User talk:LastJabberwocky

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CS1 error on Freestyle Chess Grand Slam Tour

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Future Days

As per the message on your userpage, it's great that you've decided to help out, but you might want to have a look at this diff. It introduces grammar errors in the second and third lines of the article, which isn't a good look. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 19:50, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ashley Pomeroy, I couldn't find grammar errors, but the lead certainly was incoherent in parts. I tweaked it. LastJabberwocky (talk) 07:41, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

WP:BLPPROD

Hello, LastJabberwocky,

I had to untag several articles you tagged for BLPPRODs because they violated the basic eligibility for this tag: To be eligible for a BLPPROD tag, the entry must be a biography of a living person and contain no sources in any form (as references, external links, etc., reliable or otherwise) supporting any statements made about the person in the biography. In other words, the article was not the biography of a living person but were articles about musical groups or musical acts. BLPPRODs are intended to be for unsourced biographies of individuals, not groups.

Please review WP:BLPPROD if you have any questions about this deletion process. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:10, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

Also, please know that for a BLLPPROD, having external links counts as "sources". But you can always try using a regular PROD instead if an article is not eligible for a BLPPROD. Just supply a policy-based deletion rationale when you tag the article for consideration for proposed deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

@Liz Good morning! I realized the BLPPROD nomination probably wouldn't work on bands since they are organizations/groups, but in all cases I nominated individuals doesn't have, so I thought the group is ALSO their biography (I need read more about BLP :)). I put them for discussion spreading it through a couple of months. LastJabberwocky (talk) 06:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Unlink circular redirects

Hi, and thanks for your work cleaning up the backlog of unreferenced articles! When you WP:BLAR an article, could you try to check if it's linked in the target page, and if so unlink it? This saves people reading the article from thinking "oh, neat, more information about this subject" and then being looped right back where they started. Not a big deal, just a nice bit of cleanup. Rusalkii (talk) 03:06, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder!

Regarding the GA nomination for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, I completely forgot about the authorship part of nominating, so thanks for reminding me about that! I'm currently #6 on the authorship list, so I'm a lot closer to being able to actually nominate it, but I still couldn't have done it without you! - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 00:56, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

@OpalYosutebito No worries, one of my initial thoughts: what if I pick up review anyway; the main of the review is to improve the article and we can do that. But there are so many active editors that contributed to the page and can be potentially hurt (out of top five four are active). BUT I think it's fine. You can already co-nominate the article with the guy/gal with dominant 30% authorship. All if they are busy, you can solo nominate! LastJabberwocky (talk) 05:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

That sounds pretty good to me, but I'll be sure to crack down on it towards the middle of May, when school is over - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 18:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

On the subject of eurobeat...

You recently put up a deletion proposal for eurobeat vocalist for Elena Ferretti. As a eurobeat fan I am sad to see her lack significant coverage but that's par for the course of someone who was only famous in non-English speaking nations. However, looking at other eurobeat artists I have found that many of them use few sources, mostly primary ones. Do you think that maybe these other people should also get deletion proposals? The only artists I can see with some notability in the English-speaking world are Dave Rodgers (although his article isn't the best), Ken Laszlo (solely because of Tonight) and Annerley Gordon (because of her non-eurobeat stuff). GarethBaloney (talk) 21:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

When you redirect articles...

Like here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Revolve_(Danger_Danger_album)&diff=prev&oldid=1288127410 can you then also remove the link from templates? (in this case Template:Danger Danger -FMSky (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Well, I removed several of the links; there is only one stray left. I'll get it! —LastJabberwocky (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ege Bamyasi

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ege Bamyasi you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kyle Peake -- Kyle Peake (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Please stop redirecting articles?

Noticed on your talk page you've been doing this for awhile. I just undid two of your redirects pertaining to Edgar Rice Burroughs characters which, at a minimum, should stay until an AfD discussion. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:22, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Randy Kryn, I'm picking only articles that potentially lack notability and if I can I save them removing notability warning. In this case you're right there are two sources that can be expanded into make an article (for both characters I touched). I'll remove the notability warning. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 15:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. That's what I mean, if there were two mistakes in a row maybe a much more careful look at both the pages you wish to delete (I consider redirects such as this deletions as what people usually do when "redirecting" pages is not merge any of the informative information) and those you've already redirected. Thanks. I just happened to see these two because I have them and the Barsoom navbox on my watchlist. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn Well, I redirected because a character page needs something extra (analysis, cultural impact, discussion by nice sources). In this case they didn't have information that can be merged. Barsoom already has brief bios for both of them and the two book sources. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 15:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I understand that, and have been called an ultra-inclusionist because of things like this, yet full pages on characters from a major series by Burroughs seem notable if sources exist. Maybe if at all questionable you can Afd pages and not just remove them (editors, in some cases many editors, have worked on each page deleted/redirected, and in doing so put their thought and energy into them). Apologies, I don't like criticizing other editors in such a way and hinder their work, just that others have worked on those page too. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ege Bamyasi

The article Ege Bamyasi you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article needs changes or clarifications to meet the good article criteria. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Ege Bamyasi and Talk:Ege Bamyasi/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kyle Peake -- Kyle Peake (talk) 15:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ege Bamyasi

The article Ege Bamyasi you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ege Bamyasi for comments about the article, and Talk:Ege Bamyasi/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kyle Peake -- Kyle Peake (talk) 17:07, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
		This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Precious

good article rescue

Thank you for quality articles such as Ege Bamyasi, for rescuing good articles such as Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', for redirecting less notable topics, for reviewing for good article such as Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott, BWV 80, - Michael, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2971 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
		This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Yaropolk Iziaslavich retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Nicolinas

Thank you very much for taking my GA nomination for the article Nicolinas that was up since September of last year. I’ve fixed the things you pointed out and I’m available to discuss any further details. V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @LastJabberwocky, I’ve done a few more changes, once more, thanks for the review! V.B.Speranza (talk) 20:10, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @LastJabberwocky, is it possible to extend the deadline for me to make the changes? I’ve had a tough week and I don’t know if I’ll be able to conclude the necessary changes until then! Thanks, V.B.Speranza (talk) 19:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@V.B.Speranza Not a problem; we probably here for the next ~month. I'm ready when you are! —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 19:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

@LastJabberwocky Hi! Addressing some things following further changes, i believe I’ve addressed everything marked with the “pending” symbol apart from the bibliography and the PDF formatting. I’ve also made the changes you asked in the text, apart from those I don’t agree on, if you want any explanation or clarification I’m here to help. V.B.Speranza (talk) 21:36, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

@LastJabberwocky Hi I’ve made a few changes and I am more available to do any changes that are still left. V.B.Speranza (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

The World Destubathon

You are invited to participate in The World Destubathon. It's currently planned for June 16-July 13, partly due to me having hayfever during that period and not wanting to run it throughout July or August in the hotter summer and will be run then unless multiple editors object. There is currently $3338 going into it, with $500 the top prize. As 250 countries and entities is too much to patrol, entries will be by user, but there is $500 going into prizes for editors covering the most countries. Sign up if interested! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:21, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This barnstar is given to LastJabberwocky for two straight months of contributions to WikiProject Unreferenced articles with a tally of 258 points as of May 31. Your citations have helped to reduce the backlog by 12,000+ articles since the beginning of the year. To the June backlog drive and beyond! Cielquiparle (talk) 20:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Fulda Symphonic Orchestra deletion proposal

I've entered some information on the Talk Page for this article. Opus33 (talk) 19:16, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024/GA1

Hi there. Apologies for the message out of the blue, I'm a collaborator of Grk1011 over at WikiProject Song Contests, and I noticed you recently did a review of Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. I can see that you're an avid nominator of articles to put through the GA process (as am I!), but I believe that this is your first time reviewing an article, is that right?

While I have no doubts about the work Grk1011 has done on the article, I am somewhat concerned about the speed and process you followed when doing the review on this article. I'm sure you will have seen from articles you put through the GA process in the past that putting an article through the process and engaging with the editor(s) involved is one of the best ways to ensure quality articles, and to make articles even better than when it was nominated. This is why when I saw how bare bones your review was I was concerned, and I'm sure Grk1011 would agree that we were expecting a much more thorough review of this article. It can be very frustrating, given the timescales that are now expected when it comes to waiting for a GA review, that when you finally get a chance to have your article reviewed it is then almost rubber-stamped without any proper comments to work on.

In the past I have had an article's status revoked because of a poorly conducted review, which was powered it turns out by AI, so it's important to know that recent reviews are going to be scrutinised by admins. I suggest you look at the instructions on reviewing GA nominations, and compare your recent review with past reviews on your own articles; hopefully you will see where you have fallen down here. Even if the article is ready to go, just following the instructions and providing some short notes for each of the criteria may be enough, just to show evidence that you compared the article to the criteria and found no issues. Otherwise it gives the appearance that you took on the review and just tapped it through without any proper scrutiny.

I'm saying this just as a concerned editor, and I want the best for this encyclopaedia, as I think all editors do. It just doesn't sit well with me when I see such a bare bones review, when I'm sure Grk1011 was expecting a lot more from the process. I'm not sure what the next step would be now that the review is done and the article has been listed, but I suggest you work together to remedy the situation before more formal action is required, which may mean months more waiting for a proper review. 09:31, 9 June 2025 (UTC) Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:31, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

@Sims2aholic8: Well, when I pick up an article from an experienced editor there are, in most cases, only three things that can be worked out: prose, broadness, and verifiability AKA spotcheck. I checked two of those things (prose and verifiability), and performed c/e myself as I usually do. BUT the thing I forgot is to wait for feedback on the c/e (through usually no one really responds, instead they copy-edit my copy-edit if they deem it necessary). So I closed the review.

Also, people mostly complain when I get picky about everything :). Like my review of Chalandriani with UndercoverClassist who questioned whether some of the suggestion are a part of the GA criteria for prose. I saw his point, but we couldn't get to a reasonable compromise. After that I add prose suggestions a bit more lightly.

The broadness aspect doesn't raise any red flags, but even GA article can be expanded; no need to get 100% of info on the subject. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 10:08, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you to both of you for having this discussion! I do share some of Sims' concerns in that perhaps the review could be a bit more explicit in what was checked. For example, I think the instructions now say that you should list the specific reference links you spot checked. This is mainly to prove to questioning editors and potential GARs in the future that the article did actually have a thorough review before getting to GA in the first place. At the same time though, I hear LastJabberwocky's point that sometimes it really just is a minor rewording here, some punctuation there; all items that are easier to just fix during the read through instead of writing out and having the nominator fix it. I've certainly had reviews before where reviewers were like "you forgot to add a comma, I'll wait". But I guess at least that documents something! Maybe in this case LastJabberwocky, if you could take 15 mins or so and just add a bit more to the review. Maybe that checklist template they have or a link to the diffs where you made the copyedits. I really do appreciate editors that take the initiative to do the minor edits!! Grk1011 (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

June 2025

Hello, I'm Pyrrhic victor. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Tibor Tscheke have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Take a look at our guidelines about external links. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Pyrrhic victor (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Sheila Hutchins

I deprodded this, because there appears to be at least three reliable sources for significant coverage. You may take up the issue at WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 02:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of For Your Pleasure

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article For Your Pleasure you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Cathodography -- Cathodography (talk) 01:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Susanne Nies

Hi, I’ve removed the PROD from Susanne Nies. She doesn’t seem like a clear PROD candidate, given her academic and policy work and senior roles, including chairing the board at Fraunhofer IEE, which is a well-known institution in Germany. If there are notability concerns, WP:AfD would be the more appropriate venue. HerBauhaus (talk) 10:11, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough! —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 10:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Christine McVie album GA nomination

I wanted to express my gratitude to you for taking a look at the article for the Christine McVie album. I'm not sure if you saw this, but I provided some responses to some of the comments you made regarding the Background section. Once I receive further feedback from you, I can begin to integrate these changes. Thanks. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 20:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

I slowly but surely will make progress; hopefully with helpful suggestions. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 07:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Seneca Hawk

This band is arguably notable, so take it to AfD. Bearian (talk) 01:41, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough! —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 07:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Ukrainian Male Chorus of Edmonton

I'd prefer to merge or redirect this to an appropriate article. What do you? Bearian (talk) 01:58, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

@Bearian: Sure! Edmonton doesn't feel like a good merge location. We can merge it into Music of Ukraine#Post-independence as an example of enclaves of Ukrainian music abroad. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 07:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Ok! Do it! Bearian (talk) 07:45, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Cason Cooley

If and only if we could verify that he was a member of The Normals, then we could redirect it. What do you think? Bearian (talk) 02:10, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

P.S. I think redirects are great. Bearian (talk) 02:12, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

P.P.S. What would you think about a redirect of Nelson Ascencio to MADtv? Bearian (talk) 02:15, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Both are really good redirect destinations; I'll make the chamges. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 07:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Bearian (talk) 07:45, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of For Your Pleasure

The article For Your Pleasure you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:For Your Pleasure for comments about the article, and Talk:For Your Pleasure/GA2 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Cathodography -- Cathodography (talk) 18:01, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Question

Hello! I hope I'm not bothering, I'm the editor you promoted the Meg White article to a Good Article with. I do want to eventually push it for a Featured Article (which is a bit ambitious, but I think I'll request a review/some help from the FA mentees) and I wanted to ask your opinion on something: I noticed that in a lot of musician's FAs (Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Lorde, etc) that they have their "Early life" and "Personal life" sections combined into a "Life and career" one. Should I do that for this article too, or would it not be needed? Watagwaan (talk) 18:34, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Watagwaan, I'm still not familiar enough with FA criterias, but will try take part in Meg White FA review! Regarding your question I found three articles that have a "personal life" section (Nick Drake, Janet Jackson, Margaret (singer)). By looking at these six articles, I think the section structure is dependant on the amount of public personal life that can be cited and how well it's connected to their career (i.e Taylor probably the most public person I can come up with and her personal life often influences her songwriting so they can be nicely tied together). I think Meg White's "personal life" section is nice. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 18:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh, cool! Thank you so much for your feedback! Got it, I won't combine it then! Here's hoping we can get this into a FA! Watagwaan (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Watagwaan, Also I need to warn you that Wikipedians are really strict about WP:OVERQUOTING (mostly rightfully so). If a quote can be rephrased without losing meaning, it probably should. Thus, one of the first suggestions on FA, I assume, would be to paraphrase some quotes/parts of quotes. Here's copyvios report on some of the more urgent overquoting. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 19:09, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

The only red/marked quotes and words here seem to be the names of things (i.e Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the White Stripes) save for that first quote we paraphrased about Meg's shyness as a child. Watagwaan (talk) 02:40, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

I did just tweak that quote actually. Watagwaan (talk) 02:43, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of 2015 Kazakhstan Futsal Cup for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2015 Kazakhstan Futsal Cup is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Kazakhstan Futsal Cup until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Svartner (talk) 13:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Taking it Home: Stories from the Neighborhood

Hiya, @LastJabberwocky. You recently added the close paraphrasing tag to the page above, and thank you for caring about copyrights! However as I recently learned, quotes from reviewers are allowed and not considered copyright violations. Opinions are mixed on having what another editor called a "bag 'o quotes," but that seems to be a stylistic issue.

TLDR: quotations as reviews of books, movies = OK. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Good Day LastJabberwocky

Hello

Dear Michael aka Thelastjabberwocky, I am writing to you today regarding myself as being a fan of someone; Dan Davies, who I noticed that their Wikipedia page has been changed. I was aware that it mentions your name as the individual who changed his page. I am hoping that you could find it within yourself to please change it back to the original page it was, because I believe your redirection of Dan Davies (actor) to his film, "Ed Gein, the Musical," was not a solid move, as he is much more talented than just his Ed Gein productions. Dan Davies is also famous for his Nollywood films, especially "A Trip to Jamaica" which opened as the No. 1 Nollywood Box Office Film in either 2016 or 2017 and was screened worldwide on Netflix for two years. Nollywood is considered the second-largest film market in terms of yearly productions in the world. He also had about 10 or so reputable international and US regional references on his page to back that up. I was also able to see his "West of Thunder" film on Hulu back in 2016 or 2017 and that had a measure of national success too. Could you please undo what was done so that it can be accurate and up to date like it was and so that myself and any other fans of Dan Davies can continue enjoying the work that he continues to create. Thank you! DEEMC1970 DeeMC1970 (talk) 21:13, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @DeeMC1970: I redirected Dan Davis (actor) to Ed Gein, the Musical due to the article lack of Wikipedia notability, which is somewhat different from the typical definition of notability, and there are a couple of things required to consider an article notable including significant coverage in independent sources. My assessment of the sources identified lack of such sources; the sources mostly mention him briefly in the cast credits.

To make a fair judgment I'll revert my edit and nominate the article for the deletion discussion on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Wisconsin. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 04:23, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

Good article renominated of 2014 Moscow school shooting

Hello good sir, I've returned to the wiki and renominated the 2014 Moscow school shooting article for GA status.

Russian reference titles have been translated into English with "trans-title=" parameter, the names of Russian sources have been translated into English and the ones that don't have enwiki articles have been linked to the ruwiki article using Template:Interlanguage link. Four sources which you said showed errors have archived versions. Two sources you said didn't work for you, worked for me and they've both been archived.

I fixed the prose issues earlier into the first review, the claim that Gordeyev's lawyer failed to appear at the court hearing is mentioned in the source where you had thought it wasn't. "Due to the failure of the defendant's defense attorney to appear at the hearing on Wednesday, the case will continue on Thursday, December 24." https://rapsinews.ru/moscourts_news/20151223/275108832.html

Just wanted to let you know since you said you'd pick it back up and stuff. 7kk (talk) 16:05, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

I don't know if a barnstar is suitable to show my gratitude, so... hope you like strawberries. Thanks for reviewing 2014 Moscow school shooting. 7kk (talk) 23:20, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Claim for Sergey Letov’s Article Deletion Review

Hello, @LastJabberwocky

Being a fan of Sergey Letov – the well-known Russian saxophonist famous for his incredibly prolific artistic genius, who is composing and performing his own music since 1982 up to nowadays in his unique improvisational manner, actively taking part in live free jazz jam sessions and experimental rock gigs

– well, the other day I was trying to check up some info on his bio turning to his page on Wikipedia to sadly discover it had been lately deleted and redirected to DK (band) page that only marks Sergey Letov as a member of DK band during the years 1984-1989 and provides no additional info other than that. This short period back then in fact uncovers just a glimpse on the multitude of Sergey Letov’s artistic manifestations reflected in his vast discography and live performances records which he still keeps on practicing today in collaboration with various music style bands from Russia, Japan, USA and European Union.

Moreover, one may hear Sergey Letov’s various saxophones, clarinets, flutes and ethnic musical instruments playing not only for clubs and festivals, - nowadays they’re often involved in modern theatre performances and live soundtracks to the early XX century silent movies screenings.

His monthly plannings are steadily booked with his almost daily partaking in a whole bunch of different style music band collabs, cinema sound accompaniments, live stage music performances, live solo projects and endless interviews Sergey Letov is giving to all kinds of press and TV, visiting more and more Russian cities and towns across the whole country sharing his story and his deep expertise in music history and trends of the late 1980s and 1990s, along with presenting his overview on the current century sonoric space and modern art.

Displaying his musical expertise and performing talent in a substantial variety of forms and ways throughout the contemporary art cultural landscape both in Russia and abroad for the last 40+ years by far makes Sergey Letov one of the most productive unique authors of the present day, a living legend of the Russian avant-garde, jazz, punk rock music and scene of the last two: XX and XXI centuries.

It is now that I truly regret arriving so late to realize that the data stated in the article about Sergey Letov on Wikipedia had been kept that scarce and poorly sourced for too long, resulting in eventually being marked as one of questionable notability, which has ended up in deletion of the whole page recently.

It’s a pity I haven’t happened to learn out this issue before – cause as far as I’m concerned, there’s way lots of all sort of data reference in published press on the web, that might have surely complemented Sergey Letov’s article with a much higher standard content than the one that led to its recent deletion.

To your attention – here are some prominent facts based on external proof links to the most outstanding conceptual sonic avant-garde projects featuring Sergey Letov with his musical performances in Russia and worldwide that’ve been lately reflected in high-coverage reliable online sources:

• Published Biography and Interviews

• Discography

• Solo LIVE Projects

• International Collabs with Musicians from all over the World

• Collabs with Russian Musicians

• LIVE soundtracks to the early XX century Russian and European silent movies

• Sergey Letov’s Published Biography and Interviews

Sergey Letov’s Personal Page on Russian Art Archive Network (Russia-USA-Germany)

Biography, Events organization, Events partaking, Documentary Video, Books, Recordshttps://russianartarchive.net/ru/catalogue/person/PCTBA

Sergey Letov has been mentioned in The Oxford Handbook of Soviet Underground Culture

The English-language volume covering a history of Soviet artistic and literary underground: by Mark Lipovetsky, Maria Engström, Tomáš Glanc, Ilja Kukuj, Klavdia Smola; Published online by Oxford Academic – Oxford University Press’s academic research platform: 14 July 2021, Published in print: 11 June 2024.

Sergey Letov is mentioned in Chapter 25 “The Experimental Sounds of Russian Conceptualism: From Historical Musical Avant-Garde to Cultural Underground(s)”, edited by Dennis Ioffe, Chair of Russian and Associate Professor of Russian Studies at the Université libre de Bruxelles (Belgium)

https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/34707/chapter-abstract/337900043

Sergey Letov’s Musical Biography in French “World Greatest Musicians. Sergey Letov” by a French jazz researcher Marc Sarrazi (+ its translation into Russian) (IMPROJAZZ #1, 03.03.2004; FR la Radio Spéciale, 25.06.2016)

In Russian: World Greatest Musicians. Sergey Letov. Part 1: https://specialradio.ru/art/id96/

In Russian: World Greatest Musicians. Sergey Letov. Part 2: https://specialradio.ru/art/id97/

In French: Sergey Letov: http://fr.specialradio.net/art/001/

Sergey Letov’s Personal Page on Jazz Music Archives, an online platform on jazz artists

Biography, Discography, LIVE Albums, Video: https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/artist/sergey-letov

Sergey Letov’s Short Bio by “The Knowledge of the Arts” Group (University of the Arts Berlin, Germany) https://wissenderkuenste.de/texte/filter:autorin/sergey-letov/

Sergey Letov’s Biography on the pages of the Saxon Mozart Society e.V. (Germany)

(mozart-sachsen.de, 24.05.2008)

https://mozart-sachsen.de/kuenstler/sergej-letov/

Sergey Letov’s Bio partially adapted from Wikipedia for Unearthing The Music Database, an online collaborative project uniting info on the European region experimental music actors (database.unearthingthemusic.eu, 12.06.2020)https://database.unearthingthemusic.eu/Sergey_Letov

Sergey Letov’s Big Interview for Regnum News Agency

Recorded by Vladimir Marochkin (regnum.ru, 12.08.2022)

https://regnum.ru/article/3668328

Sergey Letov’s Biography in the Russian rock Small Encyclopedia

(dic.academic.ru, 2001)https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_rus_rock/324/ЛЕТОВ

Sergey Letov’s Personal Page on Kino-Teatr.ru, an online platform on Russian cinema

Biography, Filmography: Sergey Letov has written music for 3 movies (in 1987, 1988, 2013), played a part as an actor in 3 other movies (in 1987, 1989, 2013), gave interviews for 5 documentaries (in 1986, 2006, 2013, 2014, 2022), and also directed a film (in 2013).

https://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/composer/sov/300074/works/

Sergey Letov’s Interview presenting his new autobiography book “Candidate for Buddha” (sadwave.com, 16.12.2014)

https://sadwave.com/2014/12/sergey-letov/

Sergey Letov Mentioned in an article “Red & Hot: The Fate of New Jazz in Russia”, 2011

by Mikhail Mitropolsky for the online music magazine “Perfect Sound Forever”https://www.furious.com/perfect/russianjazz.html

Sergey Letov’s Short Bio by Alexander Osipov aka @Upriamiy Rock (Dzen.ru, 24.03.2025)

https://dzen.ru/a/Z-B4JnLXgFOrdJj3

• Sergey Letov’s Discography

Sergey Letov’s Discography on Apple Music

Abums, Singles & EPs, LIVE Albums

https://music.apple.com/in/artist/sergey-letov/839042871

https://music.apple.com/us/artist/sergey-letov/372666919

Sergey Letov’s Discography on Sound Cloud

User: letovjazz

https://soundcloud.com/sergey-letov

Sergey Letov’s Discography on Discogs.com

30 Releases (23 Abums, 2 Singles & EPs, 2 Compilations, 3 Videos), 13 Appearances (7 Abums, 5 Compilations, 1 Video), 203 Credits (Instruments & Performances (126), Technical (48), Writing & Arrangement (17), Featuring & Presenting (8), Vocals (2), Acting, Literary & Spoken (1), Visual (1))

https://www.discogs.com/artist/1237446-Сергей-Летов

Sergey Letov’s Discography on SwissJazzOrama, the online jazz archive (Switzerland)

https://jazzdaten.ch/de/musiker.php?Musiker=49051

Sergey Letov’s Filmography on TV-Media (Austria)

List of movies featuring Sergey Letov as a composer or as an actor performing music

https://www.tv-media.at/personen/sergey-letov

• Sergey Letov’s Solo LIVE Projects

Sergey Letov: Solo Jazz Concert at Moscow Red Square in the Year of Literature, 2017

Event Report by Ekaterina Zaytseva (godliteratury.ru, 04.06.2017) https://godliteratury.ru/articles/2017/06/03/ya-bolshe-lyublyu-saksofon-chem-slova

Sergey Letov performing Avant-garde jazz on Valentine’s Day at the Novosibirsk Museum of World Funeral Culture, 2015

Event Report by the Museum of World Funeral Culture Press service (musei-smerti.ru, 16.02.2015)

https://musei-smerti.ru/den-vlyublennyih-i-vyistuplenie-sergeya-letova-v-novosibirskom-muzee-mirovoy-pogrebalnoy-kulturyi/

Sergey Letov: Moscow Musical Topography, Free Jazz Album, 2021

Album Review by Denis Stoupnikov (KM.ru, 12.05.2022)https://www.km.ru/muzyka/2022/05/12/kino-v-rossii/897503-sergei-letov-muzykalnaya-topografiya-moskvy

• Sergey Letov’s International Collabs with Musicians from all over the World

Sergey Letov, Damo Suzuki (Japan), Nikolay Bichan, Kate Piterskaya, Igor (Stalker) Vdovchenko, Sergey (Borov) Visokosov, Andrey Romanika Jam Session in OGI Club, Moscow, 2005

Concert Video “Damo Suzuki (CAN) in Russia” (vk.com, rutube.ru, May 2005)

https://vk.com/wall1170833_18790 https://rutube.ru/video/eed426318b54dec7f636450b12827117/

Sergei Letov's Visit to Japan: Performances and Lectures, Tokyo and Niigata, 2017

Event program announcement on a Japanese online blog of the Eastern European Russian Jazz Room (jazzbrat.exblog.jp, 27-30.01.2017) ::

Sergey Letov’s Lecture at Niigata University "Global Avant-garde of the Soviet Union in the 1980s - Research on Avant-garde Art in Local Cities" (27.01.2017, Niigata)

Sergey Letov’s Performance "Improvisational Wind Blows from Russia" + Co-starring: Hisako Horikawa, Masami Suzuki, Yukie Nishimura (27.01.2017, Niigata)

Sergey Letov’s Performance at Nishi-Ogikubo "Aketa's Shop": LIVE with Harada Band (28.01.2017, Tokyo)

Sergey Letov’s participation in the public study group "Post Kuryokhin Studies" at the aqueduct bridge "Ftarri" (lecture + performance): Sergey Letov’s keynote speech: "Improvisation and Avant-garde jazz outside the Russian metropolitan area"; Mini LIVE: Sergei Letov, Jun Kawasaki, Ryuichi Yoshida (29.01.2017, Tokyo)

Sergey Letov’s Performance and Lecture at the Jimbocho Audition Room "Sergey Letov from Russia"; Cast: Masami Suzuki, Hideki Tachibana, Fujiwara Daisuke, Darren Moore, Kevin McCoy, Kenichi Matsumoto (30.01.2017, Tokyo)

https://jazzbrat.exblog.jp/23480895/

Sergey Letov LIVE Records at Soviet Jazz Festival, Zürich (Switzerland), 1989:

- Tri-O - Goat-Boy Giles and Tri-O – Tribute: Sergey Letov, Arkady Shilkloper, Arkady Kirichenko

- Valentina Ponomareva – Sergey Letov

- Combination I: Stephan Wittwer, Hans Koch, Sergey Letov, Valentina Ponomareva, Arkady Kirichenko, Vladimir Tarasov

- Anatoly Vapirov Big Band – The Mirror Of Memory: Vladimir Rezitsky, Vitas Labutis, Askhat Sayfoolin, Vladimir Volkov, Sergey Letov, Oleg Yudanov, Arkady Kirichenko, Konstantin Sedovin, Sergey Belichenko, Oleg Molokoedov, Vladimir Turov, Anatoly Vapirov, Vyacheslav Guyvoronsky, Nikolai Klishin, Vladimir Uvarovhttps://www.discogs.com/ru/release/4016537-Various-Conspiracy-Soviet-Jazz-Festival-Zürich-1989

Sergey Letov, Matthew Shipp (USA) and Joe Morris (USA) Russia and Germany Tours:

- JazzToday Concert in Black Box Club, Münster, Germany, 2010

Event announcement on the online forum platform of Rolling Stone Germany - Mediahouse Berlin GmbH under license from Rolling Stone, LLC (rollingstone.de, 2010)https://forum.rollingstone.de/foren/reply/meine-naechsten-konzerte-reply-id-2263757/

- Concert in Dom Cultural Center, Moscow, 2010

Event Report by Jazz.ru, the Russian online magazine on world jazz music (jazz.ru, 2010)

https://www.jazz.ru/2010/09/29/shipp-at-the-dom/

- Concert in the Ekaterinburg Culture Center “Ural”, 2010

Event Report by the local Ekaterinburg branch of the news agency BezFormata (ekaterinburg.bezformata.com, 2010) https://ekaterinburg.bezformata.com/listnews/trio-metyu-shippa-neozhidannaya/182228/

Sergey Letov and Yoriyuki Harada (Japan) Free Jazz “LIVE” Album, Moscow, 2021

Album Review by Denis Stoupnikov (KM.ru Multiportal, 29.08.2022) https://www.km.ru/muzyka/2022/08/29/persony-i-sobytiya-v-mire-muzyki/899770-sergei-letov-i-eriyuki-kharada-live

Sergey Letov and Jun Kawasaki (Japan) Experimental Music Concert, Kazan, 2019

Event Report by the Modern Culture Center “Smena”, Tatarstan (sntat.ru, 18.03.2019)

https://sntat.ru/news/chistaya-improvizatsiya-na-muzykalnyh-instrumentah-tantsy-pohozhie-na-hokku-v-pare-s-tatarskim-kontemporari-magicheskiy-kontsert-dzyuna-kavasaki-i-sergeya-letova-v-smene-5646286

Sergey Letov, Sainkho Namtchylak (Austria) and Alexey Borisov (Russia) Concert in “16 Tons” Club, Moscow, 2010

Event Report on the site of the “Empty Hills” (holmi.ru, 11.02.2010)

http://holmi.ru/notes/?action=show&id=635

Sergey Letov, Sainkho Namtchylak (Austria) and Alexey Borisov (Russia) Concert in “Fish Fabrique” Club, Saint-Petersburg, 2018

Event Report on the site of Salzburger Nachrichten Medien GmbH & Co. KG (sn.at, 08.07.2018)https://www.sn.at/kultur/allgemein/festival-mit-stimmkuenstlerin-namtchylak-in-st-petersburg-31427338

Sergey Letov and CISFINITUM & FIRST HUMAN FERRO (Germany) Album, 2012

Album Review by Nonpop Magazin (nonpop.de, 2012)http://www.nonpop.de/nonpop/index.php?type=review&area=1&p=articles&id=2372

Sergey Letov and Michael Agre (Israel) Concert in Dom Cultural Center, Moscow, 2007

Event Report by Zvuki.ru Online Music Portal (zvuki.ru, 24.01.2007)

https://www.zvuki.ru/R/P/16004/

Sergey Letov and Yermen “Anti” Erzhanov, Adaptatsiya punk rock band (Kazakhstan) Improvisational Set in the Moscow club “Tochka Sborki”, 2016

Event Report by Denis Stoupnikov (KM.ru Multiportal, 07.03.2016)https://www.km.ru/muzyka/2016/03/07/persony-i-sobytiya-v-mire-muzyki/773227-arkheologiya-geopolitiki-adaptatsii-i-serg

• Sergey Letov’s Collabs with Russian Musicians

Sergey Letov and Sergey Kuryokhin, Pop-Mekhanika, mid-1980-s

“Sergey Kuryokhin: Improvisations and Performances” - a longread published online by Hannelore Fobo (Germany), (e-e.eu, 26.03.2018)

https://e-e.eu/Pop-Mekhanika-in-the-West/index1.html

Sergey Letov and Yegor Letov LIVE Concert in OGI Club, Moscow, 2002

Compilation of the tracks recorded during the brothers duet’s two concerts in OGI Club

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/концерт-в-о-г-и-live/1300584877

Sergey Letov and DDT (band), mid-1980-s

Band member’s page on DDT official site, Saint-Petersburg (ddtworld.spb.ru)

https://ddtworld.spb.ru/fcs/letov.shtml

Sergey Letov, Maxim Amelin, Alexander Alexandrov Music and Poetry Performance in the Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts, Moscow, 2014

Event Report by Zvuki.ru Online Music Portal (zvuki.ru, 29.10.2014)

https://www.zvuki.ru/R/P/34273/

Sergey Letov, Nikolay Rubanov, Edouard Sivkov, Yuriy Yaremchuk – “SAX-MAFIA” Concert, Ekaterinburg, 2005

Event Report on the Ekaterinburg Modern Art Center press release (12.03.2005)https://patent2001.narod.ru/jazzkontsert.html

Sergey Letov and Oleg Garkusha Home Concert in Moscow, 2005

Event Report on an experimental music and literature home concert by Guru Ken (guruken.ru, 08.03.2005)https://www.guruken.ru/guruken/Kvartirniki_kak/

Sergey Letov and Vadim Kurilyov (Elektropartizany), KillDozer: “War Outsiders” Album presentation in the music club “Kitayskiy Liyotchik Jao Da”, Moscow, 2018

Event Report on the site of the News Agency “Krasnaya Vesna” (rossaprimavera.ru, 09.09.2018)

https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/4511f942

Sergey Letov and Valentina Ponomareva “Intrüsion” Album (1988) on Discogs.com

+ Dmitry Mirzoyan, Vladimir Vysotin, Andrey Karpov, Alexander Kuvshinov, Vladimir Tarasovhttps://www.discogs.com/ru/release/3633461-Valentina-Ponomareva-Intrüsion

Sergey Letov and Valentina Ponomareva “Forte” Album (1999) on Discogs.com

+ Alexander Brykin, Valery Zhilin, Anatoly Tlisov, Igor Paraschchuk, Ruslan Kapitonov, Vyacheslav Gorsky, Sergey Manukyan, Igor Bril, La Donna Smithhttps://www.discogs.com/ru/release/6375843-Valentina-Ponomareva-Forte

• Sergey Letov’s LIVE soundtracks to the early XX Century Russian and European silent movies

Defense of Sevastopol (1911, Russian Empire) by Vasily Goncharov and Alexander Khanzhonkov, based on the script of Leo Tolstoy

Online TV-translation on “Russia K” (Moscow, 2016) – one of the TOP-5 federal channels run by the Russian State TV and Radio Company, focused on covering all aspects of modern Russian culture. Talk show with Fyokla Tolstaya on the Russian federal TV channel (smotrim.ru, 08.06.2016)

https://smotrim.ru/video/1533618

LIVE Soundtrack by Sergey Letov and Vladimir Goloukhov (Ekaterinburg, 2014).

Event Report by Denis Kamenshchikov, ITAR-TASS (tass.ru, 27.08.2014)

https://tass.ru/ural-news/1403894

Dziga Vertov (USSR) Documentary Films: The Eleventh (1928), Stride, Soviet! (1926), Interplanetary Revolution (1924), Sixth Part of the World (1926), A Man with a Movie Camera (1929), Kinoglaz (1924)

LIVE Soundtracks in Brussels (Belgium) by Sergey Letov, Olga Nosova (Germany), Valia Chesnais (France), Evgeny Makarov (Russia) covered by «Investig’Action» platform (Belgium) (investigaction.net, 08-12.11.2017)

https://investigaction.net/cycle-de-concertsprojections-sur-le-centenaire-de-la-revolution-sovietique/

Berlin – Die Sinfonie der Großstadt (1927, Germany) by Walter Ruttmann

LIVE Soundtrack by Sergey Letov, Alexey Borisov and Vladimir Goloukhov (Ulyianovsk, 2020).

«The Year of Germany in Russia» Event Report by Mikhail Kamaleev (darykova.ru, 26.10.2020)

https://darykova.ru/film-berlin-simfoniya/

Nosferatu – Eine Symphonie des Grauens (1922, Germany) by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau

LIVE Soundtrack by Sergey Letov and Cisfinitum (Moscow, 2016).

Event Report by Shamil Kerashev and Dmitriy Sosnovskiy, Rossiyskaya Gazeta (rg.ru, 25.04.2016)

https://rg.ru/2016/04/25/sergej-letov-i-duet-cisfinitum-vzhivuiu-ozvuchili-nosferatu-murnau.html

The Glass Eye (1928, USSR) by Lilya Brik and Vitaliy Zhemchuzhniy

LIVE Soundtrack by Sergey Letov and Arkady Marto for Ilya Ostroukhov's House in Trubniki (Dahl State Museum of the History of Russian Literature, Moscow) (Ekaterinburg, 2017).

Event Report by “Broadway” film portal, Kazakhstan (brod.kz, 05.09.2017)

https://brod.kz/articles/steklyannyj-glaz-s-toj-storony-volshebnogo-stekla/

Aelita (1924, USSR) by Yakov Protazanov, based on the novel of Aleksey Nikolayevich Tolstoy

LIVE Soundtrack by Sergey Letov and Sasha Pushkin for the Babylon cinema (Berlin, Germany, 2012) (007-berlin.de, 15.04.2012)

https://www.007-berlin.de/de/20120415de.htm

Obviously, there is plenty of evidence acknowledging Sergey Letov as a public figure regularly featured, cited and mentioned in numerous reliable published sources in Russia and worldwide. Noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, - there’s no doubt, all of this data and yet much more does belong in the article, though it had been so sadly neglected before.

Sergey Letov’s bio page should definitely be added to the Wikipedia's Biographies of living people. For sure, in order for his page to comply with Wikipedia's BLP content policies, certain edition is up to be implemented aiming to enrich his article with more well sourced content to verify the posted information in accordance with the acceptable standard.

In order to provide this new edition at least with the external links I’ve listed above, and to make sure that it is fairly written and properly sourced, I would need to get access to the deleted page edition function, for which I now require your support in reassessing your latest decision to delete Sergey Letov’s article and taking it to deletion review for enabling the process to provide for further undeletion of this page and it’s re-creation for prompt edition.

Hopefully I was clear enough explaining my sincere concern for the historical justice regarding the subject matter, as well as my aware willingness to replenish the bio of my favorite living artist with more relevant information value, while supplying Wikipedia with some freshly reviewed, improved and rectified biographical material about the living public figure – our contemporary Sergey Letov, the Russian composer and musician.

TuneSonicScribe (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

TuneSonicScribe, Hi, commending your effort (even with the use of AI)! I scanned through all the sources you listed, and you're right there are enough reviews of his concerts/soundtrack improvisations to make a "start" article (though, in best case scenario, we would have reviews of his studio work or the work of ТРИ"О"). I'll revive the page and add all the sources I assessed as reliable per WP:RSP and that bring substantial coverage. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 10:08, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

@LastJabberwocky, Hi, appreciating your prompt response and the article rapid revival! In fact, I happened to use no AI assistance to collect the info for my claim, apparently that being the reason why I had totally missed out mentioning ТРИ «O», which you have been so right to recall now.

I’m completely new to editing on this platform, so it’ll take me some time to figure out how to operate here. Gradually I’ll start helping to improve this article, first of all by introducing more precise citations to link with the list of general references you’ve added recently, as long as the page issue notification states that sufficient corresponding online citations is what the article lacks today. TuneSonicScribe (talk) 07:07, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

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