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Panama

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Policy/guideline based contributions overwhelmingly indicate lacking in notability. Goldsztajn (talk) 02:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Air Panamá Flight 982

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Air Panamá Flight 982 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources provided do not establish notability per WP:NEVENT. Perhaps because all persons on aircraft survived (after it drove off the runway). Aircraft driving off runways (after landing) are sort of common, and if there are no deaths, not sure this will ever get much coverage from independent sources. Granted, the crash was recent, and perhaps more coverage will arise in the coming weeks or months. See also essay WP:Too soon. Noleander (talk) 15:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok i think i fixed it Grffffff (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Grffffff - If you think the article meets the WP:Notability requirements, you should write a paragraph here explaining how it was a signficant event, and describe some sources that discuss the event in some detail.
The line between notable and not notable is not black and white. It can take awhile to get the gist of it; in general: it requires a few sources to talk about the subject IN DEPTH, not merely reporting on it as a minor, passing news event. Also, ask: will people still be taking about the event a few years in the future?
Also: there was a similar deletion proposal here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frontier Airlines Flight 3506 ... I cannot see that article now, but did you create that also? If so, it may be wise to become more familiar with the following policies: WP:GNG, WP:NEVENT, WP:NOTNEWS and the essay WP:COOKIE. Noleander (talk) 18:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This should be on Wikipedia for the following reasons: it included in the aircraft getting written off. Grffffff (talk) 18:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it’s also somewhat notable Grffffff (talk) 18:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Noleander Grffffff (talk) 18:09, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’m gonna see if I can use Google translate to share some information these news stories reported. Grffffff (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Google translated from one of the sources: “A video circulated on social networks of the moment when the aircraft arrived at the airport for landing before the accident, where it was also possible to verify the adverse weather conditions, with heavy rain.” keep in mind heavy rain. Grffffff (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article should not be deleted as it notes an incident that doesn’t occur daily. It involved the loss of the aircraft as well. Grffffff (talk) 18:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Similar to Air Busan aircraft that burned down. Grffffff (talk) 18:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also @Noleanderjust saw it said 12 were injured. https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/avion-sale-pista-isla-colon_1_2189930.amp.html Grffffff (talk) 18:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
dude. Tons of aircraft get written off and don't warrant articles. I think the person up there put it best: will people still talk about this in years? Comparing this to the Tenerife disaster is an extreme and inaccurate comparison. Did 500+ people die here? Also, I understand you're just being defensive here. You wrote the article, wanting to contribute, and now it's at risk of being deleted, and you're freaking out. I have had articles removed. It sucks but I understand notability requirements and at this stage it does not warrant an article. Relton66 (talk) 19:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. I think it has the potential to stay but the quality is very bad. If the article is improved, I would say keep. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 19:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree on this. This incident is notable enough to warrant an article but would have to be almost completely rewritten due to poor quality. IDKUggaBanga (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help Grffffff (talk) 15:34, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. not major accident. 122.147.252.162 (talk) 02:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That makes zero sense. Can you explain how? cause I feel like that shouldn't be counted as a vote. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 05:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Like you no shit. The aircraft was destroyed and people were injured. I think the Tenerife Airport disaster was not a major accident Grffffff (talk) 15:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Grffffff: Please stay civil. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disruption. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 11:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
can you not cuss? think about the children you affect 173.245.254.74 (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
if you don't stop cussing we are going to have this talk again 173.245.254.74 (talk) 17:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
every body survived keep 173.245.254.74 (talk) 17:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
bruh 173.245.254.74 (talk) 17:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I do not understand the argument that Air Panama being a small airline does not mean this is not notable. Since it was a hull loss with injuries it clearly is notable enough to have an article. There are similar accidents with little to no injuries and a hull loss that have articles and no one argues they are not notable enough. In conclusion, due to it being a hull loss and passing certain baselines (like the aircraft carrying more than 10 passengers) it should have an article
PS I'm writing this on mobile for the first time, apologies for some visual errors Private User Edgeworth (talk) 06:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • DeleteShows no notability, small airline, small accident, 12 injuries on a flight does not automatically determine notability, same thing with fatalities on a flight, just because someone was injured or died does not mean that that it is automatically notable. WP:NOTNEWS
    (extra note: apologies for any formatting issues as this is my first time using mobile to edit) Lolzer3000 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 8:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Leaning towards delete if not neutral. This article CAN be fixed, but it isn't what I'd call stable. It's not a major event, and thus breaches WP:NOTNEWS. Possibly draftify? Nevermind, don't think this shit neeeds a draft. All or nothing. Scanning the article again, WP:TOOSOON likely applies. Not every. fucking. airplan crash. needs. an article.☩ (Babysharkboss2) 17:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disruption. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 11:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
im trying to NOT have a conflict today plus im telling if you dont stop cussing 173.245.254.74 (talk) 17:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What? ☩ (Babysharkboss2) 17:55, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
you know what? forget it lets just keep to the crash topic fot the fact that you cussed out 173.245.254.74 (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are the only one being disruptive by being offended by my and other users cursin'. ☩ (Babysharkboss2) 18:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i do not want to get in a conflict 173.245.254.74 (talk) 18:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
im just trying to keep this conversation calm and civil 173.245.254.74 (talk) 19:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
runway overruns are relatively common. Does every write off of a Tupolev Tu-154, for example, warrant a page? Relton66 (talk) 04:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed 158.140.182.100 (talk) 04:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disruption. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 11:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
the Republic of Karelia, I don't know what to say about this discussion. IndoMaja (talk) 09:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment this is quite unique that in a discussion having a continuous disruptive editing, Relton66 you are personally attacking by generalizing all the keep voters? It would be very helpful to be WP:CIVILITY and not go WP:NOPA that too towards an entire side of the discussion. By the way, what do you mean by using actual children? As an insult remark? Does that mean others are fake or AI? If actual children refers to actual little babies, I am sure they are watching Cocomelon or playing rather than making edits here to be a veteran-diaper-editors of Wikipedia. Aren't we all children as well in many ways? My fellow editor, we are just trying to do our bid here to make knowledge shared for everyone. We should not be tempted to pass remarks or generalize everyone.

What has this "discussion" devolved into? At this point it's clear the only people voting to keep are actual children who think every mishap deserves mainstream attention - by Relton66

. No disrespect should be intended, just edits and love. Happy editing! Irien1291S • spreading wiki love ~HM19 Message here; no calls 19:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I only said that because of the immature behavior of a lot of keep voters, comparing this accident to one with 500+ fatalities to justify keeping it and frequent use of vulgar language. I don't think anyone is offended other than those acting like children. And did you see the guy above me? Keep because "Because I like planes" "We will never know why it crashed if we delete" "I like it". Tell me that doesn't suggest the writer is under 18. Relton66 (talk) 21:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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