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The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 02:09, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Forrester Research (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find significant coverage from independent reliable sources anywhere. The sourcing provided in the article also is only "contact us". Completely unreferenced from a secondary source standpoint. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Massachusetts. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Nothing found except the company's own publications and routine directory/PR sites like ZDNet and Crunchbase. Fails WP:NCORP. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Forrester is a well known technology research company that has a been around for decades. They publish research that is heavily referenced by the tech industry. I went to what links here and found about 220 articles either mentioning Forrester's research reports and/or quoting their analysts. By clicking on the articles, you can find some independent coverage: [8][9][10][11]. They are probably best known for the Forrester Wave, which is described here. Quote: For some, a successful inclusion in a Forrester Wave can lead to increased credibility, market recognition, and potential business opportunities. Here's a more recent example of how the media integrates Forrester's research into their reporting. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 00:40, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: A classic case where my first reaction is "But it's notable!" and then I see the current poor state of an article. It has been significantly degraded since this version, with a sequence of COI edits and their reversion. Reverting to that version would be better - however, it too is rather deficient in demonstrating notability. AllyD (talk) 19:24, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I don’t see any evidence of notability.
User:Curmchunt (talk) 16:21, 27 April 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:22, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Forrester is a well known name in technology, sales and Marketing research. I found 112 related articles on JSTOR. Electroshocks (talk) 01:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Plenty of coverage about the company's business activities over the years. Just a handful of articles: [12] [13] [14][15] [16] [17] Astaire (talk) 18:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:56, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elevated Entertainment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most of the references are instagram links and the others are mostly primary sources. It doesn't look like there's any SIGCOV but someone more familiar with Kuwaiti sources might have better luck. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BuySomeApples: Thank you for starting the discussion. I would like to respectfully argue that **Elevated Entertainment** meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline (GNG) based on the following points:
1. **Long Operational History** – The company was established in 1991 and has remained active for over three decades, managing more than 70 entertainment venues across Kuwait and the GCC. This sustained presence contributes to its regional significance.
2. **Significant Coverage** – The company has received coverage in reliable sources, including:   * *Al-Anba Newspaper* (one of Kuwait’s major Arabic-language newspapers), which highlighted their role in public recreation initiatives: [18](https://www.alanba.com.kw/1282036)   * Mentions in regional event platforms and tourism initiatives showcasing their “Big Bounce Arabia” project — a large-scale mobile inflatable attraction recognized across multiple Gulf cities.
3. **Clear Differentiation** – Elevated Entertainment is not a minor or local-only business. Their ventures, especially Big Bounce Arabia and Fun Quest, have gained notable regional recognition, serving thousands of visitors per event.
4. **Improvements Made** – The article has been rewritten to meet encyclopedic standards: it now features a neutral tone, structured format, and includes references to external coverage. The promotional language has been removed, and unsourced claims trimmed.
5. **Potential for Expansion** – There is growing coverage of their projects in Arabic-language media and tourism sectors, which can be further integrated into the article.
Therefore, I believe the article is worthy of retention and further development rather than deletion. I welcome any suggestions for improving the article further. LoransofA (talk) 08:55, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not use AI to generate responses in deletion discussions. They are unhelpful. Your response only has one point towards notability (significant coverage), but also fails to address how that significant coverage meets WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:38, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@LoransofA: It doesn't look like the article you linked mentions Elevated Entertainment anywhere. You would need to find sources that talk about the company specifically so that they meet these policies: WP:Significant coverage. BuySomeApples (talk) 22:07, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response.
The company mentioned in the article is Big Bounce Arabia, which is owned by Elevated.
I wasn’t able to find a detailed article specifically about Elevated, but there are a few articles about its subsidiaries, such as Big Bounce, as I mentioned earlier, and Fun Quest.
Would it be possible for me to contact the company and request a legal document confirming its ownership of both subsidiaries?
This ownership is also stated on their official website.
Best regards. LoransofA (talk) 13:25, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I Rewriting the article and diversifying the sources. LoransofA (talk) 16:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You basically summarized why this does not meet notability unfortunately. If there are no references that are detailed about Elevated, and we are simply using a legal document (primary source and likely WP:OR), then there are no sources that meet WP:ORGCRIT which is the requirement to show notability for companies. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:47, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not meet notability criteria for its category (companies/organizations). Ira Leviton (talk) 20:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. per WP:SNOW, no reason to drag this out. Eddie891 Talk Work 08:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of foreign exchange bureaus in Uganda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This page fails WP:NLIST WP:DIRECTORY WP:INDISCRIMINATE and potentially WP:MIRROR - there is no clear reason why this merits its own article. All information is taken from one reference, which is just an archived link to a document which contains nearly all the same info. To top it all of, there is a link to someone's scam crypto investment on Telegram at the top of the article SJD Willoughby (talk) 16:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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no wp:sigcov, fails wp:gng ProtobowlAddict talk! 16:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:53, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Was deleted a few years ago, but I don't think it was eligible for C4. The only sources which talk about the company are regurgitated press releases, not true news articles. Many, if not most, of the current sources do not even mention the studio. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 21:57, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Zarah Garde-Wilson. Eddie891 Talk Work 08:37, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The sources are all about Zarah Garde-Wilson or cases she was involved in, but there's nothing that helps the law firm meet WP:NCORP. BuySomeApples (talk) 07:14, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 05:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not very notable company and only known due to acquisition news Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 05:07, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. asilvering (talk) 07:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luminosity Entertainment (American film company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable film company. Sources provided only mention the subject in passing. Fails WP:NCOMPANY. Author appears to have a COI, since they also created Luminosity Entertainment (American film studio), which was an exact duplicate of this article. Possible PE as well. CycloneYoris talk! 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 00:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:ORG. Cabayi (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IAmaze (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of credible sources. Doesnt match with WP:sicgov WP:gng WP:org AndesExplorer (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom, unsourced since 2008. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:11, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: It is surprising that this instance was created, 8 years after the company's acquisition and 2 years after the previous AFD deletion; there doesn't appear to have been revived coverage to justify this. Looking from this distance, the article contains no assertion of notability, the lack of coverage remains - announcement of acquisition falls under WP:CORPTRIV. No reason to overturn the previous AFD consensus; fails WP:NCORP. AllyD (talk) 13:07, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

International Suppliers Network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:ORG. Lack of independent, reliable sourcing. No evidence of significant impact. AndesExplorer (talk) 16:49, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pearly Gates (record label) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reason: AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 12:31, 18 April 2025 (UTC) There are no citations on this page. The only other source I could find was an old MySpace page. The band "Gregory and the Hawk" exists, but doesn't seem to be affiliated with "Pearly Gates." And the Royal Family? Come on. This article should be deleted, unless we're going to write an article for every random MySpace page there is. In terms of specific Wikipedia rules; fails notability standards, sourcing standards, and parts of this article are plainly false.[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:45, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article on Cora Systems lacks sufficient independent, reliable secondary sources to establish notability as per Wikipedia's guidelines Loewstisch (talk) 09:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. There is no indication that this <200-person software company meets WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. The sources in the article (and those that I can find outside it) are either ROTM "press release republished in local or specialist news outlets" (of a type to be expected for any company of its type), are trivial passing mentions (like random "name drops" in an Oireachtas debate or Limerick County Council report), or (in some cases) do not mention the subject org at all. The clear WP:PAID / WP:COI / WP:PROMO overtones, in the article's creation and its tone/intent, are also very very difficult to overlook. Guliolopez (talk) 10:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No sources discussing the subject in depth (WP:SIGCOV). COI and Promotional in tone as said by Guliolopez. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:48, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I apologize for mistakes I made in writing the article and hope to improve. In the spirit of the project's WP:PRESERVE policy, I've made edits to the article to address concerns and am very open to further improvements. I believe there are enough reliable sources and significant coverage but will stick to WP:THREE for this comment. I'm also adding The Irish Times articles to the refs.
1) Irish Independent: The article is entirely about the company (not a trivial passing mention) and written by a journalist at Irish Independent (secondary source).
2) RTE: The article is entirely about the company and is written by a journalist at RTE, a public service broadcaster.
3) Silicon Republic: The article is entirely about the company and written by a journalist at Silicon Republic. Arcticwindowpane (talk) 20:11, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional comment:
  • Re: Guliolopez's objection: "Where does either linked source say anything about the org being "among a small number of technology firms based outside Ireland’s major urban centers"? Or anything like it? The siliconrepublic.com source makes no mention of the subject org."
The reason I added that Silicon Republic source is because it lists the locations where most tech companies in Ireland are located. Cora Systems is not in one of those locations. Ergo, it is one of a small number of tech firms outside major urban centers.
  • Re: the quote from Neale Richmond, here it is in full:
"Over the past number of years, Ireland has become a global digital technology hub – and pioneering Irish innovators like Cora Systems have played a pivotal and transformative role in the sector. Global leaders are increasingly turning to Irish-owned enterprises for solutions, as their innovative offerings, talent, and cutting-edge services are trusted around the world.
As a result, we have seen the development of innovative, talented, and disruptive Irish-owned digital technology companies and Cora Systems exemplifies this. Today’s opening is a great boost not just for Dublin but also for the North-West region where their HQ is based, connecting both to the global stage. The expansion paves the way for Cora Systems to grow its highly innovative business and to significantly scale its activities. I wish Philip and team all the best for what is sure to be a very exciting future.”
I believe this sentence is supported by that quote: "At the opening of its Dublin office, then-Minister of State for Business, Employment and Retail Neale Richmond recognized the company's "transformative role" in the Irish digital technology sector." 20:28, 18 April 2025 (UTC)Arcticwindowpane (talk)
Hi. In terms of the sources you mention, they are interviews and republished press releases. Which are not considered independent for the purposes of WP:SIRS. Specifically:
  • Independent.ie (1 Apr 2018). That piece is written by Seán Gallagher. A businessperson. Not a "journalist at Irish Independent". As part of a series in which he "[met] owners of small and medium sized businesses" (in which the company interviewee describes a 57-person business with €5.5m turnover - similar to innumerable SMEs worldwide). As it is an interview, it doesn't materially contribute to notability.
  • RTE.ie (24 May 2022). That is a republished press release. Similar to any business report published every day. The original company press release (22 May 2022) is here. The RTE piece is not independent reporting.
  • Silicon Republic (19 Jun 2023). That is a republished press release. The original company press release (also dated to 19 June 2023) is here. It is not independent reporting.

In terms of the FV/SYNTH/OR concerns, those should be dealt with in the article or article talk. Not here. (SYNTH/OR/FV issues are WP:SURMOUNTABLE issues and not relevant to AfD discussions.) Guliolopez (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Headcount and "orphan article" status don't matter for notability under Wikipedia's guidelines - what counts is significant, independent coverage from reliable sources, which we definitely have here. The Irish Independent, RTE, and Silicon Republic aren't press releases - they're actual articles with bylines. And The Irish Times - Ireland's newspaper of record - covered the company too. The company is clearly notable based on this national media attention from various independent sources who've taken the time to report on what they're doing. XwycP3 (talk) 18:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. Hi. RE: "'orphan article' status don't matter for notability under Wikipedia's guidelines". I may have missed it, but I didn't see any arguments based on "orphan" status. RE: "Headcount [..] don't matter for notability". As the nominator doesn't mention headcount, I can but assume this is a response to a comment of mine. To confirm, I mention the org's headcount (<200 people) as a point of comparison. Orgs under 250 people are classed as SMEs. Of which there are over 200,000 in Ireland. Representing, per the CSO, "99.8% of all enterprises". This SME has been the subject of the same coverage (funding rounds/jobs announcements/software launch events/other press releases covered in business pages) as we would expect for any other similarly sized company. I mentioned headcount for this relative comparison. Not as an absolute or standalone rationale. RE: "The Irish Times [..] covered the company too". All the Irish Times references in the article fail a WP:SIRS test. The "300 jobs" piece (May 2022) is based on this "300 jobs" press release (May 2022). The "'revolutionary' software" piece (Sep 2018), including the quotes (repeated in similar reporting) about the software being "'game-changing' adaptable software" and how it "revolutionises transparency", come from the org's own PR. Seemingly its promotional launch event of Sep 2018. This coverage is therefore based on interviews/press-releases/statements from those associated with the company. And not, as expected by WP:SIRS, "completely independent of the article subject". Guliolopez (talk) 19:56, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I agree with Guliolopez, none of the references meet NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 14:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Obscure game company who released numerous notable games and went defunct long ago, whose only notable event in the 21st century is selling their intellectual property to Hamster Corporation. Little to no significant reliable sources about the company individually exist on and off the Internet, with the article sustaining on a single Twitter source for as long as one can remember. A Google search of UPL associates the name with an Indian company of the same name. Easily fails WP:NCORP. MimirIsSmart (talk) 12:37, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Perhaps redirect to Hamster Corporation? Otherwise Delete. IgelRM (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Just noting that only one editor here who is arguing for Keep has less than 200 edits, others are more experienced, particularly Bearian. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I declined a G5 as an IP had some copyediting, but that might be a sock of the original banned editor, and I don't know enough about Indian companies to determine if the organisation is notable or not. So here's a discussion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I found the subject notable. Sources cited in the article like The Indian Express, Times of India, and several others are bylined, independent, and provide sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. SATavr (talk) 14:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I was ready to go for delete, but there are actual facts and good sources. It certainly needs more work, but it appears to be notable on close examination. Bearian (talk) 09:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and keep improving. If sockpuppetry and editing by COI IP users continues, I would suggest protecting the article to allow editing only by autoconfirmed users in order to prevent further disruption. The article requires substantial improvement, particularly in the sections beyond the lead, and needs better referencing. However the subject appears to meet notability criteria with sufficient significant and critical coverage available through Google search results.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete None of the Keep !voters have identified any sources that meets WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability, that is in-depth "independent content" about the orgnization. "Independent Content" means content which isn't entirely reliant on press releases, announcements, interviews or other content regurtitated from company sources. For example, this Times of India article referred to above is not Independent (as in "independent content") and is not in-depth. It is 7 sentences long and 2 of the sentences are directly attributed to the company, with the rest relying entirely on information provided by the company with no independent commentary or analysis, article fails both CORPDEPTH and ORGIND. Or this in New Indian Express is a single sentence - that is not in-depth information, fails CORPDEPTH. HighKing++ 20:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP meets at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content". And i can see some references in Google search that pass the criteria. Syam Steel Case Study, Economic Times, The Times of India, Business Today and The Economic Times. B-Factor (talk) 06:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's take a look at the aforementioned sources in more detail and point out why they fail NCORP - happy to listen to a counter-argument if you disagree
  • This "case study" is written by a Amazon AWS because the topic company uses their services. That isn't "independent content", that's advertising, fails ORGIND
  • This from Economic Times is a press release from the company and fails ORGIND. For example, you can find the exact same article reguritated in different publications such as here, here, here and here.
  • This repeats what the company announced (and acknowledges this in the article text) with no independent content (e.g. commentary/analysis/etc). You can find the same announcement regurgitated here. Fails ORGIND.
  • This is a mere mention with no in-depth information (not even a complete sentence) about the company, fails CORPDEPTH.
  • Finally, this article (which is 7 sentences) is also entirely based on company PR and contains no "independent content". Of the seven sentences, four are directly attributed to a company official. You can also find the exact same information in different publications such as this and this (which acknowledges it is PR). Fails ORGIND.
Regurgitated PR does not meet NCORP criteria. I'm happy to take another look if you can point out which paragraphs in which sources you believe contains independent content. HighKing++ 11:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Research shows that it is 70 Years old company employing more than 2000 people. In old days there were no online media. But i am sure there must be some print news of the subject. And there are online references that support the notability criteria of this company. I suggest that this page should not be deletedAlmandavi (talk) 05:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There appears to be an influx of editors here with less than 200 edits each, using similar reasoning but without providing any analysis of *why* particular sources meet NCORP, and without identifying sections within those source which contain in-depth independent content. AfD doesn't simply count !votes, and especially at NCORP-related AfD's where we require adequate sourcing. If the topic company is notable, we should at least be able to find sourcing and identify and explain why it meets the criteria. HighKing++ 11:33, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Goldsztajn (talk) 12:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Created by a single purpose editor and unreferenced for 17 years. Fails WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 10:56, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was a declined prod so I think ineligible for speedy. LibStar (talk) 02:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no refs in the article and I couldnt find anything other than a few trivial mentions in some tech publications, which leads me to believe there arent any WP:RS out there. This is not the place for free advertising! Dfadden (talk) 02:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Goldsztajn (talk) 12:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article should be deleted due to its promotional tone, lack of reliable citations, questionable notability. Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 07:58, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete t seems like many sources are gone and may have just been paid placements (when I click just the main page of the newspaper appears). I was trying to find arguments and sources to help the page, but mostly sponsorship coverage with citations and promo tags can be found. However, the firm is 20 years old, and some sources may still exist. --Old-AgedKid (talk) 11:47, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article should be deleted due to concerns regarding its overall notability, lack of extensive coverage in independent sources, and the potential for promotional language Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 07:56, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:39, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Entirely promotional and fails WP:NORG. Amigao (talk) 01:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I’ve trimmed the article significantly to take out anything that sounded promotional or was just routine info. What’s left is backed by solid, independent sources like TechCrunch, Forbes, and Deloitte, which offer real coverage that meets notability guidelines WP:NCORP / WP:ORGCRIT. I think the article should stay, and I’m totally open to improving it further with help from other editors. Hariseldon42 (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've looked at the articles you've mentioned. Whenever you see an article which includes a sentence along the lines of "Today, COMPANYX announced..." or similar, then it is PR, not independent content. HighKing++ 20:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete Even with the trimmed-down version with less promotional material, I do not believe meditopia meets WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Current sources are not covering the app/company in detail; most are simply routine coverage of business investments in business-focused papers/journals. As a company itself I don't think Deloitte is independent here. A further search for sources returns much of the same. Unless someone can identify reliable secondary sources with in-depth coverage of meditopia that is not reliant on executive interviews then this article should be deleted. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete None of the available sourcing meets NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 20:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete and redirect‎ to Sheldon Silver. asilvering (talk) 02:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see independent significant coverage outside of a scandal (and even that is largely tabloid sources like New York Post). According to the talk page, this article is the product of a UPE sock farm to highlight negative aspects of law firms they have issues with Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:37, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject is not WP:Notable SpelunkerOfMine (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have searched for sources using Google News, and the only article I've found is a Manchester Evening News article which gives it a trivial mention.[1] They do come up when you google their name. But other than this Wikipedia article, most of these results are self-published or contain basic facts (e.g. contact directories LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.). This continues until the third page of Google, where the results start getting irrelevant.
The only sources that are used to support claims about AWI are AWI's website and a report by various religious and humanitarian groups which I think fails verification. There are also 3 sources which are not used to substantiate claims about AWI, Daily Kos and globalsecurity.org, both of which are noted for unreliability (WP:DAILYKOS WP:GLOBALSECURITY), and a U.S. Marine Corps report. SpelunkerOfMine (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ Cox, Charlotte (2015-09-02). "Monster cargo plane descends on Manchester Airport". Retrieved 2025-04-20. The flight organised by Ability with Innovation contractors drew at big crowd to Altrincham's Runway Visitor Park.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
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The result was delete‎. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:57, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally AI generated with a bunch of fake sources. When the nonexistent sources, the unsupported information, and a whole lot of empty promotional fluff had been taken out, what remains is a stub article with a few sources mentioning products manufactured by the company, but nothing to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. bonadea contributions talk 18:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Procyon117 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Notability comes down to sourcing, not products. The guideline can be found at WP:ORGCRIT. The term "future" does not apply to most of its products anyway. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:52, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The CNET and Men's Journal reviews appear to fall under the WP:ORGCRIT section on product reviews for tech -- they read like PR-driven reviews. (The MJ review has a purchase link at the bottom that would generate referral income for the publication.) The LevelUp piece is trivial coverage and the Business Insider article is purely press release and company interview-driven. Other sources in article are WP:TRADES or blog posts. I don't see an WP:NCORP pass here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 23:38, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This article about an Indian coworking provider fails WP:NCORP. The coverage consists of routine WP:ORGTRIV coverage related to capital raises, expansion of the business, etc. ([22], [23], [24]), much of it unbylined and thus questionable per WP:NEWSORGINDIA ([25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30]. There's also some coverage of the death of its founder ([31], [32]) that constitutes WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. I didn't find anything qualifying in my BEFORE search and there's no obvious AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, profit/financial reporting, share price, new brand launch news etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 10:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:10, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. The current page looks like a company advertisement copied onto Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. The current page looks like a company advertisement copied onto Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:53, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- entirely promotional article ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 06:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. The current page looks like a company advertisement copied onto Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like share price fluctuation news are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:26, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, profit/financial reporting, funding, acquisitions news etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, share price, profit/financial reporting, merger, demerger capacity expansion, overseas acquisitions etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the way the article is written feels like it’s mainly trying to promote or advertise something. Wikipedia:PROMO. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Goldsztajn (talk) 09:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like raising funds, performing successful surgeries etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:11, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ "Undiagnosed diabetes surging in Chennai, a study by Kauvery Hospital shows". BusinessLine. 16 April 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  2. ^ "'Diabetes on Wheels', an initiative of Kauvery Hospital highlights gaps in early detection and calls for improved awareness". The Hindu. 16 April 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  3. ^ "Kauvery Hospital releases data on the Diabetes Prevalence in Chennai through a cross sectional study". Expressnews. 16 April 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  4. ^ "12-Year-Old Girl Undergoes Life-Saving Heart Surgery at Kauvery Hospital, Vadapalani". The Wire. 2 April 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  5. ^ Standard, Business (25 March 2025). "Kauvery Hospital Honored with Prestigious CFBP Jamnalal Bajaj Award for Fair Business Practices". Business News, Finance News, India News, Stock Markets BSE/NSE News, SENSEX, NIFTY, Personal Finance News. Retrieved 17 April 2025. {{cite web}}: |first= has generic name (help)
  6. ^ "Kauvery Hospital introduces Mako Robotic Joint Replacement system". ETHealthworld.com. 17 January 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  7. ^ "Kauvery Hospital Successfully Conducts a grand ECG Masterclass workshop". The Wire. 8 April 2025. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
  8. ^ The Hindu Bureau (31 January 2025). "Kauvery Hospital receives Joint Commission International accreditation". The Hindu. Retrieved 17 April 2025.
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like establishing new manufacturing units, acquiring others' production units, expanding overseas business by appointing an expat etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:34, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:30, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like share price performances, investments, rudimentary litigation news, etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like quarter-wise revenue targets, share prices, share buybacks, domestic & overseas acquisitions etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I found https://www.fayobserver.com/story/business/2018/10/18/eclerx-to-expand-delivery-service-add-150-jobs-in-fayetteville/9519735007/ (syndicated by the AP: https://apnews.com/74f5de0c89084f29844015e48d5c6459) but the information contained isn't enough to meet notability. The previous nomination brought up things like https://books.google.ca/books?id=rk9UDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA266&dq=eclerx&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLlOu7npfrAhV8g3IEHZlbAm8Q6AEwAnoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q=eclerx&f=false but that concentrates on a specific (widespread) technology; it's essentially a trivial mention. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. plicit 14:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Through a web search, it doesn't appear that this is a notable company. I've found some web articles [36][37][38], but with a quick read, I'm concerned about significant coverage (i.e., commentary, analysis, etc.) of the company's services within those sources, per WP:CORPDEPTH. Best, Bridget (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The article reads like an advertisement or product description rather than an article, which is not acceptable in Wikipedia's standards. In addition, there are just three references; one by the company's own page, an article in a technologic publication and a product review. These are not enough to consider the company to be notable. Just to be sure, I searched for more inependent sources on the company to possibly add later on, and found almost nothing beyond brief mentions. NeoGaze (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I don't think there's SIGCOV of the company, but I found several sources about the product: [39], [40], [41], [42]. I'm not entirely sure how to resolve that. Anerdw (talk) 17:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The first link Anerdw is an entire book evaluating the subject pedagogically and without any apparent COI. The other links Anerdw provides aren't that crazy notable, but also do very much offer significant coverage. The second link nom (Bridget) provides is a long PCMag review, and it does provide analysis (e.g. was disheartened not to have access to snapping guides for centering and aligning); I doubt nom's interpretation of CorpDepth anyways: Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product. Even without analysis, description would be enough under the "or". To me, CorpDepth is just something that excludes e.g. "articles" whose only independent content is routine stuff like "Company got $1 billion in founding round B, 14% of which was from famed Corpo C. Additionally, 43% of this contribution was from Corpo D, while 18% was from famed VC...." etc. Any coverage that provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization should qualify for the SigCov criteria. In my experience, the precedent at AfD is that tech publications and product reviews are not disqualified form notability considerations, and such is also the opinion of the oft-cited essay WP:NSOFTWARE. Aaron Liu (talk) 04:17, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The vast majority in unsourced or primary sourced, so I intended to improve the article but very much struggled to find good secondary sources. The school does not seem to fit notability guidelines. -- NotCharizard 🗨 02:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the ping. Have just completed total revision of the article once through. Will add comments below the line. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:42, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - Meets WP:GNG and WP:ORG now that sources have been improved on the article. Editz2341231 (talk) 13:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Follow-up comment. I initially came to this article on 19 April expecting to !vote delete, because the article looked like this. As the editors above all noted, the article was very poorly sourced, with no secondary sources, and essentially read like a promotional directory listing, likely created/edited by someone with a close connection to the school. (If this was you, please have a read of WP:NOTPROMO as Wikipedia has policies against advertising.) The nominator said they struggled to find secondary sources, and RebeccaGreen, an editor with impressive research chops in this area, said she didn't find much online, either. All in all, it was not pointing in a promising direction.
However, RebeccaGreen also suggested that part of the problem may have been the fact that Stage School Australia was previously known as Australian Youth Theatre. Thus, this suggested two logical avenues for research: 1) Could reliable secondary sources be found if we conducted searches beyond "just Google"? 2) Could reliable secondary sources be found if we used search terms other than "Stage School Australia"? Stage School Australia is like the umbrella organisation name for Australian Youth Theatre, Youth Australian Broadway Chorus, and Australian Boys Dance Academy. To make things even more complicated, over its 40-year history, it has also been known as Victorian Youth Theatre and Children's Performing Company of Australia.
Searching ProQuest using all the school's past and present names yielded significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources over the course of the school's 40+ year history. The article now looks like this (see Stage School Australia) and was completely rewritten from top to bottom. In terms of the best pieces of coverage, I would point to the 2016 feature article on YABC "Youth Theatre Far From Child's Play" in the Herald Sun (while it includes quotes from the artistic director of YABC, it also includes facts that were vetted by the journalist and likely the editorial staff); the 2011 article "Rude Awakenings", which was written by Robin Usher for The Age, a major national newspaper, in which he examines the YABC's somewhat eyebrow-raising production of the coming-of-age rock musical Spring Awakening which they staged with real teenagers playing the parts of teens exploring sex and dealing with abortion and suicide (interviewing some of the children as well as the school and including facts vetted by the journalist and editors); a 2010 review of a YABC performance at the Adelaide Fringe festival in The Advertiser; and this 2025 review in The Scoop of a Stage School Australia production of Seussical (easily found via Google once you start adding more than one search term or parameter).
I have removed all the directory-esque course listing information from the article, and also removed all mentions of alumni which aren't backed by sources (primary or secondary). I have also expanded the article with facts from the many additional sources which were found.
To conclude, this is why I decided to !vote keep per WP:GNG, WP:ORG, and WP:HEY. Pinging RebeccaGreen. Cheers. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Consensus from detailed source analysis indicates independent, SIGCOV reliable sourcing not available. Goldsztajn (talk) 11:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The company does not meet the notability criteria per WP:CORP due to a lack of significant coverage as required by WP:SIGCOV. The sources mentioned are trivial mentions and promotional in nature, failing to provide the depth needed to establish notability. Veeranshi Jha (talk) 10:52, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Agree with the nominator. I have found no in-depth coverage of coinswitch in reliable sources. Largely seems to be another generic crypto exchange this time focused on the market in India.
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  • Keep Saying 'no in-depth coverage in reliable sources' is incorrect, what is true is that this is crowded by routine coverage, press releases and sources under WP:ILLCON. Money ≠ notability, though this is India's largest crypto exchange. Along with Coinswitch mainly being known for its products which have received sustained coverage meeting WP:NPRODUCT, there is much coverage to support NCORP criteria. Forbes article, The Economic Times, Mint, are some examples. Hmr (talk) 00:06, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • weak keep: The three articles in the comment above are ok, Forbes is a staff report, second one is about the company, Mint is an interview with the CEO but has some other info. These look okl Oaktree b (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep the [Reuters] article is pretty good arms-length reporting on results annouced by the company (e.g., talking about competitors, saying they can't confirm some claims). Agree with Oaktree b that Forbes is good and independent, and Economic Times has its heart in the right place. Mint is borderline puff piece, not just a press release but not very independent either, but the first three are sufficient to meet WP:NORG Oblivy (talk) 12:28, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The Forbes India article listed above relies pretty heavily on comments from company founders and is part of a list of interviews/commentaries for "tycoons of tomorrow". It is not offering much in the way of significant secondary coverage. Interviews with CEOs are considered primary under WP:NORG so the article from Mint cannot be considered for notability. The article from Reuters appears to be independent + secondary, but it largely reads as routine coverage of the company's valuation after receiving venture capital funding. With the practice of opaque paid-for coverage in India, including Times group properties, I am also concerned whether the article from The Economic Times can be considered reliable as portions read like puffery. It also includes many comments from the company's leaders, though not as many as the Forbes piece. I stand by my earlier assessment that there is a lack of notable coverage in reliable sources and believe this article should be deleted unless additional significant coverage from well-established reliable sources can be found.Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 21:02, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I agree with the above comment, none of the references provide sufficient significant in-depth "independent content" to establish notability as per NCORP criteria. The Forbes Indian article relies entirely on information provided by the company and via interview, fails ORGIND. The Economic Times article is another example of a company profile which relies on the same methodology and has no "independent content", also fails ORGIND. The Mint article is a straight-up interview, fails ORGIND. HighKing++ 14:17, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete: I think the Reuters article is good but the Forbes and Economic Times articles comments about the company are basically only in the form of quotes from the founders. Depending on the future of crypto in India this very well could be a notable business soon but don't think we have enough independent coverage of the business now. Moritoriko (talk) 01:14, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 04:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No reliable coverage per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies) either on the page or across the web (wp before). Not notable company. Mozzcircuit (talk) 16:09, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Only news articles are about it being purchased by General Mills. It isn't a significant enough part of GM to warrant a redirect to the article like the other non-notable brands that make up the General Mills portfolio. Moritoriko (talk) 23:45, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to Carl Cox. Eddie891 Talk Work 08:11, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Although I'm on the fence, I don't think this organization meets GNG. Of the four sources listed, two are unreliable (i.e., Facebook and Discogs) and one lacks SIGCOV (i.e., DJ Mag). I found an interview in Vice [43] with a paragraph about the company, as well as post at EDM House Network [44], though that could be a press release. Further, this article has been tagged for notability concerns since 2017 with few efforts at improvement. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 06:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Several redirects pointing towards this article are currently nominated at RfD at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 9#Intec Digital redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 05:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was ‎Keep. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)(non-admin closure)[reply]

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Lacks notable, verifiable sources proving his subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for a person Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 08:59, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have you looked at the sources on JP wiki or done a BEFORE in Japanese? IgelRM (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Cinesite. and merge any unique encyclopedic content. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies. The article lacks significant independent coverage from reliable sources that establish notability Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 08:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:47, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, failing Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Additionally, if the content relies on self-published sources, appears promotional, or does not demonstrate a lasting impact Welcome to Pandora (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • This from tech.eu dated 19 Dec 2019 relies entirely on regurgitating this announcement from the same date issued from the company. It contains no independent content and fails ORGIND.
  • [This fails for the exact same reasons but also because they are a connected party, having advised on the deal. Fails ORGIND.
  • [This is a Press Release written by the company, obviously press releases are not independent content, fails ORGIND.
  • This is another regurgitation of a company press release. Fails ORGIND.
  • This techcrunch article fails ORGIND for the exact same reasons as the first two.
I'm baffled as to how these references can possibly meet NCORP. Can you clarify which paragraphs in each source contains in-depth "independent content" or how they otherwise meet NCORP criteria for establishing notability? HighKing++ 13:32, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Hi Stockhausenfan, the previous AfD was over 7 years ago and since then, it has been established that reviews of the software product do not confer notability on the company. If the article was about the software, then the software reviews could be used to establish notability on the software. HighKing++ 11:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for the same reasons as the previous AfD (which is not addressed by the new nomination). Stockhausenfan (talk)
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  • Delete. I don't think I can find a single source that isn't a WP:ORGTRIV announcement. (for the record, TechCrunch and VentureBeat are terrible sources for notability for the most part, though there are occasional instances where they're useful for that purpose I guess) Alpha3031 (tc) 13:37, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 06:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for companies or studios. Kopnakolicti (talk) 07:18, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. While numerically there's slightly greater weight for delete, the single keep contribution is far more detailed than the nomination and the interventions waving at ADMASQ and per nominator. As such, there's effectively two detailed but opposite views regarding notability, neither of which fully refutes the other. Goldsztajn (talk) 09:39, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for corporations, as explained in WP:NCORP and WP:ORGCRIT. Charlie (talk) 18:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: The sourcing in this article is like a flea market: cluttered, uneven, but with real value among the items. Roughly two-thirds of the 33 references are clearly low-quality, promotional, or dead links and should be trimmed per WP:RS and WP:UNDUE. However, 6 to 7 are solid pieces from reliable national sources including The Times of India, The Economic Times, DNA India, Forbes India, and India Today, offering independent coverage that satisfies WP:GNG. This is a clear keep and a strong cleanup candidate under WP:PRESERVE. HerBauhaus (talk) 04:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: I've performed a WP:HEY cleanup: removed all promotional and unverified claims, trimmed weak sources, and ensured the article is now built on a solid core of high-quality, independent sources, with minor supporting references for individual events. HerBauhaus (talk) 11:05, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete change !vote since redirect target no longer exists Merge to Rishabh Sanjay Shah as per WP:ATD and redirect. First, fair play to HerBauhaus for the extensive cleanup, the article is much better now. But unfortunately, I cannot locate any reference that provides in-depth "Independent Content" *about* the *organization*. Most of the references have a couple of sentences describing the organisation at most, all saying much the same thing, that the organization is involved in organising conferences or has been involved in marches or other movements. A lot of the articles are dedicated to a participant in a conference (might go to notability of the participant?) or one of the conferences (might go to notability of a particular event?) or to the founder (might go to notability of the founder?). We even have stuff about the find-a-bed program (might go to notability of the find-a-bed movement?). But if the topic is the organization, then NCORP criteria says we require references that establish the notability of the organization. I suggest the material here, which overlaps extensively with the existing material in the target, can easily be merged. HighKing++ 13:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: I'm a bit unsure about the merge suggestion. The article appears to meet WP:GNG, with broad, independent coverage from sources like The Economic Times, Forbes India, and India Today. Even when the founder or events are mentioned, isn’t the organization itself the recurring subject? Wouldn’t that satisfy notability under GNG, regardless of WP:NCORP? And since the content focuses on the organization's activities rather than a personal biography, wouldn’t merging to the founder risk WP:COATRACK concerns? HerBauhaus (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think your question contains a flawed premise which, when pointed out, will reveal the answer. There isn't a "regardless of WP:NCORP" because GNG and NCORP are essentially the same thing. NCORP shows how the general notability guidelines (GNG) *must* be applied for companies/organisations. Or put another way - an article about a company can't meet GNG and not meet NCORP and if you think the article does, it must be only because you're applying the guidelines incorrectly for this topic area and you must be ignoring the NCORP guidelines (which are instructions on *how* the general GNG guidelines are to apply). HighKing++ 13:34, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. plicit 12:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete due to its reliance on a single source, which does not sufficiently establish the organization's notability as required by Wikipedia's guidelines. The article lacks independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the foundation's impact and activities OatPancake (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× 21:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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lacks sufficient independent, reliable sources to establish notability as required by Wikipedia’s general notability guideline. Most references are either press releases, primary sources, or non-independent tech blogs, which may not adequately demonstrate the company’s significant coverage in reputable secondary sources. OatPancake (talk) 13:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep - there are a good amount of sources including this and this. I believe that the article can be improved - there are a number of repeated citations and excessive primary sources referenced in the article, but I think that the subject passes the notability test.
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  • Neither meets NCORP criteria. This is entirely based on information provided by the company and their CEO about a funding round, fails ORGIND. And this is the same, more regurgitated company info about an earlier funding round, also fails ORGIND. HighKing++ 17:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm leaning towards deletion, as the sources are more like press releases, and no non-trivial coverage has been found. Sources like this are good but not enough https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israeli-data-analytics-co-coralogix-raises-142m-1001413941 Old-AgedKid (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 13:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NORG, there is no WP:SIGCOV. A review for one of their products does not grant notability. Coeusin (talk) 11:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - per nom and above.
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The result was merge‎ to John Messara. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, is based on 1 primary source and 1 deadlink. Also issues with WP:PROMO and contains wikilinks to irrelevant subjects. Dfadden (talk) 22:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge to John Messara. Apparently Arrowfield is a big operation and very well known in the industry, but everything is founded by John Messara and under the umbrella of "Arrowfield Group Limited" (ARF1), of which Messara is the chairman. There are a LOT of online articles mentioning Arrowfield Stud or -Group, mostly brief mentions as the breeder or owner of this or that horse, but Messara is the main star—searches for any of these names return many quotes by Messara from press inquiries and interviews. Messara seems well-known and well-reputed within the thoroughbred breeding and racing industries in Australia.
    Sample search results:
Arrowfield is also the sponsor of a race which has its own wiki-article: Arrowfield Stud Plate. "Arrowfield Stud" appears in 60 wiki articles, at least 18 of which wikilink directly to Arrowfield Stud.
I couldn't find any comprehensive coverage on the stud itself except for articles interviewing Messara (interviews rank as primary sources) but that doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I didn't find any. The John Messara article isn't too long that it couldn't host "Arrowfield" content and redirect all the company names to it. All of the related articles (including the stallion articles) have been edited by likely-COI editors and probably need cleaning up, not deleting.
  ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article needs cleaned up and expanded with pertinent references. Just because they don't exist right now doesn't mean the article needs to be deleted. If the trend is to start deleting articles just because they are stubs then the direction of notice should be for the project to consider improving it. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Maybe so, but no new refs have been added to this article since 2013 and there have been many edits since, including editors who have questioned its notability and referencing issues (see here and [45] edit summaries) Do we keep it for another 12 years in the hope someone eventually fixes it? It also appears that the most recent active contributors may have a WP:COI and currently the only working reference is the farm's own website. My concerns are not just about notability but also about WP:PROMO.
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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. An alternative to deletion could be merging with Manipal Hospitals. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. The keep !votes are too weak to overcome the basic objections that there is insufficient coverage that is both in-depth and independent. asilvering (talk) 03:51, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NORG; WP:BEFORE fails with Google/DDG search; one ref, the first ISP Planet ref, seems reliable, but is old, stands alone, and is from a specialist/industry publication that no longer exists. Second ref only discusses the ISP in passing with greater emphasis on its founder. Apparently survived a PROD in 2006. /over.throws/they+ 20:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@RebeccaGreen Any luck? Toadspike [Talk] 09:46, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep I have added sources and info from digitised newspapers (and a bit more info from the existing sources). A Google Books search shows that there is also some coverage in computer magazines, which I have not (yet) included - I will try to include this one [46] at least (though IT is really outside my areas of expertise or interest). I think there is just enough significant coverage for it to meet WP:NCORP (including the ISP Planet article - its age and the fact that the publication no longer exists are irrelevant.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:43, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep it took some time to reseaech and yes, there is no significant coverage but it is notable. Some sources I found while searching for the topic - an old article with a mention - [47], this news article-[48], a public record- [49], and this magazine coverage too- [50]. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 19:06, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    None of these pass muster. The first one is a name check in an article about other companies: more than 100 Internet service provider and enterprise customers, including Cisco Systems csco , Concentric Network cncx , Epoch Networks, Oracle orcl , PeopleSoft. The public record doesn't show notability, only that the company exists (presumably all companies get such a record). The other two are that 1) they raised money and 2) they were acquired. These latter are "routine business announcements." This is covered in WP:NCORP under the section WP:CORPTRIV. There it lists "raised capital", and "sales, mergers, acquisition" as examples of standard notices that do not support NCORP. Lamona (talk) 22:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You are right about that. Again the subject is notable but not having significant coverage (reliable and secondary, yes, but not much). The question is, does it hold some time based significance, yes.[51][52] about founder with a mention to the subject - Scott Purcell is a serial entrepreneur experienced in securities, banking, technology, internet infrastructure, publishing, social networking and music industry. He is best known for founding Epoch Networks, one of the first internet providers in the United States [53] one line mention- and Epoch Networks (the nation's largest privately held ISP at the time).[54][55][56]. Might not meet much criterias and it does have time based significance but not significant coverage which totally depends upon pov of the user WP:POPULARITY.HilssaMansen19 (talk) 05:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. On balance, the arguments for deletion are considerably stronger than those for retention. However, I do not see a consensus here. And with no added views after my last relist, I see little point in dragging this on for another week. Feel free to renominate in two months. Owen× 14:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Refences in this article are made up of press releases, primary sources and marketing copies distributed to other websites. Check well and you find nothing solid and credible per WP:NCORP. CPDJay (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concerns about sourcing and notability. While some of the current sources are not ideal, I believe the subject is not far away from Wikipedia’s notability standards and can be improved rather than deleted. That said considering that the brand is acknowledged with several awards from SiGMA and SBC, covered on their official websites, and testifying that it is notable for its industry.
The article cites different sources, even though some of the current references may not be ideal, but I am working on researching and adding better sources to strengthen the article. Victoria Gregor (talk) 14:43, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Many of the arguments on the Keep side were based primarily on the weakness of the nomination, which by itself, is not a valid reason to retain an article. Among those who examined sourcing vis-à-vis NCORP, I see a rough consensus that the subject does not meet our notability criteria. This view was also shared by the lone "Neutral" !vote here. The outcome is the same whether or not I discard the (canvassed?) SPA vote by the account created for this AfD. Kudos to HighKing for the thorough source assessment work. Owen× 13:28, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Typical advertising spam and not notable company that deserves to be deleted Xrimonciam (talk) 08:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I'm the page creator. I trust the AfD process to determine notability and obviously recurse myself from voting (if I was to vote, I would agree with Weak Keep), however I strongly object to the claim of "Typical advertising spam." I have no affiliation with the company, have a history of anti-vandalism work, and I have never been paid to edit Wikipedia.
While I'm here, I want to offer another source on top of what @WeirdNAnnoyed provided: https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/06/price-of-zero-day-exploits-rises-as-companies-harden-products-against-hackers/. Please note WP:TECHCRUNCH, however the article appears to be written by a staff writer without a COI, so thus should be sufficient in contributing to notability.
Thanks, Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 00:53, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Sources don't prove notability and my searching didn't find anything else useful. Moritoriko (talk) 00:16, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The vice source is okay. I don't think the TechCrunch article counts as significant coverage. If they had sold a zero day exploit to someone that had an effect (that has been publicly reported) I think that would show how it is a notable company. Moritoriko (talk) 00:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - Deletion argument is misguided. The article is true to its sources and is only "spam" in the sense that the company intentionally made bold claims to get press coverage and then did. On the other hand, making a splash one time in 2018 does not meet my bar for keep. Regardless of outcome, thank you @Scaledish for writing this article. Brandon (talk) 08:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I mentioned GNews, not because it is a measure of notability. If there are only two pages in GNews, it is a strong indicator the press don't feel the topic is worthy of being covered. If there were enough sources meeting ORGCRIT (there are not), I would have done HEY myself.--CNMall41 (talk) 18:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose deletion, keep due to misguided nomination, company is legitimate and there are reliable sources about it, nbminator should perform WP:BEFORE submitting AfD, the "... company deserves to be deleted" appears subjective Nayyn (talk) 13:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are you able to opine on notability assuming the AfD is judged on the NCORP arguments and not the merits of the nomination? --CNMall41 (talk) 17:20, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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oppose deletion, keep It clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing requirements, and none of the deletion criteria apply.
1. Notability (WP:N)
It has received significant independent coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources: ** la Repubblica: “Vita da cacciatore di bachi informatici. ‘Vi racconto il grande mercato dello spionaggio digitale’”.[1] ** Vice: Lorenzo Franceschi‑Bicchierai, “Startup Offers $3 Million to Anyone Who Can Hack the iPhone”.[2] Joseph Cox, “As Phones Get Harder to Hack, Zero Day Vendors Hunt for Router Exploits”.[3] ** TechCrunch: Lorenzo Franceschi‑Bicchierai, “Price of zero‑day exploits rises as companies harden products against hackers”.[4] ** SC Media: “Crowdfense expands exploit acquisition program”.[5] ** Intelligence Online: “UAE : Abu Dhabi‑based vulnerability researcher Crowdfense undergoes a small revolution”.[6] “Emerging SIGINT powers seek own cyber‑bounty hunters”.[7]
2. Verifiability & Reliable Sources (WP:V, WP:RS)
All statements are supported by reputable third‑party publications; no self‑published sources are used except for uncontroversial corporate details (founding date, headquarters).
3. Neutral Point of View (WP:NPOV)
The article neutrally describes Crowdfense’s business model, pricing, and ethical considerations, with proper attribution (e.g. “According to TechCrunch…”, “Vice reports…”).
4. Deletion Criteria
It is not a trivial or ephemeral subject, nor promotional spam, and contains no copyright or BLP issues.
In summary, it satisfies WP:NOTABILITY, WP:VERIFIABILITY, and WP:NPOV. Mollatim (talk) 11:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)Mollatim (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

References

  1. ^ D’Alessandro, Jaime (5 August 2019). "Vita da cacciatore di bachi informatici. "Vi racconto il grande mercato dello spionaggio digitale"". la Repubblica (in Italian). Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  2. ^ Franceschi‑Bicchierai, Lorenzo (25 April 2018). "Startup Offers $3 Million to Anyone Who Can Hack the iPhone". Vice. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  3. ^ Cox, Joseph (7 March 2019). "As Phones Get Harder to Hack, Zero Day Vendors Hunt for Router Exploits". Vice. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  4. ^ Franceschi‑Bicchierai, Lorenzo (6 April 2024). "Price of zero‑day exploits rises as companies harden products against hackers". TechCrunch. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  5. ^ Staff, SC (9 April 2024). "Crowdfense expands exploit acquisition program". SC Media. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  6. ^ "UAE : Abu Dhabi‑based vulnerability researcher Crowdfense undergoes a small revolution". Intelligence Online. 30 August 2023. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  7. ^ "Emerging SIGINT powers seek own cyber‑bounty hunters". Intelligence Online. 16 May 2018. Retrieved 14 April 2025.
  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability and the references provided miss the mark. For example, the references provided by first-time-contributor Mollatim above mostly fail ORGIND as follows:
  • la Repubblica (in Italian) article relies entirely on information provided by the founder, Manzoni, who the author met in Rome, and has no "Independent Content", fails ORGIND
  • This first Vice article fails for the same reasons. The author was "told" by Manzoni all of the details and the article has no "Independent Content", fails ORGIND.
  • This also from Vice is totally based on an "announcement" and PR from Manzoni, fails ORGIND for the same reasons as the others above
  • Techcrunch article based on the company publishing an updated price list and regurgitates from that list what it is offering and what it offered previously. Unfortunately, the company doesn't provide any "Independent Content" about the company, it instead comments on the overall marketplace, and fails to provide in-depth info on the company. Fails ORGIND and CORPDEPTH.
  • This from SCWorld is based on the same "updated price list" information as the TechCrunch article, comes with the obligatory comments from the company, it is regurgitated PR, fails ORGIND and CORPDEPTH
  • The two references from Intelligence Online requires a subscription and I cannot access them right now. Based on the other references which first-time contributor posted above, none of which come close to meeting NCORP criteria, I'm inclined to assume these also will fail our criteria. Happy to change my stance if somebody can check out those article and confirm I'm mistaken tho. HighKing++ 12:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two references from Intelligence Online requires a subscription and I cannot access them right now
Perhaps something has changed or it is my computer's configuration but both pages are showing the message "An error occurred while loading the page, please contact customer service for assistance." Is this the same message you got?
first-time contributor
Interesting. Before going further I don't think this has any bearing on the notability debate, but a first time contributor with such proper formatting is rare. Hell, I can't format like that. I was curious how the Crowdfense article had grown in size so I looked at the edit history. IP 5.195.224.90 also added intelligence online citations to Zerodium as well as Crowdfense. They did turn up this article which could count towards notability? Article interweaves original thought, even though information still comes from the founder:
The policy of avoiding selling zero-day exploits to certain countries certainly sets Crowdfense apart. But it’s an interesting choice for a company headquartered in a nondemocratic Asian country notorious for both its love of new and expensive technology alongside its longstanding and continuing human rights abuses. Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 04:13, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The links provided by the Mollatim, the knowledgeable first-time contributor, point to a "paid-up subscription" page which is why you see the error message. This link shows a cut-off version inviting a subscription. You can do the same with the second link if you like. I pointed out that Mollatim was a first-time contributor for the same reasons you've highlighted - the editor demonstrates knowledge of formatting and referencing beyond an editor with comparable (lack of) experience. I agree that your opinion and my opinion might be that Crowdfense is unusual, but that isn't how we determine notability, that is why we look for reliable third-party sources that meet NCORP criteria. HighKing++ 12:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that your opinion and my opinion might be that Crowdfense is unusual, but that isn't how we determine notability, that is why we look for reliable third-party sources that meet NCORP criteria.
    I assume you made comment in reference to the last paragraph of mine, which you erroneously (no hard feelings ^^) removed the blockquote from. It is a quotation from this article, which I remarked about. It is not my own opinion. Regards, Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 00:11, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please note that there is no requirement for an article author to recuse themselves from an AfD about it. @Scaledish: feel free to amend your note to a !vote.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× 06:24, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've already stated my vote but I would just like to argument a bit more on it: Mollatim (talk) 05:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to those already cited, I found further coverage in a variety of independent publications and industry sources:
  • DEF CON 32 presentation: The Rise and Fall of Binary Exploitation discusses Crowdfense’s unique position and influence within the exploit acquisition market.[1]
  • Tactical Report details EDGE’s strategic partnership with Crowdfense.[2]
  • Security Affairs covers Crowdfense’s $30M exploit acquisition program.[3]
  • Analisi Difesa analyzes the company’s impact on the cybersecurity sector.[4]
  • Red Hot Cyber explores Crowdfense’s role and market pricing for 0days.[5]
  • Additional coverage in Cybersecurity-Help.cz[6] and CyberScoop.[7]
There are existing articles for companies in the same niche (e.g., Vupen and Zerodium), which are similarly covered in the media and referenced in industry discussions. Applying a stricter standard here than for comparable entities risks inconsistency and could create the impression of selective enforcement.
While Crowdfense may not be a household name, its role within the international vulnerability research and cyber capabilities market is significant, as recognized by independent analysts, journalists, and conference presenters. Wikipedia notability is about reliable, significant coverage, not mainstream popularity. Mollatim (talk) 05:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I went and listened to the 47 minute DEFCON talk and it is not about Crowdfense's position or influence. As far as Stephen Sims is concerned, he just looked at their website to grab a number for how much exploits can bring in. I briefly checked some of the others and I think you are overstating the impact of all of them. Moritoriko (talk) 02:00, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Stephen Sims, "The Rise and Fall of Binary Exploitation", DEF CON 32, 2024, [1]
  2. ^ UAE’s EDGE advances cyber acquisition with Crowdfense and plans further expansion, Tactical Report, 2024, [2]
  3. ^ Pierluigi Paganini, "Crowdfense launches $30M exploit acquisition program", Security Affairs, 2024, [3]
  4. ^ EDGE Group punta ad acquisire Crowdfense per rafforzarsi nella cybersicurezza, Analisi Difesa, 2024, [4]
  5. ^ Boom dei costi degli 0day, no-click su mobile: 9 milioni di euro sul listino Crowdfense, Red Hot Cyber, 2024, [5]
  6. ^ Crowdfense: 0day broker rises acquisition price for 2024, Cybersecurity-Help.cz, 2024, [6]
  7. ^ ICS zero-day exploit makes debut at Idaho cyber lab's S4, CyberScoop, 2024, [7]
  • Comment, I agree w/ HighKing's source analysis so leaning delete (although I can't access the Intelligence Online sources either)- but I found a few paywalled sources that seem to discuss the subject, a book[58] and a journal article[59]. Linking here in case anyone has access. Zzz plant (talk) 12:49, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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