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Krithika Nelson

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Bringing this here for a full discussion as the last AfD was lightly attended. I still do not see sufficient sourcing to indicate creative nor business notability. Star Mississippi 13:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: We still only have passing mentions.. Again, Same as last time in October, nothing has changed since then. The award might be notable, but we'd need much more sourcing than what's given now. I can't find anything extra that wasn't there in October. as stated in the last AfDs. Oaktree b (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I did a WP:BEFORE and found nothing, I believe that if there is coverage, it is in Tamil. Svartner (talk) 21:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guntram Weissenberger

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Single-source biography of a deceased Austrian-American architect that does not pass WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Source is an article in an obituary in an Austrian newspaper. A search for his name only turns up reporting that an individual, presumably his son, had invested in the Phillies. I could find no reviews or other indications his autobiography has sufficient notability to generate an article. nf utvol (talk) 13:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Surjasikha Das

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The subject fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. After conducting a thorough BEFORE search, I was able to find reliable, secondary and independent references to the subject which includes trivial information or routine coverage that doesn't meet the threshold criteria for general notability guidelines or demonstrate significant coverage. The article was created on 21st July 2025, which appears to be a fairly new. She has had some supporting roles in notable movie and TV shows i.e Maa (2025 film) and Bade Achhe Lagte Hain 3 respectively. So, as per alternatives to deletion draftify will be applied here for further improvement. Fade258 (talk) 14:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Shyam Kishor Awasthi Ji

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Non-notable Indian politician who clearly fails WP:GNG, and WP:NPOL. Taabii (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He may have received some local coverage as a party coordinator, but fails in WP:NPOL. Svartner (talk) 21:52, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Darrell Grams

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Prod removed without rationale or improvement. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Nothing notable, this might be about him [1] briefly touching on the Ford lawsuit. Still a long way from notability. This reads like a resume instead of an article about a notable person. Oaktree b (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: "This article is associated with the extended Louton, Hughes, Oster, Rettinger, Ernst and Grams family involved in ministry, business and academia." Seems to be some attempt at creating a walled garden here. Oaktree b (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Concur with Onel. Filled to the brim with original research, unreliable sources... it looks like a resume or family ancestry entry. A successful but non-notable (by our threshold) lawyer with no widespread coverage in independent secondary sources. GuardianH 12:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sarjin Kumar

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There is little coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources under the name “Sarjin Kumar.” Most info comes from social media or entertainment sites, which doesn’t sufficiently establish encyclopedic significance. The BO77! (talk) 19:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @The BO77! I think the page i have created needs more citation and can be improved. But placing a deletion tag maybe avoided and you can ask for improvement. Thanks! Gooi-007 (talk) 19:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay! @Gooi-007 but don’t need to remove the deletion tag yourself an admin will close the discussion as “Withdrawn” and remove the tag once processed.The BO77! (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn – I now believe this article may be improved. Thanks. The BO77! (talk) 20:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your consideration @The BO77! Gooi-007 (talk) 20:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note to Closer. Though nominator has withdrawn the AFD nomination, I would prefer this AFD review to continue. My reason behind this is, the page was created by an editor, 15 days old, who moved the draft to mainspace without letting it go through AFC review. I reviewed the page after looking at this AFD and found the subject to fail WP:GNG. The sources are poor to unreliable. Source Analysis.
- Source 1 is unreliable and very likely you will invite malware by clicking on this page.
- Source 2 by TOI has passing mention.
- Source 3 is unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES.
- Source 4 is unreliable personal site/blog.
- Source 5 is about YouTuber dressed as a woman.
- Source 6 is just passing mention.
- Source 7 and 8 are also passing mention.
- Source 9 is unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES. RangersRus (talk) 23:38, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per my analysis above. RangersRus (talk) 23:40, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: My source analysis given below

No.	Source	Type	Independent	Reliable	Significant Coverage	Notes
1	Filmibeat – "Who is Sarjin Kumar?"	Entertainment listing	✅ Yes	❌ No	❌ No	Low-quality site per WP:ALMGS; routine coverage; no depth.
2	ABP Nadu (Tamil)	Regional news	✅ Yes	❌ No (Brandwire-tier)	❌ No	Trivial mention of entry to a reality show; no biographical depth.
3	Mirchi9 (hypothetical)	Entertainment blog	✅ Yes	❌ No	❌ No	Unverified; generally unreliable for establishing notability.
4	Social media mentions (Instagram, YouTube)	Self-published	❌ No	❌ No	❌ No	Fails WP:RS and WP:SELFPUB; unusable for notability.
5	TV appearance on Cooku with Comali 6	Primary source (TV show)	❌ No	❌ No	❌ No	Being part of a TV show cast is not sufficient for notability without secondary coverage.

All sources fail to provide the in-depth, independent, and reliable coverage required under WP:GNG.Thilsebatti (talk) 03:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Clearly fails WP:NACTOR even WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 09:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I concur with other !voters here, that although the AFD nom was withdrawn by the nominator, there is no indication that this person meets notability criteria per WP:GNG, nor are a notable photographer, thus failing to meet WP:NARTIST, nor is there evidence that there is the kind of significant coverage in fully independent reliable sources covering his acting career to meet WP:NACTOR. Deleting it at this time would save community time, because it would just be renominated if the withdrawal was put into effect. Netherzone (talk) 15:16, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Desembra

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Subject does not appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Notability not inherited from collaborating with notable artists. None of the sources in the article provide him with WP:SIGCOV, and I'm also uncertain if all are reliable anyways as some are self-published. I searched manually through Swedish newspapers (they are not usually indexed in Google) and found zero mentions. I also wasn't able to find any additional sources in g-news, newspapers.com, or PressReader. Zzz plant (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ivana Arruda Leite

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There is no reliable sources besides on two references from Editoria and barco art which is unreliable. Although, I find this from Gazeta and I think this is trivial mention only. Failed to demonstrate on WP:GNG, WP:BLP, and WP:AUTHOR. ROY is WAR Talk! 07:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: The subject is mentioned in several Google Books, and the authority databases (WP:VIAF) also show quite a few positive indicators. Baqi:) (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't speak Portuguese which makes it difficult to find sources here, but purely by searching Google Scholar there are dozens of pieces about her work, including reviews of her books and journal articles with analysis of her work: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]. There are probably more reviews of her books to be found in newspapers if I knew where to look. Seems to be a very notable writer and passes WP:NCREATIVE criteria 3. MCE89 (talk) 13:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maud Maron

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Outside of unsuccessful campaigns for office (WP:POLOUTCOMES), the sources are only brief mentions, not really going in-depth about the individual, with some not even mentioning the subject that I could find. She has been involved in various organizations but still, no significant coverage. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like reasonably significant coverage to me, as does this (a campaign gets mentioned, but just briefly; it's not candidate coverage.) Both are NY Daily News, so they only count as one source, but still an indicator. Also, about different events, so it's not a WP:BLP1E matter. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may have accidentally linked the same source twice Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and I was fixing that while you were noting it! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep (might even be WP:SNOW) - I'd say the combined coverage easily passes WP:GNG at this point. WP:NPOL points out that being an unelected candidate doesn't automatically guarantee notability, I'd say between the two unsuccessful ones and announced third and all the other coverage on her political or anti-trans views easily passes the hurdle.

I pulled up some of the 2024+ sources cited and this A Culture-War Battle Convulses a School Panel in Liberal Manhattan - The New York Times article centered on her is very much in depth coverage on her (mentioning her 24 times throughout the article). The article In Private Texts, NY Ed Council Reps, Congressional Candidate Demean LGBTQ Kids – The 74 is another pretty deep coverage with 34 mentions. NYC elected officials, teachers protest at right wing Moms for Liberty event and National debate over transgender athletes comes to New York City - POLITICO & Moms for Liberty's NYC event may have attracted more protesters than guests - Chalkbeat is also centered on the discourse around her.

Also while I was looking at sources, I came across a whole other scandal from 2024 that isn't even mentioned in the article, but likely should - apparently she was removed from her position, following an investigation by the New York Education Department in June 2024 (NYC Removes Two Parents From Local School Boards Over Behavior - The New York Times & NYC Ed Dept. Orders Parent Leader to Cease ‘Derogatory,’ ‘Offensive’ Conduct or Face Removal – The 74) and subsequently a judge re-instated her Citing Free Speech Violations, Judge Reinstates NYC Parent to Ed. Council – The 74 - the article currently only mentions her removal due to WP:PIA comments, but it looks like it was actually based on both PIA, as well as transphobic comments made, so we should add those sources and ammend the article.

So I'd say overall, just from the few above that would likely already be enough for GNG, combine that with her prior failed runs for political office, the stint in the school district, and now another run puts her into perennial candidate territory and we can probably add her to the List of perennial candidates in the United States as well. Raladic (talk) 00:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I shouldn't !vote, because we have mutual connections, but I feel obligated to say that she has gotten a lot of free press, in part due to being a perennial candidate. Bearian (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't see anything that's not local campaign coverage. While some perennial candidates are eligible for articles, I don't see that shows she's made any lasting impact as a failed candidate in any of the sources. Sources above aren't helpful either as they enter into the routine - any headline which describes someone as "A Manhattan parent" necessarily implies the person the article is written about isn't known to the public by their name. SportingFlyer T·C 23:54, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you miss the transphobia/hate-speech council removal and federal judge reinstatement of her on free-speech grounds case I referenced above, and her related involvement with a SPLC tracked extremist hate-group and their events? I just found a couple more sources on that: Ousted NYC school board member seeks job back as controversial regulation faces legal challenge, Federal judge reinstates ousted NYC school board member Maud Maron, cites free speech, NYC school board members with ties to right-wing Moms for Liberty ousted in local election? The countless WP:RSP's coverage of this, which has nothing to do with her failed or ongoing political candidacies, is more WP:SIGCOV than we have for many articles and easily passes WP:NBASIC, ignoring the several political candidacies coverages, is easily enough to justify the article.

I think the current presentation of the article has some weight issues as it currently looks primarily (especially the lead) focused on her failed/ongoing political candidacies, and the section on the other coverage is missing a lot of the content (including most of the sources I listed in the AfD here) that should be added.

You called out that some of the headlines don't say her name (some do, but most reference her role as a school board member as that's more head-liney), but keep in mind that WP:HEADLINES calls out that we don't pay much attention to them and source our articles from the body of the sources. Raladic (talk) 01:58, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a school board in America is a political entity and that's pretty clearly all local political coverage to me. SportingFlyer T·C 12:27, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Strong coverage that isn't just local campaign coverage; things like this New York Times piece have just a passing mention of her history as a candidate, and are not done in the heart of a campaign, while this Daily News piece doesn't mention any candidacy. The idea that a headline has to mention the subject by name in order to indicate their notability is at odds with our standards on both headlines and notability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tasleem Ahmed Sabri

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Article Tasleem Ahmed Sabri fails to demonstrate significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources, as required under the general notability guideline WP:GNG. References cited are either primary sources (e.g. his own TV programs, ARY Qtv) or a self published Hamariweb profile which is also not reliable reference.

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Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG even WP:THREE. Baqi:) (talk) 11:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gen Z stare

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Extremely new social phenomena that has no peer reviewed studies (social sciences) Zedd1997 (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It's new and perhaps there isn't much formal scholarship, but that's not how we determine notability. There's abundant notice in reliable sources, and it passes WP:GNG. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Continuing from what I said above, I hope that whoever closes this will weigh policy-based arguments over arguments that simply disagree with what the sources say. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Articles on social phenomenons aren't deleted on the basis that there's no peer reviewed studies on the topics. See Millennial pause and articles listed in Category:TikTok trends for example. Some1 (talk) 12:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This topic has been significantly covered in multiple independent and reliable sources and therefore passes WP:GNG. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These are just columns and columnists love jumping on a trend. It's not like they're peer reviewed or even journalistic reports. Xennial ambassador (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I echo your sentiments. I think it’s risky to give validity to a subject based on throwaway popcorn online articles. I have yet to read any article that features an opinion from an authoritative source. Most articles available on this subject are just quoting anecdotes from users on TikTok. Wikipedia is being bloated by stuff like this. A so called ‘reliable’ source can write anything, if The Times wrote a column tomorrow stating the sky is green without any corroboration from experts is it still really a reliable source? Zedd1997 (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Remove This article has much to say about what the so-called "Gen z stare" indicates about the generation, but has very little evidence it exists in the first place. It would be better placed within the mass psychogenic illness article. Xennial ambassador (talk) 15:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC) — Xennial ambassador (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

(EC) On the contrary. All the sources are news reports from news organizations with a reputation for fact checking and journalistic integrity. Each of these sources, of which there are ten in the Wikipedia article, fit the description for an independent and reliable source on Wikipedia. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, regarding "an authoritative source" - experts are noted to have commented on this phenomenon in this Wikipedia article. And reliable sources in the Wikipedia world are authoritative on the subject each of them covers. Furthermore, saying that these sources are just quoting Tik Tok users is a mischaracterization of the sources, as well as quite the exaggeration. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 15:57, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Is there any serious coverage of this that predates the July 14 NY Times article? Thriley (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Media coverage shows it to be a topic. Later on, if media coverage dries up, it can be merged into staring. You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, and you don't need peer-reviewed scholarship to know that a topic is part of the zeitgeist. By analogy, Wikipedia had an article on Joe the Plumber long before any peer-reviewed scholarship on the topic (if there ever was any). —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I want to link to this comment on a user talk page, because it indicates that multiple new sources have very recently been published: [9]. I think that further strengthens the case that GNG has been met. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Remove I agree with Xennial ambassador, there seems to be lots of overanalyzing the meaning behind the “Gen Z stare,” perpetuating yet another unnecessarily negative generational divide. There are people from ALL generations that can both give and disapprove of such a stare. Do we really need to add fuel to this buzzwordy trend by having a Wikipedia article about it already? Just let it take shape first. And again, it entirely fails to prove that this behavior actually exists in any meaningful or measurable way. This is speculative and relies on assumptions and stereotypes. Let's eat grandma (talk) 04:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC) — Let's eat grandma (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Remove I’m not sure any of this page is factual information, “sources” cited are almost entirely fluff articles from news sources or someone quoting a TikTok user. On top of that, there are conclusions drawn multiple times that have no factual basis. I’m not sure that 80%+ of this article should remain published 2603:3024:2102:C500:7C49:2A3A:3F11:E03E (talk) 18:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agree with above that the article passes GNG because of copious media coverage. Whether its a "real thing" or what the "implications" are, it's something that people have identified as existing and reported on in reputable sources. Additionally, the article is valuable to people googling the term this week (which is how I found it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audiodude (talk • contribs) 21:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rishabh Kashyap

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Non notable singer, fails wp:NMUSIC, No SIGCOV, just routine coverage. Created by a sock. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: While the article does say he is an Indian actor and singer, the article (such as it is) is more about his acting career and does not bring up his singing any further, so NACTOR would be more relevant here. I have no opinion or comment beyond that, though. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Deanne Panday

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WP:RUNOFTHEMILL fitness trainer with no significant achievements and no WP:SIGCOV. Sources are mostly, passing mentions, routine coverage, interviews and gossips around her notable relatives. The article was created by a blocked SPA. Zuck28 (talk) 12:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong keep: As I stated in the previous nomination, the subject clearly meets the requirements of WP:GNG by receiving significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. Notable examples include a detailed articles in DNA (300+ words), an article by Time of India (350+ words), Business Standard, NDTV, Hindustan Times, and MidDay, among others. These are independent, reliable secondary sources that provide substantial detail about her career, publications, and public influence, not mere name-drops or trivial mentions. As WP:GNG states: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. In this case, multiple substantial articles from mainstream publications combine to satisfy the notability criteria. Therefore, the subject meets both WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. GSS ^💬 14:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can’t see your comment on the previous nomination. Did you participate in the last AFD?

This DNA article you mentioned is non-bylined promotional article to advertise her personal training service.

The Times of India article is also clearly advertorial piece with a disclaimer "Disclaimer: This article was produced on behalf of Life Health Foods by Times Internet’s Spotlight team."

Business standard article is a book review without the name of the reviewer, clear promotion.

NDTV article is more focused on the Book and Salman Khan, not the subject of the article.

The Hindustan Times article is about the opinions of multiple people, and she got trivial coverage, fails Wp:SIGCOV.

midday article is just a photo gallery, without any critical assessment of her career.

This proves the article fails wp:GNG and Wp:SIGCOV both. Zuck28 (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; Economic Times, India Today, HT, Indian Express, HT. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under WP:GNG and provide further opportunity to expand the article. GSS ^💬 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would add that the Salman Khan reference is not a counter argument but perhaps the opposite, as it would ultimately demonstrate her importance as celebrities' fitness/well-being coach (as claimed), and thus the importance of keeping the article. Metamentalist (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Metamentalist, Almost every celebrity is associated with some fitness/ wellness coach, according to your understanding does that make all of those coaches notable? Just because they’re associated with celebrities? See Wp:NOTINHERITED. Zuck28 (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She has been associated with more than one, and has produced work in different media (books and DVDs) on the matter, she's not the "average" wellness coach. Metamentalist (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uruzgani (Hazara tribe)

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Fail in GNG, WP:RS and largely dependent on only one source. Sybercracker (talk) 02:42, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – Well, it looks like they exist as a real tribe or subtribe [10], but most uses of the word Uruzgani seem to more broadly refer to people from the Uruzgan region, even if that is also what the subtribe is called. – Ike Lek (talk) 07:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can add more sources? Sybercracker (talk) 20:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can try, but it is proving difficult. It clearly isn't a WP:HOAX, so ideally we find a way to save the page if we can. The only language I speak fluently is English, which is limiting, and the word Uruzgani is also sometimes used to refer to anyone from Uruzgan. Not all Hazara groups in Uruzgan are Uruzgani Hazara, so it really complicates searching. Hopefully we can save the page, but if more sources can't be found, then we might have to delete the page even though it contains good information, because it isn't backed up by more than one RS. Ike Lek (talk) 22:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jinal Jhaveri

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Fails WP:BIO, and I can't find sources to fill in the blanks here. Many of the sources are 404s ([11], [12], [13], etc.) and likely AI generated. Based on editor's previous history, also a likely undisclosed WP:COI. Snowycats (talk) 02:21, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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All the broken links are now fixed Tadbooch (talk) 13:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per highly AI generated and WP:COI. Sybercracker (talk)
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All broken links are fixed and also add reference form other wiki pages Tadbooch (talk) 17:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Btw I don't see any AI generated content but please let me know if you see any thing specific. Tadbooch (talk) 13:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. After doing a cursory search of sources (scrubbing interviews or primary material such as this opinion, there is only about one article so far that somewhat contributes to notability and the mention might be considered trivial in this Spanish version of Entrepreneur [14]. Other than that, very little else outside of the subject's Linkedin page, etc. It could be possible, however, that coverage of the subject is greater in non-English sources (but I haven't found any thus far outside of the one above). GuardianH 09:30, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GuardianH Here are some additional credible sources about this person https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2014/02/03/schoolmint-education-technology-kindergarten-imagine-k12/5163197/

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-09-10-companies-are-bought-not-sold-m-a-advice-from-3-edtech-ceos-who-survived-the-process Tadbooch (talk) 13:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both of these articles are relatively minor coverage of the subject. There needs to be widespread, independent, secondary sources, which this subject so far does not qualify.

An additional note and important note: @Tadbooch, you are prohibited from editing content related to anyone you have an external relationship with. As a single purpose user, you should be cognizant of our Conflict of interest policy (and note that if you have a conflict of interest, you are required to disclose it). Do you have a relationship with Jinal Jhaveri? GuardianH 13:12, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thank you - I don't have a relationship with this person. Tadbooch (talk) 13:16, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found a few reputed sources in case those count https://www.childrenscouncil.org/jinal-jhaveri/https://www.crunchbase.com/person/jinal-jhaveri/person_overview_investor/timeline?__cf_chl_tk=1JfBtobgVJJVNe3DtCRI22hwcsd5KF0ciYnu7xsFN7U-1753103946-1.0.1.1-PijBFsYenIAmKVZaWTMJE44ZKqACUjikqZq8sADmBTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyz3o3GLuY https://www.reachcapital.com/2017/10/30/impact-and-high-growth-create-a-modern-best-in-class-edtech-company-reflecting-on-schoolmints/ https://tracxn.com/d/companies/schoolmint/__Nn0kBkgYsJ0BfnawZ7vRCSYGSAGAM08dH5FATwGqSBI Tadbooch (talk) 13:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all the links Tadbooch (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All the broken links are fixed - especially to all the credible sources like usatoday Tadbooch (talk) 13:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tadbooch You wrote this article using any AI tool? Sybercracker (talk) 20:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sybertcracker - I didn't but english is my 2nd language - please let me know if you want me to correct anything specific Tadbooch (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sybercracker Let me know if there any additional comments or if you think your concerns are resolved. Thank you Tadbooch (talk) 13:03, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Dillehunt

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Poorly sourced article, which is also filled with promotional clutter and unnecessary external links. A WP:BEFORE shows that the subject is somewhat notable, but coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NDIRECTOR. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, CycloneYoris. I am the subject of this article and I disagree that notability fails Wikipedia standards in that regard. I am aware that this article was created nearly 20 years ago. It appears that the citation quality is lacking, but the projects themselves rise to the national and international level which is required in those standards. I would propose that these poor quality citations be corrected instead of article deletion. 64.96.70.108 (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For this article to be kept - you can assist by providing links to where you or your works have achieved WP:SECONDARY coverage. This may include local/regional/national press coverage or critical reviews. ResonantDis_tortion 08:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this clarification. I just overhauled the page to remove the aforementioned promotional clutter and unnecessary external links. Citations have been modified per Wiki guidelines and secondary coverage has been properly linked. Dndlive (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: - I read the NPR review and it's brutal. The Rotten Tomatoes sources are, well, rotten tomatoes. Be careful what you ask for. As I've written before, sometimes it's only the bad reviews that prove notability, while the puff pieces are just the deprecation of media in an age of corporate budget cuts. Again, are you sure that you want notoriety? I mean, really? Bearian (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bearian. I like your comment, it's quite funny. That piece is a brutal but honest review and I appreciate that someone with NPR took the time to assess the film. As an artist, I take the good with the bad. Notoriety remains subjective – but I value the global reach of my projects, whether viewers like them or not. 64.96.70.108 (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would propose to keep this article. The subject is notable and passes WP:BIO and WP:NDIRECTOR. The article has been cleaned up and revised to address the aforementioned issues, including WP:SECONDARY sources. Dndlive (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Just want to note that the user above has an undisclosed conflict of interest with the subject of this article. @Dndlive: what relationship do you have with the subject in question, and is he paying you to edit here? CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CycloneYoris: I don't believe I have a COI with this subject. I'm a fan of his "You Can't Do That on Film" documentary, but I've voluntarily updated the page for years out of respect to the filmmaker. I'm a freelance graphic designer and I'm not receiving any compensation for these updates. I tried to create a page for his rock band as well by sourcing details from the web, but I recognize the band currently fails WP:BAND and WP:MUSICBIO. My apologies for any confusion. Dndlive (talk) 12:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adib Sobhani

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No evidence of notability. Sources appear to be routine coverage, and there isn't much evidence that subject warrants a standalone article. Fails: WP:GNG. Also possible WP:PE. CycloneYoris ^talk! 19:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The existing references in the current article do not provide significant coverage (please see WP:SIGCOV), and the first reference is entirely non-reliable. I don't think the subject passes WP:GNG in any way. Baqi:) (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daria Lodikova

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Tennis player with a highest singles ranking of 296 and doubles of 397. All the sourcing is passing mentions in drawsheets, results pages and articles about other players. At the previous AFD in 2023 this was draftified for better sourcing to be found but that has not happened and I am unable to find anything substantial. I strongly suggest editors read the previous AFD discussion before voting. Fails SIGCOV and should be deleted. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 17:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete If it was TOOSOON in 2023 and now in 2025 she's either 296th or 500 and something... She's not notable. Lack of any sort of sourcing reinforces that fact. Oaktree b (talk) 19:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gsearch only brings up match websites or the WTA. She's 400th something now, if that helps... Very non-notable. Oaktree b (talk) 19:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Made her WTA Tour debut after qualifying for the main draw of the 2025 Iași Open singles main draw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vecihi91 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find anything in my searches that's even close to a significant, independent coverage of the player. While she did qualify for the main draw of Iasi, per WP:NSPORT/FAQ, which WP:NTENNIS is also a part of, says: "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline. They are intended only to stop an article from being quickly deleted when there is very strong reason to believe that significant, independent, non-routine, non-promotional secondary coverage from multiple reliable sources is available, given sufficient time to locate it". No reliable sources cover her or the Iasi result beyond match stats or databases. All of her Futures titles are the lower tiers of W15 to W35, so nothing else from WP:NTENNIS criteria to add to make it a more stronger case. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 13:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Something does not make sense. She's allegedly made hundreds of thousands of dollars to play tennis and came close to the bottom of the barrel? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Bearian (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milind Sovani

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Vanity page, which is mostly filled with promotional content and links to social media sites, and coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. Article would need to be rewritten entirely if kept. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abney317

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. The article lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. All current references are either self-published (Twitch, Twitter), user-generated (YouTube), or directory-style listings (GDQ VODs). No independent media coverage or in-depth reporting has been found to establish notability. Subject appears notable only within a niche community. Leicesteroftime (talk) 00:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some better sources https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/521780-fastest-all-cups-completion-of-mario-kart-64

https://www.techeblog.com/mario-kart-64-skip-speedrun-bowsers-castle/

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/sep/29/play-it-faster-play-it-weirder-how-speedrunning-pushes-video-games-beyond-their-limits

https://kotaku.com/mario-kart-64-speedrunner-sets-new-world-record-by-repe-1846254228 ILoveSmallEdits (talk) 01:28, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The sources ILoveSmallEdits has provided above are better than those currently in the article, but still do not rise to meet WP:GNG. I've been unsuccessful in attempting to find any better sources. Weirdguyz (talk) 01:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Go D. Usopp (talk) 08:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Surayeproject3 (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dekete per nom. JuniperChill (talk) 20:54, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kiran Morjaria

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The article about this person does not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. There is no significant coverage from independent, reliable, secondary sources. Most of the citations are press releases, interviews, or promotional blog-style content. Leicesteroftime (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't see coverage we'd use to show notability [15], is typcial. Oaktree b (talk) 14:19, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can see coverage from independent, reliable sources like Chortle, and numerous articles not cited in national papers. Also significant BBC coverage. 82.3.97.84 (talk) 15:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep given the above 82.3.97.84 (talk) 15:55, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep similar notability to others in similar category, BBC Morning Live Doctor 2A02:8012:8848:0:956B:C9C:EF8E:26DB (talk) 23:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep independent sources - Guardian, The Times, BBC News 139.28.209.78 (talk) 08:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Beattie

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Non-notable individual. A WP:BEFORE shows results about a musician, who is unrelated to the subject in question. Lack of reliable sourcing is also evident. Fails WP:GNG. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Looking into it, all the sources are from organizations he's worked with or spoken for. If he's notable, then I qualify for a Wikipedia article. I don't see any reasonable AtD. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:54, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: YT and linkedin as references? Totally non reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 06:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Local pastor doing good [16], very much non-notable for our purposes. Nothing much different than any other person doing a similar job. Oaktree b (talk) 14:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete completely non-notable. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not a single reliable source for a BLP. While not required, I did some searches online. Trying to find any sources are difficult, because false positives come up, including a videographer from Chicago and a friend of a friend who is an assistant chief of the New York City Department of Sanitation. Bearian (talk) 16:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I spent a few hours researching the subject independently and was unable to find any evidence of notability in the form of reliable source significant coverage. Zach^H007 00:15, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Osyf

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Non-notable individual running for public office. Fails notability metrics in WP:BIO and WP:NPOL. Recreate should he be elected next year. ThisUserIsTaken (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There is coverage [17], but he's a navy sailor running for office, I don't see anything to meet notability. Very routine career. The article now is barely more than a few sentences. Oaktree b (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Mztourist (talk) 02:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Or possibly redirect to an election page. He has zero military notability. Intothat darkness 13:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2026 United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia#District 2 as the expected ATD for a random candidate. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the election page, as per BottleOfChocolateMilk, and a common outcome as an ATD. Bearian (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or maybe just delete. Does not meet WP:NPOLITICS or WP:GNG for that matter. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 20:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Draft: Although yes not a lot of notability, it could be developed over time into a real article, so how about we move the page to draft and then put a Redirect. Fad8229 (talk) 19:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gjert Ingebrigtsen

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Everything in this article about him is already covered at Ingebrigtsen family- which covers their family and coaching history as well as the trial. There is no need therefore for a separate article on Gjert, as the separate article provides no additional useful information, as he's primarily notable for his family and the trial (and not independently notable otherwise). So redirect to Ingebrigtsen family makes sense in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. (1) Has a decade of pre-trial notability. (2) Has independent notability as Coach of the Year [18] (3) Has independent notability as the coach of an athlete outside of his family, not a Sunday stroller but a 2023 World Championships bronze medal winner. (4) Has independent notability as the primary subject of IRS SIGCOV. Most of these aren't included in the article currently, one I remember reading is this (paywalled) Geschichte (talk) 16:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per sources also present in the article and Geschichte analysis. Svartner (talk) 18:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: He has independent notability as a Coach of the Year, and beyond that, the subject has received substantial coverage in various reliable sources. This demonstrates that the subject meets the criteria outlined in WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 09:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yi Shi

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WP:COI or WP:PE, with lots of PR spam sources. Tim (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: sources present in the article are enough to indicate he is notable ([19] [20] [21] at least). Cremastra (talk) 16:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cremastra that last Forbes source was written by a contributor rather than staff so usually not considered RS per WP:FORBESCON. S0091 (talk) 16:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping; you're right. There's this as well though, from the Chinese edition of Fortune (magazine). Cremastra (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cremastra the Chinese edition is a different publisher from Fortune (magazine) so does not have the same editorial oversight. You can see the difference by looking at https://fortune.com/about-us/ vs. https://www.fortunechina.com/first/c/2008-02/21/content_4825.htm. S0091 (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These Forbes lists contain only borderline sigcov. Source 2 is a school interviewing one of its alumni (so not independent) and source 3 is WP:FORBESCON. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - This is just a Gish gallop of trivial or promotional sources; there has also been a history here of using fake/SEO sources by a UDPE. I see Forbes contributor blogs, Entrepreneur contributor blogs, a VentureBeat contributor blog written by our favorite PR/SEO spammer Jon Stojan, user-generated material from LinkedIn, trivial directory listings, stories about the companies that don't mention the person (or mention him trivially), and so on. There are a few interviews, but those are hardly independent when establishing notability. Are there any examples of significant and independent sources? I was not able to locate anything searching externally, but that could be complicated by many others that share the same name, and a lot of self-serving PR that hides real sources. Sam Kuru (talk) 21:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just a disclaimer: I'm an employee at one of his companies and thus have a conflict of interest in this article. However, I’d like to add some independent references to address concerns about notability raised by the deletion rationale:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/shi-yi/

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/sme/sme-interview/story20170921-796955

https://mothership.sg/2018/06/shi-yi-obike-founder/

https://mothership.sg/2018/07/obike-founder-shi-yi-sorry/

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/21/all-in-one-sales-tech-platform-flashintel-raises-10-million/

https://www.fortunechina.com/detail/people/4040/2016/236/shiyi.htm

https://www.fortunechina.com/detail/people/4040/2023/26/shiyi.htm

Ultimately its up to the administrator to decide whether the page should be kept or not and I don't want to comment on his notability. 2601:645:8400:870:C590:2D13:2AA3:6038 (talk) 23:05, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per Kuru's assessment of the sources along with my own. S0091 (talk) 17:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Wong, Kim Hoh (2017-10-01). "It Changed My Life: Health crisis opened oBike founder's eyes to China's potential". The Sunday Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-07. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "However, Mr Shi - who wears nerdy glasses and sports a boyish mop of hair - is anything but an unremarkable, run-of-the-mill millennial. Only 28, he has been on Forbes' list of the 30 most important entrepreneurs under the age of 30 in China since 2014. ... He is the founder of DotC United Group, which has several global business platforms: digital advertising, mobile games, app development as well as an investment fund for mobile start-ups. ... In addition, he founded several other businesses, including local bike-sharing firm oBike, which has a market presence in 11 countries. ... The elder of two sons, he was born in Shanghai in 1989. In the same year, his father, a former translator and interpreter, left for Germany to study German and English literature. He was joined by his wife two years later. Mr Shi was raised by his maternal grandparents until he was 11, when he left Shanghai to be with his parents, who were then running a Chinese restaurant in the town of Neu-Ulm."
2. Huang, Kangwei 黄康玮 (2017-09-21). "选择新加坡"骑"上创业之路" [Choosing Singapore to 'Ride' onto the Road of Entrepreneurship]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2025-07-20. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "其中一名创办人是28岁的石一，他是科技公司Avazu Holding的创办人，三度入选《福布斯》中文版“中国30位30岁以下创业者”名单，也登上2016年《财富》“中国40位40岁以下商界精英”榜单。... 在德国法兰克福大学修读计算机科学的他，读了两年就毅然决定辍学，开始走上创业之路，如今成为身价不菲的企业家，显然是有幸运之神长期眷顾。"
  From Google Translate: "One of the founders is 28-year-old Shi Yi, the founder of technology company Avazu Holding. He has been selected three times by the Chinese version of Forbes as one of the "30 Chinese Entrepreneurs Under 30" and was also listed in the 2016 Fortune "40 Chinese Business Elites Under 40". ... He studied computer science at the University of Frankfurt in Germany, but decided to drop out after two years and start his own business. Now he has become a wealthy entrepreneur, which shows that he has been blessed by the god of luck for a long time."
3. Li, Keda 李柯达; Wu, Yanzi 吴燕子; Xu, Yimin 徐逸敏; Fang, Xu 房旭 (2014-02-27). "群星档案：2014年中国30位30岁以下创业者" [Rising Stars Profile: 30 Under 30 Entrepreneurs in China (2014)]. Forbes China (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2014-03-02. Retrieved 2025-07-20.
  The article notes: "石一2009年在德国建立Avazu Inc，他希望通过大数据，让互联网和移动互联网广告变得更精准，让广告商按照通过广告活动带来的最终销量或者新增用户进行付款。"
  From Google Translate: "Shi Yi founded Avazu Inc in Germany in 2009. He hopes to make Internet and mobile Internet advertising more accurate through big data, allowing advertisers to pay according to the final sales or new users brought by advertising activities."
4. "用石一的方式理解石一" [Understanding Shi Yi in Shi Yi's Own Way] (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. 2017-08-03. Archived from the original on 2025-07-21. Retrieved 2025-07-21.
  The article notes: "12 岁只身留学德国，14岁开始管理BBS，16 岁赚取人生的第一桶金，18岁就读德国法兰克福大学计算机科学与技术专业，19岁创办广告投放公司 Avazu，24 岁入选《福布斯》“中国 30 位 30 岁以下创业者”名单，25岁身家超20亿元，27 岁登上《财富》 “中国 40 位 40 岁以下商界精英”榜单，28岁先后荣登《福布斯》全球版“亚洲30位30岁以下青年才俊榜”和“中国30位30岁以下青年才俊榜”"
  From Google Translate: "Studying in Germany alone at the age of 12, managing BBS at the age of 14, earning the first pot of gold at the age of 16, studying computer science and technology at the University of Frankfurt in Germany at the age of 18, founding the advertising company Avazu at the age of 19, being selected into the list of "30 Chinese Entrepreneurs Under 30" by Forbes at the age of 24, having a net worth of over 2 billion yuan at the age of 25, and being listed in the list of "Fortune China 40 Under 40" at the age of 27. At the age of 28, he was listed in the "30 Young Talents Under 30 in Asia" and "30 Young Talents Under 30 in China" of the "Forbes Global Edition"......"
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Shi Yi (Chinese: 石一) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Ivan Raković

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Delete per non-notable BLP with no SIGCOV. Being mentioned in a source as a referee for an event does not establish notability. Isaidnoway (talk) 06:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Well known the subject. Sources have been added in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G-Lignum (talk • contribs) 07:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete don't see WP:SIGCOV and so doesn't look to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Troy Alston

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Autobiography of a non-notable athlete. Subject does not appear to be notable enough for a standalone article, and coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. Fails WP:NATHLETE. CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per WP:COOKIE. Regional level athlete like countless others. Svartner (talk) 18:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sheng Liang

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO, not much WP:SIGCOV in independent sources. I don't know if cloud.com counts as "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record". TurboSuperA+_(talk) 09:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There is a suitable redirect target: Apache CloudStack. The article subject is mentioned in the History section. Pavlor (talk) 11:53, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Citrix post is WP:PASSING mention. Selective content can be merged into Apache CloudStack. Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources about Sheng Liang. I support a merge/redirect to Apache CloudStack per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion as suggested by Pavlor and Caleb Stanford. Cunard (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Huang

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Doesn't meet WP:NBIO, not much WP:SIGCOV in independent sources. I don't know if cloud.com counts as "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record". TurboSuperA+_(talk) 09:58, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete :There is no coverage at all. I'm surprised this stayed up as long as it has. -- BriefEdits (talk) 07:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is a suitable redirect target: Apache CloudStack. The article subject is mentioned in the History section. Pavlor (talk) 11:51, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't see a mention of Alex at the Citrix source posted. Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dominic Heale

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this BLP about a journalist and news presenter, and added a reference to a local newspaper. I am not seeing enough coverage to meet WP:GNG, however, and he doesn't meet WP:JOURNALIST. The other two references in the article are primary sources. Tacyarg (talk) 09:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete. Coverage seems limited to official (work) bio plus local news press-release like coverage of him retiring. Too little too meet WP:NBIO IMHO. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RS Lakshan Don

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No evidence of notability. Lack of reliable sourcing is evident, and a WP:BEFORE only shows coverage from social media sites. Fails WP:GNG. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't see a single reference that represents significant and independent coverage of the subject. Many, if not most, of the sources don't even mention his name. Results of competitions that he didn't compete in and notices from the dojo he teaches at fail to meet WP:GNG. I also don't see any SNG that he meets. Papaursa (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I searched for information about the subject but couldn’t find anything from independent and reliable news sources. The subject fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 10:26, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh Dilay

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The article lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The references only offer passing mentions and didn't provide in-depth information to support a standalone article or biography, failing yo meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:BLP. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sponge Cola, of which he is a longtime member. I can find no evidence that he has done anything notable outside of that band. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per above. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sponge Cola per above. AstrooKai (Talk) 16:03, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Barrie Henderson

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Clear WP:COI or WP:PE. Sources only mention the subject in passing, and notability appears to be lacking. Article includes some promotional content. Fails: WP:GNG. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There are several unreliable sources cited in the article, and the content appears to be AI-generated. The subject fails to meet the requirements of WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tahirkheli

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GNG fails, not enough coverage Dolphish (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – This page has been dramatically shrunk over time. It seems to have had issues with edit warring and original research. Some of the sources it used to cite included [22] and [23]. – Ike Lek (talk) 04:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The8BitDrummer

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No evidence of notability. Article is unsourced, and there isn't any coverage from reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Same article creator as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GrayStillPlays (2nd nomination); this is also just copied from Wikitubia. Even the Wikitubia article has a "Citations needed" template. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 03:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Not that notable to have their own article. Excelse (talk) 10:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non-notable online content creator. Also, something I noticed is that the original creator changed the properties of the first commenter's response in an uncivil manner, so someone should take a look at that. [24] Surayeproject3 (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non-notable YouTuber. GNews has nothing. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nikos Nikolaou (rower)

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I'm not finding the required WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG, with only sources on unrelated people in a BEFORE, and a mention at [[25]]. Not seeing a clear redirect target here either seeing as the subject participated in two Olympics. Let'srun (talk) 00:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Greece at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Rowing per nom. Fails GNG due to lack of SIGCOV. As he also participated in the 1952 Olympics, we could also redirect to Greece at the 1952 Summer Olympics#Rowing. Having multiple suitable redirect targets is not a valid reason to choose neither and delete anyway. Frank Anchor 02:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not opposed to either target provided a note is provided to readers that he participated in the other one. Otherwise I prefer deletion which allows for readers to see all articles mentioning the subject. Let'srun (talk) 02:51, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is feasible. I would suggest the hat note currently used for two time Olympian Kossi Akoto’s redirect to Togo at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Frank Anchor 02:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That looks good to me. Let'srun (talk) 03:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A search would not work in this case due to the disambiguator in the title. Redirection of an article with one or more valid targets is also preferred over deletion (for any case) as it maintains the history of the article. Frank Anchor 02:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per lack of a clear redirect target. Svartner (talk) 02:51, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as described by Frank Anchor. Available sourcing I could find is minimal and nonindependent, but preserving the page history seems like a good idea, as print sources could turn up in the future. – Ike Lek (talk) 03:18, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Greece at the Summer Olympics#Rowing per Frank Anchor. Blocked user Lugnuts created this article sometime back in 2018 and left it until today. In my option, this article fails WP:GNG and possibly notability guidelines for sportspeople since there is little significant coverage. Galaxybeing (talk) 10:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that your proposed target is different than that of Frank Anchor and does not mention the subject, which would likely result in it being taken to RfD. I think Greece at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Rowing makes more sense if we are going to redirect since it mentions the subject and a hat note can be added. Let'srun (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Frank Anchor. Surayeproject3 (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Roessler

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Promotional, fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Sources in article do not show significant coverage; only one primarily focused on him is WP:IMDB (WP:BEFORE didn't turn anything up either). GoldRomean (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Lacks independent, authoritative sources that meaningfully address the actor CivicInk (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also I think that editors should check other wikipedia lang sections CivicInk (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@CivicInk - Out of curiosity, what does this comment mean? GoldRomean (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like a promo compain in a few lang sections for person CivicInk (talk) 13:51, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - his role in Dead to Me was fairly significant but I don't see any others so we're short of the SNG for actors. This is the only secondary source I can find that gives any meaningful info about him, and it's on romper.com. Zzz plant (talk) 23:43, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paulus van der Sloot

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The subject is the father of a suspect Joran van der Sloot in a disappearance case Disappearance of Natalee Holloway. He was briefly implicated and as such is covered in both those articles, but he is not notable in his own right. Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - sourced to CBS and two deprecated sources. Poorly written so it's not worth my time fixing. Not presumptively notable as a low-level judge. Bearian (talk) 13:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Joran van der Sloot#Father's involvement in the case as fine ATD, and per CHEAP and PRESERVE. Theoretically, there is a chance that his work as a lawyer is important enough for him to pass the GNG but then the article would need to somehow reflect that. It doesn't. If someone finds that he was an important lawyer and reworks the article to reflect that, I would reconsider. Until then, this at the very least an unnecessary SPINOFF. gidonb (talk) 06:28, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zack Scoular

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Only sources in article and found in WP:BEFORE are WP:ROUTINE news clippings, with which one can only make little more than a database entry of statistics and not an encyclopedic article, thus failing WP:NOT. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" _(hihi) 14:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose Finished runner-up in a Formula Regional championship and a multiple-time race winner at Formula Three level—fairly notable as a junior driver. WP:SIGCOV is found here: [26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34]. There are several race reports at the level that go beyond trivial mentions. MB 2437 22:19, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll make an SA table when a I'm home from work but many of these are interviews with the subject which would not be independent, and/or focus on other topics, such as the championship he's competing in, or the 00r0 Motorsport video game team. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" _(hihi) 22:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not !voting until I read other opinions, but I think this is a good example of bare notability. Under different interpretations of WP:GNG, I think the big determining factor is whether or not interviews are considered as independent- I've heard differing opinions between AfD and AfC.

My source breakdown:

- Formula Scout [35], [36] I think are both GNG compliant, but are on the shorter side. Since it's the same outlet, we can count that as one source.

- VelocityNews article about going to Europe ([37]); I think this is GNG compliant, but others may have concerns about independence.

- NZ Herald [38]. I can't view this because of the paywall, but given that this is a notable organization (The New Zealand Herald), I'd assume it's good. However, I don't want to make assertions about it unless I can actually read it.

- Feeder Series interview [39], good if we are allowing interviews.

- Stuff comes from a notable outlet, but once again is an interview.

Main determining factor in my opinion is the NZ Herald article and whether or not interviews count as acceptable under GNG. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 01:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Include iRacing controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.89.249.120 (talk) 21:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)~~ [reply]

This discussion belongs at Talk:Zack Scoular. MB 2437 21:30, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

if hes not deleted, theres no reason not to add this to this persons wiki 76.90.212.34 (talk) 03:53, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Martindale

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As per WP:TOOSOON. Individual can be verified through independent sources, but lasting notability is unclear and it does not appear that Martindale clears WP:ANYBIO Nayyn (talk) 13:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Other than asking for Russian citizenship, I don't see much written about the person, that isn't related to that. Could likely be too soon, unclear how the story will play out (traitor or hero)... Oaktree b (talk) 13:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC) $$[reply]
- Comment: Quite a noisy this story in the media.--СтасС (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable at this point. As an aside, I don't know where they're getting the US Army affiliation. Neither of the linked sources mention him serving at all in any capacity.Intothat darkness 15:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is sustained coverage over the last nine months, predating the announcement of his Russian passport. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:56, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - actual treason is surprisingly rare, so sustained coverage will happen. Bearian (talk) 15:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flamingo (YouTuber)

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Currently zero in-depth references from reliable sources. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Individual apparently has a lot of YouTube subscribers, but no indepth independent coverage Nayyn (talk) 10:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Source 4 is a RS, but mentions this person along with other winners. I'm not sure the award is notable either... In any case, the rest of the sources given are non-RS, or passing mentions. I don't see anything other than the sources already in the article. Oaktree b (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No idea how to find Flamingo instead of flamingos, thus I couldn't find anything good either. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:09, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Just another common Roblox YouTuber. Nathannah • 📮 15:24, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Would disagree; he has a top-of-the-year award. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's literally cited to one of his videos. A primary source. And knowing kids awards, they usually have ballot stuffing that would make Mike Lindell's head explode. Nathannah • 📮 18:32, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, no awards are cited to his videos. Flamingo (YouTuber)#Awards. Roblox is much bigger than a children's platform. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's still thought of mainly as a place for children. Nathannah • 📮 22:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's still an award recognized by independent RS. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
🤦🏻‍♀️ Then add that reliable source, please. It's currently sourced to his own video, which is wholly ineligible for use here. Nathannah • 📮 21:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Please point out where an award is sourced to his own video. From what I see, it's currently sourced to a subsidiary of VentureBeat—which is GRel—while even the award I didn't talk about is sourced to Roblox. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The most subscribed Roblox YouTuber of all time, actually. Blubewwy (talk) 20:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That absolutely needs a proper and neutral source, and no YouTube is not a source. I'm not including links to our sourcing guidelines because I just like seeing things in blue. 22:36, 16 July 2025 (UTC) Nathannah • 📮 22:36, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Believe me, I have tried to find sourcing for him before. For a while there I always viewed him as one of the higher end gaming YouTubers that didn't have an article. But that's for good reason. Hopefully one day it works out but for now he fails notability. λ NegativeMP1 15:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restore back to draft. I'm pretty sure the article was moved to mainspace by someone who didn't even actually submit it to be reviewed first, so it was not ready for mainspace at all. Let it go back to being a draft so sources can continue to be gathered. Blubewwy (talk) 20:48, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
drafty/do not delete; I don't want this deleted just turn to draft instead. freesucrose (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is a draft article verson of the page, but the main space page should definitely be deleted since YouTubers are rarely notable. 2600:1700:6180:6290:E84C:192:F4EB:AF1E (talk) 04:19, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. YouTubers are rarely notable. I don't see any reliable sources in the article. 2600:1700:6180:6290:E84C:192:F4EB:AF1E (talk) 04:19, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — a lot of primary non-reliable sources are his only coverage. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — no reliable sources and the ones that are lack information for it to be an independent article. LazarEpic (talk) 05:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — As above comments have mentioned, not many secondary/reliable sources for the subject and those that are lack significant information about them. Surayeproject3 (talk) 15:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Little sigcov outside primary sources. Go D. Usopp (talk) 10:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michele Briamonte

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Non notable lawyer, does not pass minimums of WP:ANYBIO, or WP:GNG, after doing a WP:BEFORE tags keep being removed by IPs with no explanation Nayyn (talk) 10:19, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I can only find hits about a kickboxer [40], or stories about insider trading [41], I'm not sure if either one is about this same individual. Oaktree b (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I noticed the same thing, and a lot of the sources added to the article do not verify the text. I put a notice on the talk page asking for clarification and pinged the article creator, but nothing has happened in nearly a week on this. Nayyn (talk) 14:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No reliable sources nor any assertion of notability, for a BLP. Bearian (talk) 13:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - sock-created spam, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ameerah1. MER-C 10:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Serena Waldman

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Fails WP:GNG. Barely has any secondary sources and no apparent significant coverage of the person. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 06:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Exceptionally few sources, none of which establish notability with no SIGCOV. Weirdguyz (talk) 08:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 17:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Higino A. Acala Sr.

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Barely any reliable sources seen in Google Books and in an outside search. His role doesn't seem notable, as he doesn't have any coverage (the movement seems quite notable but only in law sources). Other than that, he isn't notable whatsoever. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 04:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I was unable to find a copy of the listed reference - Elvin A. Cabañero; Higino M. Acala Jr. (2000). Biography of Higino Acala Sr - on the Internet; though as one of the authors appears to be his son, it is probably not sufficiently independent regardless. Curbon7 (talk) 04:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've spent some more time looking for sources with a number of search queries, but none have returned any significant coverage (actually, this returned almost no sourcing at all besides name-drops in lists of lawyers in the Philippines [42]), and I do not think the book above would be reliable as it is written by two relatives. The subject did not hold an WP:NPOL-qualifying position, nor does he appear to pass WP:GNG. There is no obvious WP:ATD target, so delete. Curbon7 (talk) 04:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Mulla

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. The only sources I can find are paid-for press that falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Source analysis of the page at time of this AfD recommendation is below. CNMall41 (talk) 03:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Source Analysis --CNMall41 (talk) 03:56, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Reliable?	Count source toward GNG?
(1) https://www.punekarnews.in/unifo...	WP:NEWSORGINDIA and basic churnalism. No byline, starts with city name which indicates press release, and no editorial oversight I can find on the website.	✘ No
(2) https://www.newindianexpress.com...	100% NEWSORGINDIA. Promotional headline, photo, etc. Byline of "news desk" indicates it is not staff written.	✘ No
(3) https://zeenews.india.com/india/...	SAA - Byline of "zee media bureau" indicates churnalism and NEWSORGINDIA	✘ No
(4) https://www.financialexpress.com...	Same, same. Byline indicates not written by staff and likely NEWSORGINDIA	✘ No
(5) https://www.lokmat.com/national/...	Can't translate as it is from a website that locks copy/paste for fear someoen will steal its content. Looks similar to the rest of the churnalism I found.	? Unknown
(6) https://www.freepressjournal.in/...	Written by "staff reporter" so must be from an actual staff reporter (sarcasm). Another indication that it was NOT written by a staff writer. Starts with city name indicating press release churnalism and no byline tells me it is NEWSORGINDIA	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

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Weak delete - potentially notable, but with a BLP, we must look at the "four corners" of the article, and as such fails WP:SIGCOV. I don't oppose draftifying this. Bearian (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Potentially notable for his work and books, but the sources are clearly promotional. Not a single source is secondary, reliable and SIGCOV. Zuck28 (talk) 22:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mycat

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Seems to be a clearly self-promotional page created by a WP:SPA that handily fails WP:NBIO, and the author has been demonstrating WP:OWN behavior by reverting any tags applied to the article, so I was forced to bring it to people's attention. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Yeah, definitely doesn't pass notability. This page reads more like a software index than any sort of page with value to an encyclopedia. And my own WP:BEFORE search doesn't turn up anything. λ NegativeMP1 15:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Vegantics (talk) 20:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve AJ Broad. Author should use WP:DRAFT instead of creating similar articles. IgelRM (talk) 22:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Nixleovel (He/They) (Talk • Contribs) 01:16, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The page now only contains relevant information to fulfil the broken link that links to the page from the ZX Spectrum games list. Better to have something on the end of the link than to have a worthless blank page right? Cheers! Wiper2001 (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not how notability works. Not all red linked pages are notable, sometimes editors link to blatantly non-notable subjects. In that case you should just remove the link. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maryanne Oketch

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When I first nominated the article, I just assumed that the WP:BLP1E applies and would overrule notability guidelines, like WP:GNG. However, the voters disagreed with each other about BLP1E and applying it, and the participation was sorta low-ish, resulting in "no consensus". To complicate matters, not even WP:BIO1E, which applies to anybody, living or deceased, was mentioned.

Fast forward to today, more concerning as should've been addressed earlier is her compliance with WP:N, especially WP:GNG and/or WP:PAGEDECIDE, and WP:NBASIC. Additionally, WP:BIO1E should apply if BLP1E doesn't, and WP:BIOSPECIAL should apply in case she meets only "additional" criteria instead of "basic" ones. I re-raised the notability issue a couple months back.

Transcluding from Talk:Maryanne Oketch

Two years after the prior AFD discussion was closed as "no consensus", I've still yet to see reliable secondary sources demonstrate this person's general or basic notability, despite her status as the second black female Survivor winner. In the prior AFD nom, I've refuted two "keep" votes that cite the sources like interviews (exemplifying primary sources, like this now-defunct video interview) and the winners/losers list of 2022 (verifying her as the Survivor winner), but... Well, the AFD result's there, so that's that.
So far, she's not listed for not-yet-filmed Survivor 50, and she's yet to appear on Big Brother. Even if she were to appear there or become a doctor, per WP:BIOSPECIAL, she still wouldn't be basically or generally notable.
If looking for reliable sources to verify her notability as a medical student, I'm doing my best:

Interviews, which don't count per WP:GNG and WP:NRVE: CBC, Global News (Canada)

School newspaper article from the medical school that she's attending; a university newspaper.

George Ho (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Since then, I've yet to see her appear on Big Brother and my concerns being addressed, especially about her notability outside Survivor. Well, even appearing on Big Brother still might not make her generally or basically notable. Preferably, per cited rules, the page must be redirected to Survivor 42. George Ho (talk) 20:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Survivor 42. WP:BLP1E, WP:SUSTAINED, WP:PAGEDECIDE, WP:CRUFT, WP:NOTPLOT... etc. etc. etc. Take your pick. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 20:58, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I have already added three additional in-depth articles about her life that have been printed since. WP:BEFORE helps when determining over time if someone continues to be notable. Quick, Spot the Quetzalcoatl! (talk) 21:43, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I reviewed your edits (diff 1, diff 2, recently diff 3). I admire your desire to stand me corrected and application of WP:BEFORE, but most of the sources, especially interviews (primary sources, indeed), you cited primarily covered her Survivor win. Also, I think I already addressed in the talk page the marginality of her notability especially as a medical student and someone engaged, didn't I?

I'm kinda unsure whether you were arguing to be bold and improve the article. Sure, improving the article would be a plausible rationale to keep the article. Nonetheless, even prettying up and adding some more stuff about her still won't prevent an article from being deleted or redirected, will they both? George Ho (talk) 03:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Should've realized and then linked essay WP:OVERCOME much earlier. George Ho (talk) 21:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC))[reply]

And just how many sources do you need before you believe a reality show winner is potentially notable despite the fact they have the win? It is pretty rare for someone to double down on such an argument, just not letting something ho... Quick, Spot the Quetzalcoatl! (talk) 03:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not multiple precedents, like the AFD discussion about the Survivor 43 winner and the AFD discussion about the 41 winner? Sure, they won, but that doesn't make them notable. As it turns out, (almost?) none of "New Era" (i.e. season-numbered era) winners are notable per policies and guidelines. I can provide more examples, like the AFD discussion about the Island of the Idols winner, but that's too plentiful, isn't it?

Due to plenty of Survivor winners being proven notable for just one event (WP:BIO1E or WP:BLP1E), almost none of further New Era winners have their own articles created or developed nowadays, and creating such articles is too risky anymore.

Sources aren't the only ones. Somehow, the Survivor contestants should typically have pre-Survivor notability (e.g. Keith Famie the chef) or gained some attention for activities besides appearing on Survivor (probably Helen Glover (Survivor contestant) due to losing her own newspaper column and hosting her own radio show). George Ho (talk) 04:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I tried a draft list of Survivor finalists, including winners, but an AFC volunteer rejected it as "arbitrary". Even the list of Survivor winners itself was deleted per this AFD discussion. George Ho (talk) 04:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ho ... Can you explain why you stated she is notable in the transcluded statement, and then reversed yourself? Quick, Spot the Quetzalcoatl! (talk) 03:42, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean to say or imply that she's "notable". I just stated my concerns and that I've tried harder to verify her notability outside Survivor. Speaking of Survivor, she'll not appear on Survivor 50, unfortunately. George Ho (talk) 04:06, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:22, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How so? Checking the sources on the Wikipedia Library, the notability of her pre-Survivor career, despite its existence, isn't well verified by reliable sources. Also, I tried finding eligible reliable sources notability of her post-Survivor activity. All I can find are interviews, her engagement, and her status as a medical student, which is very brief to describe, honestly. Also, what about WP:SUSTAINED and WP:BIO1E? George Ho (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per the other keep voters the sources are sufficient to pass GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:393C:353:1E20:35FA:D6CE:9085 (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2025 (UTC) (This IP address was used by a blocked sockpuppet. —George Ho (talk) 19:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC))[reply]

Omer Shem Tov

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As well as this article, these articles:

...appear to fall under the scope of WP:BLP1E and WP:1E, which advise against creating standalone biographies for individuals who have received significant coverage only in connection with a single event. The subjects are not independently notable outside of that context, and reliable sources focus almost exclusively on their involvement in the October 7 attacks and following kidnappings. Wikipedia is not news and does not exist to document every individual who happens to receive temporary media attention. When a person's public presence is limited to one notable occurrence, and there is insufficient independent information to build a full, balanced biography, the subject is better covered within the article about the event itself. The articles in their current form function as pseudo-biographies, attempting to fill space with peripheral details (such as personal background or minor biographical trivia) that lack significant coverage in reliable sources. This does not meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion, and a redirect to Gaza war hostage crisis would more appropriately place the subject's notability in context. Smallangryplanet (talk) 19:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am in favor of removing it, or even combining them with his biography in a single article. Farcazo (talk) 20:18, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Farcazo Can you confirm that you actually are the ip-editor who changed their opinion from delete to keep? Lova Falk (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't know who it is but I'm not him. Farcazo (talk) 20:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've already returned the response to normal. Farcazo (talk) 20:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: They're all non-notable individuals... Replace one name with another and the story is largely the same. Besides being held captive, they led routine lives, and wouldn't have an article otherwise. We have coverage of the person in RS, but I fail to see what makes each one different than the other. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - clearly WP:BLP1E. In addition to the pseudo-biographical details you note, these articles rely heavily on the individuals' own accounts of their captivity, which is borderline WP:BLPPRIMARY. The current coverage of these individuals at Gaza war hostage crisis is sufficient. EvansHallBear (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - All the individuals in these articles have received significant coverage in multiple RS. Their stories are extremely important to millions of people, and demonstrations around the world on behalf of the hostages have been extensively covered as well.[43][44][45] Also pinging @User:Lova Falk who initially suggested merging one of the articles (Liri Albag) but reversed course after a discussion.Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also pinging @User:Galaxybeing to request their comment on the C rating they gave the Omer Shem Tov article. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please note I have significantly enhanced the article since it received the C rating. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have excerpted a quote from the Associated Press: "The moment was emblematic of the newfound — and for Shem Tov, unsought and at times unsettling — celebrity the 22-year-old has found since his release from 505 days of captivity in the Gaza Strip." Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Eli Sharabi, at the very least. Sails past WP:NAUTHOR. His book is the first to be published by a released hostage and is the fastest-selling book in Hebrew literary history [46], it will be released internationally [47], and has been the subject of multiple independent reviews [48], [49], [50], [51].— Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhornsg (talk • contribs) 05:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Each biography should be evaluated separately. These individuals have received varying levels of coverage and public attention. For example, Eli Sharabi has clear independent notability due to his bestselling book and extensive media coverage. A blanket deletion rationale under WP:BLP1E is inappropriate. not all cases are alike. Eliezer1987 (talk) 05:42, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fully agree with Eliezer1987 that each of them should be evaluated separately. Lova Falk (talk) 08:54, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As long as the discussion includes all three individuals, I strongly support keeping the article. These are people who became notable not only because of their time in captivity, but also due to their actions after being released. In the case of Eli Sharabi, he also published a book that became one of the most sought-after titles in Israel in the weeks following its release. Eliezer1987 (talk) 07:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is for Omer Shem Tov and not the other three articles. The thing that made me decide for keep is this sentence in the lead: "Following his release in February 2025, Shem Tov traveled internationally to advocate for the release of remaining hostages, appeared and spoke at public events, and met with political figures." Lova Falk (talk) 08:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete when it comes to Edan Alexander.
Keep Eli Sharabi because of the book.
Keep Liri Albag, because of this sentence: Albag’s experiences and actions have made her a recognized figure in Israel and internationally, especially in the context of the Israel-Hamas conflict and the campaign for the release of hostages.Lova Falk (talk) 08:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Substantial sustained media coverage of the crisis makes them likely notable. This goes beyond one event. One event refers to something otherwise minor like a plane crash. Also, they seemed to have remained in the news for vaarious reasons after release, per Lova Falk and Longhornsg. Metallurgist (talk) 22:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - BLP1 doesn't apply because (1) it was an ongoing event, and (2) it has had continuing and significant coverage. This nomination takes the guideline to an extreme level. Also, please don't give them any ammunition to destroy us. Bearian (talk) 09:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all including Edan Alexander and Liri Albag. BLP1 doesn't necessarily apply to individuals especially they have received significant coverage from various news sources about their experiences about being held captivity. Even after they were released, news still continue covering their journey. For example, Eli Sharabi is going to publish his own book about his experiences about being taken hostage and that would garner more significant attention. A sentence mentioned in Liri Albag's article made her clearly notable given her brave actions in saving a hostage from execution, for her experiences about the trauma she endured while taken hostage and also being a public figure in ensuing the release of all hostages. All these should be kept. Galaxybeing (talk) 11:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please note I have added to the lead of the Edan Alexander article: The negotiations and advocacy to secure his freedom became emblematic of international efforts to resolve the hostage crisis. Upon his return, Alexander received a hero’s welcome in his hometown of Tenafly, New Jersey, with hundreds gathering to celebrate his return. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Kidnapping of Omer Shem Tov. It's clearly WP:BLP1E, but there's still a reasonable amount of coverage about him. ^SMason_Garrison 23:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Rename: WP:BLP1E and WP:1E are not grounds for outright deletion, only advice to not have a biography. The circumstances of their kidnapping and release can be covered as an event. These articles might need renaming if there is not enough biographical details to prepare a good biography. The article naming should be consistent with the way other articles about violent crimes are named. See WP:CRIME and WP:NCRIME - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and Do Not Rename: I am skeptical that WP:BLP1E and WP:1E should be applied to experiences that lasted 400+/500+ days, which is not typically the case with most events those guidelines likely contemplated. In any case, the articles all have material beyond the "one event" that this AfD raises (such as Omer Shem Tov Post-release activities, Eden Alexander Post-release_activities, Eli Sharabi Post-release, and Liri Albag After her release, and often additional material in the lede paragraphs). Any renaming proposals should be discussed separately in individual article proposals, rather than in one fell swoop in this AfD. Coining (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The scope and breadth of the reliable and verifiable sources about these individuals and their experiences demonstrates that the notability standard has been satisfied. Alansohn (talk) 02:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Bailey (musician)

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Fails WP:SINGER. Let's see the sources, [1]—seems reliable enough [2]—primary [3]—IMDb [4]—just a Google search [5]—another IMDb [6],[7],[8]—all seem reliable enough (though I'm not doing a full check to see whether they are truly reliable) Per WP:SINGER, I can't seem to find where this musician meets points 2, 3, and 9, I haven't checked further, but this article potentially fails other points too. Doing a WP:BEFORE, I only found vast swaths of social media posts and primary sources, with finding only one source which talks a bit about how he ended his music career. I found nothing else in my search. The article content is littered with unsourced and short sections that are basically fancruft. So violating WP:BLP too. I think this subject isn't notable enough for wikipedia after doing all the checking. Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ critique me 16:16, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 16:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I've had a look at the sources too (and pulled some from the archives). Can't verify [1] due to paywall. [3]/[4]/[5] have been covered above and are not reliable sources. [6] and [7] are reliable but only passing/trivial mentions so can not contribute to demonstrating notability. [8] is authored by someone connected to the subject and can't demonstrate notability. Looking at available sources online, the only ones I can find are all passing mentions and ones listed by the nominator. No other indication of notability therefore I don't think that WP:BAND or WP:BLP are met at all. sk satsuma 17:35, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - we are not LinkedIn. This is such an obvious autobiography (or written for pay on his behalf). I'm not going to repeat all of the problems with such articles, other than to point out that they involve original research, which we have never published. I'm tagging just in case it is kept. Bearian (talk) 10:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article looks like a resume. No Significant Coverage. No evidence of notability. Raj Shri21 (talk) 14:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rao Mitrasen

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The article is largely based on non-academic, regionally published & self-published books with limited verifiability. Multiple sources do not meet the standards WP:HISTRS for historical claims. The article shows signs of WP:FANPOV and contains unbalanced, unsourced glorification and conflicting timelines. Chronos.Zx (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: Even a simple Google search, specifically in the Google Books section, shows that the subject is mentioned in at least five different books. This clearly indicates that there is likely more information available about the subject in offline sources (WP:OFFLINE) as well, although I’m not entirely sure about the full extent of it. Baqi:) (talk) 10:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - since it's not a BLP, WP:BEFORE applies. I combined several references into two sources, and cut out a personal opinion. There is obviously some notability based on what's online and already there. This is not so terrible that it can't be fixed with a few more edits. The article history looks like an editor started to try to fix it and gave up. Alternatively, can this be merged into another article? Bearian (talk) 10:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brenda Vongova

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Fails WP:GNG. References either do not provide WP:SIGCOV or are not WP:INDEPENDENT. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Brenda Vongova meets WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE criteria for notability. She has:
- Founded the UN Chamber Music Society, which has performed at the UN General Assembly and Carnegie Hall;
- Collaborated with international institutions such as the New York Philharmonic, UNESCO, and the Abu Dhabi Festival;
- Been profiled by reputable media sources including *Vogue*, *Newsweek*, *GRAMMY.com*, and *JNS*;
- Worked as a high-level UN civil servant in the Executive Office of the Secretary-General;
- Produced concerts and events in observance of UN-recognized days such as Holocaust Remembrance Day and World Arabic Language Day.
Her artistic and institutional impact has been recognized independently and internationally, establishing clear WP:SIGCOV and WP:INDEP coverage. The article can be improved with more inline citations and formatting, but the subject is clearly notable. MaddieBerry (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Working as a civil servant is an office job... Newsweek is not a reliable source. The rest of the comments suggest notability, but we have no sourcing in reliable sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment in support of the nomination, here's my source assessment, which concludes that zero of the sources contribute to WP:GNG:

Source assessment table prepared by User:Curb Safe Charmer
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
http://hlrecord.org/advice-for-entertainment-lawyers-from-mark-gill-former-president-of-warner-independent-pictures/	Written by Vongova		Not about Vongova	✘ No
https://hlrecord.org/producer-discusses-michael-clayton/	Written by Vongova		Not about Vongova	✘ No
https://harvardcollegepianosociety.com/pianists	Was a member		Just an entry in the list of performers	✘ No
https://www.grammy.com/news/gold-music-alliance-recording-academy-aapi			Just a mention: "Attendees will enjoy a performance by the UN Chamber Music Society (Artistic Director, Brenda Vongova)"	✘ No
https://www.unchambermusic.org/	The subject is the president of the organization		Five paragraph profile of the subject	✘ No
https://www.passblue.com/2018/11/10/a-un-ensemble-whose-music-radiates-peace/	The subject was interviewed for this article		The subject tells the interviewer about her involvement with the UN Chamber Music Society and her work as a pianist	✘ No
https://www.un.org/en/ga/president/62/	The subject works for the UN		Subject is listed as assistant to the Spokesperson under the teams tab	✘ No
https://www.carnegiehall.org/Calendar/2020/01/27/UN-Chamber-Music-Society-Music-Therapy-Concert-with-Musicians-from-The-New-Yor-0730PM			Listed as a performer at the concert	✘ No
https://www.carnegiehall.org/Calendar/2022/05/02/UN-Chamber-Music-Society-Concert-for-Music-Therapy-with-Jerome-Lowenthal-Piano-0730PM			Listed as a performer at the concert	✘ No
https://www.un.org/en/delegate/music-peace-un-chamber-music-society	The subject works for the UN		Listed as a performer at the concert	✘ No
https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/14-july-un-chamber-music-society-resiliart-concert			Listed as a performer at the concert	✘ No
https://marciadesanctis.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Vogue-Sept-2015.pdf			One paragraph mentioning Vongova's 'Bumbum Lift' exercise	✘ No
https://www.un.org/en/delegate/movie-screening-oscar-winning-movie-flow	The subject works for the UN		In the running order for the event, "remarks will also be delivered by Brenda Vongova, President and Artistic Director of the UN Movie Society"	✘ No
https://www.cssd.ac.uk/news/shakespeare-at-the-un	Vongová has clearly been involved in this event		Video features her; mention "Organised by the United Nations Movie Society (whose president, Brenda Vongová studied at Central)"	✘ No
http://vongova.com/partnerships.html	On the subject's own website		Page of adverts by various brands collaborating with Vongova	✘ No
https://wanderwomandiaries.com/blog/travel-fitness	The blogger has known Vongova for years and is their personal fitness guru	Personal blog	five paragraphs describing a fitness routine developed by Vongova	✘ No
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Delete: Only sources I find are from the UN. As the table above shows, the sourcing isn't acceptable. Being covered in Newsweek and PassBlue (one of which is not a RS) isn't helping. Could potentially be notable, but we need sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oaktree, thank you for your chart. I will collect more reliable sources accordingly to make this page better. I will defined revise it. Please give me some time, don’t delete it. Thank you. MaddieBerry (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
definitely * MaddieBerry (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete based on the above analysis of sources, which shows that she lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The creator is a SPA solely devoted to making articles related to the UN indicative that they are involved with the UN. Many of the sources have been deprecated for years. I conducted several independent searches online and social media, although not required, and found nothing that could change my mind. I have no objection to letting this AfD be open for a few extra days. Bearian (talk) 11:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alanna Panday

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Non-notable Youtuber, who received some coverage because of her relationship with notable people like Chunky Panday, Ananya Panday and her parents Chikki Panday and Deanne Panday, but Notability is not inherited. She clearly lacks wp:SIGCOV in wp:SECONDARY reliable sources. There’s no coverage which can be considered critical assessment of her career.

The article creator is currently blocked. Zuck28 (talk) 00:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm unsure about the award, she isn't mentioned in the link given a sourcing. Rest of the coverage seems to be about her having a baby, or doing celebrity things. I don't see notability Oaktree b (talk) 00:47, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Award is not associated with her, it’s for the project. Zuck28 (talk) 07:11, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. It fails to pass WP:SIGCOV and WP:ANYBIO, there is not sufficient significant coverage about her in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 12:51, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no SIGCOV. I have a question though, why does the article's creator being blocked for copyright violations have anything to do with the article? Toolforge says there is a low chance that Alanna Panday has any copyvios on it, so I'm curious why this was brought up. Gommeh 🎮 18:25, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This indicates that the creator may have limited understanding of Wikipedia policies, and editors should make the evaluation carefully.Zuck28 (talk) 18:55, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Traidmarc

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Going through the sources:

[52] is an interview
[53] is just a quote
[54] he is not mentioned
[55] seems to be promotional content WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA (ends with "Sent from my iPhone")
[56] dead link
[57] interview
[58] broken link to his website
[59] broken link to his company
[60] interview
[61] interview
[62] interview
[63] interview
[64] Amnesty website does not mention Traidmarc
[65] press release
[66] press release
[67] dead link to press release
[68] seems promotional WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA
[69] IMDB
[70] self published
[71] self published/dead link

Does not meet the relevant notability guidelines. A search only found more similar sources. 🄻 🄰 14:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No WP:RS from reliable secondary sources that are in-depth to prove notability. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 15:02, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not seem notable per nomMetallurgist (talk) 21:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can’t find the independent reliable sources required to pass WP:GNG because WP:NMUSICIAN isn’t met. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Old-AgedKid (talk) 14:17, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Árpád Ajtony

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Lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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keep there is coverage in the obituary here and he won the Sándor Bródy Prize which seems notable. --hroest 18:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – More than a thousand words of coverage in Hungarian here, ~850 words of coverage here, more than 200 words of coverage here and here among others. See the search results. There's an abundance of significant coverage so this meets WP:GNG. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:17, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disappearance of Selene Delgado

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Article full of unsourced claims, and the topic is a rumor, so it's in violation of WP:RUMOR. JohnMizuki (talk) 11:29, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I suppose with better sourcing there could be an article about the "hoax", but we don't even seem to have that. I can't pull up anything about this case. Sourcing now is non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: As Oaktree said, I definitely think if we pulled some more sources together there could be a successor article on Delgado's hoax. I wonder what actually happened to her and how this hoax affected her if she's even still alive. Lule345 (talk) 19:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: as a search on the name suggest the very existence of this person is possibly an urban legend. Without some reasonable biographical details from a reliable source, such as an attributed Police report of the circumstances of her disappearance, how can the truth in this matter be determined. I think this fails verifiability. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aaron Pott

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The entire article is filled with either unimportant information or promotional information. There seems to be no reason for him to have his own page. The biggest still existent source I could find is this small piece in forbes about his wine not even about him. Every article is about his wine and his credentials are only brought up to promote the wines.

The most notable thing about him is the prize he won, however I have no clue how notable "Food & Wine" is in the landscape of wine judging. Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 12:57, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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There was a previous discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Pott in 2008. It was a keep, but a weak one and only 3 participants contributes, only 2 explicitly voted.

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Keep: Article by their Senior Wine Critic [72] and here [73]. Article badly needs updating though. Oaktree b (talk) 14:09, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Three articles is enough for WP:NBASIC. 🄻 🄰 14:29, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:16, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abhinav Chandrachud

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Non-notable lawyer, who is a son of some famous personality, but Notability is. NOTINHERENT. Fails GNG & NBIO. Creator is blocked as a sock puppet. Zuck28 (talk) 12:17, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - another run of the mill lawyer who was scammed into buying a listing here. Everyone knows we are not LinkedIn and nor we are a compendium for Nepo Babies. Bearian (talk) 11:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anushka Kaushik

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Lesser-known actress with insignificant and non lead roles in multiple projects. Fails Wp:NACTOR. Appears to be a case of Wp:TOOSOON. Zuck28 (talk) 12:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not enough articles for notability. 🄻 🄰 14:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She played lead roles in several web series such as Ghar Waapsi (for which she was nominated for award as best female actor), Crash Course (TV series), Namacool, Who's Your Daddy? (2020 TV series). Behappyyar (talk) 02:16, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete her lead roles are not actually main roles. She fails NACTOR. Old-AgedKid (talk) 14:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pawan Reley

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A regular lawyer, doing his work. No SIGCOV, just press releases, blogs, non-reliable and primary sources, YouTube videos, and passing mentions are used as sources. The creator is blocked as a sockpuppet. Written in a very promotional tone and with a Wp:POV, potentially a case of UPE & COI. Fails GNG & NAUTHOR. Zuck28 (talk) 12:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: the sources are as described by the nominator. 🄻 🄰 14:37, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - he received several made up in one day awards for being an up and coming but ultimately run of the mill lawyer. Remember, we are not LinkedIn. Credible evidence of pay to play scammer creating this article. Bearian (talk) 11:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kewal Garg

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Not enough Wp:SIGCOV. Only routine coverage and non-bylined PR articles are available as sources. Zuck28 (talk) 10:14, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: All of the sources are promotional articles. 🄻 🄰 14:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all sources are promotional fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bunty Singh

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All the sources are about his death. SIGCOV: Not Found, Fails NACTOR, GNG and ANYBIO. Zuck28 (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the coverage appears to be occasioned by his death, assessing the career of someone prominent who has died, not about his death, as would be the case if someone was murdered or died in an unusual way. This kind of editorial obituary coverage actually establishes notability under GNG. Jahaza (talk) 18:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Career includes non-notable projects, that too without proper citations. Fails Wp:NACTOR. Zuck28 (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Brent Chalem

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Under WP:GNG and WP:PROF, this does not warrant a standalone article. Brent Chalem was a minor child actor with supporting roles in 1980s TV and a part in _The Monster Squad_. Aside from a 1997 LA Times obituary, there is no independent coverage, interviews, or critical analysis. Icem4k (talk) 20:54, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - @Icem4k: - how does WP:PROF apply here? Also, I'm seeing some results on newspapers.com. starship.paint (talk / cont) 10:58, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing that out, @Starship.paint. You’re absolutely correct that WP:PROF was cited in error—it doesn’t apply here my bad. I should’ve referred to WP:NACTOR alongside WP:GNG.
After carefully reviewing the article again:
- The LA Times obituary and Ventura County Star provide some independent coverage, but the remaining sources are fan retrospectives and blogs.
- There’s no evidence of sustained, in-depth coverage or critical analysis about Brent Chalem himself beyond his one notable role in The Monster Squad.
With that in mind, I still believe the article fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. However, I’d be open to reconsidering if there are additional substantial sources beyond obituaries and routine filmography mentions. Icem4k (talk) 11:15, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Icem4k: - thank you for correcting the error. I'm taking a crack at expanding the article and we'll see how it turns out. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:30, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Icem4k: - there's at least two in-depth articles wholly about Chalem [74] [75] and I managed to find sources expanding other parts of the article. What do you think? starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think there are enough articles for notability with the ones found by starship. 🄻 🄰 14:46, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - seeing the above vote, I want to get my opinion in, which also addresses the nom. Is there pre-death independent WP:SIGCOV? Yes, there are two articles with him as the main subject (and interview him) [76] Is there critical analysis and assessment of impact? Yes [https://www.thepitchkc.com/wolfmans-got-nards-works-even-if-youve-never-seen-the-monster-squad/ [77] [78] It seems to be a disservice to delete all of these 600+ words and leave readers nothing to know about Chalem. starship.paint (talk / cont) 06:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Starship, there are far more obscure people with wikipedia pages than Brent Chalem. Considering he died so young who knows he might have starred in more films Scottlinehan1999 (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Noriyo Hiroi

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Alpine skier that fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV was found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:48, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep. Competed in three Olympics, four World Championships and probably one hundred World Cup races (didn't count them), placing as high as tenth. Tenth place in the world. Searching for her Japanese name, this was the second hit, which entails that WP:SPORTCRIT is met and I therefore don't feel inclined to search further. Geschichte (talk) 21:03, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While it would seem that coverage will almost certainly exist, that source is seemingly a blog and as such isn't reliable. I have not looked further to see what other sourcing might be out there, but we need something a bit better if we are going to keep this article. Let'srun (talk) 03:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for now, if a suitable redirect target can't be found. Specifically I used her Japanese name when conducting my searches, and while I did get a ton of hits, nearly all of them were blogs or non-independent sources. While notability criteria are helpful, they don't guarantee SIGCOV to exist. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 12:49, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete: It would appear that WP:SIGCOV exists somewhere based on the achievements, but until that can be proven a standalone article is not permissible. I'm also not seeing a clear redirect target, but if someone wants to draftify this, be my guest. Let'srun (talk) 18:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, clearly notable per Geschichte. And this source describes a feature story on her titled 見えない栄光へのテイクオフ ("Takeoff to invisible glory") published in a magazine. The nominator is also blocked. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a blog. Not a reliable or independent source. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 13:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A blog saying she was the subject of a feature story in a magazine. Do you have any reason to assume that there was no feature story in the magazine? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This seems to be the link to the Takeoff to Invisible Glory publication - but the official listing does not seem to include any mention of Hiroi. If she would have gained a feature story, wouldn't she be listed here? InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "official listing" only includes the article titles. It does list an article by the title given in the blog. No reason to believe it wouldn't be about her, or at least feature her prominently. Ike Lek (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Marudhu Pandiyan

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Fails WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:GNG. The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd references in the article are reviews about the film. LKBT (talk) 12:34, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The subject appears to meet notability guidelines for film directors. Reliable sources from The Hindu, Film Companion, and others exist and have been added. Will continue to improve article with inline citations. Surendrankaliyaperumal (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Fails WP:NFILMMAKER even WP:GNG, it seems like the titles of the references have been altered to mislead other editors. Baqi:) (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This AfD will hinge on this sentence from NFILMMAKER The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. (emphasis added). It is certain that he directed 2 movies (Chennai Ungalai Anbudan Varaverkirathu and Asuravadham) which is playing a major role in creating them, but are they significant or well-known works. I am leaning towards no and thus delete but I think this is what the focus of the discussion should be. Moritoriko (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – * Keep – Marudhu Pandiyan directed multiple films that have received independent coverage in national publications including *The Hindu*, *Film Companion*, *News18 Tamil*, and *BBC Tamil*. His film *Asuravadham* was discussed extensively in critical circles and review columns. This coverage satisfies WP:GNG, and directing more than one theatrically released feature supports WP:NFILMMAKER. The article has since been improved with inline citations to reflect these sources. User:Surendrankaliyaperumal (talk) 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kamal Hosni

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This article is about someone who acted in one movie and nothing else. Seems too personal of an article with barely any real information on the individual. GamerPro64 05:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I am unable to find neither information about the person nor anything that indicates they even appeared in the movie mentioned. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Nagol0929 (talk) 05:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Possibly also notable as a singer. The corresponding article in the Arabic Wikipedia has several references that could be added to this one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well the sources have been added but I'm not sure they provide enough information to show how notable the subject is. GamerPro64 03:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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James Helm

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A seemingly promotional article about a marketing professional and social media influencer who only received significant coverage in one article in The Inquirer [79]. He was also quoted and discussed in Philadelphia Magazine [80], but he was not the subject of the article—I don't think this counts as significant independent coverage. On the whole, fails WP:BASIC. JBchrch talk 21:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - there's no allegation or evidence for notability; he fails my standards for attorneys. Bearian (talk) 03:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in addition to the Inquirer, Philadelphia Magazine has more than 15 significant paragraphs [81]:

No one represents the it’s-only-a-business new breed as much as TopDog Law, the entity launched by James Helm in 2019, not long after finishing — perhaps tellingly — a dual JD/MBA program at Rutgers.

“It comes down to unit economics,” Helm said cheerfully on a legal industry marketing podcast last year. (The TopDog founder, who grew up in Delco and now spends most of his time in Scottsdale, Arizona, declined my request for a sit-down interview.) In the podcast Helm went on to explain that you first have to know the average fee you generate on a case — if it’s $10,000, you have work to do; if it’s $25,000, you’re doing pretty well. Then you need to calculate the cost of acquiring a client. If you understand those two things — and if the delta between them is large enough — “then I can get aggressive about acquiring new customers, and I can do it profitably.”

Simple, right?

It’s a formula Helm has used with great success. Six years after launching TopDog, Helm’s operation now has a presence, according to its website, in more than 35 cities across the country, from Ann Arbor and Atlanta to Washington, D.C. Thousands of calls and contacts come in each week.

Key to the success have been decisions Helm made early on, starting with the consumer-friendly TopDog name. “I think traditionally [law] firms have been very bad at branding their businesses,” Helm said on the podcast. “Every other industry has names that are easy to say, easy to sell, easy to remember. Whereas with law firms, the brand wasn’t the focus.” In dubbing his outfit TopDog — a moniker that could just as easily have been used on, say, an energy drink or a new brand of kibble — he landed on something that both was easy to remember and conjured up winning. “I think a large part of our success is due to the name,” he said. “TopDog gets you top dollar.”

Helm’s second outside-the-box decision was to focus on social media when it came to marketing. In part the strategy was born of necessity — Helm didn’t have enough money to advertise on TV; even Google AdWords was out of his league. But it also spoke to his age (27 at the time); Instagram and TikTok were as natural to him as TV was to Rand Spear.

“We really thought there was room to revolutionize [legal marketing], especially on the social media front,” says Ian Harrington, TopDog’s first marketing director. (Harrington would go on to work for Pond Lehocky and is now co-founder, with Ryan Makris and Kate Schenkel, of Very Decent Marketer.) “At the time, no law firm was doing social media with any kind of success or results. It wasn’t by accident that we saw that as an opportunity. James was young; he was good-looking. He wasn’t as good on camera as he is now. That actually took a long time to get right. But we were willing to put in the reps to figure it out.”

Early on, TopDog’s social strategy was based on Helm sharing his personal story. A high school wrestler, he’d started taking prescription painkillers following an injury at age 17, and he’s said he spent eight years as an addict before finally entering rehab while in law school. The message to potential clients: I know what it’s like to be down and out. I can help you get your life back.

But in time that strategy gave way to something more over-the-top — kinetic videos of a hyper Helm doing everything from mugging at the camera to rapping. “We had to get our name out there by being bombastic and creating the TopDog persona,” says Harrington. “The algorithms of the platforms push the louder, the bombastic, the faster-cuts kind of stuff. And we really leaned into that.”

As is increasingly the norm in the personal injury law business, the cases Helm generates — through social media or radio or all those TopDog billboards — are not primarily handled by him or any lawyer working for him, but by other lawyers around the country. In fact, if you look closely at the language, you see that TopDog Law isn’t really even a law firm. Helm’s LinkedIn page describes it as “a leading case acquisition and plaintiff intake platform,” while the TopDog website calls it “a national network for law firms licensed to practice in their applicable states.”

The uber-referral model is not one every lawyer — even in the personal injury realm — is comfortable with. “I think it’s important for the consumer to understand who they’re retaining to represent them,” says Spear. “I’m here every day. I work morning till night. I like meeting with clients.”

Perhaps more to the point: Advertising done primarily for the purpose of referring cases to other firms actually runs afoul of Pennsylvania’s Rules of Professional Conduct. As the rules put it: “It is misleading to the public for a lawyer or law firm, with knowledge that the lawyer or law firm will not be handling a majority of the cases attracted by advertising, to nonetheless advertise for those cases only to refer the cases to another lawyer whom the client did not initially contact.”

When I email Helm about this, I get a quick reply from his general counsel, Sean Berberian. He says that because Helm — through the entity Helm Law LLC — maintains joint responsibility for all cases, he’s not, in fact, “referring” matters and is, therefore, “absolutely compliant with Pennsylvania rules of ethics, as well as other applicable jurisdictions.”

As it happens, none of this may even matter. When I ask Thomas Wilkinson, the former Pennsylvania Bar Association president, about the relevant section of Pennsylvania’s rules, he essentially shrugs. “There is not a tremendous amount of policing in Pennsylvania of improper advertising. Sometimes that policing only occurs when there’s been a complaint about the quality of representation or a client feels they’ve been duped in some way. But for the most part, if clients are pleased with the outcomes, they don’t care a great deal about how they got to the lawyer.”

I understand Wilkinson’s point. And yet it still strikes me as odd, the equivalent of a restaurateur — say, Marc Vetri! — running an ad for his restaurant, but then telling you when you call for a reservation that he’s going to get you a table at one of Michael Solomonov’s or Jose Garces’s restaurants.

Then again, for better or worse, what TopDog and so many other personal injury firms are selling is less legal services than the idea of suing in the first place.

His billboard is covered by Philly Voice [82], a profile in OK magazine [83], his social media in Arizona [84]. Judging this against WP:BASIC, "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject," there are five published independent sources. Little Astros Sign (talk) 11:53, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not significant independent coverage of James Helm, the person: it's mostly quotes of him and his staff about his company and the company's business strategy, with some light background info about Helm as founder. If anything it could count as coverage of TopDog, the company he created. More generally, Helm appears to makes a lot of noise about himself on social media and in the real world, so it's not surprising that some news outlet would quote him or mention him, but that still does not count as significant independent coverage. Separately, I am not convinced that OK! is a reliable source. JBchrch talk 12:56, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have found additional sources about him [85] [86] but to me the article seems to be coverage about both him and his company but are you saying that you think that there is coverage for the company not him? I think the opposite because the articles all describe him as a person as the creator of the billboard, and Philadelphia Magazine article mentions him 18 times. Anyway, WP:BASIC — "the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" — if Inquirer is already one independent source then the other six sources can combine to at least be one (which is more than one meaning it is multiple)? Little Astros Sign (talk) 13:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot access the Law360 article, but the Houston Chronicle article does not appear to offer significant independent coverage of James Helm as a person: it covers the billboard story, mentions that Helm is the person who created it, and quotes Helm. Looking at the sources you provided, the coverage falls in my view under the second prong of the rule you cite, i.e. "trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability" (emphasis mine). JBchrch talk 13:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hundreds of Wikipedia articles use OK! as a reliable source [87] Little Astros Sign (talk) 20:23, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Three articles plus a few short ones is enough for NBASIC. 🄻 🄰 15:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask which three articles you are referring to? JBchrch talk 19:52, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosalind Ross (writer)

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Half of the sources referenced in the article are tabloid-style sources listing supposed "facts" about Mel Gibson's girlfriend. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. She has received no coverage demonstrating her own notability in WP:RS. Aŭstriano (talk) 20:14, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Passes WP:FILMMAKER since she is the screenwriter and director of Father Stu. The Film Creator (talk) 10:27, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@The Film Creator: Although I am not necessarily disagreeing with you (per below), note that the guideline article includes the caveat: "conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.". Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, while I am unconvinced that the subject has a sufficient amount of WP:SIGCOV, and some of the existing citations are of questionable quality (like the legit.ng source), i'm inclined to think she may pass WP:FILMMAKER guideline on the basis of point 3:

"The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series);"

However, that does not mean that the subject can be given a free pass if they do not also meet WP:GNG, which I am not yet wholly convinced by. I also searched contemporary newspaper archives with little discussing her independently. Either way, I am on the fence, but leaning weak keep. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Here's another film person whose biggest work was bombed by the critics - we're taking 42% from Rotten Tomatoes. Bad reviews can make a person notable, but is that and boyfriend to a notorious antisemite what she really wants? Bearian (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A WP:Director pass; the film she directed was reviewed in The Guardian, LAT, Chicago Tribune and so on.- Eva Ux 10:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Elisabeth Lämmerhirt

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I see no indication of notability. The article is purely a genealogical entry. See WP:NOTINHERITED. Surtsicna (talk) 09:56, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Clearly this will not simply be deleted. The potential merge or redirect targets are her husband or her son; any others? —Kusma (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I think the best would be to merge this and the husband to something like Ancestors of Johann Sebastian Bach. Indeed people have tried to study the family, but there just doesn't seem to be much to say beyond the genealogy. The articles at [88] and [89] do not have anything in-depth about Bach's mother; I don't really think the current article can be expanded much. —Kusma (talk) 15:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have created an account to argue against this deletion. As Bach's mother, Lämmerhirt is a key figure in the development of music in the Baroque period even if she did die while he was young. This makes her a key figure of study with many articles published about her and their relationship. To suggest that she is not notable on those grounds alone is preposterous.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/345961730_Bachs_Mutter_und_ihre_Sippe

She is also a major figure in many published biographies and other books on Bach which should be reviewed. Contrapunctus VIII (talk) 13:30, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If she educated Bach at home, and did what you said she did, then find and add the sources. Admins: please give time to rescue this, or consider an alternative and userfy this. Bearian (talk) 15:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Since my "courtesy under construction" tag was removed, the only alternative is to userfy it. Bearian (talk) 14:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Akshay Bardapurkar

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Sources are mostly PR and self-published. Not worthy of an article. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - the Forbes India listing is a made up in one day award for an up and coming but run of the mill business person, producers and managers being especially ordinary. See also WP:NOTFB. The remaining sources are also unreliable or not independent. Bearian (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nominator and Bearian. 🄻 🄰 15:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As I can see in the article, the subject has produced 7 movies (one unreleased) and one web series, so I believe the subject clearly meets WP:PRODUCER. Best! Baqi:) (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The fact of having produced seven films and a web series, on its own, meets none of the criteria at WP:PRODUCER at all, let alone clearly. I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria, just that it takes more than what you said about him. Largoplazo (talk) 14:35, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Largoplazo, Thank you for your comments. If you look at point number three under Creative professionals, I believe the subject clearly meets WP:PRODUCER. That said, if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria, could you please clarify what more would be required for them to pass WP:PRODUCER? Best! Baqi:) (talk) 10:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(1) You're treating point 3 as though it says, in its entirety, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a collective body of work." (2) Why are you asking me about "if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria" when I stated very clearly "I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria"? I wasn't commenting on whether he meets the criteria, I was pointing out that your remarks failed to show that he does. Largoplazo (talk) 11:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Largoplazo: Exactly, that’s what I’m trying to understand: what more would be required for the subject to clearly meet that criterion? Baqi:) (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't help you further because I don't understand what part of the criterion you aren't understanding, if you read all of it, including all the parts that go beyond playing a role in co-creating a collective body of work. Largoplazo (talk) 14:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Agreeing with Baqi, the subject passes WP:NPRODUCER. If someone believes that the subject is non-notable, they need to prove how. It must very obviously pass the notability guidelines. Zuck28 (talk) 18:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's notability that needs to be demonstrated in cases of disagreement, not non-notability. We have criteria for assessing notability, not for assessing non-notability. If it's obvious that the person meets those criteria, you ought to be able to explain how. Largoplazo (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject is a well-known and notable figure in Marathi cinema. He is founder of Planet Marathi, with coverage in reliable sources like Hindustan Times and others in regional languages. He clearly meets WP:NPRODUCER. Monhiroe (talk) 06:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While Akshay Bardapurkar may be active in Marathi cinema, notability on Wikipedia is not based on fame or familiarity, but on meeting criteria like WP:GNG and WP:NPROF, WP:NPRODUCER, etc. The article currently lacks multiple, in-depth, independent, and reliably sourced profiles. Most sources are trivial mentions, event-based PR, or local coverage. Several sources are affiliated or self-published.

The mere founding of a company (Planet Marathi) does not confer notability unless independent, sustained coverage exists about him—not just his projects. As it stands, he does not meet the threshold for WP:NPRODUCER. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Source analysis

No.	Source	Type	Independence	Reliability	Notes
1	The Week – "Akshay Bardapurkar: A versatile producer..."	Feature/Profile	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Reliable magazine but tone is promotional and coverage is not critical.
2	Financial Express – "Plays a pivotal role in promoting..."	Passing mention	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Reliable source, but the coverage is trivial.
3	Vogue India – "Entrepreneur redefining culture..."	Profile	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Glossy coverage, borderline promotional.
4	Lokmat – Award announcement	⚠️ Affiliated	✅🟩 Reliable (regional)	Affiliated with Marathi cinema; routine coverage.
5	SheThePeople – Award mention	✅ Independent	⚠️🟨 Marginal	Source is borderline; not considered highly reliable.
6	IMDb	❌ Self-published	❌🟥 Unreliable	Not considered reliable per WP:USERG.
7	Hindustan Times – Celebrity quote	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Only includes a quote, not about the subject.
8	Maharashtra Times – event coverage	⚠️ Semi-affiliated	✅🟩 Reliable	Not in-depth or significant.
9	ABP Majha – launch event	⚠️ Semi-affiliated	✅🟩 Reliable	Source is routine and local.
10	YouTube (interviews)	❌ Self-published	❌🟥 Unreliable	Fails both WP:RS and WP:INDY.
11	Twitter	❌ Self-published	❌🟥 Unreliable	Not usable as source.
12	Indian Express – Film mention	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Not focused on Bardapurkar, passing role.
13	Mint – business event	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Brief reference in larger business context.
14	Loksatta – press event	⚠️ Affiliated	✅🟩 Reliable	Routine event coverage.
15	Sakal Times – business feature	⚠️ Local independent	⚠️🟨 Marginal	Short, low-depth.
16	YourStory	❌ Not reliable	❌🟥 Unreliable	Blacklisted per WP:RELIABLE.
17	DNA India	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	Passing mention, not substantial.
18	Mid-Day – interview	✅ Independent	⚠️🟨 Marginal	Interview-based, borderline reliability.
19	CineBlitz	⚠️ Semi-affiliated	⚠️🟨 Marginal	Considered low-tier entertainment media.
20	India Today – cultural feature	✅ Independent	✅🟩 Reliable	One-time event highlight.
21	Business World – award list	✅ Independent	⚠️🟨 Marginal	Non-substantive inclusion in a listicle.

All the sources are routine mentions, affiliated coverage, or lack in-depth, critical treatment. The subject don't have independent coverage and fails WP:GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I gently remind the good reader that for BLPs, the burden of proof remains on the proponents of keeping the article. We've gotten into lots of trouble in the past with poorly sourced BLPs, including in India, where last year the government literally tried to shut down Wikipedia, and even now the wealthy and powerful want to make us bankrupt. So sadly we must self-censor. Bearian (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe we're debating only the subject's independent notability here. Has anyone here questioned the article's factuality? The Indian government's threats are over what it considers to be defamatory or uncomplimentary statements, not over the presence of articles on topics the government deems not to be notable. Largoplazo (talk) 14:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Esufaly Goolamhusen Adamaly

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There is nothing to establish Goolamhusen's notability. Fails WP:GNG. Raj Shri21 (talk) 07:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep satisfies WP:NPOLITICIAN. Dan arndt (talk) 05:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Bool

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This article has been in a sorry state since it was first created in 2006, having spent almost two decades as a perma-stub without any reliable secondary sources to demonstrate the subject's notability. It seems his main claim to fame was when Ithaca newspapers called for his business to be boycotted, after he had defended anarchists in the wake of the assassination of William McKinley. A cursory Google Scholar search turned up very little, mostly passing references to him. As I can't verify the subject's notability, as I can't find significant coverage of him in the source material, and as I can't think of any reasonable alternatives to deletion, I'm proposing this article be deleted. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I've added newspaper articles from 1922 (obituary) and 1976 which discuss Bool. His legacy is obviously long-lasting in his field. More research, perhaps using newspapers, will likely produce more coverage.--User:Namiba 16:09, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep: I suppose the sources from 1901 and 1974 in the current sources are helpful, I don't really see much of anything about this person. I tired a New York State newspapers search [90] or the Lib. of Congress [91]... There are hits on the name in Ithica newspapers, but more about routine events (Bool is leaving town, Bool's business)... Oaktree b (talk) 00:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Caaqil Dheryodhoobe

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I nominated this a few years ago, and the article still doesn't show sourcing in RS. I can't find any in Gbooks or Scholar about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 23:10, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: but move the page, the most common name used for him in English seems to be "Siyaad (Qaasim) Dheryo-Dhoobe" while "Caaqil" appears to be a title like chief and Dheryo-Dhoobe might be a nickname or other title. this pdf thats already in the article shows him being referenced in English scholarly sources albeit briefly. One, two, and three web sources in Somali which I read via gtranslate. They aren't the rigour that I would use for a BLP but they show a relatively wide range for such an old figure. A more Reliable Source would be this book where he is mentioned at the bottom of page 57 and page 58 but I can't copy and paste to easily check what it says. Finally we have this Medium article which has interesting information and shows pictures (but not links sadly) of some older sources. In fact, I think the picture is of the book which I linked before. Moritoriko (talk) 04:27, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abubakar M. Gana

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This article fails WP:GNG, no valid secondary sourcing to prove notability. Has been flagged as problematic since 2022. Basically a résumé. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 02:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the article appear to rely heavily on primary sources and local coverage. There is limited in-depth, independent reporting that establishes lasting notability under WP:GNG. Much of the content reads like a résumé or institutional profile, which may not meet Wikipedia’s standards for biographical coverage. Unless stronger secondary sourcing is provided.--Unclethepoter (talk) 10:14, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – As the (former) national head of NECO, Gana is automatically notable under WP:NPOL, and coverage in Daily Trust, ThisDay and other national outlets provides the sourcing required by WP:GNG.Aeon Sentinel (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Being head of an accreditation body does not make someone notable under WP:NPOL. 🄻 🄰 13:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mahavatar Swami Bhai

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Not notable. Nearly all of the used sources have major issues, see the talk page for details. Attempts to find fitting, reliable sources have failed.Iluzalsipal (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for lack of reliable sources. Almost every "reference" is self-created ("independent"), not translatable, or tangentially related. We require extraordinary proof for extraordinary claims, and we have never publisher original thought. Bearian (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The subject meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria, with enough reliable sources providing significant coverage of the claims about him across different countries and languages. High-quality sources do exist and have been used. Key evidence in support of keeping the article:

-Major news coverage: The Uruguayan national newspaper El País published a detailed profile on Víctor Truviano in 2015, describing he became a “ser pránico” (pranic being) who claims to have stopped eating in 2006 and even drinking liquids since 2007. That article did not take his claims at face value – it included scientific experts who flatly rejected the possibility (a physiology professor told El Mundo that an adult not eating for years is “imposible” and “quien diga que lleva años sin comer, miente” – “whoever says they’ve gone years without eating is lying”. This demonstrates that mainstream media have covered his story in depth and with skepticism, not merely through self-published material.

-International media presence: Truviano’s story has been reported around the world, indicating broad independent coverage (a strong indicator of notability). For example, the Indian news outlet Vijaya Karnataka (via Headline Karnataka) ran a 2023 piece calling him “the man who lives without food or water for the past 17 years,” explaining that he survives on prana and noting that his longevity without food has astonished the medical community. Likewise, Croatian media covered him when he visited: in 2018 the site Antena Zadar introduced Truviano as “najpoznatiji bretarijanac” (the most famous breatharian) and noted that by his account he had gone twelve years without eating or drinking. That report also mentions a Russian scientist’s tests on Truviano, which found his physiological parameters highly atypical – even though it remained “impossible to confirm” scientifically that he never eats. The very fact that multiple independent news organizations (in India, Europe, Latin America, etc.) have published such stories shows that Truviano has received significant attention beyond trivial or passing mentions.

-Independent investigative sourcing: Far from relying on self-published or non-neutral sources, the article has drawn rigorous journalism. In 2019 the Argentine outlet Cosecha Roja – a respected investigative news site – ran an in-depth exposé on Truviano (tellingly titled “Víctor Truviano, el gurú que no come”, i.e. “the guru who doesn’t eat”)cosecharoja.org. This piece not only recounts his purported inedia (not eating since 2006, and later not drinking) but also documents serious allegations against him by former followers – five women from different countries, one of whom filed an official complaint for abuse and obtained a restraining order. Such coverage is unquestionably independent of the subject and addresses his activities critically. It disproves the assertion that “almost every reference is self-created or tangential”; on the contrary, we have third-party journalistic investigations directly about him. (Notably, some sources are in Spanish, Croatian, etc., but Wikipedia policy allows non-English sources – the key is their reliability and depth, which these sources have in abundance).

-Widespread notability: Coverage in multiple countries and languages underscores that Truviano is a notable figure in the realm of fringe spirituality. Even Italian media have taken note of his case. For instance, a 2016 interview published in Cinquantamila (Italy) highlighted an “uomo… che da otto anni non beve e non mangia… Si chiama Victor Truviano” – translated: a man “who for eight years has not drunk or eaten… His name is Victor Truviano. In that piece, Truviano is cited as one of the extreme examples of “alimentazione pranica” (pranic nourishment). This international attention is exactly the kind of significant coverage that satisfies the General Notability Guideline (WP:GNG). The subject is not a mere local guru with self-published claims, but someone who has drawn global press coverage and other behavioral and scientific scrutiny.

-Article improvement is preferable to deletion: The nominators’ concerns about “extraordinary claims” and sourcing can be addressed by improving the article, rather than deleting a notable topic. Wikipedia’s role is to document what reliable sources report – including fringe or extraordinary topics – with due weight and skepticism. In this case, the existing sources provide the necessary material to write a neutral, verifiable article: one that states Truviano’s / "Mahavatar Swami Bhai" (his new name) claims as claims, and also notes the scientific consensus that such breatharian claims defy known biology (as El País and Antena Zadar did by consulting experts). There is no policy that mandates deleting an article solely because the subject’s claims are unusual; what matters is that the subject is notable and that claims are presented with appropriate attribution. Here, the threshold is clearly met by multiple reliable sources covering Truviano over many years. Any prior issues with the article (e.g. improper sourcing or tone) can be fixed by incorporating the high-quality sources above. In conclusion, the subject’s notability is well-established by reliable coverage, so the article should be kept and improved rather than removed. Franciscoevan (talk) 22:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian articles are either not translatable to English or inaccessible. The Italian source is a passing mention of Truviano in a transcript of a radio interview with another Breatharian, see [92] and not really high profile. Iluzalsipal (talk) 11:10, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohit Marwah

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Non-notable actor. Lacks Wp:SIGCOV. Most of the sources are either passing mentions or non-bylined promotional articles. Wp:NEWSORGINDIA. His acting career consists of two films in which he has non-lead roles, and no award nominations or wins, failing Wp:NACTOR.

His additional credits include non-notable short films and music videos.

He received some press coverage due to his connection with the Ambani and Kapoor families and his marriage but notability is not inherited. Zuck28 (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR even WP:NBASIC, also wikipedia is not WP:INHERITED. Baqi:) (talk) 08:57, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep He had lead roles in two notable (if average) films, so just meets WP:NACTOR. See WP:ICTFSOURCES for reliable sources for Indian films - there are additional, reliable sources in the articles about the films which could be added here. It appears that he is now a managing director at a university - this [93] is not a reliable source (being sponsored content and full of peacockery), but if a reliable source could be found, that info could be added to the article to bring it up to date. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The subject meets WP:NACTOR with lead roles in two feature films. I can find references which are enough to support the case. Sooterout (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which of the sources, demonstrates that these two roles are lead roles? Zuck28 (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The actor did have significant roles in Fugly and Raag Desh. In fact, in the latter, the subject was featured on the theatrical poster, which strongly suggests that he was one of the central characters. In Fugly as well, the actor played a major role that received attention and analysis in reviews by film critics.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Passes NACTOR through roles in Fugly and Raag Desh. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 13:21, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are no sources to verify that these roles are significant to pass NACTOR. Zuck28 (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reviews in RS listed on the articles for both films consistently mention Marwah. I would consider this enough to verify that his roles in the films are significant enough for NACTOR. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source Analysis.
- Source 1 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 2 passing mention
- Source 3 passing mention
- Source 4 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 5 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 6 Promotional for debut release. Short article on who subject is related to and how the subject came to limelight before debut.
- Source 7 Interview. Non-Independent of the subject.
- Source 8 Same promotional article with same content as Source 6. Same publishers.
- Source 9 about Subject's wedding
- Source 10 passing mention.
- Source 11 page no available.
- Source 12 Non-Independent of the subject,
- Source 13 Same as source 6
- Source 14 article is about Akshay Marwah. Nothing on the subject.
- Source 15 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 16 promotional article about the subject being launched in debut Fugly.
- Source 17 passing mention
- Source 18 passing mention
- Source 19 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 20 just an image of subject dressed in Dior Homme
- Source 21 images of subject in fashion.
- Source 22 subject walk the ramp for Fashion designer.
- Source 23, Non-independent of the subject as new face of 'Provogue'. RangersRus (talk) 00:45, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ador Azad

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Likely WP:TOOSOON but fails WP:NACTOR. A lot of announcements on upcoming projects (non of which are notable for Wikipedia), but nothing in-depth about the subject himself outside of non-bylined churnalism and promotional content that mirrors what fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it: Recently, he is a very popular and notable actor in Bangladesh, about this topic covered in the (Acting career) section. This article has been passed WP:NACTOR for the (Acting career) section. Moreover, this article has been accepted into the AFC draft submission. – Aqsis Bey (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep He pasess WP:NACTOR from the roles he's done. Gepeas (talk) 09:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First, see WP:HOUNDING. Fewer than 50 edits and yet you show up at numerous AfD discussions with different topics, filed on different dates, etc. Only one connection to all of these which is me. Second, see WP:ATA. Third, there is no inherent notability from WP:NACTOR based on roles (see discussion here).--CNMall41 (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, I didn't even notice you until now, trust me, I'm not exactly out here hounding you. Don't flatter yourself. lol. Secondly, I understand that The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions meets the notability under WP:NACTOR. If that’s incorrect, feel free to correct me, preferably without the snide tone. Gepeas (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not flattered. Pretty duckish when new accounts are created to HOUND. You wouldn't be the first. To appease your vote, I will reiterate what I said in my third point above. Yes, you are incorrect. Simply having the roles does not guarantee notability. I would again suggest you read the discuss I linked to (or don't). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how you came up with this hounding idea. Out of the 11 AfD discussions I'm involved in, only two came up with your name. Anyway, I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with your dogmatic mindset. Gepeas (talk) 18:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Don't see any source which can be regarded as significant and reliable. WP:TOOSOON and FAIL WP:ACTOR. - Rht bd (talk) 17:27, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As per the actor has done some notable films.

—ApurboWiki2024 (talk) 09:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:VW. "the actor has done some notable films." Which films, what roles, what sources verify, where is the significant coverage documenting such? There is NO guideline that says someone is notable for having "done some notable films."--CNMall41 (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting the scent of a UPE firm here. A suspicious account messaged me on social media asking for advice on how to keep this article up! Also, it fails WP:NACTOR, so delete. —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 09:23, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That was me who messaged Yahya, okay, you have to remember that I submitted this page as a draft. And it passed the AFC. So Keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.89.25.23 (talk) 13:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. WP:OR and WP:AUTOBIO can both be fixed editorially, and WP:TNT is an essay about rewriting an article about a notable subject, not a policy-based criterion for deletion. Beyond that, I see no consensus here about the notability of the subject, after three weeks of back-and-forth. Editors are encouraged to remove unsourced content, or any text added by the subject himself. Owen× ☎ 14:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Brown (internet personality)

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Fails WP:CREATIVE. There are many people in history who have gone viral for one thing but it didn't make them long-term notable; ie WP:SINGLEEVENT. This article has no reason to stay. It is mostly about a controversy with another creative Bobrisky; which has this article leaning towards WP:PSEUDO. Besides him being known for cross-dressing in Nigeria (an act that would be reported by the blogs/websites/news regardless of the person), there is no point in this person having an article. It also fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:BASIC. There is no sources that are verifying this person as a professional dancer. There is a source that mentioned he released a single but it is not notable as it did not chart, receive award nominations/wins, or receive any music certifications. Sackkid (talk) 21:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Also note this article was started by the subject himself, a clear violation of WP:AUTOBIO. Sackkid (talk) 22:09, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't see evidence that the article was started by the subject - the behavior at Special:Contributions/Buchei is consistent with a sockpuppet of an experienced editor (starting in sandbox, etc). The subject has contributed to it though (Special:Contributions/Wfjamesbrown). Dreamyshade (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, that was a mistake on my part. It wasn't started by the subject but it was edited several times by the subject on the following dates: November 27 (2 times) and December 31 (3 times) in 2021, lastly on April 4, 2022. After his last edit, he warned about further editing his own page as a conflict of interest. Sackkid (talk) 23:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Thank you for raising the concern, Dreamyshade. Just to clarify: the article was not started by the subject, nor is the editor User:Buchei a sockpuppet or connected to the subject or any other expereinced in any way. The article was originally created as part of a Wikipedia training workshop for queer persons held in Lagos, Nigeria focused on bridging the knowledge gap around underrepresented identities, particularly the LGBTQ+ community in West Africa. I co-facilitated this training alongside other experienced Wikimedians and advised all trainees to begin drafting their articles in their sandbox which explains the use of the sandbox in this case. While it’s possible that the subject, or a fan, may have later edited via Special:Contributions/Wfjamesbrown, that edit is separate and does not undermine the good-faith contribution of the original article creator. Thanks again for the vigilance, and for all your edits on the article. Kaizenify (talk) 06:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Kaizenify, that's very helpful context! Good reminder to me to assume good faith. I was happy to hear about the Write for the Rights efforts from the Wikipedia Diff blog recently, and happy to try to support it from afar. Dreamyshade (talk) 16:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TNT and WP:OR. What a mess: it's like a games of Twelves meets a Battenberg pastry. As I've written dozens of times, autobiographies are almost always original research. I have complete sympathy with the subject, who is subject to discrimination I haven't seen in the United States in my lifetime. Bearian (talk) 02:05, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Bearian Looks like this deletion discussion has stalled out, and I'm wondering if we can get to consensus. I rewrote the article, essentially did a TNT without the delete-recreate process. Curious if you'd be up for taking another look at it? Dreamyshade (talk) 03:26, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:CREATIVE, WP:BLP1E, etc. Going viral once isn't pageworthy. Astaire (talk) 17:13, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Keep. An article being in bad shape is not a good reason to delete. With a quick news search, I found a decent source for him being a dancer, along with other material showing an argument for WP:BASIC as an internet personality: Brown was featured in a notable documentary, and there is a volume of ongoing coverage about him in Nigerian press. However, much of that is relatively light coverage rather than substantial in-depth coverage. I suspect that somebody else could spend a bit more time here and gather together more sources to assemble a decent article. Dreamyshade (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC) Updated vote based on finding additional sources. Dreamyshade (talk) 20:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I appreciate the restructure of the page and I respect your comment but he is not a professional dancer. Also as I said in the above comment, "Besides him being known for cross-dressing in Nigeria (an act that would be reported by the blogs/websites/news regardless of the person), there is no point in this person having an article." Anyone who "cross-dress" in Nigeria would receive significant coverage by the media. Public disagreements should not be mentioned in the 'personal life' section. Also the film or documentary that he is featured in does not feature him as main topic. He is just a person that was interviewed in the documentary, he is not even mentioned as a cast member. Sackkid (talk) 22:17, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The notability claim is for being an internet personality. The article doesn't claim he's a professional dancer, just that he's a dancer, and the source I added verifies that he's a dancer.

Are you saying that coverage of a cross-dressing person in Nigerian news media seems to be WP:ROUTINE, so it doesn't count for notability? I don't see evidence supporting that in the news coverage about him. Much of the news coverage repeats or reflects something he said or did on social media, which seems to be newsworthy because he has such a large social media following. A fair bit of the coverage also has an aspect of tabloid/WP:SENSATIONAL coverage related to his gender non-conformity, with superficial reporting that does not make an effort to verify claims, which is a large part of why I voted weak keep.

As you can read in the sources I added, the NY Times review and Vogue review both describe Brown as one of two main figures in the documentary, not simply interviewed in the film. Dreamyshade (talk) 01:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In a nutshell, that's exactly what I'm saying. I can list several people in Nigeria who have gone viral several times and provide an article that mentions their names but it doesn't make them notable. He hasn't done anything of notable status. Social media posts and everything of that nature are trivial. The mere appearance of the subject in a film, song, video game, television show, or the like is insufficient. Furthermore, when we describe a topic's profession, that's just what it is.. a profession. So with that being said, if he is not a professional comedian, professional dancer, or anything else, it should be removed. For example, when Wikipedia says "Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter is an American singer, songwriter, actress, and businesswoman". All of those titles are appropriate because that is a profession that she earns money in. It doesn't say "dancer" because she is not in the profession of dancing, nor does she make her money from dancer. And regardless of his position in the film or documentary, it still unnecessary for him to have a page. If anything, then this page should probably be merged with the film. You yourself voted that the page was a weak keep, which basically means it might as be deleted because it is not worth keeping. And as said before, it still fails the criterias mentioned above. Sackkid (talk) 02:23, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a comedian, it needs to be established that he does comedic work (stand-up, comedy-streaming videos, etc.). As a singer, he needs to have a charting song/album, certified album, major-label music release, etc. If you are claiming that he is a brand influencer, he needs to have been involved in major endorsements. If you are claiming that he is an internet personality or content creator, he needs to meet the guidelines of WP:CREATIVE. None of these apply to him. Sackkid (talk) 02:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A person doesn't have to meet WP:CREATIVE if they meet WP:BASIC. I've added more sources, and it still looks to me like there's an argument for WP:BASIC, but I'd like to hear from people familiar with Nigerian news media who can better evaluate the sources. Adjusted the article to describe his dancing, comedy, etc., as part of his content creation work, rather than as a separate profession. Dreamyshade (talk) 03:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. So the page has been restructured so that handled the WP:PSEUDO problem but it still fails WP:CREATIVE and WP:ANYBIO. He is still only known for his viral moment and the fact that he cross-dresses in Nigeria; a defiant of Nigerian law which many have gained recognition from. Also, the infobox on the page says he is a comedian and also a brand influencer but there is nothing supporting that he is a professional comedian or professional brand influencer. Sackkid (talk) 22:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Per some of the comment made by Dreamyshade as the subject clearly meets WP:BASIC and WP:GNG through significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources that go beyond mere trivial mentions or routine tabloid pieces.

Brown is not merely notable for a single viral moment (per WP:SINGLEEVENT), while he first gained visibility during the 2018 arrest, his relevance has extended far beyond that. He has written an autobiography "I wrote a book to tell my life's story – James Brown". Punch Newspapers. 10 June 2022., released a single and launched a music career "James Brown drops single after Burna's Grammy win". Legit.ng. 30 March 2021., starred in the 2024 web series Hotel Palava BellaNaija, maintained ongoing public visibility and impact, including being the subject of legislative discourse surrounding the 2022 Nigerian Cross-Dressing Bill per here "Cross-dressing: Bobrisky, James Brown risk jail". Premium Times. 5 April 2022. and in Punch. All these clearly disqualifies the WP:SINGLEEVENT concern as he has remained culturally and socially relevant.

Also the subject has received extensive, non-trivial coverage in a wide range of reliable sources, including:

The New York Times – as part of the HBO documentary The Legend of the Underground which highlights queer activism in Nigeria.

Vogue (June 2021) – features Brown’s role as a leading figure of queer resistance in Nigeria.

"James Brown: Meet popular Nigeria cross dresser". BBC News Pidgin. 20 July 2020. Retrieved 7 June 2021..

His queer presence has also shaped various academic and policy literature:

Academic study: “Queer Nigerians Bravely Breaking Gender Barriers” – MambaOnline (2024)

Journal article: “Discursive Tropes of Aggression Against Queer-Sexuality in Nigerian Standup Comedy” – Sexuality & Culture (Springer, 2024)

This confirms his notability goes beyond personal drama and into societal, legal, and cultural relevance and duly satisfy WP:BASIC. Kaizenify (talk) 10:23, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just he wrote a book does not make him notable. He would fail WP:AUTHOR as he does not meet the criteria. As for him releasing a single, that does not make him a singer. That song was released in 2021 and does not have chart positions, sell significant figure/certifications, or win any major awards. Starring in a web-series and not a major mainstream series is enough for him to fail WP:NACTOR. And again, anyone who cross-dress in Nigeria is going to have some media coverage. There is a published article about who, subjectively, are the most popular cross-dressers in Nigeria but none of the mentioned people (excluding Bobrisky) are notable. "Journal article: “Discursive Tropes of Aggression Against Queer-Sexuality in Nigerian Standup Comedy” – Sexuality & Culture (Springer, 2024)" does not list him nor does it establish him as a comedian. When we say a person is a singer, comedian, actor, etc., it has to be established that those are their careers, not hobbies or one-offs. At the most, James Brown is a hobbyist and he fits certain criterias of WP:LOWPROFILE. Sackkid (talk) 20:47, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability does not require conventional career labels to be “formally established” per WP:ANYBIO. The breadth and depth of independent coverage, the substantive presence in mainstream and academic sources, and continued influence over several years all confirm that this is not a low-profile or fleeting figure, but a culturally significant personality in Nigeria and beyond. Again, while it is true that merely writing a book or releasing a song does not, on their own, confer notability under WP:AUTHOR or WP:MUSICBIO, the totality of coverage and cultural relevance of James Brown warrants keeping the article, per WP:GNG and WP:ENT. The New York Times, Vogue, Punch ,or BBC pidgin are not blog posts or casual mentions, they are substantial media features that focus on him, fulfilling WP:GNG. Lastly, he stars (not appears) in a multi-episode Nollywood web series (Hotel Palava), which received notable media attention, further establishing a career trajectory in entertainment and his HBO documentary appearance is not one-off or minor, it's a feature placement in a global production, reviewed by RogerEbert.com and discussed in major international outlets. Kaizenify (talk) 06:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The journal article "Discursive Tropes of Aggression Against Queer-Sexuality in Nigerian Standup Comedy" does include a couple pages of material about James Brown - an academic analysis of a bit that a comedian did about Brown. If you have access to The Wikipedia Library, it has the full text available. That citation supports a claim that Brown is a noted and criticized cross dresser, not a claim that Brown himself is a comedian.

Brown does not fit WP:LOWPROFILE because because he has actively (and successfully!) sought out media attention for years. Dreamyshade (talk) 19:47, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. The subject receives significant, sustained coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources:

- RogerEbert.com review of HBO’s documentary The Legend of the Underground – names Brown a principal protagonist and analyses his cultural impact.^[1]
- Vogue feature on the documentary and Nigeria’s queer community – profiles Brown’s activism and social‑media reach.^[2]
- National‑press interview in Punch about his 2022 memoir The Chronicles of an African Princess.^[3]
- Ongoing mainstream coverage such as Vanguard’s 2024 report on his visit to Bobrisky in prison, showing notability well beyond the initial viral clip.^[4]
- International news report by Al Jazeera on the 2018–2020 court case that first brought him to global attention.^[5]

Coverage spans 2018–2025 and deals with activism, media career, legal history and public image, so this is **not** a WP:SINGLEEVENT or WP:BLP1E situation. Deleting per WP:TNT would discard a topic that clearly satisfies the General Notability Guideline. Mediascriptor (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per Mediascriptor. The sources outlined does show that the subject meets WP:BASIC. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 23:25, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ Daniels, Robert. "The Legend of the Underground". RogerEbert.com.
^ Desmond, Vincent. "A New Documentary Highlights the Resilience and Joy of Nigeria's Queer Community". Vogue.
^ https://punchng.com/i-wrote-a-book-to-tell-my-lifes-story-james-brown/
^ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/06/photos-james-brown-visits-bobrisky-at-kirikiri-correctional-centre/
^ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/27/nigerian-judge-throws-out-case-against-47-men-over-homosexuality

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 12:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vera Cherepanova

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Fails WP:NBIO. Not supported by reliable and significant sources. More than half of the current sources ([94][95][96][97][98][99]) are primary. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 12:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note - I draftified the page but the author moved it back to mainspace without improvement. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 12:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Not sure about any connection to the UAE? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:02, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. I meant the United States. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:06, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oho! Makes more sense. In any case, I don't think she passes WP:GNG, so Delete Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:48, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:08, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:33, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note I have a google alert for my name and Mrs. Cherepanova's name - we authored a case together in 2020. The case study received a few awards, including Outstanding New Case Writer - https://www.thecasecentre.org/AwardsComps/winners/year/2020

I know that Vera has a number of other awards and honours but they are industry-specific, e.g. she was named best compliance officer by IBLF / E&Y in 2011 - http://iblfrussia.org/news/detail.php?ID=566

I don't think the article needs to be deleted, but in current form it definitely doesn't reflect Mrs. Cherepanova's achievements and overall impact the made in the EU & US compliance industry.

Needs more work. Normalnot (talk) 09:13, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Normalnot. How did you get a Google alert? Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 10:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fancy Refrigerator I have google alerts https://www.google.com/alerts set up for a number of keywords. The one that fired was for this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red - through which I found this discussion. All that said, given my connection to Mrs. Cherepanova I'm probably in violation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COIE and shouldn't be part of this discussion. Normalnot (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Please follow WP:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI to make a conflict of interest disclosure. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 11:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 06:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep [100], [101] and [102] are enough to establish notability. Thus, it has GNG 102.91.77.177 (talk) 09:05, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Those are primary sources. They should not be used to establish notability. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 13:10, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The IPs only contribution to WP... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:39, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 07:43, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 08:56, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The Financial Times source is a letter published by the subject, the rest of the sources are not independent. Svartner (talk) 16:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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