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Kalyn Free

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Redirect to 2004 United States House of Representatives elections in Oklahoma. This article fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. This person is a former congressional candidate and former district attorney. The election itself was particularly unnoteworthy and has had no lasting signficance. Local politicians are not automatically notable, nor are they not automatically not notable. Reasons a local politician could be notable are longevity in service (Robert L. Butler, Margaret Doud, or Hilmar Moore) or misconduct (Betty Loren-Maltese or Rita Crundwell) or being a local politician who happens to be famous for another reason (Brandon Bochenski as Mayor of Grand Forks or Kane as the county executive for Knox County.

While the article mentions she is the first woman and first Native American to be a district attorney for two specific counties. Johnston Murray served as a Governor decades prior. Alice Robertson, Bessie S. McColgin, and Lamar Looney all held office in the 1920s. She was predated by a number of female local politicians as well. This assumes it is true. While I do not believe Kalyn Free would lie, the citation for the first is self-published and I have found nothing at NewsBank to serve as a nonprimary source. She could be mistaken.

In an effort to see if Free's legal career meets GNG, I reviewed the informal list provided by User:Bearian and have found nothing to establish GNG is met here. She was the President of the Native American Bar Association in 1998. Given their more recent 990s on ProPublica's website, I'm not sure that is notable enough to move her towards meeting GNG. This article has been marked with issues since May 2017. It's time to make a decision. Mpen320 (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, Ethnic groups, Law, and Oklahoma. Skynxnex (talk) 17:39, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:BASIC but remove issues (even to a stub). I think there is enough sources from reputable organisations including this pub by the University of Oklahoma Press (already in the article) to demonstrate notability. Tamsier (talk) 23:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Follow up. Is this the entirety of the mention of her in the Voices from the Heartland: Volume II citation? It's a single paragraph in a 250-page book. I do see her name is mentioned on another page in the book, but that search does not allow me to preview beyond two lines of page 69.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That, in addition to the other sources cited is sufficient to confirm notability in accordance with our notability guidelines. It is not a one line mention as per the spirit of our guideline. We don't necessarily need a whole page dedicated to them for notability. That's why I say perhaps remove the issues and reduce to stub if necessary using the already reliable sources cited. In my opinion, that's the best way to go, but as far as notability, there are sufficient sources confirming notability, and at the very least, passed the BASIC test. Tamsier (talk) 17:08, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've been editing for fourteen years. I'm familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines and I do not believe she meets WP:BASIC based on being included as one of dozens of subjects in a book, even if that book was published by a university press. I belive I make my point why the rest of the coverage is either run of the mill or does not contribute to GNG and I'll just let the AfD play out.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:28, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. She is mentioned in the news pretty regularly. Yuchitown (talk) 02:10, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Burchart

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Non-notable pitcher. No sources beyond databases and obituaries. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 14:50, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Clearly notable as an MLB pitcher with nearly 30 games and, as every modern MLB player, plenty of coverage -- e.g. this (p2), this and this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per BeanieFan11. This is why WP:NBASE was helpful. So we didn't have to have these endless debates about everyone ever. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:59, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I guess I know who to take to GA next. Nom should do a bit more research before nominating. I found a large number of sources without even having to look all that hard. Wizardman 22:32, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per BeanieFan11's sources. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Try WP:BEFORE next time. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep, No sources beyond databases and obituaries. the man appears to be alive. Did you nominate a different article than the one you were intending to? Star Mississippi 17:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all the above. It could really do with someone adding some of the sourcing to the article though. Snow time? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:30, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of tornado-related deaths at schools

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Fails WP:NLIST, as much as I love tornado-related lists. E_F⁵ 21:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:56, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per NLIST and WP:SALAT for being too specific. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was thinking ever since the new article came out that this one was weirdly written and now is redundant. Merge to List of schools struck by tornadoes, which covers an overlapping and broader topic and doesn't have an exceptionally WP:SYNTH-y section of original analysis. Departure– (talk) 15:16, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't even say that list meets WP:NLIST, but that'd be for another discussion. — E_F⁵ 16:16, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:NLIST, although I wouldn't be opposed to a merge as Departure suggested, it's an overlapping topic and it might have been better for List of schools struck by tornadoes anyway. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 20:26, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per its falling short of WP:NLIST. A proper merge or redirect article could be a good summary for this discussion too. Unicorbia (talk) 14:07, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Effects of white settler contact on the Pawnee tribe

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Appears to be entirely redundant with the history section of Pawnee people, but much less thorough and encyclopedic. Reads suspiciously like a homework assignment too (see the comment by the article's creator at the talk page).

If we want a standalone article on the post-1800 cultural development of the Pawnee Tribe, and it's not clear that we do, we'd be better off just moving the relevant sections of Pawnee people into one. Jbt89 (talk) 22:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve - Not a "homework assignment", but similar. See the editor's page User:Aberg555. Part of Category:Wiki Education student editors. We get "This user is a student editor" all the time. I think it's part of university curricula. — Maile (talk) 00:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article could definitely be improved, but not seeing a clear reason to delete. There are plenty of sources available. Per WP:PRESERVE it would be better to tag this article to draw attention rather than deleting.

Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 01:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:04, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
merge: relevant content to the Pawnee article. Frankly, you could replace "Pawnee" with the name of any other tribe and get a similar article. They all engaged in contact with the Europeans that had similar effects on them, this isn't a unique story. Oaktree b (talk) 15:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This was written by a student in 2019. They've likely long since graduated and are no longer active on Wikipedia, I don't see the harm in deleting this now, this isn't a current assignment. Oaktree b (talk) 15:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning keep but not opposed to Merge to Pawnee people as long as this doesn't end up an anarthrous nominal premodifier or "pseudo title".. I seem to have a problem finding sources with similar naming. There is the beginning of some important content.

The "Loss of Life" section discusses the smallpox outbreak of 1852. Pawnee people states, "In the early 18th century the Pawnee numbered more than 60,000 people", and "They had suffered many losses due to Eurasian infectious diseases brought by the expanding Europeans and European-Americans." The cholera outbreak of the 1850's killed up to 25% of the Pawnee. One source states that combined diseases may have contributed to between 5-6000 deaths. There is evidence there were outbreaks from 1832.Native Voices states there was an outbreak between "1836–40" that killed 10,000 among the Siksika, Kainai Nation, Chaticks Si Chaticks (Pawnee people), Nakoda (Assiniboine), Numakiki (Mandan), Sahnish (Arikara), and Dakota people, among others. Per Oaktree b we could replace "Pawnee" with the name of about "every" tribe, so a good reason to merge also per Jbt89 -- Otr500 (talk) 02:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per above. Bearian (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the material could also be merged, but the whole point of NOT merging is when the material is sufficiently notable or if the core article would be so lengthy that it makes sense for a SPLIT. This would likely be the case with a merge, so I support keeping this as it is now and not looking for creating a problem where there is none. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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