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[edit]- 1982 Sukhumi Dranda Airport runway collision (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has only primary (database) sourcing, and I could not find any significant coverage from a basic BEFORE search. The article has been tagged for reliance on a single source and not meeting GNG since August of last year, and no real improvements have been forthcoming. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Aviation, Transportation, and Russia. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge with Sukhumi Babushara Airport. I searched Russian sources, but no one mentions it even the history page on the official airport website. Sadly, doesn't know a good Russian database to make a perfectly throurough research. LastJabberwocky (talk) 06:44, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge into Sukhumi Babushara Airport as an alternative to deletion per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT – Other than databases, there exists no reliable secondary sources that provide significant or in-depth coverage of the event nor are there any demonstrated lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. This was the best I managed to find but isn't significant coverage of the collision:
Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC)Спустя три года, 14 августа 1982 года, в Сухумском аэропорту самолет Jet L-410 столкнулся на взлетно-посадочной полосе с Ту-134А. В авиаинциденте погибли все, кто находился в «Турболете» - 9 пассажиров и два члена экипажа.
[Three years later, on August 14, 1982, at the Sukhumi airport, a Jet L-410 collided with a Tu-134A on the runway. The incident killed everyone on board the Turbolet - nine passengers and two crew members.] - Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- The Russian Assassins (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tag team that lasted a year. Chief problem is WP:GNG: main sources are database entries, with a WP:BEFORE check pulling up nothing substantial. Two books are cited with this article: one page from an overview of WWE wrestling in the 80s (Shields: inaccessible on Google Books, but it would be hard to argue significant coverage from a single page overviewing an era of pro wrestling), and another broad book covering the history of pro wrestling. Nothing standalone is the concern with these cites. /over.throws/✎ 16:18, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Even if it lasted for a year, it still attracted enough coverage to warrant a standalone article here. In principle, as David used to mention , Delete is reserved for when nothing else can be done to save/salvage. Information purged is information lost. This is apolitical, informational, and non controvertial (in wiki sense) , hence the suggestion. Devopam (talk) 05:15, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Aleksei Gubanov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No claim to any notability. Fails WP:N. Deleted in Russian Wikipedia. Mitte27 (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Agree, a couple of russian sources covered after he was recognized as a foreign agent on 4 April, even with this news the only notable magazine that covered it was Lenta.ru, which is blacklisted. Russian wiki also deleted the page. LastJabberwocky (talk) 18:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - There is also a draft, Draft:Alexey Gubanov, which I have declined because this article exists. Is there any content or sources in the draft that can be added to the article? (I have not reviewed either the draft or the article in detail, and do not at this time have an opinion on notability.) Robert McClenon (talk) 05:48, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Userfy and merge. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm not putting any weight into whether or not the subject has a Russian language article. Bearian (talk) 04:19, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Mykhailo Tkachuk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm a bit unsure of this one, as he played mainly in the 1990s and had a rather long career, but in all four related languages, I could only find this, which is hardly WP:SIGCOV. I could find literally nothing else—hardly even a mention of his existence. The article has also been a stub for going on 10 years now. I figured that it would be worth putting it up for discussion here, as it doesn't appear as though this article is improvable without seeking out physical archives for information—and even then it's not guaranteed. I'm curious if anyone else can find anything on this player. Anwegmann (talk) 01:46, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- delete The uk-wiki article is much more detailed, but it seems that this person does not satisfy the notability threshold for sportsmen, as well as it fails WP:SIGCOV. --Altenmann >talk 01:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Medal For the Construction of Transport Facilities (Russia) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Definitely exists. Could find several mentions of it being awarded, but not any in-depth coverage. Might be due to the language barrier, and if someone can find them in cyrillic, let me know. But as of now, does not meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I can read Russian and there is nothing more than "it's exits" (from this document ПОЛОЖЕНИЕ о медали "За строительство транспортных объектов") and description of it (from this document ПРИЛОЖЕНИЕ к Положению о медали "За строительство транспортных объектов"). Plus a person can be awarded this medal "Почетный работник транспорта России" and a few other medals, if they already have "Medal For the Construction of Transport Facilities" (from "ПОЛОЖЕНИЕ о нагрудном знаке "Почетный работник транспорта России"). LastJabberwocky (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note – if the page is kept in any form, it should be moved to Medal for the Construction of Transport Facilities (correct capitalization and no unnecessary disambiguator). RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:52, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Julia Lebedeva (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NSKATE. Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of notability. On-line searches yielded nothing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Let'srun (talk) 21:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Armenia at the 2002 Winter Olympics: Both this and the corresponding Russian article are devoid of any type of secondary coverage. As such, the subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Redirect as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- She was actually quite famous. But my brief search didn't come with anything. (Understandably, cause 20 years have passed.)
I wouldn't delete articles like this. Cause you would need to find Russian and Armenian print papers from 97–02, they haven't been scanned for Google Books.
I've looked her up, she currently coaches very small kids in Moscow. Her students are so small, none of them are in the news, sadly. --Moscow Connection (talk) 14:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC) - Keep Bordrline notable Olympic sportsman. Independent coverage does exist, but difficult to find. --Altenmann >talk 16:32, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Notable how? Finishing in 27th place out of 27 skaters? Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's why she dropped competitive sport, sad. Still borderline WP:GNG/WP:SIGCOV. --Altenmann >talk 17:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Is that "significant coverage" in the room with us now? Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:38, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- As I can see, Altenmann found her entry on Sport-strana.ru, a Russian online sports encyclopedia. There's a detailed article.
The Sport Strana encyclopedia may not seem well-designed (it is stuck somewhere in the 2000s), but it is being used in 590 Russian Wikipedia articles ([1]). So it is definitely a serious, reliable website. And their article about Lebedeva is actually well-written and looks good. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- As I can see, Altenmann found her entry on Sport-strana.ru, a Russian online sports encyclopedia. There's a detailed article.
- Is that "significant coverage" in the room with us now? Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:38, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- She represented Armenia at the Olympics and the Europeans, basically being an "acting" Armenian champion. (I have no idea if actual Armenian national championships were held at that time. So I can't prove she was actually a champion and thus passes WP:NSKATE.)
And she wasn't someone unknown even in Russia. She placed 6th at the Russian championships in the 1997/98 season and thus most probably qualified for the Russian national squad. Cause she represented Russia at the Golden Spin and Skate Israel early in the next season. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's why she dropped competitive sport, sad. Still borderline WP:GNG/WP:SIGCOV. --Altenmann >talk 17:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Notable how? Finishing in 27th place out of 27 skaters? Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. All that said, I think she passes WP:NSKATE as a de facto Armenian champion. (At least de facto.)
@Altenmann:. I was afraid to vote because of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1176#User:Bgsu98 mass-nominating articles for deletion and violating WP:BEFORE. Where the emphasis of the discussion I started was shifted to attacking me. Since then, I've been avoiding AfD and decided to come here only because I know Lebedeva was famous enough. As were many other Russian skaters whose article were deleted during the past year. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)- A similar mop-up was earlier for footballers and ... pornstars. There was even a joke inforgaphics where, like, 55% of Wikipedia articles were pornstars, 25% pokemon :-). It is sad that now it seems to be 80% of Wikipedia edits is from wikignomes (that's what I see in my watchlist) rather than content creators. But there is a reasonable position that if a person is indeed notable to general public, not just to wikipedia lawyers, the bio will be recteated anyway ... or not. My personal approach is if I see some name mentioned an several wp articles, I write up a brief bio, such as Shulamit Volkov or Niyameddin Musayev or Bronislava Kerbelytė, to name a few of my articles no one cares about. --Altenmann >talk 18:01, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Of course Bgsu98 comes down as a 25-pound hammer on all these articles, but in his defense I may say that a HUGE number of nanostubs were created by dumping various databases into wp, without real loving care of the subjects. I remember this happened to locations in Antarctica (it took lots of work to merge/redirect them into larger features) ; we are still struggling with GNIS dumps of locations which do not exist anywhere but in GNIS; I remember one guy ctearted several dozens 200-character articles on railway stations in several minutes, I guess in a rat race to be the one to create the 1,000,000th Wikipedia article. And so on. So I see nothing wrong in backfiring with massive AfD nominations. --Altenmann >talk 18:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- But these figure skater articles were not like that. Many were well-developed. There were several prominent editors who created such articles a few years ago. Maybe if these people were still active they would defend their creations.
This is a lesson why you need to write articles for contemporary skaters now and not wait 20 years. Cause in 20 years most of the online sources won't exist anymore, and it will be impossible to prove the people were famous once. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC) - I see that you have added sources to this article. This is the English-language Wikipedia, so sources in languages other than English must include 1) the title translated into English, and b) the language of the source. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- "Must include". — That's not a requirement. --Moscow Connection (talk) 23:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Even when those articles were improved (I improved some of the mass AfD summitted skating bio articles after submission and they were properly cited before the nomination) they still draw attention of the nominator for deletion due to the narrow view of what is considered "notable". That said I'm not sure how these deletions makes a better Wikipedia. The nominator's assertion "No evidence of notability. On-line searches yielded nothing." is inaccurate as sources have been added to the article that are appropriate and as a national champion she passes WP:NSKATE. Nayyn (talk) 19:19, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- But these figure skater articles were not like that. Many were well-developed. There were several prominent editors who created such articles a few years ago. Maybe if these people were still active they would defend their creations.
- Redirect to Armenia at the 2002 Winter Olympics. Not much coverage to keep as stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 03:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)- Keep Seems she passes WP:NSKATE as a champion. Archives908 (talk) 17:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Champion of what?!? Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Seems she passes WP:NSKATE as a champion. Archives908 (talk) 17:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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