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[edit]- Licence to Grill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Show that fails WP:GNG. No sources found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Abhishek Malhan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NYOUTUBER. No lasting, independent coverage in reliable sources. Purely social media fame WP:NOTPROMO applies. BharatGanguly (talk) 09:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Manisha Rani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources cited are short entertainment writeups, interviews, and tabloid style pieces that lack depth, independence, and sustained coverage. There's a heavy reliance on promotional content, social media mentions, and news aggregators, rather than neutral, in-depth profiles by reliable third-party sources. BharatGanguly (talk) 09:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- The AfD discussion in February 2025 was keep. What has changed since then? DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Elvish Yadav (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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His win in a reality show (Bigg Boss OTT 2) and some online controversies have received temporary media attention, but these do not amount to the kind of sustained, independent coverage needed to demonstrate long-term wiki article. The article also leans promotional in tone, with excessive detail on YouTube milestones and trivial career facts, which goes against WP:NOT and WP:BLP. Being internet famous is not inherently equivalent to being notable by Wiki. BharatGanguly (talk) 08:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I agree with the nominatior that his career is smaller than the controversy section. And doesn’t pass notability. But the given sources suggest he received significant coverage in multiple secondary sources which compound to Wp:GNG. I believe the sources should be checked carefully and evaluated if they really are reliable sources or just puff pieces and. wp:CHURNALISM and Wp:QUESTIONABLE. Zuck28 (talk) 08:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Upon observing this article, I'm not confident about the article blog-style reporting & entertainment coverage lacking editorial oversight. Well, per WP:NYOUTUBER, mere social media popularity and viral fame is insufficient. Notability come from lasting, third-party recognition in RS which is absent here. This is a clear case of WP:NOTPROMO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 08:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom and comment above. Media Mender 📬✍🏻 10:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This is (unfortunately) a close call because he has received a fair amount of media coverage but for all the wrong reasons. As said by folks above, more significant coverage of his "career" is needed per WP:NYOUTUBER, while the reports he received for various acts of shameless self-promotional desperation are numerous but largely WP:CHURNALISM. Gotta admit that he knows how to get fleeting mentions of his name in the tabloids though. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sanjay Passi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable businessman, hardly to find significant coverage. Fails WP:BIO. I'm not totally convinced it meets the notability criteria for individual. B-Factor (talk) 04:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Withdrawn: I am withdrawing my nomination as per WP:6MONTHS. B-Factor (talk) 04:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Shania Yan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject doesn't meet WP:SINGER criteria. I cannot find multiple independent, credible sources on the web. I began trying to remove obviously-bad sources but reverted when I realized I would have stripped the article of basically all citations and I wasn't having luck finding better ones. The sources in the article appear to be promotional articles and almost all of them do not actually match the statements they're supporting:
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Details about her family and early education remain private, as she prefers to keep her personal life out of the public eye | Blog post which does not match what it's supporting in the article, appears to be AI |
Her content often draws inspiration from anime and video games like Genshin Impact, reflecting her personal interests | Blog post which does not match what it's supporting in the article, appears to be AI |
"Her Instagram account, also under @shaniayanofc, has over 2 million followers, where she shares selfies and career-related content" | Two sources: beacons.ai marketing platform, and myCast which is user-generated content |
I'm unable to find credible, independent sources in my Googling. The only thing that comes close is the paper listed as a source in the article. While articles generated through AI are not (to my knowledge) automatic candidates for AfD, it's still worth mentioning that the article itself appears to be mostly just that, and some of the sources' URLs show very clearly that the editor arrived there by ChatGPT (https://beacons.ai/i/blog/shania-yan-bio?utm_source=chatgpt.com
). I don't believe this meets notability per WP:SINGER, and if it does meet notability, I'm not sure how we're going to replace the bad sources if independent, credible ones do not exist. —tonyst (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- C. Constantin Poindexter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO. While the creating editor had every right to move this WP:ADMASQ to mainspace, Pointdexter is a WP:ROTM businessperson. WP:NOTINHERITED seems to apply, too. I chose not to return to draft since I view it as unlikely for notability to be discovered, and no amount of editing can conjure it from nowhere 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 17:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Kieran Sells (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of a person not properly sourced as passing any Wikipedia inclusion criterion. The attempted notability claim here is that he was a production assistant on television talk shows, which is not "inherently" notable without WP:GNG-worthy sourcing for it, but the sole footnote is a directory entry rather than anything that would build GNG.
This was also very likely a self-promotional autobiography, as it was created by a single-purpose account named "PhillyGuy23", while the subject apparently attended Temple University in Philadelphia and would have been exactly 23 years old at the time this got created.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable without much, much better sourcing for it than this. Bearcat (talk) 06:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with nom. A WP:BEFORE targeted search using Jimmy Kimmel and John Carpenter keywords doesn't turn up anything. Amazing that this survived 16 years, with nothing new being added. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 06:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- J.M. Tory (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Biography of a person not properly sourced as passing any Wikipedia inclusion criteron. The only attempt at a notability claim present here at all is that he's related to other people -- but notability is not inherited, so that isn't grounds for a Wikipedia article in and of itself. But there's absolutely no documentation here of him doing anything more than having brothers and sons and nephews, and the only sourcing on offer is from a user-generated genealogy site that doesn't constitute support for notability either. Bearcat (talk) 06:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to James Marshall Tory. Same initials, seems reasonable to me. I haven't dug too deep into the whole Tory family thing yet but it seems to be legitimate and not just a genealogy project, although you're right that this particular Tory doesn't seem to be anything special. MediaKyle (talk) 16:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yao Yuanjun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Typical case of WP:1E; otherwise non-notable. Schwede66 00:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: Event was highly covered and also pretty notable thanks to the Police dog. Subject was notable both in 2011(when he died) and 2021 (when the video of his police dog came out). Thehistorianisaac (talk) 00:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:1E. - Amigao (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep until we have an article about the event. Or just add "Death of" to the title. WP:BIO1E does not suggest deletion, it suggests renaming or merging. We could add "death of" to the title.
- What 1E says is this: 'When an individual is significant for their role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both. In considering whether to create separate articles, the degree of significance of the event itself and of the individual's role within it should both be considered. The general rule is to cover the event, not the person. However, if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified. ... Another issue arises when an individual plays a major role in a minor event. In this case, it is not generally appropriate to have separate articles on the person and the event. Generally in this case, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident, especially if the individual is only notable for that incident and it is all that the person is associated with in the source coverage.'
- Nowhere here suggests deletion. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would also support this, however the subject is also notable in the aspect of the story about his police dog Thehistorianisaac (talk) 03:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Isn't that also kind of about the event though? I oppose deletion in any case. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with your opinion, but the subject gained significant coverage in two separate events which are interlinked:
- In 2011 when he was killed in action(now, this itself would not guarantee notability, but it shows he has been covered for multiple events)
- In 2021 when the CCTV-7 video went viral of his police dog waiting for him.
- Either way, I would support keeping the article. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with your opinion, but the subject gained significant coverage in two separate events which are interlinked:
- Isn't that also kind of about the event though? I oppose deletion in any case. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would also support this, however the subject is also notable in the aspect of the story about his police dog Thehistorianisaac (talk) 03:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep but also support changing the title to include "Death of ...." as this person appears to be primarily notable for the manner of his death. Also the behaviour of his police dog appears notable because of his death and contributes to persistent coverage of the death. As already observed, WP:BIO1E is more about what to write the article about and the article should be about the event, not the person. The article cites a dozen sources, although all are in Chinese. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sanjoy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot find any evidence of notability. Refs are non existent. Page is also written very promotionally Taksoh17 (talk) 21:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:V - between a 404 page for Billboards, and unreliable and sketchy sources, nothing has been verified. Also, producers are so common that we rarely keep them after AfD. Bearian (talk) 03:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Catherine Carter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon search, the subject does not seem to be notable enough per WP:GNG. The current references (specifically, from the Canberra Times) seem to be WP:BLP1E, and the rest seem to be primary sources. The article also seems overly promotional, and it also seems that the article creator has a undisclosed WP:COI with the subject with their edit history. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- weak keep: This is an interview but gives some coverage [1], interview with the National Museum [2], media coverage here [3]. This is another interview but gives background on her [4]. The Canberra Times calls her position with the ACT Property Council as "influential", so I'm inclined to believe she's notable. Gender bias is also notable on Wikipedia and Australia as a whole is under-represented here, so these are also positives. Oaktree b (talk) 19:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- The first source is entirely an interview, and there's no secondary coverage about Carter. The second source you mentioned is primary - it is a podcast. 3rd one is, as said before, WP:BLP1E because she only received notable coverage about herself leaving her job/position at the ACT Property Council. The fourth source is a summary of a podcast with Carter. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Wikipedia is not a free web host for promotional autobiographies. duffbeerforme (talk) 23:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete doesn't have enough reliable sources. The first 2 sources look OK, but the rest are primary or profiles.Darkm777 (talk) 02:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:BIO, also note that 1 article links to this 2009 in poetry. LibStar (talk) 04:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Umair (music producer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. At first glance there appears to be significant coverage but looking closer you will see that most are not bylined, are from unreliable sources, or just routine coverage or mentions. CNMall41 (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep – Umair meets WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. His 2024 album Rockstar Without a Guitar peaked at #8 on Spotify Pakistan and was featured in Genius Community’s 25 Best Albums of 2024 (ThePrint). His single “Asli Hai” topped YouTube Pakistan charts (Music Metrics Vault). Covered by reliable sources like Samaa TV, ThePrint, Wordplay Magazine, and Itz Hip Hop. Producer for notable duo Young Stunners. Meets NMUSIC via charting work, media coverage, and national significance.
— Behappyyar (talk) 15:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- NMUSICIAN would not be met based on charting. Spotify and YouTube are not acceptable under WP:CHART. Also, being a producer for someone notable does not come with inherent notability. Can you address the non-bylined references? Do you feel these are reliable and if so how? For WP:GNG, you are also cited press releases above which can never be used for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @CNMall41 While it’s true that WP:CHART places limits on YouTube/Spotify data for standalone notability, those indicators support broader cultural relevance under WP:NMUSIC#1 and WP:GNG. Chart placements help demonstrate impact in the absence of traditional charts in South Asia, where mainstream media often lags behind independent or digital-first musicians.
- NMUSICIAN would not be met based on charting. Spotify and YouTube are not acceptable under WP:CHART. Also, being a producer for someone notable does not come with inherent notability. Can you address the non-bylined references? Do you feel these are reliable and if so how? For WP:GNG, you are also cited press releases above which can never be used for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding sources:
- Samaa TV and ThePrint are independent, professional outlets with editorial oversight and journalistic standards. These are not self-published or fan-driven and are widely accepted as RS in other music-related AfDs.
- The Itz Hip Hop review is bylined and analytical, not promotional; it contains critical assessment of Umair’s production and album structure.
- The Wordplay Magazine article, while regional, is independent and contains critical evaluation — see similar RS used in AfDs for artists in UK/India-Pak context.
- I accept that the ANI press release cannot count toward WP:GNG, but it was cited for factual support of chart placements, not to satisfy notability directly.
- Notability isn’t only about headlining credits. Umair is the primary producer behind Rebirth and Open Letter, two of the most discussed hip-hop albums in Pakistan — both critically reviewed in RS and recognized in independent retrospectives. His influence is creative and structural, meeting WP:NMUSIC#2 (“significant contribution to the work of others that is covered in reliable sources”).
— Behappyyar (talk) 06:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Playing a major role in major works proves notability. Could you give more info on the part he played and on the notability of those albums? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not to forget: Talha Anjum's most famous song Kaun Talha? in which he diss an Indian rapper Naezy was produced by Umair. [1] Behappyyar (talk) 15:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @(Itzcuauhtli11) He served as the lead producer and co-composer on both Rebirth (2017) and Open Letter (2023), two landmark Urdu hip-hop albums in Pakistan.
- On Rebirth, Umair produced all 15 tracks for Young Stunners, a duo considered foundational to Pakistani rap. The album is credited with shaping the Urdu hip-hop scene and received wide media attention from outlets like SAMAA TV.[2]
- These albums are not just popular but culturally significant, marking key points in the evolution of Pakistani hip-hop. Umair’s complete production involvement and critical coverage of these albums demonstrate a major creative role in notable works, satisfying WP:NMUSIC#2 and strengthening his case under WP:GNG. [5]
- Khole Piza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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References fail WP:SIRS so article fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Skitash (talk) 15:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Idk why my csd was removed for no reason but I still support its deletion 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for now. There is a lack of significant coverage in reliable and independent references that demonstrate the notability. Fade258 (talk) 16:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO Halley luv Filipino ❤ (Talk) 00:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Daniel Allen Cohen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The only reliable source is a former Forbes contributor (both of the Forbes articles were written by the same lady). The rest are not reliable sources. (Note that Yahoo is a syndication of LatestLY, which is WP:NEWSORGINDIA). 🄻🄰 15:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - per lack of WP:GNG. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oyomevotu Obada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:ROTM businessperson., Fails WP:BIO. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 00:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Also checked BBC nothing notable
- Czarking0 (talk) 01:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. Fails the GNG. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: fails WP:NBUSINESSPERSON and WP:GNG. Nothing much to establish notability. King ChristLike (talk) 09:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:GNG Halley luv Filipino ❤ (Talk) 10:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for now. Does not appears to meet business person. I did not found significant coverage in reliable and independent references as well. Fade258 (talk) 16:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete not notable, WP:TOOSOON. Secondary and significant coverage is lacking. [5], [6] only these two news coverage available in simple google search. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Article creator has a history of promotional edits. Deb (talk) 08:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Terry Martin (philanthropist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies (ANYBIO) Old-AgedKid (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and promotes his works with puffery (Wikipedia:NOTPROMO) --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 17:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Agreed. I searched for more coverage, but haven't found anything significant. Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- delete does not meet WP:GNG, a lot of the coverage is about the nonprofit and not about him. --hroest 17:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ali Mahmoud (military officer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:BIO1E, this figure has only received coverage due to one event which he didn't have a significant role in, and likely wouldn't have been deemed notable enough to warrant a separate article (which is reflected in the article's rather small size and detail). Farcazo (talk) 22:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Tulsi Bhagat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable person, we've been through this discussion numerous times elsewhere. Tulsi is not a notable person as an "activist" nor a Wikipedian, and this article conveniently leaves out their block and ban on this very project, for paid editing, among other things, which was only reversed 4 months ago. There are not generally "founders" of individual projects on Wikimedia - and all of the sources are either unreliable or nonsense. COOLIDICAE🕶 21:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, some several Nepali-language reliable sources are translated into English for headlines as mentioned on Wikipedia:
- "जनकपुरका 'तुलसी भगत' जसले विश्वव्यापी सम्मानबाट मधेश र देशको शान बढाए" [Janakpur's 'Tulsi Bhagat', who brought global respect to Madhesh and the country]. NewsBureau Nepal (in Nepali). 5 February 2021.
- Joshi, Yagyaraj (13 February 2021). "मैथिली विकिपिडिया स्थापना गरेर जो विश्वका १८ योगदानकर्ताभित्र छानिए" [Selected among 18 contributors around the world who established Maithili Wikipedia]. Nepal Khabar (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 April 2025.
- Tharu, Bunu (25 January 2021). "जनकपुरका युवा जसले मैथिली विकिपिडियाको सुरुवात गरे" [Youth from Janakpur who started Maithili Wikipedia]. Kantipur Publications (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 January 2025.
- Kamal, KC (15 February 2021). "मैथिली विकिपिडियाका संस्थापक २१ वर्षिय नेपाली युवा, जो विश्वका टप १८ योगदानकर्तामा छानिए" [The founder of Maithili Wikipedia is a 21-year-old Nepali youth who has been selected as one of the top 18 contributors in the world]. ICT Samachar (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 January 2025.
- Bista, Kamal (24 January 2021). "२१ वर्षीय तुलसीको मैथिली विक्सनरी सपना" [21 year old Tulsi’s Maithili Wiktionary dream]. Farakdhar (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 January 2025.</ref><ref name="Kamal">Kamal, KC (15 February 2021). "मैथिली विकिपिडियाका संस्थापक २१ वर्षिय नेपाली युवा, जो विश्वका टप १८ योगदानकर्तामा छानिए" [The founder of Maithili Wikipedia is a 21-year-old Nepali youth who has been selected as one of the top 18 contributors in the world]. ICT Samachar (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 January 2025.
- Kamal, KC (15 February 2021). "मैथिली विकिपिडियाका संस्थापक २१ वर्षिय नेपाली युवा, जो विश्वका टप १८ योगदानकर्तामा छानिए" [The founder of Maithili Wikipedia is a 21-year-old Nepali youth who has been selected as one of the top 18 contributors in the world]. ICT Samachar (in Nepali). Retrieved 20 January 2025.
- Absolutiva (talk) 21:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- You mean all of the clearly copy-pasted press-release equivalent sources? Sure. COOLIDICAE🕶 21:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, just reliable news sources. So I decided to rewrite text so that it signifies the subject is notable and remains to exist on Wikipedia as a standalone article. Absolutiva (talk) 22:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I rewrite the text per request. (edit conflict) I added notable details in the article. Absolutiva (talk) 22:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. COOLIDICAE🕶 22:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, just reliable news sources. So I decided to rewrite text so that it signifies the subject is notable and remains to exist on Wikipedia as a standalone article. Absolutiva (talk) 22:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- You mean all of the clearly copy-pasted press-release equivalent sources? Sure. COOLIDICAE🕶 21:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete for mostly the same reasons the nominator mentions. I don't trust any of the "sources" that are used to claim Tulsi is notable given this user has a very long history of UPE. --SHB2000 (talk) 08:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I rarely comment on AFDs but given past history of Tulsi these sources presented by Absolutiva do not convince. I too share UPE concerns given these comments.--A09|(talk) 11:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- A biased article (regarding the undisclosed block) can be fixed, and I think the wording issues (eg "founder") can be attributed to language barriers. The problem I see is more that out of the five sources cited, only one of them appears to be sufficiently major for it to have its own Wikipedia article (Kantipur Publications) - the other four are non-notable at best. I do not know whether such an article can be "saved" or not. Leaderboard (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and salt Just another episode in the long-running endeavour by various individuals to leverage their Wikimedia experience and goodwill for money, fame and career. There's no meat here. Sources are not independent, reliable or significant. Also fails 1E. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and salt the same stuff keeps on appearing once a few years. I am very against writing articles about Wikipedia editors. Its just milking at this point. shame बडा काजी (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – This individual clearly does not meet Wikipedia notability standards. Drdpw (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hamidreza Ghorbani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. Attempted to draftify but OP recreated it in mainspace. It was noted this was the "english" version so I looked at Wikidata and it appears there is a mass posting campaign across many languages. CNMall41 (talk) 21:37, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Tony Rotherham (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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PROD'ed by User:NuanceQueen for the following reason;
Subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There are no secondary sources available; all the ones linked here are dead links. Article repeats language used on the subject's promotional websites, which suggests WP:BLPCOI issues. A previous WP:PROD was opposed by individuals with a personal connection to the subject who willfully misconstrued Wikipedia's anti-promotional rules. (proposed by NuanceQueen)
Article has previously been at AfD so cannot be Prodded but I wholeheartedly agree with the Prod nomination so listing here as courtesy. CoconutOctopus talk 20:20, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. The last AfD for this article was 17 years ago, and since then little to no references have been added. Madeleine (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Jan Zarzycki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed Draftification; WP:DRAFTOBJECT applies. Fails WP:NPROF. In an AFC review this was stated: "According to https://ludzie.nauka.gov.pl/ln/profiles/QAO46PMcoxU/publications he has a total of 8 publications; Scopus says 21 with 104 citations. This is far short of what we require to pass WP:NPROF. Note that being a Department Chair or Dean does not qualify him either." by Ldm1954, with whom I agree. This is WP:ADMASQ 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 20:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. BLP created almost simultaneously in the English and Polish Wikipedias. At least for the English Wikipedia, he falls far short of satisfying any of WP:NPROF with a decidedly modest h-factor, publication record and no major awards. Originator (who uses two accounts, albeit acknowledging this) argued first that he passes WP:NPROF#C1, then changed it to a pass of WP:NPROF#C6 when he moved the page back to main after draftification. This despite an AfC comment that Dean's don't qualify and about publication history (subsequently removed by Laura240406 as AfC cleanup, but still there in the history). No attempt to repair other deficiencies to the article which are clearly tagged. While novice editors should have some leeway, it is not appropriate for them to make up their own interpretation of WP:NPROF.Ldm1954 (talk) 20:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom Laura240406 (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The citation record on Google Scholar is difficult to separate from a different biologist with the same name but I agree that he appears to pass neither WP:PROF#C1 nor #C6, and we don't have any evidence or claim for any other notability criterion. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein we don't have any evidence or claim for any other notability criterion, in this regard, kindly see my comments below. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: In Poland, the President grants the academic title of Professor. This is a significant academic achievement, often awarded to individuals who have made substantial contributions to their field of study. This is a definite WP:NPROF #2 and #4 pass and I think if a source can be provided in this regard, then this can be kept. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Per my comment above, this source (see PDF) confirms it and this conferment is a clear NPROF#2 as being a "highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national level". Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I am not convinced by the argument brought forward regarding WP:NPROF. With regards to NPROF#1, his Scopus profile shows 21 total publications and a h index of 7 (note that there are at least 6 people publishing under the same name but I checked the publications and it seems Scopus has properly distinguished them). Based on his citation record, I conclude that he doesnt pass #1. With regards to NPROF#6 there is no evidence he held a post beyond Dean which does not fulfill #6. With regards to the document that Vanderwaalforces presented, I translated it and it seems to be the appointment to the post of "professor", this is however *not* what NPROF#2 is intended - these are major awards from academic societies or general awards like Fields Medals, Nobel prizes etc. One could argue that this may fulfill NPROF#5 since this is an appointment that (probably) not all professors get and is thus equivalent to a distinguished professorship at a US university and he thus he passes the "average professor test" since he is elevated beyond the "average professor". To me that is the strongest argument of all the ones I evaluated. However, I dont know enough about the academic structure in the country but I dont see enough evidence that this is indeed such an unusual occurrence to grant notability *on its own* in the presence of a weak citation record. In totality, both the content of the article and the additional arguments presented here have not convinced me that this a person that passes WP:NPROF. --hroest 17:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Hannes Röst criterion #2 didn't just mention awards, it says "award or honor", and FWIW, it clearly, by all means, and by all interpretation, passes #2. This is a country's highest and significant academic achievement we're talking about here, and the source that backs it up is a government ministry's site. What more do we need? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces There is some clarification in the section below that specifies "Examples may include certain awards, honors and prizes of notable academic societies, of notable foundations and trusts" which I interpret as different from an official promotion. A named award or fellowship that is open to any researcher on a national level is different than what you describe which is more like a "distinguished promotion" within the ranks of academia that only some achieve. As I said, promotion to full professor more likely falls under NPROF#5 with "The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution [...] or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon. " which could be a fair argument to make but I dont see enough evidence for this (neither the "major institution" nor that this is equivalent to a distinguished professor at say Stanford/MIT/Yale ...). --hroest 13:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Hannes Röst criterion #2 didn't just mention awards, it says "award or honor", and FWIW, it clearly, by all means, and by all interpretation, passes #2. This is a country's highest and significant academic achievement we're talking about here, and the source that backs it up is a government ministry's site. What more do we need? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Weak keepComment. His article will remain on pl wiki, which considers habilitation sufficent for notability. I know en wiki does not. Interesting discrepancy, but that's wiki for you. I cannot find any other reasons to argue for keeping him, under en wiki rules (the claim that his book is an "important contributions" is cited to a routine government document justifying his promotion to the rank of professor and is in fact FAKE, since that document does not provide any justification - that falsificaiton of content made me withdraw my keep vote, since it is dishonest), although he does have the next "higher" level of academic degree (above) habilitaiton, i.e. the professor (as noted by Vanderwaalforces). Frankly, I'd support traeting that level as granting notability, but that's seems to be a dissenting view. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)- @Piotrus is it fake? Ah. Please point me or rather direct me to where you made the conclusion from? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces "are important contributions" is footnoted to [7]; that's just gov't document stating he (and some other folks) got the title of professor, but it contains no justification. That's sloppy writing at best, and in practice, improper use of sources. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus I'm sorry to be asking too much questions, lol, but I need to be clearer; What do you mean by it contains no justification though?
- FWIW, I think that if the highest academic "honor" (and not "award" in this case) is the President granting them the title of Professor, then that clearly satisfies criterion #2 from my viewpoint. I just feel most times, we're not consistent with our interpretation of notability guidelines and this might be increasing the systemic bias some of us are trying to reduce. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces "are important contributions" is footnoted to [7]; that's just gov't document stating he (and some other folks) got the title of professor, but it contains no justification. That's sloppy writing at best, and in practice, improper use of sources. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus is it fake? Ah. Please point me or rather direct me to where you made the conclusion from? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ted Junker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has been orphaned for more than a year; the main subject is of the memorial that never happened, not the person himself. Does not meet WP:BIO LR.127 (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Slavik Pustovoytov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT. Social media popularity and a minor film role aren't enough for notability. Mooonswimmer 17:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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Delete. No notable contributions to social media culture. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 17:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Madeleine (talk) 21:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Peter Chee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Still fails WP:GNG as refs don't pass WP:SIRS. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Shaoul Sassoon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article appears to be a BLP failing WP:GNG, lacking significant coverage. The sources listed are primary (1-7) or passing (8). A pretty substantial search turned up nothing covering this individual. Garsh (talk) 01:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- The sources which i provided are this man's own interviews. and its very important article with regards to History of the Jews in Iraq Kharbaan Ghaltaan (talk) 09:53, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- That is a problem though, interviews are primary sources and do not show notability. -- NotCharizard 🗨 11:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- What else can I do then. This article is very important article with regards to History of the Jews in Iraq under Saddam Hussein Kharbaan Ghaltaan (talk) 16:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- That is a problem though, interviews are primary sources and do not show notability. -- NotCharizard 🗨 11:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. I quickly found this article in Israel's newspaper of record. It's about Sassoon and about the organization that interviewed him. Haven't made up my mind yet. gidonb (talk) 16:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- This article seems to be more about the organization that interviewed Sassoon and Saddam's regime, not necessarily Sassoon himself. I'm not sure that a two paragraph mention in an article about a related topic counts as significant coverage. Garsh (talk) 17:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's a beginning. If others want to continue the search, they can! gidonb (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Veer Kataria (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks notability. Not a single independent coverage about the subject. Few press release and rest are primary sources. Rahmatula786 (talk) 04:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Completely a non-notable article with no reliable news sources.Almandavi (talk) 05:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Lacks notability, no reliable sources. Halley luv Filipino ❤ (Talk) 13:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Absolutely non-notable. Doesn’t satisfy any notability criteria. All sources are unreliable.
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- Delete— article uses only promotional paid articles published on low-quality websites. EmilyR34 (talk) 13:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Miles Routledge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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If not WP:BLP1E, then WP:BLP1E-adjacent. Was in the news once because he went to Kabul in August of 2021, and again because he went back to Afghanistan in 2023 and got arrested.
He is listed as an author but the only source I can find on the internet about him writing a book mentions it in passing. Having 171,000 subscribers on YouTube is probably not enough to meet notability requirements on its own.
I don't think this meets WP:N. —tonyst (talk) 01:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The article is definitely not a WP:BLP1E, since as you say, there are at least two notable events -- two being a different and larger number than one, and explicitly not the focus of this policy. There is not a "WP:BLP2E" policy. Without even doing a WP:BEFORE search, in the currently-existing article there are a variety of sources that satisfy WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV:
- Wallen, Joe; Sabur, Rozina (2023-04-01). "British self-styled 'danger tourist' captured by Taliban secret police". The Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 2023-04-02.
- "Tourist stranded in Kabul says he has 'no regrets' in Afghanistan collapse". NZ Herald. 2 November 2023.
- "British College Student 'Lord Miles' Claims He's Stuck in Afghanistan". Vice. 16 August 2021.
- Hardy, Jack (August 16, 2021). "British student stuck in Kabul after 'danger tourism' stunt backfires". The Telegraph.
- "'If I die, It'll be funny I think': A student named 'Lord Miles' is live streaming from Afghanistan after getting 'stuck'". The Daily Dot. August 16, 2021.
- Ball, Tom (August 15, 2021). "British student on holiday in Afghanistan 'accepts death'". The Times. Archived from the original on August 15, 2021. Retrieved August 15, 2021.
- "UK student who travelled to Afghanistan for holiday evacuated". BBC News. 2021-08-17. Retrieved 2021-08-17.
- "Two of three British men being held by Taliban allowed call to families". BBC. April 2, 2023. Archived from the original on April 2, 2023.
- Looking him up on a web search, I see that he was also in the news last year, apparently for going on some sort of bigoted tirade on Twitter (see [8], [9], [10]). While I do not think acting like a racist knob on the Internet is noble or worthy of celebration, the man would seem to clearly meet our notability guidelines. jp×g🗯️ 01:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:BLP1E. Gamaliel (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I appreciate that it is galling that a self-aggrandising twit like this can make himself notable just by being a nuisance but if he has done so then we have to accept that it is valid to have an article about him. He seems to be over the line for notability even if not by much. A greater concern is what we are not saying about him. His book is published by a neo-Nazi publisher but there is nothing about his links to the far-right in the article. Maybe this can help? That links him to Andrew Tate and covers his praise for the Taliban. There are also plausibly RS sources talking about his idiotic "jokes" about nuking India here, here and possibly also here although that last one seems to be region blocked for me. Finally, I don't think that we should be giving his full name as "Miles Arthur Le-Vesconte Routledge" when the source is clearly sceptical of that (and might not even be RS) saying "Miles (who also calls himself Miles Arthur Le-vesconte Routledge)". --DanielRigal (talk) 19:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:BLP1E, not once but twice. Self aggrandising publicity seekers do not have notability. Notoriety s not the same thing at all. Fails WP:BIO / WP:GNG 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 23:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: Two times one is not one. jp×g🗯️ 22:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @JPxG yet it was basically the same thing, repeated. In this case that doesn't make two either. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 10:27, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: Two times one is not one. jp×g🗯️ 22:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The article is a legitimate biography encapsulating different aspects of life, including a businessman, an explorer, and an imprisonment. I don't see the urgency to delete the article, I feel the request is bias. Cltjames (talk) 15:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per the research provided by jpxg. Meets GNG. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Andreas Skotidas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference currently in the article is Olympedia, which is not a IRS, and all I could find elsewhere were mentions. Let'srun (talk) 23:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Greece at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Fencing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 05:08, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Greece at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Fencing: No SIGCOV. Not notable enough to merit his own article. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 00:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
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That's biograme is merely sourced, it's known that he works as journalist that's all there no reasons for meeting notability guidelines The Wolak (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Obviously AI generated article not in encyclopedic tone. It reads very promotional and puffery. Subject might be notable, but this is not an acceptable article. RoseCherry64 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Looking at the main editors contributions, I see several good articles and even a featured article. Yet, this really reads to me like an obvious example of AI generated text which confuses me. I don't want to accuse a productive and experienced editor of using AI, so I really apologize if that's not the case. Sources are pretty poor and some seem entirely unrelated to the text it describes, like the opinion piece from Defector describing him highly negatively used as a reference on the sentence "His content often delves into the real-life events and legal troubles of musicians, presenting a blend of music journalism and cultural commentary." RoseCherry64 (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am really not even sure how to address this tbh, but no, it is not AI written. I use grammarly often to sort out better sentences structure. In your defence, someone once told that only AI uses the word "delve". Feel free to check the factuality for each sentence using the inline sources, so you can be sure that: The article does not include hallucinated information or fictitious references. As for copyright violation, use Earwig.
- Anyway, AfD are normally based on policies, so you need to indicate in your nom the policy that you think this article is violating. Have a read through Wikipedia:Deletion policy and if you change your mind, you can withdraw the nom.
- Also please when you tag an article, it is better to add more details in the page talk so editors know what to fix. Good luck FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- To respond to the above, and while I will believe you on not writing the entire article with AI, it has the exact same non-encyclopedic tone of AI. If I would ask a LLM to write an article, I would get an indistinguishable result in prose. I do believe the article contains citations that do not match the actual sentences. Another example is the sentence "He also delves into the evolution of hip-hop culture, and the intricate relationships between rap music and broader societal issues" is completely unrelated to the two citations, one which seems to just be a page with an embedded video? If he has covered the evolution of hip-hop culture, the source does not explain it.
- I did not explicitly link anything but my reason for nomination is WP:ATD-E "If an article on a notable topic severely fails the verifiability or neutral point of view policies, it may be reduced to a stub, or completely deleted by consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion". I am not arguing against the notability about this person, only that the quality of the article is so poor that it's not worth keeping in this state, especially considering it's a biography of a living person. RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:50, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Btw when you say “ Another example is the sentence” you know you are talking about the same example?
- I replied below to your accusation of fictitious citation. FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just passing by, but Grammarly uses AI now so that is likely why it might appear AI-generated. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- The sources at the end of that sentence says:
- “ Up next for TLR ... deep dives into NBA YoungBoy and Quando Rondo. Who knows, there may be one of Boosie too!!!”
- “ You don't need to watch more than a few minutes of any of Trap Lore Ross's work to understand the register at which he's operating. “ the article continues to describe what he does
- so I am not sure how you are not able to verify the sentence. It doesn’t need to be verbatim or paraphrased from the article. FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- I brought up two different sentences that do not have truthful citations. I will go through them in detail, since you seem to be confused.
- "He also delves into the evolution of hip-hop culture, and the intricate relationships between rap music and broader societal issues."
- No source mentions him covering "the evolution of hip-hop culture". It is entirely possible that he has done this, but it's not sourced.
- "His content often delves into the real-life events and legal troubles of musicians, presenting a blend of music journalism and cultural commentary."
- Indeed, the Defector source has the text "You don't need to watch more than a few minutes of any of Trap Lore Ross's work to understand the register at which he's operating.", but it's preceded and followed by a extremely negative opinion on this person. The source argues that people like him are "provocateurs" and their work is a form of cultural "exploitation". The author is basically arguing that he what he does is more akin to "exploitation" than "cultural commentary". RoseCherry64 (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- The sources at the end of that sentence says:
- Delete: I don't see GNG, source 2 is a RS, it mentions the person... 5 and 7 are the only other RS, that briefly mention this person, mostly re-quoting TMZ or talking about a documentary this person made. I can't find any sources either, these are all TMZ or other gossip sites. Oaktree b (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- So you looked to the sources in the article and found one is RS and dismissed TMZ? Why? Looking to WP:PRS, it doesn’t not dismiss TMZ + notability is not decided by the sources in the article as the article was not updated since 2024. If you look now all these are sources about the person:
- FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- TMZ is not a reliable source, low quality at best. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TMZ&redirect=no. I would prefer a better site. Oaktree b (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- fair enough FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- TMZ is not a reliable source, low quality at best. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TMZ&redirect=no. I would prefer a better site. Oaktree b (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: In the comments the nominator is not contesting the topic notability but first started by saying the text is AI like, then moved to saying that the prose quality is so bad that the page need to be deleted. Changing the goal post makes this nom really hard to address but going by typical AfD noms:
- notability is met in the article and more sources can be found outside the article
- accusations of using AI to write the article is not a cause to delete an article (you can take to me to ANI or the village for discussion), and
- the prose is excellent, every line is sourced, grammatically sound and the text can be understood.
FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- "the text is AI like, then moved to saying that the prose quality is so bad that the page need to be deleted"
- These mean the same thing. AI-like text is just a specific form of poor prose. I am not moving any goalposts. WP:TNT mentions that articles that could meet notability requirements are routinely deleted for being poor quality such that an entire rewrite from a red link would be preferable to having a blue link.
- The prose is not "excellent" (as it reads like AI prose), a text being understandable does not mean that it's encyclopedic in tone. RoseCherry64 (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- which part is not encloypedic, your argument is about style, not susbtance, which not a cause for deletion
- Which part of WP:TNT are you alluding to?
- To be honest, if you look to the comments no one is paying attention to your nom. Which is good becuase your nom does not have legs. FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete per lack of reliable sources and what Oaktree b wrote. TMZ is one of those unreliable sources that turn out to be reliable sometimes: it's produced by a guy whose tag line is "I'm a lawyer." AI has its uses. Bearian (talk) 03:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Andrea Della Valle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of wp:SIGCOV and fails Wp:GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - WP:NOTPROMO. One more business man who tells us what he has, but not how he got there. Honorary degree, honorary citizenship. He's a billionaire and "vice-chairman of the Tod's Group, of which his brother Diego Della Valle is chairman." So what? — Maile (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Lacks sources and fails notability guidelines. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 18:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - hilariously bad puff piece. Bearian (talk) 03:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ebenezer Wikina (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources made up of interview, primary source and passing mentions thereby failing WP:GNG Mekomo (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Delete. - Fails WP:JOURNALIST and no secondary sources. --ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 18:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Delete: fails WP:GNG King ChristLike (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Emir Üyar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted and salted at Emir Uyar... still doesn't seem to have significant coverage with most publications writing about his relationship with Adriana Lima. Hmr (talk) 09:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete: Obvious blatant circumvention of salt. Aintabli (talk) 20:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I support salting this too for obvious reasons. Aintabli (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most sources are just passing mentions or about retirement or Chief, more in-depth sources needed or nomination will not be withdrawn. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:48, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, I would like to address that this was not retaliation, if this was, you would have seen much larger amounts of AfDs seen as "escalation" and the AfDs may not even have a clear reason, second: This page is covered by only passing mentions, please add more information and that is what I am asking, I will withdraw my nomination if you give a good reason to keep. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Md. Abul Kashem Mia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Passing mentions only, need evidence for WP:SIGCOV and WP:Three. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia is not a directory also, not every person deserves a article unless their contributions are detailed and in-depth sources, even 1, must be cited, not just name but also birth, birth place, education and position in work/jobs. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, I would like to address that this was not retaliation, if this was, you would have seen much larger amounts of AfDs seen as "escalation" and the AfDs may not even have a clear reason, second: This page is covered by only passing mentions, please add more information and that is what I am asking, I will withdraw my nomination if you give a good reason to keep. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Mohammad Ejaz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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More reliable sources needed, violates WP:RS unless proven then i will withdraw nomination. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 16:30, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Withdraw - This can be Keep on the source mentioned.([11]]) Dv24mail (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment- Please note a potential retaliation issue: after my deletion nomination of Kishore Kantho under WP:NMAG, User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet promptly nominated three of my articles—Mohammad Ejaz, Md. Matiur Rahman Sheikh, and Md. Abul Kashem Mia—for deletion. Such retalion is generally discouraged and undermines the assumption of good faith (WP:AGF). Deletion proposals must address content, not serve as personal reprisals (WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND). I urge uninvolved editors to judge each nomination on its own merits and remain alert to any pattern of WP:POINT.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, I would like to address that this was not retaliation, if this was, you would have seen much larger amounts of AfDs seen as "escalation" and the AfDs may not even have a clear reason, second: This page is covered by only passing mentions, please add more information and that is what I am asking, I will withdraw my nomination if you give a good reason to keep, plus most sources are about passing mentions anyways, if articles with somewhat in-depth sources are deleted, then articles with just passing mentions will also surely be deleted. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pinky Rajput (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All sources are unreliable. An article in Indian Express is dead link. Non notable. Afstromen (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment This is an abandoned article which was created in 2012. Notability tag which was inserted in 2013 shows that there is no new coverage about the topic. But her work as a voice-dubbing artist is impressive. AndySailz (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete for now. I found that her work as a dubbing artist is good but there isn't any significant coverage about her in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This article lacks notable coverage, despite being working as a dubbing artist for a lot of work, and even the first citation of Indian Express is dead.Almandavi (talk) 05:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kishore Bhatt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Absolutely non notable Afstromen (talk) 10:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Though his extensive career as a voice-dubbing artist but still fails to pass the notability standards due to the lack of significant coverage about him in reliable and independent references. Fade258 (talk) 02:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I concur that he has accomplished much as a voice-dubbing artist; yet, it still does not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - working dub actor, but ultimately run of the mill. Bearian (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It fails notability because no significant coverage in independent sources, not even a single organic news reference is there.Almandavi (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Amar Babaria (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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He has only one news source (Tribune). Filmography is totally unsourced. No significant news coverage. Afstromen (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails to show WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as well as WP:NACTOR. Fade258 (talk) 08:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Subject lacks reliable sources that are in-depth. and fails WP: GNG and WP: NACTOR. Pasados (talk) 13:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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He doesn’t have significant news sources. His filmography is totally unsourced. Non notable in my point of view, please share your thoughts on this. Afstromen (talk) 10:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Mustafa Adedeji Tukur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO. Likely UPE 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 08:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:NACADEMIC, WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It is not satisfying WP:SIGCOV, and it fails WP:NBIO or WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 03:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No indication of notability under either WP:PROF or WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly not notable. Deb (talk) 08:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Doar family (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Long-time orphan with severe lack of footnotes and content demonstrating notability. How this had not been AfDed successfully before is beyond me. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:21, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak delete - I found a few sources here and there but not quite WP:SIGCOV. Bearian (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - and hoping someone picks up the writing on the article. The Doar family appears to have been one of the more successful and prominent families and plantation owners in the American south. If you do a Google search for Doar Plantation, there are a lot of returns on that search. If you, can open this: https://schistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Doar-Middleton-Family-papers-1247.0.pdf There apparently are their NRHP properties also in multiple places. :Also see: Stephen D. Doar papers, 1807-1898 The issue is getting someone to write it Wikipedia style. — Maile (talk) 03:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Mentions, interviews, and unreliable sources (mainly WP:NEWSORGINDIA) is all I can find. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. CNMall41 (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Ashish Kumar (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article doesn’t have even a single source. I checked on google for this actor and there is not even a single reliable source available. Absolutely non notable in my point of view. Afstromen (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This unreferenced article indicates the weak references that do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. AndySailz (talk) 03:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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Subject fails NPOL and sources are insufficient to satisfy the requirements for GNG (independent, reliable, and substantial coverage). Some are interviews (not even with the subject), while others are election results from unsuccessful candidacy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:59, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Thankyou for the discussion, my argument for keeping the article as is, is as follows:
- In the NPOL guidelines under the subheading Politicians and judges, it includes politicians who are quote "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage." Further in this point's explanatory note (8) it states "...A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." Slaughter as a local Welsh politician has indeed gained independent news feature stories about him. Here are links to several of them:
- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50368944
- https://nation.cymru/news/anthony-slaughter-re-elected-as-leader-of-wales-green-party/
- https://www.penarthtimes.co.uk/news/10945089.penarths-anthony-slaughter-elected-deputy-leader-of-welsh-green-party/
- Further here are two articles BBC News articles whereby he is mentioned in passing because he is the leader of the Wales Green Party (non-feature articles):
- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56644323
- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2520dndy6o
- Best, Flare Flarehayr (talk) 16:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Johannes Hoffmeister (philosopher) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability assessment Xpander (talk) 12:40, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Xpander1, you have created this article as a translation of the de.wiki article and then you yourself have nominated it for deletion 3 minutes later, with this "Notability assessment" rationale. I am not understanding what you are seeking to accomplish by these steps and such a non-specific rationale? AllyD (talk) 19:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Provisional Keep until rationale for deletion is advanced. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:45, 17 May 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: I just had translated the page, that it got blanked here by User:Onel5969 (on notability and verifiability grounds), therefore I thought I'd bring the page here so that it's better assessed by reliable consensus. If this rationale is not sufficient, then I would be happy to withdraw the nomination. Xpander (talk) 10:11, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- So based on this, we have two articles, the original Johannes Hoffmeister on which the article text was reverted, and this new Johannes Hoffmeister (philosopher) which was created to open this discussion. A bit messy, but the AFD rationale is effectively then Onel5969's comment on the other article "Restore redirect - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show they pass WP:GNG. Also, zero sources to satisfy WP:VERIFY". AllyD (talk) 06:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:ACADEMIC 1.c. as per the festschrift Johannes Hoffmeister zum Gedächtnis (1956). Jahaza (talk) 05:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I made Johannes Hoffmeister a disambig, but the philosopher is probably the primary topic, at least for now. Jahaza (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems to be a significant figure in Hegel scholarship, overseeing some enormous works (his work was apparently also important for non-German-reading Hegel scholars). There's biographical discussion (in German) in this article. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: A history merge is surely appropriate here... Josh Milburn (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- @J Milburn, thanks for providing the new sources. I've added those to the article. By WP:HISTMERGE do you suggest that the page-history would be merged with Johannes Hoffmeister (currently a disambiguation page)? If so histmerge suggests that in case that "only one editor has written all of the content" a histmerge is not necessary. What's more is that the aforementioned page was originally created as a redirect to Hans Hoffmeister (water polo) which is a totally different topic, that content-wise is also not relevant. Best. Xpander (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, fair enough -- I'd misunderstood the situation! Josh Milburn (talk) 11:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @J Milburn, thanks for providing the new sources. I've added those to the article. By WP:HISTMERGE do you suggest that the page-history would be merged with Johannes Hoffmeister (currently a disambiguation page)? If so histmerge suggests that in case that "only one editor has written all of the content" a histmerge is not necessary. What's more is that the aforementioned page was originally created as a redirect to Hans Hoffmeister (water polo) which is a totally different topic, that content-wise is also not relevant. Best. Xpander (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Deaftify. Independent of an notability this is far short of the requirements for sourcing. Currently it reads like an essay as well. It needs a complete rewtite. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Doesn't appear to be independently notable from her husband or father-in-law. ―Howard • 🌽33 09:29, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Notable only from Husband and inlaws fails WP:BASIC Destinyokhiria (talk) 10:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Family of Joe Biden, or any other appropriate target. Not in the least notable. Bearian (talk) 21:26, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Liaan Ferreira (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article has been flagged for multiple issues starting in November 2024 without improvement. Having performed a WP:BEFORE I an unable to find references that show that they pass WP:NACTOR. Awards are stated in the article as facts, most are unreferenced. I have examined 100% of the current references and find that none contribute to WP:V of WP:BIO, and I have flagged those I found wanting. My conclusion is that they are decent actor, but a jobbing, WP:ROTM actor, and that we are WP:TOOSOON in their career. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 08:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Angus Taylor (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary disambiguation page. Only two people with an article with a primary topic. The other two listed are a non notable musician and a non notable character. Servite et contribuere (talk) 07:54, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Not all DAB entries need to be articles themselves. It is plausible that someone searching for "Angus Taylor" might mean either the Magic Gang musician or the Halloween character, so merely hatnoting between Angus Taylor and Angus Ellis Taylor would be insufficient. That said, the Halloween character link should be through a redirect to section per MOS:DABREDIR. I'll do that. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 10:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Tamzin. Preimage (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep dab with four valid entries (one without his own bluelink but nevertheless passing WP:DABMENTION). —David Eppstein (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 20:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep this valid and useful page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pucky Ali (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage in reliable sources. His work is also non notable. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. I have checked on google for this actor and found nothing reliable. Afstromen (talk) 06:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete The subject is not inherently notable by inheritance. Fails WP:NBIO. AndySailz (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable at all. Most online search results are about his brother Lucky Ali.Jitendra indulkar (talk) 16:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - No indication that this actor is notable per Wikipedia criteria WP:GNG nor WP:NACTOR. Netherzone (talk) 16:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Removed from Artists as no indication this individual is a visual artist. Jahaza (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: An alternative to deletion would be to create a personal life section on the father's article (Mehmood (actor)) that covers his children and, of course, any other pertinent information that typically go in such sections. Then this could redirect there, along with any of the siblings, if they are not independently notable. Offhand it looks like Ginny Ali redirects to Ginny Aur Johnny, a film that Mehmood set up as a vehicle for her. And on a side note, the father's article needs some editing for tone - it's decidedly non-neutral, to say the least. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Mehmood_(actor)#Personal_life. I've gone ahead and created that section and did a little pruning for tone - I removed some of the unsourced claims and some that were sourced to a site that the Indian film taskforce has judged as unusable. Offhand I'd recommend looking at the kids' pages - some of them didn't look much better. A few looked to have been in the same boat, where their main claim to fame was being his kids. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Geneviève Jeanningros (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. She briefly went viral during Pope Francis's funeral, but other than that... she's just a nun. Luxic (talk) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Previous independent in depth coverage here[12], here[13] and here[14]. Pope Francis mentioned her in print[15][16] and she's been mentioned in books about Francis[17][18]. Additional coverage here[19]. Jahaza (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. I think it's worth noting that all those sources only mention her in relation to Pope Francis (or she's mentioned by Francis himself). I still fail to see what would make her notable in her own right, regardless of her connection/friendship with the late pope. Luxic (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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No evidence of significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Yes there is some coverage when he died, but that doesn't make up for the fact that he didn't generate coverage at any point in his life, playing internationally for a minor cricket team or coaching similarly minor cricket teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: While the subject had been in minor teams, it is all relative. He coached Singapore's team to win its first gold at an international competition, and Malawi's authoritative figures credited the subject for the growth in the sport in the country since he joined them. Given that there are sources being used over time in the article already, it is likely that there was coverage of the subject, just not found or used, i.e. [20], [21], [22] – robertsky (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep The person was notable, so was his death. Article needs to be kept as RobertSky described.2400:74E0:0:4329:65B5:51AA:A95C:49C (talk) 03:44, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The issues described are about article quality rather than notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:05, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is untrue. I'm saying that I don't believe sufficient sources exist to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Seems to have sufficient sources and notability. If it needs to be significantly redrafted, that's what should happen, it shouldn't be deleted. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kelvin Uwaibi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO. WP:ROTM business person. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 13:23, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete I agree, nothing notable here. Mccapra (talk) 13:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Sources are definitely WP:ROTM. I see someone who could be notable if they have SIGCOV sources. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Israel Oladele (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Flagged and failing WP:GNG since October 2024, with no edits to improve it in the intervening period. Fails WP:BIO. Looks like WP:BLP1E based on the grift for which he was jailed in 2020. Otherwise WP:ROTM grifter and pastor 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 13:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG King ChristLike (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Gary King (radio presenter) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted at AfD, the article was recreated last November. Notability was tagged and concerns discussed on the talk page. The tag was removed with a recommendation it go to AfD if concerns remain. I have reviewed all the sources on the page. Although there was an attempt to add volume of sources to address notability, none of these do, in fact, demonstrate notability as they are primarily just programme listings and announcements, which lack independence, and we have a selection of self published sources in there including IMDB and Flickr. I'll add my source analysis in a collapsed form to the nom. We require significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. None of these sources meet that.
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- OK I can see from the source analysis that a lot of them give a passing mention. But surely because there is repeated, at least partially independent, mentioning of him presenting on national radio, that proves he is notable? I think the repeated mentions by RadioToday and Dublin Live as well as listings are, taken in totality, evidence of his notability? I know it's a nail-biting decision on this one as to whether notability is established but because King isn't the head of Blue Revolution and other presenters with similar careers and Wikipedia articles (like Toby Tarrant) whose Wikipedia articles show arguably slightly less notability than Gary King's have remained up for years, surely the rules should be interpreted a loosely than you have interpreted them? That's might of point view anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 11:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep This article has numerous independent references and I don't see how anyone can argue that someone who has presented on national, semi-national and local radio stations, and also worked on national television programmes and channels, for decades is not notable. Rillington (talk) 13:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- This editor was WP:CANVASSED to this discussion [31] owing to statements previously made on the talk page and in their !vote to the last AfD. I propose we repair the canvassing by pinging in all other editors involved. Bearcat, Phil Bridger, Funky Snack, Ldm1954, Jo-Jo Eumerus. Let me know if I missed anyone. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes so Rillington did say that Rillington would advocate for the page's retention, should it go to AfD a second time. I think Rillington would have to this very discussion anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but have a read of WP:APPNOTE which is part of the canvassing guideline above. If you ping past commentators to a discussion you should ping them all, and if you leave them a note, it should be a neutral notification. Not to worry. I understand you haven't done this all before, and the matter is repaired now as I have sent a ping to everyone else. But be aware of that for the future. Cheers. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes so Rillington did say that Rillington would advocate for the page's retention, should it go to AfD a second time. I think Rillington would have to this very discussion anyway. Jw93d59 (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- As well as being independent, references must also be secondary and reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject. That is what the General Notability Guidelines say. As per my source review (collapsed above) we don't have any such sources. On Wikipedia radio and TV presenters, as well as journalists and other media figures, are not considered notable just for doing their job. They become notable when someone starts to write about them (and not about programming). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Notability is not established by sources that glancingly mention him — it's established by sources that are about him. Radio hosts, national or otherwise, are not automatically notable just for existing — they become notable if and when they're the subject of coverage and analysis in third-party sources independent of themselves, not just because you can find their name in program schedule listings and staff directories self-published by their own employers. Bearcat (talk) 18:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Jw93d59 (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ilyas El Maliki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted article via WP:AFD in March and nothing has changed since then. The nomination statement in the first AFD and comments therein remain valid. Mekomo (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete G4. Mccapra (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per G4 and the previous deletion nomination. Also salt to prevent future recreations until he actually becomes notable. λ NegativeMP1 13:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Contesting Deletion
- This article substantially improves upon the previously deleted version by adding verifiable, independent sources demonstrating Ilyas El Maliki’s notability per WP:GNG:
- Global Digital Influence: Ranked by Dexerto as the 12th-largest Kick streamer worldwide and Africa’s #1.
- International Sports Role: Official chairman of Morocco’s national team at the Kings World Cup 2024, (Video of the game on Kings League's channel), with repeat invitation for 2025 alongside stars like Lamine Yamal.
- Addressing Systemic Bias
- While I respect Wikipedia’s deletion processes, I must note the recurring difficulty in establishing notability for clearly significant figures from Morocco and the broader MENA region. Despite providing verifiable, independent sources (including industry rankings and international tournament participation), articles like this face disproportionate scrutiny compared to Western counterparts with similar or lesser achievements.
- I urge editors to consider whether this reflects unconscious bias rather than policy compliance. Improve articles, not deleting them, should always be the first option. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or speedy delete per previous AfD, little change. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Contesting Deletion
- the original article of the subject got deleted because claimed "No real sign of notability", I list a number of sources proving that the subject is indeed notable:
- - International Tournament Participation: Kings League World Cup 2025.
- - Top 15 Streamers Worldwide: ranked at 12.
- - Massive coverage by Moroccan press both in English (more), and Arabic.
- if all these still don't make the subject notable, then sure go ahead and delete. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Update:
- just to add one more thing (a fact and a message):
- The first 3 months of 2023, the subject of this article was the most streamed gamer on YouTube, surpassing IShowSpeed, all this achieved through a dialect (Darija) spoken by about 40 million people, not a major language (English spoken by over 2 billion people). But somehow he is not notable!
- It's really demotivating to continue contributing to Wikipedia against all these (unconscious) biases. This is not an accusation, it's studied and proved, "Reliability of Wikipedia". We come here with good intention to contribute, but seems like not on English Wikipedia, unfortunately. El Maliki is literally the biggest streamer in all of Africa according to all reliable sources included (like Dexerto).
- respectfully, ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep (still new here, I just learnt that this is the right term)!
- so, since these discussions are NOT VOTES, then it should be that if 1 editor is able to present sufficient RSs on the subject, it won't matter how many spam "speedy delete"
- Allow me to list an organized number of RSs testifying to the notability of the subject of this article:
- The most watched streaming gamer of the first quarter of 2023 (surpassing IShowSpeed), Dexerto & SVG.
- The 6th highest peak viewed stream on Kick's history (Surpassing Adin Ross, he literally had a stream with President Trump while running for office, still got surpassed by a guy speaking a dialect of 40 million people), Dexerto.
- 12th biggest streamer worldwide, Dexerto.
- His Ultra was the first team selected for the 2025 Kings World Cup Club, the official and sole chairman of the Kingdom of Morocco on a world-class international competition, Kings League Pro.
- His life largely covered by multiple RS in different languages: UAE's Al Mashhad, Morocco's most popular press outlets and most RSs: MWN, L'Opinion, Hespress, Le360, and much more.
- It's not that difficult to look up stuff on Google. Best ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Hoping to have a discussion and evaluation of above sources.
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- Josh Gannet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Sources lack independent depth, and the article reads like WP:PROMO. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: See this deletion log also. & the provided sources [ SonicScoop, SongChecks, Mixonline] are primarily interviews/industry publications that not provide independent coverage per WP:GNG. Chronos.Zx (talk) 06:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- SonicScoop and MixOnline are fully independent publications. Would alternate or additional sources help correct the issue? The article is not intended as promo and appears to read similarly to other Wikipedia pages regarding other notable recording/mixing engineers. 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have removed what I am guessing may have been the offending sections. Please advise if any additional changes are necessary 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- additional sources included and tonal revisions made 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:37, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have removed what I am guessing may have been the offending sections. Please advise if any additional changes are necessary 148.74.79.119 (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Almost certainly some WP:COI editing going on with @Konakaimusic and 148.74.79.119. The Music Connection and Songchecks sources don't name any authors, and do little more than reprint his press releases. I don't see any actual in-depth journalism there. Rift (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- 148.74.79.119 and Konakaimusic are both me… edits were made from 2 different devices and one wasn’t signed in to Wikipedia. Is that not permitted? Additionally, subject is interviewed about his work in several podcasts, however they are predominantly audio/video. Are those site-able references? Konakaimusic (talk) 03:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Read WP:LOUTSOCK, WP:DBLOCK. If you are disrupting Wikipedia, adding support to your arguments by using multiple accounts/IPs in any discussion and not being open about it, it is not allowed per above and others.
- It is an advice to avoid using IP when you have an ID. IPs are also tracked/trackable but your ID grants you certain rights and covers for that. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 12:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- 148.74.79.119 and Konakaimusic are both me… edits were made from 2 different devices and one wasn’t signed in to Wikipedia. Is that not permitted? Additionally, subject is interviewed about his work in several podcasts, however they are predominantly audio/video. Are those site-able references? Konakaimusic (talk) 03:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dee Brestin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO. Disputed draftification. WP:DRAFTOBJECT prohibits unilateral return top Draft. WP:ROTM author. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 15:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete None of the references meet WP:RS standards and at least half are just profiles on non-independent sites. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've found a couple independent sources covering Brestin's work, namely, a 2010 review of her book in the journal Death Studies; a 2019 Publishers Weekly book review; and a bit of analysis of her 2002 book by Kathaleen Amende in Desire and the Divine: Feminine Identity in White Southern Women's Writing (Louisiana State University Press). There's also an interview with Today's Christian Woman magazine she did alongside a co-author, though I'm not sure how much that factors into WP:NAUTHOR. These sources have been added to the article. Best, Bridget (talk) 15:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, per the sources provided above and below by Nnev66 for WP:NAUTHOR. Bridget (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I found newspaper articles about the subject, two of which were about her book "The Friendships of Women" and I've added them to the article. With the sources Bridget found, meets WP:NAUTHOR #3 and possibly WP:GNG. Nnev66 (talk) 19:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as the additional reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Draftify: I just want to say that this is incredibly poorly written. I fixed a few of the worst mistakes. It's almost impossible to get past the typos for me to judge the notability of the subject. Bearian (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ryan Jude Tanner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet GNG. Indication of importance is described as winning a Tony award, among others. This person did not win a Tony award -- their company was one of about 50 companies listed as having a co-producer credit for a production which won a Tony award. TonySt (talk) 17:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keenan Beavis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Second AfD -- the first one reached a Delete concensus. This began as me trying to do a cleanup of sources and to improve the article as per WP:BEFORE but the more I worked in it the more I realized it does not meet WP:N. Sources cited are mostly WP:TRADES or WP:PROMO (in some cases actual straight-up AI SEO spam articles).
- Ground News aggregate (duplicate of a UFV source)
- Investers Hangout -- Very obvious AI SEO spam article
- Testimonial for SEO platform that was being used as a source? This is the only source for the "Publications" section. Testimonials are inherently not independent or credible.
- Daily Hive "Branded Content" -- this is a paid advertisement
Most of the articles I can find on this person appear to be the result of intensive SEO efforts rather than genuine significant coverage in independent secondary sources. The secondary sources that I've been able to find only write about him in the context of being the founder of a marketing agency. As detailed in the original AfD, the trades industry awards or "top" listings referenced in the article are not automatically noteriety claims. TonySt (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- delete this is absolutely PR/vanity spam about a non-notable person. COOLIDICAE🕶 17:38, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep I agree with the nominator that the mentioned 4 sources are not appropriate, however the remaining sources are OK. For example these sources have enough coverage and don't look like PR or paid placement:
- -aldergrovestar.com
- -bcbusiness.ca
- -sauder.ubc.ca - A university website, can't be paid placement
- -alumni.ufv.ca Alumini website, cant be paid
- -bcbusiness.ca 30 under 30 This type of coverage can't be paid
- -mnbc.ca Award win coverage, can't be paid
Also, the original AFD was in 2022 and the majority of sources cited are after 2022, so that result is irrelevant by now. Rubenpurer (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also, here is a new source I have Found:
- Canadian SME Small Business Magazine Page 41-43 Rubenpurer (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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- weak keep: Some coverage [32] and here [33]. Lots of coverage in the Aldergrove Star, that's probably the best one. The article needs a rewrite, badly, but AfD ain't clean up Oaktree b (talk) 19:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Azeko Tahiru Salifu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bureaucrat failing WP:ANYBIO or the WP:GNG who does not otherwise meet WP:NACADEMIC. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Henry O'Hagan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Being one of the secretaries of Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone, doesn't confer notability on its own per WP:NOTINHERITED, and his actions listed in his article appear to be fairly minor. He is mentioned just once in O'Neill's Dictionary of National Biography entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Richard Hunt (editor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article has existed in a pretty dire state since its creation in 2006. Over the past two decades, a dearth of significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources has been noted. It seems that the subject's alleged notability was inherited from their affiliation with the Green Anarchist publication and their later affiliation with Troy Southgate's national-anarchism.
None of the sources currently cited in this article give the subject substantial coverage independent of these two areas. There appears to be no information that could construct anything resembling a biography about this person. As this article appears to fall short of our notability guidelines on people, I'm recommending this article for deletion; a possible alternative to deletion could be redirecting to the Green Anarchist article. Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Green Anarchism as a suitable alternative to deletion, since he's affiliated with the topic. He is just as affiliated with Alternative Green, but since we have no article on that, I think the former is a better target than some broader article on national anarchism or the political right in the UK. I didn't see enough in a source search that we could use to substantiate a standalone article. czar 13:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal would be a redirect to Green Alternative so I wonder if we should create a stub for that? Otherwise redirect to Green Anarchist would be fine. However, Green Anarchism (which goes to Green anarchism) is far too general and would be a bad move. BobFromBrockley (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bobfrombrockley: Was Green Alternative even notable enough for an article? If there's no significant coverage of it, like there isn't of its founder, then I think it could easily be covered by a few sentences in the Green Anarchist article. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe you’re right. I’ve got a bunch of tabs open so will look. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I see there is currently a Green Alternative page which is a disamb page that doesn’t include Hunt’s group. I’ll add it there. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bobfrombrockley: Was Green Alternative even notable enough for an article? If there's no significant coverage of it, like there isn't of its founder, then I think it could easily be covered by a few sentences in the Green Anarchist article. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal would be a redirect to Green Alternative so I wonder if we should create a stub for that? Otherwise redirect to Green Anarchist would be fine. However, Green Anarchism (which goes to Green anarchism) is far too general and would be a bad move. BobFromBrockley (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: As I took on de-stubifying this article at Project Anarchism, I had lots of tabs open. I've now gone through these and added as much material to the page as I can find. Some of it is from solid reliable sources; some (including more biographical material) is from weaker primary sources. My feeling now is there is enough here to keep the article. However, an alternative that I would also support would be to Rename as Green Alternative (magazine) or Green Alternative (UK) and rewrite it so the focus is on the publication/group not the individual. I would also be happy to merge the content into the (currently badly sourced) Green Anarchist article (but that might give Hunt too much space there). I still have a bunch of tabs open with the aim of improving that article. Pinging previous contributors Grnrchst and Czar in case my edits change their mind, and also John Eden who has done the most solid editing on the GA article and Jdcooper who I believe created this stub. BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)- Nice work on the expansion! There are a few different threads here but my thoughts are: (1) The Hunt article still is too dependent on primary sources for basic details—i.e., there isn't enough coverage of Hunt himself in reliable, secondary sources to avoid having to revert to reliable sources—so I think the best bet is to redirect (but to where?) (2) Is there enough content on Alternative Green for a dedicated article? In the linked sources that I've read, AG is just part of the Southgate story and the actual scope of those articles is Southgate's movement in the UK which, in lieu of a separate article, is essentially the scope of National-anarchism. Would it suffice to cover GA in its own article (as it is) and AG in the National-anarchism article, where Hunt is already mentioned? (3) As for where to redirect Hunt, I'd sooner redirect to GA because I read the sources as associating him better with that then AG but if he is equally associated with both, we might want to delete the Hunt link as having no clear redirect target. I think that is a better outcome than redirecting to National-anarchism, where Hunt is mentioned but is not clearly affiliated. czar 01:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sandeep Bhargava (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not a single source which talks about the subject to define his notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The subject does not pass WP:NBIO, WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Though the article of the profile seems to be notable but lacks reliable news references. hence notable citations needed.
- Delete: [34] - 404, [35] - There is nothing to say about Sandeep, [36] - Why this article added as reference?, [37]- Same article as 'The Hindu'. I can't even see the subject's name in any citation. B-Factor (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- The articles from Economic Times, Hollywood Reporter, The Hindu, and Financial Express are all legitimate and verified. However the links previously posted took the reader directly to the main home page of these news sources and not to the relevant article about Mr Sandeep Bhargava, leading to confusion. This has been fixed and the relevant articles with the accurate links have now been added. Kindly check. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:31, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:NOTCV. Charlie (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi. Have fixed the article with the relevant and credible sources talking about Mr. Sandeep Bhargava. Kindly peruse. 202.72.225.101 (talk) 06:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi. Have added relevant and verified sources and references, please note. Anusha Ananth Kumar (talk) 06:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete It looks promotional, no in depth coverage found, and The Hindu source is reliable but it does not say anything about the subject, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFILMMAKER Pasados (talk) 14:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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fails WP:GNG; appears to violate WP:NOTNEWS per @162 etc.: Joeykai (talk) 01:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Unfortunately, I have to agree. This doesn't measure up to WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 10:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. 162 etc. (talk) 15:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Also, I would have been very leery of taking a taxi driven by a nonagenarian. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Three reliable sources, including BBC. Unique among cabdrivers. Received award. "His new-found fame led to widespread media interest." There's no good reason to deprive readers of this information. WP is most useful for articles about relatively obscure but still notable people. Station1 (talk) 21:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed with the sentiment, but the word WP:notable is where the disagreement is. Even if you think there is enough to establish notability, then we fall into the realm of WP:BIO1E: his notability is only due to one "event", which is living so long and still doing his job. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:GNG Halley luv Filipino ❤ (Talk) 22:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Devdutta Manisha Baji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. I removed a ton of unsourced content but even what is left is just mentions and a lot of those are WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Hi @CNMall41,
- Firstly, thank you for reviewing the page. Every notice is a new learning experience for me, and I have carefully gone through your comments.
- Please forgive me if I have not used the correct Wikipedia technical terms. I usually use generic terminology to convey points, though I do try to follow Wikipedia guidelines as best as I can.
- Regarding the Devdutta article: I won't claim he is notable without basis, and though I wrote the article, I’m not approaching it with bias. I would like to present a logical, reference-based defense for my work. Beyond that, you all are the experts, and I trust your decision.
- Let me address the points one by one:
- 1. WP:NEWSORGINDIA
- Since I don’t know the subject personally, I cannot confirm whether he or his production houses paid for the articles referenced. I used sources that I found available online. Therefore, I have no comment on their promotional nature. If you have any suggestions or tools to help identify whether a link is paid/promotional, that would be really helpful for my future articles.
- 2. Removal of Unsourced Data
- Yes, he is also a singer. I found his name listed on the music apps I use, and also in Wikipedia film tables where he is credited for singing. However, I remember a previous admin mentioning that a Wikipedia article cannot be used as a reference for another Wikipedia article. So, I didn’t cite them. And since platforms like Spotify or JioSaavn are not accepted as references, I couldn’t use those either. Thank you for cleaning up the unsourced information. It would be great if you could guide me on how to properly cite chartbusters or music credits.
- ----
- Defense Based on WP:NMUSICIAN
- I’ve reviewed the WP:NMUSICIAN guidelines, and I believe the subject meets the criteria for notability for the following reasons:
- a) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 2
- This mentions having a single or album on a national chart. His song “Raja Ala” from Pawankhind was a chartbuster. I’m slightly confused because, in India, songs are mostly part of film soundtracks, unlike in Hollywood where albums and movies are more separate. Still, this subject has composed music for high-budget Marathi films, and several of his songs have been popular.
- b) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 3
- This point seems a bit biased, as it references RIAA certification and Yahoo Music ratings. Indian music directors typically aren't evaluated through such systems. How, then, can Indian subjects qualify under this criterion?
- c) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 4
- Again, this seems tilted toward Western norms. Indian music directors primarily work in film, and their recognition usually comes through movie soundtracks, not necessarily through concerts. Concerts are secondary.
- d) WP:MUSICIAN - Point 5
- I believe the subject qualifies here. His music albums have been released under Zee Music, a reputed label with over 10 years in the industry. Zee itself is a well-established brand.
- e) WP:MUSICIAN - Awards (e.g., Grammy, Academy)
- This also feels biased, as these awards are region-specific. In India, we have our own recognized awards like Filmfare and state-level honors such as Nandi Awards. The subject has received several regional awards and was also nominated for Filmfare Marathi, which I’ve mentioned in the article. Therefore, I believe he satisfies this condition too.
- Finally, I’d like to share that I’m just a movie buff. With the rise of OTT platforms, language barriers have started to fade, and I’ve found myself exploring cinema beyond my native language. I initially began writing about Telugu movies, but then I found inspiration in my mentor and brother @Jayanthkumar123, who was actively contributing articles for Telugu cinema. Later, I saw @DareshMohan bro contributing valuable content for Kannada films.
- That’s when I realized there’s a real need to work on communities like Marathi, Odia, Punjabi, and Bengaliwhere even native-language contributors are very few. I wanted to help bridge that gap and bring more visibility to regional cinema and artists who truly deserve recognition.
- Regarding the issue of paid articles: it’s evident that well-established personalities or large production houses can easily pay to get featured in newspapers and portals—eventually leading to the creation of a Wikipedia article even before the film’s release.
- On the other hand, subjects who lack financial resources and media exposure often have their pages deleted for “lack of citations.” This feels like an unfortunate imbalance, and I hope we can find fairer ways to address it.
- My final input regarding this article is that the subject is notable. He has composed quality music and has several popular songs that have performed well on music apps within the Marathi industry. He is regarded as one of the top music directors in that space.
- My suggestion would be to remove any unsourced content and improve the article in alignment with Wikipedia guidelines. Beyond that, I leave the final decision to the experienced editors—admins, rollbackers @Ab207, and others in the community hierarchy.
- Thank you for this opportunity to learn and grow. Every review is a valuable learning experience for me. - Herodyswaroop (talk) 18:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- >His song “Raja Ala” from Pawankhind was a chartbuster
- Please give reliable sources for this statement, as it helps to prove notability. Review WP:CHARTS. "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart" is part of WP:NMUSICBIO — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: No notability as singer or musician. As a soundtrack composer, his films doesn't seem notable and sources are unclear. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Itzcuauhtli11
- Respecting your opinion and also defending mine — I was a bit shocked by the second statement:
- "His films don't seem notable."
- Sir, I’m sharing with you Wikipedia's own lists — List of highest-grossing Marathi films. I am neither an editor nor do I know anyone associated with editing that page. The data is clearly visible there.
- Pawankhind – This is the 3rd highest-grossing film ever in the Marathi industry. It also appears under the highest-grossing opening weekend list.
- Subhedar – It is listed under worldwide highest-grossing films by month.
- Firastya – This film won multiple awards, including recognition in Sweden and Pune.
- So, we can conclude from Wikipedia itself that two of his films were among the highest grossers in the Marathi film industry.
- Coming to the song "Raja Ala":
- I searched under WP:Charts, but unfortunately couldn’t find any official music chart specifically for India. However, I’m sharing a few links which I believe may help:
- https://www.jiosaavn.com/featured/chartbusters-2022-marathi/CAvDksWm1rKvz,QNANKgeg__ "Raja Ala" is listed in the Top 3.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgVnhNpcFc 55 million views on YouTube.
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/marathi/movies/news/pawankhind-new-song-raja-aala-this-foot-tapping-number-featuring-santosh-juvekar-and-chinmay-mandlekar-is-definitely-a-chartbuster/articleshow/89432249.cms Again, you may argue this is paid media — but I’m sharing it for reference.
I hope I have answered your queries. - Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Herodyswaroop:, please stop with the AI-generated WP:WALLOFTEXT information you keep posting. It is not helpful, especially since these are not policy-based arguments and the sources you are providing are not reliable. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @CNMall41 Sorry sir, As my English is bit bad, I am using grammarly to correct the sentence. I would avoid that.
- But I am actually going through each and every point in the Wikipedia guidelines and answering them, with utmost care. You asked for chartbuster I have provided the same. You asked for films notability, I have given the same.
- Again bit surprising. if List of highest-grossing Marathi films this itself isn't reliable source, then which is ? - Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Itzcuauhtli11
- Wikipedia: Notability (music)
- "The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc."
- Response: I have mentioned notable films where the recordings were featured.
- You did not comment on the following criterion: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)."
- Response: Zee5 Music is a notable music company with over 10 years of establishment and a significant presence in the industry.
- Please guide me if I am not adhering to the Wikipedia guidelines. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
- - Herodyswaroop (talk) 17:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- You are still using AI to generate responses. Again, please stop. You have made your case for notability and now need to leave others to opine. Posting AI generated walls of text do NOT help your case. Also, note WP:CIR, WP:COI and WP:PAID. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @CNMall41 Small correction, Not AI generated content, you can say AI Grammer corrected content, It took one hour to go through each point and get them done.
- Wp: paid, Wp:COI, If I really get money in defending this subject, I would really be happy. Joking - Herodyswaroop (talk) 18:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- You claim you need an hour to generate the responses yet your edits are done quick on pages with very good competency. This is not my first rodeo. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for not properly betting all of the subject's movies as notable or not.
- About the 3 movies you mentioned: Firastya didn't earn major awards and Subhedar only earned ₹18 crore worldwide, which may be notable enough on a regional level, but not on a national or international ones.
- Pawankhind may be notable enough on a national or international level, but I'm still not sure. That could probe notability, but it doesn't mean he deserves an article. He also needs significant coverage on independent, reliable sources.
- As a singer or musician, he doesn't meet WP:NMUSIC.
- As a composer, he doesn't meet any of the criteria for WP:COMPOSER.
- About Zee5 Music: What's its "roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable"? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Itzcuauhtli11 @CNMall41 Sir, I am in a big confusion now. If i reply. @CNMall41 accuse me of paid editing. if I don't reply, I am getting lot of confusion. Taking the bet.
- Sir, Marathi films are regional films and obviously,they will be highest grossers in same na sir?. How can we expect it should be highest grosser in international level.
- Like Sairat movie the top-1 in marathi list, is blockbuster in Marathi,but the same is flop in telugu. And definitely not a international hit. But still it's a top movie for marathi people right?
- If that is the case 98% all regional film articles would get rejected in Wiki. Because any country Or region may give a massive hit globally once Or twice.
- 2. Again,you claimed no awards for Firatsya. But ref clearly shows that,then why the claim of no awards.
- Finally respecting @CNMall41sir advice,not dragging the context. It would be great help if sir itself goes through Zee5 label list of independently notable, as the list may go long.
- - Herodyswaroop (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Itzcuauhtli11 @CNMall41 Sir, I am in a big confusion now. If i reply. @CNMall41 accuse me of paid editing. if I don't reply, I am getting lot of confusion. Taking the bet.
- You are still using AI to generate responses. Again, please stop. You have made your case for notability and now need to leave others to opine. Posting AI generated walls of text do NOT help your case. Also, note WP:CIR, WP:COI and WP:PAID. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Herodyswaroop:, please stop with the AI-generated WP:WALLOFTEXT information you keep posting. It is not helpful, especially since these are not policy-based arguments and the sources you are providing are not reliable. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak KeepHe appears significant; as a composer, he has contributed to numerous distinguished films. However, the provided references are inadequate and require further support from credible sources. AndySailz (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the !vote AndySailz, but I am hoping you can clarify. If the provided references are inadequate and require further support from credible sources, how is this notable? Are you able to provide those credible sources? "Appear[ing] significant" and being notable are two different things. We need sources showing such. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Is borderline notable, but not seeing it as enough for a stand alone article. Even with his involvement with some films. Which are very particular. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Lacks SIGCOV; only mentioned in film credits without additional commentary or analysis. Checked Google News and ProQuest. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 19:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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As genuinely cool and entertaining as the bus-jumping incident is, this seems like a clear WP:1E fail. — Moriwen (talk) 00:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - maybe this is the time to Ignore all rules. This was, after all, covered in Time Magazine. — Maile (talk) 01:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I also agree with this as it was very much a well publicised event and it is also such a good story in my opinion Jack Smart (talk) 01:14, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldn’t this fall under the “ if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified.” Because of its relation to the much larger tower bridge article it is mentioned in where it is basically only a line there and if you want to learn more you click on him and find out more
- I have tried finding out about his time in the war but could not find the records as I didn't have access to the archives because I couldn’t find any that wasn’t they were behind a pay wall Jack Smart (talk) 01:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep With coverage in Time, and significant coverage from the BBC and Metro in 2024, this already meets WP:GNG. I can also find coverage in September 1953, as well as in 1972 and 1979, and note that the BBC article in particular has more info about Gunter (eg that he drove a tank during WWII), which could be added to the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh thanks i was looking for his war stuff I’ll add that in aswell Jack Smart (talk) 15:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Maile66. It seems to satisfy WP:GNG. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Lester Robert Fudge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable per WP:BIO1E. The disaster where Mr Fudge provided aid was not particularly notable, and Mr Fudge appears to be otherwise a low-profile private individual. — Moriwen (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Delete barely any sources and they only cover the one event no coverage exists for anything else about him Scooby453w (talk) 20:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ✗plicit 04:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)- Delete. Article simply isn't necessary. Info doesn't need to be anywhere outside of Cross of Valour. Leonstojka (talk) 20:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This is Canada’s highest award for bravery, only 20 have been awarded in its 53 year history. If any Canadian should have their own Wikipedia entry, no matter how insignificant the rest of their lives were, its these 20 heroes. Capnwilly (talk) 22:01, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep Fudge and the other 19 recipients per Capnwilly. This is the civilian equivalent of the Medal of Honor, and the MOH is an automatic keep.Clarityfiend (talk) 22:27, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect and possibly merge citation to Cross of Valour (Canada). Clarityfiend (talk) 22:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Even a Canadian newspaper search is a bust. There is probably coverage that hasn't been digitized, but we can't show notability at this time. Would be better to find sourcing, then create the article, rather than the other way around. He's very likely notable, but no sourcing, so no article. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Im gonna be honest i think the majority of these articles should probably be merged into the page where the medal is. of the 20 people who have gotten it 3 maybe 4 are more then just stubs that cite the medal citation I think a section that describes their actions would be better then having 15 stubby articles Scooby453w (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)- I was thinking the same thing. Make a chart in the article and put their names there. Brief description if needed. Oaktree b (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Does not look notable. Certainly not enough to a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - let's look at the applicable guideline, Notability.
- Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Any biography, item 1 says:
"The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times"
- Mr. Fudge won the Cross of Valour (Canada).
- We have articles on every Victoria Cross winner yet the majority are know for just one event. The distinction from your typical BIO1E is that they did something big and they received a very high award as a result. The same applies to Mr. Fudge. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Comment I have identified two Canadian news sources with coverage, The Globe and Mail and Winnipeg Free Press, and added these citations to the article. ResonantDistortion 15:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Adrian Prenkaj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Minor diplomat now working as a functionary at the UN. Almost all hits are articles written by the subject, or where he is briefly quoted giving his opinion. I did find one profile of him in local media, but that doesn't amount to passing WP:SIGCOV in general.
His previous job titles are not automatically notable, and it isn't reasonable to suggest (as the opening section does) that he was a member of the Kosovo cabinet by virtue of being a political adviser. Overall, comes across as an inadequate promo page. Leonstojka (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment members of a national cabinet meet WP:NPOL.They appear to have served in the cabinet of Atifete Jahjaga. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Notability is not established. The sources are few and him having jobs in governemnt are not enough for a stand alone article. Reads like a resume too. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:39, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep: Automatically notable as a member of Kosovo's cabinet. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: There is ZERO Automatically notable people on Wikipedia. The subject fails the criteria for a BLP page. I don't see the source "Kosovo info" (current number 4) supporting the article content. "Public policy consultant", "former Kosovo diplomat", or "former Adviser" are not notable positions. The subject lacks the elements to qualify as a full and balanced biography. Wikipedia is not intended to be a resume. -- Otr500 (talk) 19:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: "Presumed notability" is dependent on sourcing requirements being satisfied per GNG, NBASIC, ANYBIO. Someone who is barely notable is a red flag. -- Otr500 (talk) 19:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Mukul Arya (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet GNG and all the sources provided are dead links Uncle Bash007 (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Indian Foreign Service. Instead of deleting. Subject does not seem notable aside from working in government. Not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:33, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete: Not only are most of the sources hallucinated links from an LLM, the subject appears to have received coverage only in connection with his death, which makes this a case of WP:BIO1E. A redirect is fine as an alternative but Indian Foreign Service is not a great target. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Kane County John Doe (1994) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:VICTIM. This possible murder victim was finally identified 30 years after his body was found, but that's about it. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:24, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, crime does not pass WP:NEVENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:15, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I haven't yet looked for sourcing on this individual, but would like to suggest that merging to Othram#Unidentified remains cases might be a possibility. This case is not yet included in that article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on merging?
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- Keep I can see why this one is borderline, but there is enough coverage in neutral media for this to merit a keep. On a subjective level, it also just feels like a good article to have on Wikipedia. Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to a section in Big Water, Utah, the sources in this article are lacking. Scuba 23:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT. The entire article is self contradictory. It says that he was unidentified, and then goes on and how he was not identified, which makes no sense. This reads like one of those murder cases, not an encyclopedia article. Ping me if you actually fix this, but underneath is a run of the mill missing person story. Bearian (talk) 01:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian I think I fixed it, namely by adding a section that clarifies the identification. Scuba 15:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. I'm fine with a merge if that's the compromise consensus. Bearian (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian I think I fixed it, namely by adding a section that clarifies the identification. Scuba 15:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- P. C. Solanki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of significance. Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. Refs are mix of interviews and routine annoucements to with the cases. scope_creepTalk 08:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - lots of mentions, but no in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG.Onel5969 TT me 10:14, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Speedy Keep: Earlier PROD-nominations were based on failing to find sources, which the re-write shows is objectively untrue. The AfD is now proposed mainly on WP:BIO, WP:RS, and WP:SIGCOV, which again reflect lack of WP:BEFORE and an appeal to policy (without specific discussion) that I address below. For instance, for user User talk:Onel5969, who voted above and originally nom. for PROD, several issues regarding lack of due diligence in PROD/AfD have consistently been raised on their talk page that concern me.
- WP:RS—This is trivially untrue. Subject of the article is literally the headline of independent and published news from several news organizations such as The Economics Times, Deccan Chronicle, and The Quint. No significant research is needed to create a profile of the topic from these articles and it's more than a passing mention (or routine announcement) as the subject was the primary advocate of mult-year high-profile trial (see: Asaram for defendents profile and stature). This also satisfies, in my opinion, reliable, independent, and sources criterion of WP:GNG.
- WP:SIGCOV—Additional citations within the article, where the subject is not the main topic directly, but critical part of the story support significant coverage, such as the coverage in the Caravan magazine, The Print articles. These may include interviews but are not the basis of the subjects profile. Further, coverage spans several years (2013-2023) indicating WP:SUSTAINED.
- WP:BIO—The impact of trial brought by the subject as lead counsel is highly notable (as stated above) and their portrayal in a notable bollywood film (Sirf Ek Bandaa Kaafi Hai). — Komodo (talk) 18:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - in light of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Paid reporting in Indian news organizations, are the article's sources reliable? If so, I'd say "keep". --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 00:30, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @A. B.: There is enough to indicate notability. There are multiple non-NEWSINDIAORG sources that have provided significant coverage to Solanki. It includes this and this. I would also say Keep. Koshuri (グ) 04:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @A. B., What are your concerns regarding the reliability of the sourcing ? Sohom (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I know there can be problems with Indian news sources. I’m unsure which to trust - that’s why I’ve asked for help. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Hindu The Print and Caravan Magazine would be the most reliable, Anything associated with the Times group is up for debate imo. However, given the subject matter, I doubt money changed hands except maybe to promote the film (I'm neutral about the Deccan Chronicle, tho I've seen bad coverage from themselves at times). Sohom (talk) 21:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I know there can be problems with Indian news sources. I’m unsure which to trust - that’s why I’ve asked for help. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @A. B., What are your concerns regarding the reliability of the sourcing ? Sohom (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- It goes a little deeper than the publication itself. Even reliable publications can have articles that fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The best thing to look for is the byline. Anything that is marked "entertainment desk" or "news desk" is likely to not have editorial oversight and possibly paid. This, this and even the Deccan Herald article (not the byline of PTI - indicating churnalism) used in the article are all examples. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- @A. B.: There is enough to indicate notability. There are multiple non-NEWSINDIAORG sources that have provided significant coverage to Solanki. It includes this and this. I would also say Keep. Koshuri (グ) 04:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support, I don't think this article passes muster purely from a WP:BLP1E point of view. If we zoom out for a second and try to look at to the sources, we see that every single source mentions the individual in the context of the much more notable Asaram Bapu case. The man is known for a singular thing, and that is as the attorney of the godman case, something that can be sumarized in the parent article.
- The article in it's current state has a total of 4 sentences that are unrelated to his involvement in the case, none of which have been independently reported on (outside of the context of the other case) or are notable if stood on their own merit. As a result, I support deletion, even without considering the reliability of the sources involved (some of which like the economic times can be of dubious reliability at times -- but probably aren't in this context). Sohom (talk) 17:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment, Soham! On reviewing the WP:BLP1E conditions, to my reading, it doesn't appear that all three conditions are met. Specially, for condition three, the event is significant and the subjects role in it is well documented. Even if bulk of the notability comes from that event, and BLP1E is a concern, does it directly merit a deletion? Considering that the initial PROD and AfD nom wasn't even about the specific issue, one can't help but feel that goalposts are being moved. If considering a merge, it is hard to place this topic in Asaram but I am not entirely against it as a seconday outcome. Let me know if my understanding of these guidelines are incomplete. Cheers! — WeWake (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I see another reference has been added which again is tangenital to the mans career rather than the man himself, essentially a passing mention. I don't think you can build a case for WP:BLP1E and didn't think so when I opened the Afd but I'm more sure now than then, that he is non-notable in this instance. scope_creepTalk 04:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- The citation is to support the specific statement re: verifiability. There are existing sources addressing their career. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 06:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak keep I see it inspired a movie. I count that as borderline notability. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:18, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- It didnt. It was the trial not the lawyer. I will take a closer look tommorrow. scope_creepTalk
- Keep - Multiple reliable sources provided by Koshuri Sultan prove that notability exists. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 01:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- This editor is a WP:SPA. scope_creepTalk 05:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you don't know what is WP:SPA or you are just being deceptive due to your poor AfD nomination even after your rampant bludgeoning. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 14:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- This editor is a WP:SPA. scope_creepTalk 05:02, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The sources cited in the article are significant coverage and bylined to meet WP:GNG. AndySailz (talk) 04:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - even with all its problems, the subject is clearly notable by significant coverage. Much as I dislike the way the Indian media grabs attention, this lawyer actually did something notable. Bearian (talk) 03:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Right. Fair enough. Nomination Withdrawn. I plan to copyedit the article to remove the junk. I was preparing a source analysis table which was revealed Ref 16 and 17 as being pretty decent. 15:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Stacey Gabriel (actress) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article does not meet WP:GNG. There is no evidence of significant, independent coverage from reliable sources to establish a lasting impact in the field. Most references appear to be minor news snippets, social media, or self-published material, which do not qualify as substantial verification under Wikipedia's standards. Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 13:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Your claims are demonstrably false. Reverse this unjustified nomination for deletion. You have claimed multiple falsehoods which are against the Community Guidelines of Wikipedia.
- To clarify:
- List of nationally and internationally distributed news organizations referenced in the article:
- - The Inquirer.net
- - The Philippine Star
- - ABS-CBN News
- - the Manila Bulletin
- - Mega magazine
- - Philstar.com
- - PEP. Ph
- All sources explicitly note Stacey Gabriel and her notable activities.
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- Meanwhile your claims of "self published" material being used is false. Note an example of it or kindly retract your false claim. If you cannot back up this claim, nor retract it, your submission will be flagged as an abuse of Wikipedia policy.
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- "Without additional, credible sources demonstrating notable achievements or career recognition"
- Multiple independent sources outline dozens of TV series episodes Stacey participated in, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant.
- Are these not notable?
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- "social media"
- There are no social media references in this article.
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- Given no evidence to support this unjustified action, reverse this flagrantly unjustified and deceptive nomination for deletion. Mickfir (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Mickfir (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- Dear @Mickfir,
- I want to clarify that the nomination was made in good faith, based on a review of the article’s current sourcing and in line with WP:GNG and WP:BIO some of the listed sources are reliable, and this Afd only for english version. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Why include false claims that social media and self published material was used as references? There is not a single referenced source that was self published nor any reference to social media. This is a harmful oversight at best and deliberately deceptive at worst.
- As for notability... I repeat, dozens of interdependently verified TV Episode performances and multiple national pageants including Miss Universe Philippines as 1st Runner-up. Mickfir (talk) 17:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Let me check! WP:AFD is not only for deletion it's a basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia. Many contributors will review it and vote, so there's no need to panic just let the contributors decide.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- "Let me check" ? You nominated this article for deletion without even checking if the claims you are making against it are true?
- Perhaps this article is worth a read: Wikipedia:Don't lie
- "basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia"
- No. Wikipedia best practice clearly indicates that if an article has areas for improvement, the 'Talk' page should be used to suggest edits, or you make the edits yourself.
- Nominating an article for deletion based on false claims is a flagrant abuse of Wikipedia recommended practice. Mickfir (talk) 10:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Let me check! WP:AFD is not only for deletion it's a basic procedure to determine whether an article is suitable for Wikipedia. Many contributors will review it and vote, so there's no need to panic just let the contributors decide.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Sources like ABS-CBN News, The Philippine Star, Manila Bulletin, and others mentioned by Mickfir are reliable. But some, like IMDb, aren't and should be removed. — doclys (❀) 18:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- • Keep. Most of the claims made by @S-Aura about incorrect sourcing were false - made without even checking them first. The IMDb references have been removed as per the advice @Doclys Mickfir (talk) 10:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Miss_Universe_Philippines_2024. Not seeing her being notable. She did not win the pageant and her acting career does not look like enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think we have another skim reader. Shame the wiki community is so full of them. May I respectfully remind the administrator assessing this that this very nomination for deletion was made under false pretenses of nonexistent social media and self published citations. There are none.
- Multiple independent sources outline over a dozen TV series episodes Stacey participated in with national distribution, as well as her participation and placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2024 Miss Universe Philippines competition are noted. This is in addition to her success in the national Binibining Pilipinas pageant. This, in addition to a nationally recognized prison ministry program.
- Mickfir (talk) 09:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think we have another skim reader. Shame the wiki community is so full of them. May I respectfully remind the administrator assessing this that this very nomination for deletion was made under false pretenses of nonexistent social media and self published citations. There are none.
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 04:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)- Note to admin: the comments justifying the original nomination for deletion by @S-Aura contain false claims about the citations of the article. Not only does this invalidate the original AfD nomination but the community members that utilize false claims should be cautioned by admins.
- Summary:
- Claim: "Most references appear to be ... social media, or self-published material,"
- Reality: there were never any such citations. All citations are from nationally, and in some cases internationally distributed news organizations.
- This AfD discussion was raised under false pretenses and should therefor be retracted. AfD nominations should not be justified by outright falsehoods. Mickfir (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dear, No personal attacks WP:NPA.
- Thankyou! 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 11:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Highlighting that you justified this AfD by making false claims is not a personal attack. Your claims are either correct or false. There is nothing personal. Just accountability. May I ask why you chose to include false information in your AfD nomination? Is not the Wikipedia Community dependent on telling the truth? Wikipedia:Don't lie
- Or can you list which citation was from "social media" or "self published"?
- There was clearly no such faulty citations. Mickfir (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Doclys. Any references deemed questionable can either be replaced by more reliable sources or contested/discussed in the article's talk page, same applies for phrases and sentences that need relevant citations. -Ian Lopez @ 15:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Khumar Gadimova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article does not yet appear to be notable for English Wikipedia Insufficient Sources, and the topic may not meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 02:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Khumar Gadimova is a well-known figure in Azerbaijani pop music and is widely recognized by the public in the country. Her artistic career has been covered by numerous reliable and independent sources such as APA, AzərTAc, Musavat, and Report. She has been active in the music industry since the 1990s, performing solo concerts, with her songs broadcast on national television and radio, and has participated in several state-level events.
The article is based on verifiable and independent sources, and the subject clearly meets the notability criteria due to her impact on Azerbaijani culture and public recognition. For these reasons, I oppose the deletion of the article and recommend that it be kept.Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 10:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Being selected as an 'Honored artist' by the Azerbaijan government should be enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. I found sources stating this, but all are in Azerbaijani and I'm not sure if they're reliable enough.[38] [39] — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The official website of the President of the country has reported on this. Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw it. But independent, reliable sources are needed, and that is a primary source, which is not great. Are there others? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.bakupost.az/xumar-qedimovaya-emekdar-artist-oldu https://mia.az/mobil/1075536 https://rublika.az/index.php?newsid=22845 https://etikxeber.az/xumar-q%C9%99dimova-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-oldu/ https://hit.az/az/senet/264643/emekdar-artist-konserte-hazirlasir/ https://musavat.com/ru/mobile/news/bacisi-xumar-qedimova-emekdar-artist-olmasindan-xebersizdir_420423.html https://www.gununsesi.info/xumar-q%C9%99dimovaya-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-adi-verildi/ https://baku.ws/show-business/xumar-qdimovaya-mkdar-artist-ad-verildi-srncam https://azxeber.com/az/emekdar-artist-turkiyede-trend-oldu/maqazin/ https://news24.az/180697-emekdar-artist-sevenlerine-seslendi.html Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Are those independent, reliable sources? Linkbombing is not enough for a discussion. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The most reliable source. The country's president's own official website Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Are those independent, reliable sources? Linkbombing is not enough for a discussion. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.bakupost.az/xumar-qedimovaya-emekdar-artist-oldu https://mia.az/mobil/1075536 https://rublika.az/index.php?newsid=22845 https://etikxeber.az/xumar-q%C9%99dimova-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-oldu/ https://hit.az/az/senet/264643/emekdar-artist-konserte-hazirlasir/ https://musavat.com/ru/mobile/news/bacisi-xumar-qedimova-emekdar-artist-olmasindan-xebersizdir_420423.html https://www.gununsesi.info/xumar-q%C9%99dimovaya-%C9%99m%C9%99kdar-artist-adi-verildi/ https://baku.ws/show-business/xumar-qdimovaya-mkdar-artist-ad-verildi-srncam https://azxeber.com/az/emekdar-artist-turkiyede-trend-oldu/maqazin/ https://news24.az/180697-emekdar-artist-sevenlerine-seslendi.html Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw it. But independent, reliable sources are needed, and that is a primary source, which is not great. Are there others? — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://president.az/az/articles/view/22993 The official website of the President of the country has reported on this. Farrux Dadasbayli (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep : Being selected as an 'Honored artist' by the Azerbaijani government, which is a national level recognition, is enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alinur Velidedeoğlu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It was deleted a year ago, and not much has changed since then. There’s been the same routine coverage of events, interviews, and mentions. Since he’s an advertising executive, some routine media coverage is to be expected, but direct, in‑depth, quality coverage is still lacking. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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Keep: Notability is easily satisfied through both the GNG and the SNG about creative artists. The sources are not routine coverage. His advertising work is covered in depth in two academic papers. He was in charge of Turkey's second largest and oldest political party's advertising campaign. The nominator did an AfC review for this article but did not mention at all any concern about "notability" in their review comments, all their concern was about the non-encyclopedic style and NPOV violations. What is the reason for this inconsistency? If there is a notability concern, they should have mentioned in their AfC review. The subject is also the producer of various notable productions, which received coverage in sources like The Hollywood Reporter, which is considered a reliable source. The second deletion discussion was poorly attended, with non-policy-based !votes. RE: "not much has changed since then", please compare the two versions. Also, please see @Fram's comment in the first deletion discussion. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment This article was declined by Article for Creation on May 3 for being too promotional in tone. Article was then moved to main space by the creator with the comment The article waited too long in the AfC queue, and I disagree with the feedback it received. Feel free to nominate it for deletion if there are any concerns
. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note, but not exactly... I'm not the article's creator. It was created in 2007, and I wasn't active on Wikipedia at the time, and I have no connection to the user who created it. The AfC reviewer and the nominator of this AfD are the same user, and for some reason, they believe not much has changed between this version of the article and this earlier version. Also, they didn't say it was promotional; they said the style violates the Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy. I wasn't sure whether that meant it was too promotional or too defamatory, as there are paragraphs that could be interpreted either way, and all based on reliable sources. Note that the sources that I used are not tabloids, but mainstream Turkish newspapers, columnists, commentators and academic papers. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as
not written in a formal, neutral encyclopedic tone
. I misspoke in my previous post when I stated the article was declined as being too promotional in tone. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)- The nomination statement of this AfD incorrectly states that not much has changed since the prior nomination, that's the reason I asked those two versions to be compared. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- comment I declined the speedy deletion, because the current article is substantially different from the one deleted, which consisted of only two of the current paragraphs. The opinion of a AfC reviewer does not constitute a deletion discussion, there is no need to have any improvement after that. No opinion on the notability, but given that it is harder to assert notability for people outside the english language world (and english references) and the efforts of TheJoyfulTentmaker in improving it, I suggest, that it is draftified/userfied if not kept - Nabla (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as
- Delete As I clarified in the 2nd nomination. I do not think that the sources is adequate for passing GNG.--Kadı Message 10:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Sufficient media presence for a socialite, akin to Kardashians, "notable for being notable". --Altenmann >talk 03:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Anzhelika Bielova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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it does not demonstrate notability through independent, reliable sources, offering only trivial or self-published coverage. It also reads like a promotional biography and lacks the depth, neutrality, and verifiability required by Wikipedia standards. Oia-pop (talk) 05:48, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment given that only 1 minute passed between your previous AFD and this one, did you do any check WP:BEFORE? MarioGom (talk) 19:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, the significance of the persona is confirmed by independent sources. There is a suspicion that the nominator is a sock of an experienced editor, given the number of edits and indiscriminate nominations for deletion by me alone. Greenhalle (talk) 14:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Question: What's the role of the Ukrainian Women's Congress? Is it a quasi-governmental organization? Bearian (talk) 01:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment I'm leaning keep but since I don't understand the Ukrainian language, it would be much better if the titles of articles in Ukrainian (most of the references here) were translated into English in the References section. That would make it easier for me to evaluate this article. I added a reference from the Guardian into the article. Nnev66 (talk) 16:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per significance, notability 78.81.123.235 (talk) 11:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dominik Kočik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to be notable upon search. I've found two potential secondary sources (1 & 2) referenced in the current state of the article, but the first thing that struck out to me is that they do not seem to be WP:SIGCOV, so there is no real reason to presume that the subject is notable as of right now. WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - in addition to the two sources above, I'm able to find quite a bit of material in Slovak sources (1, 2, 3 4, 5, 6) indicating he's at least regionally notable in Slovakia for his darting abilities. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 08:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – He is a young athlete who just started his career. Can anyone analyze whether or not the sources found by Ser! count towards WP:GNG?⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify - There is nothing on the page that points towards GNG, but Ser! has added a number of new sources. [40] is an interview, so that is
per WP:IV. The others are all SIGCOV, but all focussing on him as a rising hope who is top of his youth class and even won a competition in the Netherlands. Now I don't know if we call darts players athletes, but I think WP:YOUNGATH applies in any case. He clearly made a stir in June 2022, after winning in the Netherlands, but these are youth tournaments, and the press interest in him is localised (although across Slovakia) and also occasioned, and thus primary news reporting. At this point I agree with the press reporting that he looks like a Slovak hopeful for great future success, but that is in the future. Draftify recognises that this may occur. However, there is a risk that the draft will be abandoned before the success occurs, which could be some time away. I would also be happy with a redirect to preserve page history. However, there is not much that is actually usable in the final article in what we have now (again, ther sourcing on the page as it is will not do). Failing agreement on a suitable redirect, I would see no problem with deletion. The article can be written if and when he achieves success in major tournaments and elicits significant secondary coverage. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Dabzee discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet GNG and the one reference provided in the article does not cover the subject in depth https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/music/malayalam/thallumaala-song-manavaalan-thug/amp_videoshow/93500395.cms Uncle Bash007 (talk) 09:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Should seem obvious, but just in case, if consensus is reached that this article shouldn't be kept, merge into Dabzee#Discography instead of deletion. it's lio! | talk | work 10:11, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:42, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Let's look at our relevant guideline: this list meets the requirements of WP:NLIST. The subject of the list, Dabzee's music, is notable. About half of the items are either backed up by references or by blue links to existing articles. The other half need refs or blue links to reliable articles and that can be fixed Deletion ≠ cleanup. Finally, if this information were instead merged into Dabzee's main article, it will become too large. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 23:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, per WP:NLIST criterias met as cited above. If there are sources, we must help by searching and improving them as deletion is totally different per WP:NPOSSIBLE.
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- ^ "Indian rapper asks 'Talha Kaun?', Talha Anjum responds with a brutal diss track". Images.Dawn.com. Dawn Media Group. 21 May 2025. Retrieved 23 May 2025.
- ^ "Young Stunners' new Album Rebirth is a must listen". Samaa TV.
- ^ "Open Letter - Talha Anjum [Album Review]".
- ^ "Open Letter Talha Anjum's album blend of hip-hop and Urdu poetry".
- ^ "Umair and Jokhay The man behind the rise of Talha Anjum amd Talha Younas".