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Life Noggin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After seven and a half years since the previous AfD, I still agree that this YouTube channel fails WP:GNG. I am not sure whether the redirect Bobby43255 has created is appropriate, so deletion rather than redirection may be the appropriate outcome. GTrang (talk) 19:10, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation, Education, Science, and Internet. WCQuidditch 19:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, reads like a high school project. Geschichte (talk) 19:42, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This channel is not notable. It definitely fails WP:GNG. There isn't any coverage of this channel unless you include other YouTube videos and those aren't reliable sources. The article is also written terribly ("the channel has 1.9 million subscribers and a whopping 211 million views") and in a very promotional tone. Too many random YouTube channels and "personalities" make it into Wikipedia. Ashoburn (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Some articles I found in Google mention the channel but the articles are mostly blogs. A website "Laughing Squid" comes up a lot and already is one of the two references used in the article. But "Laughing Squid" seems to cover basically every new video by this channel and the author is always the same "Lori Dorn", an author who pumps out hundreds of articles about new YouTube videos from various channels. That seems like SEO/engagement spam to me so that isn't a good website to use for references. There aren't any mainstream websites covering the channel except "hey new video!!" Nothing substantive to justify a Wikipedia article. Ashoburn (talk) 20:06, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
District Fellows (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No independent RS on the page, nothing found to suggest there is independent notability outwith of The Woodcraft Folk and even if there was would be better written in context there WP:NOPAGE JMWt (talk) 09:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sust'n'Able (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No independent RS on the page. Nothing found to suggest there are sources to show independent notability to meet the inclusion standards for inclusion, even if there was it would be better read in context at The Woodcraft Folk JMWt (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shepherd's Hill Academy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After some consideration, I don't believe that this school is notable enough for Wikipedia. The main two sources used (Friday and Carly) are both self-published (see WP:MEDIUM) and I could not find any secondary sources whatsoever that confirm that this school is closed (although it is listed as "permanently closed" on Google Maps). The other sources are either outdated, focus on Embry (which would be appropriate in a biography on Embry, but not in an article about his school), or mainly describe the school's standing in various organizations, which doesn't contribute to notability by itself. wizzito | say hello! 16:40, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Mackenzie High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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As you can on it's page, there is an unresolved additional citations tag from 2009. It has not been resolved because the subject does not have any WP:SIGCOV in any WP:INDEPENDENT sources. There are extensive mentions in the school's own website and the York Region District School Board's websites. However, those aren't independent. When scouring Google Books, all I could find were passing mentions. Some of these weren't independent sources, some were works of fictions (just with the same name as the subject), and others were lists. On Google Scholar, I could find unrelated works created by students of the school. On Google News, it was much the same as Google Books in the sense that I could not find significant coverage. Most were just passing mentions. Some notable examples: [1]; [2]; [3]; [4]; [5]; [6]. If we were to construct a page using these, I think it would violate WP:NOTNEWS and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOLS. 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 15:46, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milliken Mills High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I searched for some sources on Google News, per standard procedure, and all I could find are some trivial mentions. Even if these were significant coverage, I am not sure they would pass not news. I looked at Google scholar as well, it was mostly student's papers which did not mention the school significantly in any capacity. On Google Books, the sources were either not independent or in passing mention. 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 18:15, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Silver Oaks International School - Bachupally Campus, Hyderabad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of notability for this school. Fram (talk) 12:45, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern regarding notability. However, this page was originally created several years ago without proper structure or strong sources. I have recently taken the initiative to restructure and improve the article with more reliable references and factual information.
I kindly request some additional time to add independent and verifiable sources (such as media coverage, third-party reports, and other reliable publications) to strengthen the notability of the article. Deletion at this stage might be premature, given the work in progress.
Thank you for considering this request. Deepak Muthyam (talk) 02:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vine Hill Elementary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article lacks significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources to establish notability per WP:SCHOOL and WP:GNG. The only cited source is a government directory entry, which is routine and insufficient to demonstrate encyclopedic relevance. A search reveals no substantive media, academic, or historical coverage about this specific school. Thus, it does not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines and is a candidate for deletion. Issac I Navarro (talk) 17:17, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

St Ives High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability, St Ives being the largest suburb in Ku-ring-gai will have many schools. If anything, the best option by far would be to WP:BLAR and a redirect to St Ives, New South Wales #Schools where this is mentioned at target per WP:CHEAP and WP:ATD. Servite et contribuere (talk) 21:09, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

McAfee Institute (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There has been an ongoing debate (years) on the article's talk page about the notability of the company. Concerns were expressed around the type of citations and confusion with the company McAfee/the McAfee anti-virus software. Given the level of discussion, as a neutral 3rd party, I rejected a speedy delete nomination, deemed PROD inappropriate, and so I'm bringing it to AfD for community consensus. — ERcheck (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • fn2: cited - "Board Certifications". McAfee Institute. Retrieved 2025-05-30. Self-referential citations are not accepted as reliable sources
  • fn3 and f5 (point to same page): It is simply the directory listing ("Provider Information") at NICSS - giving name and address, etc of McAfee Institute. It does not verify the article's statement that "The programs incorporate theoretical content alongside practical case studies and application exercises"; nor does it verify the statement that "The Institute’s certifications are also listed in the National Initiative for Cybersecurity Careers and Studies (NICCS)." A concern about the NICCS listing, it that the Education & Training Catalog page says, "Add your courses to the Education & Training Catalog to gain exposure and support the mission to educate and train the Nation’s current and future cybersecurity workforce." (bold mine).
  • fn5 to Missouri site returns "404 page not found". No meaningful results found using the site search, so does not verify the article's statement that "McAfee Institute's programs are accredited ... by the Missouri Department of Public Safety."
  • fn8-fn11 - U.S. military: These link to the various U.S. military branches' COOL programs, but do not validate the article's statement that "McAfee Institute certifications are eligible for credentialing assistance under U.S. Department of Defense programs including..."
  • fn12: The article claims that McAfee's certifications "are also listed in the Government of Canada’s Cyber Security Certifications Guide". This is true, however, according to the Foreward of the cited document, "The guide provides information about many of the certifications available ... The intent is not to recommend any certification body or certification in particular, but to provide a listing of some of the different certifications that may help advance an individual’s career in the field of cyber security. Information is sourced from the websites of the certification bodies referenced in this guide. Disclaimer: The Communications Security Establishment does not endorse or recommend any of the certification bodies or certifications listed in this document. Information provided is intended to be a general summary of publicly available information and is provided for informational purposes only." (bold mine) Therefore, the certification listing came from McAfee, thus is self-referential to the certificates they provide.

ERcheck (talk) 16:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi everyone — thanks for opening this discussion and giving space for a deeper look into this topic. I’ve been watching this article evolve over time and wanted to weigh in with some thoughts that might help clarify things.

I understand the concern around significant coverage and reliable sources. These are valid questions, and I appreciate the opportunity to provide more context.

Independent Coverage and Notability (WP:GNG)

There is significant, non-trivial coverage of the McAfee Institute from independent and reliable sources. One example that stands out is a full editorial in Inc. Magazine, which profiled the founder and the organization's impact in the cybercrime and human trafficking investigation space: https://www.inc.com/magazine/201309/issie-lapowsky/josh-mcafees-business-fights-cybercrime.html

That’s not a press release or user-submitted piece — it’s a vetted profile from a respected publication.

On top of that, you’ve got multiple independent mentions in industry-focused and academic sources:

  • Police1 listed McAfee Institute as a training provider for law enforcement.
  • ThoughtCo includes it as a recommended option for cybercrime education.
  • Indeed.com cites the Institute’s certifications in articles focused on law enforcement careers.
  • Peer-reviewed references can be found in the ACM Digital Library and Henry Stewart Talks.
  • Global Investigations Review’s Corporate Investigators Handbook also cites the Institute in its OSINT training section.

While not all of these are multi-page features, when taken together, they show a meaningful pattern of coverage across respected domains — journalism, professional development, and academia — which satisfies WP:GNG in my view.

Government Recognition: More Than Just Listings (WP:NCORP)

Some sources in the article are directory-style, and I get that raises eyebrows. But I’d argue these aren’t just casual listings. For example:

NICCS (run by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) requires that providers align their training with the NICE Cybersecurity Workforce Framework and meet federal standards. This isn’t just an “add yourself” directory. Courses are reviewed for mission alignment, and DHS has a public vetting process: https://niccs.cisa.gov/training/add-your-courses

COOL (Credentialing Opportunities On-Line) — used by all U.S. military branches — also involves a vetting and approval process. These aren’t just references to eligibility — the government literally pays for servicemembers to complete these certifications because they’ve been reviewed and deemed relevant for promotion points and career progression.

Here are some of the listings for reference:

Also, McAfee Institute is recognized in the Government of Canada’s Cyber Security Certifications Guide. While that document includes a disclaimer stating it doesn’t endorse any specific provider, the fact that it includes McAfee is still notable for visibility and inclusion in national workforce materials.

Missouri State Accreditation – Verifiable, Though Not Deep-Linked

Some folks noted that the Missouri Department of Education link was returning a 404. That’s accurate, but I found the Institute listed through the state’s college search tool here: https://web.dhewd.mo.gov/collegedegreesearch/collegesearch.faces Just enter “McAfee Institute” — the listing comes right up. It’s not directly linkable due to the site structure, but it’s still verifiable.

Additionally, the Missouri POST Program lists McAfee Institute under Online/Other Training Calendars, confirming its relevance for law enforcement training and credit: https://dps.mo.gov/dir/programs/post/postcalendar.php

Final Thoughts

I’ve seen similar pages for training organizations with far less sourcing that weren’t challenged, so I want to make sure this one is held to a fair and consistent standard. I’m not claiming it’s perfect — I agree the article could be improved in tone and structure — but in terms of meeting notability and offering reliable sources, I believe it clearly does.

Thanks again for the thoughtful discussion and for taking the time to look at this more closely. Happy to work on improvements collaboratively. — ResearchPolicyGuy (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Looking through some of the sources that the above chatbot pointed out (for transparency, I collapsed their comments), none of them are enough to pass WP:NORG. The Inc. story is an interview. ThoughtCo only has a single paragraph in a listicle. All I can find on Police1 are press releases from McAfee. Being mentioned in a list, cited, or accredited does not help with WP:NORG. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:07, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - doesn't have enough reliable sources or they are just mentions.Darkm777 (talk) 01:28, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - As the user who originally referred this for deletion, obviously I agree with the above comments (especially the WP:NORG concerns). Furthermore, the talk page for the article is full of users questioning the notability of the page. The article also strongly leers in the direction of WP:PROMO in overall tone.Packerfan386beer here 00:22, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Logic Group of Schools (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article fails to meet the general notability guideline WP:GNG as well as the subject notability guideline for schools per WP:SCH. There is no significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Additionally, the only external link previously cited no longer exists, eliminating a key primary source. It does not merit a standalone article. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 17:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WBJU (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources; largely promotional; could merge into Bob Jones University. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Circle School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a small private school, and added two references. I cannot find more coverage, however, and I am not sure the local newspaper coverage is independent, as it relies on information from the school and refers readers to the school's website. I don't think that WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL is met. Tacyarg (talk) 20:01, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Notable, per Talk:The Circle School#Potential resources for improvement. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I've revised the text and supplied citations for all remaining text. Meets GNG. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:07, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - There is generally an issue with over-reliance on news articles, that they are often primary sources, and it can be hard to write an encyclopaedic article from them. These articles should be written from secondary sources, not primary ones. However, some of the sources found do address this issue. Raffaele (2003) for instance (that is, the Beaver County Times) has primary reporting about the school suing over a patriotism law, but the news article is filled with secondary information that can be used in the article. We don't have a thorough review of all the sources here. Some are clearly not IRS SIGCOV (e.g. this [7] only references something from the school and is not about it). But given the above and sources such as [8], I think there is enough to write an article, enough to argue we have met GNG, and recognition of at least one event that brought the school to wider attention. Content for this one to be kept. Thanks also to Grand'mere Eugene for the WP:HEY Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Boxer Indemnity Scholarship (United Kingdom) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability with extremely little content, with what little content can be moved to the US version's article with its own section. Current page title not useful as a redirect. Go D. Usopp (talk) 07:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep. Based on its Google Books preview, the book cited, Britain's Imperial Retreat from China, 1900-1931, seems to discuss this topic at some length. I couldn't find much more, though, aside from a note [9] on another recipient of one of these scholarships. Ideally we'd had an article covering the British allocation of the Boxer Indemnity as a whole, since education and scholarships seem to have only been a small part of this decades-long project [10]. Since there is some worthwhile content here and two decent citations, if this isn't kept, I'd prefer a merge to Boxer Protocol or Boxer Indemnity Scholarship. I must note that the only recipient listed, Qian Zhongshu, is among the greatest modern Chinese writers, so this program, even if limited, had a significant impact on Chinese culture. Toadspike [Talk] 14:44, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I found further discussion here: [11][12]. As for the dreaded "move and rescope" option, which I am regretfully supporting here, the management of British Boxer Indemnity funds involved none other than the great Hu Shih, which has received significant academic coverage [13]. This article serves as a decent starting point for covering that notable "main topic". Toadspike [Talk] 14:56, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems the Universities' China Committee in London spawned partly out of this effort [14]. Toadspike [Talk] 15:04, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Indrashil University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. There is no independent coverage. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 10:34, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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References

  1. ^ "Cadila Pharmaceuticals and Indrashil University Launch Tailor-Made Executive Diploma to Bridge the Campus-to-Corporate Gap in Pharma, ETEducation". ETEducation.com. 1 October 2024. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
  2. ^ De, Rajneesh (16 April 2025). "'Our Vision is to Become an AI & Emerging Tech Innovation Hub that Offers Interdisciplinary Research, Industry-Driven Projects, and Skill-Based Certifications': Prof (Dr) Dharmesh Shah, Provost, Indrashil University". APAC Digital News Network. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
  3. ^ "Cadila Pharmaceuticals and Indian Red Cross Society to train 50,000 students in CPR and First Aid". The CSR Universe. 30 January 2024. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
  4. ^ "Indrashil University holds its maiden convocation". Suger Mint. 10 February 2022. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
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Relisting comment: There are sources shown above that have also been added to the article; a review of them would be helpful.
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