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Bit of a tricky one I think, given that it gets mentioned all the time, e.g., for their failed Georgia bid and it's considered a major vendor in the industry (see Axios, Engadget), but most of the more in-depth sources are the sort of WP:TRADESy sources that we would not typically consider to meet WP:ORGCRIT, for example InformationWeek / Dark Reading and Xconomy.

There are a couple of scholarly sources mentioning the company also, for example, Bernhard et al. (2019) and his later PhD thesis, Bernhard (2020), but I don't think it quite meets the criteria for depth of coverage. The best news source I found would probably be Washington Monthly, but again I don't think it quite meets the "directly and in-detail" threshold that we would need to write an article from it.

It would be a bit of a shame to have absolutely nothing on the company, but there are a few places where it is mentioned, so I figure I'd propose it as a redirect to Election audit § Ballot scans for 100% audits (given they're best known for their auditing software), or one of the other places where Numbersinstitute has added a mention. Any alternate proposals would also be appreciated! Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I concur with a redirect. kencf0618 (talk) 12:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Aviza

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The highest level the subject appears to have played was the third level of the American soccer pyramid. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 07:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ScaleBase

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An article on a start-up which was commercially active 2011-15. Two of the references are about obtaining investment, another is about ScaleArc, the firm which purchased the assets; these don't contribute to notability. Aside from 2 dead-link market reviews which presumably covered the firm's products, there is the bylined 2011 InformationWeek item, which I regard as start-up proposition coverage. I don't see the depth of coverage to demonstrate that this firm attained notability. AllyD (talk) 07:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pieter Lehrer

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Footballer from Antigua and Barbuda who only played at college level in the US. Fails in WP:GNG and WP:MILL. Svartner (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Non-notable athletic career, some primary coverage from the school for his coaching career, but anything in a non-primary source is thin.... [1] is the only non-primary source I found. Just not enough coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 19:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Harvard Crimson men's soccer#Historical head coaches. Giant Snowman 19:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong with this source (p2)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On re-review, there's probably enough there to keep. Giant Snowman 19:53, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: I still question the WP:MILL issue, It's very little for a footballer who only played at college level. Svartner (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Meets WP:SPORTBASIC through identified coverage. JTtheOG (talk) 23:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assaf Swissa

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Promotional article for an apparently non-notable businessperson. This article is built almost entirely on WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS (or in some cases non-mentions) in coverage of his client/business partner Julian Edelman ([2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12]). Other sources are coverage of Swissa's business that doesn't mention him ([13], [14], [15], [16]); WP:PRIMARYSOURCE Q&A interviews ([17], [18]); and student media from Swissa's alma mater and thus not independent ([19], [20]). My WP:BEFORE search turns up more of the same. I count only one article from the Boston Globe that gets close to independent WP:SIGCOV of Swissa, and we'd need to see more. I see no evidence of passing WP:NAUTHOR or any other applicable guidelines either. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve, or at least move to draft. I see coverage of Swissa in some other notable publications and Superdigital is quite well known. --FeldBum (talk) 23:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you share the WP:THREE best sources you think constitute independent WP:SIGCOV? Notability cannot be WP:INHERITED from Superdigital. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Boston Basketball Partners

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Non-notable holding company, notable only for its legal structure as the ownership entity of the Boston Celtics. Redirect to Boston Celtics as WP:ATD. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE business coverage. Longhornsg (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - can easily be merged into the Boston Celtics. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Gainer

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Local activist in Buffalo, New York. The creator of the page appears to be Michael Gainer or someone close to him, judging by the fact that all of their edits are on Gainer's page or related pages and that they uploaded this photo of him and tagged it as their own work. I don't see the argument for notability here. He doesn't seem to have gotten any in-depth news coverage of him as a person, even within Buffalo. There does seem to be a lot of coverage of the group he founded, Buffalo ReUse, so maybe that group could have a page, but not Gainer himself. Many of the articles about ReUse don't even mention Gainer. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 16:10, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I'm not affiliated with Gainer other than creating the article. Photograph is from my archive. I took care to make sure the article is well-sourced, so I'm not sure why you would question his notability. TheNewMinistry (talk) 16:17, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Also, please be aware that Democratic supporters tried to get the page for India Walton deleted as non-notable multiple times during the leadup to the 2021 Buffalo mayoral election, as she was the only progressive in the race. I feel Democratic supporters for Gainer's opponents might be trying to do the same here, as he is a viable candidate for the 2025 Buffalo mayoral election. TheNewMinistry (talk) 16:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, is this why you accused me of having a conflict of interest with zero evidence? LOL. Not everything is a big conspiracy, sometimes a person just isn't notable enough for a Wikipedia page. Do you have any evidence that "Democratic supporters" were trying to remove India Walton's page or is that just another conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up? BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 22:54, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are not engaging in good-faith, so I won't address you further. You can read the AFD logs for yourself. I've been here a lot longer than you, and unlike yourself I edit a broad range of topics.TheNewMinistry (talk) 23:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are seriously accusing BottleOfChocolateMilk of bad faith after you more or less accused them of being part of a conspiracy to? If you have no proof then that's like ANI-worthy levels of bad faith. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This comment comes from someone who is clearly referring to a separate matter where BottleOfChocolateMilk is being investigated for conflict of interest editing. He posted a link to this AFD page last night to initiate vote brigading. TheNewMinistry (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Neither DNC representative nor mayoral candidate passes WP:NPOL. Heavily refbombed making it difficult to determine whether any sources are sufficiently independent and in-depth to pass WP:GNG. The sources in the version I examined appear to be from non-independent publishers (1, 4, 8), non-in-depth campaign-related (2-3, 10, 36-44, 46-47), reliable news stories about other topics that mention Gainer but have no depth of coverage about him (5-7, 14, 31-33, 48-50, 52), interviews (non-independent in content despite publisher; 9, 15), not reliable (35, 45) or background material not about Gainer at all (16,51). Many of the sources are more about Buffalo ReUse than Gainer (11-13, 17-30, 34) and might support notability for Buffalo ReUse, in which case we could redirect to an article on it rather than outright deletion, but I don't think those sources have enough depth of coverage on Gainer himself to support an independent article. If the article creator is trying to promote mayoral candidates with a certain agenda, they should not be surprised when their articles are brought up for deletion, not because we are biased towards or against that agenda, but because Wikipedia has safeguards against promotionalism in general and NPOL is one of them. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Environmental historian Charles Lockwood identified and interviewed the top 25 global environmentalists for his 2009 book The Green Quotient: Insights from Leading Experts on Sustainability^[1]. He dedicated a chapter to interviewing Michael Gainer, and these are the other subjects he interviewed: Thomas L. Friedman, Ché Wall, William D. Browning, Christopher B. Leinberger, James Howard Kunstler, William McDonough, Björn Stigson, Jaime Lerner, Hank Dittmar, Elizabeth Economy, Rick Fedrizzi, Paul Hawken, Vivian Loftness, David Gottfried, Julian Darley, Robert S. Davis, Maria Atkinson, Ron Sims, Frances Beinecke, Mindy Lubber, Van Jones, Earl Blumenauer, and Cesar Ulises Trevino. Darley and Lubber pass WP:GNG, but Gainer does not? TheNewMinistry (talk) 19:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC) TheNewMinistry (talk) 19:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That was one of the sources I already considered, and classified as "more about Buffalo ReUse than Gainer". But per your comments here we can also classify it under "interviews (non-independent in content despite publisher)". Either way it does not contribute towards the sort of significant independent coverage of Gainer himself needed for WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:23, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To piggyback off David Eppstein's reply there's the obvious WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS policy answer, but the assertion made Gainer is one of the "top 25 environmentalists" would imply that Charles Lockwood was somehow a supreme authority overall via a book that fails N:BOOK. That's even more troubling when you take into account that 80% of the "top environmentalists of the world" are from the US and only 2 (Stigson and Trevino) of the 25 appear to have been operating from non-English speaking countries. I would also love to know how many of Lockwood's "top 25" were clients of his consulting business but a simple search hasn't been able to unearth anything. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Lockwood, Charles (2009). "The Green Quotient: Insights from Leading Experts on Sustainability". Internet Archive. pp. 171–178. ISBN 9780874201215. Retrieved May 23, 2025.

Delete Per David Eppstein's reasoning, although "DNC representative" is generous to take it lightly. He was elected as a member of his county's democratic committee by receiving a whopping 36 total votes in a party-specific election for one of at least 11 committee seats in his district. In general, mayoral candidates and especially primary candidates are considered non-notable. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Vote should be disregarded, as GPL93 admittedly came here from the COI Noticeboard where BottleOfChocolateMilk linked to this AFD[21] for purposes of vote brigading. TheNewMinistry (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

this is just sad BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TheNewMinistry I had no knowledge of the WP:COIN case against BottleOfChocolateMilk at the time of my comment and vote. Can you show me the specific proof? I actually found this AfD through a check of Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Pennsylvania. This is another personal attack BTW. Of course, if you think this is a true case of brigading you are obviously more than welcome to report me to ANI. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Proof? Sure, we have lots of that here:

GPL93 - Top Edits

You haven't made an edit off the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Pennsylvania page since September 17, 2024. Nice try. TheNewMinistry (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TheNewMinistry Holy Shit you're right! It's almost like I instead commented and voted on the previously listed actual AfD pages like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Md Amiruzzaman and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pennsylvania Young Democrats in the past month or so alone and it's not because I haven't started an AfD that needed to be categorized under Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Pennsylvania since then instead. It looks like the Admins have told you that ANI is where you need to file against BottleOfChocolateMilk at WP:ANI anyway, you can report me as well if you feel the need to. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Admin comment I have p-blocked TheNewMinistry from here and the article and warned them against disruption or the block would be broader. Star Mississippi 01:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samir Somaiya

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Not a notable manager and CEO. I don't see the sources to pass WP:Anybio. Cinder painter (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete doesn't have enough reliable sources. Darkm777 (talk) 02:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I can identify only one reference for consideration [22]. If you own any other substantial coverage, please provide it; I may be inclined to support a Keep. B-Factor (talk) 04:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable profile, Most of the coverage is non-reliable.Almandavi (talk) 05:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - looks like there's stuff out there if you search with google.co.in instead of google.com.^[23][24] --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete: He heads not only a business but also an eighty year old charitable organisation running several educational, healthcare organisations which are doing good work for the benefit of society and underprevilaged. Further, references give from Times of India, Economic Times, ThePrint, ANI, BusinessWorld and Indian Institute of Chemical Engineers are quite reliable. KhrushchevN (talk) 10:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to AfD guidelines, votes should be made by choosing one of these options, "Keep," "Delete," "Merge," "Redirect," or another relevant choice. Please avoid saying "Do not delete", Instead, use "Keep" to support keeping the article. Vikram S Pasari (talk) 10:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thanks KhrushchevN (talk) 07:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Do Not Delete:~~ I have furtrher developed the article with additional reliable references. KhrushchevN (talk) 05:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I agree with B-Factor and A. B.. There seems to be more information and sources available. . I believe the article can be improved. Let me try working on it to improve the article.--Vikram S Pasari (talk) 10:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – I have worked on improving the entire article by adding more relevant details and credible citations, have made sure it aligns well with WP's policies. The subject meets WP:ACADEMIC as he is the Chancellor of Somaiya Vidyavihar University and head of multiple educational institutions, which satisfies the guideline that states, "The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society." He also qualifies under WP:ANYBIO for receiving the Order of the Star of Italy, a major international honour. So, keep. --Vikram S Pasari (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To evaluate recent revisions to article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 11:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[b971-1] Lockwood, Charles (2009). "The Green Quotient: Insights from Leading Experts on Sustainability". Internet Archive. pp. 171–178. ISBN 9780874201215. Retrieved May 23, 2025.

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