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Vijay Nahar

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Orignal creator of this article was blocked for WP:COI and WP:PROMO. This persons fails WP:GNG as well as WP:AUTHOR, due to lack of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Also most of the sources on this article are not about him, hence checked carefully. It may be created for undisclosed payments because this article creator also created articles on his multiple books which are also nothing more than promotion. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR TheSlumPanda (talk) 02:19, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Narendra Chaudhary (soldier)

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Does not meet criteria for notability, reliability, or reliable sources. The single English language source is of extremely poor quality. Audrey Woolf (talk) 00:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jim Rathmann (investigator)

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Non notable either for his military career or investigative career. His only mentions are in passing in relation to a popular case and his military career obviously doesn't qualify. CUPIDICAE❤️ 20:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I couldn't find any sources that provide specific and independent coverage of Rathmann to justify and article. Cortador (talk) 21:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only thing that's missing from this WP:LINKEDIN-like article is some football-based life advice about championships and the goal line. I've never seen a BLP with so many sources (65 cites among 40 sources, but most of them are just pay-for-play morning newscast hits or incidental mentions) end up so hollow. Also incredibly clear that the main editor of this article just didn't come upon the subject as a cool guy to profile without some financial assistance. Nathannah • 📮 23:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the excessive sourcing-non-sourcing is a pretty telling-tale sign of complete fuckin' nonsense. CUPIDICAE❤️ 23:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Arsenault

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Wikipedia is not news. WP:NOTNEWS. Most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion, and also WP:BLP1E, although he just recently died, the guideline is still applicable. There is only coverage in the context of a single event, and subject is more than likely to remain a low-profile individual. Isaidnoway (talk) 20:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I would disagree with this point. Many of the news outlets also included in-depth coverage of this person's life. They are all reliable secondary sources.

The fact that the person was incredibly notable within the rescue community does not make him any less notable. He was a prominent figure, and his contributions were widely known. It is very unfortunate that he received global attention only after his death. Nonetheless, that does not make him any less notable. He had been one of the most prominent rescuers in the country and in the state of New York for almost 20 years.

As Wikipedia guidelines state, notability is not something Wikipedia can create or confer. He was a notable individual, and his work received recognition. The fact that his work received global media coverage after his death, does not make him less notable .

There are a lot of news, and I agree Wikipedia is not a news site. But many sources cover his life and what he did, and how contributed to the rescue community.

I did not know about him until he died, but after reading all the sources providing detailed descriptions of his 20 years of work, I decided to create this page, to honor his legacy and contributions. It is an unusual case, he was saving animals and not people. Animals do not usually get into the news as much. Moondust342 (talk) 20:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A quick google returned older sources, too. Newsday in 2016, CBS New York in 2016, apparently some Animal Planet show in 2017, The Dodo in 2018... The fire was covered by the AP and was picked up by various national media. Unclear if the article should be Happy Cat Sanctuary or Chris Arsenault. Not 100% sure we're at WP:ORG or WP:BIO yet, but it's not just a one event situation at least. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I found an older article from 2023 writing about Chris. It is obvious that he did not receive an Oscar or something similar, but he seems to be a prominent rescuer widely known in the entire state of New York. https://sociallifemagazine.com/2023/01/28/11232/ This situation made me cry when I saw it in the news.

I was hesitant to create a page about the sanctuary itself for WP:ORG because it had burned down. From what I understood from the news, he was working on building a new location for the sanctuary, and that’s where the surviving cats would be moved. Moondust342 (talk) 21:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also found a New York Post article from 2018. https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/man-transforms-his-house-into-sanctuary-for-300-cats/

Daily Mail 2016 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5346251/Medford-man-opens-cat-sanctuary-300-felines.html

Metro 2018 https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/05/man-transforms-home-sanctuary-300-cats-7288992/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moondust342 (talk • contribs) 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete: The sanctuary might be notable, most articles are about that rather than the person himself. These are mostly local sources, there isn't much about him outside of the area. The foreign articles used for sourcing are about the shelter/rescue. Oaktree b (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These 3 sources are about him specifically, him as a rescuer, and history of building a sanctuary. Besides, there are no limitations as to local sources to establish notability on Wikipedia. All these sources are reliable secondary sources covering the subject - the man. If his occupation is rescuing cats and he is notable for that, with wide coverage, there doesn’t need to be ten articles about his childhood or some kind of life outside it—because that’s irrelevant.

1.https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/man-transforms-his-house-into-sanctuary-for-300-cats/

2.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5346251/Medford-man-opens-cat-sanctuary-300-felines.html

3https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/05/man-transforms-home-sanctuary-300-cats-7288992/ Moondust342 (talk) 22:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're not going to help your case much with those three. See WP:DAILYMAIL, WP:NYPOST, WP:METRO. But just to be clear, Oaktree b the content doesn't change that much if it's about the person or the sanctuary, since the sanctuary is just this person's house. The either/or becomes a question of whether this should be moved/rescoped, not deleted (not that I'm fully persuaded to keep yet myself). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not trying to contradict you. Just adding more information. In addition to the sources you added @Rhododendrites, I also added some to the article. Plus these sources are dated between 2013-2024. It is clear that his work as a rescuer has received coverage over the years, along with recognition for his efforts. I feel uncomfortable to say that the subject is not notable "enough" for a Wikipedia page, while he has been widely discussed by the press prior to this and on international level, especially after his death.

Out of the 20 or so sources listed in the article, I think are at least about 4–5 clearly reliable sources that provide detailed coverage sufficient to establish the notability of Chris Arsenault as a prominent rescuer.

Question is how much more coverage a rescuer saving animals can get for his efforts? If you try to google other cat rescuers, it would be hard to find many people with the same coverage he has. There is ABC, CBS, Animal planet. I'd say, objectively, this is the most coverage a prominent cat rescuer can get. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and his contributions clearly seem to be worth recording. I'm just a random person who was touched by his story.

Many people worldwide are Googling this person now, wanting to read about him. It is harder for people to find older articles because all the recent coverage is about his tragic death. I think this article has merit.

Plus, even the WP:NYPOST articles do not seem to have some kind of promotional language, or paid notes, rather than just sharing a story about a man with 300 cats.

https://telegrafi.com/en/ktheu-shtepine-ne-strehe-luksoze-per-300-mace-nder-tjerash-shtreter-dhe-pula-te-pjekura-ne-darke-foto-video/

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/this-man-runs-a-cat-sanctuary-out-of-his-house/

https://iheartcats.com/man-creates-a-sanctuary-for-homeless-cats-in-honor-of-the-son-he-lost/?srsltid=AfmBOopfxPqzg17p1fqqc6fiOGOFRtg_PUu6iy_CCej6zlhEgcYuJzrC

https://www.odditycentral.com/animals/new-york-man-turns-his-home-into-a-sanctuary-for-hundreds-of-cats.html Moondust342 (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I suppose the points above are valid, I don't really see notability, just a guy that had lots of cats. Oaktree b (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Fletcher

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All coverage (which is weak) is of the internet show he created—not of him. Non-notable. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - not notable. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 23:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ponnar Shankar

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Article is poorly written and fails GNG. GoldRomean (talk) 17:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete per WP:TNT To explain, Ponnar and Shankar are two twin brothers who are the subject of a Tamil epic poem, and this folk story is actually what the article is attempting to refer to. It should be named something like Ponnar Shankar (poem), or perhaps as the Tamil language article calls it, "Annamar Sami Kathai". The poem is the inspiration for the film Ponnar Shankar (film). It actually seems like the poem might be notable as there is a book by Brenda Beck just about the epic. However, the article as it stands literally links exclusively to sources which discuss the film - the few I looked at do not even include a passing mention the poem which inspired it. Very much open to a keep on WP:HEY grounds, I just unfortunately do not have time to salvage the article. Flip^and Flopped ツ 00:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aluka (gamer)

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Non-notable; found no secondary coverage ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:24, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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HDStarcraft

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Non-notable ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There seems to be no independent coverage of this person. I only see them being briefly mentioned in the context of tournaments. Cortador (talk) 21:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kala Manickam

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Subject fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. There are no sources that cover the subject substantially. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I have not fully added onto the page yet - but there's a lot more sources from local media about her, hence there is certainly a lot more sources to add Aidanic (talk) 00:11, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret M. Otteskov

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Subject fails WP:NPOL and I could not find sufficient sources to establish the criteria for WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear @Vanderwaalforces, Kindly recheck those references before nominating the article for deletion!

Also, kindly note that I have added a few more citations. Micheal Kaluba (talk) 18:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tiffany Trump

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WP:INVALIDBIO and WP:NOTINHERITED. Barron Trump was recently closed as a redirect, and many of the arguments for he being redirected apply to Tiffany as well: the article isn't very long, she isn't in the public eye very much, and coverage of her invariably mentions her father. Both Barron and Tiffany are adults now. Some presidential children have their own articles; many do not. Her notability hasn't been discussed in nine years (during which there were multiple Barron AfDs) so discussing it now seems fair. _pbp 14:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep; the decision with respect to Barron Trump has since been reversed, and in any case this is both an WP:OTHERSTUFF assertion, and one where the subject at hand is clearly more notable. BD2412 T 14:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the assertion "clearly more notable" needs some evidence backing it up... _pbp 16:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One of the complaints about Barron in the discussion was that he kept a politically lower profile, whereas she was a speaker at the Republican National Convention, with the requisite press coverage. BD2412 T 17:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tiffany in turn keeps a much lower profile than Junior, Eric and Ivanka though... _pbp 19:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - She was already deemed notable by the community in two previous AfD attempts, becoming so thanks to media coverage the first time her father ran for President, and notability is not temporary. While she is less political than the rest of the family, her fashion business and occasional speeches in connection with her father have generated media coverage. Also, a person's love or hatred of the limelight is not part of the notability calculus, and we do not have a mathematical formula here for how "low" or "high" someone's profile should be. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Sufficient WP:SIGCOV to estabilishes WP:GNG per her own. Svartner (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liu Sai

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This entry has no other references, and the person is not an important figure in history, so it may not meet the inclusion criteria. Babaibiaobin (talk) 06:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:POLITICIAN and totally undiscernible to English readers. — Maile (talk) 16:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lacks sources, fails WP:N and WP:V. RolandSimon (talk) 03:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

José Luis Ricón

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Dubious notability. The Org seems to be the equivalent of a LinkedIn page, and the Future page does not provide any notable information. Many of the citations in the article are not verified in the sources, such as the claim of a "widely cited resource" Longevity FAQ. In addition, I have reason to believe this might be a trolling attempt, due to the creation of a prediction market on if the article will survive to the end of the year (https://manifold.markets/infiniteErgodicity/will-the-wikipedia-article-for-jose) Duckduckgoop (talk) 02:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Joseph Freeman (Mormon)

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Fails WP:NBIO. This person does not appear to be notable except in connection with the 1978 Revelation on Priesthood and the content of this article should therefore be merged into that one. Jbt89 (talk) 23:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Matthew Evans (Australian politician)

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Subject fails WP:NPOL for not occupying any notable political office, and WP:GNG for not having sufficient sources that satisfy WP:IRS and covers them substantially. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Deputy mayors are rarely notable and no inherent notability. Fails WP:NPOL. LibStar (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Kissinger

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Subject does not appear to meet WP:SPORTSBASIC, with the current sources either being databases or primary to the teams he played or coached. Let'srun (talk) 19:06, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:29, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Ferrer

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Non-notable person. Doesn't meet WP:GNG because none of the sources discuss him as a person, but simply mention his job title and/or are articles writrten by him. The man himself has not received significant coverage. Doesn't meet WP:AUTHOR. Doesn't meat WP:ANYBIO. Amisom (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete could not find any significant discussion about the subject in all of the references. Those passing mentions are not enough to pass for WP:ANYBIO. Mekomo (talk) 07:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Rohr

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While accomplished, I cannot find enough in-depth coverage to show they meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I went through the first four pages of googlehits and there is probably something to work with [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Geschichte (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Rohr is, as the nom said, accomplished, and the reliable sources available from a google search are enough to pass GNG. I agree with Geschicte and support a Keep of this article with a possible nudge to continue work on it.Iljhgtn (talk) 15:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sources in the comment above seem ok, enough to confirm notability. They're in German but easy enough to translate. Oaktree b (talk) 18:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article now includes coverage from multiple sources covering 15+ years: Tages-Anzeiger (×3), Aargauer Zeitung, SRF, and Schweizer Illustrierte (all WP:RS). The subject’s work as a TV presenter, journalist, photographer, and communications consultant is covered in sufficient depth to meet WP:GNG. HerBauhaus (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jawad_Hassan

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No indication of notability, poor sources. Jan Kameníček (talk) 08:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Kardong

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This article is just talking more about who the subject collabed with in music rather that about himself. And looking for sources on him, I didn't find any sources on him. GamerPro64 05:52, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TNT. This page can not be fixed by ordinary editing. It's as if the creator has never actually read a Wikipedia article. WP:NOTRESUME. Bearian (talk) 14:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Israr Khan

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I don’t believe that this page meets the notability criteria for Wikipedia, as the notability is President of the Oxford Union only, and that the majority of such persons do not have an article. This indicates a consensus that being President of the Oxford Union is not itself notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page. Daniel.villar7 (talk) 23:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I second this. The individual is not relevant for an encyclopedia, as his only achievement so far is the Oxford Union presidency. A soft delete is more than obvious. DarkLordOfTheHacks (talk) 23:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's not really a good reading of consensus—topics without coverage on WIkipedia are not presumed non-notable by de facto consensus. He also has more significant achievements than his presidency of the Oxford Union—he was appointed ambassador-at-large for Youth Empowerment by Pakistan's Prime Minister. I think this person meets the notability criteria for the significant positions he's held. Keep. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just so nobody rushes to close this: there is an open sockpuppet investigation into the nominator and other voter. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to make it clear that the Sockpuppet investigation has been closed because it was determined by admins that there weren’t grounds to suspect that sock puppetry was occurring. I was refraining from

commenting again in this page until that investigation ended.

If you look at the list of Pakistani ambassadors of any sort, you’ll see the majority do not have Wikipedia pages, and those which do tend to be have either been ambassador to states like the USA or held other major offices like foreign minister. Ambassador at larger is an honorific title; indeed a quick perusal of news sites suggests that the honour can be given for being a compliant taxpayer in Pakistan (https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1205603-48-prominent-business-figures-made-ambassadors-at-large), which clearly wouldn’t be notable enough to merit a page. I therefore don’t think that position, nor the Presidency of the Oxford Union, fall under the “The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor” for notability purposes. Daniel.villar7 (talk) 03:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to make a point on the sourcing; sources 1,3,5,6 are all primary sources which can’t establish notability, and source 4 is a news article reporting the existence of source 2, which makes it effectively one source. So we have one source which could potentially be used to establish notability, which hardly falls under the in depth coverage from one or multiple secondary sources required to establish notability. At a push if you consider source 4 to be fully separate from source 2, which I don’t think you can, then you have limited coverage from 2 secondary sources, and the Wikipedia:Notability (people) policy clearly states that “trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.” Daniel.villar7 (talk) 03:34, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Inclined to agree with Zanahary, I think that the appointment as Ambassador at large for example clearly meets the notability criteria. Aspirant006 (talk) 13:27, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I do believe that this page meets the notability criteria, the person in question is not only notable for the presidency of the Oxford Union, but as also pointed out, for their appointment as ambassador-at-large for Youth Empowerment by Pakistan's Prime Minister. Furthermore, as Oxford Union President, they were the first ever from Balochistan, which I believe adds to the notability. Keep Aspirant006 (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This article has no sources that indicate notoriety through WP:SIGCOV. This ambassadorship-at-large from Pakistan is an honorary appointment and fails to meet the criteria for notability in addition to his Oxford Union presidency. DarkLordOfTheHacks (talk) 23:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DLOTH, how did you find this deletion discussion within one minute of its posting? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, hello Zanahary. Second, coincidences happen. A late evening reviewing bios on notable people who have presided this student-led institution, and I find out that a very recent president has an article, and I stumble into the discussion having just been created above his bio. Thirdly, responding to the sockpuppet allegations, the investigation has been closed. Instead of speculating, I suggest moving forward with the discussion. DarkLordOfTheHacks (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TOOSOON. The arguments to keep are untenable "I like it because it's interesting". Bearian (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Notability doesn't seem to be demonstrated from the sources. Re: his Union Presidency and other activities at Oxford, the sources aren't independent and reliable sources: they're Union and University websites, and may be reliable with respect to biographical information but not with respect to showing notability. Furthermore, they don't represent 'significant coverage', since they only note that he was President, is a DPhil student, has been called to the Bar. Many people have done each of these things - many, indeed, have done all three! - but aren't notable enough to secure articles. The Pakistani government position is referenced by two sources, both news sites, but on closer inspection it's the same article and the same author (so still fails the presumption test in WP:N because there are not multiple reliable sources). On a more substantive point, that's an honorary position, and governments appoint many such persons without any guarantee of a lasting or substantial impact. Symmyst (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jani Galik

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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 04:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of New England Revolution players – As suggested in similar AfD. Svartner (talk) 09:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with this. Giant Snowman 11:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Svartner. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I tried to update it a bit with a couple new sources I found, but probably not enough RedPatch (talk) 13:34, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mademoiselle Boop

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Does not meet GNG or ANYBIO. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Susan (drag queen)

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Does not meet notability criteria. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. No notability demonstrated in the present sources. Svartner (talk) 08:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Arguably passes WP:CREATIVE because of an international tour. Bearian (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which part of WP:CREATIVE? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:15, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shyam Sunder Vyas

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This article was created almost 10 years ago and till now the referencing of article hasn’t improved. I also removed two bare urls from this article. On WP:BEFORE, i didn't found any sources about the subject except this^[1], which is repository data and dosent establish notability. This subject fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG TheSlumPanda (talk) 15:00, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unsourced article. Nothing is found in Wp:BEFORE. Zuck28 (talk) 22:46, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No sources on the page. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nauroz Khan

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Article is barely comprehensible and topic shows little significance/notability, no reliable source coverage GoldRomean (talk) 14:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This article has NO newspaper or third-party independent reliable sources as references, what I saw was just personal opinions used as references. Very biased and unbalanced article....Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:01, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The subect is clearly notable in the Wikipedia sense, as shown by a search in Google Books. A search in Google images shows a high level of general interest. Articles on controversial subjects like this attract biased editors using poor sources, or no sources at all. That is a reason to improve and police the article, not to delete it. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rameshwar Dadich

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He has not been elected to any state/national wide office. He was a mayor of Jodhpur district for which there should be significant coverage about the subject in secondary sources to establish notability. On WP:BEFORE, i found that almost all sources about him are about joining BJP and due to being close aide of former cm Ashok Gehlot. This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL TheSlumPanda (talk) 08:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Mayor could be notable, but there is no sourcing to be found. Once source in the article, and this was all I could pull up [6], which still doesn't show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cho Hee-soo

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I have conducted a WP:BEFORE search to assess the notability of this article. I searched in Google, Naver News, and English-language Korean news sources including The Korea Herald, Yonhap News, and KBS World using both English ("Cho Hee-soo rhythmic gymnast") and Korean ("조희수 리듬체조") keywords.

The only results available are routine coverage from sports result listings and minor announcements in domestic outlets. There are no significant independent sources that offer in-depth coverage or analysis of the subject.

According to WP:NSPORTS (Wikipedia:Notability for sportspeople), an athlete is presumed notable if they have "received significant coverage in multiple, reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Cho Hee-soo has not met this threshold. The article does not demonstrate lasting impact or significant coverage beyond simple event participation.

Therefore, I believe this article does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline (WP:GNG) nor the specific guideline for athletes (WP:NSPORTS) and should be deleted. Jeong seolah (talk) 06:10, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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KC Nwakalor

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Non notable photojournalist whose works are paid for projects by organizations and only attributed to him and the organizations he works for. All of the cited sources do not discuss him and his works directly or indirectly but only attributed to him. The attribution is a standard practice acknowledging copyright owners and cannot be used for notability CPDJay (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sambucha

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Declined PROD. Non-notable YouTuber. A WP:BEFORE shows a lack of coverage in reliable sources, and notability is clearly lacking. No evidence that subject warrants a standalone article. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree that Sambucha appears to lack notability. The two sources that could qualify are the nytimes article about influencers going a different route than Mr Beast and the LADBible coverage of his AI experiment. These articles are not enough to merit inclusion under WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE, so I recommend deletion.

Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:29, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anonrfjwhuikdzz wouldn’t the UNILAD reference qualify too? Plant🌱man (talk) 15:37, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. LADBible and UNILAD are under the same company, and I'm not sure they're considered reliable. Could be worth a discussion. The UNILAD article read like "youtuber did thing" so I didn't really think it establishes notability for a biography of an influencer. Arguably the LADBible article is should also be discounted as it is similar in that it discusses "youtuber did AI thing" Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 18:44, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, fair enough. Plant🌱man (talk) 00:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Even though he has millions of subscribers, that does not mean he is notable. An editor from Mars (talk) 04:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm a fan and a subscriber of the guy but yeah non-notable indeed. No RS coverage on GNews. Sorry Sam. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:23, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - A simple search didn't provide significant non trivial reliable coverage. Dam222 🌋 (talk) 14:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not delete. I believe that the article should be at least improved, and not deleted. But if it can't be, then delete. Quincy2293 (talk) 22:22, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Sambucha is quite possibly my favourite YouTuber, but the fact that most of his sources are YouTube tells me that he does not meet the notability criteria atm. Despite there being possibly 3 examples of reliable SIGCOV in the references, the YouTube links far outnumber them. Additionally, Draft:Sambucha has been declined multiple times, and Sambucha was formerly a redirect to Shoenice, but it got deleted per this RfD discussion, after which this article was created. Plant🌱man (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

James Cage White

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WP:GNG: Google News, cites already on page include chance mentions and one-off articles. This existing coverage is sporadic and non-significant. Should be mentioned that main Google search indicates this individual is considered a niche lolcow. /over.throws/^they+✎ 18:00, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete ：I did not find this person in the news or other sources and he may not meet the notability guidelines --Babaibiaobin (talk) 06:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG. Many sources seem to not be reliable.

Skyscraper Aficionado (talk) 14:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article cites several dubiously reliable and unreliable sources. This article in The Tab, which is dubiously reliable according to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 324#Deprecate The Tab? and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 198#The Tab student newspaper. This article was published in The Daily Dot, which the community has not reached consensus on reliability based on WP:DAILYDOT. This article was published in Digg, which is a news aggregator. This article in The Guardian provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. I think these sources by themselves are insufficient for an article about a WP:BLP. I was unable to find additional sources in my searches for sources. The subject's Chinese name, 程曦, returns many results about topics unrelated to the subject which makes it harder to find Chinese sources. I was unable to find sufficient coverage in reliable sources to support retaining the article about James Cage White, also known as Cheng Xi (Chinese: 程曦). Cunard (talk) 07:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Musa Al Hafiz

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I checked the references and determined that all but a few of them have a 404 error, and the remainder link to book-selling sites. Book-selling sites are not acceptable sources, according to WP:RS. (Reference 5 and 9 have a 404 error, and 3, 4, and 6 are book-selling sites.) Further, no independent, third-party publication or news source providing evidence regarding his published books and claimed prizes. Only ref no.2 can be opened, but it starts https://barta24.com/, and no such newspaper as Barta24 exists in the List of newspapers in Bangladesh.
Musa Al Hafiz had been characterized as a poet, researcher, and chairman of the Bangladesh Islamic History and Culture Olympiad. None of the above claims exist in the form of any such significant, independent, or neutral source. Wikipedia policy WP:NBIO declares that a piece of work or a contribution by a particular individual must be significant enough on the international or national level so that the individual deserves an article. But such recognition is absent here.
Tone in the article ("born once in a thousand years", "extraordinary poet is a rare gem") contradicts Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy since they are promotionally biased. There is no published source or evidence that can be used to support the assertion. It appears that it had been authored largely for self-promotion.
I could not trace any publication date and review copy of his books (such as Mukti Anonde Amio Hasbo and Mrityur Janmodin) in any national repository.
This piece clearly appears to be self-promotional. It therefore disregards the spirit of Wikipedia (WP:NOTPROMO). It does not provide useful content but instead misinforms people with unverifiable information.

For all the reasons stated above, I think this article does not meet Wikipedia's standards and should be deleted under WP:Notability (people), WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion, point 5. Somajyoti ✉ 15:00, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP. There are a small number of sources but they do indicate notability.

Isoceles-sai (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the reason. Take another look. Somajyoti ✉ 15:02, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't see how the sources indicate notability per WP:NBIO. None of the nominee's arguments have been addressed. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 18:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Delete at this time. There are apparent insurmountable problems. A lot of promotional wording and Puffery. These include "profound influence", wording like "he remained deeply engaged" and "prestigious Bishwanath Jamia Madania" (both unsourced). The source for "Moreover, numerous poets, writers, and intellectuals have reflected on his poetry and literary contributions at various times." returns an error. The state of an article does not determine the notability of a person. However, when this is questioned and a before search is performed, the burden shifts. See comments. -- Otr500 (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Chess. I don't see if the subject meets WP:NBIO. ZDRX _{(User) |}_(Contact) 06:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

When attempting to investigate barta24 (a web portal), I kept hitting blocks that included instances that barta24 "refused to connect".

Author: I did find some possible subject-authored books, that could satisfy "author, poet, and writer", but they were only listed at the online bookstore Prothoma. These issues were mentioned by Nom.

I could not verify "researcher and scholar". The page for the "Daily Star" had the subject's name with "Poet and researcher", and nothing else. The "dailysylhet.com" (concerning awards) lists the subject as a prominent poet, researcher, and theoretical orator. For someone with such accolades, it would seem sources would not be elusive. The unsourced quote in the "Critical Acclaim" section needs to go.

A rationale of "keep" with "a small number of sources but they do indicate notability" does not satisfy the requirement of significant coverage in independent and reliable sources. It is next to impossible to verify a neutral point of view when sources cannot be found. -- Otr500 (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abhishek Awasthi

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Subject fails WP:NPOL for not occupying any notable political office, and WP:GNG for not having sufficient sources that satisfy WP:IRS and covers them substantially. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. Abhiimanyu7 (talk) 17:14, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Both appear to be rather minor political positions, this person wouldn't pass NPOL. They exist and have coverage, but nothing notable about them. Oaktree b (talk) 18:57, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Subject holds position in a notable city, and has coverage by both Australian an Indian media. There are more than enough sources to indicate that the subject holds notability in more than just passing mentions in media. Viatori (talk) 22:10, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All cities in Wikipedia are notable, so that's a useless claim for inherent notability. LibStar (talk) 10:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As per nomination. Deputy mayor of a city is not a notable position as per Wp:NPOL. Zuck28 (talk) 01:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete don't see evidence of notable achievements to meet WP:BIO. Not inherently notable as deputy mayor. LibStar (talk) 10:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Awasthi's status as Deputy Mayor, as opposed to Mayor, of Bendigo means he falls short of WP:NPOL guidelines. Mr Sitcom (talk) 10:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject fails WP:NPOL, I can not see enough in-depth coverage from reliable sources. B-Factor (talk) 12:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails to meet WP:NPOL. RangersRus (talk) 14:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:POLOUTCOMES. The subject is the deputy mayor of a city of 120,000 people. The growing consensus has been to delete the articles of similar nature. Sorry. Bearian (talk) 21:39, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom , Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Azu Punia

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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of SIG COV in secondary reliable sources also this article was created by a user named Azu Punia (same as article name) so there could be chances of WP:COI TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - History shows article was created in mainspace, then moved into Draft, then back to mainspace - all by same user. JoeNMLC (talk) 13:56, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, possibly speedy. No assertion of notability. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: Agree with nomination, No sign of notability. Delete article and block the creator. Zuck28 (talk) 01:16, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but don't block -- assertions of notability are not enough for GNG nor WP:PROF, but no sign of malicious creation nor neglect of WP guidelines. The "Signs of Resiliance" article is a hint at notability, but not enough (by a long shot) for a pass. Stand by delete, but not seeing enough disruption for a block, assuming good faith. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Reads more like resume and WP:PROMO. Nothing notable here. RangersRus (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chhagan Mehetre

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Not elected to any state level or national level assembly or office. Lacks WP:SIGCOV in secondary reliable sources thus fails, WP:GNG TheSlumPanda (talk) 11:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: Non notable politician. He contested an election but lost, hence failing Wp:NPOL. Zuck28 (talk) 01:25, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. Sources on the page are poor and I cannot find subject's work as politician that has made any significant impact and achievement to be worthy of notice. RangersRus (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - we have deleted articles of winning candidates for mayor, and those of candidates for state office who received 45% of the vote. This guy has done much less. Bearian (talk) 21:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:NPOL and Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to passWP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:40, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Instone

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Business person does business things. Previously PROD'd as non-notable, then restored. Now tagged for notability. Let the discussion begin. Fails WP:SIGCOV so fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 11:49, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit have been made to this, does it now meet the criteria for notability? GCatemAll (talk) 09:16, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who initially nominated it for deletion after coming across it by chance. I don’t know Mr Instone and have no issues with him, but I continue to believe that as the owner or manager of a small business with very limited exposure outside of that (a few podcasts or articles), he does not meet the criteria for notability (people). There are tens of thousands of people like him. 2A04:EE41:84:B3DE:FD56:1C17:3C88:4BDD (talk) 14:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I see at least four references from reliable sources. Is there not significant coverage? Ping me. Bearian (talk) 21:57, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearian: What's needed is layed out in WP:SIRS. To wit, the sources must be WP:RS, yes, but also provide WP:SIGCOV and be WP:IS. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is one reference about the "field-marshal of finance". The rest (at least what I can see) appear to be passing mentions. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete per above discussion. The first source is good, but more is needed for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 14:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michel Soto Chalhoub

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Created by a single purpose account. I don't believe he meets WP:BIO. Could only find namesakes in google news and books searches. LibStar (talk) 09:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete – The SPA component of this discussion is troubling. The article's creator has zero edits in the encyclopedia other than this article, and the text that was contributed is laden with puffery, suggesting a close connection to the subject. Dawnseeker2000 08:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no reliable sources, and much of it is unsourced information in violation of WP:BLP. Bearian (talk) 22:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Bautista Cambiaso Valdez

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Can't find any in-depth coverage of this person from independent, reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jack Andraka

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Does not meet notability standards per WP:BLP and WP:GNG. The subject is only notable for a single event - his 2012 science fair project claiming a novel pancreatic cancer detection method. This work was never peer-reviewed, published in scientific journals, or developed into actual clinical use. Leading experts including Ira Pastan (discoverer of mesothelin) stated his method "makes no scientific sense" and his patent application was rejected for "lack of inventive step". Brief media attention without sustained coverage per WP:SUSTAINED or lasting significant does not establish notability. Madeleine (talk) 00:17, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Wikipedia's inclusion criteria is that the subject of the article has to be the subject of media as described in WP:GNG. This person meets that criteria. They were profiled for being gay in Metro Weekly, Francis Collins profiled them for their views on on open access, and the The Colbert Report presented their general life as interesting. Media reported their being the guest of president Obama. All of this is in addition to specific coverage they got about the science. What anyone thinks of the science is not a consideration for Wikipedia, and in fact, if there is criticism of their science then that is just more media to cite and more reason for them to have an article. Wikipedia does not judge whether someone's work is correct or valid; we just keep articles when people get media coverage.

About sustainable media coverage - they got attention for long enough to meet Wikipedia's definition of "sustained", and being in the media for a lifetime thereafter is not required. When a young person gets media attention and they are gay, then they always get death threats based on politics and religion. This person undoubtedly experienced that. Whether that was a convincing reason for them to avoid media attention would be speculation, but it definitely happened because it always happens, and it is never surprising when a young gay person disappears from media because the threats so often lead to that. Bluerasberry (talk) 01:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Under "Awards and recognition" , I added his being seated in First Lady Michelle Obama's box at the 2013 State of the Union Address. — Maile (talk) 03:29, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment, but I do not believe winning an award is sufficient to claim notability per WP:BLP1E, especially since the award in question was given due to his 2012 science fair project. Madeleine (talk) 03:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Bluerasberry — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 12:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raseshwari Devi Ji

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This article does not meet WP:GNG. The coverage in the article and in BEFORE is limited to tabloid sources, trivial mentions, or unbylined coverage from WP:NEWSORGINDIA sources. The third reference (Times Now) is a paid article which is not independent or reliable for establishing notability. Junbeesh (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for lack of reliable sources as well as no Odia language article from which to translate. Bearian (talk) 20:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swadesh Bharati

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Poet that fails WP:GNG WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 13:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Some hints of notability, but this was all I could find [7], very brief mention. Being indexed in the VIAF shows this person is listed in other libraries, but doesn't help notability. I don't see anything else. The unsourced article isn't helping Oaktree b (talk) 14:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Gladys Le Mare

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Notability ash (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I've proposed this for deletion as it doesn't appear to establish more than a passing notability. The only two facts about her are that she is the co-founder of an organisation and a magazine. The stub hasn't been expanded in the last 15 years. Also, only one page appears to link to this page. Suggest a Wikidata page would be sufficient. Alternatively, the stub could be added to the page for the Society.

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Weak keep: the Malayan Nature Journal pops up in Gscholar where this person is mentioned [8] as the editor. This [9] and [[10]] are both by the same author but appear to show notabililty. Oaktree b (talk) 14:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Might meet notability as the editor of the Malayan Nature Journal, PROF, but I don't remember which point it is exacly (C3?) Oaktree b (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Editorship is C8. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - in addition to the information found by User:Oaktree b, her two early publications (writing as Gladys Keay) on mites were cited by others in the scientific literature. I have added those citations. DaffodilOcean (talk) 00:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Double-digit numbers of citations are generally insufficient to make a case for WP:PROF#C1 notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, I think this contributes to notability, particularly since those papers were written in a time when citation counts were lower. In my mind, the points raised by Oaktree b are the best discussion notes for a keep argument. DaffodilOcean (talk) 15:16, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep meets WP:NPROF#C8, especially given the time when she lived. Nnev66 (talk) 15:04, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree with the comments above. Bduke (talk) 23:35, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: co-founder of society, notable contributions to entomology. PamD 07:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per arguments of Nnev66 and PamD: for a female scientist from the 1940s and 1950s the notability and sourcing is sufficient. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 09:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as meeting WP:NPROF#C8. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have added some more sources and biographical info. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Albalag

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No known sources exist in this article. It contains some general references but lacks inline citations, which means its near to not becoming notable on Wikipedia. Editz2341231 (talk) 20:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Keep. The subject is clearly notable. I will add inline citations shortly. -- -- -- 22:40, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Please notify me if anything else needs to be done to save the article from deletion. Thanks in advance, -- -- -- 23:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per above work, but also hits in Oxford Reference (Dictionary of the Jewish Religion (2 ed.), Dictionary of the Middle Ages) to corroborate. ‒overthrows 20:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. The subject of the article has entries in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, The Oxford Dictionary of the Middle Ages, and The Jewish Encyclopedia. [11] [12] [13] No evidence of WP:BEFORE. GeorgiaHuman (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Historically notable subject. Has entries in tertiary sources on history. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aditi Saigal

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This is a case of Wp:TOOSOON. Just one film as acting career and one ep for that she received some press coverage. Other than that she is daughter of singer and actor parents but notability is not inherited. Fails wp:NACTOR and Wp:NMUSIC as well. Zuck28 (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per WP:FORBES, Forbes is generally considered a reliable source and can see Forbes covering profile for this person in their article here ^[2] Circular Karma (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Mahotsav, Amrit (21 January 2025). "Shyam Sunder Vyas". Azadi Ka Amrit Mahotsav, Ministry of Culture, Government of India. Retrieved 4 April 2025.
^ https://www.forbesindia.com/article/30-under-30-2024/aditi-saigal-aka-dot-winning-with-words-and-melody/91751/1

Not all individuals featured in Forbes necessarily meet the eligibility threshold for a standalone Wikipedia article.

The subject must first satisfy the notability criteria outlined in Wikipedia's WP:Notability guidelines as a prerequisite for inclusion.

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Delete - Notability is not established per WP:NACTOR, WP:MUSICBIO nor WP:GNG. The sourcing consists of standard PR type promo that one would see for any emerging actor with a press agent, including Forbes, which is not significant coverage, it's simply a photo of her with a caption mentioning her name, thus trivial. The Forbes "profile" link above is more standard PR ~~written by "Forbes Staff", (it does not even have a by-line)~~. I agree with the nom that this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Perhaps in a few more years this emerging actor will become notable, but at this time, one acting role, Spotify "fans" and famous parents is not enough. Netherzone (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does have a byline and in my view counts as one piece of significant reliable sources coverage. Another reliable bylined piece in the Hindu here, another bylined piece here, leaning Keep for WP:GNG rather than WP:NACTOR imvAtlantic306 (talk) 20:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: One film is not sufficient to pass WP:NACTOR. Need at-least three feature films/web series/TV to comply WP:ACTOR. Forbes 30 Under 30 is paid. Bakhtar40 (talk) 18:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General comment: Two is enough. Guideline says: "multiple" not "several". -Mushy Yank. 14:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: coverage has her meet WP:GNG. At worst a redirect to The_Archies_(film)#Cast is totally warranted so opposed to deletion. -Mushy Yank. 14:38, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails to meet WP:NACTRESS. RangersRus (talk) 18:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Charlton

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Fails WP:BIO, Fails WP:V, And my WP:BEFORE failed to find anything significant. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 09:21, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agreed, no significant coverage. The best I can find is a primary source confirming that he has written for Listen Against. Tacyarg (talk) 10:03, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can only find articles about someone with the same name that works for a "Brothers and Sisters" agency in London, nothing about this person. Sourcing used in the article is not helpful, it's only one source and doesn't show notability anyway. Oaktree b (talk) 13:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No meaningful sources found. Most hits are about the other, unrelated Matt Charlton. Clearly not a significantly notable individual. silviaASH (inquire within) 14:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I agree with the above. The subject does not meet WP:GNG, as there is no significant, independent, and sustained coverage available to establish notability. The only source in the article is primary and does not demonstrate the depth required. Most search results refer to a different individual with the same name, further confusing the issue. Without reliable, in-depth secondary sources focused on this person, the article does not warrant inclusion. Bhw664488 (talk) 13:13, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Phillip Sarofim

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Phillip Sarofim should be deleted because it lacks significant coverage from independent sources that demonstrate notable achievements, making the subject appear less relevant. Additionally, it contains excessive citations that detract from the clarity and conciseness of the information presented. 多少战场龙 (talk) 07:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Most of the coverage I find is around his time dating Avril Lavigne, all focused on her and who this "rich boyfriend/heir/insert noun here" was. I don't see coverage solely about his accomplishments. Oaktree b (talk) 14:00, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stryder7x

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. While some of the sourcing is reliable, the issue is that none of the reliable sourcing provides significant coverage of the article subject. For example, the extent of the Kotaku source's ([14]) discussion of the article subject is: "As Paper Mario expert Stryder7x explains in the video below" and "Stryder did just that on October 23, 2016". This and similar mentions are not enough coverage to write a reliably sourced biographical article. ~ A412 ^talk! 02:21, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Throwing in my own vote for deletion, as I can't argue with the reasoning provided. Prior to creating this article, I was surprised to find out that one had never been created for this subject, and I decided to just give it my best shot. Maybe one day he'll meet the notability criteria...if he ever comes back to the Internet. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 02:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per lack of significant coverage in sources. Madeleine (talk) 03:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Auerbach

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Contested BLAR of a BLP1E. Laun chba ller 22:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an odd case. Auerbach is notable for quite a few things (click above on Find sources: news), but none of that is in the article. As AfD is not WP:CLEANUP, I have to !vote Keep. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- This is where it gets complex. The article used to have that stuff in it. And ironically the very latest news source on the article subject is a piece in The Australian yesterday reporting that this article has just been heavily rewritten. Uncle G (talk) 00:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - I reverted an attempt to make this into a redirect without discussion. I have no opinion as to whether this subject is notable or non-notable, nor any necessary objection to the result here being a redirect. I do have a strong view about whether that de facto deletion should have been done outside of proper channels. Consider my action akin to contesting a PROD because it was a close enough call. Carrite (talk) 14:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I also think it was highly suboptimal or improper for the nominator here to gut the article before hauling it to AfD. This also is not the way that things should be done. Carrite (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Removing WP:BLP violations from articles is entirely the way that things should be done. Or do you really think that the (dead link) www.comedinewithme.com.au website would have described one of it's own participants as a "difficult and notoriously rude contestant"? As for the rest of the 'gutting', it removed absolutely nothing that related to the possible notability of the subject. Wikipedia isn't obliged to continue hosting promotional pap in articles just because there is an AfD going on. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:47, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - A WP:BLP1E about a former gameshow contestant who was denied a TV job... nothing about this stub tells me why this person is notable or why the redirect was unacceptable. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 17:28, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hint: Some of what is at Special:Permalink/1282926392 is verifiable. The article subject indeed used to work for Channel 7, and the Australian Daily Mail, and Daily Telegraph; and we know this because xyr professional career suddenly become fairly well documented around this time last year. Uncle G (talk) 22:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~. Nomination is based on the current state of the article instead of the question of the notability of the subject. Spotlight on Auerbach, Coke for comment, legal threat, Auerbach sues. duffbeerforme (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Struck due to the developing discussion. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I don't doubt the good faith of any unblocked participant here. Based on the only sources presented to date, is it really appropriate to host an article which is essentially a list of professional misdeeds? We are guided to discuss disagreements, and we certainly cover notable criminals, but where does this become a neutral BLP? BusterD (talk) 16:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd have to suggest that WP:BLP1E would apply, at most (we can safely ignore the gameshow contestant stuff, as covered perfectly well in the article on the show). Nobody seems to be suggesting that the underlying legal/journalistic ethics/whatever mess is obviously noteworthy (such things are sadly routine), and I thus fail to see how mere participation in it makes Auerbach notable. If Wikipedia hadn't already been hosting a policy-violating promotional fluff biography, we'd almost certainly have ignored the whole thing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - The sourcing is very difficult, too. There are other sources, but a lot of the sourcing available is tabloid newspapers reporting on the antics of people who used to work for tabloid newspapers. There are things like Morton 2024 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFMorton2024 (help) but there's an awful lot of useless "X said Y" stuff too. Is this one person the main subject? No, not per the non-tabloid sources anyway. Indeed, much of the coverage has basically been answering the Saeed 2024 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFSaeed2024 (help) headline when it comes to the court cases. But yes, the subject to consider is definitely not the game show. Uncle G (talk) 17:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - Morton, Rick (2024-04-06). "Inside the 'dirty strategy lunches in media city'". The Saturday Paper. No. 494.
    - Saeed, Daanyal (2024-03-26). "Who is Taylor Auerbach, the ex-Seven staffer at the centre of the Bruce Lehrmann Thai masseuse saga?". Crikey.
I've given this some thought and I really cannot decide whether directing readers to Bruce Lehrmann#Media appearances or 2021 Australian Parliament House sexual misconduct allegations#Legal proceedings or just plain deletion is the best answer. AndyTheGrump, Wikipedia definitely didn't ignore the underlying "omnishambles". ☺ Uncle G (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2nd question: Now knowing the longterm page-guiding editor is a proven bad actor, the other question is: was this page created to cover the subject or instead to injure the BLP subject? It's an unusual biography subject who earns notability primarily because of their miscues. It certainly does occur, but it's quite abnormal. BusterD (talk) 20:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In 2021 I had an experience at DYK when I was processing three articles for my QPQ and reviewed a page about a doctor BLP subject whose claim to notability was several malpractice claims. When I told the DYK submitter I needed to take some sources to RSN, the editor suddenly withdrew the nom. I checked in with an admin immediately afterwards and the page was quickly deleted as malicious disruption. BusterD (talk) 20:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- It doesn't really matter what the article creator's intentions were, unless there are some revisions that need deleting. We have the options:
  - Go with Launchballer's rewrite Special:Permalink/1283344671 which basically ignores the article subject's entire known career, and possibly try to expand it to include that career. The sourcing on the career is reliable, but the career on its own is just working for various news outlets; and we don't want to turn this into a lop-sided account of the "omnishambles". I don't favour this choice, myself.
  - Go with Launchballer's redirect at Special:Permalink/1283297913 which suffers from being quite a bizarre place to send readers, given how the subject is known. I don't favour this choice, either. I suspect that, people now knowing what the thing is that this person is really known in connection with, no-one else will think this to be a reasonable redirect target either.
  - Redirect to Bruce Lehrmann#Media appearances which is the context in which the article subject is known, albeit that xe isn't mentioned there at all.
  - Redirect to 2021 Australian Parliament House sexual misconduct allegations#Legal proceedings, again where the article subject isn't mentioned.
  - Just delete the entire thing outright.
- The reality is that this is a small ripple on the edge of a rather large splash, at 1 remove from its centre. Uncle G (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - In view of the options above by Uncle G, I note that the first redirect option is a poor choice, and the latter two do not mention the subject. We cannot redirect to pages that make no mention, so a merge would be required in those cases. The subject is a journalist but not a notable one. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and we certainly don't need to be covering non notable newspaper gossip. The content is not encyclopaedic. It can go. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This person is a WP:BLP1E example at best. Think deletion makes more sense than redirect, as the subject doesn't appear to be notable enough or at least sourced as such as to be associated with any targets. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which one of the multiple events are you referring to? duffbeerforme (talk) 01:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fewer than three reliable sources. I'm counting each News cycle as a source. Oddly, if this were 1925, or 1965, he'd probably have gotten ongoing coverage for fighting the big guy, but in 2025's Murdoch-dominated media environment, he's just another brick in the wall. This isn't a criticism of us; it's a critique of sickness in society. Bearian (talk) 15:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article here since 2011. Not much coverage and subject is not encyclopedic. Ramos1990 (talk)

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Vivienne Pinay

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Does not pass GNG. Only piece of independent, in-depth coverage is an interview in "Hotspots Magazine" from 2013. The other source with subject's name in headline is just a recap of a reality TV episode on which the subject was eliminated; it is not in-depth coverage of Vivienne Pinay. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:57, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:ENTERTAINER. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:18, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, you interpret this person’s one-episode guest spot on Skin Wars and their run on RuPaul’s Drag Race to make them a notable entertainer, despite a lack of notability-establishing coverage? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked you several times now to leave me alone. I will not be engaging with you further so please do not ask me questions or post on my talk page again. Thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is simply not a reasonable ask when it comes to AfD, and I will not be avoiding your votes in this discussion. You are free to not reply, obviously. Biography subjects need WP:SIGCOV, and this subject does not meet that standard. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In real life the subject is a friend of several friends of mine and, since my partner is Filipino-American, I have found that both the LGBTQ and pinoy worlds are very small and interconnected. So I'm not going to !vote. I feel obligated to point out that the subject was eliminated after the 4th episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, but they also have tens of thousands of followers on social media. Discuss amongst yourselves. Bearian (talk) 18:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to RuPaul's Drag Race season 5. Not prominent enough for stand alone article. Reads like a promo. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 04:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Wilson (missionary)

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This article looks at first glance very well referenced, but looking more closely, I fear there are some major problems.

Hargrove 1809" doesn't seem to mention Charles Wilson?[15]
Sibree 1923 is a publication by the "London Missionary Society", so not an independent source
Davies 1808 and Davies 1810 are "'publications" from the "Records of the London Missionary Society" and not even really published, it is a microfilmed manuscript
Wharton & Im Thurn 1925 is this source which has one primary mention of Charles Wilson as a co-signatory of a letter
"London Missionary Society 1818a" is obviously a publication from the LMS again

So nothing in the article is actually based on reliable, independent sources about Charles Wilson, which indicates the lack of notability for this missionary (and the text gives no indication why he would be considered notable either). Fram (talk) 10:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lovett's 1899 History of the London Missionary Society 1795–1895 has (on p.176) Charles Wilson captured on the "Duff" before going out again on the "Royal Admiral" in 1801. So that's how the Hargrove source, an account of the "Duff" voyage, gets joined in. For a fact-poor obituary of Wilson (which outright tells us that it isn't going to tell us anything about the period between 1801 and this person retiring in 1842 and dying in 1857) that however also joins the dots for the "Duff", see the July 1858 Missionary Chronicle, p. 453. There's another obituary in the 1858-09-24 The Friend (v.8 no.9 p.65) which tells is that this person's work "extended over a period of near sixty years", and says not one thing about those 56 years, also stopping the facts at 1801.
That said, perhaps we could have left the article for more than 30 minutes of writing to see how the other 26 sources were going to pan out. Uncle G (talk) 11:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Judging from other articles like this one, there was little inclination to keep on working on the article. Many of these other sources were from the LMS as well anyway, and other ones don't really have much on Charles Wilson either (e.g. [chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/a6a00647-248f-40a2-beed-87e632163f33/content this one]). The two sources you mention aren't independent either, of course. Fram (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Fram, I'll be brief because I have other fish to fry: don't forget to take your pills! Duponnerie (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Fram, I think you are a great idiot. Don't be angry—tomorrow, April 1st, is approaching! You won’t be able to erase the life of this missionary, who labored for 56 years in the Pacific, with just a banner. It does not seem that he was an alien or that his life was empty. Instead of imposing your imperialism, you should work to make the article more credible by adding sources. I found this on the internet to put an end to this masquerade because I noticed that you were in command of an entire squadron of idiots. Don't be mad—April 1st is coming soon! Here is the source:https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/SAMREP18571001.2.6

To conclude, don't forget to take your pills and share them with your friends. Have a great day— the more, the merrier! Duponnerie (talk) 00:38, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Has a very full obituary in a national newspaper. I can't see any good reason to delete an article like this. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sourcing in the article is mostly primary but here's another obit plus some bare mentions in Samoan history books. [16] [17] [18]. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems well sourced as a historical article. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 04:20, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andres David Drobny

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questionable notability, as it relies predominantly on sources too closely associated with the subject and lacks significant independent coverage in reputable publications. Additionally, the article presents a promotional tone Mapsama (talk) 07:02, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - just about meets WP:NAUTHOR, with two reviews of the subject's book in academic journals, which I have added to the article. I agree the tone is rather promotional. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 09:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it’s two reviews about the author’s book without any awards, I believe the entry should be about the book and not the author. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 14:22, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak delete. He has at least two other books, Inside the house of money: top hedge fund traders on profiting in the global markets and The Invisible Hands: Top Hedge Fund Traders on Bubbles, Crashes, and Real Money, but my searches could not find any reliably published reviews. Two reviews of one book isn't enough for WP:AUTHOR for me, we don't have the citation record needed for WP:PROF#C1, and I don't see the significant coverage in independent sources needed for WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per David Eppstein. I also note that three of the sources in the article are primarily about Larry Summers and his citation of the subject's work, rather than directly about the subject. That's a WP:BLP1E situation. Bearian (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:48, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Osagie Osarenkhoe

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Fails WP:GNG or WP: ANYBIO. All the sources are either not reliable or not independent. The awards too could not help either because they are just run of the mills Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:NPRODUCER, this is still up and coming though, so I expect some coverage in the future. But for now, no. The awards are vanity and not do count towards notability here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The recognition section has notable awards that has been or been nominated for so they meet WP:ANYBIO. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:26, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reading Beans The awards in the section do not automatically qualify the subject for a Wikipedia article without reliable and independent sources. Of course, I have gone through the sources and most of them are not from reliable news media. The ones from reliable news media are puff pieces like this this, and this or press releases of her parting ways with Wizkid.Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have an opinion on the sourcing. Statements sourced to unreliable sources can always be removed but sadly, that’s not what deletion is for and as the article shows, the recognition section is sourced. Now, back to my argument: the policy I am citing is WP:ANYBIO#1; The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times—emphasises are mine. The recognition section has 2 nominations from The Future Awards Africa and an additional 2 nominations from The Beatz Awards. Now, unless you’re arguing that those awards are not notable, then this subject is clearly notable. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to ping: Ibjaja055. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:59, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: she has been nominated four times more than 3 notable awards,The Future Awards Africa and The Beatz Awards which demonstrates sufficient notability per Wikipedia's guidelines. These nominations are supported by reliable sources, each confirming the subject's recognition in her field. Even though she hasn't won any awards, her repeated nominations show a consistent level of notability in her field. Afro 📢Talk! 14:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: She’s notable as an artist manager. And has 4 nominations in two different notable awards four times definitely cuts the criteria in ANYBIOS1. Afro 📢Talk! 14:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per my comments above. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:56, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Soft Delete: I believe that this person has not achieved notability yet, but as @Vanderwaalforces said, she is up and coming. I believe that once she gains more coverage in reliable and independent sources, an article for her could be re-evaluated. She hasn't reached the notability criteria yet. If we're just factoring in the awards itself that she has received, they are not inherently notable.

WormEater13 (talk) 13:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no policy cited here. The awards section is cited reliable sources and if you are in doubt of the notability of the awards to satisfy NANYBIO#1, then nominate them for deletion. Until, this !vote is not policy based. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 14:49, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lori Perkins

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Only independent sources I can find are ones that mention her in passing. Created over a declined AfC in 2015 by a single-purpose account editing about Perkins and her publishing company. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 04:30, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Obviously non-notable subject, promotional BLP. silviaASH (inquire within) 07:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but stubify. Underneath the promotional tone is a lot of important work in publishing award-winning Lesbian writers. The Lambda Literary Awards are the Pulitzers of queer writing, and her imprints have for over a dozen years published many notable women's literature, including Cecilia Tan. I don't know the subject, but I met Tan once or twice at SF Cons. Can I take a crack at this? Thanks for your patience. Bearian (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2025 (UTC) P.S. I've started to work on it. Bearian (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2025 (UTC) P.P.S. I cut out what can't be sourced or is out of date, and added a source. I considered a merger but upon further reflection took it back. Discuss. Bearian (talk) 03:29, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as between the three book reviews, awards, and coverage about her agency and e-book house there seems to be enough for at least WP:NAUTHOR if not WP:BASIC. The article is a bit of a mess and would benefit from a re-write. Nnev66 (talk) 18:38, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Josh Levy

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This article does not demonstrate that the subject meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. Wikipedia evaluates notability primarily through two pathways: the general notability guideline (GNG), which requires significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources with strong editorial oversight, and subject-specific notability guidelines (SNG), which are tailored to specific fields like academics, athletes, or entertainers.

In this case, the article appears to concern a religious figure, not an academic, so WP:NACADEMIC is not applicable. The more relevant SNG is WP:NPERSON, which still requires significant coverage in reliable, independent sources that are not directly affiliated with the subject.

After reviewing the sources:

CheckCompany provides a minimal corporate profile with no substantial coverage. (Too sparse)
ReformJudaism.org.uk is a primary source from an organization the subject leads. (Not independent)
Jewish News focuses on organizational developments and only briefly mentions Levy. (Wrong subject)
Leo Baeck College profile is uncredited and potentially self-authored. (Unreliable, likely self-published)
JewishGen is about a synagogue building, not Levy himself. (Too sparse, Wrong subject)

These sources fail to provide the significant, in-depth, and independent coverage required for notability under either GNG or NPERSON. Without substantial third-party coverage—particularly from newspapers, religious publications, or similar sources—there is no verifiable basis for inclusion. As it stands, the article should be deleted for lack of notability.

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~~Delete-~~ Reason above Alexnewmon2623 (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:AFDLIST - as the nominator recommending deletion, you should not also !vote. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC) (She's right, your nomination is your vote, you can't cast a duplicate one. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Keep As the chief executive of the Movement for Reform Judaism and co-leader of the new Progressive Judaism (UK) movement [19], [20], I think he is probably notable per WP:RELPEOPLE. He is not the Chief Rabbi, who is inherently notable, but as co-leader (with Charley Baginsky) of a group that covers 30% [21] of Jewish people affiliated with synagogues in the UK, this is still a subtantial position. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article could be better but he is notable as the joint leader of a significant religious movement in the UK.

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Bryan Bergeron

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I can’t find any sources that aren’t connected to the subject. ProtobowlAddict ^talk! 22:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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? What does the nominator think about the subject's citation record? It appears to contain hundreds of sources that are not connected to the subject. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:26, 30 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Keep per WP:PROF. I see three articles with over 500 citations, a fourth with 478, and more articles with over 100 citations. That appears to pass the PROF Test. Plus, while Harvard cheats at hockey, the medical school is sort of prestigious. Bearian (talk) 02:05, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article has been here since 2005. The article is just one line and one weak source. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I see at least 2000 reliable sources not connected to the subject. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Weak delete. It is a bit of a red flag to me how low his ratio of book reviews to books is. I found only two reviews, from many books, and one of the two is in a journal I think may be dubious: [22] [23]. That's not enough for WP:AUTHOR for me and I don't think his citation record is strong enough for WP:PROF. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Avram

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Does not have enough coverage to meet WP:NSPORT requirements. Darkm777 (talk) 00:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not as clear notability as the others, but she was a world championship medalist and Olympedia includes a photo that looks recent from the Sportarad newspaper, which indicates that they likely covered her. What we have to do is find it. Its also quite likely there'd be further offline coverage, given her accomplishments took place before the internet. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:08, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NSPORT does not state that Olympic Medal Winners are automatically qualified. Rowing does not have its own policy, but some sports such as Track & Field do and state that "Significant coverage is likely to exist for athletes who compete in the field of athletics if they meet any of the criteria below." One of the criteria is to have Top 8 placement in a major competition, but even then we need to have significant news coverage. Could you point me out to any specific policy that states Olympic medal winners automatically qualify? Darkm777 (talk) 02:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where in my above comment did I say that Olympic Medal Winners are automatically qualified? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No sports guideline grants automatic notability to anyone, but for what it's worth, Olympic medal winners are mentioned at WP:NOLY. Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOLY states "Significant coverage is likely to exist." It doesn't say it is an automatic qualification. We still need significant coverage per the policies. Darkm777 (talk) 01:43, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Reiner Frieske

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Non-notable German handball player. I was unable to find any in-depth sources about him. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: silver medallist from the 1970 World Men's Handball Championship, according to de:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP: Notable for the following reasons: (see German Wikipedia for a slightly more detailed entry)

East German Handball Champion: He was a goalkeeper for the team that won the "DDR-Meister: (East German Championship) in 1964.
International Handball Player: Frieske played for the East German national handball team.
World Championship Appearances: He represented East Germany in the World Handball Championships in 1964, 1967, and 1970, with the team finishing 2nd place in 1970.
Olympian: He competed as part of the East German handball team at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich. He played in 6 out of 6 games during the tournament. The team played in the bronze medal match, but was edged out by Romania (19-16), finishing in 4th place.

References that I found clicking Google News above were in German. — ERcheck (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per ERcheck and sources which I found [24] and [25]. Note: Some sources wrote Rainer instead of Reiner. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 10:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Not encyclopedic and not really relevant to the English wiki. The German version of article looks pretty short too with only 3 sources. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – PDF file looks decent, but does the second newspaper even mention him? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes in the bottom left corner with the title "Geachtet als Sportsmann und Kamerad". 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 14:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's just an interview without independent analysis, so I'd lean towards Delete. Multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found more sources similar to the other pdf, centre left, bottom centre. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per sources presented in this AfD and WP:AGF. Svartner (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hara (band)

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Non-notable band. Article created in 2004. Not to be confused with The Hara, which seems to be notable. Natg 19 (talk) 17:10, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete article has been here since 2004 and has not improved. Is not notable. Ramos1990 (talk)

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Lance Kramer

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Unsourced biography from 2006. Could not find SIGCOV about him. Natg 19 (talk) 23:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Some coverage for someone with a similar name [26], I don't know if it's this person though. Oaktree b (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think it is the same person. IMDB (not RS, I know) has several Lance Kramers: [27][28] Natg 19 (talk) 01:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Doesn't follow WP:GNG and the lack of sources seems like grounds for deletion. Cottagechez (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I'm yet undecided. He directed a number of episodes, so there should be sources. Most of the article was written by IP editors, but I reached out to Jdb00. Bearian (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He meets WP:CREATIVE#3, as having played a major role (directing) in the creation of a notable work The Simpsons, which has been the subject of multiple, independent reviews. I have found one article about him, from 2000, and several reviews of two short animated films of his shown in animation festivals in the early 1990s. Otherwise, I have found sources that confirm his role as director in the episodes of the Simpsons. I think that is enough to satisfy WP:CREATIVE#3, as they provide verification of his role. (This person is not the same as the Lance Kramer who with his brother Brandon Kramer has made The First Step and Holding Liat - that Lance Kramer will probably be notable too.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that he means CREATIVE#3 as Kramer is not the "creator" of the Simpsons - that would be Matt Groening. And CREATIVE#3 mentions (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series). However, the 3 articles mentioned may meet WP:BASIC. Can you put links to the articles here? Natg 19 (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CREATIVE includes WP:DIRECTOR and other creative professions - it does not mean just the original creator of a series. The wording you quote is about what form coverage of "the significant or well-known work or collective body of work" can take: the work "must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work, for example ...". Lance Kramer directed 25 episodes of The Simpsons - it seems to me that he "played a major role in co-creating" it. The sources are in the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I still disagree with you, as directing 25 episodes is very minor, out of the 783 (and growing) number of The Simpsons episodes. That is less than 5%. Will review the sources later on. Natg 19 (talk) 18:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Many people work on these TV shows, but most do not have their own stand alone article. Does not look notable and sourcing is not that great. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Mapley

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Insufficient notability, as it relies on self-referential sources and lacks significant independent coverage from credible publications that establish him as a prominent figure within the financial industry. Furthermore, the content primarily focuses on specific legal cases without providing comprehensive context or wider recognition that meets Wikipedia's notability. Mapsama (talk) 13:28, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Meets notability guidelines - independent coverage in reliable sources, especially in relation to international financial investigations and whistleblower activity.

Coverage and involvement include:

Mapley’s role in the collapse of the Basis Yield Alpha Fund, which invested in the Goldman Sachs Timberwolf CDO, is covered in HuffPost, The New York Times DealBook, ABC Australia, and International Business Times.

Mapley was a technical advisor to the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, contributing to its 650-page report on the 2008 subprime crisis, highlighting Goldman Sachs’ misrepresentation of structured financial products.

Further third-party coverage includes Expatica Switzerland, St Vincent Times, Further Blows Traded in EPF Fraud Case – PA Europe, and OffshoreAlert, which document his broader work in international financial investigations and asset recovery.

The article avoids promotional content and focuses on well-documented, encyclopedic facts. Legal cases are not undue weight, but part of broader public interest and regulatory investigation coverage.

This is not a case of routine mentions — Mapley is a central figure in multiple reputable sources with long-term notability — Quadtripplea (talk) 09:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Article reads like a promotional handout or a linkedin write up for someone looking for work. This reads as an extended CV. None of the sourcing used is directly about this individual, rather, about other things and simply mentions this person. I don't find sourcing either that we could use. Oaktree b (talk) 19:06, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I think this is the same person [29], but it doesn't confirm... If he's been suspended for doing illegal things, that could be notable, but without further proof, I can't confirm. I don't see criminal notability either. Oaktree b (talk) 19:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan McInerney

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does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies. The article lacks significant independent coverage from reliable sources to establish notability beyond routine coverage of his professional role. Most sources primarily focus on Visa Inc., rather than McInerney as a notable individual. Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: Most sources are about getting the job at VISA. There's a small bit of information otherwise [30], but he gets quite a bit of coverage. He was with JP Morgan Chase [31], for quite some time before joining VISA. He was speaking with Forbes before even joining VISA [32], showing he was well-known even then. He's the CEO of one of the largest financial /credit card businesses in the world, he's not working for some small, local firm. Oaktree b (talk) 13:47, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vasu Raja

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Lacks notable, verifiable sources proving his subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for a person. Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 09:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Vasu Raja was the high-profile architect of the world's largest airline's commercial strategy including a unique take on distribution for two years before being forced out and continues to be a notable industry expert. He has sufficient coverage to meet the general notability guideline and curious whether a search was done before nomination. Avgeekamfot (talk) 16:58, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: Seems to be written by a Senior Contributor (which I think is a staff position), Forbes [33]. Not an extensive amount of sourcing, but there is some. Oaktree b (talk) 13:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I think notability was just temporary based on reading few sources from google search. WP:NTEMP Asteramellus (talk) 21:45, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The independent and secondary coverage (such as this piece in the WSJ) focuses on his firing from American Airlines, making this a case of WP:BLP1E. The rest of the coverage of him separate from his turbulent tenure at AA is non-independent, primary and/or trivial. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable at all. Just a person who got a job. Reads lika a resume. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Omar Albertto

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Fails GNG. I can't find any coverage except for 1988 article in LA Times. Article is completely promotional and was created by banned user. —Kaliforniyka^Hi! 20:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. While most of the sources (both in the article and in a quick google search) are pretty low quality, I've found a couple that I think are usable for notability purposes. Mr Feel Good Academy of Fashion Arts and Sciences Ageist, and LA Style. He was also quoted in a 1994 issue of Cosmopolitan[34] but I am not sure if that article provided substantial coverage. His heyday as an agent appears to have been in pre- and early internet days so more sources may be available offline. Article should be trimmed and rewritten to avoid promotion and unsourced detail but I think there is some substance behind the glitz. Eluchil404 (talk) 23:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I'm not knowledgeable about fashion, but a quick online search shows a few different profiles that indicate notability as Eluchil404 listed. Article does need a significant rewrite to meet quality standards though.

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Delete Not really encylopedic. Article here since 2016. With such poor sourcing after this time, it means not even editors seem to care about the subject. Ramos1990 (talk) 00:31, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - I cannot find any source that can be suitable for this article, just promotional content and profiles 201.225.3.154 (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Patrick Durusau

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While certainly accomplished, I cannot find enough in-depth references to show that he meets WP:GNG, and does not meet WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 07:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect to High places in cyberspace. I have found three reviews of his book High places in cyberspace: in the Journal of Near Eastern Studies [35], in Semeia : an Experimental Journal for Biblical Studies [36] (p 166), and in the Journal of Feminist Studies in Religion [37]. So it looks as though the book is notable, per WP:NBOOK. We could either write an article about the book, or keep the article about him, adding references including the book reviews. There are certainly newspaper articles which verify that he worked as a defence lawyer, which don't contribute to notability but would probably be better sources than a law report. I haven't yet found secondary sources about his work with OASIS or ISO standards. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We could move the current article to the book title, to maintain history, and make the article about the book, which per your sourcing looks notable. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment @Onel5969:: I would have no objection to moving the current title to the book title, but I personally do not have either the time or interest to write an article about the book. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or move as suggested. Bearian (talk) 17:48, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NAUTHOR / WP:NBOOK based on the book reviews found by RebeccaGreen, and no objection to a move to the book title following the AfD. A redirect would also be fine if someone does decide to create a separate article about the book prior to this AfD's closure. MCE89 (talk) 11:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable and poorly sourced article. May be better to rework this in draftsapce if it can be salvaged. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ohq

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Fails WP:BIO. No significant coverage in reliable sources; given sources are routine coverage and Ohq is mentioned in passing. No significant achievements in tier-one leagues or tournaments during his career. Yue🌙 22:10, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: There is no clear consensus that WP:NSPORT covers esports players and there is much routine coverage per nom. However, the ESPN story [38] and (likely) this Red Bull article [39] supports WP:SPORTCRIT which are reliable per WP:VG/RS. Esports Edition [40], unsure about its reliability. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that the coverage in those articles (at least the two that are not permanently dead) is significant. The most substantial is the ESPN article, but "a South Korean player is having difficulties adjusting to American life after joining an American team" is hardly the headliner article to establish standalone notability (i.e. apart from NRG Esports). Yue🌙 21:45, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Yue: Understandable, but ESPN also touches on his career. I've also fixed the Red Bull and Esports Edition links. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 03:46, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Yue here; delete. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:08, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete There is ample routine coverage that makes searching for significant coverage difficult, but I agree that the ESPN and Red bull sources don't establish any particular notability. No significant accomplishments on any of the teams he played for. Just another korean import into the north american league of legends league.

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Scott Kahoe

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Article on an individual that ~~appears to have~~ might have played a single season of professional lacrosse, though it isn't clear he actually ever played. Sourcing is all either non-independent profiles or statistical outlines, with one local news outlet on his transfer from Syracuse to Georgetown. Doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:ATHLETE. nf utvol (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. This in-depth story in The Philadelphia Inquirer along with this and this from Syracuse.com is probably sufficient for GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:07, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this particular case, I think those sources are fairly Run-of-the-Mill coverage. Local newspapers also cover high school and college athletes, in every city and town, there are several high schools and colleges and papers that cover them; inevitably, these athletes will receive coverage.

The Inquirer and the Syracuse.com are both major news outlets, but they also serve as local news, which does make this a little less cut and dry than it otherwise would be. All of these sources, though, are simply profiles of a local high school (in the case of the Inquirer), or collegiate (in the case of the Syracuse.com sources) athlete, without much of a context outside of local interest. A quick perusal of both shows that these sorts of profiles happen daily, sometimes multiple times daily. Using these three sources to establish notability would mean that there are quite literally thousands of similar cases where non-notable high school or collegiate athletes would now meet the notability threshold for an article, just based on coverage in the Inquirer and Syracuse.com.

Finally, to quote the WP:ATHLETE guideline: The guidelines on this page are intended to reflect the fact that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level. In this case, the subject appears to have only played a single season of professional lacrosse, with almost no coverage of this beyond a stats page. The coverage on his participation in a collegiate championship is limited to a single page commenting on his social media posts. nf utvol (talk) 13:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ROTM is an essay; whether there's "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" is all that matters here. And in this case, he does meet that, with in-depth stories in The Inquirer and Syracuse.com. The significant coverage on the subject does not need to be regarding something that you subjectively deem of greater than "local interest" in order to count as significant coverage. You say that this would allow for "quite literally thousands of similar cases where non-notable high school or collegiate athletes would now meet the notability threshold for an article" – however, the difference here is that the subject also competed professionally at, what I believe is, the highest-level of lacrosse (i.e. he's not just some random local college player like you're making him out to be). Lastly, the ATHLETE "guidelines" are just a garbled mess that few still rely on. Note that NSPORT includes nothing talking about lacrosse, thus even the greatest lacrosse player of all time would still fail it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:36, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After doing a little more digging it isn't clear that Kahoe ever actually played a regular season game of professional lacrosse. According to the stats page linked in the article, he was drafted by the Boston Blazers in 2009 but never played a game. Then, according to Lacrosse All Stars (which I'm not sure is a RS anyway), he was drafted by the Florida Launch in 2013, but I can't find anything at all that indicates he ever played a single game with them beyond playing on their practice squad in 2017. This, in my view, means that whatever time he may have spent in MLL/PLL/NLL does not serve to add to his notability. nf utvol (talk) 15:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if he never played in the MLL/PLL/NLL, that makes the case weaker, though he still arguably meets GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:36, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Can find news articles referencing above player which seems to be reliable secondary source^[1] Krishnpriya123 (talk) 06:05, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reference you mentioned is from The Hoya, a student-run school newspaper, and wouldn't really be appropriate for establishing notability in this case. nf utvol (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's still an actual print newspaper. Looking at their website, they seem to be somewhat independent of the university. The Hoya source doesn't count for much but it still helps just a tad little bit (when combined with the other sources). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:52, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No it doesn't. Per [[41]], The Hoya is funded in part by a student activities fee that all undergraduates attending the university pay, connecting it directly to the university. Let'srun (talk) 21:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not appear to have the requisite WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG and doesn't appear to meet any other notability guideline. The Syracuse.com article is primarily interview prose as it is. Let'srun (talk) 21:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I found this also although some of it is the same as the first Syarcuse.com link Beanie posted. Here's this additional coverage too though it's not as good. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:18, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not much coverage in more notable publications. Mainly local sources. Article made in 2015 by a single editor who may have been intimate with the subject. Single purpose account. Ramos1990 (talk)
- Locality of sources are irrelevant; one does not need to have coverage in "more notable publications" to have an article. That said, The Philadelphia Inquirer, which covered him, is one of the largest papers in the U.S. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:48, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While that is true, it covered him purely as a local athlete, which is no different than any other local newspaper covering a hometown player. Let'srun (talk) 21:44, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I always try and find sources for a Keep. Why delete what someone else has worked hard to create unless you really have to? That is my take at least. In this case, the source simply is not notable and is mostly just re-mentioned in his own school list. Not a reliable, or independent, or secondary source! It stands to be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 03:07, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There's multiple sources that are both reliable, independent, and secondary... BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:48, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean "the source isn't notable"? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://thehoya.com/uncategorized/after-four-years-in-gray-kahoe-returns-to-msf-wearing-orange/

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Clive Elliott (barrister)

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The person doesn't pass WP Anybio. All the sources are not of really depth coverage, and his overall achievements are not making him to be eligible in terms of GNG. Insillaciv (talk) 11:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as it comfortably passes wikipedia:ANYBIO. Being president of the Bar Association is equivalent to winning a major award. Having an entry in the Who is who legal is equivalent to being in a national dictionary. Schwede 66 16:45, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - because it meets general notability guidelines. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 08:00, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - presidency of a large bar association is a high honor. I'd probably exclude the President of the Schenectady County Bar Association and of the Delaware Bar Association, but a national or large state association is almost always a full-time job in itself, and considered a very high honor in the legal profession. Bearian (talk) 01:17, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't see how GNG is met, none of the sources in the article are independent SIGCOV. I also don't see how ANYBIO is met even if you stretch the definition of 'award' to include serving as a president of an organisation. The criteria for ANYBIO is 'The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times' perhaps serving as the president of the New Zealand Bar Association is a significant role, but it certainly is not a well-known one. I for one couldn't tell you who the president was prior to this. I don't see any news articles talking about the selection of any new president for the bar association, which suggests it isn't exactly a well-known nor significant role. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Shoe0nHead

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Fails GNG. She has received some brief mentions due to her roles in promoting conspiracy theories about Balenciaga[42] and tweeting about online influencer dramas, but has not been relevant enough to get multiple sources providing her WP:SIGCOV. Maybe this page could be merged to Balenciaga#Child advertising controversy.

[43][44][45] Very brief mentions of the subject, little to no original commentary about Lapine herself.
[46] Only one paragraph worth of original commentary about Lapine.
[47] No original commentary about Lapine, the article only describes her opinions about someone else
[48] Unreliable, apparent content-mill source. It presents no meaningful original commentary on Lapine, beyond a single sentence introduction of who she is.
[49] An WP:INTERVIEW where Lapine talks about herself and Trump supporters, this source is not WP:INDEPENDENT from the subject when it comes to the statements made about her. Badbluebus (talk) 02:58, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Independent Singapore source (which is unrelated to The Independent), besides paraphrasing her opinions, does also paraphrases the opinion of another youtuber about her. Technically, that is some form of third party commentary, but it is not reliable (WP:NOTRS directly talks about sources that heavily rely on unreliable opinions). Badbluebus (talk) 18:41, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Perhaps the article can be moved to the draft namespace and get cleaned up? I'm not incredibly familiar with that process but given that the article is about a public figure who some may consider significant, it may make more sense than completely deleting it. In my opinion, it makes the most sense to convert the article into a stub and remove the unreliable sources. Azeelea (talk) 05:17, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should remove Vaush, Kyle Kulinski, and others’ pages too, then. 205.178.91.134 (talk) 05:47, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep She seems to have notability even if the sourcing of the article is terrible. Agree with Azeelea that the unreliable sources should be removed. //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 19:24, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide any sources, or any WP:N policy or guideline, to establish that this subject is notable? In my BEFORE, the sources not in the article also lacked WP:SIGCOV [50][51]. A WP:SIRS source eval would be helpful here. Badbluebus (talk) 02:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Concur with Lollipoplollipoplollipop, the sourcing ain't good but the solution should be to fix the article, preferably without moving to draft. Flimbone08 ; talk 21:36, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Reviewing available sources (or lack thereof) I believe this should be deleted. The best independent source about the subject seems to be this brief interview on the hill, and it's really just stating that she interviewed some people which doesn't really make her notable. A few articles on the Libertarian Republic by June are not independent sources. Numerous unreliable sources about the "shoeonhead" leaks, but numerous postings about influencer leaks aren't notable on their own/tend to be churnalistic rather than journalistic. I agree with the nominator: there are not sources establishing notability and there are few reliable, non-opinion sources about her and this article should be deleted.

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Delete per lack of independent sources demonstrating significant coverage. Most of the sources used in the article are primary sources or passing mentions. Madeleine (talk) 02:24, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Not against Merge (ATD) supported by Nom. The sources on the article and a before does not satisfy the notability criteria as a columnist, analyst, or even notable pundit. Being an "influencer" with a fanbase does not equate to notability unless it has reached the threshold of garnering significant coverage from independent and reliable sources. Primary sources, "her posts", likes, dislikes, or political ideology, does not advance notability, nor does brief passing mention. The solution to "She seems to have notability even if the sourcing of the article is terrible" and "sourcing ain't good", is called a HEY, needed to at least reach bare notability, that still may, or may not, save an article.

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The article have used a lot of unreliable sources and fails WP:GNG. Did WP:BEFORE but found only this trivia coverage from Kotaku [52]; thus zero WP:SIGCOV. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The unfortunate reality is that there just aren't many high quality sources covering esports. ESPN shuttered their coverage, the listings at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports are pretty small press, and many are region-specific or esport-specific to MOBAs. However, I think I cobbled together enough from the best sources that were available to pass the bar of WP:GNG. At the time that I wrote the article, they were a professionally signed player with major tournament wins, and considered one of the best players in the world in a notable esport by the community-accepted ranking system (If Red Bull is a RS and they devote extensive coverage to the Panda Global rankings, that should be enough). It's been a long time since I participated in AfD, so I'm out of practice and that's the best argument I can make at this time. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1st ESPN source was good, the 2nd is usable but those are not enough. Other sources might be also reliable, but it just have trivia coverages (not sigcov, and wouldn't notability). 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 07:22, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Is not notable and seems to not be encyclopedic. There are many tournaments and people win each time, but no page exists for most. Ramos1990 (talk)

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The player was part of two esport teams with articles already. Leaning delete; would cover them there, where relevant, and perhaps redirect if wanted. IgelRM (talk) 20:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as most of the sources are just not reliable or don't provide the WP:SIGCOV needed for WP:GNG. If preferred I'd also support a redirect to one of the teams they played on but I don't really think that's possible since he didn't have a more significant role in one over the other. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 20:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - sourcing too weak/minimal/noncomprehensive to support the WP:GNG of a WP:BLP. Sergecross73 msg me 19:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samsora

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Zero WP:SIGCOV. WP:BEFORE shows no reliable sources. Most of the sources that have been used here are mostly unreliable, while other reliable was just he won 2019 but that's it. I'm suspecting Nairo (gamer) has the same fate like this article. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 05:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The unfortunate reality is that there just aren't many high quality sources covering esports. ESPN shuttered their coverage, the listings at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources#Esports are pretty small press, and many are region-specific or esport-specific to MOBAs. However, I think I cobbled together enough from the best sources that were available to pass the bar of WP:GNG. At the time that I wrote the article, they were a professionally signed player with major tournament wins, and considered one of the best players in the world in a notable esport by the community-accepted ranking system (If Red Bull is a RS and they devote extensive coverage to the Panda Global rankings, that should be enough). It's been a long time since I participated in AfD, so I'm out of practice and that's the best argument I can make at this time. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they might be reliable like ESPN, but it has only trivia coverage; thus not a sigcov (wouldn't help its notability). 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 07:18, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: I can only find links to Events Hub, which feels promotional. The sourcing used is mostly confirmation lists of people involved in various tournaments. I don't see notability with the lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 14:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning delete, passing mention on CEO Dreamland article is all the apparent notability here. IgelRM (talk) 20:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clayton Cramer

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Proposing deletion per WP:BASIC and WP:NACADEMIC. Cramer played an important role in a scandal about the book Arming America and is an adjunct professor at College of Western Idaho.^[1] I have found no evidence that he meets an NACADEMIC criterion and insufficient coverage for BASIC.

Of the current references, ^[2]^[3]^[4] are by Cramer; ^[5]^[6] are not about Cramer; ^[7] is run-of-the-mill primary election results. I found additional references^[8]^[9]^[10] that mention Cramer in passing, apropos his role in the Arming America scandal. Even if this coverage was more extensive, it would fail Wikipedia:BLP1E.

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^ "Clayton Cramer | CWI Directory". College of Western Idaho. 2012-03-01. Retrieved 2025-03-18.
^ "What Clayton Cramer Saw and (Nearly) Everyone Else Missed". History News Network, George Mason University. January 6, 2003. Retrieved 26 February 2009.
^ Cramer, Clayton (March 2012). "Madness, Deinstitutionalization & Murder" (PDF). Engage. 13 (1). Federalist Society: 37–43. Archived from the original (PDF) on September 23, 2020. Retrieved May 22, 2012.
^ My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill. Scotts Valley, CA: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. 2012. ISBN 978-1477667538.
^ "Oct. 25: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty". Emory University. October 25, 2002. Retrieved 26 February 2009.
^ "The Bancroft and Bellesiles". History News Network, George Mason University. December 13, 2002. Retrieved February 26, 2009.
^ "2008 Primary Election Results Legislative Totals". Archived from the original on May 1, 2012. Retrieved May 17, 2009.
^ Lindgren, James; Bellesiles, Michael A. (2002). "Fall from Grace: Arming America and the Bellesiles Scandal". Yale Law Journal. 111 (8). The Yale Law Journal Company, Inc.: 2195. doi:10.2307/797645. JSTOR 797645. SSRN 692421.
^ Wilson, J (Jan 2002). "The Scandal of Arming America. (Stranger in a Strange Land)". Books & Culture. 8 (1): 4–6.
^ Hoffer, Peter Charles (2007). Past imperfect: facts, fictions, fraud, American history from Bancroft and Parkman to Ambrose, Bellesiles, Ellis and Goodwin. History. New York: PublicAffairs. ISBN 978-1-58648-445-3.

userdude 19:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There might be notability with the correction around the book, but these are sourced only to educational websites. Rest seems non-notable and I can't pull up coverage on this individual we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The only sources you can find are interviews with a few universities, that don't help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - he's not really an academic as an adjunct; he's notable as a gun advocate, which is shown by the coverage. This is not an endorsement of his views. Bearian (talk) 01:26, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you found independent significant coverage of Cramer as a gun advocate? There are several articles/op-eds by Cramer about his advocacy, but the most substantial independent coverage I've seen is the Books & Culture article, which has (charitably) two paragraphs of coverage. userdude 19:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The only scandal about Michael Bellesiles book, Arming America, was the content of the book itself and the fact that virtually all the purported history contained in the book was fraudulent. How this should in any way be cited as a reason for deleting a Wikipedia article on Clayton E. Cramer, who has published several historical books none of which have been accused of using falsified source material, is incomprehensible. Wally3438 (talk) 10:18, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi -- I mentioned Cramer's role in the Arming America scandal for context, not as an argument for deletion. Cheers :) userdude 19:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep per WP:AUTHOR. Reviews of his books are sparser than I might expect, but I found: Reviews of Concealed Weapon Laws of the Early Republic: [53], [54]/[55]. Review of Black Demographic Data: [56]/[57]. Review of Armed America: [58]. Four published reviews of three books is on the positive side of borderline for me. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, I also found a review of Lock, Stock, and Barrel [59] and another review of Armed America [60] (full text may not be publicly accessible). However, I don't consider books with 1–2 reviews "significant or well-known work[s]" per WP:AUTHOR3. userdude 19:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. I buy the NAUTHOR case. Comment also that redirection to Arming America would be a good alternative to deletion (a keep or no-consensus close looks more likely at this stage). Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you refer to as "the subject's clearly notable book"? None of Cramer's books have a Wikipedia page. userdude 04:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Being an adjunct is often a matter of hiring processes and not an indication of someone's status as an academic. I'm seeing sufficient coverage, and his role in exposing the poor research methods used in Arming America tips the scale for me. Intothat darkness 12:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please specify which sources you consider to provide independent significant coverage? userdude 04:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Passes in WP:NAUTHOR criteria judging the list of publications with which he is involved. Svartner (talk) 09:59, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per Russ Woodroofe. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Mahler

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I do think this article passes WP:N. Most of the sources that mention him are about Moon Studios, the studio he co-founded, or the development process of the Ori games, but they are not necessarily about him. OceanHok (talk) 13:28, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your comment, OceanHok. I appreciate the scrutiny regarding WP:N. I believe Thomas Mahler meets the General Notability Guideline (WP:GNG) due to significant coverage in reliable, independent sources that focus on him as an individual, not just Moon Studios or the Ori games. For example, the GamesIndustry.biz article "The making of Ori and the Blind Forest" (2015-03-23) provides detailed insight into Mahler’s personal background, his time at Blizzard, and his creative vision, beyond just the studio’s work. Similarly, the GamesRadar+ interview "Ori and the Will of the Wisps interview: Thomas Mahler on difficulty, storytelling, and more" (2020-03-10) centers on his design philosophy and leadership approach, highlighting his individual contributions. These sources, among others like the PC Gamer coverage of his role in No Rest for the Wicked’s development, offer substantial, non-trivial coverage of Mahler himself in secondary sources, independent of Moon Studios. While much of his recognition ties to the studio he co-founded, this is typical for creative directors, and the depth of personal focus in these articles supports his notability under WP:GNG. I’d welcome further discussion or suggestions to strengthen this! 84.242.10.82 (talk) 13:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@84.242.10.82 are you Thomas Mahler? Brenae wafato (talk) 22:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The only time I've seen this guy in the news was when he was accused of creating a toxic workplace. No mention of that in the article here though, instead we have an overly long promo/fluff piece that reads like it was AI generated. Seriously, look at some of these sentences: "Thomas Mahler’s career has significantly impacted modern game development, from the way games can be made to the way they are received." "Mahler’s work on Ori has had a lasting influence beyond just sales and awards. The games demonstrated that a small, remote team could produce an experience to rival big-budget studio productions, potentially influencing how future indie projects are perceived and funded." Even if other editors think he's notable, I'm not sure there's anything worth salvaging in the current article. I'd argue it needs WP:TNT either way. CurlyWi (talk) 18:35, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the IP editor above appears to be a WP:SPA who has previously attempted to sanitize any criticism[61][62] in the Moon Studios article. CurlyWi (talk) 19:00, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Merge a small part to the Moon Studios article? I'm not sure he's quite notable enough, but there's more than ample coverage about the workplace "issues". Oaktree b (talk) 14:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge A lot of this dovetails with Moon Studios. I don't really think he's notable outside that framework (otherwise it's notability decided solely on WP:NOTNEWS-ish controversy-related grounds.) I'm not seeing the significance for a GNG pass. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 00:25, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but also rewrite significantly. Per above, the main thing I know him from are the allegations of creating a toxic studio environment. The old 2017 article may be a better base to build from. That said, it does appear that there are sources and interviews here, so if trimmed down to DUEWEIGHT, there's something workable potentially. (Merge would be a backup second choice.) I'm not sure the original 2017 bold redirect was really merited. SnowFire (talk) 03:02, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I still think all of Mahler's successes and failures are too closely tied to Moon Studios and its games. I redirected the article in 2017 for mostly being an unnecessary content fork at that time. OceanHok (talk) 14:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Snowfire says above "it does appear that there are sources and interviews here," but has anyone actually looked at them? Of the 23 sources cited in the current article, 18 of them don't exist. And I don't just mean the links are broken, I mean they cite articles that literally never existed as far as I can tell. I'm 99% sure this IP editor [63] just asked chatGPT to generate a positive article about Mahler which is why the article is full of insane sentences like "The Ori games revitalized interest in 2D exploration-platformers and set a high bar for artistry in games." I wouldn't be surprised if the IP is Mahler himself[64] since he appears to be involved here too. To quote Revenge of the Sith, "How did this happen? We're smarter than this!" I still stand by my original comment that there is nothing worth merging/salvaging in the current article, and this deserves TNT even if other editors think a good article on Mahler could potentially exist down the line. CurlyWi (talk) 18:23, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @CurlyWi: Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't look too closely at the current version which was obviously puffery, but that is concerning. My !vote was based on me looking at the 2017 version. Based on what you said, it sounds like we should hard-revert to the 2017 version as a temporary measure. I had assumed that the sources existed but were being grossly over-spun and I guess I got "unlucky" in finding some of the actual sources, but see above as far as the 2017 version comment. SnowFire (talk) 20:22, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural note: Per CurlyWi's comment above, I hard-reverted. I think much of the fluffy added content wasn't usable anyway, but if it was based on hallucinated references, it's even less usable. Unfortunately the links in the old refs have broken somewhat (and use deprecated params) but it seems more likely to be accurate to reality. (My vote is unchanged above.) SnowFire (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Considering there is already a Moon Studios article, that appears to be an easy merge/redirect target for whoever wants to put in the effort. IgelRM (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strictly Ballroom (band) (3rd nomination)

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[j498-1] Mahotsav, Amrit (21 January 2025). "Shyam Sunder Vyas". Azadi Ka Amrit Mahotsav, Ministry of Culture, Government of India. Retrieved 4 April 2025.

[2] ttps://www.forbesindia.com/article/30-under-30-2024/aditi-saigal-aka-dot-winning-with-words-and-melody/91751/1

[3] ttps://thehoya.com/uncategorized/after-four-years-in-gray-kahoe-returns-to-msf-wearing-orange/

[4] "Clayton Cramer | CWI Directory". College of Western Idaho. 2012-03-01. Retrieved 2025-03-18.

[HNN2-5] "What Clayton Cramer Saw and (Nearly) Everyone Else Missed". History News Network, George Mason University. January 6, 2003. Retrieved 26 February 2009.

[6] Cramer, Clayton (March 2012). "Madness, Deinstitutionalization & Murder" (PDF). Engage. 13 (1). Federalist Society: 37–43. Archived from the original (PDF) on September 23, 2020. Retrieved May 22, 2012.

[7] My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill. Scotts Valley, CA: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. 2012. ISBN 978-1477667538.

[8] "Oct. 25: Michael Bellesiles Resigns from Emory Faculty". Emory University. October 25, 2002. Retrieved 26 February 2009.

[9] "The Bancroft and Bellesiles". History News Network, George Mason University. December 13, 2002. Retrieved February 26, 2009.

[10] "2008 Primary Election Results Legislative Totals". Archived from the original on May 1, 2012. Retrieved May 17, 2009.

[:2-11] Lindgren, James; Bellesiles, Michael A. (2002). "Fall from Grace: Arming America and the Bellesiles Scandal". Yale Law Journal. 111 (8). The Yale Law Journal Company, Inc.: 2195. doi:10.2307/797645. JSTOR 797645. SSRN 692421.

[12] Wilson, J (Jan 2002). "The Scandal of Arming America. (Stranger in a Strange Land)". Books & Culture. 8 (1): 4–6.

[13] Hoffer, Peter Charles (2007). Past imperfect: facts, fictions, fraud, American history from Bancroft and Parkman to Ambrose, Bellesiles, Ellis and Goodwin. History. New York: PublicAffairs. ISBN 978-1-58648-445-3.

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