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Deprecated tags

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The thing about deprecated tags like <tt> is that they're deprecated — they are not prohibited. Some day I'll get around to learning the alternatives, but since the legacy tags do work and aren't prohibited, if I'm in a hurry (as I was yesterday), I'm going to keep using them. I'm sorry if you feel this causes you extra work, but it needn't cause you extra work, because you don't have to go around fixing them (especially on talk pages) — as they cause zero problems. —scs (talk) 18:50, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Scs, they're not prohibited, but they are a problem as per Wikipedia:Linter. I don't have a problem with you using them once, but after I've corrected it, it feels a little like taking the piss if you do it again. because you don't have to go around fixing them I don't have to do anything on Wikipedia. I fix them because I enjoy fixing them; conversely, I dislike it when editors repeatedly create more of them. I don't really want to argue over such a minor point, so please just use {{mono}} which produces exactly the same output. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:01, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your explanation.
I don't want to argue, either.
I can probably remember to use <code> instead of <tt>. —scs (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Charlieplay06 (19:36, 11 October 2025)

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can you help me make more interesting aritcles --Charlieplay06 (talk) 19:36, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlieplay06, you appear to be WP:NOTHERE. You will be blocked if you do not edit Wikipedia constructively. Qwerfjkltalk 19:48, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Alerak on Draft:Kalamandalam Sivadath (05:28, 13 October 2025)

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How do I create citation ? --Alerak (talk) 05:28, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alerak, see Help:Referencing for beginners. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:17, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Ahtanum (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is:

  • a disambiguation page with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" which lists only one extant Wikipedia page (i.e., there is a primary topic);
  • a disambiguation page that lists zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
  • a redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" whose target is neither a disambiguation page nor page that has a disambiguation-like function.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:47, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-42

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Question from DavidThelen40 (18:58, 13 October 2025)

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Hello. How are you? I am running as a “no party preference” candidate for California Governor 2026. The voting will be June 2, 2026. My campaign financing is registered under ID 1483699 of the California Secretary of State website. How can I add my name on this Wikipedia as NPP candidate for California Governor 2026? My website is thelen4californiagovernor.com --DavidThelen40 (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DavidThelen40, I assume you want your name added to 2026 California gubernatorial election#No party preference? I've added you because you're listed on https://www.kcra.com/article/california-governor-race-2026-candidates-key-dates/64569441. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:35, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much!!! The biggest reason why I am running is to become that one drop of an enzyme to bring peace in a world full of hate. I used to tutor college classes, including physics, in it were the knowledge of Newton’s 3 laws of physics, and quantum mechanics. If our politics get off track away from issues and instead name call. It will increase the hate quantum level higher around the world, a nuclear war will break out. That’s why my campaign will concentrate on issues as an Independent. DavidThelen40 (talk) 22:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MassCfD does not accept some title formats

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MassCfD's tool for adding to old nominations does not accept some title formats that are equivalent to the standard form. In particular, it does not accept underscores, which impedes processing of CfD section names copied from URLs. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 18:56, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

LaundryPizza03, Special:Diff/1317013444 should do it, let me know if there are any errors. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:37, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bazimaziki haragirimana theogene on Help:Getting started (19:35, 15 October 2025)

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Hello --Bazimaziki haragirimana theogene (talk) 19:35, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! — Qwerfjkltalk 20:38, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from 07040351567ibi on Cache manifest in HTML5 (00:34, 16 October 2025)

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Hello 07040351567ibi --07040351567ibi (talk) 00:34, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! — Qwerfjkltalk 08:55, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from It's Me Plato (13:39, 16 October 2025)

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Hello, I don't really have a question just signing on for this and hoping to contribute to Wikipedia community. --It's Me Plato (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Swepf (16:31, 17 October 2025)

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Hello! I was writing a wikipedia page and using my sandbox to draft it because I thought that was the correct thing to do. Now the data is completely gone. Is there any way to recover this? --Swepf (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swepf, if you didn't click on the button "Publish changes", then you didn't save it. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:43, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project

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Copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project because this page is listed on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe.

Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Abstract Wikipedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki that will enable users to combine functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata in order to generate natural language sentences in any supported languages. These sentences can then be used by any Wikipedia (or elsewhere).

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with votes beginning on 20 October and 17 November 2025. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on mid-December 2025. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you!


-- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 11:42, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-43

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The Signpost: 20 October 2025

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And the "Global Resource Distribution Committee" emerges.
Two shortlisted WMF Board candidates removed from the ballot.
Who was bumped and why?
...while Musk prepares to launch "Grokipedia".
Serial-killer miniseries, deceased scientist, government shutdowns and Sandalwood hit "Kantara" crowd the tubes.
Don't get too excited before you read this.

(draft & Sockpuppet investigations )Delete request sir please help

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Sir, can you help us in deleting the draft? Anyone who comes and tampers with the draft created by me goes away, that is why my name gets implicated, Sir And I sincerely apologize for my past mistake and will be careful in the future.(Sockpuppet investigations Help us delete it) Draft:Ramkripalyadavg (YouTuber) Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ramkripalyadavgeo/Archive 2409:408A:2E1D:C3F8:0:0:D44B:DD07 (talk) 20:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2409:408A:2E1D:C3F8:0:0:D44B:DD07, there is no need to delete it. It has been rejected and will be deleted after 6 months per G13. If you are the same editor who was blocked for socking, I suggest you make no further edits. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:28, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Growth News #35

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10:23, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

DRV

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Swedish Hockey League players. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Geschichte (talk) 13:42, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Qcoder1530 on User talk:Qcoder1530 (14:55, 22 October 2025)

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How do i show this in mt profile i have a learning difficulties reading etc

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
    <meta charset="UTF-8">
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
    <title>Unified Science - The (Q) Model</title>
    <style>
        * {
            margin: 0;
            padding: 0;
            box-sizing: border-box;
        }
        
        body {
            font-family: 'Segoe UI', Tahoma, Geneva, Verdana, sans-serif;
            background: linear-gradient(135deg, #0a0e27 0%, #1a1f3a 100%);
            color: #e0e0e0;
            padding: 20px;
            overflow-x: hidden;
        }
        
        .container {
            max-width: 1400px;
            margin: 0 auto;
        }
        
        h1 {
            text-align: center;
            font-size: 3em;
            margin-bottom: 10px;
            background: linear-gradient(45deg, #00f2ff, #7a5cff, #ff6b9d);
            -webkit-background-clip: text;
            -webkit-text-fill-color: transparent;
            text-shadow: 0 0 30px rgba(0,242,255,0.3);
        }
        
        .subtitle {
            text-align: center;
            font-size: 1.2em;
            margin-bottom: 40px;
            color: #00f2ff;
        }
        
        .q-core {
            text-align: center;
            font-size: 2.5em;
            margin: 30px 0;
            padding: 30px;
            background: radial-gradient(circle, rgba(122,92,255,0.2) 0%, transparent 70%);
            border: 2px solid #7a5cff;
            border-radius: 20px;
            box-shadow: 0 0 40px rgba(122,92,255,0.4);
        }
        
        .q-value {
            color: #00f2ff;
            font-family: 'Courier New', monospace;
            font-size: 0.8em;
        }
        
        .science-grid {
            display: grid;
            grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fit, minmax(300px, 1fr));
            gap: 20px;
            margin: 40px 0;
        }
        
        .fiel

--Qcoder1530 (talk) 14:55, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Qcoder1530, you appear to be WP:NOTHERE. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bill-pr (22:08, 23 October 2025)

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Hello dear mentor! I'm looking to publish information about our company to Wikipedia - after noting that other companies in our market segment have done the same. All information is going to be factual, but this is my first time posting on Wikipedia, so would appreciate any guidance. Have posted at my sandbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bill-pr/sandbox --Bill-pr (talk) 22:08, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bill-pr, Wikipedia is not a place to advertise your company. Are you being paid for this? — Qwerfjkltalk 08:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is exactly why I posted it to my sandbox, and not as a public page first. I am an employee of PublicRelay - but I am legitimately trying to inquire how do we put information about our firm up so that people seeking information can find out more about our firm, just like the other companies in our space. Based on a helpful reply by another Wikipedia person, I've been referred to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion - and I'm now trying to understand more about the process. Bill-pr (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bill-pr, it is very hard for someone with a conflict of interest to write a Wikipedia article that meets Wikipedia's standards for neutrality. I note you didn't answer my question - are you being paid for this, or are you doing so unofficially as an employee? — Qwerfjkltalk 18:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not being paid for this, I'm doing so unofficially as an employee. I'm trying to understand the process by which a company does get their name listed on Wikipedia. I'm reading the pages for other companies in our space and have a much better idea now of the neutral wording which is required, but are you able to tell me I'm prohibited from contributing this type of article or not? I really appreciate your guidance. Bill-pr (talk) 18:35, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bill-pr, you are not prohibited, just make sure you follow WP:DISCLOSE. You can follow the advice at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide#Advice, bullet point 4. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:14, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, will comply. Is it okay if I post to my sandbox page, to get a review, before attempting to make the actual page, so that I can get a review first? Bill-pr (talk) 11:12, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bill-pr, it is more than okay, I would strongly advise you to do so. Of course, if the draft version is wholly promotional, it will be deleted as before. Qwerfjkltalk 12:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
that's a good bit of infermation thoughtful thank you Qcoder1530 (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ottawavalleyeditor73 (10:25, 24 October 2025)

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Hi. When is my page going to be published? --Ottawavalleyeditor73 (talk) 10:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ottawavalleyeditor73 (10:30, 24 October 2025)

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Hi. I started my application about 2 months ago and just want to know if I still need to do something or if I am just waiting for direction. Thanks --Ottawavalleyeditor73 (talk) 10:30, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ottawavalleyeditor73, if you look at Draft:Kevin Holm or User talk:Ottawavalleyeditor73#Your submission at Articles for creation: Kevin Holm (August 23), you will see it was declined. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:31, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While investigating editintros, I've stumbled upon the page User:Qwerfjkl/Boteditintro. Example from Special:Diff/1318866030:

you can report it to my operator.

When clicking it either in the same tab or opening this URL in a new tab, I do not see the contents of User:Qwerfjkl/Boteditintro. I also checked logged out and in a different browser.

Did it break or am I doing something wrong? Courtesy ping to User:GoingBatty, who created the page.

Side note: User:Qwerfjkl/Botpreload seems to work fine. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:50, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrybak, to my recollection, it never worked. Any idea why? — Qwerfjkltalk 14:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After poking the URL a bunch, I realized that there is a typo: the URL has User:Qwerfjkl/boteditintro instead of User:Qwerfjkl/Boteditintro with a captital "B".
Tested: [9] – the editintro loaded, but it was overlapping the wikitext editor, making it hard to read and edit the wikitext. After removing the offending CSS, it is working as intended, as far as I can tell.
I have fixed the URL at User:Qwerfjkl (bot)/inform/bottom. Is there anything else to do? —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:13, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anything else to do? never mind, just a minute after the fix, the bot made an edit and I see the fixed URL there: Special:Diff/1318887999. —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Side note: checked another thing with the CSS – it also didn't look good in dark mode because of background-color:white;. —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:45, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for your cleanup work. — Qwerfjkltalk 12:59, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-44

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Question from Kktr2025 (17:43, 29 October 2025)

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hi ... i need help in submitting a request to consider some change in page i don't have rights to edit. is there any place i can submit it. it seems because of the topic is marked in category of South Asia and related to religious groups, i cannot even submit coi requests in talk page. --Kktr2025 (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kktr2025, please keep discussion of this matter at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Persistently my community is labeled as a cult in wikipedia. I cannot help you any more than the advice given there. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Basxto

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Page: The_Battle_for_Wesnoth

Diff: Special:Diff/1319434974

Comment/question: The data is pulled from Wikidata

Basxto (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Basxto, yes, one of the references on Wikidata is missing a title. You can add a title to the reference on Wikidata to fix this. Qwerfjkltalk 21:13, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They all had no title, I just added them.
Though for wikidata this should be a recurring problem independent to the edit on Wikipedia. I had to scroll up quite a bit to find some with a title.
Maybe it would be more helpful to print a different message that tells the user to add a title (P1476) to the reference URL on Wikidata? At least if you can detect that it is a linked to Wikidata object. Basxto (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Basxto, only the latest version was used in the article, so that's the only one that needs a title for the error to go away (although it is better if all the references on Wikidata have titles). The problem isn't independent to the edit on Wikipedia, because you introduced content from Wikidata (and so it's your responsibility to ensure it's accurate).
Finally, with the way my bot works, it cannot detect which reference is causing the error, much less whether it originates from Wikidata, so it wouldn't be possible to give a more informational message. Qwerfjkltalk 10:52, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kktr2025 (07:31, 30 October 2025)

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The matter is clearly clarified. I need to earn 500 proper edits to be able to ask for help (submit COI edit requests) from other editors no associated with the subject. I am a bit apprehensive of what amounts to 500 edits, what rules apply, what is expected, will my purpose of making these edits to ultimately be able to submit a coi disqualifies me, or as long as i do contributive edits it is acceptable? --Kktr2025 (talk) 07:31, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kktr2025, you can go to Wikipedia:Task Center, find something that looks manageable, and do 500 edits of that. If you try to game the system by making 500 test edits in a sandbox, the extended confirmed right would probably be removed. Per Wikipedia:Gaming the system#Gaming of permissions, so long as the edits aren't test edits or trivial (like adding whitespace to the ends of paragraphs), this is legitimate, to my understanding. Although you can ask at the Teahouse thread and you may get more informed responses. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think i can ask in that teahouse thread, maybe make another thread. The message in that particular teahouse thread was clear ... I cannot even discuss ... ; The reason why I asked you is (one because wikipedia showed me you are my buddy) second I am 100% inclined to go proper decent edits ... but rules are sometimes shocking and I don't want to unknowingly fall into issues. I will come back and ask doubts if I have. Let me try what you said and see. But one more thing, how to check how many edits I have done, means proper ones ... what really counts? Is there a wiki automation/plugin/template to tell that which i can add to my talk page or profile? Kktr2025 (talk) 15:01, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the trouble. But would appreciate a review feedback. Actually I did a first edit using visual editor - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=System_file&diff=1319564259&oldid=1301250383 - does this count as a valid contribution or it is too low level to count? I basically went to the list of articles lacking citation and chose this and added the best citations i could find on the topic. Kktr2025 (talk) 15:49, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kktr2025, you can find your edit count at Special:Contributions/Kktr2025 (there is a link to contributions in the dropdown menu at the top right of the page).
The edit you made has a few minor problems, but it is a reasonable edit, and definitely a net improvement to Wikipedia. The minor issues are that using "(emphasis mine)" in quotation should be avoided - probably the emphasis isn't needed at all, and also Wikipedia articles are written from a impersonal perspective, so "mine" shouldn't be used. Also the article has the tag {{Unreferenced}}, which is no longer true because you added a reference; you can remove it and replace it with {{More citations needed}}.
But these are just improvements to your edit; your edit itself was fine, Qwerfjkltalk 21:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thank you so much for the detailed support Kktr2025 (talk) 06:24, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the reference was to a patent, and surely not the best .... but I couldn't find anything better https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Graphical_user_interface_builder&diff=1319676350&oldid=1319676246 I am not sure why it got reported a vandalism. Is it because i referenced french wikipedia page? Kktr2025 (talk) 06:56, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees

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Copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees because this page is listed on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe.

Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers.

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:

Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki. Post to the talk page or email cst(_AT_)wikimedia.org with any questions you may have.

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Question from RotKid (17:48, 30 October 2025)

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Hi! How do I add images? I want to add images I took of a Greater Antillean Grackle in the Dominican Republic to the gallery, but I have no clue how to add my own media/naming conventions. Thank you! --RotKid (talk) 17:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RotKid, go to Wikipedia:File upload wizard and the steps to upload a file should be obvious from there (you can ask me if you need additional help). The important thing to note is that you will need to license your images freely, meaning that anyone else will be able to reuse them, even outside of Wikipedia, even for commercial purposes. You can find further information on this at Wikipedia:Image use policy. At Wikipedia:Image use policy#Image titles and file names, there is some advice on how to name the file.
In terms of using that image in the gallery, it should be fairly easy with the visual editor (which is used by deafult) - just edit the page, select the gallery, choose edit, and then +Add new image. Qwerfjkltalk 21:30, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]