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Donald L. Ellixson, Jr.

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Non-notable American martial artist. Page is entirely promotional, does not include any reliable sources. Meets WP:PEACOCK. Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:SPORTSPERSON, WP:NACTOR. Cabrils (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Possibly could be kept but moved to draft space for significant revisions...Cabrils (talk) 02:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Panitan Budkaew

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This is a contested blank-and-redirect; I do not see any evidence that this actor passes WP:NACTOR, WP:NBIO or WP:GNG so I seek consensus to establish a redirect to his single role in a significant production: Duangjai Dhevaprom. There is no evidence that his other roles meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR. A source analysis finds that the sources are tabloid coverage that is not considered WP:SIGCOV per WP:SBST ([1], [2], [3]); are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS ([4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]); do not mention him ([15], [16]); are user-generated social media posts ([17], [18], [19], [20], [21]); or are dead links ([22]). None of the awards appear to be WP:ANYBIO#1-qualifying. Redirecting to his single notable role will leave the page history for future expansion should he become unambiguously notable in the future. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kevin Alexander Boon

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Autobiograpy of non notable filmmaker/academic. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards are not major. Previous PROD deletion. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete. I'm not seeing quite enough to satisfy WP:NCREATIVE. I found half a dozen reviews for a volume of essays that he edited [23] [24] [25] [26] [27], and one review each for two of his books [28] [29]. I wasn't able to find anything for any of his films. Based on those sources I think he falls just short of the bar for NCREATIVE, but could easily be swayed if anyone is able to find additional reviews of his works. MCE89 (talk) 16:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Antonsen

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Non notable filmmaker. WP:BLP1E, Got a little bit of feel good interview coverage (lacking independence) for being young but nothing sustained. Otherwise lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards are not major. Smells like UPE. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bash Luks (born ,1993)

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Half of these sources don't even exist, and the rest don't even mention this person. Outside I see nothing independent or reliable that suggests this meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 22:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete. Repost. duffbeerforme (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sad case of REFBOMBING; majorify of sources integrated into the article are unverified. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 06:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jason Burkart

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non notable actor, a minor role in a notable series, and otherwise unnamed and non-notable roles in other series, ranging from a background actor to completely unnamed background actor. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Last of Us, Once Upon a Time and Tell Me a Story: The Life of J.L. Tramel. Maybe be enough treasure to prove the person. Matthewhayana (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The notability of an actor is not established by listing roles, it's established by showing evidence that he has received WP:GNG-worthy coverage in reliable sources about him and his performances — i.e. newspaper articles about him, magazine articles about him, books about him, and on and so forth — but absolutely no GNG-building sources have been shown here whatsoever. Bearcat (talk) 02:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence of notability and poor quality sources. Barry Wom (talk) 09:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No in depth coverage as required for WP:GNG and regarding WP:NACTOR It seems all his roles were minor. --hroest

Tony Rotherham

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PROD'ed by User:NuanceQueen for the following reason;

Subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There are no secondary sources available; all the ones linked here are dead links. Article repeats language used on the subject's promotional websites, which suggests WP:BLPCOI issues. A previous WP:PROD was opposed by individuals with a personal connection to the subject who willfully misconstrued Wikipedia's anti-promotional rules. (proposed by NuanceQueen)

Article has previously been at AfD so cannot be Prodded but I wholeheartedly agree with the Prod nomination so listing here as courtesy. CoconutOctopus talk 20:20, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The last AfD for this article was 17 years ago, and since then little to no references have been added. Madeleine (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Simonna

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Promotional autobiography for notable actor and singer. None of here roles are good for NACTOR. No sign of any charting/gold/rotation/major awards for her music. Her Eurovision participation was only in qualifying, she did not make it to Eurovision. No major awards. Lacks coverage about her in independent reliable sources. (Whilst I call it an autobiography, multiple people (including her) are using the one account that contributed much of the content) duffbeerforme (talk) 08:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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John Bown

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Fails WP:NACTOR, WP:CREATIVE and WP:GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Veer Kataria

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Lacks notability. Not a single independent coverage about the subject. Few press release and rest are primary sources. Rahmatula786 (talk) 04:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- ~~Delete :~~ Lacks notability and seems he is impersonating someone.
- If this page gets deleted kindly delete his wikidata and igbo
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Delete Completely a non-notable article with no reliable news sources.Almandavi (talk) 05:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lacks notability, no reliable sources. Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 13:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nandy Movies

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Lacks notability. Given references are primary and not reliable neither gives significant coverage on the organization. Rahmatula786 (talk) 04:10, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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it is true that it lacks notability,but the reason for that is due to lack of reliable sources. I believe that this page should be moved to a draftspace rather than being deleted 117.231.224.23 (talk) 04:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No strong or independent news source is at the article.Almandavi (talk) 04:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest to delete this page because i could not able to draft it BengalMC (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You also made a mess attempting to do so. See WP:CIR.

Delete - Fails WP:NCORP. Was reviewing this prior to stepping away about an hour ago and came back to the draftify and redirect attempts. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Looks like you need to log in when editing. "They" requested speedy deletion of the draft, not the mainspace page. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:08, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete and do not close the AFD early as we will just wind up here again in a few days/weeks time. This isn't a notable org/company as indicated by the creator and we should stop wasting other editors time by forcing it into more unnecessary discussion when there is already one (this one, to be clear) happening. COOLIDICAE🕶 18:07, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Angadveer Surendranath

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Article nearly based on ETBrandEquity.com. His contributions to films Race 3 and 83 are as a second unit or assistant director, roles that typically do not confer notability per WP:NBIO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 11:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Though none of the reference used is notable but seeing the work, if possible then it needs to be fixed with notable news references.Almandavi (talk) 05:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinky Rajput

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All sources are unreliable. An article in Indian Express is dead link. Non notable. Afstromen (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This is an abandoned article which was created in 2012. Notability tag which was inserted in 2013 shows that there is no new coverage about the topic. But her work as a voice-dubbing artist is impressive. AndySailz (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete for now. I found that her work as a dubbing artist is good but there isn't any significant coverage about her in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This article lacks notable coverage, despite being working as a dubbing artist for a lot of work, and even the first citation of Indian Express is dead.Almandavi (talk) 05:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kishore Bhatt

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Absolutely non notable Afstromen (talk) 10:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Though his extensive career as a voice-dubbing artist but still fails to pass the notability standards due to the lack of significant coverage about him in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I concur that he has accomplished much as a voice-dubbing artist; yet, it still does not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - working dub actor, but ultimately run of the mill. Bearian (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It fails notability because no significant coverage in independent sources, not even a single organic news reference is there.Almandavi (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Babaria

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He has only one news source (Tribune). Filmography is totally unsourced. No significant news coverage. Afstromen (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails to show WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as well as WP:NACTOR. Fade258 (talk) 08:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Awana

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He doesn’t have significant news sources. His filmography is totally unsourced. Non notable in my point of view, please share your thoughts on this. Afstromen (talk) 10:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sneha Ajith

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Non notable actress/ dancer. Has acted in some blink and you miss roles in some movies. Does not have any references from notable sources and this page may be a part of a PR campaign to get some visibility. Jupitus Smart 02:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject - Sneha Ajith, has a notable role in movies like "Kshnama", "It happened that night" and "Anakku Enthinte Keda" where she is credited as one of the lead roles, references from IMBD and Times of India are linked below in the article which are credible sources. This article is not part of a PR campaign but just an effort tot document an upcoming actress in the Malayalam industry. The roles from above movies are not just blink and miss as she plays a lead role and this proves she is not just any background actress. Suggestions and sources that are verifiable are welcome to be included for strengthening and improving the article in question. Vshnprdp (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, i can not see any WP:SIGCOV. [30] This is an article about her performance which is performed along with the team. AndySailz (talk)

Gwen (singer)

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Fails WP:BANDMEMBER, no indication of notability outside of being in her group. orangesclub 🍊 00:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: per my argument to Maloi ROY is WAR Talk! 22:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Bini (group): Per my arguments at the Maloi AFD discussion. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 18:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "Gwen (singer)" is an appropriate redirect. There may have been several more notable singers named Gwen that are for more notable. Either this is kept (either as a standalone article or as a redirect assuming info on this article is not there at the main Bini article) or deleted, no redirects. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maloi

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Fails WP:BANDMEMBER, no evidence of notability outside her group. Page should go back to Maloi (disambiguation). orangesclub 🍊 00:20, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I think we can consider the discography of Maloi since she's had contribution on the song Kinikilig on Bini which is technically under WP:COMPOSER, there is also a single "Here With You" with Gwen under WP:SINGER and have a Filmography outside Bini which is Dilaw by Filipino singer Maki which is Maloi was a cast on the music video, she also appeared on "RomCom" by Filipino singer Rob Deniel. Also, Maloi have an interview with Vogue Philippines and it is still technically outside Bini. ROY is WAR Talk! 07:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COMPOSER describes writing a notable piece of work, not being one of five songwriters on a single b-side song that does not have an article itself nor did it reach any charts, let alone make any noticeable mark in later compositions. Also "Here with you" did not fulfil the WP:SINGER requirement of reaching any charts either. The interview with Vogue Philippines is a good start for her but WP:SINGER describes multiple, non-trivial, published works and this is a single interview. It's too early in her career to have an entire article for her. orangesclub 🍊 10:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not really too early, it can be expand the article in the future since the eight girls have some activities outside their group, not always but sometimes have activities have a own appearence like TV Show, Music Video, Magazine that sometimes are not covered here because of unreliable sources per guidelines of BLP. (Same argument to Gwen. There are many similar cases of BLPs are not qualified on WP:BANDMEMBER (like me as a page reviewer) but they are based on the WP:GNG to be more qualified and it can be expandable in the future that's why they don't want to nom in AfD. Also, the supporters know that the 8 separate articles and reading this article (also to Gwen that you nominate to AfD), and they promoting to read the wiki article. This is not Conflict of Interest or being a fan, i'm just neutral here and this is my observation that's why we don't touch this 8 article to nominate in AfD. As you can see in the history, July 24, 2024 to May 2, 2025 have significant improvement on the article.

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So, I don't think it'll succeed to the AfD (per my experience) but i'll leave to the some editors who wants to participate. ROY is WAR Talk! 22:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can see that the article has been expanded but still not enough to demonstrate her notability outside of being in her group. The point of WP:BANDMEMBER is that if you removed Bini, she has a single writing credit, a single non-charting soundtrack song and two music vidoes, and that wouldn't be enough to justify a non-Bini member having a dedicated article, so why would it be enough for her? orangesclub 🍊 22:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We've some BLPs Filipino girl groups that supposed not to be in the article like Charlotte Secretario, member of filipino girl group Kaia which is obviously tag as {{notability}} same as Katya Santos of Viva Hot Babes, a filipino pop music girl group. The bottom line that they are not basis on WP:BANDMEMBER it also applies on WP:GNG. If we always basis on WP:BANDMEMBER only and not GNG, some separate BLPs girl/boy groups that in this wikipedia will also in AfD, maybe a thousand articles will affected on that basis. Some of them separate are we are really don't care on WP:BANDMEMBER, as long as they are passed on WP:GNG then it is good or it can tag on notability in music instead of afd. ROY is WAR Talk! 03:22, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We're going in circles here, and I'm really not sure the relevance of these other articles you've shared. WP:BANDMEMBER means that if someone isn't individually meeting WP:GNG, being in a band doesn't cross them over the line. I still don't see how Maloi passes WP:GNG, WP:SINGER or WP:COMPOSER - being a member of a popular girl group isn't listed on any of those guidelines. orangesclub 🍊 04:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Katya Santos is an established actress on her own right. Her Viva Hot Babes stint was more of a side project for her. She gave credence (if you can call it that) to the Viva Hot Babes, not the other way around. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howard the Duck, D.18th, and AstrooKai: Pinging other users who were involved in this discussion at Talk:Bini (group)#Requested move 29 January 2025.
Delete: It doesn't take much for band member notability; just two-three elaborate facts about specifically their solo career (or career with more than one band/group). Like with Joey_Mazzola who has credits outside of Sponge and barely passes for notability. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 05:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Since I am one of the significant contributors to this group, I believe it is in the best interest of fairness that I refrain from participating in these AfDs to avoid perceived bias. I will leave the decision to the community and respect whatever outcome the nominations lead to. AstrooKai (Talk) 06:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Her "notability" is defined solely by being a member of Bini; beyond that, there's really not much else about her. At least each member of, say, the Spice Girls, is notable for other endeavours other than being a part of an all-girl pop group. For one, Victoria Beckham is well known not merely for being David Beckham's wife but also for her contributions to the fashion industry. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 09:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Akash Murali

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Fails WP:NACTOR: The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films. Only one film not multiple, no other films in production like the cast of The Archies. Being able to write about his family doesn't give an excuse for an article, as that information is in his brother Atharvaa and father Murali (Tamil actor)'s pages. All of this information about his career is covered in Nesippaya. DareshMohan (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect It's too soon, does not meet WP:NACTOR, and should be redirect to Nesippaya. Pasados (talk) 10:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kiranraj K.

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Repost of previously deleted and salted material: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiranraj K * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:28, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The subject has won awards though since the article was previously deleted. Mccapra (talk) 22:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The subject is clearly notable as per WP:NDIRECTOR criterion 4c, as being a director of 777 Charlie (which had significant critical reception), in addition to WP:ANYBIO criterion 1 as being a winning recipient of the National Film Awards just for 777 Charlie. As a side note, it would be beneficial for this source to be added to the article. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 09:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jorgito Jr Vargas

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Spam article (and close to qualifying for WP:G11 speedy deletion) on a non-notable actor who fails WP:BIO. A search for sources turned absolutely no usable sources that would contribute towards notability. The only source cited in the article at present is completely irrelevant to the subject. Java Hurricane 21:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, non-notable and unambiguously promotional. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 01:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Commment There was a slightly different version at Jorgito vargas jr (not created by the same author, but moved into the main space by them), which I've just A7/G11 speedied. I'm happy to nix this one as well, but won't yet just in case it is preferred to let the discussion run to its conclusion. (Needless to say, zero evidence of notability, in either version.) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DoubleGrazing, I'd prefer to let this AFD run its 7 days in case the article creators want to contest its deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TNT. Another instance where the creator obviously has never closely read a Wikipedia article. Bearian (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Full WP:PROMO. Svartner (talk) 20:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems like WP:PROMO, this is one of the sloppiest articles I have ever seen written. I would not be surprised if the person who the article is about was the one who wrote it. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ashish Kumar (actor)

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This article doesn’t have even a single source. I checked on google for this actor and there is not even a single reliable source available. Absolutely non notable in my point of view. Afstromen (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This unreferenced article indicates the weak references that do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma

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Filming has not yet begun, per WP:NFF BOVINEBOY2008 08:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Draft:Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma: This title was previously a redirect to Jane Schoenbrun until the redirect was overwritten with the move from Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma (film). The article should have been merged with the draft instead of being moved to overwrite the redirect. This article's content should be merged with the draft, along with a WP:HISTMERGE of the two, and then the redirect from this title to Schoenbrun's biography should be restored. Protect this title and any of its variants (which should likewise redirect to Schoenbrun) to prevent any further creation in mainspace until the draft is ready. silviaASH (inquire within) 08:59, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a sidenote, the film has actually in fact begun filming per Schoenbrun's Twitter account. However, as reliable secondary sources have not reported on the production at this time, the nominator is correct that the film should not currently have its own article. I would advocate an early WP:IAR close of this AfD to restore the appropriate status quo of redirection and implement the merge to the draft. silviaASH (inquire within) 09:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have boldly merged this article's content to the draft. silviaASH (inquire within) 09:11, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep, meets GNG and seems to be a semi-big budget film produced by Brad Pitt and starring Hannah Einbinder and Gillian Anderson. Not your typical run-of-the-mill slasher film. Maybe merge the best parts of the draft to this page. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:18, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There wasn't really that much in the draft to speak of. However if the article is kept I believe the draft history should be merged into the history of the mainspace article. Given the significant media attention afforded to Schoenbrun's previous success with I Saw the TV Glow, this film will definitely be worthy of an article, the question at hand in this AfD is whether or not it's WP:TOOSOON. silviaASH (inquire within) 13:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks SilviaASH. Since TOOSOON is an opinion essay, and this page is already GNG well-sourced as a film which is now actually filming and not in the idea stage, I felt a keep the better option. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : Filming had begun ^[1] --ProudWatermelon (talk) 22:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Liaan Ferreira

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This article has been flagged for multiple issues starting in November 2024 without improvement. Having performed a WP:BEFORE I an unable to find references that show that they pass WP:NACTOR. Awards are stated in the article as facts, most are unreferenced. I have examined 100% of the current references and find that none contribute to WP:V of WP:BIO, and I have flagged those I found wanting. My conclusion is that they are decent actor, but a jobbing, WP:ROTM actor, and that we are WP:TOOSOON in their career. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pucky Ali

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. His work is also non notable. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. I have checked on google for this actor and found nothing reliable. Afstromen (talk) 06:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The subject is not inherently notable by inheritance. Fails WP:NBIO. AndySailz (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable at all. Most online search results are about his brother Lucky Ali.Jitendra indulkar (talk) 16:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No indication that this actor is notable per Wikipedia criteria WP:GNG nor WP:NACTOR. Netherzone (talk) 16:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: An alternative to deletion would be to create a personal life section on the father's article (Mehmood (actor)) that covers his children and, of course, any other pertinent information that typically go in such sections. Then this could redirect there, along with any of the siblings, if they are not independently notable. Offhand it looks like Ginny Ali redirects to Ginny Aur Johnny, a film that Mehmood set up as a vehicle for her. And on a side note, the father's article needs some editing for tone - it's decidedly non-neutral, to say the least. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mehmood_(actor)#Personal_life. I've gone ahead and created that section and did a little pruning for tone - I removed some of the unsourced claims and some that were sourced to a site that the Indian film taskforce has judged as unusable. Offhand I'd recommend looking at the kids' pages - some of them didn't look much better. A few looked to have been in the same boat, where their main claim to fame was being his kids. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mere Smith

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Non-notable script-writer, fails WP:BIO

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Kris Millsap

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Fails WP:GNG. A behind-the-scenes film production worker doesn't get a lot of media notice. He's no exception. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. As I've already told the user before, both in their talk page and in another AfD, they must remember that this is a BLP, so the standards for sourcing are much more strict than the article observes, also. Coeusin (talk) 00:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandeep Bhargava

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Not a single source which talks about the subject to define his notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The subject does not pass WP:NBIO, WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Though the article of the profile seems to be notable but lacks reliable news references. hence notable citations needed.
Delete: [31] - 404, [32] - There is nothing to say about Sandeep, [33] - Why this article added as reference?, [34]- Same article as 'The Hindu'. I can't even see the subject's name in any citation. B-Factor (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The articles from Economic Times, Hollywood Reporter, The Hindu, and Financial Express are all legitimate and verified. However the links previously posted took the reader directly to the main home page of these news sources and not to the relevant article about Mr Sandeep Bhargava, leading to confusion. This has been fixed and the relevant articles with the accurate links have now been added. Kindly check. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:31, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:NOTCV. Charlie (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have fixed the article with the relevant and credible sources talking about Mr. Sandeep Bhargava. Kindly peruse. 202.72.225.101 (talk) 06:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have added relevant and verified sources and references, please note. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. While there is a consensus to Delete, there was reportedly a problem with links with the sourcing so I'm relisting in case this correction changes any arguments.
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Ho Yi

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Little established notability; sparse amount of sources available online or offline while article used to have iMDb as most sources. Subject edited own article, which has not been properly maintained to denote his significance and notability to be kept as an article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 06:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Ng, Hung 吳雄 (2015-07-14). "中學念本地左校黃浩義香港經歷文革" [Attended Local Leftist School in Secondary School: Wong Ho-yee Experienced Cultural Revolution in Hong Kong]. Hong Kong Economic Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-05-04. Retrieved 2025-05-04.
  The article notes: "香港「舞台劇之父」黃浩義長居上海，偶而回港為這片鄉土澆上一瓢清泉，其中一瓢是2013年8月拍成的電影《紅色的迴廊》（Red Passage）。奈何劇本早在2009年已寫好，先遇上資金、取景的困難，後遇上政治熱帶氣旋帶來的狂風暴雨，至今未有發行商願意放映。 ... 片中男主角從官校轉到左校，他就是黃浩義本人。... 結果，黃浩義去另一地方拍英國旗再把畫面合併。雖然拍攝在暑假進行，但傳媒竟找上門拜訪他。... 政治改變思想，思想改變命運，黃浩義中三就轉校，開涼茶舖的父親總算及時轉軚，才有了今天的舞台劇之父。"
  From Google Translate: "Hong Kong's 'Father of Stage Play' Wong Ho Yi has lived in Shanghai for a long time. He occasionally returns to Hong Kong to bring some fresh air to his hometown. One of his contributions was the movie 'Red Passage' which was made in August 2013. Unfortunately, the script was written as early as 2009, but it first encountered difficulties in funding and location selection, and then encountered the storm brought by the political tropical cyclone. So far, no distributor is willing to screen it. ... The protagonist in the film transferred from the official school to the left school, and he was Wong Ho Yi himself. ... As a result, Wong Ho Yi went to another place to take pictures of the British flag and then merged the images. Although the filming took place during the summer vacation, the media came to visit him. ... Politics changes thoughts, thoughts change destiny. Wong Ho Yi changed schools in Form 3, and his father, who ran a herbal tea shop, finally changed his mind in time, and he became the father of stage plays today."
2. Dong, Jin 董進 (2013-04-28). "香港舞台劇之父開創無厘頭風格后被周星馳借鑒" [Father of Hong Kong Stage Drama Pioneered Absurdist Style, Later Borrowed by Stephen Chow]. Chongqing Morning Post (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2016-11-10. Retrieved 2025-05-04 – via People's Daily.
  The article notes: "黃浩義1983年在港創辦香港青年劇團，成為第一代專業搞戲劇的。... 作為導演，黃浩義執導了不少優秀的舞台劇，而作為演員，黃浩義除了參演眾多港台劇，還在多部好萊塢電影中擔任角色，與布拉德·彼特(《間諜游戲》)、皮爾斯·布魯斯南（《007之擇日而亡》）都對過戲。聊起在好萊塢拍戲經歷，黃浩義很有感觸。"
  From Google Translate: "Wong founded the Hong Kong Youth Theater Company in Hong Kong in 1983, becoming the first generation of professional theater practitioners. ... As a director, Wong has directed many outstanding stage plays, and as an actor, Wong has appeared in many Hong Kong and Taiwan dramas, and has also played roles in several Hollywood films, starring with Brad Pitt ("Spy Game") and Pierce Brosnan ("007's Death"). When he talked about his experience of filming in Hollywood, Wong was very touched."
3. Sek, Kei 石琪 (2019-11-17). "粗口和紅色迴廊" [Profanity and the Red Corridor]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). p. S5.
  The article notes: "大家於是提及香港劇場，卅多年前最早把粗口引進「大雅之堂」，開路先鋒是黃浩義，一九八六年把美國著名粗口劇《美國水牛》翻譯演出，改名《鉤心鬥角》，台上猛講粵語粗口，大受青年學生歡迎，紛紛起哄，創下場場數特多的紀錄。... 黃浩義在香港劇壇的創舉不少，移居英國及上海也在演藝界創造一些先例。其實二○一四年他自編自導了一部很特別的香港獨立片《紅色的迴廊》，以他本身的少年經歷，描述七十年代初一個男生，因父親愛國，送他入香港左派中學，該校追隨大陸文革作風，念《毛語錄》，忠字舞，批批跳鬥，很「恐怖」。"
  From Google Translate: "Everyone then mentioned Hong Kong theatre, which was the first to introduce swear words into the "classical arena" more than 30 years ago. The pioneer was Wong Ho Yi, who translated and performed the famous American swear play "American Buffalo" in 1986, renamed it "Intrigue", and used Cantonese swear words on stage, which was very popular among young students. They all cheered and set a record for the number of performances. ... Wong Hoyi has made many innovations in the Hong Kong theatre scene, and his move to the UK and Shanghai also created some precedents in the entertainment industry. In fact, in 2014, he wrote and directed a very special Hong Kong independent film "Red Corridor", which was based on his own teenage experience and described a boy in the early 1970s who was sent to a leftist middle school in Hong Kong because of his patriotic father. The school followed the style of the Cultural Revolution in mainland China, reading "Quotations from Chairman Mao", doing the loyalty dance, and dancing criticisms. It was very "scary"."
4. Sek, Kei 石琪 (2014-11-15). "入讀左校的日子" [The Days of Enrolling in the Leftist School]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). p. D5.
  The article notes: "在「香港亞洲影展」看了黃浩義自編自導自製新片《紅色的迴廊》。黃浩義是本港資深話劇人，最具爭議性是廿多年前自導自演《勾心鬥角》，即美國著名粗口劇《美國水牛》的粵語版，大講粵語粗口，多次重演都滿座，成為本港舞台爆粗的先驅。隨後他的獨立電影《雷雨》改編曹禺名劇，涉及性問題也有爭議，但票房失利。"
  From Google Translate: "I watched the new film "Red Corridor" written, directed and produced by Wong Hoyi at the "Hong Kong Asian Film Festival". Wong Hoyi is a senior dramatist in Hong Kong. His most controversial work is "Intrigue" which he directed and starred in more than 20 years ago. It is the Cantonese version of the famous American foul-mouthed play "American Buffalo". He used a lot of Cantonese foul language and the theaters were always full during many re-performances, making him a pioneer of swearing on the Hong Kong stage. His subsequent independent film Thunderstorm, adapted from Cao Yu's famous play, also controversially dealt with sexual issues, but failed at the box office."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Wong Ho Yi (traditional Chinese: 黃浩義; simplified Chinese: 黄浩义) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 07:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 07:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep: per sources provided by Cunard; hopefully these references can be placed in the article during or following the discussion as right now there are still quite a few unreferenced passages. -- Recon rabbit 17:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsay Merrithew

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:NBUSINESSPERSON. His film and TV credits are not particularly significant and his company is unnotable. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep I think this is the same actor whose performance is discussed here and here. Together with the rest of the articles, the Globe and Mail article I think an overall picture of just passing the GNG emerges. --hroest 20:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Elise Allen

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Not convinced this person is notable. Yes she wrote a "New York Times bestseller", but even for that the primary reason it was a bestseller was because she coauthored it with Hilary Duff, and it seems likely many people bought it because they were fans of Duff – essentially ghostwriting in the open. She created some children's TV shows – even if those shows are notable, I don't think that necessarily makes her notable by extension. Note this article was already deleted per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elise_Allen in Feb 2020 but then recreated roughly 10 months later – and I'm not sure if anything had really changed between its deletion and its recreation. SomethingForDeletion (talk) 00:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I suppose the Emmy nomination could be notable, but all we have for sourcing is a list with a name. I can't find sourcing about this person, so not enough for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Commenting as this is reaching the end of a week of AfD - I have so far found coverage of her and another book she wrote, The Traveling Marathoner (Fodor, 2006). That could certainly be added to the article. I'll see what else I can find. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added reviews of her books - not just those she co-authored, but there are multiple reviews for Populazzi (which has a WP article) and Twinchantment (which doesn't yet, but should). It looks like her book The Traveling Marathoner also had multiple reviews - I have added one, one in the Chicago Tribune is paywalled [35], and the Los Angeles Times says [36] that "For summer reading, Runner’s World recommended “The Traveling Marathoner: A Complete Guide to Top U.S. Races and Sightseeing on the Run.” So she meets WP:AUTHOR, even without considering her significant contributions (as developer, producer, co-creator, writer) to Princess Power, Rainbow High, Gabby Duran and the Unsittables, Rainbow Rangers, and multiple Barbie movies. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which aspect of WP:AUTHOR do you think is fulfilled? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:30, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Criterion 3: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Plenty of coverage on the things she wrote, but there isn't significant coverage of the subject in reliable independent sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per RebeccaGreen. Meets NAUTHOR3 and 4(c). Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with RebeccaGreen and others that the article passes notability via WP:NAUTHOR #3 with multiple reviews in independent reliable secondary sources for the subject's books. Nnev66 (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stacey Gabriel (actress)

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This article does not meet WP:GNG. There is no evidence of significant, independent coverage from reliable sources to establish a lasting impact in the field. Most references appear to be minor news snippets, social media, or self-published material, which do not qualify as substantial verification under Wikipedia's standards. Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 13:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Your claims are demonstrably false. Reverse this unjustified nomination for deletion. You have claimed multiple falsehoods which are against the Community Guidelines of Wikipedia.

To clarify:

List of nationally and internationally distributed news organizations referenced in the article:

- The Inquirer.net

- The Philippine Star

- ABS-CBN News

- the Manila Bulletin

- Mega magazine

- Philstar.com

- PEP. Ph

All sources explicitly note Stacey Gabriel and her notable activities.

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Meanwhile your claims of "self published" material being used is false. Note an example of it or kindly retract your false claim. If you cannot back up this claim, nor retract it, your submission will be flagged as an abuse of Wikipedia policy.

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"Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition"

Multiple independent sources outline dozens of TV series episodes Stacey participated in, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant.

Are these not notable?

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"social media"

There are no social media references in this article.

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Given no evidence to support this unjustified action, reverse this flagrantly unjustified and deceptive nomination for deletion. Mickfir (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Mickfir (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Dear @Mickfir,

I want to clarify that the nomination was made in good faith, based on a review of the article’s current sourcing and in line with WP:GNG and WP:BIO some of the listed sources are reliable, and this Afd only for english version. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why include false claims that social media and self published material was used as references? There is not a single referenced source that was self published nor any reference to social media. This is a harmful oversight at best and deliberately deceptive at worst.

As for notability... I repeat, dozens of interdependently verified TV Episode performances and multiple national pageants including Miss Universe Philippines as 1st Runner-up. Mickfir (talk) 17:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let me check! WP:AFD is not only for deletion it's a basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia. Many contributors will review it and vote, so there's no need to panic just let the contributors decide.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Let me check" ? You nominated this article for deletion without even checking if the claims you are making against it are true?

Perhaps this article is worth a read: Wikipedia:Don't lie

"basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia"

No. Wikipedia best practice clearly indicates that if an article has areas for improvement, the 'Talk' page should be used to suggest edits, or you make the edits yourself.

Nominating an article for deletion based on false claims is a flagrant abuse of Wikipedia recommended practice. Mickfir (talk) 10:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Sources like ABS-CBN News, The Philippine Star, Manila Bulletin, and others mentioned by Mickfir are reliable. But some, like IMDb, aren't and should be removed. — doclys (❀) 18:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Most of the claims made by @S-Aura about incorrect sourcing were false - made without even checking them first. The IMDb references have been removed as per the advice @Doclys Mickfir (talk) 10:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Miss_Universe_Philippines_2024. Not seeing her being notable. She did not win the pageant and her acting career does not look like enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we have another skim reader. Shame the wiki community is so full of them. May I respectfully remind the administrator assessing this that this very nomination for deletion was made under false pretenses of nonexistent social media and self published citations. There are none.
Multiple independent sources outline over a dozen TV series episodes Stacey participated in with national distribution, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant. This, in addition to a nationally recognized prison ministry program.

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Note to admin: the comments justifying the original nomination for deletion by @S-Aura contain false claims about the citations of the article. Not only does this invalidate the original AfD nomination but the community members that utilize false claims should be cautioned by admins.

Summary:

Claim: "Most references appear to be ... social media, or self-published material,"

Reality: there were never any such citations. All citations are from nationally, and in some cases internationally distributed news organizations.

This AfD discussion was raised under false pretenses and should therefor be retracted. AfD nominations should not be justified by outright falsehoods. Mickfir (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, No personal attacks WP:NPA.

Thankyou! 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 11:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Highlighting that you justified this AfD by making false claims is not a personal attack. Your claims are either correct or false. There is nothing personal. Just accountability. May I ask why you chose to include false information in your AfD nomination? Is not the Wikipedia Community dependent on telling the truth? Wikipedia:Don't lie

Or can you list which citation was from "social media" or "self published"?

There was clearly no such faulty citations. Mickfir (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Kiley

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Non-notable musical theatre actor. There are online reviews for a few things he has been featured in (for example, a Jack and the Beanstalk pantomime), but most results are just passing mentions in casting annoucements etc - there was also an article he wrote for The Independent about Alan Turing getting put on a new banknote.

In other words, no significant secondary coverage. Leonstojka (talk) 12:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Guildford School of Acting I think Leonstojka (talk) 09:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm at weak keep at this moment. I did a fair amount of editing of the article and added more recent information along with references. So far I have found one solid review and other brief ones. He seems to be mainly doing musical theater now, and I will keep looking for sources. There are more sources that could feed into the article in the sense of comments by reviewers, if that would help. I'd like to hear what others think at this point, before I put more time in. Lamona (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Khumar Gadimova

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This article does not yet appear to be notable for English Wikipedia Insufficient Sources, and the topic may not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 02:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Khumar Gadimova is a well-known figure in Azerbaijani pop music and is widely recognized by the public in the country. Her artistic career has been covered by numerous reliable and independent sources such as APA, AzərTAc, Musavat, and Report. She has been active in the music industry since the 1990s, performing solo concerts, with her songs broadcast on national television and radio, and has participated in several state-level events.

The article is based on verifiable and independent sources, and the subject clearly meets the notability criteria due to her impact on Azerbaijani culture and public recognition. For these reasons, I oppose the deletion of the article and recommend that it be kept.Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 10:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Being selected as an 'Honored artist' by the Azerbaijan government should be enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. I found sources stating this, but all are in Azerbaijani and I'm not sure if they're reliable enough.[37] [38] — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The official website of the President of the country has reported on this. Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw it. But independent, reliable sources are needed, and that is a primary source, which is not great. Are there others? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.bakupost.az/xumar-qedimovaya-emekdar-artist-oldu https://mia.az/mobil/1075536 https://rublika.az/index.php?newsid=22845 https://etikxeber.az/xumar-q%C9%99dimova-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-oldu/ https://hit.az/az/senet/264643/emekdar-artist-konserte-hazirlasir/ https://musavat.com/ru/mobile/news/bacisi-xumar-qedimova-emekdar-artist-olmasindan-xebersizdir_420423.html https://www.gununsesi.info/xumar-q%C9%99dimovaya-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-adi-verildi/ https://baku.ws/show-business/xumar-qdimovaya-mkdar-artist-ad-verildi-srncam https://azxeber.com/az/emekdar-artist-turkiyede-trend-oldu/maqazin/ https://news24.az/180697-emekdar-artist-sevenlerine-seslendi.html Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are those independent, reliable sources? Linkbombing is not enough for a discussion. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The most reliable source. The country's president's own official website Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : Being selected as an 'Honored artist' by the Azerbaijani government, which is a national level recognition, is enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marc Coppola (actor)

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this actor and DJ with notable relations. I can't find any significant coverage in independent sources to add. There are passing mentions verifying some of his roles. I do not think he meets WP:NACTOR, WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. Redirect to Coppola family might work. Tacyarg (talk) 23:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, why would you want to delete Marc Coppola's Wikipedia page but leave the other Marc Coppola up.

Marc is a 50 year veteran of NY city radio and would be the next oldest living male member next to his uncle Francis Coppola. Meaning he would also be the next Patriarch of the Coppola Family. Are you also considering deletion of his brother Christopher Coppola. Or his Father August Coppola? Why the attack on Marc? And all of a sudden?

Please explain. I would appreciate it and so would the Coppola Family to leave families members up. Jocristy (talk) 00:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to one of the Coppola articles, perhaps Nicolas Cage. In answer to the question above, Wikipedia exists on reliable sourcing to verify its content. Not all sourcing is considered reliable. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. On Wikipedia, Reliability is not inherited. I have spent a lot of time today trying to find what Wikipedia considers reliable source for this individual, and I only found two such sources. There needs to be more. — Maile (talk) 01:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment (as nominator). I have undone the addition of the text Isn't IMDB.com a reliable source? At least for the movies listed in the article to the top of this discussion, and asked the editor, Jocristy, to add it to the end of this discussion instead; this is because it had overwritten my original reason for nomination, which appears in the article for people with xfd helper installed. Tacyarg (talk) 00:29, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't mean to overwrite. Accident. But I'm trying to put in sources that should be reliable. Jocristy (talk) 00:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't IMDB.Com be a reliable source, at least to verify the movie and tv credits? https://www.imdb.com/find/?q=marc%20coppola&ref_=nv_sr_sm And I found this recent article: https://www.thelist.com/1752088/francis-ford-coppola-nepo-baby-network/ Jocristy (talk) 00:38, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No IMDB is not a reliable source apart from a few cases see WP:IMDB. KylieTastic (talk) 16:50, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb depends on user-submitted information (I know, I've submitted credits) and the info is not confirmed. The people who claim it is confirmed are those folks who want to use it as a reliable source (call it wishful thinking) because you won't find this claim anywhere on the website. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Distant second choice: redirect to Coppola family. Being related to famous Coppolas doesn't qualify him for an article per WP:NOTINHERITED. IMDb, I have found, is pretty reliable (not 100%, but close) as to credits, but that's a red herring. Minor roles don't establish notability, and I don't see any major ones. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:18, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Hiestand (actor)

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Prolific actor, but no major roles as far as I can see, so he fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. He was in some major films, such as The Pride of the Yankees and The Day the Earth Stood Still, but uncredited, as he was in most of his filmography. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment He is mentioned in a lot of Wikipedia articles]. Maybe there are some refs there that mention him? He seems to have been the announcer for a lot of radio shows in addition to his film/TV roles. I think he needs more investigation before deleting. See this, this, and this. Perhaps someone can search Newspapers.com? -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep - I just inserted the link to the : "AFI|Catalog". catalog.afi.com. Retrieved 16 May 2025. in the film section. This verifies 50 titles in Filmography that he actually made. That was easy to find, and John Hiestand appears to have been a prolific actor. Perhaps what throws people off is that in these older films, for all the actors, and are easy to overlook. In the case of Hiestand, his roles seemed to be as a radio announcer or commentator. Announcers/commentators were propelling the story lines, so they are vital in those old films. Someone else needs to find television or radio sourcing. Also, please click on Find Sources links at the bottom of the above deletion notice. Those will take you to more sourcing. There is no reason to delete this article. It just needs someone to search a little and add the sourcing. — Maile (talk) 04:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Rebuttal. Find sources shows he got passing mentions only, almost always for being a cast member; the most significant snippet seems to be in the book Animated Personalities, which says he pretended to be Walt Disney when Disney couldn't be there. "credits did not necessarily appear on screen" = uncredited, which means an actor didn't have a significant role. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I have spent the better part of the day researching on this individual. He is notable and his career spanned decades through screen, television and radio. And, yes, he did perform with the Kay Kyser band. I have done some of the sourcing, but it's now up to others. Anyone who wants to know more, is welcome to pick up the research and post it here. — Maile (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mehzeb Chowdhury

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Other than the sheer obnoxiousness of this article (which is just one long advert about why the subject is the most awesome and interesting man in the world), I'm not totally convinced it meets the notability criteria. Reasons below:

Many of the sources are just passing mentions, and they aren't always high quality (e.g. a casting website is used to support the claim he is an actor/filmmaker)
A previous editor has marked the article as relying too heavily on sources that may be closely related to the subject. I happen to agree, and the generally sycophantic nature of these articles is off-putting and undermines the case for notability (given his father is a prominent journalist, I wonder if he has some connections with The Daily Star, which is one of the main sources)
The big notability claim is his association with MABMAT, and while that is notable, I'm not sure it justifies Chowdhury having an article to himself. Furthermore, this article seems to credit Chowdhury as the sole inventor, whereas The Times was more balanced, indicating he led a team at Durham University that developed it [39]
As a researcher he has a low h-index [40]
An excessive number of claims rely on primary sources. A few claims aren't even verified (e.g. that he worked for Goal.com as a correspondent) Leonstojka (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep (creator) The nomination is strictly reliant on issues regarding the article. Issues regarding an article can be raised in its talk page or Wikiprojects' talk pages (I do agree it needs some touch, and I'm willing to do them once able, but that's irrelevant to an article's notability).
Just because an article is not up to the mark on some aspects, it does not become non-notable. Many of the sources are just passing mentions- not every source of an article need to be of high quality or of depth. An article fo shizz will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims.
There exist several sources (in Bengali as well) in and out of the article that definitely speak volume for this person's notability. X (talk) 21:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment 'An article fo shizz will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims' – Sure, but if we're establishing general notability it is best to have more than passing mentions, because lots of people are sometimes contacted by the media to provide comment for stories. I also have concerns about the promotional nature of some of the Bangladeshi sources (e.g. this one), which read like adulatory press releases. Leonstojka (talk) 13:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The article has enough RS about the subject (Wired, Digital trends, HuffPost, The Times) to pass WP:NBIO. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 02:54, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There are more features that are not cited in the article as well, such as this from Ice Today. There's coverage in Bengali too, with TV appearances, features in reputed mags such as The Diplomat and Newsweek where he is introduced as an expert. Overall, why'd a non-notable person get recurrent coverage throughout the years from big pubs. X (talk) 06:00, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Xoak is right. Somajyoti ✉ 20:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Notability is clear by the sources. Mifflefunt 03:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC) Striking !vote of blocked account who was here just to spam porn sites. MarioGom (talk) 16:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Which sources establish notability under WP:GNG? Is it this one from Business Standard? what else? I see many articles written by the subject, but I don't see reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 08:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article has refs from Wired, Digital trends, HuffPost and The Times, which are independent RS. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, the articles in The Times and Wired use Chowdhury as a source (as in "Chowdhury says", "he believes", "he told", "according to him"). What he says is not independent of him. Similarly, Digital Trends is an interview with him, so not independent of him. If they consulted any other sources, they don't say so. HuffPost does not contain significant coverage of him. None of these four do anything to help establish notability. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Worldbruce, These 4 aren't the only sources. Many sources exist about this individual (see the aforementioned points). A non-notable person does not get recurrent media coverage throughout the years (it may well be interviews, passing mentions, anything; he does have sig in-depth cov as well for the record). X (talk) 06:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Attempt at making a source assessment table. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table prepared by User:PacificDepths
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Ice Today https://icetoday.net/2024/03/building-blockbusters/	~ Not sure how to rate independence.	~ Not sure on reliability of this.	700 words about subject	~ Partial
Business Standard https://www.tbsnews.net/features/pursuit/he-modernised-crime-scene-investigation-making-movies-and-music-along-way-487946	~ Not sure how to rate independence: asked in Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#c-ActivelyDisinterested-20250516114100-PacificDepths-20250516083000	~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional?	Entire article is about subject.	~ Partial
Daily Star https://www.thedailystar.net/entertainment/tv-film/news/mehzeb-chowdhury-pioneer-criminology-savant-films-3147896	~ Some interview quotes. Not sure how to rate independence.	~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional?	Entire article is about subject.	~ Partial
Prothom Alo https://www.prothomalo.com/lifestyle/5uuxkcz9qu	~ Some interview quotes. Not sure how to rate independence.	~ Not sure on reliability of this. Promotional?	Entire article is about subject.	~ Partial
The Diplomat https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/can-the-bangladesh-police-recover/	Mostly an interview, primary source material	~ unknown	One sentence description of subject	✘ No
Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/body-farms-decomposing-bodies-forensic-science-murder-1798397	Mostly an interview, primary source material	~ Treat case by case basis per WP:NEWSWEEK	one sentence description and quote	✘ No
Jamuna TV Plus Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8x8r90VZE4	Interview: Primary source	~		✘ No
Wired https://www.wired.com/story/crime-scene-technology/	Interview		Little information about the subject	✘ No
The Times: "Robots will create virtual crime scenes for juries"	Primary source		One sentence about the subject	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

@PacificDepths Simply discarding sources labeled as "interviews" is flawed. These are features that include quotations and interview segments, as features inherently contain such elements. You cannot broadly dismiss them by merely labeling them as interviews. Claiming they "feel promotional" is your subjective opinion (these features have proper bylines and are not promo pieces, if so, they'd have been designated as such from these reputed pubs). Overall, I strongly disagree with this source analysis table. Additionally, several Bengali news sources, TV appearances, and passing mentions in reputable publications recognize him as a notable person or expert. Collectively, these demonstrate his notability. GNG is fo shizzle met here. X (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And by the way, common sense should prevail. The newsweek and diplomat sources were mentioned to demonstrate a point that this person also gets called out for their expert opinion, assessing and labeling these 2 as "One sentence description of subject" is utterly asinine, like of course these are passing mentions. And as I stated earlier, not every source of an article need to be entirely about the subject or of depth. An article will contain many sources that might just well be passing mentions, supporting the asserted claims. X (talk) 10:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've re-ordered the sources and edited some. I'm not sure how to judge Business Standard, Daily Star, ICE Today. I don't think The Times should demonstrate notability. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 05:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PacificDepths, and those who are unfamiliar, TBS, DS, Prothom Alo, Ice Today, these all are reputed and generally deemed reliable publications. X (talk) 07:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kiki Shepard

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I doubt the article meets the standards for notability. Gommeh ➡️ Talk to me 13:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Very much a WP:HEY candidate; being a co-host of a major syndicated show for fifteen years easily clinches WP:N and sourcing to get her over GNG should be very easy. Nathannah • 📮 19:03, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't find much coverage, this reads like a rewritten press release with no real author [41]. Gnewspapers brings up a similarly named individual on Broadway in the 1970s, I'm unsure if it's the same person. Oaktree b (talk) 21:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It actually is the same person. She performed in Broadway before her time on the Apollo. – The Grid (talk) 14:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There has to be newspaper or textbook sources, I'm just in disbelief there's limited sources. – The Grid (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The only sources I found are passing mentions or not reliable. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:54, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have added sourced content to the article. I invite editors to re-visit and possibly re-evaluate it. Eddie Blick (talk) 21:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great job, Teblick! I was getting there with internet sources but the newspaper sources definitely helped here. Keep per WP:HEY. – The Grid (talk) 12:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Grid, I'm glad that I could help. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Allin Kempthorne

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I've AFD'd this, but actually I think it should be redirected to Wriggler (video game). There doesn't appear to be any independent, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the subject of this article. Sourcing is all tabloid news (The Mirror, The Sun, Metro) or passing mentions. Simply appearing on BGT (and not being recognised...) does not indicate notability. Simply being a bit-part actor in numerous films does not indicate notability. Additionally I have WP:PROMO/WP:COI concerns here.

They wrote the ZX Spectrum game Wriggler together with their twin when they were at school, and this game is clearly notable, but nothing else they have done appears to be notable.

Also nominating The Vampires of Bloody Island for deletion (no need to redirect this), which is the film Allin Kempthorne created. The only coverage that could be found for this is blatantly promotional ("we were forced to bring forward the release of this film because of an email campaign that no-one but us is the source for existing") and from sources of dubious reliability. Simply being nominated for a Twitter Shorty Award does not indicate notability.

Similarly also Learning Hebrew for the same reasons.FOARP (talk) 07:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Arjun Ambati

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fails WP:NACTOR. Theroadislong (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe the article should be kept as Arjun Ambati is a notable figure in the Telugu film industry. He has a significant filmography, with key roles in well-known projects, and his work has been covered by various media outlets. Additionally, he has a Google Knowledge Panel, which is an indicator of recognition and notability in the public domain.

I am working on adding more reliable sources, including interviews and articles from established media, to strengthen the article. His contributions to the industry further demonstrate his standing and relevance.

Thank you for considering my input. Kanthrajmys (talk) 08:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Google knowledge panel does not mean anything in terms of notability at Wikipedia. --bonadea contributions talk 08:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – there is no coverage at all of him in independent sources, much less any significant coverage. --bonadea contributions talk 08:08, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback and for reviewing the article. I would like to gently highlight that Arjun Ambati has been covered by independent and reliable sources such as The Times of India, Eenadu, Sakshi, and Andhra Jyothy. His work in Telugu television and cinema has also been featured on platforms like Gemini TV and Telugu Filmnagar. While I understand that a Google Knowledge Panel alone doesn't establish notability, it does suggest public interest and recognition. I’m continuing to improve the article by adding more reliable sources.
Thanks again for your time and consideration. Kanthrajmys (talk) 08:44, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there are concerns about the sufficiency of the coverage, I am happy to move this article to the draft space and continue working on it. However, I believe the current available sources demonstrate significant notability for Arjun Ambati. His coverage in reputed national outlets, such as:
Pinkvilla (13 August 2021) - A review of Sundari, featuring his role.

The Times of India - Official trailer for Theppa Samudram.

IndiaTimes (31 July 2024) - Information on the OTT release of Theppa Samudram.

News18 - Announcement of his role in RC16.
These sources indicate notable attention from major national platforms, alongside his extensive career, including 10 films and numerous TV/web series.

If this is not sufficient for immediate approval, I am more than willing to move it to draft space and continue gathering additional sources or improving the article further. Kanthrajmys (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Times of India is not generally considered a reliable source and we need sources that cover him in depth, not passing mentions or listings. Theroadislong (talk) 10:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We have updated the references. All the articles mentioned include Arjun’s name in the headline itself, not just as a passing mention within the content. The sources cited include Deccan Chronicle, News18, Pinkvilla, Jagran, Telugu Times, India Times, and The Times of India.

Also, could you please clarify why The Times of India is not considered a reliable source? It is ranked third in terms of circulation among newspapers in India. Kanthrajmys (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Despite his modest role, it is evident that he has participated in numerous films, television series, and reality shows. However, there is an absence of significant coverage. Rajeev Gaur123 (talk)

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Thank you. We have improvised the article with more relevant references. Please review and share your feedback Kanthrajmys (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR. Charlie (talk) 17:46, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teng Lin

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This fails WP:NACTOR. All sources are none WP:RS Ednabrenze (talk) 07:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i've add links to biographical data, the sources can only be found in his own social media livestream as short drama actors info are in general lacking online. I've included the link and even the timestamp at which he mentioned those biographical data Laiwingnang (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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also want to mention such info are usually hard to come by because short drama actors are not signed to any publicist or angecies..so they don't have staff to register them with movie databases, fans have to get that info from their livestreams, from social media, but fact is short vertical dramas are highly popular in china with hundreds of millions views/social media engagement and are now being seen by millions on youtube/tiktok internationally through many drama apps, they are more relevant than many mainstream actors from china. Laiwingnang (talk) 13:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

added a reference for his short dramas, they are listed in a WeChat application named WeTrue. It's a market data research company used by short drama industry insiders...but it is a built in app inside china's wechat and requires a wechat app installation to access the data. A link to their www feed page is added, any link on that page will give you a link to the wetrue application, upon clicking the application link will launch the data application on wechat. Laiwingnang (talk) 10:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has he been profiled in any reliable sources such as newspapers or magazines? Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I did not find significant coverage in my searches for sources. I found a passing mention here and a self-published source here. Teng Lin (Chinese: 滕林) does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the industry used wechat app wetrue is a more reliable source than the ones you mentioned, it's the imdb for chinese short dramas. What you referenced are mainstream news outlet paid to write articles for agencies to hype up their stars. It's pay per play. Fact is Teng Lin is at 200k followers on china's douyin with an total of over 3 million likes and many chart topping popular short drama just in the last 12 months, many of the c-list musicians, actors who doesn't have a hit with next to no followers get to have a wikipage because their agency pumps articles about them and register them with all types of websites. China isn't America, they are not stuck in the www page age, apps like weTrue or dataeye are used by millions of drama fans and industry insiders for chart data and new releases. They are more reliable sources even if they aren't through http. They don't rely on www page that probably gets like 50 clicks. That's really an American thing. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

also want to mention, his short film trailers have millions of views on tiktok...he's not only relevant within, china, but also internationally. His recent dramas are getting subbed by kalostv, reelflicks, flicksreel and other drama apps and many are amongst the most watched short dramas internationally. Alot of activities are happening on apps , www news site gatekeeping pay per play is 2010s. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

spotify is on app, social media is on apps, netflix in on apps, in 2025, most of what the public consume is on apps, so should short drama apps like wetrue or dataeye be considered as legit sources as well Laiwingnang (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.52hrtt.com/ey/n/w/info/G1732591212530

if you want a www article, here's one...the first short drama awards and Teng Lin won one of the 3 actor awards. He's one of the top short drama actors , doesn't make him less relevant just because he doesn't have an agency to pay for written articles Laiwingnang (talk) 11:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

he's also on douban, china's imdb ....so googling might not show you results, but it's there

https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1563988/movies?sortby=time&format=pic&role=A1 Laiwingnang (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

here's another stock exchange listed entertainment info company https://ir-en.maoyan.com/ that has teng lin listed https://m.maoyan.com/asgard/celebrity/3071840

so it's not true that his info isn't on the internet, it's google's algo that isn't giving search results Laiwingnang (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This 52hrtt.com link mentions Teng Lin (Chinese: 滕林) on one line. I still don't see enough "significant coverage" in reliable sources to establish notability under Wikipedia's guidelines. Cunard (talk) 17:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://k.sina.com.cn/article_2345992875_8bd502ab00101fg96.html

here's a sina article about him ...

This is basically another promo article paid by the film company, he refuses to talk about his person life and family and he is not signed to any agency, so these types of promo articles only mention him because he's involved in their projects. Laiwingnang (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good find. I didn't find any evidence that the article was paid for by the film company. If it was paid for by the film company, then it wouldn't be considered an independent source so would not contribute to establishing notability. I agree that the article has limited biographical coverage about him as it's focused primarily on his appearance in the short drama and how netizens responded to that. Are there any other reliable sources like this that discuss him? Cunard (talk) 05:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
here's an article that mentioned another of him and his drama topping the charts...but not focused on him

https://www.toutiao.com/article/7458155280858923571/?wid=1747493850370

he's an article that mentioned many of his dramas and is full of pictures of him, but only mention his roles, but not the actor's name

https://k.sina.com.cn/article_5953466483_162dab07301901ce3q.html?from=ent&subch=oent

here's one where his female costar was interviewed and there's a mention of him, but as he doesn't do interviews and doesn't have an agent to force him to do publicity work. it's really hard to get any articles about him specifically and even when they write an article about him like in the article i provided earlier, he did not participate

https://news.sina.cn/gn/2025-01-26/detail-inehhkse0672369.d.html?from=wap Laiwingnang (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for providing these sources. I agree with your assessment that the first and third sources provide passing mentions of him, while the second source mentions only his role but not his name. Cunard (talk) 08:07, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
while him and his costar are on the same level of popularity, both around the same number of followers on social media, his frequent costar 鄔倩 has alot of articles online and willing to talk about her personal life and reveal her professional life. Unfortunately, Teng Lin is a private person who never deals with the press, so articles about him is limited. Laiwingnang (talk) 16:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete since it does not look like much coverage to establish a stand alone page. Lacks clear notability imo. Ramos1990 (talk) 01:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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