a film. AFFM Magazine is the closest to a RS we have, the rest aren't helpful (primary or non-RS). We don't have enough about this film. Oaktree b (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The sourcing isn't the greatest. I found a review from Film Threat. AMFM seems like they're probably OK - they're used as a source in this Taylor & Francis book as well as books from Palgrave Macmillan UK and Bloomsbury. It's been kind of difficult searching for verification on them due to their name throwing up a bunch of false positives, though. They've interviewed some pretty major people, one of which was highlighted by Blabbermouth, which I think is a RS on here, which is a good sign. The Fancine award isn't major enough to give total notability, but I think it would likely contribute towards it. With the two reviews, Fancine award, and some light coverage, I think this squeaks by NFILM. Not the strongest keep, but an OK one. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Shoot, I think the film was submitted through FT's review program and if so, that would make that unusable. Can anyone verify that? I am still leaning towards a weak keep based on the review and award, but it's tentative. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Film Threat explicitly states "This film was submitted for review through our Submission for Review system." So, yes, unusable. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Film Threat and AMFM reviews are reliable sources and that makes this pass WP:NFILM DonaldD23 talk to me 01:25, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Looking at the state of the source at the time of the above article, The problem is AMFM partners with PRNewswire with no indication of how and I see no sign of their editorial staff. What's PR and what's not? And where is their staff of writers, did they have anyone other than Bears Fonte? And this individual article, whilst filed in Movie Reviews, is actually an interview with the director so largely primary. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's changed since then but it still looks like they have only one writer. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:07, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point. I didn't see that - I'm striking my argument. I'm going to see if there's a place to redirect this. It doesn't seem like it was classified as a horror film so List of horror films of 2013 isn't really a good fit. Dread Central is the only RS I've seen use the term horror, but I am hesitant to call this horror without the director/crew describing it as such. It looks like it was one of those films that never wanted to align itself with horror exactly and preferred to say it was more a drama or thriller. Maybe List_of_thriller_films_of_the_2010s#2013? There's the more general page of List of American films of 2013, but I've never had any sort of confirmation as to whether or not we can include non-notable films there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:56, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment as article creator: This film (note: this is not an artist as per the nomination statement) is what we can consider "bubbling–under" notability. It has a singular notable cast member and has screened at the Austin Film Festival but not after five years. The director and other lead actress faded from existence, and no critical reviews at RT. I wrote the article after seeing the film, on Amazon IIRC, so considered it noteworthy enough if they streamed it.

Note to nominator: please be civil by notifying article creators when nominating anything at an XFD.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 17:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When I went back the next day I saw that a bot had notified you so I left it like that, but my apologies for not notifying you earlier. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Park City Film Music Festival

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Non notable festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. (as noted in prod "article was created by an account whose sole purpose was to create articles to promote a film-maker who won an award at this festival." duffbeerforme (talk) 08:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Virgin Spring Cinefest

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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. Mentions in articles about films is trivial coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oruvattam Koodi

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Fails WP:NFILM. No reliable reviews, poster release is not significant. No significant coverage, other than what is on the page, there is nothing online especially in English. Redirect to Chillu#Soundtrack, which has a song of the same name. DareshMohan (talk) 20:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails NFILM.Jitendra indulkar (talk) 09:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Thank you for the source analysis table. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:56, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dummycrats

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The only source in the article is a dubiously reliable blog and I was unable to find any actual coverage of the film. Fails WP:NFILM. मल्ल (talk) 02:36, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Nichols, Alex (2018-11-27). "Diamond and Silk run the most obvious con on the right: The Fox News duo stars in 'Dummycrats,' a new and terrible documentary". The Outline. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.
  The article notes: "And so we get the documentary Dummycrats, which was released in theaters for one day on October 16 and is now available for rent ($9.99) or purchase ($19.99) on Vimeo. (Many of the comments on Vimeo are from senior citizens who thought they were getting a DVD and are bewildered by the concept of watching a movie on the computer, but hey — they already bought it.) ... There’s really no reason not to produce one of these amateurish documentaries if you have the ability to; the peculiarities of conservative audiences make it all but impossible to disappoint them. The film’s producer, director, and writer, Kyle Olson, runs the third-string fake news website The American Mirror and is even lazier than Dinesh D’Souza when it comes to filming original content. Given that this was Olson’s first time working on a movie, I would normally be inclined to cut him some slack, but he truly pushes the limits of directorial incompetence. Dummycrats, which is 77 minutes long, opens with an astounding 27 minutes of archival footage. This lengthy segment begins with past Diamond and Silk TV spots and Trump rally appearances and then segues into a clip show of every Democratic gaffe since 1990, set to wacky circus music. You can watch all these on YouTube in higher resolutions than the deep-fried versions used in Dummycrats, but that sort of thing only matters to audiences with an average age younger than 85."
2. Penrice, Ronda Racha (2018-10-23). "From Diamond and Silk to Kanye West: Why Republican efforts to convert black voters are failing". NBC News. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.
  The article notes: "How else to explain the new Diamond and Silk movie “Dummycrats,” which had its one-day theatrical release last week? Far from Oscar fodder, or even the MTV awards, the film is part of a broader, recent trend in which mostly white conservatives have sought out and elevated a series of black surrogates, hoping that these surrogates' often unintelligible, anti-liberal rantings will siphon black voters away from the Democratic Party. ... That support undoubtedly is also why Diamond and Silk now have their own movie, “Dummycrats.” The full-length film was theatrically released for one night only on October 15, but can now be screened on Vimeo. Waters and fellow Democrat Rep. Nancy Pelosi are the film’s biggest targets. While mostly unnoticed by the mainstream press, “Dummycrats” did get a few positive reviews in more conservative corners of the web. Writing for the conservative site Newsmax, Michael Clark claimed the film would “wake-up undecided voters.” Clark applauds the film’s lighter tone and lists what he sees as its best moments — moments that of course “expose” prominent Democrats."
3. Levine, Jon (2018-09-28). "Diamond and Silk Release Trailer for 'Dummycrats' Movie: 'Two Unlikely Heroes' (Video)". TheWrap. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.
  The article notes: "Diamond and Silk have released a teaser trailer for their new film “Dummycrats,” offering a few more clues as to what people can expect when it is released next month. ... The minute-long trailer is a mix of b-roll of Democratic politicians looking silly and the duo shouting at someone off camera. An earlier teaser released by the pair suggested that the film will take the form of a Michael Moore documentary. ... The latest trailer says the film will premiere on Oct. 15, a month later than an original September release date floated three months ago. The film was slated to debut in Palm Beach, Florida — home of Trump’s Mar-A-Lago estate."
4. Less significant coverage:
  1. Wolcott, James (2019-02-06). "James Wolcott on the Shelf Life of a Deplorable". Vanity Fair. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.
    The article notes: "Some acts, like femme duo Diamond and Silk—whose 2018 documentary Dummycrats is clotted with YouTube clips of the two appearing at Trump events before launching into a prolonged, futile campaign to confront Maxine Waters on camera—seem to be perpetually auditioning for reality TV."
  2. Egan, Paul (2022-08-03). "Who is Tudor Dixon? 4 things to know about Michigan's GOP nominee for governor". Detroit Free Press. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.
    The article notes: "A company co-owned by Dixon was a producer of the 2018 film "Dummycrats." The "documentary" attack on former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and longtime California congresswoman Maxine Waters, also a Democrat, featured Black conservative political activist sisters "Diamond and Silk." The film was written and directed by Kyle Olson ..."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Dummycrats to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As has been my practice, I won't big along with a keep unless the sources found are added to the article in context. Bearian (talk) 03:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DIY DonaldD23 talk to me 01:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP per sources listed above by Cunard DonaldD23 talk to me 01:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Source assessment table prepared by User:मल्ल
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Dummycrats the Movie^[usurped]	About self			✘ No
The American Mirror: Tonight: See 'Dummycrats'- a movie calling Dems to task 'in manner no one in mainstream media would ever dare'	Publication owned by producer of the film	The Outline describes it as a "third-string fake news website"	Short press release	✘ No
Nichols, Alex (2018-11-27). "Diamond and Silk run the most obvious con on the right: The Fox News duo stars in 'Dummycrats,' a new and terrible documentary". The Outline. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.			Source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
Levine, Jon (2018-09-28). "Diamond and Silk Release Trailer for 'Dummycrats' Movie: 'Two Unlikely Heroes' (Video)". TheWrap. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.			~ Limited scope	~ Partial
Penrice, Ronda Racha (2018-10-23). "From Diamond and Silk to Kanye West: Why Republican efforts to convert black voters are failing". NBC News. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.			~ Limited scope	~ Partial
Wolcott, James (2019-02-06). "James Wolcott on the Shelf Life of a Deplorable". Vanity Fair. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.			~ The article mentions the subject briefly, but does not offer much detail	~ Partial
Egan, Paul (2022-08-03). "Who is Tudor Dixon? 4 things to know about Michigan's GOP nominee for governor". Detroit Free Press. Archived from the original on 2025-05-19. Retrieved 2025-05-19.			~ The article mentions the subject briefly, but does not offer much detail	~ Partial
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मल्ल (talk) 03:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first time doing a source assess table so apologies if I've done it incorrectly. मल्ल (talk) 03:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I consider the articles in The Outline and NBC News to "addres[s] the topic directly and in detail" (quoting from Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline). Cunard (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Sonic the Hedgehog 2#Reception. I'm not sure that this is the best Merge target article but it was the only one identified by participants. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:24, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stobotnik

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I was made aware of this article when I was notified it linked to an article of mine. I find it to be non-notable, with only The Mary Sue article and the ComingSoon.net interview as sources for establishing notability (probably for the former, as it doesn't dive into fan works much). The Washington Post article doesn't provide WP:SIGNIFICANT coverage in my view. The Anthem Magazine interview does cover the relationship between the characters in the stories, but not the fan ship, and the Toronto Star article barely covers the relationship itself, as does the the IGN article. The Kotaku article cannot be used at all due to Kotaku articles written since 2023 having been declared unreliable. The rest of the sources are WP:VALNET sources, which cannot be used to establish notability. Google News searches for "stobotnik", "stone x robotnik", and "robotnik x stone" only brought up some of the prior sources, Valnet sources, and an interview that doesn't cover the fan ship (from reading the automatically-generated transcript). ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 17:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect if a suitable target is found. Setting aside the reliability of sources (sad to learn Kotaku went to the dogs, didn't know...), I don't see how WP:SIGCOV is met. Not a single cited source uses "Stobotnik" in it's heading. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect per Piotrus. This doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV without more sources that directly cover the topic in detail. I'm open to redirects, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to, hmm, I guess Sonic the Hedgehog 2#Reception. Even the nomination acknowledges that there is treatment in reliable secondary sources. If these are considered too little coverage to establish stand-alone notability, WP:ATD-M and WP:GNG's If a topic does not meet these criteria but still has some verifiable facts, it might nonetheless be useful to discuss it within another article apply. A pure redirect would of limited use, as the topic to my knowledge is not yet discussed elsewhere. Daranios (talk) 15:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Thanks to the nominator for spelling out the results of her WP:BEFORE search. That often does not happen in a deletion nomination but is very helpful. Daranios (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Significant coverage can indicate an cultural trend is presumably notable, but when the trend itself is not defined by the term used, is so shallow and inextricably tied to a broader property, then no coverage really justifies an article. On merging - why not? It's not like there's much here to merge anyway. It should be easy to import a single sentence - Fan reactions to the evolving relationship between Agent Stone and Dr. Robotnik were favorable, prompting the creation of shipping and fanfiction that was acknowledged by Majdoub and Carrey. I wouldn't suggest this really merits any more than that. Otherwise, delete. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 11:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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