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[edit]- Golddigger (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable film. I was unable to find any significant coverage about it. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I did find this mention, however it's only in snippet view so I can't see how in-depth it goes. Google translate does seem to suggest that it's likely a bit longer so could probably be used to help establish notability. I haven't checked in English yet, so there may be a bit more there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 21:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards a keep. According to this, the film did receive coverage back in the day - reviews were published in trades and film magazines. They were by fellow filmmakers and their friends, however the author makes it clear that this was probably a case of them being friendly to their peers since it wasn't a particularly cutthroat atmosphere at the time. In other words, they're most likely usable if one could find them and it's not a case of say, only Curtiz's friends writing reviews. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- At bare minimum this should redirect to the director's filmography page. But there does seem to be coverage, it just didn't make it onto the internet. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:12, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards a keep. According to this, the film did receive coverage back in the day - reviews were published in trades and film magazines. They were by fellow filmmakers and their friends, however the author makes it clear that this was probably a case of them being friendly to their peers since it wasn't a particularly cutthroat atmosphere at the time. In other words, they're most likely usable if one could find them and it's not a case of say, only Curtiz's friends writing reviews. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep This is by the legend Michael Curtiz, although I haven't seen the film, it has some prominence behind it for the name of the director. I wouldn't be surprised if this is noted in books. Per above comments and WP:OFFLINESOURCES should exist, I am inclined for a keep. Govvy (talk) 22:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Timeless Gift (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Chinese television series that fail WP:GNG. Absolutely no coverage. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Steve Sandor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NACTOR, with no roles of any particular note. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: Passes NACTOR through roles in Bonnie's Kids, The No Mercy Man, Stryker (1983 film), Hell's Angels '69, Fire and Ice (1983 film) and The Only Way Home (Coverage here, here and here). Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also passes GNG through coverage here, here, here, here and here. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 15:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. Other than Fire and Ice (for which he provided his voice), the films are obscure and seen by few. One one of the examples of "coverage" is viewable, and that one doesn't even mention him. The rest are paywalled, and I strongly suspect are merely passing mentions. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:49, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Every single one of the sources listed for GNG discusses Sandor's career so I don't know which one you're talking about. If you're talking about the book, that one was listed to prove that The Only Way Home is notable and that Sandor's role in it is significant, and the sources actually does talk about Sandor. That the films are "obscure and seen by few" is complerely and utterly irrelevant for NACTOR. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Other than Fire and Ice (for which he provided his voice), the films are obscure and seen by few. One one of the examples of "coverage" is viewable, and that one doesn't even mention him. The rest are paywalled, and I strongly suspect are merely passing mentions. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:49, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- The Reason I Can't Find My Love (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable drama series that likely only has an article due to its use of songs by Namie Amuro. Both the English and Japanese versions of the article are almost completely unsourced. Performing a search for Japanese-language sources only results in product listings, streaming sites and forum posts, not reliable coverage. MidnightMayhem 06:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. No reliable sources to prove its notability. Warriorglance(talk to me) 06:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. I found an article from Oricon stating that the first episode had a 17% nationwide viewership. Mantan Web reports that its final episode had an 18.4% nationwide viewership. It seems to have been highly viewed in Japan. lullabying (talk) 07:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Correction: they're not nationwide viewerships, but overall viewerships in the Kanto region of Japan. lullabying (talk) 07:11, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- 50 Greatest Album Covers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources cover this TV special, hence nom'ing under WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE check pulled up only forums discussing the list, and obviously we don't do WP:UGC. I would be in favor of retention if a few examples of in-depth discussion of the special in, say, some magazine or TV guide archive unknown to me, was found and qualified as a WP:RS. /over.throws/✎ 23:07, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment I'm always intrigued when sporadically contributing accounts miss a BEFORE. IMDB notes its existence and agrees with the presenters listed here. While certainly not a RS itself, it suggests that this is real and not fabricated. WP:BCASTOUTCOMES and WP:NTVLOCAL suggests that RS coverage should exist for this somewhere even if we cannot find it. Jclemens (talk) 04:33, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- I was aware the subject had an IMDB, and I left it out because it did not contribute to establishing baseline notability. In addition, I found contemporaneous newspaper sources that only include mention of the program in their TV guides (not sigcov). I don't think that this program, which is distinguished in this case by it being a short-lived, one-off program with minimal coverage available to us, attains notability by dint of being on national television. /over.throws/✎ 14:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Gung-Ho (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not independently notable; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Leaning keep, as this character in particular has been particularly widely used and adapted. BD2412 T 20:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Where is the sourcing demonstrating notability? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:29, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Dusty (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with this target ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge all characters nominated today to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. The seven-year-old me is crying, but primary-sourced fancruft isn't sufficient to pass WP:GNG. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per all. There isn't enough third-party coverage to pass WP:SIGCOV, but there is a clear merge/redirect target, per WP:ATD. Editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE based on what little sourcing there is. Shooterwalker (talk) 22:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Zandar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rip Cord (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Beach Head (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Wet Suit (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Leatherneck (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Mainframe (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Spirit (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Breaker (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Chuckles (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Crimson Guard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:09, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't pass WP:GNG and is mostly unsourced or inappropriately sourced to official G.I. Joe materials. Editors can decide what to WP:PRESERVE at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Bazooka (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Clutch (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Doctor Mindbender (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Leaning keep, as a particularly high-profile and widely adapted character in the media. BD2412 T 20:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per the fact that is one of the elite members of Cobra Command and per the claims of @BD2412:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Snow Job (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alpine (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. The mention in an essay (in the last section) is completely trivial and undue. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:13, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Mercer (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep or merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, but editors can figure out if any verifiable content can be WP:PRESERVEd at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Additional mentions are really trivial. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:31, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Mention in novel does not establish notability. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV, but editors can figure out if any verifiable content can be preserved at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:18, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Article is basically a summary of primary sources. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only a character mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials, with no other sources. Should be merged or redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:37, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; trivially mentioned outside of primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; trivially mentioned outside of primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; literally only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:43, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials, plus a mention in an unrelated novel. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; literally only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:46, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. Doesn't meet WP:GNG, but editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned, mostly trivially, in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:50, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Study in "Other works" is not sufficient for GNG. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:52, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Short-Fuze (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Zap (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials, plus a trivial mention in an unrelated work of fiction. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Tripwire (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Torpedo (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Doc (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Quick Kick (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials (plus a super trivial mention in another material; not even due for inclusion anyways). Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Shipwreck (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Falcon (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. All besides that is very trivial. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Why don't we bundle these together into one AfD, seeing as they're all sourced from the same material anyway? Oaktree b (talk) 20:21, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- There has to have been a better way to handle this; the nominator created 52 AfDs for the same topic area in just over an hour. BOZ (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- and my reply is the same for all of them, see below. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b thanks, you might want to copy your !vote to some of the more deserving discussions, since AFD closers might only look at the one(s) they are closing, and not this one. BOZ (talk) 21:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- 52 AFDs is kinda insane WP:TRAINWRECK type stuff. Nom said they "should be redirected": why weren't they just redirected in the first place? BD2412 provided a good redirect target below. /over.throws/✎ 21:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- You’re asking why they weren’t just unilaterally blanked and redirected? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- You can be WP:BOLD and try it next time while keeping categories intact, and take time to read about how to perform a bundled nom rather than creating a WP:TRAINWRECK. Neutral on this because who has time to go through this literal 52 pickup mess of noms (and I'd probably just do what BD2412 did anyways)? Nathannah • 📮 23:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- You’re asking why they weren’t just unilaterally blanked and redirected? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- and my reply is the same for all of them, see below. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- There has to have been a better way to handle this; the nominator created 52 AfDs for the same topic area in just over an hour. BOZ (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- weak keep: CBR is an accepted RS per Project Comic Books on Wikipedia, here [1]. This [2] is a Google search showing articles where this character appears on the CBR website. We should have at least enough for a stub article about the character. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't even think a BEFORE was done. This is the second book that comes up, detailing every character in-universe [3], as does this one [4], or this [5]... Oaktree b (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- The toy line is discussed here [6], brief, but it helps. Oaktree b (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- The toy line is—Falcon is not. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I did do BEFORE—I just don't think entries in "every character from GI Joe" count as WP:SIGCOV. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- The toy line is discussed here [6], brief, but it helps. Oaktree b (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't even think a BEFORE was done. This is the second book that comes up, detailing every character in-universe [3], as does this one [4], or this [5]... Oaktree b (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I agree that these AFDs about GI Joe characters should be grouped OR most should be closed for now to avoid overwhelming editors. I do not believe it is possible to nominate 52 articles in a little over an hour while doing due diligence with WP:BEFORE. Pretty much all of these characters have google hits, and due diligence requires more than a minute to check and read sources in normal search engine + books. These discussions are likely to have similar arguments about the notability and/or reliability of secondary sources focused on GI Joe (e.g. [7]). Once that discussion has been had, the community can proceed to keep, merge, and/or redirect articles based on a consensus.
- On another note, maybe there needs to be a limit on how many AfD/Prods an editor can make in a given day to avoid overwhelming the process. Not what the best place would be to have such a discussion or if such a thing is even technically feasible.
- Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm ok with the !redirect if needed. I don't have time to look at 50-something AfD's for one same franchise. Oaktree b (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. Most of this is unsourced or coming from officially licensed material, and doesn't meet the WP:GNG. Editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE after a redirect. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:13, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Melendez Films (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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lacks significant coverage from independent, reliable sources, failing to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. If the article primarily relies on self-published or promotional sources and does not demonstrate a lasting impact, it would not meet Wikipedia’s verifiability and neutrality standards. Welcome to Pandora (talk) 07:43, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge into Bill Melendez. The article can very well be merged into Bill's page since the company was his. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies. The article lacks significant independent coverage from reliable sources that establish notability Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 08:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- delete. fails WP:SIRS fifteen thousand two hundred twenty nine (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete not meet WP:GNG--Kopnakolicti (talk) 07:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – I added films that L'Atelier Animation helped make. It has been profiled in reliable sources including Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, Animation Magazine and Cartoon Brew. Kansas Reimer (talk) 02:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
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All coverage (which is weak) is of the internet show he created—not of him. Non-notable. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - not notable. Alexeyevitch(talk) 23:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Per above. An editor from Mars (talk) 05:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- My Little Pony: Twilight Sparkle, Teacher for a Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable app; no secondary coverage whatsoever ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: There are already reviews from Kirkus, Common Sense Media, and Wired in the article. I also found mentions in Kotaku and 148Apps. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I think it toes the line of passing and not passing GNG, but there is a clear merge target. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. MidnightMayhem 14:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The reviews in Wired, CSM and Kirkus Reviews are enough for GNG. The article needs better sourcing and probably could do with some expansion but AfD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Pamzeis (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree with Pamzeis that the Wired, Common Sense Media, and Kirkus Reviews reviews already on the article appear to meet GNG. 148Apps is noted as a situational source on WP:VG/RS, but the review linked by Vacant0 is also fairly in-depth. Waxworker (talk) 14:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alison MacInnis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirected but restored. Doesn't meet WP:GNG, no references. Should be deleted as no obvious single redirect target has significant information beyond a mention about this person. Draftify most appropriate. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep This is pointless. She and her character became famous on their Power Rangers thing a long time ago, it should never be deleted. 31.22.146.236 (talk) 19:07, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Power Rangers cast members#Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue (2000) (with the history preserved under the redirect) per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 08:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- In my searches for sources, I found only passing mentions like this and this as well as two sentences of coverage here. She is quoted in this article in ComicBook.com, which is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Inconclusive discussions. There is insufficient coverage for Alison MacInnis to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria and Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. I think the Power Rangers cast members list is a good redirect target since all mentions of her on Wikipedia are related to the Power Rangers franchise. Cunard (talk) 08:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree: redirect. -Mushy Yank. 18:09, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- In my searches for sources, I found only passing mentions like this and this as well as two sentences of coverage here. She is quoted in this article in ComicBook.com, which is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Inconclusive discussions. There is insufficient coverage for Alison MacInnis to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria and Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. I think the Power Rangers cast members list is a good redirect target since all mentions of her on Wikipedia are related to the Power Rangers franchise. Cunard (talk) 08:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment If the decision is to restore the redirect, at least protect it so that only editors who can create new articles can override the redirect with an article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I support protecting the page given the extensive history of editing warring on the page. Aside from a revert by Haplogroup X (talk · contribs) whose account is locked, all recent edits to revert the redirects were from IP addresses, so semi-protection—rather than extended confirmed protection or full protection—may be sufficient. Cunard (talk) 21:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Power Rangers cast members#Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue (2000). Despite what the IP (since temporally blocked for adding poorly sourced content to BLPs) says above, it doesn't matter
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we subjectively think their are, we need some evidence that she was covered in depth, in multiple WP:reliable sources, to meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO; or else that she meets some part of WP:ENT. As with others, I'm failing to find such coverage. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 18:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Richard Ferrer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable person. Doesn't meet WP:GNG because none of the sources discuss him as a person, but simply mention his job title and/or are articles writrten by him. The man himself has not received significant coverage. Doesn't meet WP:AUTHOR. Doesn't meat WP:ANYBIO. Amisom (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete could not find any significant discussion about the subject in all of the references. Those passing mentions are not enough to pass for WP:ANYBIO. Mekomo (talk) 07:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fiona Foster (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sign of notability, search returns nothing. Allan Nonymous (talk) 01:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep: Have added two references but the article still needs additional references.
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Does not meet notability criteria. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 April 5. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 00:19, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per nom. No notability demonstrated in the present sources. Svartner (talk) 08:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Comment: Arguably passes WP:CREATIVE because of an international tour. Bearian (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Which part of WP:CREATIVE? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Mademoiselle Boop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet GNG or ANYBIO. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per ENTERTAINER and expand based on the French Wikipedia entry. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 01:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)- Weak keep I agree with Another Believer that this article can be kept and expanded based on the French version. I don't have the cultural knowledge to fully understand whether this passes GNG/ANYBIO, but in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE I think this article can be improved from existing French sources rather than deleted at this time.
- Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 01:47, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Shekinah TV (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am nominating this article for deletion as it Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources; WP:Before search did not find sufficient sourcing. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH (except SUN) and most Cable aggregators.
Anish Viswa 04:44, 4 April 2025 (UTC)- Responding to the points raised: Availability doesn't satisfy WP:GNG's requirement for significant coverage in independent sources (see WP:NEXIST). The suggestion to improve sources falls under WP:HEY; the key is demonstrating such sources actually exist, which the WP:BEFORE search did not confirm. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 07:14, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH (except SUN) and most Cable aggregators.
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I am nominating this article for deletion as it Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources; WP:Before search did not find sufficient sourcing. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH (except SUN) and most Cable aggregators.
Anish Viswa 04:46, 4 April 2025 (UTC)- Responding to the points raised: Availability doesn't satisfy WP:GNG's requirement for significant coverage in independent sources (see WP:NEXIST). The suggestion to improve sources falls under WP:HEY; the key is demonstrating such sources actually exist, which the WP:BEFORE search did not confirm. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 07:10, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom, unable to find significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Fails WP:GNG. B-Factor (talk) 12:30, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
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A search doesn't offer anything either. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 19:54, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Harvest TV (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am nominating this article for deletion as it Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources; WP:Before search did not find sufficient sourcing. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH (except SUN) and most Cable aggregators.
Anish Viswa 04:43, 4 April 2025 (UTC)- Responding to the points raised: Availability doesn't satisfy WP:GNG's requirement for significant coverage in independent sources (see WP:NEXIST). The suggestion to improve sources falls under WP:HEY; the key is demonstrating such sources actually exist, which the WP:BEFORE search did not confirm. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 07:15, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH (except SUN) and most Cable aggregators.
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I am nominating this article for deletion as it Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources; WP:Before search did not find sufficient sourcing. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 15:32, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH and most Cable aggregators.
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I am nominating this article for deletion as it Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources; WP:Before search did not find sufficient sourcing. UNITED BLASTERS (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH and most Cable aggregators.
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- Keep - Keep the article and improve the references. Channel is available in most DTH and most Cable aggregators.
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Non-notable LPTV; questionable sourcing. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 20:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Fails WP:GNG ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of television stations in Nevada#LPTV stations: We no longer regard FCC licenses and databases as any sort of notability indicator; this is another remnant of the lower inclusion standards of 2006. There's only so much significant coverage that a station carrying largely if not entirely national services can be expected to attain. An {{R to list entry}} as an alternative to deletion is the best that can be done here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:20, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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Lack of any notability whatsoever - prior print sources were bogus and unverifiable. Biased and POV statements littered throughout the article and the subject has flaunted said article on social media (facebook) many times. Large chunk of contributions to the article are from suspicious anonymous IP addresses that have only edited that page, as well as Guy Schwartz's own wikipedia account. Subject has not established notability and this page should be deleted. Brandonac4473 (talk) 09:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Well, the article is unsourced, so that's of no help. I don't find anything for sourcing. Could be notable, but the lack of any kind of sourcing isn't helpful. Could be a hoax or an LLM article for all I know. Could likely speedy this. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment is the nominator the ip who removed the references which are shown here on the basis that they were bogus such as the Houston Press?. However, I did find this piece in the Houston Press here so maybe they weren't as bogus as is claimed, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep also found these other Houston Press articles about him here, here,here, here, here, and here. Going by this evidence the other references removed such as Billboard may be genuine as well, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- For the record, yes I am the user who called the Houston press in an attempt to independently verify the articles he cited on his own wikipedia page - none of those print articles existed according to them.
- Your first link to houston press is talking about MARTY schwartz, not Guy Schwartz - Marty is a youtuber with infinitely more notoriety.
- Of the rest of the articles you linked, guy schwartz is the main subject of only TWO of those articles - and not to mention, they are all by the same publication. Which per WP:GNG - "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability."
- The only cited source within the entire article that I could find that had any direct ties to guy schwartz was yet another Houston Press article from 2007 entitled "South By Due East↵Racket heads for Austin as Guy Schwartz and M. Martin bicker over the history of a local festival" and it was incorrectly cited for a statement that claimed they have been running said festival since 2003 - which the article mentions nowhere. Thus why I pulled it from the article.
- Perhaps Guy Schwartz could write a new wikipedia page about himself with info from those two articles that he is the subject of, appropriately citing things that are within those articles for the information therein. But the article as it stands is a plethora of wild unsupported claims - such as claims of a 2016 presidential campaign that are based in nothing but fantasy. Claiming he toured with Duran Duran, Todd Rundgren and Huey Lewis.
- If Guy Schwartz was truly notable, then one would think he would manage more than a couple articles in Houston Press about his band. Brandonac4473 (talk) 09:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, the Billboard references I confirmed were bogus through online archives of those issues he claimed he was in.
- It also doesnt change the fact that none of those articles you linked were cited within the page. Had they been, this may have been a different story. Albeit the issue still stands: Per WP:GNG "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." Brandonac4473 (talk) 10:12, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, I've removed the Marty Schwartz reference. Agree more sources are required, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you agree more sources are required for notability, then please consider changing your recommendation to delete. Brandonac4473 (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Kindly remove the bold in your request as it might be considered a !vote and it is assumed that nominators are generally in favour of deletion and cannot !vote. ◇Not sure it is appropriate to ask a voter to change their suggestion the way you did, but maybe that’s not an issue. -Mushy Yank. 18:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- My apologies - unbolded that word.
- They can obviously do whatever they want, but I figured asking them to reconsider their vote would be appropriate considering that they now agree with the basis of my issue with the article to begin with - that more sources are needed. Brandonac4473 (talk) 20:20, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not yet fully convinced that additional sources do not exist so am sticking with my keep vote pending further evidence, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:18, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- The Houston Chronicle has bits of coverage about him; including this presenting him as "an icon of the Houston scene". -Mushy Yank. 00:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- (and same media: https://www.chron.com/entertainment/music/article/guy-schwartz-new-jack-hippies-1979508.php (based on an interview)+ or this (short/similar to first and with similar appraisal, "a Houston institution"); this interview at Rag Radio (with an extensive presentation) (see WP:INTERVIEWS, an essay) can serve is this is kept to expand and verify. So that imv, he might meet one or two of the inclusion criteria as defined in the guideline about WP:Notability (music), namely:
(excludes interviews) and/or, more likely:"Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself"
Houston is a city. GS, at 73, seems to be listed among the most prominent Americana musicians of its local scene. Ergo (weak) keep? If kept, the article, currently tag-bombed, should be cleaned up. -Mushy Yank. 00:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)"Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city"
- Do any of these articles you linked support the plethora of claims made throughout the article?
- This is why my attempts to verify them were so exhaustive. There are no credible sources for him having ran a 2016 presidential campaign, no credible sources for having toured with Duran Duran or Huey Lewis.
- He might've passed WP:GNG if those articles were properly cited within the article but they weren't cited at all.
- And Houston Chronicle calling his band an "icon" is a stretch particularly when their latest "music video" has 48 views on youtube. link
- Houston Chronicle is open for business btw for paid promotions. Brandonac4473 (talk) 04:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Even if notability is established, WP:NDELETE still says a wikipedia article must cite sources for whatever information it presents - regardless of notability.
- The entirety of the article is filled with unverifiable claims. He still doesn't pass WP:GNG in my opinion but the criteria to delete the page has absolutely been met per WP:NDELETE even if he is truly notable. Brandonac4473 (talk) 09:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Feel free to fix it, then and remove everything you think is inappropriate (please do not WP:BLANK the page, though). As for the idea that a page about a "truly notable subject" should (or even could) be deleted because the page has no sources cited, although sources exist (and in the case of an/this AfD, especially if sources are presented!!!!), I am very sorry, but: ABSOLUTELY NOT!
- Just read Wikipedia:Notability#Notability_is_based_on_the_existence_of_suitable_sources,_not_on_the_state_of_sourcing_in_an_article, which is a WP:guideline. "WP:NDELETE" is an essay (="the advice or opinions of one [..] Wikipedia contributor[s]", not a policy or guideline). You are totally free to cite it and it is not a problem, but it has little, if any, weight as an argument to delete a page. (I completely disagree with that essay, personally, and find it is full of wild and reckless assertions). Also, articles that do not pass WP:GNG but meet a given WP:SNG may be kept, depending on the case. Best, -Mushy Yank. 10:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, so you disagree with WP:NDELETE, thats fine.
- Do you think Guy Schwartz meets WP:SIGCOV?
- A brief mention in a list of other houston musicians seems like a trivial mention. Brandonac4473 (talk) 22:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- (and same media: https://www.chron.com/entertainment/music/article/guy-schwartz-new-jack-hippies-1979508.php (based on an interview)+ or this (short/similar to first and with similar appraisal, "a Houston institution"); this interview at Rag Radio (with an extensive presentation) (see WP:INTERVIEWS, an essay) can serve is this is kept to expand and verify. So that imv, he might meet one or two of the inclusion criteria as defined in the guideline about WP:Notability (music), namely:
- Kindly remove the bold in your request as it might be considered a !vote and it is assumed that nominators are generally in favour of deletion and cannot !vote. ◇Not sure it is appropriate to ask a voter to change their suggestion the way you did, but maybe that’s not an issue. -Mushy Yank. 18:22, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you agree more sources are required for notability, then please consider changing your recommendation to delete. Brandonac4473 (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, I've removed the Marty Schwartz reference. Agree more sources are required, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: fails WP:N. The phoney 2016 presidential campaign with no citations to back it up says everything to me. Nominator appears to have tried to independently verify the print articles thoroughly. My own searching of “Guy Schwartz” on the internet doesnt produce much either, except for his wiki page. Non-notable. Brenae wafato (talk) 21:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment found this here about his supposed 2016 Presidential bid but he doesn't seem to have made the ballot according to official records, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- so this guy connected with me on a site called ome.tv and one of the first things he told me to do was check his wikipedia page, trying to tell me he was famous. i googled him and literally this was the only thing i found on him. given that... seems like he shouldnt have a wikipedia page LOL. he has no followers or coverage anywhere else.
- i saw the notification at the top of his article inviting me to leave an opinion..
- so i'd say delete but i also dont know how wikipedia works. but this guy is not famous or notable and definitely shouldnt have a wikipedia page if he just goes around telling random people to check it out and has no real coverage anywhere else lmao. 24.27.40.108 (talk) 05:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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- List of Doctor Who parodies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An WP:INDISCRIMINATE list. Doctor Who is an iconic series, and nearly every iconic series has been parodied at some point; there is no coverage indicating that parodies of Doctor Who specifically are notable. The overall topic has no coverage: All GNews hits are from unreliable sources or trivial mentions, while Books and Scholar have nothing covering parodies in particular. There's absolutely nothing indicating the notability of this subject, and none of the spoofs individually appear to be notable either given the lack of strong sourcing for all of them. This subject completely fails notability. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 13:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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while Books and Scholar have nothing covering parodies in particular
: Dancing with the Doctor has a multi-page chapter dealing with the subject, "Unruly Divergence: Parody and Comedy". A Pirate's History of Doctor Who: the unauthorized stories reviews one parody in-depth, The Reign of Turner, but also discusses Doctor Who spoofs more generally on p. 171 (and presumably 170). It does have an ISBN, does not look self-published to me at first glance. Is Houston Press unreliable? Daranios (talk) 15:39, 1 April 2025 (UTC) - Comment A list of parody moments is in general a much more dubious proposition than a list of parody works—the latter being particularly suitable for a WP:CSC #1 (
Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own article in the English Wikipedia.
) kind of list, assuming there should be a list in the first place. If we are going to have such a list, I would be in favour of keeping information about each parody to a minimum on the list page, relying instead on the link to the article about the parody work for the details of the parody.I took a quick look at the sources linked above by Daranios (or more accurately, the parts Google Books decided to show me). I would note that The Reign of Turner (IMDb link) does not currently have a stand-alone Wikipedia article and based on a quick search for sources likely does not merit one. The other linked source is a bit difficult to assess as Google Books rather severely limits what I'm able to see, but it mentions (at least) Doctor Who and the Curse of Fatal Death, Tonight's the Night (TV series)#Doctor Who Sketch, and "From Raxacoricofallapatorius with Love". The first and last of those are explicitly described as specials (a Doctor Who special and a The Sarah Jane Adventures special, respectively), which seems a bit dubious to describe as "parodies" without further qualifiers or elaboration (one might term them "self-parodies", perhaps).I would also note that there is a Doctor Who in popular culture article (which is, it should be said, not in great shape at the moment). It is not immediately obvious to me that we should have separate articles for parodies and other types of cultural references. TompaDompa (talk) 17:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)- I have taken a stab at reducing this to a list of parody works with stand-alone Wikipedia articles. Take a look and see what you think. At any rate, we should not be listing parody works, parody moments, parody characters, and parody in-universe media together—that's just sloppy article construction. TompaDompa (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: I am not sure I agree with the recent extreme "cleanup" of the page (including removal of all the sources!!!] but that might be a different issue (I can't see why different sections focusing on different types/levels of parodying would be inappropriate; quite the opposite). Anyway clearly meets WP:NLIST. Sources presented above could seem sufficient. The topic is also addressed in Playing Fans: Negotiating Fandom and Media in the Digital Age (p. 102-104, for example) Also see sources like https://templeofgeek.com/list-of-doctor-who-parodies-and-doctor-who-inspired-music/ https://metro.co.uk/2017/03/24/no-doctor-who-sketch-in-comic-relief-this-year-you-can-watch-one-of-these-instead-6508088/ One can also add a Game Rant list (that CAN be used to expand the article, that's what WP:VALNET clearly states). Among missing titles in the list is Doctor Whore (https://www.cinemablend.com/television/Doctor-Who-Porn-Parody-Series-Exists-Compare-Casts-66875.html ; https://www.allocine.fr/article/fichearticle_gen_carticle=18633654.html?%20Series)) so that (re)-expansion seems AT LEAST possible -Mushy Yank. 09:25, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
different sections focusing on different types/levels of parodying
would be a third approach, different both from what the article was like when it was nominated (which listed different types/levels of parody alongside each other, not grouped as such) and how it is structured now. Whether it is a good idea depends on whether that's how the sources treat the subject—parody works and parody characters (and so on) are different concepts, so if sources only discuss one of them if would be inappropriate to cover them together here. TompaDompa (talk) 10:00, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep I think there are enough secondary sources to establish notability, and everything else can be solved through normal editing. With regard to The Reign of Turner, if it is discussed in secondary source(s) but not enough to be notable, it is suitable to be included in a list in accordance with WP:ATD-M and such. I am not fundamentally opposed to treating this in a larger context, like Doctor Who in popular culture, on the basis of WP:PAGEDECIDE, but that's again a discussion that can be done outside of the deletion discussion. Daranios (talk) 15:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:58, 9 April 2025 (UTC)- Comment: I feel so far, there has been very little sourcing discussing parodies as a whole, which is required by WP:LISTN to establish independent subject notability. So far the bulk, if not all of the sources, have been merely listings of ones that exist, or coverage of particular ones; nothing has thus far lent itself to showing the entire overarching subject is notable. I'm still not convinced that this meets notability right now. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:06, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: What would you say to the argument that a purely navigational list—i.e. one that only contains links to parody works, not descriptions of them or coverage of the overarching topic as a whole—need not meet WP:Notability per WP:Stand-alone lists (specifically,
Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.
)? TompaDompa (talk) 16:58, 10 April 2025 (UTC)- @TompaDompa in the article's current state it's so small that I don't see if having any navigational value, especially as a standalone article. At best it should be a section of Doctor Who in popular culture and nothing more. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 20:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, that seems like reasonable position to take vis-à-vis this list fulfilling WP:LISTPURP-NAV. I am also personally skeptical that anybody looking for e.g. the article The Curse of Fatal Death would do it through this page. TompaDompa (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- @TompaDompa in the article's current state it's so small that I don't see if having any navigational value, especially as a standalone article. At best it should be a section of Doctor Who in popular culture and nothing more. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 20:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: What would you say to the argument that a purely navigational list—i.e. one that only contains links to parody works, not descriptions of them or coverage of the overarching topic as a whole—need not meet WP:Notability per WP:Stand-alone lists (specifically,
- Comment: I feel so far, there has been very little sourcing discussing parodies as a whole, which is required by WP:LISTN to establish independent subject notability. So far the bulk, if not all of the sources, have been merely listings of ones that exist, or coverage of particular ones; nothing has thus far lent itself to showing the entire overarching subject is notable. I'm still not convinced that this meets notability right now. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:06, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Social media and television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Vanity article with deminimis view (several hundred a month) that is more like reflection. Graywalls (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Pageviews are not relevant in determining suitability for Wikipedia. And if the article is poorly written, that's reason for a rewrite, not a deletion. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 03:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Except.. we already have social media and television. This article is a vanity article with no clear merit. Graywalls (talk) 04:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Whose vanity? Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Vanity article as in spammy filler material. Oaktree b (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'd like to hear from Graywalls. Vanity is not spam as such, it's the notion that "I'm so important that I need a Wikipedia article". Geschichte (talk) 07:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Vanity article as in spammy filler material. Oaktree b (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Whose vanity? Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Except.. we already have social media and television. This article is a vanity article with no clear merit. Graywalls (talk) 04:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: but boy does this need a rewrite. I think it's talking about the effect of social media and television, but this is all over the place. I'd maybe sent it to !draft, but it's an old article, not sure anyone would pick it up. Oaktree b (talk) 13:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: While there are plenty of sources, this topic fails the second test of WP:GNG: material not being excluded under WP:NOT. This violates WP:NOESSAY and is a pile of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. While I'm sure someone could write an encyclopedic treatment of this topic, this ain't it, and would require such extensive revision that WP:DINC doesn't apply and WP:TNT does. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I think we should generally be pretty reluctant to invoke WP:TNT, but this is over the bar for me, basically per Dclemens1971. I think a related issue is that people have interpreted the scope as "anything I can think of involving the intersection between social media and television", which isn't really a coherent topic for an article (there's a reason titles like this are discouraged). If this is deleted, it'd be best recreated as multiple articles with narrower scopes (we already have Social television, and maybe Effects of social media on television ratings would be a good addition). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning keep of move to draft, AFD is not cleanup, and any editor can clear out the essayish stuff. Articles about the documented interrelationship between related fields are permissible. BD2412 T 04:14, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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After a cursory search through the sources listed in part D of WP:BEFORE, I failed to find any other notable sources (much less three) that specifically speaks of negative checking as opposed to someone's checking account having a negative balance. A search for neg check is admittedly a bit more promising, but it mainly turns out online services as opposed to notable sources.
Given that we can't really merge this article into our article on the fictitious persons disclaimer (which itself doesn't really discuss negative checking), I propose deleting this article. Silcox (talk) 05:18, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- no opinion on how notable, but I looked for the Lunney and Oliphant book mentioned on the page, and it indeed has a para on negative checking just as described, on page 728. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll admit that I'm unable to read the book due to technical reasons, although I was already aware that the book was mentioned in the article even while writing this AfD. I cannot find any other sources on negative checking, so I think we're stuck in 1R territory even if the book proved to be a non-passing reference for the subject. Silcox (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- That's a shame, because if you had, you would have seen that the source cites a second source itself: Barendt et al. 1997a, pp. 114–115 and Barendt et al. 1997b, pp. 195 . That said, I think that this is the BBC's idiosyncratic name for this. I found exactly one other mention, and it was in a directory of BBC departments in a 1993 handbook on television production (ISBN 9780240513447). (Yes, BBC. The original source talks about the BBC. See page 132.) Uncle G (talk) 08:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Barendt, Eric; Lustgarten, Laurence; Norrie, Kenneth; Stephenson, Hugh (1997a). "Broadcasting". Libel and the Media: The Chilling Effect. Clarendon Press. pp. 100–125. doi:10.1093/oso/9780198262275.003.0005. ISBN 9780198262275.
- Barendt, Eric; Lustgarten, Laurence; Norrie, Kenneth; Stephenson, Hugh (1997b). "Conclusions". Libel and the Media: The Chilling Effect. Clarendon Press. pp. 182–198. doi:10.1093/oso/9780198262275.003.0009. ISBN 9780198262275.
- That's a shame, because if you had, you would have seen that the source cites a second source itself: Barendt et al. 1997a, pp. 114–115 and Barendt et al. 1997b, pp. 195 . That said, I think that this is the BBC's idiosyncratic name for this. I found exactly one other mention, and it was in a directory of BBC departments in a 1993 handbook on television production (ISBN 9780240513447). (Yes, BBC. The original source talks about the BBC. See page 132.) Uncle G (talk) 08:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll admit that I'm unable to read the book due to technical reasons, although I was already aware that the book was mentioned in the article even while writing this AfD. I cannot find any other sources on negative checking, so I think we're stuck in 1R territory even if the book proved to be a non-passing reference for the subject. Silcox (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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- The section heading used on Barendt et al. 1997a, p. 114 is "The Problem of Unintentional Defamation", by the way. You will get a lot further with unintentional defamation as the subject name. Of course we've had a missing subject titled by one particular nonce noun phrase instead of the actual name since 2008. This is Wikipedia. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. It's a UK term, not specifically a BBC one - and indeed the example given in the article is an ITV programme, although it is used at the BBC. Smethurst's How to Write for Television (both 2000 and 2016 editions) has half a page of discussion of neg checking under
Libel
. Gallagher's Breaking into UK Film and TV Drama (2016) mentions it underClearances
. Orlebar's The Practical Media Dictionary (2003) has an entry forNegative Checks
. Note that all of these have a slightly different definition from the current article - it's not just about individuals' names, but also about products and companies. I didn't find any examples of it being used outside the UK; from the US, Patz's Production Management 101 (2002) uses it to mean checking film negatives. Adam Sampson (talk) 13:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)- With 3 slangy sources where "neg check" is string matched to something partway down and buried in the middle of what is actually a discussion of defamation (the "libel" sources saying "defamatory matter" outright), specifically unintentional defamation, how one risks it and how one can attempt to avoid it, you make my case for me.
If you go instead to the higher quality law sources like Douglas Maule's Media Law Essentials (EUP, 2017) or Robertson and Lane's Media Law: The Rights of Journalists and Broadcasters (Longman, 1984) you'll find this and more under unintentional defamation. There's tonnes of this if one actually gets the subject name right and stops following the Wikipedia practice of using slang titles and string matching.
I'll mention at this point that the Lunney and Oliphant book is on the law of tort and page 728 is part of chapter 12, on defamation, pages 727 to 729 dealing with intent and with E. Hulton & Co. v Jones, 20 (AC 1910). as the aforementioned do as well (and which has had impact in Indian and Australian jurispridence). Even the 1 original source cited is telling us all what the subject is. Uncle G (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- With 3 slangy sources where "neg check" is string matched to something partway down and buried in the middle of what is actually a discussion of defamation (the "libel" sources saying "defamatory matter" outright), specifically unintentional defamation, how one risks it and how one can attempt to avoid it, you make my case for me.
- Move to unintentional defamation and refactor this content into a section on means of preventing this, basically per Uncle G. BD2412 T 14:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. This seems related to the concept of "this is a work of fiction, any similarities to real life, people, events are unintentional" that is probably notable, but I am not sure what is the related term, and whether we have any article on this. Merging this to some defamation related topic makes sense. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:18, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: That would be the above-mentioned Fictitious persons disclaimer (which has some structural problems of its own, but is notable and fixable). BD2412 T 04:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it is the best place for merger then. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: I think perhaps we merge both to a new article titled along the lines of Defamation in fictional portrayals. BD2412 T 17:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it is the best place for merger then. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: That would be the above-mentioned Fictitious persons disclaimer (which has some structural problems of its own, but is notable and fixable). BD2412 T 04:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to defamation per WP:NOPAGE. I'm not convinced this meets the WP:GNG. To the extent that people can find sources, it won't make much sense to a reader without explaining defamation. I am open to other targets. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:40, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per Shooterwalker. Not enough for a stand alone article (here since 2008), but worth keeping in a page like defamation. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)- Just my two cents: Keep. I came here from the credits of a Black Mirror (UK) episode that mentioned "Neg Checker".
- This was the first thing I found so I think this article is still valuable, even though it's rather short. Since Black Mirror is a UK show, it aligns with what Adam Sampson said in this message, which would probably be a great addition for the article itself. NullDev (talk) 03:48, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Vivienne Pinay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass GNG. Only piece of independent, in-depth coverage is an interview in "Hotspots Magazine" from 2013. The other source with subject's name in headline is just a recap of a reality TV episode on which the subject was eliminated; it is not in-depth coverage of Vivienne Pinay. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:57, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:ENTERTAINER. ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:18, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear, you interpret this person’s one-episode guest spot on Skin Wars and their run on RuPaul’s Drag Race to make them a notable entertainer, despite a lack of notability-establishing coverage? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have asked you several times now to leave me alone. I will not be engaging with you further so please do not ask me questions or post on my talk page again. Thanks ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- That is simply not a reasonable ask when it comes to AfD, and I will not be avoiding your votes in this discussion. You are free to not reply, obviously. Biography subjects need WP:SIGCOV, and this subject does not meet that standard. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have asked you several times now to leave me alone. I will not be engaging with you further so please do not ask me questions or post on my talk page again. Thanks ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear, you interpret this person’s one-episode guest spot on Skin Wars and their run on RuPaul’s Drag Race to make them a notable entertainer, despite a lack of notability-establishing coverage? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Comment: In real life the subject is a friend of several friends of mine and, since my partner is Filipino-American, I have found that both the LGBTQ and pinoy worlds are very small and interconnected. So I'm not going to !vote. I feel obligated to point out that the subject was eliminated after the 4th episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, but they also have tens of thousands of followers on social media. Discuss amongst yourselves. Bearian (talk) 18:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to RuPaul's Drag Race season 5. Not prominent enough for stand alone article. Reads like a promo. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- That redirect makes sense to me too ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Completely disagree. ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:43, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Lance Kramer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced biography from 2006. Could not find SIGCOV about him. Natg 19 (talk) 23:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Some coverage for someone with a similar name [8], I don't know if it's this person though. Oaktree b (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Don't think it is the same person. IMDB (not RS, I know) has several Lance Kramers: [9][10] Natg 19 (talk) 01:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't follow WP:GNG and the lack of sources seems like grounds for deletion. Cottagechez (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
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Comment: I'm yet undecided. He directed a number of episodes, so there should be sources. Most of the article was written by IP editors, but I reached out to Jdb00. Bearian (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep He meets WP:CREATIVE#3, as having played a major role (directing) in the creation of a notable work The Simpsons, which has been the subject of multiple, independent reviews. I have found one article about him, from 2000, and several reviews of two short animated films of his shown in animation festivals in the early 1990s. Otherwise, I have found sources that confirm his role as director in the episodes of the Simpsons. I think that is enough to satisfy WP:CREATIVE#3, as they provide verification of his role. (This person is not the same as the Lance Kramer who with his brother Brandon Kramer has made The First Step and Holding Liat - that Lance Kramer will probably be notable too.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree that he means CREATIVE#3 as Kramer is not the "creator" of the Simpsons - that would be Matt Groening. And CREATIVE#3 mentions
(for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)
. However, the 3 articles mentioned may meet WP:BASIC. Can you put links to the articles here? Natg 19 (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)- WP:CREATIVE includes WP:DIRECTOR and other creative professions - it does not mean just the original creator of a series. The wording you quote is about what form coverage of "the significant or well-known work or collective body of work" can take: the work "must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work, for example ...". Lance Kramer directed 25 episodes of The Simpsons - it seems to me that he "played a major role in co-creating" it. The sources are in the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still disagree with you, as directing 25 episodes is very minor, out of the 783 (and growing) number of The Simpsons episodes. That is less than 5%. Will review the sources later on. Natg 19 (talk) 18:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:CREATIVE includes WP:DIRECTOR and other creative professions - it does not mean just the original creator of a series. The wording you quote is about what form coverage of "the significant or well-known work or collective body of work" can take: the work "must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work, for example ...". Lance Kramer directed 25 episodes of The Simpsons - it seems to me that he "played a major role in co-creating" it. The sources are in the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree that he means CREATIVE#3 as Kramer is not the "creator" of the Simpsons - that would be Matt Groening. And CREATIVE#3 mentions
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- Delete Many people work on these TV shows, but most do not have their own stand alone article. Does not look notable and sourcing is not that great. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: My sources above were not helpful. I don't see notability... Oaktree b (talk) 15:00, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Big Brother: The Boss (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Content already exists on Big Brother (franchise) article. Stand alone article does not meet wp:GNG. Variety312 (talk) 21:09, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Would you mind slowing down television-related AfDs, please? and in particular, if you suggest redirects or merging, you can start a discussion on the TPs of the concerned pages. Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 00:35, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Big Brother (franchise)#Versions since it seems more notable to have article in arabic wiki than English wiki. Ramos1990 (talk) 21:08, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ramos1990, that's not how notability works. It doesn't matter what language the sources are in. -- asilvering (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- What I meant was that this is not notable here. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Big Brother (franchise): Doesn’t need a whole page…. Valorrr (lets chat) 05:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Kids' Choice Award for Favorite Male TV Star (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has been tagged since 2011. Although numerous edits have been made, none have added citations. Recommend merging with larger article on Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards Variety312 (talk) 21:06, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Feels like you could just easily add the source for each ceremony from each year's KCA article rather than just adding it to a vortex of deletions. Nathannah • 📮 19:41, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep Seems like a directory but the awards are sort of notable and the link [11] in the mian page shows multiple similar summary pages exist for other award categories. Ramos1990 (talk) 00:46, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Week Keep:: Per Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards which is the main article, here is just a category, it’s either there a source is added to it or it’s been merged in due time. Best Regards (CP) 08:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – Lists of category nominees and winners are common practice as long as the award is notable enough that the list can be sourced, which is the case here (I added sources for the most recent years and I'm confident sources exist for earlier years). RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:49, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Survivor – A sziget (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lots of edits since 2011 by no WP:RS. merge with larger article on Survivor television program. Survivor (franchise) Variety312 (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per Variety312. Ramos1990 (talk) 00:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Survivor (franchise) . 190.219.103.171 (talk) 21:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Geschichte (talk) 16:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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