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2025 shooting of Texas Border Patrol officers

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WP:NOTNEWS. The article was created with the anticipation that the attack would be more notable than it actually was WP:BREAKING. While researching this topic to clean it up there is little to no coverage of the incident just a few days afterwards. Raskuly (talk) 08:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination, very clear cut for reasons given above. Alternatively could redirect to 2025 in Texas. Nayyn (talk) 10:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2025 Vadodara bomb hoaxes

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Does not pass WP:NEVENT. There are a lot of school bomb hoaxes, the coverage here is not extensive. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Article meets WP:NEVENT because This is not a single, trivial event but a series of hoax bomb threats across multiple institutions (schools, airport, power plant, collector’s office) in Vadodara in 2025. It had serious public impact and law enforcement response (evacuations, cybercrime involvement, and arrests).

The event has received non-trivial, significant coverage in independent and reliable sources such as The Times of India, The Print, and Indian Express. Coverage is not routine or passing; it includes detailed reporting, investigation follow-up, and national relevance.

As per WP:NEVENT, this qualifies for inclusion. Deletion is not appropriate when a topic meets both WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT. --Warm Regards, Abhimanyu7 talk 09:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Brugnara

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I am nominating the Luke Brugnara article for deletion because it does not meet Wikipedia’s notability standards for biographies. While the subject has received some coverage due to legal issues, the majority of the article focuses disproportionately on criminal convictions, clearly falls in WP:Crime.

Additionally, much of the content lacks reliable secondary sources and appears to rely on local or sensational media, which may not meet Wikipedia’s standards for verifiability. The article could be viewed as violating Wikipedia’s Neutral Point of View and Biographies of Living Persons policies due to the lack of context and breadth. Unclethepoter (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm not sure tax evasion is notable. Even defrauding an art dealer is a rather low-level crime. I don't see notability otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 20:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep I see [1](subscription required) and [2](subscription required) as sufficient to meet WP:GNG, especially in combination with other sources already in the article. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 23:22, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While [1] and [2] may offer coverage, it's important to consider whether they meet the depth and independence required by WP:GNG. Subscription-only sources can be difficult for other editors to verify, and without access it's hard to assess whether they provide significant coverage or merely mention the subject in passing.

Additionally, much of the existing article content appears to rely on primary or court-related sources, which may not establish lasting notability. WP:GNG emphasizes sustained coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources—not just notoriety from legal proceedings.

Unless stronger sourcing is presented that demonstrates broad, in-depth coverage beyond criminal activity, I believe the redirect may not serve an encyclopedic purpose. Unclethepoter (talk) 06:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Massacre of Uus Street

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WP:HOAX and a devious one considering the subject matter and source falsification involved.
First off, the article today[3] is virtually identical to the version created on 26 February 2017 by User:DJ Sturm with two edits, second as IP [4][5]. DJ Sturm is globally locked by stewards for "Cross-wiki abuse".[6]
Massacre of 83 Jews literally in the middle of Tallinn in 1941 should have been fairly noteworthy event in context of Holocaust in Estonia, but google, google scholar, and google books gave no relevant results which didn't seem to originate back to his article.
Breakdown of source falsification:

Hillgruber, Andreas (1989). "War in the East and the Extermination of the Jews". In Marrus, Michael (ed.). Part 3, The "Final Solution": The Implementation of Mass Murder, Volume 1. The Nazi Holocaust. Westpoint, CT: Meckler. pp. 85–114. ISBN 0-88736-266-4., p. 98. - Hillgruber's article can be seen online here. It makes no mention of this massacre. Stahlecker is only mentioned once regarding Riga.
Haakristi haardes.Tallinn 1979, p. 84 - It can be viewed in digitized form in certain Estonian libraries, so I took a look and again has nothing to do the article's subject or text.
Merila, Toomas (1999). The Holocaust in Estonia. Tallinn: Varrak, p. 77., p. 79. - Fake book. Can't be found on Woldcat, Google Books, or Ester (Estonian online library catalogue). Only Toomas Merila who pops up is sports coach.
Quoted in Eugenia Gurin-Loov, Holocaust of Estonian Jews 1941, Eesti Juudi Kogukond, Tallinn 1994: pg. 194 - Book itself does not seem to be fully available in digital form, but it can be seen that pp 178-214, which includes "cited" pg. 194, should be lists of victims[7][8], and are actually available in some form here [9][10] which does not match in any way text it is used as source for, so taking everything account, safe to say that another fake reference.
Nuremberg Military Tribunal, Einsatzgruppen trial, Judgment, at page 209, quoting exhibit NO-2688. - Einsatzgruppen trial records can be seen here. While there are plenty of mentions for Stahlecker and Estonia, none of them mention the massacre or match text in the article. "exhibit NO-2688" does not exist.
"Report Phase II: The German Occupation of Estonia 1941–1944" (PDF). Estonian International Commission for Investigation of Crimes Against Humanity. 1998. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2011-07-20. Retrieved 2017-02-26. - Again no mention of the massacre. In source Jägala camp is not mentioned in the context of killing local Jews in 1941, but instead then talking about foreign Jews brought into Estonia from 1942 onwards.

Finally I did a little search on what actual historians who have investigated the Holocaust in Estonia have written about this period, and again their descriptions completely contradict the idea of large public massacre in middle of Tallinn.

Anton Weiss-Wendt On the Margins: Essays on the History of Jews in Estonia pp 243-244 (accessible via wikipedia library at de Gruyter [11])

The Estonian case poses a challenge to the generally accepted view of how the Holocaust was carried out in Eastern Europe. Unlike in Latvia and Lithuania, there were no anti-Jewish pogroms or ghettos; no death squads staffed and sometime managed by natives, like the Arājs Commando in Latvia or the Hamann Commando in Lithuania. The daylong mass executions of Jews at the IX Fort in Kaunas or Rumbula near Riga did not happen in Estonia until a year later. Due to fierce Soviet resistance, roughly two-thirds of Estonia’s Jews managed to escape to Russia in the summer of 1941. The remaining one thousand or so Jews were apprehended by the Estonian Security Police, which conducted a pseudolegal investigation into each individual case. Thus, Estonia was spared the atrocities and public humiliation that accompanied the Nazi mass murder of Jews in other East European countries. Most Estonians, if they bothered to think of it at all, believed that justice had been served and that the executed Jews were punished for a reason.

et:Meelis Maripuu THE EXECUTION OF ESTONIAN JEWS IN THE LOCAL DETENTION INSTITUTIONS IN 1941–1942 [12]

As in Tartu and Pärnu, also in Tallinn the arrests of the Jews started immediately after the conquest of the city by the German troops. The lists of the individuals to be arrested, including Jews, were prepared in Tartu already prior to conquering Tallinn. Within three days from the conquest of Tallinn on 28 August the Omakaitse had already arrested 42 “Jewish communists”, 182 members of the destruction battalions, and 150 “other suspicious persons”. Most likely the orders of arrest had been issued by the German military authorities and not by the Security Police and SD. These orders made the Estonian policeman responsible for the arrest of the male Jews. The male Jews were first sent to the political police or to the local police station. Already then they were kept separately from other prisoners. After some days the prisoners were transferred to the Tallinn Central Prison. In the course of the transfer, the Jews were separated from the Estonians and placed in separate cells.

Staberinde (talk) 08:55, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Disappearance of Selene Delgado

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Article full of unsourced claims, and the topic is a rumor, so it's in violation of WP:RUMOR. JohnMizuki (talk) 11:29, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I suppose with better sourcing there could be an article about the "hoax", but we don't even seem to have that. I can't pull up anything about this case. Sourcing now is non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2025 Lexington shootings

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 07:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete this WP:NOTNEWS example. An unfortunately common altercation with a cop gotten out of hand is unlikely to have lasting coverage. Mangoe (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And what about the church shooting? Bloxzge 025 (talk) 15:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Routine crime, not the subject of sustained secondary analysis. Wikipedia is not a repository of news stories, nor should it be. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep not because of the traffic stop shooting, but because the mass shooting at a church. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 15:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Good third party sources. Still interest from media. Cover WP:GNG at this time.BabbaQ (talk) 18:38, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This sadly seems to be another domestic dispute, but the tone of the article as written now is sensationalist and poor. Nathannah • 📮 20:17, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Mass casualty event that has received widespread coverage. Thriley (talk) 21:13, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Mass casualty event where coverage has been around the globe. Notable enough to keep. Nintenga (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom, as tragic as it is, this shooting does not appear to be particularly notable when compared with the list of 30 or so mass shootings that have happened in America in this month so far. Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 23:16, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Tacky nomination. The victims aren't even embalmed yet. Bearian (talk) 01:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to List of mass shootings in the United States in 2025. Mass shootings in the United States (as defined) are almost a weekly occurrence. This would fall under WP:MILL coverage. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 12:42, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as received significant national coverage across major news outlets Macbrindle (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Welcome to the U.S.; it's already out of the news cycle. ^EF⁵ 16:54, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nimisha Priya

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Lacks encyclopedic value or long-term significance, being just one of many similar cases. Created based on news headlines and WP:RECENTISM. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:CRIMINAL, and known solely for one event. Additionally, blood money cases are not new in Kerala, let alone India. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:12, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: She's been reported on since 2024-07-05 (for more than a year now), definitely not recentism 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:20, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've also found this article from the BBC from 2023 ^[1], from First Post in 2022 ^[2] (though I'm not familiar with this source, so happy to be corrected if this article is not reliable). Plus doing a google search filtering by date quickly turns up dozens of articles about the case from as far back as 2020 in predominantly Indian news sources (I am not very familiar with Indian news sources so don't know which ones are more reliable than others). So clearly the case is notable enough to merit a page and it is not a case of WP:RECENTISM. Per WP:CRIMINAL merging the biography into the page for the crime committed or the case, but it is not obvious to me what page this would be merged in to. Perhaps renaming the article might be appropriate, but otherwise a clear keep for me. Giuliotf (talk) 12:13, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep coverage is rather sustained and reflective on societal impact. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:46, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Per above and there is some coverage about her outside the crime in reliable and independent references to the subject. So, it meets general notability guidelines and significant coverage. Fade258 (talk) 14:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep In addition to the points made above, it should be noted that while Nimisha Priya is from Kerala, the alleged murder took place in Yemen, not India as the nominator seems to suggest. Additionally, she is scheduled to be executed in three days, which may initiate further coverage. This also causes me to question the timing of this nomination for deletion. - Ike Lek (talk) 22:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the above responses. The subject's coverage is recent and from reliable sources to warrant an article, and is likely to only increase in the coming days. Surayeproject3 (talk) 23:16, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes notability criteria as mentioned in Wp:GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 07:51, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP. This is about blood money in Yemen, not India. This story has been reported worldwide. No good reason to delte it. Colbfi (talk) 00:53, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep has ben reported since 2024-07-05 passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:31, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as coverage on her topic has been increasing on and off recently and is expected to become more prominent over the upcoming days. Kaeez06 (talk) 03:13, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as coverage of her case has been all over the internet in the United States where I live, far from either Yemen or India, indicating worldwide interest in the case. Clearly notable. Riverhugger (talk) 04:49, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I see significant coverage in reliable sources over a span of 7 years. Bearian (talk) 08:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as this article is of humanitarian interest. Attempts to delete this article can be construed as attempts to shield certain cultures and practices from fair criticism. GradmiralThrawn (talk) 11:09, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Manhunt: Luigi Mangione and the CEO Murder - A Special Edition of 20/20

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Fails WP:NFILM. The couple of sources confirms that WP:ITEXISTS but there's no in-depth coverage. मल्ल (talk) 16:09, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Incredibly standard 'rush to air' episode of a newsmagazine dealing with this type of news regularly as a true crime show. There is nothing unique about this episode of 20/20 compared to other breaking news 'special editions' of the series. Nathannah • 📮 16:12, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge/Delete are there other 20/20 standalone specials that have their own entries? Only one I saw was Bad Romance: A Special Edition of 20/20, which is actually a series. If anything, I think it would make sense for some info/refs from Luigi Mangione and the CEO Murder - A Special Edition of 20/20 to be pulled onto the 20/20 entry, under Special episodes. I understand the level of media attention this topic is receiving, but still needs to follow guidelines rather than be existing due to sensationalism--Burroughs'10 (talk) 17:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge/redirect to Luigi Mangione#Public image per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. Luigi Mangione#Public image says, Mangione has been the subject of multiple documentaries, TV shows, news specials, and a satirical comedy musical. This paragraph could be expanded to briefly discuss Manhunt: Luigi Mangione and the CEO Murder - A Special Edition of 20/20 in a sentence or two. I found several sources about the documentary film: 1, 2, 3, and 4 but they largely were published before the documentary film was aired and are about how to watch it. I did not find any reviews of the documentary film.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of gangs in Australia

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I BLAH'd this to Gangs in Australia and was reverted. This page is an mess of original research seeking to force every Australian gang, regardless of whether they are notable, into some category. There's a section for Hispanic gangs, as if that's a term we use in Australia. The Honoured Society, The Carlton Crew and various other ethnic groups are lumped in with White Supremacists. Lebanese gangs are called mafia (which the sources don't state), and lumped in with Triads and Tongs. Gangs are labelled as being "Indigenous-based", regardless of what the sources say, because hey we're already doing a tonne of original research, why not keep going.
I'm coming here seeking consensus to either WP:TNT it or to restore the redirect to Gangs in Australia.
Ps, there is a discussion currently at Talk:List_of_gangs_in_Australia#RfC:_somewhat_racist_framing which led me to BLAH it in the first place. TarnishedPath^talk 12:56, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I have to say that I agree with the nominator that this article is extremely problematic, to the point where WP:TNT is warranted. There is little of substance here that isn't already present in Gangs in Australia from what I can see, so I don't feel bad about not leaving a redirect either. If a reader really wants to see them laid out in bullet list form, that's what Category:Gangs in Australia is for after all. MediaKyle (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "post code gangs" section might be worth copying to the other page? I've not looked at it closely enough to see if the sources support what it says, but suburbs are at least a lot less subjective than the other categories, and that section has more detail. 2405:6E00:62F:F7D5:AD8E:344B:5FEC:BC07 (talk) 00:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Because deletion is not clean-up and WP:TNT does not solve the problem, either. A redirect just kicks the can down the road until somebody decides to resurrect this list, which is notable, in my opinion. The problem with the article is that it lacks any inclusion/exclusion criteria for what is a gang in the Australian context. I have already identified this issue on the talk page. Various Australian state legislatures have passed legislation that names various entities as "gangs", but without a definition of what is a gang in the Australian context, editors have seen fit to conduct original research to add any group of people that call themselves a "gang" to this list without having any consideration for notability and social attitudes. This list should be limited to included gangs that are notable enough to be named in Australian state or federal legislation, or perhaps otherwise recognized by law enforcement agencies as a (criminal) gang that has been subjected to law enforcement activities as an entity in its own right, not just the individual gang members being treated as criminals. As a minimum, the listed gangs should each have their own article. The article might also benefit from being renamed to clarify its scope, but that is a separate discussion. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some editors cited WP:DINC last time this was up for discussion. In that time (almost three years), the article hasn't been cleaned up. So yes, WP:TNT would solve that problem as it would remove an article that has been and is likely to continue being a very bad example of what Wikipedia has to offer. Likewise a redirect would solve the problem as it would lead readers to an article which is of better quality. Per WP:NOPAGE notability does not guaranteee an article and in this circumstance the best outcome would be to either nuke it, and start anew or redirect to an article that isn't a complete mess and which has some overlap with the list. TarnishedPath^talk 10:17, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there is no good quality list page, then a list section on the Gangs in Australia page makes more sense than keeping a list page that's terrible. Being part of that page also gives room to explain any categories and include references to justify them being included as a category. 2405:6E00:62F:F7D5:AD8E:344B:5FEC:BC07 (talk) 00:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quite correct. There's currently a subsection under Gangs_in_Australia#Outlaw_motorcycle_gangs, which has a list of such gangs. I suggest ditching the list page and anyone who's interested doing it properly on the Gang in Australia page. TarnishedPath^talk 00:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The "post code gangs" section might be worth keeping. That seems more factual and less opinionated, and has more detail, but I haven't looked at it very closely. The rest is a mess. The rest of the page tries to put everything into an ethnic categories with notes like "predominantly Lebanese", categorises things in ways that aren't locally relevant like "Hispanic", and it combines a weird mix of organised crime gangs and politically motivated hate groups like Soldiers of Odin. Some groups are on the border between crime gang and hate group, but that needs more than a dot point to cover properly. 2405:6E00:62F:F7D5:AD8E:344B:5FEC:BC07 (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Gangs in Australia per WP:TNT. I don’t think the issues with this page are fixable through normal editing and I don’t think there is really anything encyclopedic to salvage. This page is completely packed with BLP issues, OR, and problematic sourcing. To name just some of the issues:
- The entire section on the Sunshine Coast either completely fails verification, or is based entirely on a single quote from an anonymous 21-year-old interviewed in 2008 — so the whole section is just one random young person's recounting of what youth gangs might have existed in the city seventeen years ago
- Several entries are incredibly dubiously sourced. For instance, the claim that there are various "Bloods" and "Crips" sets in Australia is based on this source, which does not remotely support that claim
- Several of the gangs mentioned in the "Asian, Triads & Tongs" section are sourced to a parliamentary report that mentions a 1992 report that said that members of those triads might be operating in Melbourne
- The entries in the "Hispanic/Latino" section either fail verification, or are based on scaremongering stories about how Mexican cartels have become part of the Australian drug supply. This story, for instance, does not even mention the Sinaloa cartel

So best case, let’s say we cut every entry that is non-notable or unsourced. You’re still left with a significant number of entries that fail verification or are extremely dubiously sourced, as well as a racial/ideological classification system that is complete OR. Until someone is willing to verify each entry and fix this up properly, I don’t see why this topic can’t be adequately covered on the page Gangs in Australia. MCE89 (talk) 04:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 08:29, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Gangs in Australia per MCE89. Servite et contribuere (talk) 19:49, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crime Proposed deletions

Deletion Review

^ Geeta Pandey (5 December 2023). "Nimisha Priya: The Indian nurse from Kerala on death row in Yemen". BBC. Retrieved 13 July 2025.
^ "Murder and blood money: The case of Nimisha Priya, the Kerala nurse on death row in Yemen". Firstpost. 24 March 2022. Retrieved 13 July 2025.

[1] Geeta Pandey (5 December 2023). "Nimisha Priya: The Indian nurse from Kerala on death row in Yemen". BBC. Retrieved 13 July 2025.

[2] "Murder and blood money: The case of Nimisha Priya, the Kerala nurse on death row in Yemen". Firstpost. 24 March 2022. Retrieved 13 July 2025.

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