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UNTV Cup Season 1

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These are individual seasons of the UNTV Cup, an amateur basketball league for charity aired by UNTV with teams composed of players from different Philippine government agencies. While the general tournament per se may be notable, individual seasons are not. This has been tagged for years, and is almost exclusively referenced to UNTV or to UNTV Cup, a case of WP:PRIMARY. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason, as part of a series:

Howard the Duck (talk) 15:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ICC Asia

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No such organization exists, complete WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and made-up. Asian Cricket Council is the actual organization. Vestrian24Bio 23:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete looks made up, as no sources suggest it exists. Even if it does, fails WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Redirect To Asian Cricket Council. Don't see any reason why it would be inaccurate unless it is WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. This is tough though, but definitely Don't Keep as standalone article. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the same as the Asian Cricket Council though. The ACC is a subordinate of the ICC, but ICC Asia is just a grouping together of ICC members presumably within the ICC power structure (if "ICC Asia" is even a real thing). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and merge if there is anything unique from here to Asian Cricket Council to clear up possible confusions, as if the content is checked both articles seems similar also found this source 1 , which helps further prove my point.Lorraine Crane (talk) 19:00, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Brandt (sportscaster)

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Restored previously deleted article; same concerns (notability, sourcing, etc.) May be AI-generated. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails WP:SPORTSPERSON. I ran the text through a AI detector (which aren't always accurate) and only small pieces of text were flagged. Notaoffensivename (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @R2025kt: has edited the article's talk page while logged out. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Seems to have been quite prominent as a broadcaster, see SIGCOV e.g. here, here, here, here, here, here, here, etc. Clearly notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:22, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Dave Brandt (sportscaster) is easily notable. See 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Keep. Like the others, I did not have to spend much time before finding for myself the numerous reliable secondary sources supporting WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY]. Zach^H007 22:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2013–14 South African rugby league season

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Another rugby league season that fails WP:GNG. The sources in this article mostly consist of Facebook and Twitter posts. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: All sources are non-independent/social media so fail to demonstrate notability. Most of the results are missing – for the Rhino Cup these could be completed with information from the separate article for that competition, but that is also sourced entirely from the SARL website. EdwardUK (talk) 16:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Mn1548 (talk) 06:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence this meets WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Facebook and Twitter posts alone do not make a subject notable. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:42, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2021–22 South African Rugby League season

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Rugby league season that fails WP:GNG, i was unable to find any coverage about it. Also, all of the sources in this article lead to error 404 pages. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:27, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There are archive copies of the sources available on web.archive.org, but as they are all from the governing body of the competition they do not demonstrate notability. EdwardUK (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Mn1548 (talk) 06:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence this meets WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails on verifiability grounds for the listed sources. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Illinois ODP

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Creator seriously removing speedy deletion tags on article created by themselves, Article generally looks promotional, fails WP:GNG fails to have significant coverage, not properly writings, lacks inline citations. Allblessed (talk) 20:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This program is not a promotional piece or a non-notable subject. It is a state affiliate of U.S. Youth Soccer and has produced multiple players who went on to compete at the professional and international level—including Olympic medalists like Casey Krueger. The article is being actively revised to remove any non-neutral language and to include coverage from independent and reliable sources.

If you feel parts of the article were too close to promotional or lacked sufficient citations, that’s a fair concern—but it’s something that can be improved through editing rather than deletion. Milicz (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ and keep on improving. Nominator is right that the article could be improved, so I have tagged the article accordingly with the issues they have identified (more and better references needed, needs to be revised to be more neutral in tone, likely contains original research). I have also added {{citation needed}} tags throughout, and added a reference and confirmed that there is other significant coverage that could be added (via ProQuest). In any case, the reasons given essentially amount to an argument to delete because cleanup is required, and this is invalid per WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. (Even though the desire for cleanup is appreciated.) Furthermore, there is no mention of any WP:BEFORE search. Strongly advise nominator to gain more experience in reading Wikipedia guidelines and editing in their areas of competence before nominating more articles for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What do you see [1] there is likely a possible COI, tho I’m still checking, my issue is why the creator keeps removing tags, moving articles back to mainspace, creator lacks experience and temperament. Also can you show me how that article meets WP:SIGCOV? Allblessed (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
your comment that I “lack experience and temperament” falls afoul of Wikipedia’s civility and personal-attack policies. Per WP:CIVIL (“avoid personal attacks”) and WP:AGF (“assume good faith”), we’re encouraged to critique content, not contributors. I’ve been an editor for over 21 years and remain committed to improving this article. If you have concerns about neutrality, sourcing, or structure, please point to specific passages or sources so we can address them together. Milicz (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milicz Point taken. It is kind of you to defend the nominator and to ask for specific feedback. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:49, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to address tone, and have added citations or removed claims I could not find proper citations for. Added ProQuest citations. Thank you for your suggestions Milicz (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. First of all, it is very clear to me that neither of the tagged criteria for speedy deletion (A7 and G11) apply. A before search, which appears to have not been performed by the nominator, shows there is at least some indication of significance. G11 requires the article to be exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles (emphasis included in policy). Cleanup is required but not to the point that the article is not salvageable. Much of the content is unsourced and the references there are not great. Most are either not independent or are player profiles with one-line mentions of the subject program. Moving to draftspace will allow any interested user to build the article up to encyclopedic standards before moving it back into mainspace. Frank Anchor 13:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - poorly sourced, promotional article written by SPA - they've also written similar topic Illinois Youth Soccer Association. Giant Snowman 10:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suggesting that my article must be self-promotional because “someone involved in ODP” wrote it is an ad hominem circumstantial (genetic) fallacy: it rejects the content based solely on an assumed motive or origin rather than evaluating the article’s actual sourcing and neutrality. I have zero involvement in that organization and am still researching it.

For context, this article emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” You’ll see that the article:

Notes ODP’s changing reputation, including that it has lost some of its earlier luster rather than presenting it as the undisputed pinnacle of development programs.

Cites independent coverage—local newspaper articles, US Youth Soccer annual reports, and academic analyses—rather than relying on press releases or self-published claims.

Maintains a neutral tone, focusing on verifiable facts about the program’s history, selection process, and outcomes.

If there are specific passages you feel remain promotional or poorly sourced, I’m happy to rewrite them or add better citations. I’m committed to meeting WP:NEUTRAL and WP:RS standards, so please let me know any additional reliable sources I should include. Milicz (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program. This fails notability for organizations. There is simply not enough significant coverage in reliable sources to warrant an individual article for this org. Citing affiliated clubs is not independent. I mean Reddit is referenced despite our policy on Reddit. Two incidental mentions in the Chicago Tribune and sporadic mentions in the context of high school player plays soccer in regional newspapers does not cut it. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The citation to Reddit was for the "Criticisms and challenges portion" and is not used to support any of the facts or notability. Milicz (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. Please read WP:RSREDDIT. You should not be using it as a citation at all.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Articles about things you like are not necessarily good things. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who says I like Illinois ODP? Article itself emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” As you can see (if you read it), that's an open question. Milicz (talk) 15:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I have started linking to that essay in AfDs because there is a subset of editors who think a Wikipedia article is a badge of honor and spend a lot of time trying to keep articles that should not exist. I could just as easily assume you hated ODP and wanted to create an attack page for this organization or that you are just very, very into youth soccer.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Striking my earlier !vote. Leaning either draftify or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program; this article absolutely cannot be kept as is. Milicz You can't cite other Wikipedia articles. See WP:CIRCULAR. You need to remove all those citations you've added to other Wikipedia articles (I removed one for you and then stopped) and replace them with other reliable sources (see WP:RS). Cielquiparle (talk) 04:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No Wikipedia citations are used to support any of the points, they're only used to link to the individuals or orgs, I will remove them and simply use the appropriate tags [[ ]] Milicz (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK @Milicz...starting to look a bit better. Do you think you could work out a way to explain that Illinois ODP also fields competitive girl's soccer teams in inter-state competitions in the lead paragraph? I think that is not really coming through unless you read further down. (If you only say "program" it sounds like a purely administrative thing which makes people want to delete it.) Cielquiparle (talk) 05:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:The Tags on the article are too alarming, check creators contributions, there are high similarities on articles created, now for example the article title is "Illinois ODP" but the first text is "Illinois Girls Olympic Development Program", It seams to have a slight deviation from the article title to be honest. I was to suggest that instead of the creator creating similar pages with different Page names, It would have been wise to just create one or two and provide good source, good writing, formatting skills and make the writing clearer to anyone who comes across the article to understand.

Allblessed (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it's not uncommon at all for the article title to be short (see WP:CONCISE) versus the first bolded reference to the subject to be long (as examples, see Barack Obama or George H. W. Bush). Please also have a read of WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. You are right to want good sources and good writing, but AfD should not be your first port of call in addressing cleanup issues. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see the contributions of the user? Did you see the consistency in removing CSD tags and moving drafts back to mainspace? Allblessed (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Allblessed it doesn’t help to challenge my removal of the CSD tags when those tags were added without proper justification. Wikipedia’s guidelines need to be applied consistently—both when adding and removing tags. Rules aren’t one-way streets. Rather than creating disputes, which you have done on my article), it would be more productive to collaborate on refining and improving the article itself. Milicz (talk) 15:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Milicz There is a proper and well outlined procedure for handling allegedly improper CSD tags, and it isn't removing them yourself. When you create an article, you are connected to it more than any other contributor, whether one likes it or not. We know you support the existence of the article, you created it, and it is a conflict of interest to remove these types of tags from something you created, no matter how repetitive or improper they may seem. When you are closely connected to a subject, as it appears you are (whether you're affiliated with them, whether you are working for them, whether you just really like youth soccer in the Land of Lincoln; I don't care, it's not relevant, what is relevant is the level to which you obviously care about this), it is imperative that you operate above reproach, so as to not even give the impression that you may be acting in a biased manner. You are held to a higher standard of behavior because you created the page. You are inherently unable to view any of this completely objectively, and that goes for any author, who creates any page.

Regarding the actions of other editors, it's important to remember that each situation is evaluated independently. While it can be frustrating if you perceive another editor as not following guidelines, their actions don't justify a similar response. Our focus should always be on adhering to the established procedures for every situation. Further, they did not create a dispute, you created a dispute when you removed a CSD tag from a page you created multiple times. (Almost) any repeated editing back and forth as was clearly done here is a violation of Wikipedia:Edit warring. Wikipedia is a community of editors working to help bring knowledge to the world. The task we have is infinite. We are guardians of and contributors to one of the last stanchions of truly free knowledge, the responsibility is awesome, and it must be treated as such. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Foxtrot620 I completely agree with you. Two wrongs don't make a right, but no one was harmed here and you can all still delete the article. Milicz (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply @Cielquiparle I went ahead and made your suggested change and I think it works better. Now that I’ve reviewed the title, the article should be split into two sections—one for the girls’ program and one for the boys’. I’ll research the boys’ side before drafting that section. Milicz (talk) 14:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Strong Delete: Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization simply does not meet the bar of notability or importance. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Strong Keep Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization clearly meets the bar of notability and importance. It'd be great if the delete crowd could backup the lack of notability argument. Do you not like women's soccer? Do you not think it's clear this org developed players that went on to represent the USA? Is the fact that those notable players advertise that they were in this program not an indicator that those individuals thought it was notable that they took part in it? It's referenced in plenty of material, but not the material you want? 20+ citations is not enough but other articles with a "need citations" tag can stick around for decades? I'm having trouble with the merits of the delete crowd. Easy call on this one for me. 4025MG (talk) 04:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment above !vote is by a confirmed sockpuppetry of Milicz and has been blocked. RedPatch (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. RedPatch (talk) 11:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Premier League on television

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No need for this to be a separate article from Indian Premier League. Vestrian24Bio 10:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting largely per WP:NOPAGE. This topic is adequately covered at the redirect target. Frank Anchor 12:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First off, this was intended as a place to reinstate some history regarding the history of its broadcast rights that had been unilaterally removed by another editor without explanation, while allowing the main article to have more of a streamlined summary. In addition, this article is modeled after several similar articles in American sports, including NFL on American television and Major League Soccer on television, with the possibly of including more details about things like the production, notable personnel, etc. ViperSnake151 Talk 17:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Vestrian24Bio 01:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting which covers the topic suitably. We don't need a separate page with this level of detail into the broadcasting, the summary already in IPL article is sufficient. The keep vote seems like WP:OSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It meets all Wikipedia guidelines for inclusion. Milicz (talk) 18:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have struck out this user for Sock puppetry. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:38, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect/Merge to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting Unlike sports like the NFL, NBA, MLB ad NHL, the focus on this Sport is at the International Level and the IPL is not the overwhelming focus of Cricket. Article is also quite small for an article on Sports broadcasting. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Initially even I thought that this article should be redirected, but when I looked at similar such articles of NFL and NHL, I realised that when the league will grow in years, broadcasters will change and there will be too much information to keep on the main IPL article. So we can put it all here and only summarise there. Also we can include various broadcasting/viewership records and stats here.

So I support in keeping this article here, as said above by other users aswell. Editking100 (talk) 21:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Editking100: see WP:OSE, Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Vestrian24Bio 03:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at WP:OSE as per you said, and my vote may not have followed the counterargument clause there, but my sole objective was to give information on the context (relevant here) wrt to other leagues doing the same and nothing else so I mentioned them here as a base example. I will not repeat it again, thanks for noting it to me. Editking100 (talk)

Your argument when the league will grow in years, broadcasters will change and there will be too much information to keep on the main IPL article is WP:CRYSTAL-based speculation. When and if the league grows and there becomes too much information to keep on the main IPL article, adding a spin-off article can be considered. But certainly not now. Frank Anchor 14:46, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can verify yourself, there is currently 4x or 5x more information on broadcasting here in this article as compared to the main IPL wikipage (broadcasting section). So this was my reason above when I said, I am in support for Keep here, considering we already have more information to fill a spinoff article currently citing 48 sources, which isn't included in the main page. Editking100 (talk)

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Keep: I usually try to avoid WP:OSE, but in this case, it's clear this article was modeled after similar ones in American sports such as the aforementioned NFL on American television and Major League Soccer on television. According to WP:NOPAGE, when many similar notable topics exist, it is impractical to collect them into a single page, because the resulting article would be too unwieldy. With the size of this article, I think the unwieldy argument applies in this case. In addition, the article is well-sourced, so it passes WP:GNG.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ridiculous- we are not a TV directory and so supporting keeping this (or any similar article) is a violation of this. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryan Killeen

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Completely fails WP:CITE and WP:NSPORT. Searching online seems to show almost no reliable or trustworthy sources. TSN bio appears to be completely gone. Football career is barely notable. (Especially pro career.) ESPN only shows the stats from a single year of this player's career. (In college.) NotJamestack (talk) 03:02, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Passes GNG. [2][3][4][5][6] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:46, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~:* Delete: Lacks SIGCOV~~

~~Andh Namazi (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)~~Struck !vote from user blocked as a sockpuppet[reply]

Keep: The LA Times and South Florida Sun-Sentinal sources from WikiOriginal-9 appear to be WP:SIGCOV of the subject with which to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. Let'srun (talk) 15:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep WikiOriginal-9's sources meet GNG, and there is additional coverage such as this from the Miami Herald and this from Rock Island Argus. Which is not surprising given that he was the kicker for 2 national championship college teams. Rlendog (talk) 15:38, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Greg Van Zant

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Could not find any SIGCOV to approve the subject's notability. Htanaungg (talk) 10:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Redirect~~ to West Virginia Mountaineers baseball#Head coaches, in which the subject is listed. Fails GNG due to a lack of SIGCOV. Willing to reconsider if additional coverage is made available, so please ping me. Frank Anchor 12:45, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to keep per the coverage identified by WikiOriginal-9. The first two references get the subject past the GNG finish line. Not by a lot, but enough to establish standalone notability. I consider the third to be a WP:ROUTINE transactional announcement. Frank Anchor 16:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment He was a two-time Big East Conference Baseball Coach of the Year and was the head coach at WVU from 1995 to 2012. I would be shocked if there wasn't SIGCOV on him. The problem is that online newspaper archives in WV are garbage. Take a look at the map of hits for "Greg Van Zant" on Newspapers.com. WV is blank (literally 0 hits). Not even a single passing mention for Greg Van Zant in WV even though that's where most of the coverage should be. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am in complete agreement that there "should" be SIGCOV on him but we can't just assume it exists. If nothing is found while the AFD is listed, redirecting preserves the page history to allow the article to be restored when and if SIGCOV is found and incorporated. Frank Anchor 15:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I'm just assuming. I would probably bet my life on there being SIGCOV. He has hundreds of passing mentions/transactional listings in other states, but literally 0 passing mentions/transactional listings in WV at all (where the SIGCOV would most likely be). His controversy with WVU star quarterback Pat White was even covered in other states but not in WV. If this doesn't qualify for NEXIST, I'm not really sure what would? I know NEXIST doesn't really work for sportspeople anymore though... I mean he even has a "fan" site (gvz-sucks.com) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Here is some SIGCOV I found on a Google search. [7][8][9] ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:47, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WikiOriginal-9. Billcasey905 (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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UNTV Cup Season 1

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These are individual seasons of the UNTV Cup, an amateur basketball league for charity aired by UNTV with teams composed of players from different Philippine government agencies. While the general tournament per se may be notable, individual seasons are not. This has been tagged for years, and is almost exclusively referenced to UNTV or to UNTV Cup, a case of WP:PRIMARY. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason, as part of a series:

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Gianna Bryant

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3rd nomination, first being delete second being redirected but somehow the article is still up. Fails notability and just because she is dead and a daughter of a popular NBA player doesn't mean she warrants a wikipedia article, what makes her sister who is somewhat more notable not have a wikipedia article? Megabyte21 (talk) 02:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I think that the references aleady present in the article add up to independent notability. The fact that her father is notable doesn't take away from the fact that she is as well. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:20, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Kobe Bryant as the previous AfD did. Notaoffensivename (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non-notable individual. I'm not sure what she would be notable for, other than being the daughter of a famous person that died at age 13.Had she not died, there would be no article, appears to have had a rather routine life for a 13 yr old. Oaktree b (talk) 14:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. This is a hard decision, but agree merging with Kobe Bryant. She does have some significant coverage that could meet notability guidelines but I think it is mainly covering on her tributes after death. Galaxybeing (talk) 14:53, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Kobe Bryant. While it's true Gianna Bryant was full of promise, most of the sources cited in this article were written after her unfortunate passing. This seems to be a case of WP:BLP1E, so I think it's better to merge the information here with the article on her very notable father.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I am confused about the statement in the nomination that "what makes her sister who is somewhat more notable not have a wikipedia article?". If her sister meets our notability guidelines and someone wants to write an article about her, she'll have an article. I don't see what that has to do with Gianna's article. Rlendog (talk) 15:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lancaster Roses

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Redirect to Lancaster Red Roses (basketball) as it refers to the same team. Nayyn (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - not sure this needed an AfD. I think this could just be redirected as an edit. If the nominator wants to withdraw the nomination and just redirect it, I would not object. Rlendog (talk) 15:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samba Diallo (boxer)

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Oppose redirect as unlikely search term "Samba Diallo (boxer)" as there is also another person of same name on WP. LibStar (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Anthony Lontayao

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Fails NBIO. Not supported by reliable and significant coverage. Fancy Refrigerator ^(talk) 23:24, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - zero sources in the Philippines media, which loves their feature stories and boxing. Bearian (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Not seeing significant independent coverage from reliable sources. Mentions appear to be at blogs, youtube, facebook, linked in, and some mentions in articles about fights he announced. None of that shows WP notability to me. Papaursa (talk) 17:16, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not opposed to draftify if the subject can be have more SIGCOV to support it meantime though it cannot stay as it is.Lorraine Crane (talk) 19:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete reliabilty and depth is lacking per nom on NBIO fail. Fails SIGCOV. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:52, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guy-Elie Boulingui

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Declined prod. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 03:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Gabon at the 1996 Summer Olympics#Boxing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 13:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Clearly not notable enough for a standalone article, but he's already mentioned at the redirect target. Papaursa (talk) 17:06, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gabon at the 1996 Summer Olympics#Boxing: The only reference is a database, and I couldn't find anything better to support notability. Redirect as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sho Nogami

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Not meet WP:NBOX HumanRight 02:43, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Why was this listed in sport of athletics? LibStar (talk) 06:25, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment NBOX doesn't mean squat. Wayne Gretzky fails WP:NHOCKEY. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 07:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete My search didn't turn up the significant independent coverage to meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO, nor does the subject meet the relevant SNG. I admittedly don't read Japanese, so please let me know if significant supporting evidence is added. Papaursa (talk) 09:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ICC Asia

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No such organization exists, complete WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and made-up. Asian Cricket Council is the actual organization. Vestrian24Bio 23:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete looks made up, as no sources suggest it exists. Even if it does, fails WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Redirect To Asian Cricket Council. Don't see any reason why it would be inaccurate unless it is WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. This is tough though, but definitely Don't Keep as standalone article. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the same as the Asian Cricket Council though. The ACC is a subordinate of the ICC, but ICC Asia is just a grouping together of ICC members presumably within the ICC power structure (if "ICC Asia" is even a real thing). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and merge if there is anything unique from here to Asian Cricket Council to clear up possible confusions, as if the content is checked both articles seems similar also found this source 1 , which helps further prove my point.Lorraine Crane (talk) 19:00, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Premier League on television

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No need for this to be a separate article from Indian Premier League. Vestrian24Bio 10:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting largely per WP:NOPAGE. This topic is adequately covered at the redirect target. Frank Anchor 12:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: First off, this was intended as a place to reinstate some history regarding the history of its broadcast rights that had been unilaterally removed by another editor without explanation, while allowing the main article to have more of a streamlined summary. In addition, this article is modeled after several similar articles in American sports, including NFL on American television and Major League Soccer on television, with the possibly of including more details about things like the production, notable personnel, etc. ViperSnake151 Talk 17:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Vestrian24Bio 01:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting which covers the topic suitably. We don't need a separate page with this level of detail into the broadcasting, the summary already in IPL article is sufficient. The keep vote seems like WP:OSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It meets all Wikipedia guidelines for inclusion. Milicz (talk) 18:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have struck out this user for Sock puppetry. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:38, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect/Merge to Indian Premier League#Broadcasting Unlike sports like the NFL, NBA, MLB ad NHL, the focus on this Sport is at the International Level and the IPL is not the overwhelming focus of Cricket. Article is also quite small for an article on Sports broadcasting. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Initially even I thought that this article should be redirected, but when I looked at similar such articles of NFL and NHL, I realised that when the league will grow in years, broadcasters will change and there will be too much information to keep on the main IPL article. So we can put it all here and only summarise there. Also we can include various broadcasting/viewership records and stats here.

So I support in keeping this article here, as said above by other users aswell. Editking100 (talk) 21:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Editking100: see WP:OSE, Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Vestrian24Bio 03:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at WP:OSE as per you said, and my vote may not have followed the counterargument clause there, but my sole objective was to give information on the context (relevant here) wrt to other leagues doing the same and nothing else so I mentioned them here as a base example. I will not repeat it again, thanks for noting it to me. Editking100 (talk)

Your argument when the league will grow in years, broadcasters will change and there will be too much information to keep on the main IPL article is WP:CRYSTAL-based speculation. When and if the league grows and there becomes too much information to keep on the main IPL article, adding a spin-off article can be considered. But certainly not now. Frank Anchor 14:46, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can verify yourself, there is currently 4x or 5x more information on broadcasting here in this article as compared to the main IPL wikipage (broadcasting section). So this was my reason above when I said, I am in support for Keep here, considering we already have more information to fill a spinoff article currently citing 48 sources, which isn't included in the main page. Editking100 (talk)

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Keep: I usually try to avoid WP:OSE, but in this case, it's clear this article was modeled after similar ones in American sports such as the aforementioned NFL on American television and Major League Soccer on television. According to WP:NOPAGE, when many similar notable topics exist, it is impractical to collect them into a single page, because the resulting article would be too unwieldy. With the size of this article, I think the unwieldy argument applies in this case. In addition, the article is well-sourced, so it passes WP:GNG.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ridiculous- we are not a TV directory and so supporting keeping this (or any similar article) is a violation of this. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Cycling

International Cycling History Conference

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No refs on the page which are independent of the subject. Nothing much found which suggests there are sufficient RS to show that the notability criteria for inclusion have been met JMWt (talk) 19:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ndjibu N'Golomingi

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 19:55, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Since there isn't a clear redirect target. Svartner (talk) 23:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 03:58, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per LibStar, the subject fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and so the article should be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Riaan Manser

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Promotional article about a person with one source that reports on the WP:SINGLEEVENT. The rest is unsourced puffery. No longstanding WP:SIGCOV. ZimZalaBim ^talk 03:52, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. A long article based on a single source seems problematic. Svartner (talk) 08:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Spragg, Iain (2014). "Manser's African Odyssey". Cycling's Strangest Tales: Extraordinary But True Stories. London: Portico. pp. 110–111. ISBN 978-1-909396-49-4. Retrieved 2025-06-21 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes: "That's a hell of a lot of pedalling if you were to undertake the epic journey on a humble bicycle, but such trifling obstacles did not deter South African adventurer Riaan Manser when he decided to accept exactly that daunting challenge, an ambitious expedition which very nearly killed him. Manser set off on his trusty mountain bike from Cape Town in September 2003. He averaged an impressive 88.5km (55 miles) per day and after two years, two months and 15 days in the saddle, travelling through 34 different countries, he had become the first person to circumnavigate Africa on two wheels. ... Manser's feat was recognised when he was named 'Adventurer of the Year' by Out There magazine in 2006 and granted an audience with Nelson Mandela. He politely declined an offer to work for the Liberian Tourist Board."
2. Razzetti, Steve (2010). Great Cycle Journeys of the World. London: New Holland Publishers. p. 15. ISBN 978-1-84773-463-1. Retrieved 2025-06-21 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes: "Riaan Manser from Cape Town went one better. In September 2003 he set out on his mountain bike to ride the whole way around the continent. Two years, two months and two days later he was back, having pedalled an incredible 36,500 km (22,680 miles) through 34 counties, lost 14 kg (31 lbs) in weight, learned French, Portuguese and Arabic, eaten monkeys, rats and bats and been kidnapped by child-soldiers in Liberia. The journeys described in the pages that follow may not be quite as epic, but they will certainly open your eyes to the wonders of this most wonderful of continents."
3. Simontacchi, Andrew V. (2014-06-18). "World renowned adventurer Riaan Manser makes stop in Great Kills Marina after 5-month row across Atlantic (with photos)". Staten Island Advance. Archived from the original on 2025-06-21. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notes: "That's been the reality for Riaan Manser, a renowned world traveler and self-proclaimed professional adventurer whose five-month, 5,000-mile rowboat trek from Morocco to New York City included a stop at the Atlantis Marina in Great Kills on Wednesday. ... The long-haired, long-bearded Manser, 40, was hanging out with Ms. Geldenguys in their home one day when they decided they would venture to New York City in an incredible way -- via rowboat. Without a support staff, the couple set off in December, with a portioned supply of food and water donated from a South African grocer. ... Manser is a traveling author and public speaker outside of his professional adventuring"
4. "SA adventurer Riaan Manser and his wife Vasti were stuck on a small boat together for 173 days – What they learnt could help you through lockdown". News24. 2020-04-13. Archived from the original on 2025-06-21. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notes: "In 2009 Riaan Manser set on a world first when he became the first person to circumnavigate Madagascar by kayak. The expedition lasted 11 months, a feat he achieved alone and unaided. The incredible 5000km journey, 5000 km, was demanding, both physically and mentally. Not only did Riaan have to overcome severe loneliness, but natural disasters, extreme weather conditions, and ten hours in saltwater wreaked havoc on his body. ... Four years after his solo trip, Riaan and his wife Vasti took on the waters of the Atlantic Ocean. They endured a 173-day expedition from Agadir, Morocco to New York City, USA. ... In 2018, Riaan was joined on his 7-metre rowing boat, by rowing rookie and a total stranger Fanafikile Lephakha for a 5500 km expedition from the Canary Islands to Barbados which would last nearly two months."
5. Kilgannon, Corey (2014-06-21). "Adventurous Couple Arrive in New York From Africa, Merrily, Merrily". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2015-11-09. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notes: "Riaan Manser and Vasti Geldenhuys, a fun-loving couple from Cape Town, have been together for 14 years, so when Ms. Geldenhuys, 36, suggested a vacation, he was agreeable. ... Mr. Manser, 40, is a professional adventurer who, without Ms. Geldenhuys, a lawyer, has traveled the perimeter of Africa on a bicycle and around Madagascar and Iceland by kayak. So he suggested that the two row a boat from Africa to the United States, with no accompanying vessels. They completed that journey around 2 p.m. on Friday, rowing their custom-built, 22-foot, high-tech rowboat into the 79th Street Boat Basin almost six months after leaving Agadir, Morocco, on Dec. 30. After rowing almost 6,700 miles, they claim they are the first pair to row from mainland Africa to mainland North America."
6. "Riaan Manser – Do something almost impossible". The Newspaper. 2023-06-05. Archived from the original on 2025-06-21. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notes: "First, it was Riaan Manser, alone and unaided…cycling the entire perimeter of the African continent, then circumnavigating Madagascar in a kayak and similarly around Iceland in a double kayak, adding two more incredible world firsts to his name. He then met his adventure partner for life, Vasti. Together, they broke world records through their adventures; from a world-first ocean row – Africa to North America, and then earning another Guinness World Record during a subsequent ocean crossing – the fastest mid-Pacific row from California to Hawaii."
7. Monakali, Namhla (2024-10-01). "Renowned adventurer Riaan Manser captivated primary school learners with thrilling tales from his travels". People's Post. Archived from the original on 2025-06-21. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notse: "Manser, whose children’s book My First African Adventure, was awarded the overall winner of the SA Book Awards 2023, spoke to the Grade 3s to 6s about his remarkable adventures, including a journey cycling around the perimeter of Africa. ... After the talk Manser signed copies of his books, including My First Wild Island Adventure and My First African Adventure, for students and staff alike."
8. de Lange, Phil (2023-05-16). "Riaan Manser's brush with death". Smile 90.4FM. Archived from the original on 2025-06-21. Retrieved 2025-06-21.
  The article notes: "He’s known as the South African that has conquered the world’s toughest oceans and most hostile environments. But now Riaan Manser is about to take his whole family on an adventure. He told Ryan all about it this morning and also shared a story about one of his scariest adventures. First, it was Riaan Manser, alone and unaided…cycling the entire perimeter of the African continent. Then he circumnavigated Madagascar in a kayak and Iceland in a double kayak which added two more world firsts to his name."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Riaan Manser to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 09:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryo Yamashita

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Reverted based on NFOOTY, which we no longer use. 7 professional appearances, no Japanese Wikipedia page, fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Daiki Kawato

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Reverted based on NFOOTY, which we no longer use. 10 professional appearances, the rest are at lower levels, fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fumiya Tamaki

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Reverted based on NFOOTY, which we no longer use. 1 professional appearance, hasn't played since 2018. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:48, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Shu Mogi

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Reverted based on NFOOTY, which we no longer use. No WP:SIGCOV found by Svartner. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:47, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RC Calais

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They are a continuation of another club, Calais RUFC. SportsLover1967 (talk) 11:06, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep no actual reason for deletion has been specified, and it's not clear as to why this should be merged with the other article as they are separate clubs. SportingFlyer T·C 14:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They are the same. Same Stadium, Same colors and identical branding. SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The club is only 2 years old. SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This makes it seem like they are two different clubs completely. The crests are different. I don't think this is really the case. And being only two years old is no reason for deletion. SportingFlyer T·C 22:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SportingFlyer. No reason to delete. Giant Snowman 18:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. They are the same team. 94.196.144.75 (talk) 19:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep – Without prejudice to a merger discussion. It is necessary to find out how the issue of phoenix clubs works in the French league. Svartner (talk) 22:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karlo Belak

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Footballer who only played in lower leagues of Slovenia and his homeland, Croatia. Regarding secondary sources, I found Germanijak, which is far from SIGCOV. I found another news coverage on RadioNG, but it's about an artist from Okučani, thus certainly not the same person. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The Germanijak link is an interview with him, he is also covered here. He is best known for playing in Europe with Milsami and was also covered [10] [11] and lesser coverage [12] [13] [14] Two other articles, one from Zadar and one from Moldova, appeared in searches but had digitally rotted. But there is more than enough for an article. SportingFlyer T·C 14:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per SportingFlyer sources. Svartner (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan women's national under-20 football team

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This article lacks reliable sources, is very short, not maintained or updated, and fails to establish notability. It appears to be a non-notable topic with no coverage in independent, reliable sources. Ziad0tarek952005 (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect and part merge to Afghanistan women's national football team, should be simply enough to take some of the information which is viable and put on the senior woman's article under a new sub heading. Govvy (talk) 08:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan national under-20 football team

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The article lacks reliable sources, contains very minimal content. Ziad0tarek952005 (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there are sources out there, WP:BEFORE applies - see e.g. this. Article needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 18:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – As I said: is an active U20 national team, even with a lack of sources there is notability. Svartner (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mama Diop

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, Sources 1,2,3,6,7 and 8 are at best trivial sources. Source 5 is an interview with the subject, and is not a secondary source. Which leaves source #4, which is hidden behind a paywall. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Per new sources found. Svartner (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Source 4 is fine, this from Senegal confirms she got an award [15]. Probably just enough. Oaktree b (talk) 19:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This [16], this [17], also are coverage from her home country. Also played for the national team, suggests notability [18]. Oaktree b (talk) 19:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Source 4, this source, is not behind a paywall and is a Radio France Internationale story entirely about her. The award she won from the French Football Federation is also well covered. There's a number of other sources out there on her as well. Silver seren^C 22:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Denys Marchenko

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Contested draftification; returned to mainspace without any source containing WP:SIGCOV contra WP:NSPORT. A WP:BEFORE search turns up only database pages and routine match coverage, nothing that qualifies for WP:GNG/NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:58, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe search in Ukrainian. I can see a lot of sources. Andriyrussu (talk) 18:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to share them (and add them to the article). I did indeed search in Ukrainian and found no SIGCOV, but if you can show me what I missed I’m happy to withdraw this nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. Per WP:NFOOTBALL criteria 1: Have played for a fully professional club at a national level of the league structure. He played 11 matches for Obolon in a top national league. [19] Teterev53 (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NFOOTBALL, its guidance for players has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports), and is included below for information only as a record of the previous guidance that the Footy project came up with. NFOOTBALL is deprecated since 2022; footballers must meet WP:GNG with WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How much sources are needed for player? Teterev53 (talk) 17:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two WP:SIGCOV at a minimum. Giant Snowman 19:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - there are some sources coming up in Ukrainian searches but none of them seem to show significant coverage. Sport Arena has a post-match Q&A and Sport.ua is just a transfer rumour yet those seem to be the best that I can find. The actual third party coverage about Marchenko in these news articles is next to nothing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tatsuya Morishige

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Only seven professional appearances in 1995, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hirotaka Iida

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Only one professional appearance in 2002, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Amateur footballer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.38.224.201 (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroyuki Takahashi (footballer)

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Only one professional appearance in 2002, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:01, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chinguila

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Played for Angola national team, but I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 00:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Gee

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify not enough coverage right now, maybe in future if he plays some matches then there will be coverage. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Somto Boniface

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program

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Cleanup of series of articles created by now blocked SPA that has been creating multiude of articles on youth soccer in a local area that do not pass GNG RedPatch (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Not a notable enough for a stand alone article, user has been CU blocked, the article isn’t well written and it is written like a blog post, there are no independent reliable sources. Allblessed (talk) 23:41, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Illinois Soccer League

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Non-notable youth league which has been deleted before. Created by now blocked SPA, creating a multitude of articles regarding subjects in youth soccer in Chicago area that fail GNG RedPatch (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Brodi Hughes

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CPL Girls Soccer Championship Final

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Basically same situation as Amundson Girls Soccer, Illinois ODP, Lane Tech Girls Soccer. Non-GNG articles created by a SPA that has now been blocked for sockpuppetry. RedPatch (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Chicago Public High School League or delete, either is fine. Giant Snowman 11:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect – Per GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 15:30, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kohei Ueda

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Previously deleted by prod. 17 professional appearances, fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 00:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Tsukada

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Previously deleted by prod. 3 professional appearances, the rest are at a lower level. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 00:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, galaxies away from notability. Geschichte (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jun Kokubo

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Unsourced article by a player who only have spells at teams in J League 2 and below in the Japanese league system. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. 108 games in the J2 League, that's a quite different calibre from the junk we have deleted the past year. A thorough WP:JAPANBEFORE (as coined by @Miminity) is needed. Geschichte (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability - but agree with Geschichte that there could/should be coverage out there. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Brooking

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Non-league footballer. At least eight references here are primary sources. Uhooep (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. Two half-decent sources about Bafana, not enough. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:26, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amundsen Girls Soccer

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High school sports teams are generally not notable unless there is widespread coverage on a national level, which is not the case here. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:14, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete sadly it's a decent little article but the sourcing is just not here to support a youth football club per WP:YOUNGATH. SportingFlyer T·C 15:31, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:YOUNGATH covers athletes, not teams, although it doesn't appear that this subject meets the WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM either from what I can tell. Let'srun (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Athletes yes, but YOUNGATH describes what coverage is excluded for the purposes of youth sports notability, which includes almost if not every source here. SportingFlyer T·C 15:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Amundsen High School#Athletics – Where the team is mentioned. Svartner (talk) 17:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 11:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Redirect as per SporingFlyer and Svartner. RedPatch (talk) 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Lane Tech Girls Soccer

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High school sports teams are generally not notable unless there is widespread coverage on a national level, which is not the case here. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Lane Tech College Prep High School#Athletics – Where the team is mentioned. Svartner (talk) 17:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 11:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'Redirect as per above. RedPatch (talk) 11:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect per the above. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will Bates

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The highest level the subject played in was the third tier of American soccer before presumably retiring from the sport. While Bates was drafted and signed by the Seattle Sounders, a first tier team, he never made a single appearance. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Barron

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The highest level the subject played was the third tier of the US soccer pyramid and his career was brief. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No WP:SIGCOV in refs, so fails WP:SPORTCRIT. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:52, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG, no reliable secondary sourcing to confirm notability. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 16:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article says he played for the Orange County Blues in the USL Championship, which is the second tier in American soccer. Notaoffensivename (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was a third tier team when he played for it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orange_County_SC_seasons Raskuly (talk) 06:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops. Sorry about that. Notaoffensivename (talk) 07:31, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Bashti

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The highest level the subject played in was for the reserve affiliate of Atlanta United before retiring from the sport. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Subject appears to have coverage in [[20]], [[21]], and [[22]]. I'd say this subject meets the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 15:07, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aye Aye Moe

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Bringing this back to AFD 8 years later. WP:NSOCCER has changed and this article fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to ~~Myanmar women's national football team~~. ITYM "Bringing this back to AfD" not "GNG" above. Cielquiparle (talk) 01:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC) Note: Updating redirect target to List of Myanmar women's international footballers per discussion below. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:04, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:37, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as Cielquiparle stated. The main reason it was kept in 2017 was due to her national team appearances. However, many women's Burmese footballers don't have articles because they do not meet notability criteria (like her). Notaoffensivename (talk) 01:58, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - There really isn't any harm in keeping it. It isn't promotional, and does list an award she received. Notability could definitely go either way, but why get rid of it? I'd fall back on WP:NTEMP to keep it, even though it only explicitly applies to WP:GNG. - Ike Lek (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, because of how Burmese names work and how common a name Aye Aye Moe is, it seems really tough to determine whether or not she really does meet WP:GNG. Ike Lek (talk) 09:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of Myanmar women's international footballers which is imho a better target @Cielquiparle and Notaoffensivename:. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If consensus is redirect, this is definitely a better target. Ike Lek (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Sounds good. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Myanmar women's international footballers per GiantSnowman. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jorden Feliciano

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This was PROD'd. Changing to AfD for greater input. The prod reasoning was "Doesn't pass GNG, assistant coaches usually dont get page without GNG. refs are all just casual mentions" RedPatch (talk) 09:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- I basically wrote this article, but I concede the argument that it's of limited notability. (Sorry, I guess I got a bit too completionist.)

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Delete: Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and GNG. Must be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:48, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

France national football team results (1920–1959)

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Unlikely search term, no idea why we need to inform people that these years are split over two articles. We can then also create disambigs for 1904-1959, or 1920-1999, or any other possible such combination from Category:France national football team results. As far as I can tell, it's not as if this existed but has been split, unlike France national football team results (1921–1959) which has some history. Fram (talk) 08:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note from page creator: I have no objection to moving the content of France national football team results (1920–1959) to France national football team results (1921–1959), followed by deletion of the 1920-1959 page. As Fram said, it has some history: a split. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I have copied the content over myself and converted the redirect into a disambig page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with Fram, unneeded disambiguation page. Govvy (talk) 09:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Per above. The content has already been properly organized. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Wang Zixiang

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WP:PROD reversed with summary "played fully pro games and abroad and has sources like...[sources]". By the age of 27 he has played two "fully pro" games, in China's second division. He did play abroad, but the writing "Spanish La Liga side Granada after training with Udinese in the Italian Serie A and trialing for Dutch club Vitesse" is missing the mark - those clubs' first teams play in those divisions, but he was on Granada's under-19 side. The sources provided in the edit summary are interviews from 2017, when he was a youth player. In my local newspaper I could find interviews with teenagers on the same topic, but that doesn't mean they're notable players. There's a genre of interest in certain youth team stars who never made it - such as Sonny Pike - but I don't think being passed over by Granada matches that level. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - @Das osmnezz mentioned some sources when deproded. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sources mentioned are [23], [24] and [25]. It would be helpful if they had been kept in the nomination statement, rather than replaced with [sources], so they can be evaluated by participants. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The sources I cited have secondary coverage... on top of that he has made pro appearances and was considered a top Chinese goalkeeping prospect who played abroad. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 17:51, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the sources, don't these fall under WP:YOUNGATH? They are pretty old though, so perhaps there is newer coverage that resolves this? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing is not sufficient for YOUNGATH and is not SUSTAINED, failing GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 17:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Just to clear things up, I was going to give Das osmnezz some time to add the sources to the article before taking it to Afd - I'm going to vote based on what happens to the article. I appreciate Unknown Temptation for starting the afd, don't want to sound like I'm annoyed about it xD - as in it's current state, it doesn't have enough sources. If Das can update the article and add the Chinese sources they know about, I'll vote. I'll keep an eye on this. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. Someone needs to explain the new sources as SIGCOV. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @GiantSnowman:, @Svartner:, @RossEvans19:, Sources include:

- [26] ("If it weren't for his 189cm height, Wang Zixiang, who has been busy following his parents and staff, would be easily ignored as a "runner". Unlike many choleric football teenagers, he was taken to the Workers' Stadium by his father to cheer for Guoan at the age of 4... Wang Zixiang's love for football came from his father. His father, Wang Aijun, was a die-hard and loyal football fan whose childhood dream was to become a professional player. Although he did not achieve his dream due to some unforeseen circumstances, Wang Aijun immediately placed his hopes on his son - watching Guoan at the Workers' Stadium was the first time Wang Zixiang came into contact with football. When Wang Zixiang was 5 years old, his father sent him to Balizhuang Central Primary School in Chaoyang District to play football. Former Guoan player Shao Jiayi started his football career here. Because the school was a boarding school, the young son could not adapt to the pain of not seeing his parents. Especially when he left home for the first time to go to school, Wang Zixiang kept hugging his parents' legs and cried and refused to let go. Fortunately, this period of time, which he described as "very unhappy", "always crying and making a fuss", and "unable to sleep", did not last too long. Two years later, Wang Zixiang joined the Beijing Cross-Country Football Club, and it was here that his football career underwent the first major change. In September 2008, before a game of the team, due to the absence of the goalkeeper for some reason, the tall Wang Zixiang was temporarily appointed as the goalkeeper by Coach Zhao... After training in the cross-country club, Wang Zixiang went to Shanghai to join the Lucky Star Club in September 2010. There, he got the opportunity to be selected for the Chinese youth team with his good performance. After that, Wang Zixiang also briefly trained and played with Shanghai Shenhua and Beijing Guoan. Although he just turned 18 a month ago, this Beijing boy has a very rich youth training resume. Last November, Wang Zixiang was accepted as a closed disciple by Beijing football legend Li Songhai. In the latter's opinion... At present, in the 1997 and 1998 age group where Wang Zixiang is, the one who can be called the number one goalkeeper in China should be the young player Zhang Yan who has just been transferred to the Beijing Guoan first team. In many competitions that the national youth team participated in last year, he played for the country as the main goalkeeper. Wang Zixiang is no stranger to Zhang Yan. The two had trained and played together in the Guoan echelon a few months ago. Unlike Wang Zixiang who spent his life in Beijing and Shanghai, Zhang Yan's youth training career represents the growth experience of most young players in China. They graduated from key football schools and then entered the professional club echelon, waiting for the opportunity to become a professional player. However, due to the incomplete youth training system in many cities in China and even in the country as a whole, not to mention substitutes, even the main players can hardly compete with amateur teenagers in Japan and South Korea. Therefore, in order to improve their competition experience, young people like Wang Zixiang have to change teams frequently - in order to have a stable competition position, they even have to come to a strange city to fight. Many years ago, Wang Aijun sent Wang Zixiang to Shanghai to play football because he didn't want his son to only serve as a substitute for Zhang Yan... this young man who idolizes Zeng Cheng and Buffon")

- [27] ("Wang Zixiang, a Beijing native born in 1998. He was selected for the 1998 national youth team and played in the 2014 Asian Youth Championship. Wang Zixiang has been seeking to study abroad. At the end of 2015, he went to the Dutch Eredivisie for a trial. In March 2016, he trained with the Udinese first team for nearly three months. On August 8, 2016, he joined Granada. Although he is a U19 player, he is currently training with the B team")

- [28] ("Who is Wang Zixiang?... He once played for Shanghai Lucky Star Football Club and was a substitute goalkeeper in the 97/98 age group. He first learned football in a well-known cross-country football club in Beijing. Because of his tall stature, he temporarily played as a goalkeeper, and then played goalkeeper until he entered the football echelon. With the help of the cooperation between desports and the Italian Pozzo family, Wang Zixiang got the opportunity to play football in Italy. Wang Zixiang will first receive top European goalkeeper technical training in Udinese in Serie A, and then he will have the opportunity to join La Liga and the Premier League depending on the actual situation. He will become the second Chinese goalkeeper to experience the atmosphere of Serie A football after the current national goalkeeper Wang Dalei")

- [29]

- among many more Chinese and Spanish sources. Again, on top of that he has made fully pro league appearances and was clearly considered a top Chinese goalkeeping prospect who played abroad. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 06:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please improve the article by adding sources and accomoanying prose, and ping me, and I'll re-visit per WP:HEY. Giant Snowman 07:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter what the state of the article is if the sources fail our guidelines. JoelleJay (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The sources above are covered by WP:YOUNGATH. Sources that tell us about a young hopeful who is off to play European football do not speak to the notability of a football player. We would need more sources over an extended period. These sources are from 8 or 9 years ago. If the young hopeful became a notable footballer, there would be more coverage of this. What happened after he got to Europe? Why do we have no coverage of that? 18 year old Chinese hopeful travels to Europe is not an encyclopaedic article, it's a human interest story for the Chinese market. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:00, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevon Harris (footballer)

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Played for USL Pro and USL Second Division clubs and have a single match for Jamaica national team, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 14:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Found this as well as mentions from the 2001 Youth World Cup. Geschichte (talk) 08:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Corey Whisenhunt

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Played for USL League Two and USL Pro clubs, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The best I could find was [[30]] which is a WP:YOUNGATH failure. The WP:GNG is simply not met here due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Toric Robinson

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Played for USL League Two and USL Pro clubs, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 13:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ayumu Matsumoto

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Only appearances fo J-League 3, and a total lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I couldn't find anything. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia is poorly-sourced. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 04:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV for this footballer. The article needs to be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fin Roberts

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Declined PROD. Article with several basic information missing, based on two database sources. I couldn't find anything about him after a WP:BEFORE. Svartner (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft? Little bits on the web, Did you see those in your WP:BEFORE? BBC Line-up, BBC gets a mention. Mostly primary sources and databases online atm. Govvy (talk) 20:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Han Chang-joo

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Declined PROD. Only three professional appearances in J–League 2 [31] and a total lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. 3 appearances confirmed, subtract 3 from that and you have his notability. Geschichte (talk) 08:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. Article does not meet WP:SPORTBASIC. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 16:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Korean Wikipedia is just an unsourced stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 04:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:57, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable South Korean footballer. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liam Borchers

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Not really clear to me how notable: sources include a few local news sites about his books, but the books themselves don't seem to be notable; orphan article and may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, so page does not really contribute to the wiki in any meaningful way while possibly contravening its terms of use Toffeenix (talk) 05:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. The person who took the photo of Liam also created the article, which isn't always a red flag, but in this case it is. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:59, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing the GNG. With a positive outlook just maybe TOOSOON. The books are self-published, the coverage human interest. The editing does not look paid at all. gidonb (talk) 05:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete some not insignificant COI concerns, but also more relevant, the subject is non-notable as of now. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Ruscoe

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Person is of no significance LoveAlbatross37 (talk) 09:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, doesn't meet WP:NBASIC or WP:GNG as a lot of the sources are quite trivial or not significantly in depth of Ruscoe himself but rather the teams he was connected too, especially the non-local sources. Dank Jae 19:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a CV masquerading as an encyclopedia article. SportingFlyer T·C 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Fails GNG, SPORSTCRIT, and SIGCOV. Article should be deleted as this does not appear likely to change. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FC United of Wrexham

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Club are of no significance and have never played at a level of notoriety. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveAlbatross37 (talk • contribs) 09:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't trust the nominator, I believe they maybe a WP:SOCK. Govvy (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Owen Lunt

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Not a G4, but neither have the issues raised at either of the prior AfDs been addressed. I've also done some paperwork, but am not positive of the results. Star Mississippi 02:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep In one season he went on loan, came back and then went on to make a total of 19 professional appearance for Crewe. With the fact he signed a new contract, I'm under the impression he is becoming more notable. Regardless of the WP:PRIMARY sources present, there are a few secondary and if he has a good coming season then that helps even more. It's a weak keep for me, but I feel it's a fair assessment on his notability and where his career is. Govvy (talk) 08:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which sources there are secondary? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC ones obviously! :/ Govvy (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Okay, I see two BBC sources:
Rotherham United 2 - 1 Crewe Alexandra - Clearly a match report which is equally clearly a primary source.

Crewe midfielder Lunt signs new one-year contract - 81 words specifically about the page subject before moving onto other things. We learn he is Kenny Lunt's nephew, and he signed a contract. It's not SIGCOV in my view, but even if it is, this is still reporting the signing of a contract. That is still a primary source as there is no synthesis of sources here. It will have come off the back of a club announcement, and is not independent of that.

So, sorry, I don't agree we have secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:24, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BBC are a secondary sources and are not classed as primary sources. Primary is close too, BBC are not close to the club or the player. However what you say is correct in view of individual sources. Again, you fail to understand the rules of GNG, when one source isn't enough you can combine multiple sources. Also again, I said my vote is a weak keep as he is an active player where as more sources can be added as he progresses through his career. Govvy (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
??? 1. Of course BBC can be a primary source, such as for match reports or other breaking news. 2. Primariness has nothing whatsoever to do with "closeness to the club", you seem to be confusing that with independence. 3. GNG says nothing about combining non-SIGCOV sources, that's something only found in BASIC. JoelleJay (talk) 18:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A BBC match report is not a primary source. However, more importantly, it is also not SIGCOV. Giant Snowman 20:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's moot, but... if someone watches a match and writes a report of the match, how is that not a primary eyewitness account of the match? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A 'primary source' refers to "accounts written by people who are directly involved" (i.e. in soccer we usually class that as the player's club or similar) - not an independent journalist writing a report. Giant Snowman 18:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well I see where you are coming from, but that's not really a sufficient summary of WP:PRIMARY. The closest we come to that is in note d, but note d doesn't just say participants. For instance, it also says, A primary source is a first-hand account of an event. Eyewitness accounts are always primary for the event they describe. To be secondary, sources must be synthesising primary sources. The word "secondary" refers to this fact that secondary sources are synthesised from the analysis of primary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PRIMARY is not limited to non-independent sources. They reflect the individual viewpoint of a participant or observer. A recap of a match by a journalist who observed that match is primary. JoelleJay (talk) 17:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment with Govvy's input already here, I'm not going to G5 it, but dropping Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EnglishDude98 if helpful to others. Star Mississippi 12:48, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per discussion above, I don't see any secondary sources in this article. Match reporting is all primary, as are result tables. Interviews are not independent and primary per WP:IV. News reporting is primary without any secondary synthesis per WP:PRIMARY (note d) and see WP:PRIMARYNEWS. We need multiple independent reliable secondary sources with significant coverage. We don't have any. And WP:SPORTCRIT imposes an absolute minimum requirement that we must have one. Created by a block evading user, there is no reason to keep this. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Number of professional appearances in 2025 should merit coverage if notable - and note that this was likely created by a sock. Giant Snowman 18:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed as being created by a sock and therefore eligible for speedy deletion. Giant Snowman 20:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question GiantSnowman Not doing a WP:BEFORE today? How much do you want on the snip bits? [32], [33], [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39]. Plus the stuff on the article already. Btw, there are interviews by the clubs, but those are primary, I could add about another 50 citations for him on match reports and comments about him. It goes on really, I honestly don't understand why people are so adamant about deleting a footballer who has multiple independent sources of a paragraph here and there, a sentence here and there. It's as if no one gives a shit about WP:BASIC anymore. That's what, 10 minutes, 15 minutes of looking! I wonder what someone will find with a few hours to burn. Anyway I am going to go make some dinner now! Govvy (talk) 18:39, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did a Google search - nothing you have linked to is anywhere near SIGCOV. Giant Snowman 20:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. None of the identified sources provide the required IRS SIGCOV. Primary match reports, routine transactional announcements, interviews etc. do not count. JoelleJay (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Young footballer who never played at higher levels. The secondary sources provided are transfer announcements and brief mentions in match reports. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 05:20, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete though I do think we are very close to notability here - just need one more article on him. SportingFlyer T·C 15:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samson Kpenosen

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Nigerian player who has only played for minor Vietnamese football teams. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I don't think they're minor. Do you really think so? They were top league clubs, and he was also among the top scorers of 2015. Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen that they were teams from the lower divisions. Still, there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. Arguments about level of play largely irrelevant. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Eric Barnes (soccer)

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The subject only played collegiate soccer and had a non-notable collegiate soccer coaching career. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I found [[40]] and [[41]] which are each feature stories providing significant coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 19:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Let'srun. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The Buffalo News reports show in-depth coverage about him. There are almost never any third-party sources about American minor league football/soccer players, and this is not the case here. Svartner (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Illinois ODP

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Creator seriously removing speedy deletion tags on article created by themselves, Article generally looks promotional, fails WP:GNG fails to have significant coverage, not properly writings, lacks inline citations. Allblessed (talk) 20:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This program is not a promotional piece or a non-notable subject. It is a state affiliate of U.S. Youth Soccer and has produced multiple players who went on to compete at the professional and international level—including Olympic medalists like Casey Krueger. The article is being actively revised to remove any non-neutral language and to include coverage from independent and reliable sources.

If you feel parts of the article were too close to promotional or lacked sufficient citations, that’s a fair concern—but it’s something that can be improved through editing rather than deletion. Milicz (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ and keep on improving. Nominator is right that the article could be improved, so I have tagged the article accordingly with the issues they have identified (more and better references needed, needs to be revised to be more neutral in tone, likely contains original research). I have also added {{citation needed}} tags throughout, and added a reference and confirmed that there is other significant coverage that could be added (via ProQuest). In any case, the reasons given essentially amount to an argument to delete because cleanup is required, and this is invalid per WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. (Even though the desire for cleanup is appreciated.) Furthermore, there is no mention of any WP:BEFORE search. Strongly advise nominator to gain more experience in reading Wikipedia guidelines and editing in their areas of competence before nominating more articles for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What do you see [42] there is likely a possible COI, tho I’m still checking, my issue is why the creator keeps removing tags, moving articles back to mainspace, creator lacks experience and temperament. Also can you show me how that article meets WP:SIGCOV? Allblessed (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
your comment that I “lack experience and temperament” falls afoul of Wikipedia’s civility and personal-attack policies. Per WP:CIVIL (“avoid personal attacks”) and WP:AGF (“assume good faith”), we’re encouraged to critique content, not contributors. I’ve been an editor for over 21 years and remain committed to improving this article. If you have concerns about neutrality, sourcing, or structure, please point to specific passages or sources so we can address them together. Milicz (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milicz Point taken. It is kind of you to defend the nominator and to ask for specific feedback. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:49, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to address tone, and have added citations or removed claims I could not find proper citations for. Added ProQuest citations. Thank you for your suggestions Milicz (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. First of all, it is very clear to me that neither of the tagged criteria for speedy deletion (A7 and G11) apply. A before search, which appears to have not been performed by the nominator, shows there is at least some indication of significance. G11 requires the article to be exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles (emphasis included in policy). Cleanup is required but not to the point that the article is not salvageable. Much of the content is unsourced and the references there are not great. Most are either not independent or are player profiles with one-line mentions of the subject program. Moving to draftspace will allow any interested user to build the article up to encyclopedic standards before moving it back into mainspace. Frank Anchor 13:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - poorly sourced, promotional article written by SPA - they've also written similar topic Illinois Youth Soccer Association. Giant Snowman 10:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suggesting that my article must be self-promotional because “someone involved in ODP” wrote it is an ad hominem circumstantial (genetic) fallacy: it rejects the content based solely on an assumed motive or origin rather than evaluating the article’s actual sourcing and neutrality. I have zero involvement in that organization and am still researching it.

For context, this article emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” You’ll see that the article:

Notes ODP’s changing reputation, including that it has lost some of its earlier luster rather than presenting it as the undisputed pinnacle of development programs.

Cites independent coverage—local newspaper articles, US Youth Soccer annual reports, and academic analyses—rather than relying on press releases or self-published claims.

Maintains a neutral tone, focusing on verifiable facts about the program’s history, selection process, and outcomes.

If there are specific passages you feel remain promotional or poorly sourced, I’m happy to rewrite them or add better citations. I’m committed to meeting WP:NEUTRAL and WP:RS standards, so please let me know any additional reliable sources I should include. Milicz (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program. This fails notability for organizations. There is simply not enough significant coverage in reliable sources to warrant an individual article for this org. Citing affiliated clubs is not independent. I mean Reddit is referenced despite our policy on Reddit. Two incidental mentions in the Chicago Tribune and sporadic mentions in the context of high school player plays soccer in regional newspapers does not cut it. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The citation to Reddit was for the "Criticisms and challenges portion" and is not used to support any of the facts or notability. Milicz (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. Please read WP:RSREDDIT. You should not be using it as a citation at all.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Articles about things you like are not necessarily good things. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who says I like Illinois ODP? Article itself emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” As you can see (if you read it), that's an open question. Milicz (talk) 15:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I have started linking to that essay in AfDs because there is a subset of editors who think a Wikipedia article is a badge of honor and spend a lot of time trying to keep articles that should not exist. I could just as easily assume you hated ODP and wanted to create an attack page for this organization or that you are just very, very into youth soccer.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Striking my earlier !vote. Leaning either draftify or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program; this article absolutely cannot be kept as is. Milicz You can't cite other Wikipedia articles. See WP:CIRCULAR. You need to remove all those citations you've added to other Wikipedia articles (I removed one for you and then stopped) and replace them with other reliable sources (see WP:RS). Cielquiparle (talk) 04:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No Wikipedia citations are used to support any of the points, they're only used to link to the individuals or orgs, I will remove them and simply use the appropriate tags [[ ]] Milicz (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK @Milicz...starting to look a bit better. Do you think you could work out a way to explain that Illinois ODP also fields competitive girl's soccer teams in inter-state competitions in the lead paragraph? I think that is not really coming through unless you read further down. (If you only say "program" it sounds like a purely administrative thing which makes people want to delete it.) Cielquiparle (talk) 05:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:The Tags on the article are too alarming, check creators contributions, there are high similarities on articles created, now for example the article title is "Illinois ODP" but the first text is "Illinois Girls Olympic Development Program", It seams to have a slight deviation from the article title to be honest. I was to suggest that instead of the creator creating similar pages with different Page names, It would have been wise to just create one or two and provide good source, good writing, formatting skills and make the writing clearer to anyone who comes across the article to understand.

Allblessed (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it's not uncommon at all for the article title to be short (see WP:CONCISE) versus the first bolded reference to the subject to be long (as examples, see Barack Obama or George H. W. Bush). Please also have a read of WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. You are right to want good sources and good writing, but AfD should not be your first port of call in addressing cleanup issues. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see the contributions of the user? Did you see the consistency in removing CSD tags and moving drafts back to mainspace? Allblessed (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Allblessed it doesn’t help to challenge my removal of the CSD tags when those tags were added without proper justification. Wikipedia’s guidelines need to be applied consistently—both when adding and removing tags. Rules aren’t one-way streets. Rather than creating disputes, which you have done on my article), it would be more productive to collaborate on refining and improving the article itself. Milicz (talk) 15:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Milicz There is a proper and well outlined procedure for handling allegedly improper CSD tags, and it isn't removing them yourself. When you create an article, you are connected to it more than any other contributor, whether one likes it or not. We know you support the existence of the article, you created it, and it is a conflict of interest to remove these types of tags from something you created, no matter how repetitive or improper they may seem. When you are closely connected to a subject, as it appears you are (whether you're affiliated with them, whether you are working for them, whether you just really like youth soccer in the Land of Lincoln; I don't care, it's not relevant, what is relevant is the level to which you obviously care about this), it is imperative that you operate above reproach, so as to not even give the impression that you may be acting in a biased manner. You are held to a higher standard of behavior because you created the page. You are inherently unable to view any of this completely objectively, and that goes for any author, who creates any page.

Regarding the actions of other editors, it's important to remember that each situation is evaluated independently. While it can be frustrating if you perceive another editor as not following guidelines, their actions don't justify a similar response. Our focus should always be on adhering to the established procedures for every situation. Further, they did not create a dispute, you created a dispute when you removed a CSD tag from a page you created multiple times. (Almost) any repeated editing back and forth as was clearly done here is a violation of Wikipedia:Edit warring. Wikipedia is a community of editors working to help bring knowledge to the world. The task we have is infinite. We are guardians of and contributors to one of the last stanchions of truly free knowledge, the responsibility is awesome, and it must be treated as such. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Foxtrot620 I completely agree with you. Two wrongs don't make a right, but no one was harmed here and you can all still delete the article. Milicz (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply @Cielquiparle I went ahead and made your suggested change and I think it works better. Now that I’ve reviewed the title, the article should be split into two sections—one for the girls’ program and one for the boys’. I’ll research the boys’ side before drafting that section. Milicz (talk) 14:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Delete: Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization simply does not meet the bar of notability or importance. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Strong Keep Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization clearly meets the bar of notability and importance. It'd be great if the delete crowd could backup the lack of notability argument. Do you not like women's soccer? Do you not think it's clear this org developed players that went on to represent the USA? Is the fact that those notable players advertise that they were in this program not an indicator that those individuals thought it was notable that they took part in it? It's referenced in plenty of material, but not the material you want? 20+ citations is not enough but other articles with a "need citations" tag can stick around for decades? I'm having trouble with the merits of the delete crowd. Easy call on this one for me. 4025MG (talk) 04:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment above !vote is by a confirmed sockpuppetry of Milicz and has been blocked. RedPatch (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. RedPatch (talk) 11:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nicole Giannino

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage (either for her acting career or her ice hockey career) in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 23:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Agree: The CWHL fails Wikipedia:NHOCKEY/LA, and her career also fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Combined with the lack of media attention, I regrettably agree that this article should face deletion. That being said, there is something to be said about the inherent notability of someone who has consistently achieved at a high level, even when such achievement doesn't get media attention. Doesn't change my vote, but she is obviously extremely talented, and I dislike the deletion of the article because there isn't sufficient coverage. Unfortunately, we are at the whim of what media decides to cover, and what people decide to care about, and in this case, Women's professional hockey and inline skating is not it. Foxtrot620 (talk) 01:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Two of the sources in the article, in Pulse magazine [43] and Telegram & Gazette [44], have sigcov of her. They do include interviews with her, but also have info about her career and her life outside hockey (studying biology and speech language pathology, which could be added to this article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abubakar Nurmagomedov

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He does not fulfill WP:MMANOT, having been #59 at highest in the Fight Matrix rankings and not having very notable wins. There is independent coverage for his involvement in the McGregor/Nurmagomedov altercation at UFC 229 but in my opinion it falls under WP:1E. Ticelon (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: The controversy section has articles about the person, rather than just match reports. ESPN also has this about him [45]. Oaktree b (talk) 15:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The controversy section seems to me to be WP:BLP1E while the ESPN article is basically an interview with him, along with some comments from the president of the organization he was then fighting for (definitely not independent). I'm leaning towards delete but I'd like to see if any other sources exist. Papaursa (talk) 16:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per nom does not meet MMA guidelines #59 at highest rank. The controversy is WP:BLP1E) and is mostly about Khabib, as he played a minor role in it. Lekkha Moun (talk) 20:51, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Luiz Fernando Uva

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I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV about him. Svartner (talk) 17:47, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unable to find any secondary coverage, only database entries ([46], [47]). Doubt there would be anything from WP:OFFLINE, either; he competed in a junior racing series for two seasons, only had one win, and the seasons that he competed during don't even have their own articles. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 13:08, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2026 Formula 2 Championship

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Zero in-depth independent sourcing currently. And Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:12, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - article currently references six sources, of which three are directly about the 2026 season, one talks about the timespan of 2024-2027 and therefore also mentions the 2026 season and two talk about the championship in general. Hmnphl (talk) 18:30, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
pinging Jestal50 (talk · contribs), Thfeeder (talk · contribs) and BryOn2205U (talk · contribs) as they have all been active on the 2025 article so they might also have a say on this. Hmnphl (talk) 18:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:TOOSOON. The best source is the schedule announcement coverage, everything else is primary sourcing that is not about the 2026 season specifically (even if it is technically about it, not sigcov) Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:08, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment to closer - Keep !voter above blatantly canvassed 3 editors. Nice.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — I think it's too soon for this page to exist. Except for the calendar there is nothing else 100% confirmed about next year's season. No drivers announced yet, and teams or the points system for example are not confirmed to be the same as this year as indicated on the 2026 article. So there's no point in keeping a page, which is basically empty. User:BryOn2205 (talk) 09:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: I agree that the page was published too soon, but there’s no need to delete the existing article when the same exact content (such as the calendar or entry list table) is going to have to be added once again when drivers start to get announced. Full deletion is unnecessary. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 10:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify WP:TOOSOON, but given the importance of the series and how previous seasons have reached notability more sources will be published and the 2026 season will (almost) certainly meet notability criteria.Giuliotf (talk) 14:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify within the next 6 months, there likely will be enough coverage for this article to exist then. However, that coverage does not currently exist. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify, it is WP:TOOSOON as well. Put this in the draftspace for now. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:59, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Cardiff Cobras

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Non-notable amateur rugby league club. Fails WP:GNG. J Mo 101 (talk) 18:55, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The first nomination in 2010 appears to have been about a British university sports team, and thus a different subject than the current article on an Australian rugby league club. (No opinion in any event.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:08, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable RL player. Fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. J Mo 101 (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non notable career, minimal sourcing. Mn1548 (talk) 08:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Past Sharks squads

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Fails WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. We don't keep lists like this. Readers who may be interested in previous players can see historic players at List of Sharks (rugby union) players, transfer lists for URC and Super Rugby competitions and season pages. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not opposed to merging this with the List of Sharks (rugby union) players, subject to resolution of the distinction of Currie Cup vs URC players, as if those players - who meet notability requirements - are excluded then List of Sharks (rugby union) players is incomplete. Whybeetoo (talk) 11:04, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This would be dependent on the outcome of the discussion on the WikiProject. I'd be opposed to full squad boxes but if we can find information on Currie Cup players (which I found incredibly difficult in creating this list) then can be added in another section if consensus reached. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kateryna Polunina

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This article has been marked as requiring additional citations for verification since June 2021 and still only has one PDF draw sheet as a source. The person themselves had a very minor tennis career reaching world 518 in singles and world 510 in doubles at their peak and winning one extremely low level ITF doubles title. As such she fails GNG. On top of that I can find no SIGCOV for her and I would presume if there was any it would have been found and added in the four years since the needs additional citations tag was added to the page. The only thing I could find was a short bio for someone with the same name on a meet the coaches type page at a Chinese tennis academy but that person has a different date of birth to that which is listed on the Wikipedia page. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 16:09, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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To be fair, the ukranian version of this article is the same one, but in ukranian, so i think that there is not much we can do to make it a better article. Haddad Maia fan (talk) 13:10, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tennis West State League

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Mentions, Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Was moved from AfC after being rejected twice, without improvement. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Wrestling

Catherine Power

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No notable independent wrestler. Worked mainly on independent level. Sources are WP:ROUTINE results of events, no in-deep coverage about her. A search shows only more ROUTINE events. [48] HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ : The Slam Sports article is fine (Canoe was a news source at the time), the Cape Breton article below it is rather local. I'd count those as maybe 1.5 sources. I tried to find more, no sourcing that I can find. With at least one more RS, I'd probably give this a weak keep. Just not enough at this time for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes GNG. In addition to the two sources noted above by Oaktree, here is another from the Windsor Star ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:51, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep The second source above from the Windsor Star shows notability. Covered in three different media from across Canada. Oaktree b (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ana Rocha

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No notable independent wrestler. Just worked on independent promotions. No in-deep sources about her, just WP:ROUTINE results of events. . [49] [50] Quick search shows 0 results HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Did you see the news sources listed in the prior AfD from 2007? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Angle

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unnotable wrestler, only fame comes because of his brother Kurt Angle, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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merge into Kurt Angle, parts of his personal life such as his involvement in a steroid ring have received some news coverage, which is worth mentioning. These news articles do primarily refer to him as "Kurt Angle's brother", so Kurt Angle is probably the best place for it. beepboopbwaph (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes GNG. [51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58][59][60][61][62][63][64][65] I also suspect there is an article about him in the March 2004 edition of The Wrestler (listed at List of professional wrestling magazines) "March 2004: McMahon vs. McWoman: How Vince vs. Stephanie Nearly Ruined WWE! Also: Flair & Dusty, Eric Angle, Jeff Jarrett, Shannon Moore, what's ahead in '04." The title of that issue is listed here ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those are all either one paragraph blurbs, or the fact he's Kurt Angle's brother. As noted here, "having a famous relative is not, in and of itself, sufficient to justify an independent article", and he does not pass GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Appeared on WWE national television on numerous occasions and a significant amount of coverage noted above. KaisaL (talk) 18:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quick question, did he ever appear on WWE national television without his brother? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:46, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isidor Bieri

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Subject fails to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 12:09, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Here's a Swiss newspaper archive of the person's name [66], most are in German which I can't understand. The few French ones there mention an electrician from Lucerne, not sure if it's this person or not. Oaktree b (talk) 15:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't see anything about this person, no News or GScholar, Jstor or GBooks articles/publications. Delete unless we can find something at length about the athlete. If someone wants to look through the German newspapers I linked above, please do so. Oaktree b (talk) 15:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Switzerland at the 1928 Summer Olympics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 17:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Switzerland at the 1928 Summer Olympics – As WP:ATD. Luis7M (talk) 18:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. I've gone through the newspaper archive results, there's no sigcov. The articles confirm that he went to the Olympics, and also that he was elected to the "honor guard" (I'm guessing this is like a Hall of Fame) of the Innerschweizer Schwingerverband and won a national championship in Greco-Roman wrestling in 1929. But there's nothing more than passing mentions and competition results. Toadspike [Talk] 08:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Wrestling at the 1928 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman featherweight: He's not mentioned at Switzerland at the 1928 Summer Olympics or Wrestling at the 1928 Summer Olympics. If someone expands the section at Switzerland at the 1928 Summer Olympics#Wrestling, then it would make more sense to redirect there. However, in its current state, I don't think it makes sense. Nobody (talk) 14:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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