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Asia

Eastern world

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The article Eastern world lacks substantive standalone content and functions primarily as a vague conceptual overview rather than a clear, encyclopedic entry. Its entire premise centers on the assertion that "Eastern world" is an imprecise, shifting term with no consistent, coherent definition or shared identity. This limited scope makes the article redundant to the more comprehensive and analytically grounded article East–West dichotomy.

Specifically:

Redundancy in Scope

The main theme of the article is that "Eastern world" is an arbitrary and constructed label, often defined externally (especially through the lens of Orientalism and colonial-era discourse). This point is already treated in depth in East–West dichotomy, which provides a better historical, cultural, and geopolitical framing of the East-West concept. Maintaining both articles fragments the discussion and duplicates content.

Lack of Independent Definition

The article acknowledges that the "Eastern world" lacks a singular cultural, historical, or political identity. It doesn't offer a distinct set of characteristics, events, or structures that justify a separate encyclopedic entry. Instead, it serves as a footnote or sub-topic to the broader, more rigorous discussion of how the "East" has been constructed in contrast to the "West."

Orientation by Negation

Rather than defining what the "Eastern world" is, the article focuses on what it is not — namely, that it lacks clarity, coherence, and a universally agreed-upon definition. This undermines its value as a standalone encyclopedic topic and confirms that the concept is better treated within a broader analytical framework.

Better Treatment Elsewhere

Concepts like Orientalism, the Global South, regional classifications (East Asia, South Asia, etc.), and postcolonial studies already cover the cultural and geopolitical identities discussed here. The current article adds little that is not already better explored in these other contexts. Hassan697 (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fazal Ali Khan

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This individual article fails in WP:GNG, and WP:SIGCOV. There is only passing mention in news articles from a single news organization. The other two sources also have only WP:TRIVIALMENTION that he was the son of Chaudhri Sultan Ali that doesn't confirm the notability even when his father's article doesn't even exist. Delete this article per WP:FAILN. Sybercracker (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom, the nominator has a best reason. It seems article have many issues with sources. Dolphish (talk) 00:18, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aheria

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Qualified for deletion policy, unsourced, one line article. Dolphish (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tahirkheli

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GNG fails, not enough coverage Dolphish (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – This page has been dramatically shrunk over time. It seems to have had issues with edit warring and original research. Some of the sources it used to cite included [1] and [2]. – Ike Lek (talk) 04:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2027 FIFA Women's World Cup qualification (AFC)

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Unnecessary duplication of 2026 AFC Women's Asian Cup qualification and 2026 AFC Women's Asian Cup. Article titles of this format, i.e. World Cup qualification (confederation), are generally for stand-alone tournaments, such as those hosted by CONMEBOL, OFC, and UEFA this cycle. AFC has indicated they will hold a stand-alone tournament for the 2031 FIFA Women's World Cup. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:07, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages because they also unnecessarily duplicate the qualification and main tournament pages for their respective confederation tournaments:

— Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:19, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom, as duplication. Giant Snowman 18:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning redirect to 2027 FIFA Women's World Cup qualification#AFC per WP:CHEAP and WP:ATD. Servite et contribuere (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why is this not listed in deletion sorting for Sports and Football? Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article is showing complete process of Asian qualification to the 2027 FIFA Women's World Cup, Asian Cup and its qualification both are part of Asian World Cup qualification, so they should be present at same place. WikiEditPS (talk) 16:28, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiEditPS: The issue is that none of the nominated articles add anything that would not already be covered in the other articles. See WP:NOPAGE. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:43, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into one of the suggested articles. It took me a bit to wrap my head around this, but it clearly is the same thing as mentioned in the nom. Metallurgist (talk) 02:39, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Afghanistan

Abdul Rahim (athlete)

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference is a database, and I couldn't find anything better either on the corresponding wikis or elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 00:12, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Afghanistan at the 1936 Summer Olympics#Athletics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 01:34, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uruzgani (Hazara tribe)

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Fail in GNG, WP:RS and largely dependent on only one source. Sybercracker (talk) 02:42, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – Well, it looks like they exist as a real tribe or subtribe [3], but most uses of the word Uruzgani seem to more broadly refer to people from the Uruzgan region, even if that is also what the subtribe is called. – Ike Lek (talk) 07:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can add more sources? Sybercracker (talk) 20:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can try, but it is proving difficult. It clearly isn't a WP:HOAX, so ideally we find a way to save the page if we can. The only language I speak fluently is English, which is limiting, and the word Uruzgani is also sometimes used to refer to anyone from Uruzgan. Not all Hazara groups in Uruzgan are Uruzgani Hazara, so it really complicates searching. Hopefully we can save the page, but if more sources can't be found, then we might have to delete the page even though it contains good information, because it isn't backed up by more than one RS. Ike Lek (talk) 22:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Julga Bahador

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Non-notable village without significant coverage in independent reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 12:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect was moved from its longstanding title at Nawur and then converted to an article. No idea what that was supposed to accomplish, but it should be reverted to status quo ante.REAL_MOUSE_IRL talk 12:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For more sources search "جلگه بهادر" in google 203.171.101.85 (talk) 13:43, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

جلگه بهادر 203.171.101.85 (talk) 13:46, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:NSETTLEMENT.

Ike Lek (talk) 01:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

it is fact that reliable and accessible information about geography of Afghanistan- such as Julga Bahador limited, Hence, it is important that the article on Juga Bahador should be published and accessible, in order to facilities public access to reliable information about Afghanistan geographical regions.

𝒜𝓈𝓈𝒶𝒹 𝐵𝒶𝒽𝒶𝒹𝑜𝓇𝒾 (talk) 10:49, 9 July 2025 (UTC) — AssadBahadori (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Karategin Uzbeks

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Fails WP:GNG, The article doesn't cites any sources and is possibly a WP:HOAX as there is no information about it anywhere to confirm if it even exists. Koshuri ^(グ) 11:34, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks brother, yes historically Karategin was inhabited by Tajiks and Kyrgyzes even in sources that were mentioned in article it is written byt no mention of Uzbeks Amir TJK (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I'm slightly confused why you say the article doesn't cite any sources. It does lack inline, but for that throwing Template:No footnotes on it for a bit might be the better course of action. Unless someone can access the sources it does list and has evidence that they are unreliable, I see no reason to assume they are. Still, I can understand some suspicion about it, and would love to hear from @Фанис Шарбеков: about where they got their sources. - Ike Lek (talk) 06:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're making a WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument, If you think there are sources which provides WP:NOTABILITY to the subject then find and cite them here.
I'm slightly confused why you say the article doesn't cite any sources. – I said it cause there is literally no citation present in the article, I don't see any reason to be confused here. I have already checked Karategin Uzbeks#Sources, The section only mentions names of some sources, However there no mention of any ethnic group called Karategin Uzbeks. Koshuri ^(グ) 13:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying there are for sure sources, I'm saying there are listed sources in the article, even if they aren't properly cited. I would want to hear about them before I decided they weren't legit. Ike Lek (talk) 18:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no mention of Karategin Uzbeks in them either. I checked them before starting the AfD. Koshuri ^(グ) 07:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, odd. There seems to be some mention of them here:
https://jamestown.org/program/will-tajikistans-karategin-valley-again-become-a-militant-stronghold/, granted it seems to be about a different group than the one the article claims exists.

https://ijmmu.com/index.php/ijmmu/article/view/2550 - I would love if someone could track down the sources this cites.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344736287_Ethnic_Composition_Of_The_Population_Of_Uzbek_Khanates - full text is available free if you look around a bit.

There are clearly a significant number of Uzbeks in the Kabul area; however it is unclear if they match description given for this particular ethnic subgroup. If it does turn out to be a hoax, the these commons files need to be re-evaluated:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Karategin_Uzbek,_1924,_Kabul,_Afghanistan_(b).png

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Uzbek_Karategin_phenotype_of_Balkh,_Bactria_Afghanistan.jpg

I can understand some suspicion; I definitely have some, but it does seem like the group is more likely than not to actually exist. Ike Lek (talk) 07:41, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These sources only talk about other uzbek ethnicities, The first one does mentions a few lines about Uzbek settlement in Karategin however do not mention them as a ethnic group and has no WP:SIGCOV either; February 1999 terrorist attacks in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, frightened the Uzbekistani authorities into indiscriminately arresting religious dissenters. Consequently, emigration from Uzbekistan to Tajikistan became a mass movement, with whole families fleeing and resettling in the Karategin Valley. Military camps also sprang up alongside civilian Uzbek settlements in the Karategin. [4] Koshuri ^(グ) 12:25, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first article is not about the ethnic group, but the other two contain mentions of the Dormon Uzbeks. Ike Lek (talk) 16:27, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do they have WP:SIGCOV? Koshuri ^(グ) 18:21, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The last one might, but definitely not on its own. I'm first just trying to verify that they exist and aren't a hoax before I invest the time to demonstrate notability. I'm not super attached to the article. I'm just trying to make sure it gets a fair defence, so we aren't erasing the existence of an ethnic group from the English internet if they are real. - Ike Lek (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There have never been Durman (Dormon) Uzbeks in Karategin. The Durman Uzbeks traditionally lived in the Gissar Mountains, while Karategin was inhabited exclusively by Tajiks and Kyrgyz. None of the sources I consulted indicate that Uzbeks ever lived in Karategin. The picture depict Tajiks from Karategin living in Kabul, as the original source identifies them as Tajiks. You also mentioned Uzbeks in Kabul, which is true — but they are not Durman or Karategini Uzbeks. In fact, there are many different Uzbek tribes and groups in Afghanistan and Kabul, not only Durman.

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Karen Vardanyan

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:10, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.OPHYRIUS ^⚔ 04:38, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A quick look at the translated Armenian wiki version of this article shows that the subject clearly meets WP:NPOL as a former member of the National Assembly of Armenia for the ARF party. [5] ⁂CountHacker (talk) 08:43, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — Karen Vardanyan is a prominent Armenian businessman and philanthropist, actively involved in public life, including as the head of one of Armenia’s largest holding companies. There are numerous independent Armenian-language sources confirming his notability. I will help improve the article by adding the appropriate references.

Gbp190 (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Karen Vardanyan is a notable Armenian businessman and philanthropist, widely recognized in Armenia.

He is the CEO of the largest confectionery producer in Armenia and a prominent public figure. His contributions span across business and philanthropy. He has been covered extensively in reliable sources, including major Armenian news outlets.

Moreover, this article exists in both Armenian and Russian Wikipedias, which further supports his regional notability. The English article has been improved and now cites multiple independent and verifiable sources, demonstrating that the subject clearly meets Wikipedia’s WP:GNG.

Deleting the article would mean erasing the presence of a significant figure in Armenian economic and social life from the English-language encyclopedia.

- Conclusion: The article meets notability criteria and should be kept.

Anna Manasyan (talk) 11:12, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As noted above, sources exist in other languages including Russian and Armenian that establish notability. Some effort has already gone into adding these to the article. The formatting is bogus in several places, but that can be resolved outside of AfD.
Gbp190, there is a template at {{ill}} or Template:Interlanguage link. This will add both a red link for the en-wiki article and blue link to the article in another language. When another editor gets around to creating the red-linked article, it will then automatically turn into a regular wikilink. When you add sources in the standard source editor, templates need to be closed within curly braces to work. So <ref>{{cite web|...}}</ref> rather than <ref>cite web|...</ref>. You can also use the drop-down menu in the source editor's toolbard under "v Cite" and "Templates v"; this gives an easy form to fill out for the 4 most-used citation templates. Thanks for taking the time to track down sources and improve the article, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Azerbaijan

Bangladesh

Bangladeshi Football Ultras

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As pointed out in the first AfD a year ago, the article has a number of conflicts of interest, with accusations of paid interviews being used as fake sources, besides going beyond the scope of the project. Svartner (talk) 21:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinging @আফতাবুজ্জামান: to help with the analysis again if possible. Svartner (talk) 21:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and SALT - per last AFD. Giant Snowman 19:10, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daulatpur railway station (Khulna)

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Disputed redirect without improvement. Zero in-depth sourcing and searches did not turn up enough to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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redirect to Darshana-Jessore-Khulna line per usual practice for these non-notable stations. Mangoe (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect- agree with the redirect to Darshana-Jessore-Khulna line as checking the citations in the article seems mostly describing the Railways in Bangladesh or even the Indian railways system in general and is not specifically about this section, websearches so far lack of SIGCOV for the subject.Lorraine Crane (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dhalarchar railway station

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Disputed redirect without improvement. Zero in-depth sourcing and searches did not turn up enough to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:52, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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restore redirect to List of railway stations in Bangladesh#Pabna District which is the usual case for a NN station. Mangoe (talk) 14:37, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Maksud Hossain

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:05, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Blue Dream Group

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Despite having several sources, this article likely fails WP:NCORP since none of them appear sufficiently reliable (they look like promotional puff pieces.) 🧙‍♀️ Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 16:26, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Ineligible for soft-deletion; was PROD-deleted on 1 May 2025. Owen× ☎ 16:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Major issues with WP:NEWSORGINDIA (or the Bangladeshi equivalent). Of the 14 references, 3 are press releases, 2 are the company's own website, and none appear to be independent, reliable sources. Vegantics (talk) 17:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ador Azad

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Likely WP:TOOSOON but fails WP:NACTOR. A lot of announcements on upcoming projects (non of which are notable for Wikipedia), but nothing in-depth about the subject himself outside of non-bylined churnalism and promotional content that mirrors what fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it: Recently, he is a very popular and notable actor in Bangladesh, about this topic covered in the (Acting career) section. This article has been passed WP:NACTOR for the (Acting career) section. Moreover, this article has been accepted into the AFC draft submission. – Aqsis Bey (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep He pasess WP:NACTOR from the roles he's done. Gepeas (talk) 09:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First, see WP:HOUNDING. Fewer than 50 edits and yet you show up at numerous AfD discussions with different topics, filed on different dates, etc. Only one connection to all of these which is me. Second, see WP:ATA. Third, there is no inherent notability from WP:NACTOR based on roles (see discussion here).--CNMall41 (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, I didn't even notice you until now, trust me, I'm not exactly out here hounding you. Don't flatter yourself. lol. Secondly, I understand that The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions meets the notability under WP:NACTOR. If that’s incorrect, feel free to correct me, preferably without the snide tone. Gepeas (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not flattered. Pretty duckish when new accounts are created to HOUND. You wouldn't be the first. To appease your vote, I will reiterate what I said in my third point above. Yes, you are incorrect. Simply having the roles does not guarantee notability. I would again suggest you read the discuss I linked to (or don't). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how you came up with this hounding idea. Out of the 11 AfD discussions I'm involved in, only two came up with your name. Anyway, I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with your dogmatic mindset. Gepeas (talk) 18:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Don't see any source which can be regarded as significant and reliable. WP:TOOSOON and FAIL WP:ACTOR. - Rht bd (talk) 17:27, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As per the actor has done some notable films.

—ApurboWiki2024 (talk) 09:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:VW. "the actor has done some notable films." Which films, what roles, what sources verify, where is the significant coverage documenting such? There is NO guideline that says someone is notable for having "done some notable films."--CNMall41 (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting the scent of a UPE firm here. A suspicious account messaged me on social media asking for advice on how to keep this article up! Also, it fails WP:NACTOR, so delete. —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 09:23, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That was me who messaged Yahya, okay, you have to remember that I submitted this page as a draft. And it passed the AFC. So Keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.89.25.23 (talk) 13:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: "It passes NACTOR" is insufficient. Explain the roles which show that this because just stating it as true does not make it so. Additionally some items which pass AFC should get deleted. The standard at AFC is will probably survive AfD which means some will not. At the moment I weight this discussion as DELETE given the lack of justification for the keep votes but am relisting this a third time to give time for those advocating keep to justify their reasoning.
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"Keep" per Gepeas and 103.89.25.23. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJR33 (talk • contribs) 07:14, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:VW. Also, you are only allowed to vote from your main account.--CNMall41 (talk) 16:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brunei

Cambodia

Samorn Kieng

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Conducted searches on Google programmed to search for WP Refs, and given the lack of an apparent other name, was restricted only to searches using the latin alphabet. No SIGCOV located. Mentioned in RS's, but nothing with regard to SIGCOV as they're all passing mentions or stats. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Per [6], [7]. Svartner (talk) 22:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first source looks okay, but the second one only mentions him in passing - only once! I want to see at leas one more example of SIGCOV before. One SIGCOV piece is closer to a one off event respectfully despite the context, and I would like to see multiple examples of SIGCOV before I consider a withdrawal. Per WP:GNG, Multiple sources are generally expected. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The second article mentions his name twice. It just only refers to him as "Samorn" one of the times. Is it short, but it isn't as insignificant as you make it out to be. First source is good. Ike Lek (talk) 02:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – based on above sources. Additional small bits of coverage here (some of these are actual one sentence mentions): [8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15] – Ike Lek (talk) 02:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When posting sources to keep, it is helpful not to bludgeon the discussion with passing mentions. I'm not seeing anything here that could be considered as WP:SIGCOV. Most of the links appear to be passing mentions while the last source is a blog. Let'srun (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Cambodia at the 2012 Summer Olympics#Athletics. The first reference posted by Svartner appears to be SIGCOV, but that alone is not enough to pass GNG. The remaining refs are all brief and/or passing mentions. The nominator indicated a willingness to withdraw this nomination if further SIGCOV is identified. I give permission to close the AFD in that case, despite my standing redirect !vote. Frank Anchor 14:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Cambodia at the 2012 Summer Olympics#Athletics: The first source provided by Svartner has WP:SIGCOV but beyond that there doesn't appear to be any more than passing mentions. Let'srun (talk) 01:52, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. I can't see the full text of the Phnom Penh Post article, but from the snippet it looks like a routine selection announcement with little secondary coverage and questionable independence. The AW article has a couple sentences, no SIGCOV. Obviously the suggested blogspot articles would be unusable BLP vios, and the other links are namedrops, quotes, and/or passing mentions with the exception of another PPP article that I can't read. JoelleJay (talk) 00:12, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mannequin Wedding

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Disputed draft indication. WP:DRAFTOBJECT applies. Fails WP:NFILM 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 15:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify Published by article creator without addressing draft review concerns. BOVINEBOY2008 19:20, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Since the draft process was not respected. Svartner (talk) 16:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Coverage in Khmer on/in Kampuchea Thmey, Pnn.com or even Popular.com seems to be enough to prove that the subject of the article clearly meets WP:NFIC ("The film was successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country, and was produced by that country's equivalent of a "major film studio". Articles on such a film should assert that the film in question was notable for something more than merely having been produced, and if any document can be found to support this, in any language, it should be cited"). But if a redirect and merge is preferred, Horror films of Cambodia is the target.- Eva Ux 01:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

China

Urbem Media

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Non-notable company, there are almost no references and does not meet WP:NCCORP. I could not find anything to show notability and the article has had notability tag for some time without any new references being added. Sargdub (talk) 06:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The article is filled with non-reliable sources that do not meet the criteria outlined in WP:RS in any way. Baqi:) (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Boxer Indemnity Scholarship (United Kingdom)

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Lack of notability with extremely little content, with what little content can be moved to the US version's article with its own section. Current page title not useful as a redirect. Go D. Usopp (talk) 07:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom (or redirect to Boxer Indemnity Scholarship, secondarily). - Amigao (talk) 04:30, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yi Shi

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WP:COI or WP:PE, with lots of PR spam sources. Tim (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: sources present in the article are enough to indicate he is notable ([16] [17] [18] at least). Cremastra (talk) 16:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cremastra that last Forbes source was written by a contributor rather than staff so usually not considered RS per WP:FORBESCON. S0091 (talk) 16:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping; you're right. There's this as well though, from the Chinese edition of Fortune (magazine). Cremastra (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cremastra the Chinese edition is a different publisher from Fortune (magazine) so does not have the same editorial oversight. You can see the difference by looking at https://fortune.com/about-us/ vs. https://www.fortunechina.com/first/c/2008-02/21/content_4825.htm. S0091 (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These Forbes lists contain only borderline sigcov. Source 2 is a school interviewing one of its alumni (so not independent) and source 3 is WP:FORBESCON. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - This is just a Gish gallop of trivial or promotional sources; there has also been a history here of using fake/SEO sources by a UDPE. I see Forbes contributor blogs, Entrepreneur contributor blogs, a VentureBeat contributor blog written by our favorite PR/SEO spammer Jon Stojan, user-generated material from LinkedIn, trivial directory listings, stories about the companies that don't mention the person (or mention him trivially), and so on. There are a few interviews, but those are hardly independent when establishing notability. Are there any examples of significant and independent sources? I was not able to locate anything searching externally, but that could be complicated by many others that share the same name, and a lot of self-serving PR that hides real sources. Sam Kuru (talk) 21:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just a disclaimer: I'm an employee at one of his companies and thus have a conflict of interest in this article. However, I’d like to add some independent references to address concerns about notability raised by the deletion rationale:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/shi-yi/

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/sme/sme-interview/story20170921-796955

https://mothership.sg/2018/06/shi-yi-obike-founder/

https://mothership.sg/2018/07/obike-founder-shi-yi-sorry/

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/21/all-in-one-sales-tech-platform-flashintel-raises-10-million/

https://www.fortunechina.com/detail/people/4040/2016/236/shiyi.htm

https://www.fortunechina.com/detail/people/4040/2023/26/shiyi.htm

Ultimately its up to the administrator to decide whether the page should be kept or not and I don't want to comment on his notability. 2601:645:8400:870:C590:2D13:2AA3:6038 (talk) 23:05, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per Kuru's assessment of the sources along with my own. S0091 (talk) 17:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Wong, Kim Hoh (2017-10-01). "It Changed My Life: Health crisis opened oBike founder's eyes to China's potential". The Sunday Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-07. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "However, Mr Shi - who wears nerdy glasses and sports a boyish mop of hair - is anything but an unremarkable, run-of-the-mill millennial. Only 28, he has been on Forbes' list of the 30 most important entrepreneurs under the age of 30 in China since 2014. ... He is the founder of DotC United Group, which has several global business platforms: digital advertising, mobile games, app development as well as an investment fund for mobile start-ups. ... In addition, he founded several other businesses, including local bike-sharing firm oBike, which has a market presence in 11 countries. ... The elder of two sons, he was born in Shanghai in 1989. In the same year, his father, a former translator and interpreter, left for Germany to study German and English literature. He was joined by his wife two years later. Mr Shi was raised by his maternal grandparents until he was 11, when he left Shanghai to be with his parents, who were then running a Chinese restaurant in the town of Neu-Ulm."
2. Huang, Kangwei 黄康玮 (2017-09-21). "选择新加坡"骑"上创业之路" [Choosing Singapore to 'Ride' onto the Road of Entrepreneurship]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-07-20. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "其中一名创办人是28岁的石一，他是科技公司Avazu Holding的创办人，三度入选《福布斯》中文版“中国30位30岁以下创业者”名单，也登上2016年《财富》“中国40位40岁以下商界精英”榜单。... 在德国法兰克福大学修读计算机科学的他，读了两年就毅然决定辍学，开始走上创业之路，如今成为身价不菲的企业家，显然是有幸运之神长期眷顾。"
  From Google Translate: "One of the founders is 28-year-old Shi Yi, the founder of technology company Avazu Holding. He has been selected three times by the Chinese version of Forbes as one of the "30 Chinese Entrepreneurs Under 30" and was also listed in the 2016 Fortune "40 Chinese Business Elites Under 40". ... He studied computer science at the University of Frankfurt in Germany, but decided to drop out after two years and start his own business. Now he has become a wealthy entrepreneur, which shows that he has been blessed by the god of luck for a long time."
3. Li, Keda 李柯达; Wu, Yanzi 吴燕子; Xu, Yimin 徐逸敏; Fang, Xu 房旭 (2014-02-27). "群星档案：2014年中国30位30岁以下创业者" [Rising Stars Profile: 30 Under 30 Entrepreneurs in China (2014)]. Forbes China (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2014-03-02. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "石一2009年在德国建立Avazu Inc，他希望通过大数据，让互联网和移动互联网广告变得更精准，让广告商按照通过广告活动带来的最终销量或者新增用户进行付款。"
  From Google Translate: "Shi Yi founded Avazu Inc in Germany in 2009. He hopes to make Internet and mobile Internet advertising more accurate through big data, allowing advertisers to pay according to the final sales or new users brought by advertising activities."
4. "用石一的方式理解石一" [Understanding Shi Yi in Shi Yi's Own Way] (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. 2017-08-03. Archived from the original on 2025-07-21. Retrieved 2025-07-21.
  The article notes: "12 岁只身留学德国，14岁开始管理BBS，16 岁赚取人生的第一桶金，18岁就读德国法兰克福大学计算机科学与技术专业，19岁创办广告投放公司 Avazu，24 岁入选《福布斯》“中国 30 位 30 岁以下创业者”名单，25岁身家超20亿元，27 岁登上《财富》 “中国 40 位 40 岁以下商界精英”榜单，28岁先后荣登《福布斯》全球版“亚洲30位30岁以下青年才俊榜”和“中国30位30岁以下青年才俊榜”"
  From Google Translate: "Studying in Germany alone at the age of 12, managing BBS at the age of 14, earning the first pot of gold at the age of 16, studying computer science and technology at the University of Frankfurt in Germany at the age of 18, founding the advertising company Avazu at the age of 19, being selected into the list of "30 Chinese Entrepreneurs Under 30" by Forbes at the age of 24, having a net worth of over 2 billion yuan at the age of 25, and being listed in the list of "Fortune China 40 Under 40" at the age of 27. At the age of 28, he was listed in the "30 Young Talents Under 30 in Asia" and "30 Young Talents Under 30 in China" of the "Forbes Global Edition"......"
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Shi Yi (Chinese: 石一) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 00:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. - Amigao (talk) 04:27, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sheng Liang

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO, not much WP:SIGCOV in independent sources. I don't know if cloud.com counts as "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record". TurboSuperA+_(talk) 09:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There is a suitable redirect target: Apache CloudStack. The article subject is mentioned in the History section. Pavlor (talk) 11:53, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Citrix post is WP:PASSING mention. Selective content can be merged into Apache CloudStack. Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources about Sheng Liang. I support a merge/redirect to Apache CloudStack per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion as suggested by Pavlor and Caleb Stanford. Cunard (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I found no significant coverage about him in reliable sources beyond passing mentions. Therefore, the subject does not meet the notability requirements under WP:GNG or WP:SIGCOV. SongRuyi (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. - Amigao (talk) 04:27, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hunan–Jiangxi Soviet

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Entirely unsourced and could probably be merged into Jiangxi Soviet or Autumn Harvest Uprising. Also, there is no Chinese-language version of this article, which is curiously odd. Amigao (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as apparent SYNTH. Mccapra (talk) 05:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is government sourcing that satisfies WP:V: [19]. I saw a bit better sourcing when using searching for "Hunan-Jiangxi revolutionary base area" (in Chinese) so that's a possible path to keeping. Jumpytoo Talk 05:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment After reviewing Autumn Harvest Uprising, it seems like Hunan is heavily covered there. If it is decided to merge and any new information can be properly sourced, it feels like this would be the better of the two articles you mentioned.

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Li Qi (politician, born 1969)

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Nor do they meet WP:POL. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unless Chinese language sources are found. Current coverage does not show sigcov Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the sources cited in the article are Chinese language sources. - Amigao (talk) 17:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I meant to say further sources. Two of these sources are decent and focus on what appears to be the same event. The others are not significant Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep meets NPOL by virtue of being a member of the 13th National People's Congress[20] This source and the political office are already in the zh.wikipedia article[21].~~ Oblivy (talk) 05:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could be incorrect, but I do not think this person is the same person as the one in the article you linked for zh wikipedia. They don't have the same name in latin or chinese characters. Li Qi is referred to as "he" while the 李静 article says she is female. They are listed with different birth months and represent separate provinces. This is not to say Li Qi is not notable, but that they aren't the same as the person you linked. Ike Lek (talk) 03:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agree with Oblivy. He is holding a political position and based on the available references on zh.wikipedia. Gepeas (talk) 16:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - it could be the translation program, but there is no politician named Li Qi in the source provided by Oblivy. There's a "Li Qiang", a "Li Qiuxi", and a "Li Qilin". Using "李琦", the Chinese version in the current article, and an un-translated version of the article, yields zero results.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:34, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I totally agree with Onel5969, sources cited in the article do not yield a result about any Li Qi. Cameremote (talk) @gonisulaimann 22:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, then why did you !vote keep? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:31, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: NPOL is a strong claim to notability but there seems to be some doubt whether this person meets it: there is evidence of mismatched identity
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Keep. I've added two more sources to the article. I think it barely meets GNG based on the sources now in the article. On the concerns about mistaken identity above, I agree that this article about the NPC does not seem to mention Li Qi; I can't find any evidence that he was in the NPC. The Chinese Wikipedia article linked above seems to be about a different person, Li Jing (李静) rather than Li Qi (李琦). —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:35, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment agreed that is an article about a different person, from another province. Apologies and I've struck my above comment and vote. The guy was county party chairman and provincial trade union boss. Is that enough for NPOL? With respect, the sources added by @Mx. Granger are fantastic for verifiability but I don't see anyone talking independently about him. Oblivy (talk) 15:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those positions would not meet NPOL, so GNG still needs to be shown Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep meets GNG. I reviewed the article sources. @The Account 2: Thoughts?

Czarking0 (talk) 17:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In cases like this, I feel it's good to run a though experiment: if he was an American politician holding a roughly similar position, would he have been notable? There seems to be just enough sources covering him. The Account 2 (talk) 17:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lu Renjie

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Almost all sources are typical press releases. 虹易 (talk) 00:58, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Hongyi,
I would like to respectfully address your repeated comments regarding "press releases" and "conflict of interest" on the Lu Renjie and Liu Jiakun articles:
- I have no conflict of interest with either subject. I am not related to Lu Renjie or Liu Jiakun, nor am I their representative, paid editor, or in any way connected. My only motivation is a genuine appreciation for Chinese art and architecture, and the belief that notable achievements in Chinese culture deserve proper documentation on Wikipedia.
- The notability guideline (WP:GNG) is based on significant, reliable, independent coverage. In both cases—especially for Liu Jiakun—there is substantial coverage in mainstream and reputable media. For example, Liu Jiakun was just awarded the Pritzker Prize, the most prestigious honor in global architecture (after I.M. Pei and Wang Shu, he is the third Chinese laureate). This is equivalent to a Nobel Prize in the field, which clearly demonstrates significance by any reasonable standard.
- If there are any issues with article quality or sources, Wikipedia encourages editors to improve the content constructively, not to assume bad faith or seek deletion of carefully developed articles. If you see shortcomings, please suggest specific improvements or add more reliable sources.
- Once again, I confirm I have no personal or financial relationship with either subject. My only interest is in improving Wikipedia's coverage of important figures in Chinese culture.
Thank you for your attention. I welcome any good-faith collaboration to further enhance the quality and neutrality of these articles. Miercat (talk) 12:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for raising your concerns. I’d like to clarify that Lu Renjie is widely recognized in the Chinese-speaking art world and has substantial coverage across Chinese-language media and art publications. This includes:

- Independent news coverage in 上观新闻，腾讯，网易，搜狐，among many others.

- Reviews and profiles in reputable art journals and exhibition catalogs (e.g. baokuchina.com in Shanghai Tower)

- Entries on multiple Chinese-language wikis, including wikipedia zh.

I am working on adding more of these independent, non-promotional sources to the English Wikipedia article, with English translations where necessary for verification. I believe this breadth of coverage demonstrates that Lu Renjie meets the requirements of WP:GNG, not just through press releases but through in-depth reporting and analysis in independent sources.

I welcome any further advice on improving the article and am happy to collaborate. Miercat (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Miercat, could you provide some of the sources you are talking about? GoldRomean (talk) 17:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the sources already mentioned, the following reputable news and institutional outlets have published substantial and dedicated coverage of Lu Renjie's solo exhibition "Shanhai Mitzang" (and related major exhibitions):

Tencent News — Features detailed reporting on Lu Renjie and his Shanhai Scroll project, including images and artist commentary.
Sohu News — Provides comprehensive coverage of Lu Renjie's exhibition at Guangfulin.
China News Shanghai — Includes video and text coverage, with specific focus on his "Light of Chaos" section.
Jiefang Daily — Mainstream newspaper coverage of the Guangfulin exhibition.
Baidu Baijiahao — In-depth reporting on Lu Renjie’s work in the group show.
The Paper (archive) — 100% dedicated to Lu Renjie and his Guangfulin solo exhibition.
Wenhui Daily — Focuses on the full scope of the exhibition.
Artron News — Art industry coverage of the Guangfulin exhibition.
Songjiang District Government — Official local government documentation of the event.
Baidu Baijiahao (2) — Another feature on the solo exhibition.
UnionTech — Industry coverage and event summary.

Each of these sources provides substantial, non-trivial, and independent coverage of Lu Renjie and his exhibitions, going far beyond a passing mention. Collectively, they clearly satisfy WP:GNG and demonstrate sustained, in-depth, and reliable media attention to the subject and his work.

Thank you. Miercat (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All these sources mentioned focus on the exhibits and have no significant coverage of the subject. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 22:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are for the subject's exihibits. Miercat (talk) 20:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Lu Renjie (simplified Chinese: 陆人捷; traditional Chinese: 陸人捷) does not meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline or Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. This article mentions the subject in one sentence. This article is a press release from VSDesign, which put on the event in which the subject is a specially invited artist, so is not an independent source. This article provides significant coverage about the subject but is published by the subject's university so is not sufficiently independent. This article provides a few sentences of coverage about the subject's work of art at the the "Light Chaser – Tribute to Every Breakthrough" exhibition so is not significant coverage. This article provides a sentence of coverage and a few sentences of quotes from the subject regarding an event he created so is not significant coverage. I am open to reevaluating my position if significant coverage in independent reliable sources is found. Cunard (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not able to read Chinese unaided but I possibly found some articles: about 3D printing and an installation at a mall, the second one seems to be at least partially an interview but I don't know if the rest is useful. Here are two sources that I took from the zh wiki. <3 Moritoriko (talk) 03:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cunard and all,

Regarding the comment that "this article mentions the subject in one sentence," I would like to clarify using several reliable sources and by describing the exhibition format:

1. Significant Coverage in Media:

For example, in this Tencent News article (link), over 60% of the content is devoted to Lu Renjie and his work, with two out of three images directly depicting him and his painting process for the Shanhai Scroll (image 1), or panoramic views of his work (image 2). The article details his creative process and artistic intent, and visually documents both the artist and his artwork. This goes well beyond a trivial mention.
2. Additional Sources Provide Substantial Coverage:
- China News Shanghai features both video and text coverage of the exhibition, especially focusing on the "Light of Chaos" section, which consists exclusively of Lu Renjie's work. In the video, all three speakers discuss his pieces, and at least half of the exhibition footage showcases his artwork.
- The article notes: "The exhibition is divided into three chapters: Light of Chaos, Light of Reason, Light of Self, representing ancient, classical, and modern eras. The 'Light of Chaos' section, featuring ancient China, is entirely Lu Renjie's work."
- The same source also highlights: "Notably, some art pieces in this exhibition present different scenes under normal and special lighting. Viewers can use a flashlight to discover 'hidden surprises' left by the artist"—this interactive element refers specifically to Lu's Shanhai Scroll.
- Additional reputable coverage:
  - Jiefang Daily
  - Baidu Baijiahao
3. On the Exhibition Format:

This was a group exhibition in a "partitioned" or "sectioned" format, with each of the three artists presenting an independent unit under a shared theme. In curatorial practice, this is considered a group show (not a solo or trivial participation). Both the public and media coverage treat the event as a unified exhibition, but Lu Renjie’s section is prominently highlighted and thematically integral.

Conclusion:

The sources cited above provide substantial, independent, and detailed coverage of Lu Renjie—well beyond a passing reference. Both textual and visual focus in reputable media clearly demonstrate notability per WP:GNG.

Thank you for considering these clarifications. Miercat (talk) 11:58, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the point that "this article is a press release from VSDesign, so is not an independent source":
- It is standard practice in the art world for group exhibitions and artist participation to be documented both on event organizer/curator sites (such as VSDesign's artist page for Lu Renjie) and by third-party press. While this is an official source, it provides verifiable information about exhibition participation and the curatorial selection process (e.g., being a "specially invited artist").
- Importantly, this event was a group show, as clearly indicated on the VSDesign website (link), and Lu Renjie was featured with a dedicated artist page.
- As per Wikipedia policy, organizer/curator documentation is appropriate for confirming participation in group exhibitions, especially when independent coverage (as provided elsewhere) is also available.
- In the Wikipedia article, sources like this are only used to support the subject's exhibition history (e.g., under a "Group Exhibitions" section), not to establish overall notability, which relies on significant coverage from independent sources.
- To clarify, this exhibition and Lu Renjie's role as an invited artist have also been covered by independent media, as cited above.
In summary: while official sources are not used to establish notability, they are appropriate for documenting exhibition participation, especially in the context of group shows and when confirmed by third-party coverage. Miercat (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the comment: "This article provides a few sentences of coverage about the subject's work of art at the 'Light Chaser – Tribute to Every Breakthrough' exhibition so is not significant coverage" (link):
- This source covers a major group exhibition at Shanghai Tower, where Lu Renjie was responsible for the entire "Light of Chaos" section—a key part of the event. The article provides specific details about his contribution, including mention of his works "Shanhai Scroll" and "Shanhai World", and describes the creative context and curatorial concept behind his section.
- This is not a trivial or passing mention; rather, the article dedicates a significant portion to Lu Renjie's works and the curatorial reasoning for his role in the exhibition.
- Furthermore, as previously stated and supported by multiple additional sources, the structure of this group show assigned each artist an entire section, and Lu Renjie's section and works are highlighted both in the media and in exhibition documentation.
- As a result, I have placed this source in the "Group Exhibitions" section of the article, along with other independent media coverage, to accurately represent the context and significance of Lu Renjie's involvement.
Thank you. Miercat (talk) 12:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In response to the claim that "This article provides only a sentence of coverage and a few sentences of quotes" (link):
- This is inaccurate. The entire article is focused on Lu Renjie and his solo exhibition "Shanhai Mitzang" at Guangfulin. The full text and all images exclusively cover Lu Renjie's work, artistic background, curatorial intent, and the significance of this exhibition. This is far beyond a trivial or incidental mention.
- Furthermore, this solo exhibition received comprehensive coverage in multiple reputable independent media outlets and official websites, including:
- Each of these sources provides substantial, independent coverage of Lu Renjie's exhibition, with the entire content devoted to his artistic contributions and public impact.
- The depth, focus, and multiplicity of independent sources clearly meet and exceed WP:GNG for notability.
Thank you. Miercat (talk) 12:31, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the comment: "This article provides significant coverage about the subject but is published by the subject's university so is not sufficiently independent." (link):
- This source is not used to establish notability or provide independent coverage; it is simply a primary source used to verify a straightforward biographical fact: the subject's graduation from this university. It is both standard and appropriate practice on Wikipedia to use official university websites to confirm educational credentials.
- To suggest that a university's own website is somehow too biased to confirm that someone graduated from that university is unreasonable and would invalidate thousands of biographical articles. University sources are routinely accepted for this type of factual, non-controversial information.
- As stated, all notability claims are based on significant, independent media coverage, as provided in the other sources cited. This university source is strictly for verification of education, not notability.
Thank you. Miercat (talk) 13:05, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Miercat, you might want to review WP:BLUDGEON and WP:LLM. - Amigao (talk) 16:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To help non-chinese speaker to understand chinese articles is not Bludgeon.

Thank you for your compliment. I wrote all this myself. LLM just helped me with organizing them.

Miercat (talk) 07:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is an unbolded Keep in these comments. Cunard, could you review the sources brought into this discussion? It's so rare that I see you arguing for a Deletion but I don't think you saw the sources added here by Miercat.
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Delete as it fails WP:GNG. - Amigao (talk) 16:27, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I’ve looked at the sources, they all cover his exhibitions. (talk) 16:13, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I am striking my "delete" comment for now. I am not convinced that Lu Renjie is notable. I briefly looked at a few (but not all owing to lack of time) of the sources mentioned by Miercat but did not come away convinced that Lu Renjie (simplified Chinese: 陆人捷; traditional Chinese: 陸人捷) is notable. I may return to support retention or deletion but am striking my "delete" comment and abstaining for now. Cunard (talk) 05:59, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: thoughts on this individual's notability under WP:CREATIVE, especially criteria 4? — 🪫Volatile ^{📲T | ⌨️C} 01:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly satisfies criteria 2, 3 and 4.

Point 2 (originated a significant new concept or technique): He pioneered the use of digital technology and 3D printing to reinterpret the Classic of Mountains and Seas in contemporary art.^[1]

Point 3 (major work as subject of multiple independent articles/reviews): Lu Renjie’s works have been the main subject of multiple independent news articles and exhibition reviews.^[2]

Point 4 (substantial part of significant exhibition): His works formed a substantial section of the prestigious “Light Chaser – Tribute to Every Breakthrough” group exhibition at Shanghai Tower, organized by Baoku Culture.^[3] Miercat (talk) 07:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for replying but that is missing the point of "originated a new concept of technique". An example would be Georges Seurat who devised the painting technique known as pointillism. Moritoriko (talk) 13:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "艺术家陆人捷：将中国山海经带入元宇宙". 搜狐网. Retrieved 2025-07-16.
^ "Exhibition takes visitors into world of classic Chinese text". SHINE. Retrieved 2025-07-16.
^ "宝库的牛年第一新展——用手电筒照亮"隐藏彩蛋"". 腾讯新闻. Retrieved 2025-07-16.

Delete This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. They have not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. The exhibitions that have been over-referenced do not indicate notability WP:TOOSOON --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:16, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're repeating an invalid point. https://www.sohu.com/a/740887882_790178 The Guangfulin exihibition lasted for 5 months and it's 100% about his artworks. Miercat (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The assertion that Lu Renjie has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition is not accurate. Being featured as a major artist at Shanghai Tower—one of China’s most prominent and recognizable cultural landmarks—is equivalent to exhibiting at the Empire State Building or the Eiffel Tower; this represents the highest level of recognition for contemporary artists in China. To dismiss this as insignificant ignores both the prestige of the venue and the artist’s role. Furthermore, it should be noted that the same editor (Hongyi) has repeatedly attempted to challenge the notability of Liu Jiakun, the third Chinese architect to win the Pritzker Prize, which is widely considered the Nobel Prize of architecture. This consistent pattern reveals a strong bias against Chinese artists and architects, and reflects an effort to diminish their internationally recognized achievements. Instead of erasing such contributions, Wikipedia should aim for fair and global representation. Miercat (talk) 07:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC) — Miercat (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Your assertion that being part of an exhibition at Shanghai Tower—one (an office building and shopping mall) is significant is not correct. Please stop commenting on an unrelated article, Liu Jiakun, as if notability of one subject has anything to do with the other. Also please read WP:BLUDGEON. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Concur with WomenArtistUpdates. A well-known artist locally but not quite well-known enough to pass our threshold per WP:ARTIST, even after sifting through the sources provided above. GuardianH 13:55, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia

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Hong Kong related deletions

Prestige Hong Kong

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Article that has been effectively unsourced from its creation in 2007. Not finding anything on a Google search (string: ["prestige hong kong" -prestigeonline.com]) or anything passable as a source in history (SOPA is 404-compliant, https://web.archive.org/web/20160304052630/http://www.sinarmasprintawards.com/english/all.asp seems thoroughly broken). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 06:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. It's unfortunate that the article has been completely unsourced for so long, and a cursory search of any independent secondary coverage turns up blank. Even then, I would support a case of TNT-ing and starting over given that it's almost exclusively original research. GuardianH 13:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Roboboa

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I'm not convinced this toy robot meets WP:GNG. Article isn't much more than an unsourced summary of its functionality and has seen little improvement since 2008. A WP:BEFORE search revealed no significant coverage other than brief mentions of its announcement in 2007. MidnightMayhem 07:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I only get two hits in Gnews. [22] I'm not sure that's a RS, but it was featured at CES, then appears to have faded away. Lack of sourcing. Non-notable item. Oaktree b (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Nichols, Larry (2008-07-25). "Robot pets do not poop". Philadelphia Gay News. Vol. 32, no. 30. p. 25. EBSCOhost 33550317.
  The abstract notes: "The article evaluates robotic pets from WowWee Robotics including Roboboa, the Alive series robots and the Robopanda."
2. Stone, Adam (2007-05-11). "Everything's Cool". Baltimore Jewish Times. Vol. 296, no. 2. pp. S22 – S23. ProQuest 222780229.
  The article notes: "Your Next Snake We promised you a snake, and now we deliver New from WowWee is the Roboboa, a robotic serpent that dances. Yep. They finally made a robot dancing snake. It's a beautiful world we live in. You can control the snake's 40 movements with a remote, or just crank the tunes and watch it dance to the music. It's also an iPod speaker, alarm clock and motion detector. We would just like to repeat these words one more time: Robotic, Dancing. Snake. For the robot-dancing-snake lover in all of us, could the world be any more cool? "
3. Schwarz, Reuben (2007-09-04). "Slinky bed mate". The Press. p. T7. ProQuest 314888094.
  The article notes: "Here's an alarm clock with a difference. Roboboa is alarm, reading light and electronic pet all rolled into one. It explores, it parties, it even guards your desk by shooting lasers (actually just a noise) at anything that comes into view. It also interacts with WooWees other toys, like Robopet and Robosapien, and probably scares the heck out of your pets. And it'll be that much harder sleeping in knowing a robot snake is staring down at you."
4. "These are the droids you're looking for: WowWee Roboboa". Stuff. 2008-01-01. Factiva FFUTS00020071207e4110000j.
  The article notes: "You’re probably wondering how this android snake gets about. In fact, Roboboa glides across flat surfaces with a curious moonwalk action courtesy of rotating cylinder segments. It all makes sense when you put him into Party Mode, whereupon he squirms around to his own disco tunes and puts on a little light show."
5. Le Bourlot, Éric (November 2007). "L'invasion des robots jouets" [The invasion of toy robots]. Science et Vie micro [fr] (in French). p. 11. Retrieved 2025-07-13 – via Internet Archive.
  The article notes: "Toujours inspirés par les travaux du chercheur au chapeau Mark Tilden, le Roboboa a la forme d'un ser- pent et le Roboquad est un drôle d'alien à quatre pattes. Tous deux peuvent se dépla-cer, repérer des obstacles. Mais attention, malgré ce qu'annonce Wow Wee, ils ne disposent pas d'une réelle intelligence artificielle, et si on peut leur inculquer certains comportements basi-ques, ils n'évoluent pas avec le temps."
  From Google Translate: "Still inspired by the work of hat-wearing researcher Mark Tilden, Roboboa is shaped like a snake, and Roboquad is a strange four-legged alien. Both can move and spot obstacles. But beware, despite what Wow Wee claims, they don't have real artificial intelligence, and while they can be taught certain basic behaviors, they don't evolve over time."
6. "Свестрана змиа" [Versatile snake]. Politikin Zabavnik (in Serbian). 2007-11-30. Retrieved 2025-07-13 – via Internet Archive.
  The article notes: "Свестрана змиа Argos Roboboa Стручнаци куе „Argos" осмислили су необичну роботизовану направу ко je савитльива попут змие да би била што прилагодливиа разним наменама и назвали су je Roboboa. Склопльена од дигиталних уреаа, ова „купна змиа" лако може да промени облик и изврши чак четрдесет едну радну. Тако, рецимо, Roboboa може да се користи као лампа за читанье, будилник, поуздани чувар кои бележи сваки покрет и о томе одмах обавештава, али и као саиграч кои добро прати ритам музике. Оваква свестрана направа заиста je пожельна у сваком домапинству. Може да се купи по цени од око 160 евра."
  From Google Translate: "Versatile snake Argos Roboboa Experts from the house "Argos" have designed an unusual robotic device that is flexible like a snake in order to be as adaptable as possible for various purposes and have called it Roboboa. Assembled from digital devices, this "snake" can easily change shape and perform as many as forty-one tasks. For example, Roboboa can be used as a reading lamp, an alarm clock, a reliable guard that records every movement and immediately informs about it, but also as a teammate that follows the rhythm of the music well. Such a versatile device is truly desirable in every household. It can be purchased for a price of around 160 euros."
7. Melanson, Donald (2007-10-15). "Roboboa slithers its way to the USA". Engadget. Archived from the original on 2021-01-23. Retrieved 2025-07-13.
  The article notes: "While WowWee's dancing Roboboa robot has already made its way into a few select parts of the world, those in the US have so far had a considerable harder time getting their hands on one. That looks to have now changed in a big way, however, as the so-called "alien with attitude" is now available directly from WowWee for an even $100."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Roboboa to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 08:58, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep satisfied with the sources found by Cunard. SongRuyi (talk) 16:54, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

India

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Indonesia

Mohammad Ruslan

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Former mayor of a city of 400,000, Indonesia's 32nd largest, does not qualify under WP:NPOL. Insufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. Obi2canibe (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The population of the city is irrelevent to WP:NPOL. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:22, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Experssing Islam ([9])}	No affiliation with the subject; academic analysis.	Published by a Singapore-based publisher ( Institute of Southeast Asian Studies). The chapter in question is by Robin Bush, who I assume is this person who I assume knows what she's talking about.	Discusses Ruslan's actions as mayor in the context of Islam in Indonesian politics.	✔ Yes
Unrest in Mataram Not Due to Ethnic or Religious Issues	Newspaper with no affiliation with the subject.	Despite the bad website design, the article is published in Kompas, a big national newspaper. I think it is probably reliable for local issues like this one.	Quotes the mayor and discusses the situation.	✔ Yes
Indonesian Investment and Trading Opportunity by Province, Regency, City. Vol. 4	If it's published by a national department, it should be independent from small-town mayors.	Apparantly published by the Indonesian Departement of Home Affairs	Eech. Based on the little sliver of a preview GBooks throws me we might have SIGCOV here, given it's a "profile". But based on the type of information in the article cited to this source (childhood, personal life) and the large amount of text cited to it (whole paragraph), I'm working on the asumption that it has SIGCOV. If someone wants to create an account with this sketchy website, they might get to find out.	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Keep based on this table. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in addition to the table above, I found another source ([23]), in which a whole chapter is dedicated to reviewing the first terms of four regional leaders including Ruslan. Not -exclusive-, but certainly SigCov. Juxlos (talk) 10:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tanak Tepong

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Can't find any reliable sources covering this settlement. (The Netherlands Wikipedia article has no sources either) ApexParagon (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete this unsourced geostub. Mangoe (talk) 13:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Rozanna

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COI/UPE editing was moved to mainspace after being draftified and then declined at AfC. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I would also accept drafify. Nothing persuades me that Rozanna passes WP:BIO, but some more time in draft might find some sources that have not show n up my my BEFORE 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 21:15, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yance Youwei

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I'm unable to find anything resembling WP:SIGCOV for this player. Geschichte (talk) 06:17, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – All I found were database sources. Corresponding article on Indonesian Wikipedia is also a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:04, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – per GNG and SIGCOV. 🅷🅴🅽🆁🅸 ^{(Let's talk)} ✉ 05:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fransiskus Mumpo

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I am not able to find support of him meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I only found WP:PASSING mentions. [24] Geschichte (talk) 14:13, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Fransiskus Mumpo logged nine appearances for Perseru Serui in the fully-professional 2017 Liga 1 season, satisfying WP:NFOOTBALL; this can be proven by player databases such as worldfootball.net and Soccerway. Aeon Sentinel (talk) 16:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NFOOTBALL for players does not exist. Geschichte (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – All secondary sources I found were passing mentions in match reports and routine squad announcements. Corresponding article on Indonesian Wikipedia is just a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bicoli State

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I don't feel this article meets the general English Wikipedia's notability criteria (WP:GNG). The subject of the article is not widely known, and its status is merely a local government subordinate to the higher Sultanate of Tidore, with territorial changes that may not exist, or are unclear, and there is no evidence that it ever became an independent entity in its own right (WP:GEOLAND). The sources cited also don't go into much detail about the state, Most of the material comes from only one source, and is not found in other sources, or other sources do not discuss this state. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 10:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Additional note: This article is also being nominated for deletion on idwiki: id:Wikipedia:Usulan penghapusan/Kenegerian Bicoli. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 23:53, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The presentation here may not be optimal, but there is likely a notable topic in either the village or the district. Currently neither has an article, with East Halmahera Regency being the lowest division. The sources currently in the article that I can access seem to focus on the village. Political history would fit within such as article. (id. wiki has stubs for the village id:Bicoli, Maba Selatan, Halmahera Timur and district id:Maba Selatan, Halmahera Timur.) The question then is whether to rework this article, or that given there might be OR, keep the sources somewhere to start a new article. CMD (talk) 07:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag of King Sisingamangaraja (via WP:PROD on 19 March 2025)

Japan

Tetsuya Yamaoka

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Good faith deprod by @Absurdum4242: with the reasoning that with nearly 50 games, there would be sources out there. There are only primary sources on the Japanese Wikipedia, and I only found passing mentions in [25] [26] . RossEvans19 (talk) 13:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Circus (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP, cannot find significant coverage in reliable sources. The JP page isn't much better in this regard. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – I disagree with the nominator, the ja.wiki article is well in-depth/referenced. Svartner (talk) 16:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Simply saying WP:SOURCESEXIST is not a valid argument. Please state these "sources" here that prove notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sengari Camp

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No independent RS on the page, doesn't seem to be a way to WP:V the contents. Not seeing other sources to add that are independent of the topic. JMWt (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Very little mention of the place in a news search (excluding Kwansei's own website). Appears to have been self-promo as functionally an English translation of their website (although, I can't find a smoking gun for translation copyvio). REAL_MOUSE_IRL talk 12:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Iwao Masuda

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No SIGCOV located. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:16, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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He meets multiple different parts of WP:NATH (fifth-place Olympic finish, national championships, etc.). It is highly unlikely Japan would not have covered one of their best athletes. If only we looked in Japanese sources... BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Miminity:. Svartner (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Supposably he is mentioned in this, but I can't find his name. [27] – Ike Lek (talk) 00:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Same thing with this: [28]. He's also in this [29], but I don't think it is SIGCOV. Ike Lek (talk) 00:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noriyo Hiroi

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Alpine skier that fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV was found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:48, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep. Competed in three Olympics, four World Championships and probably one hundred World Cup races (didn't count them), placing as high as tenth. Tenth place in the world. Searching for her Japanese name, this was the second hit, which entails that WP:SPORTCRIT is met and I therefore don't feel inclined to search further. Geschichte (talk) 21:03, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While it would seem that coverage will almost certainly exist, that source is seemingly a blog and as such isn't reliable. I have not looked further to see what other sourcing might be out there, but we need something a bit better if we are going to keep this article. Let'srun (talk) 03:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for now, if a suitable redirect target can't be found. Specifically I used her Japanese name when conducting my searches, and while I did get a ton of hits, nearly all of them were blogs or non-independent sources. While notability criteria are helpful, they don't guarantee SIGCOV to exist. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 12:49, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete: It would appear that WP:SIGCOV exists somewhere based on the achievements, but until that can be proven a standalone article is not permissible. I'm also not seeing a clear redirect target, but if someone wants to draftify this, be my guest. Let'srun (talk) 18:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, clearly notable per Geschichte. And this source describes a feature story on her titled 見えない栄光へのテイクオフ ("Takeoff to invisible glory") published in a magazine. The nominator is also blocked. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a blog. Not a reliable or independent source. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 13:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A blog saying she was the subject of a feature story in a magazine. Do you have any reason to assume that there was no feature story in the magazine? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This seems to be the link to the Takeoff to Invisible Glory publication - but the official listing does not seem to include any mention of Hiroi. If she would have gained a feature story, wouldn't she be listed here? InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "official listing" only includes the article titles. It does list an article by the title given in the blog. No reason to believe it wouldn't be about her, or at least feature her prominently. Ike Lek (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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GAY World Anal Championship

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Absurd subject matter aside, this article has zero independent or secondary sources, apart from a few in German and Japanese but not enough, and thus fails WP:GNG. Lemonademan22 (talk) 08:02, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – Impossible to do a WP:BEFORE about this tournament. Svartner (talk) 04:10, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep' Bad rationale for deletion. Article subjects can be absurd and foreign-language sources go towards WP:GNG.LM2000 (talk) 00:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Whatever the case, there's still a lack of independent sources here. Lemonademan22 (talk) 08:00, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per LM2000. GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:13, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would say Keep (per LM) and also... WTF??? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per LM2000. Additionally, I can further support it with some of the English-language sources i have found: 1; 2; 3.Aeon Sentinel (talk) 15:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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KiriKiri

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Non-notable engine subject to a previous redirect from this deletion discussion: [30]. The sources - many pasted as bare links, do not demonstrate significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. Per WP:SCHOLARSHIP I really don't vibe with the idea that you can collect coverage in random research papers not primarily about the subject, particularly a student's Bachelors thesis, and say this amounts to notability. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Appears to fail WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:29, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Searching in Japanese revealed a instructional book. IgelRM (talk) 20:30, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with List of visual novel engines – Where the engine is mentioned and its most important points can be listed. Svartner (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am also fine with a merge if it will result in consensus. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:22, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with List of visual novel engines: Seems like a more appropriate page to cover this. Several of the sources in this article are already present there. MidnightMayhem 21:03, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pak Yong-ho

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Declined PROD by an IP user. No WP:SIGCOV found. Svartner (talk) 01:27, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - best name to search for is probably "朴永浩" since he played in Japan and there is another soccer player in Korea with the same name, so using his Korean name could be confusing, and translating his surname as Pak instead of Park in English is a little odd, but does seem to be how he is listed in English records. That being said, most mentions of him seem to be in articles about his son. – Ike Lek (talk) 23:19, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Japan Association of Conference Interpreters

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Fails notability. I have found no reliable sources, and no significant coverage beyond their own website. PROD'd by LibStar but contested by an IP. Weirdguyz (talk) 12:42, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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What is required for sufficient notability? The organization is oeprated primarily in Japanese but has held activities outside of Japan.

Example:

https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/events/workshop-japan-association-conference-interpreters-jaci-02-27-2020

Referenced in an academic publication as well.

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780429297878-16/conference-interpreting-japan-kayoko-takeda-kayo-matsushita 2404:7A80:3021:18F0:FC93:A514:9B96:4A9B (talk) 12:49, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability sets out the requirements for notability. Notability is not determined by the organisation itself but by the sources available for it. For a subject to be notable there must be significant coverage, which is reliable and independent of the source. Weirdguyz (talk) 13:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all the google news comes from https://www.middlebury.edu/ . Unless someone can find indepth coverage in Japanese, this fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 00:26, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Google throws up sources talking about the organisation, including this academic article https://incontextjournal.org/index.php/incontext/article/download/78/44 , this article about contests the organisation holds https://www.icu.ac.jp/en/news/2406281000.html , and this event advice company https://eventflare.io/expert-advice/tokyo/top-rated-translators-and-interpreters-in-tokyo-for-corporate-events , which seems like enough to go on with. I’m not going to put info from them into the article yet, because I’m getting a bit sick of fixing up articles just for them to be deleted anyway, but if the decision is Keep, I’ll come back and do it in a week or so. Absurdum4242 (talk) 10:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also. Can’t get access just now, but the academic publication that poster Starting 2404… etc, posted seems to be legit too, though I’d need to crack it open to be 100% sure. Absurdum4242 (talk) 10:59, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Eventflare article is definitely not reliable, being little more than a Listicle advertisement. The International Christian University article is dubiously reliable, and also is not SIGCOV for JACI itself, as it is about two students who received prizes from a JACI hosted competition. The Tsurata article comes the closest to being good, but I don't think two paragraphs is SIGCOV, and regardless Tsurata is not independent as she is also a member of JACI. Weirdguyz (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just to check, why is it you think that the International Christian University article is of dubious reliability? Have they been doing some dodgy tabloid stuff I’m unaware of? Also, I can’t see how coverage of events held by an organisation, and other things an organisation does don’t count as SigCov?

As for the Tsurata article, which was published in a refereed academic journal I’ll note, while Tsurata is herself a member, she was not in this case speaking for the organisation, and is writing more generally about several organisations in the sector in Japan. Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:20, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the reliability of the ICU article, it's frankly the quality of the article which makes me doubt the reliability. Also, the reason it's not SIGCOV is there just isn't enough about the organisation. Sure, SIGCOV doesn't need to be the main focus of an article, but it needs to still be in-depth, which the ICU article isn't.

And regardless of whether she was speaking for the organisation or not, Tsurata is a member of JACI and is not independent when writing about it. Weirdguyz (talk) 22:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That…. Seems like a real stretch Re Tsurata’s independence. Are you suggesting Americans aren’t independent when talking about America? And doctors are independent when talking about medical bodies they belong to - the AMA say? Absurdum4242 (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am suggesting that a member of an organisation is not independent when writing about that organisation. Are you suggesting that Americans aren't independent when talking about America is an astonishingly vacuous argument. And yes, a doctor talking about a body they are a member of is similarly not independent. I think you are misunderstanding why I'm pointing these things out. WP:GNG specifically requires independent and reliable SIGCOV to establish notability. A source written by a member of an organisation cannot be used to establish notability for that organisation. Sure, you can carefully use that source for information within the article, but it is not independent and so does not contribute to notability. Weirdguyz (talk) 23:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete None of the linked sources provide independent SIGCOV. This organization does not seem notable. CarringtonMist (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for lack of notability. While I deeply appreciate Absurdum4242's search for additional sources, upon review, I find them unconvincing to establish notability under NCORP. Tsuruta 2024 may be the highest quality one, but two brief paragraphs of coverage in a 24 page-article in a single, new journal does not ultimately tip the scale. The Middlebury pages are entirely primary and therefore adds no weight. I find it unlikely that Takeda 2021 will provide SIGCOV. The ICU blog post is similarly primary. And the Eventflare listicle I discount for both SIGCOV and likely PRIMARY reasons. In conclusion, I do not find notability here. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 00:13, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2025 Incheon shooting

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 15:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is more of a news murder than encyclopedic shooting event Czarking0 (talk) 17:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Guns have been completely and strictly banned in South Korea for many decades. So this incident shouldn't be compared with any shooting case in the US, since their possession of firearms is so widespread and public. Meanwhile, multiple media outlets confirmed that the perpetrator was involved in an attempted bombing on a large residential complex where he lives, so that many people even started to view the case as "terrorism".

Timers were set to explode at noon and the whole building might be endangered if they went enabled, all confirmed by an official police briefing.

The most recent shooting crime in South Korea, excepting this and any military incidents, took place more than nine years ago, proving any gun crimes in South Korea are super rare, unlike the US having annual cases of mass shootings without skipping a year. I think I showed enough that the case is not routine at all and so unusual. -StarBiologist (talk) 19:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Replying to the above as well; while the event is certainly unusual, judging on our own of what is unusual isn't really part of WP:NEVENT. Plenty of unusual things with minimal impact and coverage only around the time of the event that wouldn't pass the criteria. Until there's more clear evidence of WP:EVENTCRIT, I lean delete. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 04:20, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Park Sang-hyeok (footballer, born 2002)

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Doesn't appear to pass WP:NATHLETE. I prod'd and creator deprod'd. They added a few sources but they're only passing mentions. Also noting this article isn't the only one they've created with this issue; feel like NATHLETE needs to be read and adhered to closer in general. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 05:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Continuing a discussion from my talk page. User talk:grapesurgeon#Related to Park Sang-hyeok. @Issue0501: please read WP:NATHLETE more carefully; statistics don't count towards proof of notability. You need news articles that discuss him in depth beyond just passing mentions of his name. And please don't get so angry at me; we're not enemies, we're working together to build an encyclopedia. I'm just following Wikipedia policy. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:10, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added an article with some reference to his playstyle. Here's an article that goes into more detail about him. Issue0501 (talk) 06:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And you weren't angry? How can you be sure that you were angry? Issue0501 (talk) 06:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OHMYNEWS is considered an unreliable source because it's WP:UGC. Also I wasn't angry? Let's just focus on the content, strange counteraccusation grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can you be so sure that this is a strange rebuttal? You are only focusing on the content. If you can't trust Korean media articles, then how can you understand the numerous domestic media articles on Japanese athletes? If you can't trust statistical sites and articles, then it's right to just delete them. Issue0501 (talk) 06:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What? I do trust Korean media articles, I use them in my own writings all the time. I already explained to you what the issues are. You need to have reliable sources (in any language) that discuss him in depth. Statistics aren't enough.

When I said "strange counteraccusation", I meant that it was strange you were saying I was angry at you. I hadn't really said anything that made it seem like I was angry at you?

Also, to others reading, noting that Issue0501 blanked the article after making that comment. I undid the blanking; articles in article space shouldn't be blank. Also, the discussion is still ongoing so should wait until this discussion concludes. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Stop here and delete it quickly. This document can't exist anyway. Issue0501 (talk) 06:57, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - young player with nearly 100 appearances (and ongoing career) in top Korean professional league. Has a WP:BEFORE been done for sources in Korean? Giant Snowman 19:12, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yong Yea

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Disputed redirect with no improvement, current sourcing consists of unreliable sources and simple mentions. Zero in-depth references from independent, reliable sources. Prolific, but Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: for the record, the redirect contesting was not merely a revert, but was the result of an RfD. I have no opinion or comment on the article itself, but this likely does suggest that redirecting is not an alternative to deletion here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. WP:NACTOR is a quite permissive standard; once an actor appears in enough notable works, we generally have an article on them even if we don't have tons of non-primary sources on their biography. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/06/youtuber-yong-yea-is-the-new-english-voice-of-kazuma-kiryu is a source directly on him that is not just a passing mention. This kind of article is always going to be a bit of a stub and a bit of a sourced list of works they're in, but that's generally accepted and fine for borderline-notable actors. (Canvassing disclaimer: This contested redirect was brought to my attention by another Wikipedian, but my opinion is my own.) SnowFire (talk) 19:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Meets WP:GNG, there are more sources available in Spanish too:[31][32][33][34]. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Jong-cheol

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No medals. No evidence of meeting WP:NATHLETE grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to South Korea at the 1960 Summer Olympics#Athletics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 00:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – hard to search for. Hangul name appears to be "김종철" for anyone interested in giving it a shot, but it is just way too common of a name. – Ike Lek (talk) 07:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I should have said earlier; I had searched in Korean and found nothing substantive. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 07:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing articles with the name in an athletics/Olympic context here: [35] But because the text is rasterized (not copy/pasteable) I have no way to translate them. --Habst (talk) 13:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst: If text isn't copy-pastable, try taking a picture using Snipping Tool, save, then upload it to Google Translate's image translator. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect unless archive searches bring up something. AFAIK, this looks like a particularly common Hangul name. Could not find anything else myself. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 12:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Laos

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:06, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Damansara Utama National Secondary School

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Last AfD was no consensus. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. No SIGCOV in third party sources. LibStar (talk) 01:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, doesn't meet WP:NSCHOOL. I couldn't find any SIGCOV in third-party sources. Nixleovel (He/They) (Talk • Contribs) 02:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I see many false positives on Google news, but nothing specific to this school. Bearian (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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KOSPINT

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Last AfD was no consensus. Searching in google news and books for "Kolej Sains Pendidikan Islam Negeri Terengganu" yielded insufficient coverage to meet WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 07:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The first nomination (of the three it has had) was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kospint; the article was renamed during that 2009 nomination (which ended as "keep" under that era's lower standards). (No opinion.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - It's a boarding school, but it seems to be a government school from the description. Can we verify that status? If it's a private school, it definitely does not meet WP:NORG. If a government school, there is a little information out there, but not clear anything that meets GNG. I previously !voted keep as it was nominated in a string of poorly explained nominations, so it lacked deletion rationale. I will not !vote to keep on that basis. If it's independent, it's a clear delete. If it is confirmed as a government school, perhaps a redirect? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mongolia

Michel & Amazonka

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WP:NOTBROCHURE and WP:SBST. Coverage largely lacks significant analysis. Current article is thus essentially what the company wants to say about itself, even if there were sources found (I haven't found anything suitable) it may be better to start from scratch. Coverage in standard BEFORE and ProQuest is mostly the 2024, so it might be possible to redirect Mongolia at the 2024 Summer Olympics after smerging a short blurb or something. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:39, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nepal

Deanne Panday

AfDs for this article:

WP:RUNOFTHEMILL fitness trainer with no significant achievements and no WP:SIGCOV. Sources are mostly, passing mentions, routine coverage, interviews and gossips around her notable relatives. The article was created by a blocked SPA. Zuck28 (talk) 12:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong keep: As I stated in the previous nomination, the subject clearly meets the requirements of WP:GNG by receiving significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. Notable examples include a detailed articles in DNA (300+ words), an article by Time of India (350+ words), Business Standard, NDTV, Hindustan Times, and MidDay, among others. These are independent, reliable secondary sources that provide substantial detail about her career, publications, and public influence, not mere name-drops or trivial mentions. As WP:GNG states: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. In this case, multiple substantial articles from mainstream publications combine to satisfy the notability criteria. Therefore, the subject meets both WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. GSS ^💬 14:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can’t see your comment on the previous nomination. Did you participate in the last AFD?

This DNA article you mentioned is non-bylined promotional article to advertise her personal training service.

The Times of India article is also clearly advertorial piece with a disclaimer "Disclaimer: This article was produced on behalf of Life Health Foods by Times Internet’s Spotlight team."

Business standard article is a book review without the name of the reviewer, clear promotion.

NDTV article is more focused on the Book and Salman Khan, not the subject of the article.

The Hindustan Times article is about the opinions of multiple people, and she got trivial coverage, fails Wp:SIGCOV.

midday article is just a photo gallery, without any critical assessment of her career.

This proves the article fails wp:GNG and Wp:SIGCOV both. Zuck28 (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; Economic Times, India Today, HT, Indian Express, HT. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under WP:GNG and provide further opportunity to expand the article. GSS ^💬 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would add that the Salman Khan reference is not a counter argument but perhaps the opposite, as it would ultimately demonstrate her importance as celebrities' fitness/well-being coach (as claimed), and thus the importance of keeping the article. Metamentalist (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Metamentalist, Almost every celebrity is associated with some fitness/ wellness coach, according to your understanding does that make all of those coaches notable? Just because they’re associated with celebrities? See Wp:NOTINHERITED. Zuck28 (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She has been associated with more than one, and has produced work in different media (books and DVDs) on the matter, she's not the "average" wellness coach. Metamentalist (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete:Agree with the nomination here. Notability is not established with significant professional sources. It is a gathering of mentions, routine coverage at best. Coldupnorth (talk) 18:04, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dynasties of Ahirs

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This article is a WP:COATRACK of loosely connected dynasties, many of which lack reliable scholarly consensus linking them to the Ahir community. The references often fail WP:RS & some are misused to support fringe or WP:UNDUE historical claims...also fails WP:V, and WP:SYNTH. Chronos.Zx (talk) 15:32, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Evidence of synthesis includes the lists of states far apart from each other and from different epochs. Bearian (talk) 15:32, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Khasa dynasty and Kings

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Needless fork of Khasa Kingdom. Good content could be merged. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.Ixudi (talk) 12:19, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

khasa kingdom is different , and the kingdom who ruled by khasa race is different Imperial khasah (talk) 13:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nomination is clearly in error. It's not a subtopic or fork of Khasa Kingdom. Khasa Kingdom was a specific kingdom in a specific place in a specific time period, which the list article claims would be but one entry in it, the Khasa people having established many kingdoms in various places throughout history. Per WP:AGF, I would suggest seeking a review from an expert (or working with the article creator and/or any experienced editor with access to all the sources) before moving to delete. Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT, absolutely terrible article that is an embarassment to Wikipedia. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:14, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – does not seem like a fork to me, as 'K Kingdom' is a political entity, while list lists rulers of a particular ethnicity. (List is pretty confusing though, maybe oughtta follow other 'Lists of monarchs' format with dynasties/houses being just a column in a single table/list of rulers?) – Asdfjrjjj (talk) 19:06, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per WP:TNT. Dolphish (talk) 12:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kalinchowk Cricket Ground

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. In fact, very little coverage of any sort was found. Was a contested redirect with zero improvement (adding a source which doesn't mention the subject is not an improvement). Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:29, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no sources with WP:SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio 16:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect add a short paragraph to Surkhet District about the ground and associated cricket teams, and then redirect this article there. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: No clear consensus on an outcome yet. For what it's worth, the nominator's contested redirect was pointed to Karnali Province cricket team.
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Note on relister's comment I personally oppose redirect to Karnali Province cricket team, as both them and Karnali Yaks (who don't have a separate article) play there, and so it would be a WP:SURPRISE to redirect there IMO. Which is why I suggested a more general article that could mention both teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:14, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nepal Proposed deletions

Pardeshi (via WP:PROD on 11 April 2025)
Zindagi Rocks (via WP:PROD on 11 April 2025)

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Pakistan

Muhammad Ishaq Khattak (officer)

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No significant coverage in reliable sources, including from any of the references currently present. Most of the article is currently not verified by the citations. A WP:BEFORE did not find anything to support notability, although Urdu-language sources may have something. I suggest redirecting to List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep a two star general (3rd highest active rank in Pakistan Army) with country's second highest award (Hilal-i-Imtiaz). Clearly Passes WP:ANYBIO. Behappyyar (talk) 16:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Behappyyar, if WP:GNG is not met, it doesn't matter if the subject meets WP:ANYBIO. See community consensus that "no subject-specific notability guideline supersedes the General Notability Guideline". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 The rank of major general, combined with being a Hilal-i-Imtiaz (Military; the second highest award), reflects a career of national-level distinction. These are not routine achievements.
As per WP:NOTE: "The barometer of notability is whether reliable sources cover the subject in significant detail." In military contexts, however, high-ranking officers are often not profiled in depth unless involved in controversy. Behappyyar (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Every major general of Pakistan (of whom there are currently 186) has received the Hilal-i-Imtiaz; that is the routine purpose of the award. Yes, if an officer, no matter how high-ranking, has not received coverage in reliable sources, they are not notable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 Your assertion here is factually incorrect, it is not the case that every Major General in Pakistan receives the Hilal-i-Imtiaz. There is no official policy mandating this. Even if a significant number are awarded it, that does not diminish its status as a nationally recognized honor (2nd highest award) explicitly listed under WP:ANYBIO.

More importantly, WP:ANYBIO does not require an award to be rare, it requires that the subject has received a "widely recognized honor or award at a national level" or "held a significant command position in a national military organization." This subject satisfies both conditions: a two-star general and a recipient of the Hilal-i-Imtiaz.

Additionally, coverage in reliable sources is a requirement of WP:GNG, but it is not a requirement of WP:ANYBIO. As per WP:N:

"Satisfying any one of the notability guidelines is sufficient for notability."

Behappyyar (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind pointing out where WP:N states that latter quote Behappyyar? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:46, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 I wrote it in my own words. Here is the exact quote:

A topic is presumed to merit an article if:

It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG). Behappyyar (talk) 19:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And what are the criteria outlined in the subject-specific notability guideline? You are looking for WP:NBASIC, which requires "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". WP:ANYBIO is part of the "additional criteria", where people "are likely to be notable" but "meeting one or more [criteria] does not guarantee that a subject should be included".

If an article does not meet the basic criteria but meets the additional criteria, you should look at the section titled "Failing basic criteria but meeting additional criteria". There, you see that the best solution is to "Merge the article into a broader article providing context." In this case, I suggest merging or redirecting to List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army.

I think this encompassses my full argument, and will not be responding further in this nomination. Best wishes, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Siding with AirshipJungleman29 here. The biggest issue is simply the lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources (WP:GNG) for this general. The Hilal-i-Imtiaz award is routinely given to every major general in the Pakistan Army. So, it's a common service award, not something that automatically makes someone notable for their own Wikipedia page, especially when there aren't in-depth articles written about them elsewhere. Wikipedia's WP:N policy is clear: just because someone might fit a subject-specific guideline like WP:ANYBIO, it doesn't matter if we can't find solid, independent sources to actually write the article from. Rackaballa (talk) 01:46, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fazal Ali Khan

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This individual article fails in WP:GNG, and WP:SIGCOV. There is only passing mention in news articles from a single news organization. The other two sources also have only WP:TRIVIALMENTION that he was the son of Chaudhri Sultan Ali that doesn't confirm the notability even when his father's article doesn't even exist. Delete this article per WP:FAILN. Sybercracker (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom, the nominator has a best reason. It seems article have many issues with sources. Dolphish (talk) 00:18, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tasleem Ahmed Sabri

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Article Tasleem Ahmed Sabri fails to demonstrate significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources, as required under the general notability guideline WP:GNG. References cited are either primary sources (e.g. his own TV programs, ARY Qtv) or a self published Hamariweb profile which is also not reliable reference.

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Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG even WP:THREE. Baqi:) (talk) 11:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hind-Pak Bordernama

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Author and publisher are both non-notable. The two sources in the article [36] [37] are both largely interviews of the author, which are excluded under WP:NBOOK: publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. The only other source I found during WP:BEFORE is this brief article [38] which just says that the book was "widely acclaimed". Astaire (talk) 01:02, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aapa Shameem

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Closed as no consensus last month. Original rationale - "YouTube series that fails notability guidelines. Sourcing is unreliable or social media links. Twice decliend at AfC and an attempted move back to draftspace as an WP:ATD was obejcted to by creator." Recently discovered that one of !keep votes is a SOCK, leaving the creator Keep vote and a WP:VW vote for keep. Attempted to redirect yesterday and was told to take it back to AfD so here we are. CNMall41 (talk) 16:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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pinging non-Sock voters @Reshmaaaa:, @Rahmatula786:, @Behappyyar:. Also note the many disruption attempts to close the previous discussion early, leaving to protection of the discussion. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Aapa Shameem meets the criteria for notability as defined by WP:GNG and WP:NENT. The series has received WP:SIGCOV, non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources:

- DAWN has published at least two critical columns analyzing the show themes, characters, and broadcast platform, not merely mentioning it.

- Independent Urdu, a variant of The Independent, ran an analytical feature article titled (translated to English) "Aapa Shameem: Good for few and Bad for the others" which covers the show in depth.

- South Asia Magazine, a regional magazine provided full plot, cast, and broadcast details, showing editorial depth.

- Additional coverge from The Nation, Samaa TV, The Express Tribune, and BizAsiaLive (UK) adds independent recognition and visibility.

These outlets meet the standards of WP:RS and are unaffiliated with the subject. Claims that the show is a “YouTube series” are demonstrably false – it aired on a national broadcast network, as confirmed by DAWN.

Also, no references in the article rely on social media or user-generated platforms. The current nomination hinges largely on a procedural point (sock vote), not a new substantive challenge to the article's notability. In line with WP:NOTABILITY and WP:ATD, this article deserves to remain in the mainspace. The table below demonstrates the show meets WP:GNG and WP:NENT via coverage in reliable, independent, and in-depth sources which go beyond trivial mentions and fulfill notability criteria per WP:GNG and WP:NENT.

Source	Type	Coverage	Independence	Reliability	Summary of Content
DAWN – The Tube Column	National newspaper	In-depth analysis	Independent of subject	High	Discusses broadcast details, themes of domestic power dynamics, and show's placement on national TV; not a passing mention.
Independent Urdu	Reputable news site (localized version of The Independent)	Thematic critique	Independent	High	Critical column titled “Aapa Shameem: Good for Few and Bad for the Others” – explores polarizing viewer reactions and social commentary.
SouthAsia Magazine	Regional print & digital magazine	Feature article	Independent	High	Offers comprehensive plot summary, cast information, and significance of the series in Pakistani pop culture.
The Nation	National newspaper	Mention with context	Independent	High	Cites the series in the context of TV viewership and debut performances.
The Express Tribune	English-language national daily (partnered with The New York Times)	Trends coverage	Independent	High	Analyzes how the show gained attraction via YouTube uploads by the official broadcaster.
Samaa TV	Private national broadcaster	Coverage of lead actress's debut	Independent	Medium–High	Highlights the debuut of lead actor Zoha Tauqeer and the show's role in launching her career.
BizAsiaLive (UK)	British entertainment/media site	Ratings and visibility	Independent	Medium	Reports on South Asian TV shows’ international performance and reception in UK-based diaspora.

Also as claimed, I'm in no hurry to close the discussion. If that would have been the casez why would I confidently ask the nominator to take it to WP:AfD again. Reshmaaaa (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kallar Kahar Science College

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This article's pretty much built entirely on primary sources. If it weren't an educational institution, it would've been an easy A7 speedy delete. But since A7 doesn't apply here, I'm bringing it to AfD instead. Junbeesh (talk) 11:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The article meets notability requirements under WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and WP:General Notability Guideline. The college has been the subject of multiple independent, reliable news sources:

In 2013, it secured all top three positions in the Pre-Medical and Pre-Engineering groups in BISE Rawalpindi's HSSC results. (Dawn, link)
In 2018, a student from the college achieved first position again in the BISE results. (Geo News, link)
The institution has also been covered by 24NewsHD following a transportation incident in 2025. (link)

These reliable, third-party sources demonstrate that the college is independently notable beyond its own promotional materials. I have added verifiable references, improved neutrality, and rewritten the article to comply with Wikipedia content policies. Unknown (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FaheemPindiSaidpur The first two sources link to irrelevant articles and the third source leads to an error page. Please do not use LLMs to communicate or write anything on Wikipedia, see WP:LLM. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks you for notifying me. I'm improving this page Unknown (talk) 03:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete doesn't meet the WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and WP:GNG. Links above provided by an editor leads to error, page not found or irrelevant news article. Behappyyar (talk) 11:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources, appears that minimal coverage exists outside of social media mentions. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tahirkheli

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GNG fails, not enough coverage Dolphish (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – This page has been dramatically shrunk over time. It seems to have had issues with edit warring and original research. Some of the sources it used to cite included [39] and [40]. – Ike Lek (talk) 04:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tehreek-e-Nizam-e-Mustafa

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:15, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and Move as it was a notable movement to implement Islamic law in specifically Azad Kashmir region (not in Pakistan). So move it to Tehreek-e-Nizam-e-Mustafa Azad Kashmir. Behappyyar (talk) 15:31, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Washuk bus accident

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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or a brief mention in Washuk. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:08, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep (weak) - PM and notable people commented, and event seems recent, so might still prove notable via WP:LASTING, maybe - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 19:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep terrible mass casualty accident, clearly notable. What another horrible accident. JMWt (talk) 20:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have in-depth nor sustained continued coverage of the event itself with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks per the above. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well unsurprisingly the families do not consider this to be a news story. In July 2024 they made public their call for a boycott of the bus company and the bus company was shut down after an investigation.

If I could search better in Urdu, I think there are very strong indications that there is more analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis to be found in the media and sustained coverage beyond a single day. JMWt (talk) 17:25, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify The main point of disagreement here seems to be that it is unclear if this is a case of WP:LASTING. Therefore, I think the best idea is to keep it as a draft form rather than going all the way on a delete and see if the accident continues to be notable since it only happened a little over a year ago. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan Champions Cricket League

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No evidence this event passes WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:51, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: not enough WP:SIGCOV on independent reliable sources other than WP:ROUTINE coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio 16:31, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Shah Latif and his message

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This is mentioned in two English sources but not quite enough to be significant. Attempted to search in Sindhi but didn't have much luck. If more coverage does not exist, I would suggest redirecting to author G. M. Syed, but the title is incorrectly capitalized. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep a very well known topic Shaahaajaahaan (talk) 12:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)~~ — Shaahaajaahaan (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Aniruddhchaudhuy (talk · contribs). [reply]

@Shaahaajaahaan That isn't a notability guideline, and no, this book isn't. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to G. M. Syed: Book did not meet notability guidelines, i will go with the redirect to it's author. Behappyyar (talk) 09:17, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge whatever unsatisfactory coverage that has been demonstrated of this subject in this article into the main article. Barnt Toust 02:50, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to main article to preserve some of the content. Archrogue (talk) 14:50, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Philippines

Pangangan Island

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See WP:ANI incident for context. Pangangan Island passes notability per WP:GEONATURAL but it's better to start from scratch than incorporate the LLM inputs in the article's history. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amay Bisaya

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See WP:ANI incident for context. Amay Bisaya might be notable but it's better to start from scratch than incorporate the LLM inputs in the article's history. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mister Philippines 2007

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Tagged as Unreferenced for 12+ years. This has been proposed for deletion three times in that time. No other language has an article from which to translate. A WP:BEFORE search revealed Zero reliable sources online Google, Zero sources on Google news, and only two sources on Google books/newspapers (both from the somewhat unreliable and always conjectural Manila Times), thus lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 16:16, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Borgenland (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also noting that the opening suggest that this was a hoax anyway. Borgenland (talk) 16:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. If no Mister Philippines pageant took place that year, then how is that year's edition notable? AstrooKai (Talk) 18:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails WP:GNG / WP:NEVENT. Concur that if the event didn’t happen then it is not notable. Dan arndt (talk) 00:13, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, an article on something that doesn't exist is the definition of not passing WP:GNG. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 03:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and lack of sourcing. Surayeproject3 (talk) 17:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

100 Awit Para Kay Stella

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Appears to fail WP:NFF. Nothing found to support notability. I would also support a move to DRAFT until released. DonaldD23 talk to me 11:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now, until WP:FPP is satisfied. Preview says "from the plot to the release date, details about the upcoming film remain under wraps". As the sequel for 100 Tula Para Kay Stella, the film will be notable, just not right now. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 100_Tula_Para_Kay_Stella#Sequel for now per WP:ATD --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:39, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 100 Tula Para Kay Stella#Sequel make it soon AdobongPogi (talk) 08:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 100 Tula Para Kay Stella#Sequel: per WP:ATD-R AstrooKai (Talk) 08:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tawag ng Tanghalan season 1

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Virtually all references are WP:PRIMARY (ABS-CBN/Facebook/Youtube) thus failing WP:GNG. This was originally sent to WP:PROD but was deprodded. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages due to the same reason:

Several other seasonal articles are on PROD; if those are not deleted via that process, I reserve the right to add those to this nomination. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:03, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also added this:

Howard the Duck (talk) 22:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also adding this as previously sent to PROD (not by me):

Howard the Duck (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all More It's Showtime "show within a show" cruft primarily sourced to the ABS-CBN website (which should only be used in the official website section and nothing more), exactly like the Rainbow Rumble articles. Nathannah • 📮 23:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete all: WP:FANCRUFT violations. Dump all to non-encyclopedic fandom wiki sites. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:13, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding this article:

FYR, Wcquidditch and JWilz12345. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:32, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh Dilay

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The article lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The references only offer passing mentions and didn't provide in-depth information to support a standalone article or biography, failing yo meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:BLP. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sponge Cola, of which he is a longtime member. I can find no evidence that he has done anything notable outside of that band. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per above. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sponge Cola per above. AstrooKai (Talk) 16:03, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sponge Cola unless there are new cites that supports independent notability --Lenticel ^(talk) 06:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Helios (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. Source 1 barely mentions the company. Sources 2, 3 and 5 are very similar; 3 and 5 appear to be unbylined press releases and 2 is churnalism of the same press release. Source 4 is non-independent as practically all information comes from the mouth of cofounder Alexander Aronson. Sources 6 and 7 don't load (probably a result of using ChatGPT). I can't find any non-routine coverage of the company. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Higino A. Acala Sr.

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Barely any reliable sources seen in Google Books and in an outside search. His role doesn't seem notable, as he doesn't have any coverage (the movement seems quite notable but only in law sources). Other than that, he isn't notable whatsoever. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 04:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I was unable to find a copy of the listed reference - Elvin A. Cabañero; Higino M. Acala Jr. (2000). Biography of Higino Acala Sr - on the Internet; though as one of the authors appears to be his son, it is probably not sufficiently independent regardless. Curbon7 (talk) 04:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've spent some more time looking for sources with a number of search queries, but none have returned any significant coverage (actually, this returned almost no sourcing at all besides name-drops in lists of lawyers in the Philippines [41]), and I do not think the book above would be reliable as it is written by two relatives. The subject did not hold an WP:NPOL-qualifying position, nor does he appear to pass WP:GNG. There is no obvious WP:ATD target, so delete. Curbon7 (talk) 04:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunato F. Halili National Agricultural School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL and WP:GNG. Scoria (talk) 09:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no good hits in GBooks, GNews and GNews Archives. One of their rondallas covering an Itchyworms song was featured in a news article here but that's about it. --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:11, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bignay National High School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL and WP:GNG. Scoria (talk) 12:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the National Schools system are selective-admissions, special funded, and administered schools in the Philippines. This school in particular has gotten significant coverage in books and the media. Bearian (talk) 11:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There were 6 books search hits. Three were government sources about laws appropriating the school its budget, as it is a national school and is financed and controlled by the national government. Financing this school is on every annual national budget, so if Google Books has copies of the national budget or the Congressional Record starting from 2004, there'd be 21 such instances. I do not think that counts as WP:GNG. Two seem to be biographies about authors (not WP:GNG for the school per se), and the other seems to be a bad hit.

There are five media sources. These looks to be (1) 6 Valenzuela schools getting computers, of which this school is one of them, (2) back to school news with the same old problems (not specific for this school, FWIW), (1) some student from this school winning an award (not WP:GNG for this school per se), and (1) students from this school going to the public library for national library day (you could argue this to be WP:GNG for the school, the library, or both). Howard the Duck (talk) 14:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify — Definitely could be improved in draft space until it passes GNG to be accepted. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 10:32, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete - high schools are not inherently notable, I dont see WP:THREE. The article doesnt contain anything beyond boilerplate enrollment number and description of head teachers. --hroest 17:32, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles proposed for deletion (WP:PROD)

Shampoo Ni Lola (via WP:PROD on 21 March 2025)
Flag of Cagayan (via WP:PROD on 19 March 2025)

Shortcut

WP:SGDS

Singapore

AIBI International

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Unsourced article about a company. As always, companies are not automatically entitled to have articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of passing WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH on third-party reliable source coverage about them in media and books -- but this is completely unsourced unless you count the company's own self-published website in the external links (which doesn't count), and says nothing about the company that would be "inherently" notable enough to hand it a presumption of notability without sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: My searches are not finding anything to satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH. A company going about its business (judging from the Wayback Machine June 25 snapshot - the company website appears currently unavailable), but I am not seeing the coverage to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 20:11, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Floodgate effect

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Possibly specific to Singaporean English as creator might be from Singapore? As a Brit I have never heard this phrase although Brits might say “open the floodgate”. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:53, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: By itself, not knowing of a phrase is not a reason for deletion. I'd think the real problem here is that this has been tagged as completely unsourced since December 2009. I don't have any opinion beyond that, though. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Although the words appear in some book results, there is seemingly no coverage of this as a distinct term, it's not on Wiktionary, and almost every other result I found was about yugioh or some video game. Unsourced since creation in 2005. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 19:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Some uses on GS suggest possible notability, but what we have here is an unsourced stub that merits WP:TNT (a rewrite could be done now, ping me if this is rescued and I'll revise my vote if necessary). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Helios (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. Source 1 barely mentions the company. Sources 2, 3 and 5 are very similar; 3 and 5 appear to be unbylined press releases and 2 is churnalism of the same press release. Source 4 is non-independent as practically all information comes from the mouth of cofounder Alexander Aronson. Sources 6 and 7 don't load (probably a result of using ChatGPT). I can't find any non-routine coverage of the company. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Adlane Messelem

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Declined PROD based on this source [42]. Too little to establishes WP:GNG for a staff personnel. Svartner (talk) 04:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, that article is certainly a start. One or two more like that and I think he'd have WP:SIGCOV. I'll take a bit of a look. Ike Lek (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- ok, so far I have found these [43][44][45][46][47][48] and I can't tell if this is the same person [49] While he seems to be a French Algerian, he likely has an Arabic name as he appears to be closely connected to the country and not just a French person born there. If anyone knows what it might be, I may be able to find more info on his earlier life. - Ike Lek (talk) 05:14, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. Sources above look to be WP:NOTNEWS. If significant sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:18, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep? I'm surprised how much coverage there is of him coaching Sabah FC for only a couple months mostly because I'm not very familiar with Malaysian coverage, but it looks like it's enough for an article. I found a couple PressReader articles as well which are near impossible to correctly link. SportingFlyer T·C 19:21, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete—I think I might be able to be convinced on this one (even though the article itself is terrible), but as it stands, there's nothing but speculation that he might come close to WP:GNG. Currently, though, he fails it. Anwegmann (talk) 01:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per sources in article (like the FourFourTwo source) and ones supplied by Ike Lek. Has experience managing a few pro teams and has sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 06:51, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: The last two sources from Singapore are about this person; I pulled up the Independent in my own search, then saw it was already sourced in the article. Some coverage about him being hired with little to no experience/lack of local knowledge. Oaktree b (talk) 13:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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South Korea

2025 Incheon shooting

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 15:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is more of a news murder than encyclopedic shooting event Czarking0 (talk) 17:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Guns have been completely and strictly banned in South Korea for many decades. So this incident shouldn't be compared with any shooting case in the US, since their possession of firearms is so widespread and public. Meanwhile, multiple media outlets confirmed that the perpetrator was involved in an attempted bombing on a large residential complex where he lives, so that many people even started to view the case as "terrorism".

Timers were set to explode at noon and the whole building might be endangered if they went enabled, all confirmed by an official police briefing.

The most recent shooting crime in South Korea, excepting this and any military incidents, took place more than nine years ago, proving any gun crimes in South Korea are super rare, unlike the US having annual cases of mass shootings without skipping a year. I think I showed enough that the case is not routine at all and so unusual. -StarBiologist (talk) 19:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Replying to the above as well; while the event is certainly unusual, judging on our own of what is unusual isn't really part of WP:NEVENT. Plenty of unusual things with minimal impact and coverage only around the time of the event that wouldn't pass the criteria. Until there's more clear evidence of WP:EVENTCRIT, I lean delete. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 04:20, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chang Ho-chirl

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Declined A7 speedy deletion (since it's not a recently created article, apparently). South Korean singer who is not significantly covered in any reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ApexParagon (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - this is not a keep/delete recommendation from me, but just to note that I found these three sources with a decent amount of coverage in Chinese: udn.com, sohu.com, zaobao.com.sg which suggests to me that the subject may be notable. I'll take a better look a bit later. Not sure about the reliability of Sohu as a source. But on the face of it United Daily News and Lianhe Zaobao look OK. It's a bit of a pity that the zhwiki article, which is lengthier, is similarly ill-sourced. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Park Sang-hyeok (footballer, born 2002)

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Doesn't appear to pass WP:NATHLETE. I prod'd and creator deprod'd. They added a few sources but they're only passing mentions. Also noting this article isn't the only one they've created with this issue; feel like NATHLETE needs to be read and adhered to closer in general. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 05:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Continuing a discussion from my talk page. User talk:grapesurgeon#Related to Park Sang-hyeok. @Issue0501: please read WP:NATHLETE more carefully; statistics don't count towards proof of notability. You need news articles that discuss him in depth beyond just passing mentions of his name. And please don't get so angry at me; we're not enemies, we're working together to build an encyclopedia. I'm just following Wikipedia policy. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:10, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added an article with some reference to his playstyle. Here's an article that goes into more detail about him. Issue0501 (talk) 06:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And you weren't angry? How can you be sure that you were angry? Issue0501 (talk) 06:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OHMYNEWS is considered an unreliable source because it's WP:UGC. Also I wasn't angry? Let's just focus on the content, strange counteraccusation grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can you be so sure that this is a strange rebuttal? You are only focusing on the content. If you can't trust Korean media articles, then how can you understand the numerous domestic media articles on Japanese athletes? If you can't trust statistical sites and articles, then it's right to just delete them. Issue0501 (talk) 06:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What? I do trust Korean media articles, I use them in my own writings all the time. I already explained to you what the issues are. You need to have reliable sources (in any language) that discuss him in depth. Statistics aren't enough.

When I said "strange counteraccusation", I meant that it was strange you were saying I was angry at you. I hadn't really said anything that made it seem like I was angry at you?

Also, to others reading, noting that Issue0501 blanked the article after making that comment. I undid the blanking; articles in article space shouldn't be blank. Also, the discussion is still ongoing so should wait until this discussion concludes. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 06:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Stop here and delete it quickly. This document can't exist anyway. Issue0501 (talk) 06:57, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - young player with nearly 100 appearances (and ongoing career) in top Korean professional league. Has a WP:BEFORE been done for sources in Korean? Giant Snowman 19:12, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Jong-cheol

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No medals. No evidence of meeting WP:NATHLETE grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to South Korea at the 1960 Summer Olympics#Athletics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 00:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – hard to search for. Hangul name appears to be "김종철" for anyone interested in giving it a shot, but it is just way too common of a name. – Ike Lek (talk) 07:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I should have said earlier; I had searched in Korean and found nothing substantive. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 07:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing articles with the name in an athletics/Olympic context here: [50] But because the text is rasterized (not copy/pasteable) I have no way to translate them. --Habst (talk) 13:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst: If text isn't copy-pastable, try taking a picture using Snipping Tool, save, then upload it to Google Translate's image translator. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect unless archive searches bring up something. AFAIK, this looks like a particularly common Hangul name. Could not find anything else myself. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 12:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Project Moon

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Company fails WP:CORPDEPTH with a lack of significant coverage. There is coverage of one specific controversy involving the studio, but that alone does not confer inherited notability on the studio itself. Contested PROD that claims WP:SOURCESEXIST, but no examples given, nor could I find any in any language. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The sources exist, independently from the controversy.[51][52][53] Inven is a video gaming outlet, but the latter two — News1 and Pressian — are legitimate news media commonly cited here and their coverage goes beyond simple mentions, reporting about the company's prospect. They are not in the article yet, but I can add them. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:CORPTRIV. The 2nd and 3rd articles are very clearly "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:59, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a routine coverage. It's Suwon city goverment investing on the company, which is rare and far from standard. Reports related to the controversy also satisfy audience requirement since newspapers like Yonhap News Agency, Kyunghyang Shinmun, and The Hankyoreh are some of the biggest news agencies in the nation. All of these are best compiled in the article about the company. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:42, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is a brief 1-paragraph article that says that someone invested in the company. This falls under WP:CORPTRIV as "of a capital transaction, such as raised capital", or something similar. Who did it is irrelevant. I think my point has been made though, so I won't push it further besides stating my opinion you are incorrect. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suwon's investment agreement is always a focal point of the regional newspapers due to the major perks and development in the special case city economics, which are stated in the articles, so I disagree with that. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Emiya Mulzomdao's sources grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 19:09, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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KineMaster

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please read this discussion in rfd, as i'll be assuming you've done so when i suggest deleting to start from scratch, because i'm not even entirely sure the content that was made from the scraps of a revision blanked as spam can be called a stub, as it barely meets the bare minimum for gng, and barely does the bare minimum with that bare minimum coverage, which is really weird when more sources have already been found (though their reliability is up for debate, so check the rfd thread again, because they're piled up there)

the options, as i see them, culminate in deletion being the best choice to encourage recreation (or rather, creation), as keeping and redirecting could cause editors more excited about this than literally falling asleep while checking sources to think the current situation is fine, unless someone is in the mood to actually add more to it consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 20:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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hey wait a minute, the current revision at the time of nomination doesn't even meet the bare minimum for gng, as it only has sources from two different places!! this means that, unless worked on within the time this discussion is up, i don't think keeping would be an option at all consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 20:45, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pak Yong-ho

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Declined PROD by an IP user. No WP:SIGCOV found. Svartner (talk) 01:27, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - best name to search for is probably "朴永浩" since he played in Japan and there is another soccer player in Korea with the same name, so using his Korean name could be confusing, and translating his surname as Pak instead of Park in English is a little odd, but does seem to be how he is listed in English records. That being said, most mentions of him seem to be in articles about his son. – Ike Lek (talk) 23:19, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Miraculous Brothers

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Chang Ho-chirl

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Declined A7 speedy deletion (since it's not a recently created article, apparently). South Korean singer who is not significantly covered in any reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ApexParagon (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - this is not a keep/delete recommendation from me, but just to note that I found these three sources with a decent amount of coverage in Chinese: udn.com, sohu.com, zaobao.com.sg which suggests to me that the subject may be notable. I'll take a better look a bit later. Not sure about the reliability of Sohu as a source. But on the face of it United Daily News and Lianhe Zaobao look OK. It's a bit of a pity that the zhwiki article, which is lengthier, is similarly ill-sourced. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thailand

Diamond Eyes: The Series

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No source, and I can't find any secondary sources that mention this series. This series exists, but it was not notable, because IMO it failed WP:NTV.

Also, the article in its current state is written in WP:TOOSOON, though this is 2025, and the article now is out-of-date, and needs to be rewritten entirely. 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥^{(ContainThisEmber?)} 15:05, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Pakphum Wonjinda: WP:ATD (director of all episodes). - Eva Ux 11:17, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Pakphum Wonjinda. Redirecting is a second choice because there is no unambiguously correct redirection target – Wonjinda is the director but the top star Yamnam also has an article. But redirection is fine. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 22:04, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vietnam

FPT Software

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Promotional article on a company that has never cited any in-depth, independent sources and has almost never been substantially edited by independent contributors. No evidence of notability * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:27, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have found a computerweekly and bloomberg source which might convey notability. However as one (Bloomberg) is paywalled and the other requires an account I have not actually been able to check this. Most other coverage that I could find (using google news) do not appear to provide notability and/or are not actually independent from FPT Software. Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 19:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion the Computerweekly peace lacks independent content; most of the article is based on an interview with the founder. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:09, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For whatever reason I can now access the Computerweekly article. I do largely agree with your opinion, while I do believe that there are large portions of independent analysis/commentary this is sufficiently hard to determine (due to the fact that some seeming quotes are not marked with “ ”). As such I would argue it should be excluded under WP:ORGIND not because it neccessarily lacks independent content but because If a source's independence is in any doubt, it is better to exercise caution and exclude it from determining quality sources for the purposes of establishing notability. Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 07:16, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I understand the importance of Wikipedia’s guidelines on notability and the need for independent, secondary sources. To that end, I’ve identified and am incorporating several reliable, third-party sources that demonstrate significant coverage of FPT Software: Forbes – The Startup Behind Vietnam’s Tech Transformation (Jan 2024) – This article offers detailed, independent coverage of FPT Software’s role in Vietnam’s emergence as a global tech hub, including business impact, partnerships, and strategic growth. CIO.com – Is Vietnam the Next Source for CIO Inspiration? – This piece provides context for Vietnam’s IT services sector and features FPT Software as a key player, discussed from a CIO and enterprise IT strategy perspective. I fully acknowledge that some earlier content may have relied too heavily on primary sources or company-affiliated material. I am actively working to replace promotional language with a neutral tone, cite more secondary sources that provide independent analysis and ensure all significant claims are verifiable through reputable publications. FPT Software is widely recognized as one of Vietnam’s largest IT service providers, with global clients and significant media coverage. Rather than delete the article, I propose continued improvement to align fully with Wikipedia's content standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emlien75 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing the sources, now for my analysis of them:

Forbes - This is written by a contributor, consensus amongst editors is that articles written by Forbes contributors are not reliable sources (see WP:FORBESCON) unless they also appear in a print edition which this doesn’t seem to.

CIO.com - Provides significant, seemingly independent coverage, and is not discussed at WP:RS/P.

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~~Weak Delete~~ Merge to FPT Corporation as per HighKing; While the article is entirely unsourced, there are a few sources which could help show notability. Namely the CIO.com source, which does count as a source to show notability; the computerweekly source, which at a stretch may contribute to notability but probably doesn’t; and the bloomberg source, which as yet no one has accessed and given opinions on meaning that it can’t help contribute notability right now.
As such I don’t currently think that notability can be demonstrated, but I believe that the bloomberg source could (if anyone accesses it and tells us what it contains) tip the balance in my eyes. Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 18:11, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'Merge to FPT Corporation as per WP:ATD. HighKing⁺⁺ 20:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Children of Peace International

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Last AfD was no consensus. Putting this to AfD as I don't think there's enough coverage to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 01:03, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – A review of the sources posted by @NatGertler: in the last AfD would be interesting. Svartner (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- As I noted at the previous AFD (to no response from the proposer), here is substantial coverage in the Fort Collins Coloradoan (article continues here). Here is a meaty piece on a joint effort of COPI and the local Soroptomist Club in the Jackson Hole News and Guide. This is just the continuation of a front-page story from the Star-Herald. That should nudge us past WP:NORG. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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