User talk:Elemimele

A cup of tea for you!

It's good to have you back! bonadea contributions talk 08:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bonadea: thanks! Elemimele (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember if we directly interacted during the big Tim Hunt brouhaha, or whether we were just participating in the vicinity of each other; whichever it was, I thought your contributions were consistently thoughtful and constructive. I was sorry to see you unhappy about it all, and I'm glad that you've returned. Happy editing, JBL (talk) 23:09, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks loads, I've really appreciated all the supportive, positive comments since coming back - and I'm definitely steering clear of controversy for the foreseeable future! Elemimele (talk) 16:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your ANI request made while logged out

Hi Elemimele! I wanted to welcome you back to Wikipedia and let you know that I'm happy to see that you've managed to work out your emotions and feelings and resume your volunteer work on the project. The self-evaluation of one's own emotions (unfortunately) isn't a commonly observed behavior with editors on this project; the fact that you did this on your own is commendable and a rare (and special) personality trait - don't ever let it leave you! ;-)

I'm also messaging you because I saw that you made this request (now archived) and while you were logged out of your account (you obviously had no choice, since you had wikibreak enforcer enabled on your account, you couldn't log into it). To keep your personal information (namely, your IP address) safe from public exposure and possible harassment, I went ahead and redacted your IP information from the discussion and suppressed the information from both the revision history of ANI, as well as the archive page that the discussion was eventually moved to. No action is required on your end; I've already taken care of everything in that regard for you.

Please let my know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to answer them and discuss them with you. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Oshwah: Really appreciate that, thank you! Elemimele (talk) 09:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elemimele - Of course; happy to be of assistance. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding Draft:Joachim Richborn

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Cumulative density function has an RfC

Cumulative density function has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Trovatore (talk) 21:33, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

I didn't intend to delete your post in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pes-caprae: I have a faint memory of half-dropping my phone and wondering whether I'd done something like that: should have checked my contributions list to check. Sorry about that! PamD 23:08, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: no worries, I often fade out of AfD conversations anyway; I feel that when I've said my bit, it's time to step back and let others say theirs, and trust the closer to balance it all up. I didn't feel all that strongly about pes-caprae anyway. I ought to stop AfD-ing and get back to translating organ builders... (although that involves being frustrated with German wikipedia for general referencing, and AfC reviewers for their not liking general referencing) Elemimele (talk) 09:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Burlakov case

Hi Elemimele. I wonder if you noticed that I responded to your comments at Talk:Oleg Burlakov#Merge proposal. I also re-posted the merge tags, to try to get a robust discussion going on the Talk page. I hope you can continue in the conversation, and if you have any ideas how to get more voices to join so we can make some progress on this issue, I would really appreciate it. Thanks so much, MarcusEllington90 (talk) 09:38, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I raised it at the BLP noticeboard, but no one seems terribly interested. I am frustrated by this particular article because it doesn't seem to me to conform to Wikipedia's standards, but I can't assess the Russian sources, and don't know the Russian press. It looks like a case of an article that's doomed to be inadequate because the main proponent of the article can simply ignore all attempts at change, and you've got a COI. It's a stalemate. I have no idea what to do. It's not really my field of expertise anyway, I can't remember how I came to be mixed up in it. Elemimele (talk) 20:07, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thank you for posting this issue to the BLP noticeboard. I share your frustration, especially when the merge tags have once again (for the third time) been deleted, and this time with no explanation at all. I understand that trying to figure out what's what on the Burlakov case page can be overwhelming. I plan on carefully going over the article and isolating exactly what content would remain after the redundant (already on Oleg Burlakov) and gossip/slanderous and poorly sourced information has been removed. Hopefully then you and others can get a better idea of whether Burlakov case merits being a stand-alone article (maybe by another name) or should be merged into Oleg Burlakov. I'll ping you when that's done. Thanks so much for your efforts to help. MarcusEllington90 (talk) 10:41, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm involved in this, so there's little I can do. I'm frustrated that the BLP noticeboard discussion seems to have got archived without the problem being solved. The previous ANI fizzled out without anything getting solved. I've raised it again at ANI, which I consider such an unpleasant place that it should be treated as a last resort, because this really is last resort territory. Hopefully this time it might attract attention from someone who can assess the situation independently from outside. Ideally this would be a case for a mediated dispute resolution, but my feeling is that it's unlikely there would be enough engagement for the situation to be resolved. Elemimele (talk) 12:39, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Never be sorry for suggesting improvements to Wikipedia

I saw your apology when offering a well justified delete rationale for a poor article. Wikipedia is improved by creation of worthwhile articles on notable entities and by the deletion of those which fail to meet the inclusion criteria. Please never apologise for doing what you genuinely believe is the correct thing. I am not saying this because you agree with me. I would say it were you to disagree, too. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 11:30, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another Comment on Burlakov

You had asked whether DRN can handle a dispute where one of the parties is a paid editor, and I answered that question with a Yes. However, I also said that the Burlakov dispute could not be discussed at DRN while it was pending at WP:ANI, where you opened the case. You expressed a concern that there were two editors who were approaching the article from opposite directions. I will add that another reason why I would be uneasy about trying to moderate a dispute between ME90 and Ssr is that Ssr doesn't appear to be editing constructively. I don't know what they are trying to do other than complain about sockpuppetry, but there is a right way to address concerns about sockpuppetry, and it isn't by yelling. So one of those editors is a paid editor, which is not a problem as such because they have made a declaration, but it would impose an additional responsibility on the moderator to maintain neutrality. I am not sure what the other editor is trying to do. I am relieved not to be trying to moderate between them. As we know, I started the Merge Discussion, and you took part in it. Maybe that may take care of things.

By the way, I think that Ssr was right in removing the Merge tags. Those were edits that should not have been made by a paid editor. So now they were made by a volunteer editor in good standing. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:19, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I very much appreciate your action in making everything above board and regular. It's frustrating because Burlakov is a subject in which I really have no interest, but I can't really walk away from such a messy article without trying. ANI is not a great place but I did feel that there was a layer of intractable behavioural stuff going on, which prevented getting down to the content beneath; having tried interacting with the editors and with the BLP noticeboard, I couldn't think where else to go. When I wrote my merge support yesterday, I realised that the gossipy, attacky stuff weakens the Burlakov Case article's only real claim to exist: that it's a type-specimen of Russian oligarch inheritance controversy. If the reader can't see the overall picture because of a morass of irrelevant details, then the article has lost its value. I hope when the yelling is over, we will get a cleaner article. Thank you for your efforts and calm input. Elemimele (talk) 06:36, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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