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Hungary

Tamás Kovács-Csatlós

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Non-notable BLP. No SIGCOV. Sources used are unreliable. Isaidnoway (talk) 22:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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please delete it via speedy deletion - I agree with your point G-Lignum (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Per lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 08:21, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Árpád Ajtony

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Lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Velencei Kék Cápák RK

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No independent refs on the page. Not clear how to WP:V the information on the page, it appears that much of it is very out of date. There's a page on hu.wiki which also is poorly referenced. JMWt (talk) 09:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Hungarian exonyms (Mureș County)

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Not notable Chidgk1 (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep I'm generally for deleting exonym lists, but not where there is clear historical relevance. Mureș County was once part of the kingdom of Hungary and, according to our article, part of it still has a Hungarian majority. —Tamfang (talk) 21:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep per Tamfang. -Ike Lek (talk) 01:26, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bear-girl of Krupina

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Very few sources, very likely a hoax. Should be redirected to Feral child. Newklear007 (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Feral child. Either that or translate the German one maybe. 🟥⭐ ^{talk to me!} 14:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: historic possible myth, but with sufficient sourcing for notability. Worth having an article to explain that her status. Article sourcing can probably be improved from the German article. PamD 08:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge. Unless there’s more notable information, I can’t see why it shouldn’t be merged with Feral child along side other notable cases. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 22:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep sourcing on English and German article evidences notability. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations

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Since this article was created in 2011, it has been based almost entirely on citations to sources either from the ICOR itself or from its affiliate members. Attempts to find coverage in reliable secondary source turned up very little. Neither of the cited secondary sources in this article provide significant coverage, only giving the ICOR a passing reference in the wider context of another subject. A cursory Google Scholar search brought up a few self-published Marxist word documents, and one book about German political parties that only mentions the ICOR in passing.

As I have been unable to find significant coverage of this international organisation in reliable sources, and as notability is not inherited from any of its affiliated organisations, I do not think this meets the notability criteria for organisations and am nominating it for deletion. Grnrchst (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I believe there may be a language / coverage issue, as this is English Wikipedia, and there are two or three English-speaking organizations within ICOR. I will look into it this week. Castroonthemoon (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Most online sources I found were either non-independent or were not in-depth. The one book cited in the article was written by Stefan Engel, former chairman of the MLPD, a member organization of ICOR. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 08:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The sources cited by Castroonthemoon are not in-depth (and the last one doesn't seem reliable), and I don't see why we should make an exception here; they have brought up the possibility of a merge with the MLPD, but firstly I don't think they're really related that much, and secondly half of the ICOR article is based on primary sources and the other half is based on passing mentions, so it would be WP:UNDUE. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 08:47, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not looking good for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I have looked into international reports on the organization. There's a surprising amount of information surrounding the group's involvement in Syria, and the hospital that the group built. Castroonthemoon (talk) 05:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm leaning towards Keep Castroonthemoon (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unless Castroonthemoon can cite specific sources with significant coverage, I'm leaning delete. The only mention in Swiss media is [1]. Toadspike [Talk] 08:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of the sources used in the article, I believe [2][3][4][5][6] satisfy requirements. Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first one is a single-sentence passing mention: "Finally, anarchist volunteers organized another unit at the end of March 2017, the International Revolutionary People's Guerrilla Forces (IRPGF), declared as an "informal anarchist armed organization" whose purpose of armed struggle was placed beyond Kurdish issues, in a global perspective." (via Google Translate). The second link is exactly the same page as the first. The third is another single-sentence passing mention ("Hinter dem Projekt steht das linke Bündnis "Internationale Koordinierung revolutionärer Parteien und Organisationen" (ICOR), das um die marxistisch-leninistische Partei Deutschlands (MLPD) gebildet wurde.") The fourth consists entirely of quotes from someone who has been "supported" by ICOR, which is not independent coverage. The fifth isn't independent either – it has no byline and is basically a call for donations by the head of ICOR, ending with their bank info.

None of these sources satisfy the requirements of the GNG or NCORP. Toadspike [Talk] 05:06, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, I believe that the fact that they receive coverage satisfies notability requirements. It's a niche, political topic that isn't going to receive much coverage, especially by Western press, thus I believe that WP:IAR applies in this scenario. I don't think we will find a point of agreement on this, but I think that merging this article into the Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany article is worth considering, per my POC below. Castroonthemoon (talk) 07:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Point of Consideration. I believe the article should be kept, but to those in-favor of deletion, I think there's a solid case to be made that the page should be merged with the Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany article, given that they seem to be the driving force behind most of the organizations actions and statements, as well as the fact that Stefan Engel (or his wife), the former chairman of MLPD, comes up almost everywhere ICOR does Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose a merge, since these two organizations seem to be unrelated aside from Engel. Toadspike [Talk] 08:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The organization is fundamentally led by the MLPD, in the same way that the Comintern was led by the CPSU Castroonthemoon (talk) 18:54, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~. Per above. Castroonthemoon (talk) 07:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have struck this vote, as you can only cast one bolded vote, and you have already done so above. Please be mindful not to BLUDGEON the discussion. Toadspike [Talk] 19:11, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above. After reviewing the points, I'm going for deletion, as it lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. I'm not usually in favor of lateral or downward merges. Bearian (talk) 01:44, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's literally no reason not to. That personal preference does not meet the goal of improving Wikipedia. Castroonthemoon (talk) 07:48, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mamaison Hotels & Residences

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Article created by WP:SPA. References provided do not meet WP:GNG or WP:ORG, as these are all directly from the company itself. Unable to locate significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. C 679 10:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as purely promotional. Jdcooper (talk) 13:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The hotel brand Mamaison Hotels & Residences has received significant coverage through many reviews of its hotels.
1. Phillips, Adrian; Phillips, Monika (2025-06-18). "Mamaison Hotel Andrassy Budapest". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2024-08-20. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Few hotels can claim that they were designed by an Olympic champion; the Hotel Andrassy is one of them. Its Bauhaus building is the work of Alfréd Hajós, who won a pair of gold medals at the Athens Games in 1896 for swimming. The hotel itself is an intimate four star-plus boutique property on Andrássy út, just a stone's throw from City Park."
2. Phillips, Adrian; Phillips, Monika (2025-06-18). "Mamaison Residence Izabella Budapest". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Residence Izabella remains one of the city’s best aparthotels. It’s modern and welcoming, and has good facilities – including a comfortable lounge area and an excellent gym – and stands near the Unesco-listed Andrássy út. The ground floor also received a refurbishment in 2024, meaning it’s more spick and span than ever."
3. Sullivan, Paul (2017-10-01). "Mamaison All-Suites Spa Hotel Pokrovka Moscow". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "This modern, classy boutique enjoys a decent location in Moscow’s Basmanny district. The sumptuous suites have fully equipped kitchenettes, making them a good option for long-term stays, although there is also a good restaurant on-site, as well as a comprehensive spa area with a pool and hammam."
4. Lussiana, Mary (2019-09-01). "Mamaison Hotel Le Regina Warsaw". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  This is a former property of the hotel. It was listed on the website in 2017 but not in 2025. The review notes: "Unique among Warsaw’s best hotels for its location on the cobbled streets of the historical 'New Town', this 61-roomed hotel housed in an ancient palace brims with a sense of place. Its luxurious interiors include a swimming pool and the justifiably acclaimed La Rotisserie restaurant."
5. Waterson, Luke (2019-06-01). "Mamaison Residence Šulekova Bratislava". The Daily Telegraph. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Chirpy minimalist apartments spread across this rambling residence intertwined in the maze of leafy, hilly streets of the Slavín neighbourhood, close to Bratislava castle. With plenty of space and great city views, it gets the thumbs up as one of the city’s best aparthotels."
6. "Mamaison Hotel Le Regina Warsaw". Michelin Guide. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Not to be confused with the British Malmaison chain — MaMaison, no L, is an Eastern European phenomenon, specializing in converting historical buildings to high-end boutique hotels. The markets they’re in are under-served in that particular category, to put it mildly; there’s nothing else in Warsaw, for example, to match the sleek modernity and first-class luxury of the MaMaison Hotel Le Regina."
7. "Mamaison Residence Sulekova Bratislava". Michelin Guide. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Given the relative dearth of boutique hotels in this part of Europe, and in particular the tardiness with which international travelers have embraced Slovakia, it’s a bit surprising, honestly, to find that one of Bratislava’s first small contemporary design hotels is such a strong entry. But that’s exactly what the MaMaison Residence Sulekova is — thirty-two relatively spacious apartments (not rooms, apartments) in a bright and breezy modern style, located in a residential neighborhood right in the heart of old town Bratislava, walking distance from the Danube and the Bratislava Castle."
8. "Fodor's Expert Review: Mamaison Hotel Andrássy Budapest". Fodor's. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Budapest's best boutique hotel is housed in a Bauhaus-style structure built in 1937 and once used as an orphanage. Most rooms are large, but the only nod to actual design are the lighting fixtures."
9. Narizhnaya, Khristina. "Mamaison All-Suites Spa Hotel Pokrovka". Frommer's. Archived from the original on 2021-12-08. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "The luxury spa hotel is the perfect choice for business travelers as well as those after a romantic weekend with lots of pampering. The two-level Algotherm spa and its wide range of treatments are the highlights here."
10. Banfalvi, Carolyn. "MaMaison Hotel Andrássy". Frommer's. Archived from the original on 2024-12-13. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Under the Communists, this four-story, art-deco building from the 1930s was a drab hotel for visiting politicians from other Eastern Bloc countries. Now, it's an attractive upscale boutique hotel that makes for a great base. ... There's also a wonderful terrace that's open during the warm months. A sister property, MaMaison Residences Izabella, is nearby and has 38 self-catering apartments; since the Hotel Andrássy has no gym, guests can use the facilities there."
11. "Mamaison Residence Sulekova Bratislava". Frommer's. Archived from the original on 2025-01-26. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Mamaison Residence Sulekova is situated in a quiet residential district of Bratislava. It offers stylish, air-conditioned apartments, free WiFi and castle views. Studios and apartments feature contemporary furniture and wooden floors. Fully-equipped kitchens come with a coffee maker and dining furniture."
12. "Mamaison Hotel Le Regina Warsaw". Frommer's. Archived from the original on 2025-01-16. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "Mamaison Hotel Le Regina Warsaw is a 5-star establishment that offers accommodations a quarter mile from Warsaw’s Old Town. Free Wi-Fi is available in the entire hotel. Mamaison Hotel Le Regina Warsaw is housed in a historic building. All rooms are elegantly furnished and include flat-screen satellite TVs."
13. "Mamaison Residence Diana". Frommer's. Archived from the original on 2025-01-17. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The review notes: "This 4-star property is housed in a beautifully restored 19th-century building, only 220 yards from Warsaw's popular Nowy Świat Street. It offers luxurious suites with free internet and DVD player. Mamaison Residence Diana offers stylishly furnished rooms with a full kitchen area, a living room and a work space."
14. Kiesnoski, Kenneth (2008-07-08). "MaMaison brings homegrown luxury to New Europe". Travel Weekly. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29.
  The article notes: "A boutique hotel property is ideally a chic home away from home, and so, true to its name, MaMaison Hotels & Apartments hopes to bring homegrown know-how to operating high-end hideaways in Central and Eastern Europe. MaMaison is a division of Luxembourg-based real estate and hospitality developer Orco Property Group, focusing on "New Europe." ... MaMaison has taken pains to make its properties relevant to the cities they serve. In Warsaw, the Hotel Le Regina (see Room Key) is housed in a reconstructed 17th century palace in the Unesco-protected Old Town that once served as the U.S. Embassy. The Andrassy Hotel in Budapest, meanwhile, occupies a 1937 Bauhaus structure designed and built by Alfred Hajos, an architect and native of Hungary who also won two gold medals for swimming at the first modern Olympic Games in 1896."
15. "Hotel Check: MaMaison Andrássy Hotel, Budapest". Travel Weekly Australia. No. 107. 2009-03-13. p. 30. ISSN 1833-5179. EBSCOhost 43564273.
  The review notes: "Located on Andrássy Avenue, which is likened to Paris's Champs Ëlysées, this only-just fíve-star hotel has been recently refurbished, features 63 rooms and seven suites and is Hungary's only member of the Small Luxury Hotels of the World brand. It's location requires a short foray by public transport in order to reach the centre, or a 20 minute stroll past some wonderful sites. ... There are more romantic, authentic hotels in Budapest, which also offer a greater range of facilities. However, given the Andrássy's price point, its level of service and high degree of comfort in the room, it's a very good proposition."
16. Anderson, Robert (2004-03-05). "Orco builds on its Czech roots: Following its listing in 2000 and initial success in Prague, group plans rapid growth in central Europe with mid-market dwellings and new office projects". Financial Times. ProQuest 249526071.
  The article notes: "Typically Orco uses its extended stay hotel brand MaMaison Residences to grab its first foothold in new markets, before moving into office and residential development. ... In hotels, its Orco Hotel Collection boutique chain and MaMaison Residences operate in Budapest and Prague. This year an Orco Hotel Collection will open in Warsaw and MaMaisons in Bratislava and Bucharest. The group plans to expand the MaMaison idea to Moscow, Kiev, Belgrade and Sofia to follow foreign investors as they start to open up new markets in the Balkans and the former Soviet Union. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development backed this concept last year by committing Euros 10m for a 35 per cent stake in MaMaison."
17. Oswald, Stephanie (2008-08-10). "Pokrovka treats biz travelers to luxury". The Charlotte Observer. Archived from the original on 2025-06-29. Retrieved 2025-06-29 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "With just 84 rooms in all, The Pokrovka Hotel is a MaMaison boutique property that sits walking distance from Red Square, subway access and plenty of shopping; plus, anything else you desire is simply a concierge call away. Other impressive highlights of MaMaison's latest creation: Each level of the seven-floor Pokrovka features a fabulous, huge, black-and-white signature photo mural—follow closely and you'll see a storyline."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Mamaison Hotels & Residences to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 08:10, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 08:10, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to ORCO or CPI Property Group: Cunard found many sources that include the word "Mamaison" but most of them are not talking about the organization itself. They talk about the buildings that predate the organization (sources: 1, 4, 8, 10) or they are short reviews of the hotel without commenting on the organization (2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17). This leaves us with #6 and #16 as the only two sources that are useful, and 16 already lends itself well to merging to Orco. Moritoriko (talk) 06:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This argument makes no sense to me. Mamaison is a chain of hotels and "residences". I would expect the article to discuss the hotel business. Sure, the corporate management structure is relevant but it seems very odd to say that only coverage about the corporate "organization" is relevant. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I based my original vote only on the excerpts that Cunard posted instead of looking into the sources in proper depth. And they are worse than I assumed the first time around. The first 5 are all from The Daily Telegraph so they count as one source. Two are from The Michelin Guide which are much better, but not what I would necessarily describe as in-depth. Next is Fodor's Expert reviews, the brand has a reliable pedigree but this is practically just a pros and cons list. I can't count this as a source for notability. Then we have 5 sources from Frommer's, another reliable guidebook company but author credit for 3 of them is listed as booking.com which leads me to think its not actually an independent source. The two credited authors are faceless and detail-less so harder to say.

On the other hand we have #16 which talks in detail about ORCO and mentions Mamaison as a part of it. #14 which I neglected to categorize before is actually the best source by far but it still talks about the brand as a part of ORCO. This is why I voted for a merge to ORCO, its definitely not a delete, just feels like a part that organization. Moritoriko (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to ORCO per Moritoriko. The sources listed above are mostly about the buildings, not the organization, see WP:ORG#Significant_coverage_of_the_company_itself. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 08:33, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep but give a stern warning to all the single-purpose accounts making edits to the article to PLEASE STOP. Cunard has provided more than sufficient coverage to establish notability per WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Now please allow other editors without a conflict of interest to fix the article. Promotional content is not allowed on Wikipedia per WP:NOTADVERT and cutting and pasting text from other websites is generally not allowed per WP:COPYVIO. Please also read about conflicts of interest at WP:COI. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noting here I've blocked Cpihotelscz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and moved the article back to Mamaison Hotels & Residences. The article is semi'ed for one week to allow this discussion to reach consensus. Star Mississippi 13:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to ORCO as per WP:ATD. Most of Cunard's sources provide almost no information about the actual company (as opposed to some of its assets like individual hotels) HighKing⁺⁺ 17:44, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I agree with Cielquiparle and consider there to be enough coverage about the hotel business through reviews of the hotels to establish notability under Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. The sources show the Mamaison hotel brand is notable.
Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Local units of larger organizations says, "Aim for one good article, not multiple permanent stubs: Individual chapters, divisions, departments, and other sub-units of notable organizations are only rarely notable enough to warrant a separate article. Information on chapters and affiliates should normally be merged into the article about the parent organization." As the individual hotels may not be notable enough to warrant a separate article, the guideline recommends discussing them in an article about the parent organization. ORCO is a large real estate company with many holdings, so to avoid undue weight issues, it would be preferable to keep Mamaison Hotels & Residences as a standalone article discussing the hotels under the brand. Cunard (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that the individual hotels are not notable for Wikipedia articles at this point. I see your point about undue weight in the ORCO article as well. As there is some coverage (see 14 and 16 you found), I am not opposed to keeping. Moritoriko (talk) 23:46, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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