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East Haven, Indiana

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As far as I can determine this is the same as the Richmond State Hospital, which I also find referred to as "East Haven Hospital". It is a historic and still active asylum started in the 1870s; the main building is a classic of period architecture. It also appears as a rail spot because there was a branch which presumably supplied the heating facilities with coal. The one thing I see no sign of is anyone thinking of this as a town in its own right: though it appears to sit outside the city limits, it was always associated with Richmond, and I find no reference to a predecessor town. Mangoe (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Beesons, Indiana

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Looking at the maps, this is a rail junction, not a town, and that's how it comes up in every meaningful hit I got. Mangoe (talk) 16:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Emerson Nieto

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of significant coverage. The only references in the article are primary and I couldn't find anything elsewhere to support notability. Let'srun (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep subject looks notable based on Indyeleven.com. (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mysecretgarden, Indyeleven.com is his team's website. That is not an independent source. JoelleJay (talk) 01:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, didn't notice that. Changing my vote to DELETE. Mysecretgarden (talk) 03:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charlottesville, Union County, Indiana

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I found basically nothing of substance about this "no there there" spot. Mangoe (talk) 03:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete At least Charlottesville appears on topo maps starting in 1960: [1], but never as more than a crossroad with four buildings (only one of which is there today). Fails WP:GEOLAND for lack of information. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hopeville, Indiana

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Pne of a couple of places entered into GNIS from an 1876 atlas, the only other reference I can find is a passing inclusion in a list of towns. There's nothing in the topos or aerials, and the location is an unlikely point in the middle of a forest, but it's a safe bet that the coordinates estimated from the altas are inaccurate. Searching is heavily masked by every other Hopeville in the country. Mangoe (talk) 03:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete "Hopeville is an unincorporated community..." Bollocks. Nothing on USGS topo maps: [2], nothing on Gmaps: [3]; this place seems to exist only in Wikipedia and the GNIS. It's possible the coordinates are an error, but regardless, the "is" in the text make this stub article a lie. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Five Points, Union County, Indiana

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One of a number of five-way intersections in the area/state, I couldn't find anything that specifically related to this one, though I found several references to one which were definitely not this one. There's also a Five Point Creek which attracts hits. As it is, there is one house at the intersection which judging from the style probably dates from the early 1900s, but that's it. No evidence I can see that this was a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 01:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete Only need to look at who the creator is – no need to spend any more time on this than he did on mass-produced falsehoods. Reywas92^Talk 05:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - haven't we already submitted at least 30 deletion requests of these non-notable settlements in Indiana? ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By my count I've submitted 212 so far. Mangoe (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Witts Station, Indiana

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A station on an ex-C&O line. The station nuilfings show up quite plainly on a 1856 aerial and on the 1961 topo, along with a short siding; but except for the house on the other side of the tracks, that's all there is, and except for that house, it's all gone now. The only reference of any substance referred to it (inaccurately) as a crossroads. Just no sign this was a town. Mangoe (talk) 02:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: It's right there in the name, it's just a station (or was), clearly not a community. Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NPLACE. It does appear on maps at least as far back as 1953 but that's probably as a rail waypoint. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yankee Town, Indiana

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A complete nothing-place about which I could find nothing. Note that there is also a Yankeetown, Indiana which is an actual town and which helps confuse searching. Mangoe (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Nonexistent place apart from post-1960 USGS topo maps, which inexplicably call this a "town" despite there being no infrastructure then and certainly not now, just an intersection in the midst of farmland without even a house nearby. Absolute failure of WP:NPLACE and confusing to boot since there is a Yankeetown, Indiana. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Just farmland. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 19:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Windom, Indiana

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It proved impossble, in searching, to get out of the shadow of the former secretary of the treasury, and of a particular agricultural report, but the lack of anything substantial at the location in any topo or aerial indicates that this is one of the those relatively short-lived pre-RFD post offices and not a town. Mangoe (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:NPLACE. Only briefly a post office at most. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Willow Valley, Indiana

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Here we have another WPA-produced puzzle, because every single reference I find for this is rail-related. Aside from a federal case involving the shipment of oack timber, I find references to this as a staging point for the gypsum mill which is indeed still around the corner on a short branch which splits off from this point. There's also the common railroad structure enumeration. But the post office dates are odd. Nonetheless the testimony at this point is that this is and was a rail point and not a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 12:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly a rail point, not a community, failing WP:NPLACE and WP:NGEO. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - agree with WeirdNAnnoyed. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:50, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yenne, Indiana

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A crossroads with one farmstead which judging by the aerials has hardly changed in seventy years. So given that it's named after a postmaster, almost certainly just a 4th class post office. Searching produced lots of people named "Yenne" but nothing of substance. Mangoe (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Location did exist, as the article explains. Article is supported by valid sources. If someone ever searches for this location, it's reasonable to locate this article. There's no harm in keeping it, and no specific violation of Wikipedia policy or guidelines to delete it. Truthanado (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see I will have to spell it out. As a rule, per WP:GEOLAND, only settlements get a pass on having to satisfy WP:GNG, which this place certainly does not: it's barely attested to, and by two sources which have problems. Of you will take a look at WP:GNIS, you can see the kind of problems with it that have caused us to disregard its "populated place" categorization as implying a settlement. In this case it's clear that the place was a 4th class post office, back before RFD, when people had to go and pick up their mail rather than having it delivered. We've found these in all sorts of places, and having it someone's house is quite common. That leaves us with Baker's place names origin book. After all this time in Indiana, it has become clear that when he says a place is a village, he's not very reliable about that.

As far as the "harm" is concerned, first off, the WP euphemism of "community" to describe these places is largely unsourceable. It is quite clear after years of dealing with hundreds of these that "populated place" cannot be taken to imply a town or a "community" because there are too many flat-out mistakes, never minding the whole post office thing. We've consistently held that these 4th class post offices aren't notable. "Community" doesn't mean anything concrete anyway. In a lot of cases we can find turn-of-the-century county histories which are generally pretty clear about places where there was an actual town or at least an attempt to have one. The problem in the large is that these articles were mass-created from GNIS without appreciation of its problems, and in some states (though not Indiana so much) the other sources such as place name books were misrepresented. "Community" seems to have been seized upon in an attempt to have people read these places as towns which satisfy GEOLAND without actually claiming that they were towns. So the issue is really about telling the truth about these places, because if truth were told, that many of these were just places to pick up mail, or places with passing sidings and perhaps a station stop on the railroad, or summer camps and resorts, they would be deleted because they don't satisfy GNG. Mangoe (talk) 12:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per GNG, not more than a post office. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Mangoe's detailed argument on the available sourcing failing GEOLAND and GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Just a onetime post office, fails WP:GEOLAND without high-quality sources (a listing of post offices is no such thing), plus all the reasons nom listed. As for "no harm in keeping it", our articles are constantly being scraped for geolocations and to train AI, and keeping nonsense stubs like this is polluting these data with noise. I just typed "yenne indiana auto detailing" into Google and at the top of the list were two Yelp listings for auto detailing "near" Yenne, and only after consulting a map could you determine they were all 50+ miles away. We don't need to be enabling monetized garbage like this by keeping useless articles on nonexistent subjects. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of professional baseball teams based in Fort Wayne, Indiana

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Unsourced list which seems to fail WP:NLIST. I find no independent reliable sources that justify this being a standalone list. Although each of these teams existed, that does not justify a list. If sources are added, this might be a merger candidate to the section History of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Without any sources, it's trivia that fails notability guidelines. Flibirigit (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Mount Pisgah, Indiana

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There's nothing there, and sources consistently characterize this as a post office. Mangoe (talk) 02:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep However it is not clear to me if this is legally recognized according to WP:GEOLAND which is what my argument is based on. Czarking0 (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please go read WP:GNIS. We have not taken listing in these official gazetteers as legal recognition for a long time, and in any case, GNIS in particular has proven to be fairly error-prone. Mangoe (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: weak keep - might have historical significance. e.g. see this [[4]] Asteramellus (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The story is at least untrue to the extent that this Mt. Pisgah is nowhere near the military base; it's over 150 miles away in a different corner of the state. Mangoe (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No evidence that this ever was a community in the sense required by GEOLAND. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There was more than a post office at Mt. Pisgah. According to Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, April 9, 1921 Page 6 there was a general mercantile store there that sold coffee for the desperate. It is mentioned as a "place" in Hoosier Folklore Bulletin, Vol. 2, No. 1 (Jun., 1943), pp. 14-16. ([5]). So there's a hint that there's more than a post office, but evidence is shy that it was a community. Maddening. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. The comment I'm left with as a closer is "So there's a hint that there's more than a post office, but evidence is shy that it was a community"...so where doesn't that leave us as a consensus of editors?
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Comment. The most common ATD in similar cases would be a redirect to the local township. In this case Milford Township, LaGrange County, Indiana. But IMO,sources remain too thin for even that. Eluchil404 (talk) 18:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with this one, as is usually the case, is that the township article either doesn't mention the place or more typically claims it is an "unincorporated community", i.e., a settlement, when the whole rationale for the deletion discussion is that it is no such thing. If we were going to apply GNG to these, then yes, I would say roll them up into the parent township; but as it stands, these redirects are just an invitation to a subsequent RfD to get rid of them. Mangoe (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - only a post office. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We don't have clear evidence that this meets GEOLAND and a lot of evidence that it is merely a post office. JoelleJay (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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