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[edit]- Vatnik Soup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability has been questioned and it contains content copied from an admittedly biased source that, despite being properly licensed under Creative Commons, has an unfortunate history of willfully publishing copyright violations (they had a template called "Conservapirated" basically admitting that certain images were copyright violations, which I would link to but cannot currently do so due to being behind a content filtering firewall right now) and therefore we probably should not trust its license. PCHS Pirate Alumnus (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. PCHS Pirate Alumnus (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Russia. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 02:53, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Non notable Twitter post series. I would only count the Kyiv Post article as a good source for notability, but that's not good enough on it's own. RoseCherry64 (talk) 10:38, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: lack of notability Unsosctent | Talk — Preceding undated comment added 20:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: lack of enough SIGCOV sources even with additional searching to suggest notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 13:28, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, with the caveat that the article could be renamed to Pekka Kallioniemi, which is currently a redirect to this. While coverage of the actual series is more limited - I'm only finding coverage in Telecinco (some of which is about the creator), a review of the book pertaining to the account, and similar from the Kyiv Post - there appears to be more for Kallioniemi himself. See coverage in Iltalehti (partially an interview but there is non-direct quotation content in there), a long form peace in Ilta Sanomat (and a shorter one), another piece in Verkkouutiset, and a paywalled piece in Talouselämä. Though paywalled, there's also an interview in the Austrian newspaper of record, Der Standard. Further, there's an argument to be made that Kallioniemi meets point 7a of WP:NPROF as he seems to be frequently quoted on matters of misinformation particularly in Finland; for a few examples, he's quoted (or his remarks are the topic of a whole article) in Politico, Ilta Sanomat, Ukrainian Pravda, Uusi Suomi, the online version of Czech Radio, Hufvudstadsbladet, Aftonbladet and Finnish national broadcaster YLE, twice, three times. With this I think the creator is notable. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 02:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Vranyo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of the sources can be considered reliable when it comes to the Russian language and culture. I tried searching for any reliable sources in both English and Russian, but none support the definition of “Vranyo” given in the article.
Most of the sources used in the article are political opinion pieces written by journalists, where the concept of “Vranyo” is mentioned in passing to support a larger point [1,2,3,4,8,9,10].
Out of the sources where that isn’t the case, [5] is indeed written by a Professor of Russian and Slavonic Studies. However, it is still an opinion piece, and very remotely supports the definition of “Vranyo” given by the article. It also uses “one wag on Reddit” as one of its sources, raising questions regarding the academic quality of the piece.
For sources [6,7], the article gives a quote of a Russian-American professor of history, but nothing in the sources indicates that the given quote has any relation to the concept of “Vranyo”.
[11] is a book on workplace practices, also mentioning “Vranyo” in passing to support a larger point. The author is a Professor of Sociology with nothing to suggest he’d be an authoritative source on Russian language and culture.
As one of the editors in the old talk suggested, it does seem to be the case that the concept of “Vranyo”, as used by the article, is a concept that a small group of English-speaking journalists have decided to label using the Russian loanword "Vranyo", completely detached from the actual word “Vranyo” in the Russian language.
In this regard, it is quite interesting, but requires more original research. If the original contributor would like to completely rewrite the article, I am not against incubating the article, but as it currently stands, I would suggest DELETE
--Deliberate Baobab (talk) 16:59, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language and Russia. Shellwood (talk) 17:20, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think we need WP:OR. Wikipedia is based on WP:RS, and the article is sourced. The article has over eleven references, all of them including the word/concept, including experts and scholars, Russians and non-Russians, but it doesn't seem to matter since this article appears to have struck some kind of nerve.
- This is the English Wikipedia, so if “Vranyo” here has a different connotation than it does in the general Russian language or on the Russian Wikipedia, that's fine. If you want a more Russian POV, you could provide reliable sources for that rather than suggesting that the entire article be deleted, given that whether some people like it or not, this definition of “Vranyo” does exist and it would be silly of a neutral encyclopedia to delete it per WP:NPOV. I'm not against adding some good Russian sources if they can be found, if simply having "in Russian, the literal translation is x" would make you feel better. TylerBurden (talk) 22:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- WP:CONTEXTMATTERS None of the cited sources are written by experts in the appropriate field. Please refer to my commentary in the orignal message regarding the quality of the used sources. Deliberate Baobab (talk) 12:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- If you don't think they're experts, then that's your POV, some of them are literally described as such by secondary references. For example, "Galeotti, an expert and prolific writer on Russia".
- We're just in WP:IDONTLIKEIT territory, I get that this might not fit with certain people's own narratives about Russia or that it might even be considered offensive to some, but thankfully we have WP:NOTCENSORED. TylerBurden (talk) 17:43, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable sources (WP:RS). Yes, Galeotti is an expert, but an expert in Russian crime and security. He is not a reliable source on Russian language and culture, and his opinions do not represent the mainstream academic view. With all the sources being not unlike this one, the article currently puts undue emphasis on a WP:FRINGE theory held by a minority.
- Now, the article is not completely hopeless, and could be rewritten in a draft space so it is up to the standarts of Wikipedia, but I would argue there is not enough quality research on the topic yet. Deliberate Baobab (talk) 07:54, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- This isn't only about the Russian language, it's about the term in English, because we're on the English Wikipedia. If it's a fringe view, then go ahead and provide some sources debunking the term and concept, because surely someone would be calling it out when high profile sources cover it. TylerBurden (talk) 19:03, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps due to how niche this is, I wasn't able to find any authoritative sources discussing the topic at all, whether supporting the view of the article, or opposing it. But I'll try searching again.
- All in all, I believe I made my argument on the non-reliability of the sources, so I'll let more experienced editors weigh in from here on.
- On an unrelated note, in your experience, do interested editors usually come upon AfD discussion such as this one on their own, given time, or would something like a post on a Wikipedia noticeboard by neccessary here to get more opinions? Deliberate Baobab (talk) 07:18, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- This isn't only about the Russian language, it's about the term in English, because we're on the English Wikipedia. If it's a fringe view, then go ahead and provide some sources debunking the term and concept, because surely someone would be calling it out when high profile sources cover it. TylerBurden (talk) 19:03, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- WP:CONTEXTMATTERS None of the cited sources are written by experts in the appropriate field. Please refer to my commentary in the orignal message regarding the quality of the used sources. Deliberate Baobab (talk) 12:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps worth a note to reviewers, this new account appears to be a WP:SPA. TylerBurden (talk) 19:07, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Gold of Polubotok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article does not meet WP:RELIABLE. It is based almost entirely on a book by the Ukrainian writer Serhiy Plachynda, which is essentially a collection of historical tales lacking any scholarly apparatus or academic character. The remaining sources are links to various types of popular articles. The article fails to distinguish fact from fiction; the entire content is unverifiable, and virtually every statement raises doubts. Marcelus (talk) 18:02, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Russia, Ukraine, and England. Marcelus (talk) 18:02, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The story has sigcov from historians Serhii Plokhy, Serhy Yekelchyk, and Ihor Kolyada, as well as numerous articles devoted to it in the Ukrainian press. Whether the article is adequately referenced is irrelevant to notability, and hence to the AfD, but I rewrote it, and now it is fine in this respect. Kelob2678 (talk) 21:37, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Several sources had been used. Perhaps the intro could be re-written to reflect the (in)probability of the story. Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: As per Kelob2678. Ceriy (talk) 21:28, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Artem Serpionov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails notability guidelines (GNG, NBAD, SIGCOV). zglph•talk• 16:03, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: All I pull up in my search is the same BWF site now in the article, then social media. I don't see enough to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:06, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, ditto Oaktree b monkeysmashingkeyboards (talk) 16:22, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Anastasiya Danchenko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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having a runner-up performance at an international challenge event doesn't meet WP:NBAD, moreover i cannot find any credible source that passes GNG or SIGCOV. zglph•talk• 15:49, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Aleksandr Vasilkin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. zglph•talk• 05:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio giuliano 10:09, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Jia Lissa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing here rises close to the standard of meeting the notability standards for a BLP. Fails GNG, N and ENT. Spartaz Humbug! 13:46, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. Shellwood (talk) 15:01, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to AVN_Award_for_Female_Foreign_Performer_of_the_Year#2020s: listed there [
tw]thrice; per WP:ATD-R, a section in the page explaining Wikipedia's deletion policy that states: "A page can be blanked and redirected if there is a suitable page to redirect to, and if the resulting redirect is not inappropriate." e.ux 17:54, 30 October 2025 (UTC) - Keep 1. Irreplaceable: Around the World With Jia Lissa, AVN. 2. Jia Lissa celebrates her 28th birthday: How one of the main Russian adult film actresses lives now Maxim. 3. Jia Lissa: Vixen Euro Sensation Embraces Stardom, 'PhD in Jiology' (interview, but it contains a seven-paragraph introduction) Xbiz. 4. Adult film actress Jia Lissa from Izhevsk starred in a photoshoot for MAXIM magazine, Komsomolskaya Pravda. 5. "I was afraid": Porn actress Jia Lissa spoke about filming a movie with Kirill Käro The Voice. 6. Jia Lissa: How a shy girl from Izhevsk became a world porn star izhlife.ru. 7. Russian woman Yulia Chirkova won the "Porn Oscar": a triumphant photo gallery, Moskovskij Komsomolets. Kelob2678 (talk) 20:38, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Avn and xbiz are not universally accepted. Maxim is a photoshoot, KP is not actually an article, the voice interview, is the voice an RS?, izhlife? Really an RS? And finally MK? The author said to be instagram. Sorry, I’m not i,pressed Spartaz Humbug! 19:48, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- At RSP, WP:AVN is green and XBIZ is yellow,
XBIZ is considered generally reliable for the adult industry
. Maxim is not a photoshoot, the author just added her photos, one of them was published on her Instagram in February 2023, another at May 2022, the others could probably be located as well. KP is an article that discusses an interview she gave to Maxim. Izhlife is RS by WP:USEBYOTHERS (Meduza, Kommersant, AP, Reuters, The Moscow Times) The Voice is popular and has 6 million monthly visitors. I don't know about its reliability, but why wouldn't it be reliable? Their report wasn't an interview, but an article about an interview she gave to Maxim. MK is indeed a poor source. The Voice article on her AVN award is significantly better. Kelob2678 (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2025 (UTC)- If the articles are about their own awards they are not independent and for many years AFD and DRV have been finding them deficient as a source. Spartaz Humbug! 11:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- The AVN article is a cover story from 2023, that year she didn't win any AVN awards. Her 2020 AVN award was covered by Rambler. Kelob2678 (talk) 19:09, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- If the articles are about their own awards they are not independent and for many years AFD and DRV have been finding them deficient as a source. Spartaz Humbug! 11:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- At RSP, WP:AVN is green and XBIZ is yellow,
- Avn and xbiz are not universally accepted. Maxim is a photoshoot, KP is not actually an article, the voice interview, is the voice an RS?, izhlife? Really an RS? And finally MK? The author said to be instagram. Sorry, I’m not i,pressed Spartaz Humbug! 19:48, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – no significant news coverage. Most citations found are industry award listings or adult‑film production announcements. Shinadamina (talk) 04:38, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: As per Kelob2678. Plenty of availablity of Russian sources. Lack of English sources doesn't make the subject non-notable. Meets GNG. 92.43.9.199 (talk) 12:55, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Which sources meet GNG? Spartaz Humbug! 19:49, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: So far, the keep !voters are not making a convincing case regarding sources. For example, the claim "Plenty of availablity of Russian sources" does not identify any actual Russian sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 22:19, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Per [1], [2], [3] and other numerous sources which gives enough significant coverage to the subject. Passes WP:GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 03:59, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Did you even read these sources. 1 & 3 are interviews and therefore not independent to meet RS/GNG and 2 is next to nothing, has no byline and reads like a reheated press release. Nowhere near enough to stand up notability. Spartaz Humbug! 22:33, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
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