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The Gossamer Project

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Fan fiction archive that does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Most of the sources are WP:PRIMARY, and several are outright impossible to find. Mostly consists of passing mentions and lack of WP:SIGCOV. Madeleine (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 20. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 22:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Websites. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:10, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The Gossamer Project seems to have been the subject of academic attention. Jennifer Seibel Trainor's chapter "Critical Cyberliteracy : Reading and Writing the XFiles" in What They Don’t Learn in School: Literacy in the Lives of Urban Youth (ed. Jabari Mahiri) focuses on it, and then again it's discussed by Andrea Lunsford in the following chapter in the same book, a response to the first one. Nicole Neece discusses it (not the same focus as in Jennifer Seibel Trainor's work, but no mere passing mention) in "The Truth is in the Archives: An Examination of The X-Files Fandom’s Preservation Practices" (Proceedings from the Document Academy, vol. 9, iss. 1 , article 4), to mention a couple. Google Scholar gives a few more hits I haven't had time to glance at, as well. /Julle (talk) 00:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automata in the Indian cultural imagination

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No disrespect to the student editor Meerad247 who created this article for their UChicago Computation, Culture, and Society class, but this article seems built on out-of-scope material and pseudohistory. Its discussion of yantras confuses the term's alternative Sanskrit meaning of machine/contraption as indicating that these geometric diagrams somehow operate as automata. Its discussion of Tholpavakoothu and broader puppetry confuses the field's goal of mimicking life with actual automata. In comparison, the Robot article recognizes Japan's Karakuri puppet as actually mechanized, while the History of robots article recognizes Hero of Alexandria's creation of a mechanical puppet theater.

The extended claim that the Lokapannati legend describes robots guarding the Buddha's tomb, only for Ashoka to defeat them is troubling pseudohistory. The claim is sourced to an article from The Conversation, which in turn cites a 1901 article that makes no mention of such robots (JSTOR link). Given that Mayor's article refers to greater coverage in her 2018 book Gods and Robots, I did further digging. When she presents the story there, it is cited to Raimon Panikkar's 1984 article "The Destiny of Technological Civilization: An Ancient Buddhist Legend Romavisaya" which opens by warning "I shall offer an interpretation of this story which the medievals might have called allegorico-anagogical: I shall consider this text of the past in the context of the present. I shall not make this paper heavy with footnotes or with hermeneutical 'praenotanda' to justify this interpretation." Scholarly recognition that Panikkar's article is WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE includes the 2017 book chapter "Panikkar's Quest for an Alternative Way of Thinking and Acting," which frames that 1984 article as a fringe attempt to treat technology as a Western advancement that poses future danger.

Generally, this article has an awkward title that would be better changed to "Robots in Indian culture" if kept as no other article begins with "Automata in ..." and "Indian cultural imagination" is needlessly wordy. For now, deletion seems warranted over focusing on appropriate inclusions like the 2010 movie Enthiran because until sources are presented to show reliable sources recognizing the robots in Indian culture as a distinct topic, such entries would be better covered by Robots in literature and Science fiction film#Robots. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 22:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Buddhism, and India. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 22:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Puppets are robots? This article makes no sense. I'm sure there's something in there, but this goes all other the place. Oaktree b (talk) 00:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A robot is a machine—especially one programmable by a computer—capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically --- from the Wiki article about robots, from the link in this article. None of the examples in this article seem to fit that. Oaktree b (talk) 00:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Monster's Christmas

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Unnotable. Only has 3 sources. ShamrockFrog64 (talk) 16:41, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Film, Television, and New Zealand. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:36, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Willis, Donald C. (1997). Horror and Science Fiction Films IV. Lanham, Maryland: The Scarecrow Press. pp. 331–332. ISBN 0-8108-3055-8. Retrieved 2025-05-16 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes: "The Monster's Christmas (N.Z.) Showtime-TV/Dave Gibson & Nat'l. Film Unit & TV New Zealand 1981 color 48m. D: Yvonne Mackay. SP: Burton Silver. Ph: Peter James. Mus: Dave Fraser. AD: Gaylene Preston. SpFX: Tony Rabbit. SpDes: Janet Williamson. Mkp: Patricia Cohen. Ref: TV. TVG: listed as movie. no Scheuer. no Maltin '92. With Lucy McGrath, Leone Hatherly (witch), Paul Farrell (mountain monster), Michael Wilson (bat-mole creature, Nasty); Ingrid Prossor, Roger Page (mud monster); Bernard Kearns, Jeremy Stevens (monster voices). Nonsense-for-children is a tad slow, but generally agreeable "Sesame Street" stuff. One monster looks like an artichoke, or leftovers from Battle beyond the Sun. All monsters here like to eat pictures and drawings of flowers, and all express themselves in funny growls and grunts. (The witch took away their voices.) McGrath as the little girl has an effortlessly expressive face and voice and seems right at home with the weird creatures. At one point, she disguises herself as a monster and is given lessons in ferociousness."
2. "N.Z. film wins award at U.S. festival". The Press. 1981-11-23. p. 13. Retrieved 2025-05-16 – via National Library of New Zealand.
  The article notes: "The Monster’s Christmas," a one-hour children’s film, has won a bronze medal at the New York film and television festival for its Wellington maker, Gibson Film Productions. The star of the film is a Wellington girl, Lucy McGrath, aged nine. “The Monster’s Christmas" is her second film. ... Gibson Films looked to local schools before they made “Barney Blackfoot” and remembered Lucy McGrath when it decided to make “The Monster’s Christmas.” She still had to audition with 150 others. ... New Zealanders will be able to see the film on television on Christmas Day. They will see Lucy journeying towards the caves, where the wicked witch, Festindook lives, to help the film's monsters regain their stolen voices."
3. Less significant coverage:
  1. Cowie, Peter, ed. (1981). International Film Guide, 1982. London: The Tantivy Press. p. 229. ISBN 0498-02568-3. Retrieved 2025-05-16 – via Internet Archive.
    The book notes: "Director Yvonne Mackay, working with her producer-husband David Gibson, made the bizarrely-entertaining Monster's Christmas, a fable in which a small girl makes friends with three creatures whose voices have been stolen by a witch."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Monster's Christmas to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There's also a review by Outlaw Vern: [1]. A critic who has written for Ain't It Cool News, CLiNT, and Seattle Weekly. --Mika1h (talk) 08:15, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources identified in this discussion by Cunard and Mika1h that together shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 20:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Red Mechanic (Film)

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Non-notable film. Literally nothing aside from press releases and basic announcements COOLIDICAE🕶 17:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No indication of significance --TonySt (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Film. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete --Iiii I I I (talk) 23:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly self-promotion, and without declaration of a COI. Barry Wom (talk) 08:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Since the film has not yet been released there's no place that this could be redirected to. (Per a discussion at WP:FILM, film articles can be redirected to list pages even if they are non-notable.) It's never been confirmed if short films can be included in pages like List of American films of 2025, but it's never been said that it can't either - so whenever this releases, if there's zero coverage it can just be included on the list page for that given year (barring discussion stating that it cannot). But it has to release first. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair they do say case-by-case but I've seen films with pretty much or actually zero coverage get redirected, so we don't have any minimum thresholds for what could be considered something that obviously shouldn't be included. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Promotional article on non-notable film. JTtheOG (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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