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[edit]- CDC MarketFirst (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Entirely promotional and fails WP:NORG. Amigao (talk) 00:10, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment.@Amigao: MarketFirst is a software not a company. It's one of many software programs made by the CDC Software Corporation. WP:NORG only somewhat applies via WP:PRODUCT; but as we don't have an article on the company its not all that relevant to this discussion. WP:GNG is the standard for software programs. Note that many sources do not include CDC when referring to this program and just call it MarketFirst. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Here are a couple of book sources: [1], [2]. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:55, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Don't really see a valid reason to delete. Category:Marketing software indicates that articles on software are acceptable on Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 01:42, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:47, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - This is software seems has been through a few ownership changes from when it was a standalone company and clearly has been just a software package for the last 20 years. I recently updated the article to remove a lot of promotional material and clean it up. It appears mostly defunct, but seems to still be supported as legacy software package by its owner. Given the number of references, I believe it meets notability, if only from a historic perspective. Sargdub (talk) 01:25, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Edward Asare (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previous AfD was obviously canvassed. non-notable, does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NCOMPANY Polygnotus (talk) 19:54, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Pepsiman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A move request on Talk:Pepsiman (video game) recently closed with a rough consensus to not move the page to this title. However, there was no consensus established for whether or not this disambiguation page was necessary, or if it should redirect to Pepsi#Pepsiman. This discussion seeks to attain a consensus as to whether or not this disambiguation should be retained, or if it should redirect to the subsection covering the mascot character on the main Pepsi article. silviaASH (inquire within) 04:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Video games, Advertising, Products, and Disambiguations. silviaASH (inquire within) 04:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep It disambiguates between two identically-named topics that are equally primary. I don't see a need to remove it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:33, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Zxcvbnm - It looks like a perfectly valid and useful disambiguation page, as Pepsiman the character and Pepsiman the game are identically named and covered in separate articles. Rorshacma (talk) 17:01, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pepsi#Pepsiman. We do not need a disambig page for two topics, and the character is obviously the primary topic given the game is based on him. Hatnotes on both articles can easily help with navigation between the two topics. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:28, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- 1) Disambiguation pages are perfectly valid even for 2 topics, and even if one of them is a DABMENTION.
- 2) The character is not "obviously" the primary topic, as decided in the previous move discussion noted in the nomination. One could argue that the game is just as notable as as an old advertising mascot. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:58, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This is a valid disambiguation page between two identically named topics, and I don't see enough evidence to establish the character as the primary topic over the game. MidnightMayhem (talk) 23:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per @Pokelego999. Character is a more appropriate primary topic when the video game is literally based on and starring him. Go D. Usopp (talk) 06:44, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Subject clearly has more than one notable meaning: the character (a mascot for Pepsi in Japan) and the PlayStation game released in 1999. RolandSimon (talk) 16:57, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- View Media Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. To satisfy WP:NCORP, a company needs in-depth coverage in multiple sources that is not entirely based on press releases, company announcements, executive interviews, or whatever else the company has to say about itself.
There are zero sources here with in-depth coverage; all of them are routine coverage and/or churnalism of fundraising, investments, acquisitions, and product launches. A WP:BEFORE search did not find better sources. As an WP:ATD, this can potentially be selectively merged to co-founder Alex Waislitz.
UPDATE: A better solution would be to create an article about Antony Catalano and redirect View Media to that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Advertising, Companies, Technology, and Australia. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Helpful Raccoon: With so many of the sources behind paywalls its hard to assess whether your description is accurate. I'm assuming you may have access? If so, a WP:SIRS table source analysis would go a long way in proving/forwarding your argument. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here's a source assessment table for the article's current sources plus one other source I found, which is slightly better than any of the other sources. Looking more closely, the only potentially useful sources mainly cover View in the context of Catalano's broader plans, so the best outcome seems to be to create an article for Antony Catalano and merge into there.
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| ~ | ~ Coverage of a planned acquisition that was released before an official announcement. There is roughly two sentences of non-routine coverage: View Media Group is consolidating its investment in the portal – which looks a lot like Catalano’s former business Domain and rival REA’s realestate.com.au – about seven months after scoring a $50 million-odd investment from ANZ. |
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| ~ | ~ Very little coverage aside from routine investment and fundraising news and quotes from the co-founder. This piece has roughly two sentences of independent coverage: The raising for VMG is the latest development in a corporate adventure started by Catalano and his business partner, billionaire Alex Waislitz. As early as 2019, Catalano had plans to "attack" his former employer, Domain, by building a rival. |
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| ~ This is the best source I could find. Apart from the routine investment news, it has three sentences that describe plans for growth and consolidation of View Media, but it also focuses on Catalano himself. | ~ Partial | |||
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
- @Helpful Raccoon I tried to look further and found the below sources. Are they good enough ?
- https://www.afr.com/street-talk/catalano-and-waislitz-s-venture-set-to-buy-out-view-com-au-20230827-p5dzrk
- https://www.mi-3.com.au/31-05-2024/anthony-catalanos-view-media-group-appoints-former-domain-talent-leadership-reshuffle
- https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7866793/acm-owners-join-seven-in-100m-digital-property-venture/
- https://www.realestatebusiness.com.au/tech/24428-view-media-group-acquires-critical-piece-for-property-ecosystem
- https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/local-media-companies-inject-cash-into-catalano-s-new-real-estate-play-20220708-p5b08n.html
- https://www.startupdaily.net/topic/funding/seven-backs-real-estate-media-baron-antony-catalano-in-100-million-proptech-play/
- https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/anthony-catalanos-digital-property-dream-with-view-media-group/news-story/e69804ff9c0564ae949036832933aae1
- https://thewest.com.au/business/property/property-seekers-to-get-complete-view-of-property-market-with-antony-catalanos-new-view-portal-c-12030301
- https://www.crunchbase.com/person/alex-waislitz-7247 Gudipudi (talk) 07:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not, the best source here that I didn't already consider is the Sydney Morning Herald source, which was written before the company was even formed. We can probably have an article about Antony Catalano though, and include information about View in that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. The only other source i found was on Sydney morning Herald - https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/former-domain-execs-cash-in-property-startup-for-35-million-20221009-p5bocl.html.
- Though AFR, Canberratimes, mi-3, The australian are reputable sources, i understand they are not to your satisfaction. Feel free to delete this entry as i cant produce any more sources. Thankyou . Gudipudi (talk) 22:38, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not, the best source here that I didn't already consider is the Sydney Morning Herald source, which was written before the company was even formed. We can probably have an article about Antony Catalano though, and include information about View in that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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2024-06 ✗ R2←2024-06 move to → Draft:View Media Group - --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Vserv Digital Services (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. As of now, the page is a WP:PROMO. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 10:00, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete — still tagged for notability since 2015 and nothing in the current sourcing addresses that. EmilyR34 (talk) 07:45, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fade258 (talk) 13:13, 5 November 2025 (UTC)