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[edit]- Surjasikha Das (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify. After conducting a thorough BEFORE search, I was able to find reliable, secondary and independent references to the subject which includes trivial information or routine coverage that doesn't meet the threshold criteria for general notability guidelines or demonstrate significant coverage. The article was created on 21st July 2025, which appears to be a fairly new. She has had some supporting roles in notable movie and TV shows i.e Maa (2025 film) and Bade Achhe Lagte Hain 3 respectively. So, as per alternatives to deletion draftify will be applied here for further improvement. Fade258 (talk) 14:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Jaya Thakur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject is a model and beauty pageant titleholder (Miss Himalaya 2023), but the coverage available is mostly limited to routine announcements, brandwire/sponsored content, and press release-style pieces. There is a lack of significant, in-depth coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources as required by WP:GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Poor to unreliable sources, not a single source has a credible byline. All the contests/titles/awards mentioned are non-notable. Hence failing GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 08:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Cannnot find any source which can be called a WP:RS. The subject clearly fails notability guidelines. Taabii (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sarjin Kumar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is little coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources under the name “Sarjin Kumar.” Most info comes from social media or entertainment sites, which doesn’t sufficiently establish encyclopedic significance. The BO77! (talk) 19:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Hi @The BO77! I think the page i have created needs more citation and can be improved. But placing a deletion tag maybe avoided and you can ask for improvement. Thanks! Gooi-007 (talk) 19:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okay! @Gooi-007 but don’t need to remove the deletion tag yourself an admin will close the discussion as “Withdrawn” and remove the tag once processed.The BO77! (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Withdrawn – I now believe this article may be improved. Thanks. The BO77! (talk) 20:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your consideration @The BO77! Gooi-007 (talk) 20:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note to Closer. Though nominator has withdrawn the AFD nomination, I would prefer this AFD review to continue. My reason behind this is, the page was created by an editor, 15 days old, who moved the draft to mainspace without letting it go through AFC review. I reviewed the page after looking at this AFD and found the subject to fail WP:GNG. The sources are poor to unreliable. Source Analysis.
- Source 1 is unreliable and very likely you will invite malware by clicking on this page.
- Source 2 by TOI has passing mention.
- Source 3 is unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES.
- Source 4 is unreliable personal site/blog.
- Source 5 is about YouTuber dressed as a woman.
- Source 6 is just passing mention.
- Source 7 and 8 are also passing mention.
- Source 9 is unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES. RangersRus (talk) 23:38, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Per my analysis above. RangersRus (talk) 23:40, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: My source analysis given below
No. | Source | Type | Independent | Reliable | Significant Coverage | Notes |
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1 | Filmibeat – "Who is Sarjin Kumar?" | Entertainment listing | ✅ Yes | ❌ No | ❌ No | Low-quality site per WP:ALMGS; routine coverage; no depth. |
2 | ABP Nadu (Tamil) | Regional news | ✅ Yes | ❌ No (Brandwire-tier) | ❌ No | Trivial mention of entry to a reality show; no biographical depth. |
3 | Mirchi9 (hypothetical) | Entertainment blog | ✅ Yes | ❌ No | ❌ No | Unverified; generally unreliable for establishing notability. |
4 | Social media mentions (Instagram, YouTube) | Self-published | ❌ No | ❌ No | ❌ No | Fails WP:RS and WP:SELFPUB; unusable for notability. |
5 | TV appearance on *Cooku with Comali 6* | Primary source (TV show) | ❌ No | ❌ No | ❌ No | Being part of a TV show cast is not sufficient for notability without secondary coverage. |
All sources fail to provide the in-depth, independent, and reliable coverage required under WP:GNG.Thilsebatti (talk) 03:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Clearly fails WP:NACTOR even WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 09:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I concur with other !voters here, that although the AFD nom was withdrawn by the nominator, there is no indication that this person meets notability criteria per WP:GNG, nor are a notable photographer, thus failing to meet WP:NARTIST, nor is there evidence that there is the kind of significant coverage in fully independent reliable sources covering his acting career to meet WP:NACTOR. Deleting it at this time would save community time, because it would just be renominated if the withdrawal was put into effect. Netherzone (talk) 15:16, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yong Yea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed redirect with no improvement, current sourcing consists of unreliable sources and simple mentions. Zero in-depth references from independent, reliable sources. Prolific, but Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: for the record, the redirect contesting was not merely a revert, but was the result of an RfD. I have no opinion or comment on the article itself, but this likely does suggest that redirecting is not an alternative to deletion here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. WP:NACTOR is a quite permissive standard; once an actor appears in enough notable works, we generally have an article on them even if we don't have tons of non-primary sources on their biography. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/06/youtuber-yong-yea-is-the-new-english-voice-of-kazuma-kiryu is a source directly on him that is not just a passing mention. This kind of article is always going to be a bit of a stub and a bit of a sourced list of works they're in, but that's generally accepted and fine for borderline-notable actors. (Canvassing disclaimer: This contested redirect was brought to my attention by another Wikipedian, but my opinion is my own.) SnowFire (talk) 19:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Meets WP:GNG, there are more sources available in Spanish too:[1][2][3][4]. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
→===V. Senthil Kumar===
- V. Senthil Kumar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most coverage is company-focused, not about him individually. There are no reliable, independent biographical profiles with in-depth coverage. The article relies on press releases, event coverage, and primary sources affiliated with Qube Cinema. While his AMPAS membership is a notable recognition, it is not supported by independent, in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I agree with the nominator. Most of the articles are about the company rather than the person, and even those are not from reliable sources. Therefore, this fails WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 10:23, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep — Passes both WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Multiple independent, reliable sources offer significant biographical coverage, not mere routine company mentions:
- D. Govardan, “They changed the way we watch movies”, The Times of India, 21 Nov 2022 – in‑depth career profile tracing Kumar’s innovations from Media Artists (1986) through Qube Wire (2018).
- M. Suganth, “Chennai‑based movie tech guru Senthil Kumar gets Academy invite”, The Times of India, 1 Jul 2020 – coverage of his AMPAS induction.
- Sowmya Rajendran, “Chennai Qube Cinemas’ Senthil Kumar speaks on being invited to be Academy member”, The News Minute, 1 Jul 2020 – independent interview.
- Shobha Warrier, “Indian entrepreneurs have 100 times more opportunities today”, Rediff, 25 Nov 2013 – detailed entrepreneurial retrospective.
- “Surprised, thrilled: Qube Cinemas co‑founder on Oscars Academy invitation”, The Week, 4 Jul 2020 – third‑party profile following AMPAS honour.
- Special Achievement Award (IMAX Big Cine Expo, 2018)* – reported by Medianews4u, 29 Aug 2018. [oai_citation:0‡MediaNews4U](https://www.medianews4u.com/big-cine-expo-successfully-concludes-its-third-edition/)
- Distinguished Alumni Award (NIT Tiruchirappalli, 2023)* – covered by The Times of India, 13 Dec 2023. [oai_citation:1‡The Times of India](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/nit-t-distinguished-alumni-awards-and-young-achiever-awards/articleshow/105948111.cms)
- These articles and award reports amply satisfy the “significant coverage” requirement of WP:GNG, while the AMPAS membership, IMAX Special Achievement Award, and NIT‑T Distinguished Alumni Award are all selective honours that meet WP-NBIO §1/§3/§8. Any COI or tone issues can be fixed through normal editing; they are not grounds for deletion. — SanjayMadhavan (talk) 07:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree. The sources cited are either brief event-based mentions, interviews (primary), or trade/press-release style writeups. There is no in-depth, independent, reliably sourced biographical coverage of Senthil Kumar as required by WP:GNG. The AMPAS membership, IMAX Special Achievement Award, and NIT-T Distinguished Alumni Award are indeed selective recognitions. However, WP:NBIO requires that such awards be covered in-depth by reliable independent sources, which is lacking here. At present, the subject fails both WP:GNG and WP:NBIO due to absence of sustained, independent biographical coverage in reliable secondary sources. Most sources are limited to brief announcements or primary interviews. Thilsebatti (talk) 18:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: The source analysis is as follows.
No. | Source | Publication | Type | Reliable? | Independent? | Substantial Coverage? | Notes |
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1 | [‘Indian films are known for stories’: V Senthil Kumar](https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/indian-films-are-known-for-stories-v-senthil-kumar-9162105/) | Indian Express | Interview | ✅🟩 | ❌ | ❌ | Primary source. Reliable but not independent. Very limited depth. |
2 | [Qube's Senthil Kumar joins Oscars Academy](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/qubes-senthil-kumar-joins-oscars-academy/articleshow/101615481.cms) | Times of India | News article | ✅🟩 | ✅ | ❌ | Reliable and independent, but only event-based coverage. |
3 | [SMPTE Fellow recognition](https://www.indiantelevision.com/technology/software/v-senthil-kumar-elected-as-smpte-fellow-240123) | Indiantelevision.com | Trade article | ✅🟨 | ✅ | ❌ | Trade-style source. Coverage is announcement-based. |
4 | [Exchange4Media – SMPTE fellow](https://www.exchange4media.com/media-tv-news/v-senthil-kumar-of-qube-cinema-elected-as-smpte-fellow-129698.html) | Exchange4Media | Trade article | ✅🟨 | ✅ | ❌ | Trade media. Lacks biographical depth. |
5 | [India Today – Oscars invite](https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/oscars-2023-sid-sriram-monika-shergill-senthil-kumar-are-now-part-of-oscars-academy-2403602-2023-07-10) | India Today | News article | ✅🟩 | ✅ | ❌ | Reliable and independent. But only brief mention among others. |
6 | [Behindwoods – Oscar invite](https://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-news-16/oscars-2023-invitation-senthil-kumar-qube-cinema.html) | Behindwoods | Entertainment site | ❌🟥 | ❌ | ❌ | Fails WP:RS. Promotional tone. Not usable. |
7 | [BusinessWorld – SMPTE fellow](https://www.businessworld.in/article/V-Senthil-Kumar-Elected-As-SMPTE-Fellow/24-01-2024-503226/) | BusinessWorld | Business press | ✅🟨 | ✅ | ❌ | Possibly based on press release. Lacks depth. |
8 | YourStory (previously cited) | YourStory | Startup site | ❌🟥 | ❌ | ❌ | Fails RS criteria. Avoided due to blacklisting. |
Clearly fails GNG and NPROFESSOR. Thilsebatti (talk) 18:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Rishabh Kashyap (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable singer, fails wp:NMUSIC, No SIGCOV, just routine coverage. Created by a sock. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: While the article does say he
is an Indian actor and singer
, the article (such as it is) is more about his acting career and does not bring up his singing any further, so NACTOR would be more relevant here. I have no opinion or comment beyond that, though. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Meghan Andrews (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely unsourced, horrifically written (seems AI-ish) and seems like a COI violation. 750h+ 13:39, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, even if she were to meet NBIO this is so badly written and overly promotional we'd be as well starting over per WP:TNT. CoconutOctopus talk 15:02, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete as doesn't meet WP:NBASIC. I can find multiple sources that mention Andrews, mostly in reviews of stage productions, but not a single source that provides the tiniest bit of biographical content. Schazjmd (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
WP:RUNOFTHEMILL fitness trainer with no significant achievements and no WP:SIGCOV. Sources are mostly, passing mentions, routine coverage, interviews and gossips around her notable relatives. The article was created by a blocked SPA. Zuck28 (talk) 12:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Strong keep: As I stated in the previous nomination, the subject clearly meets the requirements of WP:GNG by receiving significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. Notable examples include a detailed articles in DNA (300+ words), an article by Time of India (350+ words), Business Standard, NDTV, Hindustan Times, and MidDay, among others. These are independent, reliable secondary sources that provide substantial detail about her career, publications, and public influence, not mere name-drops or trivial mentions. As WP:GNG states:
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
In this case, multiple substantial articles from mainstream publications combine to satisfy the notability criteria. Therefore, the subject meets both WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. GSS 💬 14:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)- I can’t see your comment on the previous nomination. Did you participate in the last AFD?
- This DNA article you mentioned is non-bylined promotional article to advertise her personal training service.
- The Times of India article is also clearly advertorial piece with a disclaimer "Disclaimer: This article was produced on behalf of Life Health Foods by Times Internet’s Spotlight team."
- Business standard article is a book review without the name of the reviewer, clear promotion.
- NDTV article is more focused on the Book and Salman Khan, not the subject of the article.
- The Hindustan Times article is about the opinions of multiple people, and she got trivial coverage, fails Wp:SIGCOV.
- midday article is just a photo gallery, without any critical assessment of her career.
- This proves the article fails wp:GNG and Wp:SIGCOV both. Zuck28 (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; Economic Times, India Today, HT, Indian Express, HT. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under WP:GNG and provide further opportunity to expand the article. GSS 💬 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would add that the Salman Khan reference is not a counter argument but perhaps the opposite, as it would ultimately demonstrate her importance as celebrities' fitness/well-being coach (as claimed), and thus the importance of keeping the article. Metamentalist (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Metamentalist, Almost every celebrity is associated with some fitness/ wellness coach, according to your understanding does that make all of those coaches notable? Just because they’re associated with celebrities? See Wp:NOTINHERITED. Zuck28 (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- She has been associated with more than one, and has produced work in different media (books and DVDs) on the matter, she's not the "average" wellness coach. Metamentalist (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Metamentalist, Almost every celebrity is associated with some fitness/ wellness coach, according to your understanding does that make all of those coaches notable? Just because they’re associated with celebrities? See Wp:NOTINHERITED. Zuck28 (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would add that the Salman Khan reference is not a counter argument but perhaps the opposite, as it would ultimately demonstrate her importance as celebrities' fitness/well-being coach (as claimed), and thus the importance of keeping the article. Metamentalist (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; Economic Times, India Today, HT, Indian Express, HT. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under WP:GNG and provide further opportunity to expand the article. GSS 💬 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- List of Bulgarian film directors (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:NLIST. A before did not return any reliable and independent sources. Otr500 (talk) 07:00, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Allows a good and dynamic overview of a notable topic (with dates, which the category does not allow). WP:NLIST allows lists that have an informational/navigational purpose, but, regardless, the topic was also covered as a set in various books including Cinemas in transition in Central and Eastern Europe after 1989 (passim) or, to a lesser extent, The most important art : Soviet and Eastern European film after 1945,for example. Can be improved.It could also be merged into Cinema of Bulgaria but as the navbox shows this is a pretty standard list and deletion does not seem necessary.- Eva Ux 23:17, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- David Dillehunt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Poorly sourced article, which is also filled with promotional clutter and unnecessary external links. A WP:BEFORE shows that the subject is somewhat notable, but coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NDIRECTOR. CycloneYoris talk! 22:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Hello, CycloneYoris. I am the subject of this article and I disagree that notability fails Wikipedia standards in that regard. I am aware that this article was created nearly 20 years ago. It appears that the citation quality is lacking, but the projects themselves rise to the national and international level which is required in those standards. I would propose that these poor quality citations be corrected instead of article deletion. 64.96.70.108 (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- For this article to be kept - you can assist by providing links to where you or your works have achieved WP:SECONDARY coverage. This may include local/regional/national press coverage or critical reviews. ResonantDistortion 08:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for this clarification. I just overhauled the page to remove the aforementioned promotional clutter and unnecessary external links. Citations have been modified per Wiki guidelines and secondary coverage has been properly linked. Dndlive (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- For this article to be kept - you can assist by providing links to where you or your works have achieved WP:SECONDARY coverage. This may include local/regional/national press coverage or critical reviews. ResonantDistortion 08:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment: - I read the NPR review and it's brutal. The Rotten Tomatoes sources are, well, rotten tomatoes. Be careful what you ask for. As I've written before, sometimes it's only the bad reviews that prove notability, while the puff pieces are just the deprecation of media in an age of corporate budget cuts. Again, are you sure that you want notoriety? I mean, really? Bearian (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Bearian. I like your comment, it's quite funny. That piece is a brutal but honest review and I appreciate that someone with NPR took the time to assess the film. As an artist, I take the good with the bad. Notoriety remains subjective – but I value the global reach of my projects, whether viewers like them or not. 64.96.70.108 (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would propose to keep this article. The subject is notable and passes WP:BIO and WP:NDIRECTOR. The article has been cleaned up and revised to address the aforementioned issues, including WP:SECONDARY sources. Dndlive (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment: Just want to note that the user above has an undisclosed conflict of interest with the subject of this article. @Dndlive: what relationship do you have with the subject in question, and is he paying you to edit here? CycloneYoris talk! 20:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- CycloneYoris: I don't believe I have a COI with this subject. I'm a fan of his "You Can't Do That on Film" documentary, but I've voluntarily updated the page for years out of respect to the filmmaker. I'm a freelance graphic designer and I'm not receiving any compensation for these updates. I tried to create a page for his rock band as well by sourcing details from the web, but I recognize the band currently fails WP:BAND and WP:MUSICBIO. My apologies for any confusion. Dndlive (talk) 12:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Adib Sobhani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability. Sources appear to be routine coverage, and there isn't much evidence that subject warrants a standalone article. Fails: WP:GNG. Also possible WP:PE. CycloneYoris talk! 19:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The existing references in the current article do not provide significant coverage (please see WP:SIGCOV), and the first reference is entirely non-reliable. I don't think the subject passes WP:GNG in any way. Baqi:) (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Meena Menon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Can't find reliable secondary sources that are talking about this Indian voice actor. BEFORE searches turned up unreliable user-generated sources, many of which just seem to copy this Wikipedia article. This article used to have a single reference: a dead link to Sugar Mediaz's profile on her (obviously a primary source since she works there) and now has absolutely no references. Doesn't seem to satisfy GNG ApexParagon (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No sources and fails notability. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:14, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: As pe nomination. Garbage for Wikipedia. Zuck28 (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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Seems to be a WP:PROMO article about someone that does not pass the WP:GNG David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 04:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR. The article keeps getting redirected and restored. Rzvas (talk) 10:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep – Even if she fails WP:NACTOR, from the look of the references sections she meets WP:GNG. – Ike Lek (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Easy keep per Ike Lek. Plenty of SIGCOV given the number of sources with her name right there in the title. Cremastra (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The subject fails WP:NACTOR. My presumption is that this is simply a case of WP:TOOSOON. I have to respectfully disagree with the subject meeting WP:GNG. The quality of the citations on her early and personal life are less than stellar (one is just an archived photo that does not even show up on the Wayback Machine). There are also problems with potential pay-for-coverage situations in the various Indian news sources. I will also note that notability is not inherited from her family and that an article about you or someone you like is not necessarily a good thing. --Mpen320 (talk) 16:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- I do want to clarify that I had never heard of her before. I've just become addicted to participating in AfDs. I disagree with your assessment, but it is a respectable one. Ike Lek (talk) 20:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- I did not mean to imply that you made your choice on WP:IDONTLIKEIT grounds. I just include that because there is a contingent in the world that seems to think that a Wikipedia article is a badge of honor. --Mpen320 (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Yes, but the citations can be easily changed to find more reliable ones. Although I may not like Kapoor personally, she has been a "notable" figure even before her debut. And if that is the case this renders the articles of Suhana Khan, Khushi Kapoor, Ibrahim Ali Khan and Agastya Nanda eligible for deletion. 19Arham (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I do want to clarify that I had never heard of her before. I've just become addicted to participating in AfDs. I disagree with your assessment, but it is a respectable one. Ike Lek (talk) 20:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I guess she just has one release but has enough citations to be on the page. Also one of her other film will release this year too. The page is on the same line as Suhana Khan, Agastya Nanda and Ibrahim Ali Khan. They all have one release and other upcoming. If those pages can be notable, this can be too. That's all I have to say, rest upto the editors.
- Delete - Entirely fails WP:NACTOR. I would also like to see sources that establish GNG without breaching WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Shankargb (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep — she is notable actress, she meets WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR also. Behappyyar (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Deceptively claiming that the subject meets GNG and NACTOR will never work. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 02:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Not a single source has been provided to verify the false claims of the subject being notable. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 02:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Do you really thinks so that not a single reference claims the notability of subject? Behappyyar (talk) 13:06, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Source | Reliable Secondary Source? | Coverage Depth | Wikipedia Use |
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[Indulge Express](https://www.indulgexpress.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | 🟡 Moderate | ✔️ |
[The Hindu](https://www.thehindu.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | ✔️ In-depth | ✅ |
[SCMP](https://www.scmp.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | 🟡 Moderate | ✔️ |
[Hindustan Times](https://www.hindustantimes.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | 🟢 In-depth | ✅ |
[IndiaTimes](https://indiatimes.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | 🟢 In-depth | ✅ |
[Indian Express](https://indianexpress.com/...) | ✔️ Yes | 🟡 Moderate | ✔️ |
[Bollywood Hungama](https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/...) | ⚠️ Use with caution | 🟡 Moderate | ⚠️ |
- Delete - Fails WP:NACTOR. None of the sources establish notability since they all belong to WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and have issues listed there, such as having promotional tone while not having bylines and being undisclosed paid articles in general. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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No evidence of notability. Fails WP:NACTRESS. CycloneYoris talk! 09:03, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: No evidence of meeting WP:NACTRESS or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:39, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - non-notable actress. Surayeproject3 (talk) 11:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NACTRESS. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 12:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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Promotional, fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Sources in article do not show significant coverage; only one primarily focused on him is WP:IMDB (WP:BEFORE didn't turn anything up either). GoldRomean (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Lacks independent, authoritative sources that meaningfully address the actor CivicInk (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Also I think that editors should check other wikipedia lang sections CivicInk (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @CivicInk - Out of curiosity, what does this comment mean? GoldRomean (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like a promo compain in a few lang sections for person CivicInk (talk) 13:51, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @CivicInk - Out of curiosity, what does this comment mean? GoldRomean (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Also I think that editors should check other wikipedia lang sections CivicInk (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - his role in Dead to Me was fairly significant but I don't see any others so we're short of the SNG for actors. This is the only secondary source I can find that gives any meaningful info about him, and it's on romper.com. Zzz plant (talk) 23:43, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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Non notable social media influencer. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nomination. I didn't even find a single reference. The references mentioned in the article are also rubbish, they do not leads to what the headings are saying. Behappyyar (talk) 15:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - per nom and above comment. I just couldn't find a single thing really.
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Fails WP:GNG. References either do not provide WP:SIGCOV or are not WP:INDEPENDENT. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Brenda Vongova meets WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE criteria for notability. She has:
- Founded the UN Chamber Music Society, which has performed at the UN General Assembly and Carnegie Hall;
- Collaborated with international institutions such as the New York Philharmonic, UNESCO, and the Abu Dhabi Festival;
- Been profiled by reputable media sources including *Vogue*, *Newsweek*, *GRAMMY.com*, and *JNS*;
- Worked as a high-level UN civil servant in the Executive Office of the Secretary-General;
- Produced concerts and events in observance of UN-recognized days such as Holocaust Remembrance Day and World Arabic Language Day.
- Her artistic and institutional impact has been recognized independently and internationally, establishing clear WP:SIGCOV and WP:INDEP coverage. The article can be improved with more inline citations and formatting, but the subject is clearly notable. MaddieBerry (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Working as a civil servant is an office job... Newsweek is not a reliable source. The rest of the comments suggest notability, but we have no sourcing in reliable sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Brenda Vongova meets WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE criteria for notability. She has:
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- Comment in support of the nomination, here's my source assessment, which concludes that zero of the sources contribute to WP:GNG:
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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Only sources I find are from the UN. As the table above shows, the sourcing isn't acceptable. Being covered in Newsweek and PassBlue (one of which is not a RS) isn't helping. Could potentially be notable, but we need sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Oaktree, thank you for your chart. I will collect more reliable sources accordingly to make this page better. I will defined revise it. Please give me some time, don’t delete it. Thank you. MaddieBerry (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- definitely * MaddieBerry (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Oaktree, thank you for your chart. I will collect more reliable sources accordingly to make this page better. I will defined revise it. Please give me some time, don’t delete it. Thank you. MaddieBerry (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete based on the above analysis of sources, which shows that she lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The creator is a SPA solely devoted to making articles related to the UN indicative that they are involved with the UN. Many of the sources have been deprecated for years. I conducted several independent searches online and social media, although not required, and found nothing that could change my mind. I have no objection to letting this AfD be open for a few extra days. Bearian (talk) 11:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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Does not meet GNG and references provided are dead links. Uncle Bash007 (talk) 16:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Insufficient coverage to establish NACTOR or GNG. The references to non-existent webpages is also a glaring red flag. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:49, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom fails NACTOR and GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 20:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Old-AgedKid (talk) 14:17, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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Lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- keep there is coverage in the obituary here and he won the Sándor Bródy Prize which seems notable. --hroest 18:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – More than a thousand words of coverage in Hungarian here, ~850 words of coverage here, more than 200 words of coverage here and here among others. See the search results. There's an abundance of significant coverage so this meets WP:GNG. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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Lesser-known actress with insignificant and non lead roles in multiple projects. Fails Wp:NACTOR. Appears to be a case of Wp:TOOSOON. Zuck28 (talk) 12:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not enough articles for notability. 🄻🄰 14:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep She played lead roles in several web series such as Ghar Waapsi (for which she was nominated for award as best female actor), Crash Course (TV series), Namacool, Who's Your Daddy? (2020 TV series). Behappyyar (talk) 02:16, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete her lead roles are not actually main roles. She fails NACTOR. Old-AgedKid (talk) 14:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Kewal Garg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not enough Wp:SIGCOV. Only routine coverage and non-bylined PR articles are available as sources. Zuck28 (talk) 10:14, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: All of the sources are promotional articles. 🄻🄰 14:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all sources are promotional fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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All the sources are about his death. SIGCOV: Not Found, Fails NACTOR, GNG and ANYBIO. Zuck28 (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep the coverage appears to be occasioned by his death, assessing the career of someone prominent who has died, not about his death, as would be the case if someone was murdered or died in an unusual way. This kind of editorial obituary coverage actually establishes notability under GNG. Jahaza (talk) 18:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Career includes non-notable projects, that too without proper citations. Fails Wp:NACTOR. Zuck28 (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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Under WP:GNG and WP:PROF, this does not warrant a standalone article. Brent Chalem was a minor child actor with supporting roles in 1980s TV and a part in _The Monster Squad_. Aside from a 1997 LA Times obituary, there is no independent coverage, interviews, or critical analysis. Icem4k (talk) 20:54, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - @Icem4k: - how does WP:PROF apply here? Also, I'm seeing some results on newspapers.com. starship.paint (talk / cont) 10:58, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing that out, @Starship.paint. You’re absolutely correct that WP:PROF was cited in error—it doesn’t apply here my bad. I should’ve referred to WP:NACTOR alongside WP:GNG.
- After carefully reviewing the article again:
- The LA Times obituary and Ventura County Star provide some independent coverage, but the remaining sources are fan retrospectives and blogs.
- There’s no evidence of sustained, in-depth coverage or critical analysis about Brent Chalem himself beyond his one notable role in The Monster Squad.
- With that in mind, I still believe the article fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. However, I’d be open to reconsidering if there are additional substantial sources beyond obituaries and routine filmography mentions. Icem4k (talk) 11:15, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Icem4k: - thank you for correcting the error. I'm taking a crack at expanding the article and we'll see how it turns out. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:30, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Icem4k: - there's at least two in-depth articles wholly about Chalem [5] [6] and I managed to find sources expanding other parts of the article. What do you think? starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: I think there are enough articles for notability with the ones found by starship. 🄻🄰 14:46, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - seeing the above vote, I want to get my opinion in, which also addresses the nom. Is there pre-death independent WP:SIGCOV? Yes, there are two articles with him as the main subject (and interview him) [7] Is there critical analysis and assessment of impact? Yes [https://www.thepitchkc.com/wolfmans-got-nards-works-even-if-youve-never-seen-the-monster-squad/ [8] [9] It seems to be a disservice to delete all of these 600+ words and leave readers nothing to know about Chalem. starship.paint (talk / cont) 06:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with Starship, there are far more obscure people with wikipedia pages than Brent Chalem. Considering he died so young who knows he might have starred in more films Scottlinehan1999 (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Links updated. starship.paint (talk / cont) 03:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 20:05, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:GNG. The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd references in the article are reviews about the film. LKBT (talk) 12:34, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep – The subject appears to meet notability guidelines for film directors. Reliable sources from The Hindu, Film Companion, and others exist and have been added. Will continue to improve article with inline citations. Surendrankaliyaperumal (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: Moved !vote from Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Marudhu Pandiyan. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:58, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NFILMMAKER even WP:GNG, it seems like the titles of the references have been altered to mislead other editors. Baqi:) (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: This AfD will hinge on this sentence from NFILMMAKER
The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
(emphasis added). It is certain that he directed 2 movies (Chennai Ungalai Anbudan Varaverkirathu and Asuravadham) which is playing a major role in creating them, but are they significant or well-known works. I am leaning towards no and thus delete but I think this is what the focus of the discussion should be. Moritoriko (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC) - Keep – * Keep – Marudhu Pandiyan directed multiple films that have received independent coverage in national publications including *The Hindu*, *Film Companion*, *News18 Tamil*, and *BBC Tamil*. His film *Asuravadham* was discussed extensively in critical circles and review columns. This coverage satisfies WP:GNG, and directing more than one theatrically released feature supports WP:NFILMMAKER. The article has since been improved with inline citations to reflect these sources. User:Surendrankaliyaperumal (talk) 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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This article is about someone who acted in one movie and nothing else. Seems too personal of an article with barely any real information on the individual. GamerPro64 05:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I am unable to find neither information about the person nor anything that indicates they even appeared in the movie mentioned. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Nagol0929 (talk) 05:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Possibly also notable as a singer. The corresponding article in the Arabic Wikipedia has several references that could be added to this one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well the sources have been added but I'm not sure they provide enough information to show how notable the subject is. GamerPro64 03:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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Half of the sources referenced in the article are tabloid-style sources listing supposed "facts" about Mel Gibson's girlfriend. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. She has received no coverage demonstrating her own notability in WP:RS. Aŭstriano (talk) 20:14, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Passes WP:FILMMAKER since she is the screenwriter and director of Father Stu. The Film Creator (talk) 10:27, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @The Film Creator: Although I am not necessarily disagreeing with you (per below), note that the guideline article includes the caveat: "conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.". Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, while I am unconvinced that the subject has a sufficient amount of WP:SIGCOV, and some of the existing citations are of questionable quality (like the legit.ng source), i'm inclined to think she may pass WP:FILMMAKER guideline on the basis of point 3:
- "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series);"
- However, that does not mean that the subject can be given a free pass if they do not also meet WP:GNG, which I am not yet wholly convinced by. I also searched contemporary newspaper archives with little discussing her independently. Either way, I am on the fence, but leaning weak keep. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. A WP:Director pass; the film she directed was reviewed in The Guardian, LAT, Chicago Tribune and so on.- Eva Ux 10:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR. Credits are far too skimpy. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:24, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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No real notability as an actress, author or fashion designer. No significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. References are mostly tabloids, social networks or IMDb. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 00:10, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. You are right, and it is also very short. Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 00:29, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Keep.
- The article has been significantly improved to meet Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines through the inclusion of independent, reliable sources. Suzan Mutesi has received notable coverage in international and national media outlets such as Vogue,1 NY Post2 and Heart London Magazine.3 She has appeared in Australian films such as Carmen & Bolude4 and 'Ruby’s Choice,5 and has television appearance in The Challenge: Australia6 and Heartbreak High.7
- She also authored books including The Immigrant That Found Her Unapologetic Voice8 and Unapologetically Black: Afro Sisters.9 She has received several awards, including African Designer of the Year (2012),1011 and Afro-Australia Music and Movie Awards in 2014.1213
- These references demonstrate significant coverage of her career and public impact.
Tagsjunta (talk) 18:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)— Tagsjunta (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.- As an author, her books have sold poorly and are independently published. There are no reviews of them. The only sources are not independent, since they are listed as the books themselves.
- As an actress she has had small roles in minor productions. "The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" is the guideline (see WP:NACTOR).
- The New York Post, Heart London Magazine and the Daily Mail are not reliable sources (see WP:NYPOST and WP:DAILYMAIL).
- Those awards are local or have very low notability. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 00:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. However, your concerns about reliability and notability appear to overlook several points that align with WP:GNG and WP:BIO.
- 1. Reliable Sources: While you mention the NY Post, Daily Mail, and Heart London Magazine as unreliable, several independent and reliable sources remain:
- Vogue Australia (source) provided substantial coverage of her literary work and advocacy.
- The Sydney Morning Herald (source), also a reliable source, discusses her fashion influence.
- Cinema Australia (source), Film Central Magazine (source), and Sydney Arts Guide (source) provide coverage of her film roles.
- 2. Acting Notability: She has appeared in multiple notable Australian films such as Ruby's Choice, Moon Rock for Monday, and Carmen & Bolude, with Film Central Magazine covering her contributions (source). While her roles may not be leading, under WP:NACTOR, cumulative work in multiple productions can establish notability.
- 3. Awards and Recognition: She received awards such as African Designer of the Year in 2012 (source) and recognition from the Afro-Australia Music and Movie Awards (source, source). While regional, these awards have sustained coverage in Ugandan and Australian media.
- 4. Books and Authorship: While some of her books are self-published, they are covered in Vogue Australia (source), providing secondary discussion of her authorship and the cultural impact of her work.
- 5. Overall Coverage: The breadth of coverage across fashion, acting, and advocacy is sufficient to meet WP:GNG when assessed collectively. Notability does not require universal acclaim or commercial success, only significant coverage in independent, reliable sources.
- 6. Neutral Point of View: The article has been revised to follow Wikipedia’s neutral point of view, avoiding promotional or PR-style language in accordance with WP:PROMO and WP:NOTADVERTISING. The content has been rewritten to maintain an encyclopaedic tone, consistent with WP:TONE.
- Therefore, I maintain that the subject passes both WP:GNG and WP:BIO, especially when coverage across multiple domains is considered. Tagsjunta (talk) 06:21, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Is this AI? duffbeerforme (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- I took my time to write and decorate that.Not AI. Tagsjunta (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Is this AI? duffbeerforme (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- 1. Reliable Sources: While you mention the NY Post, Daily Mail, and Heart London Magazine as unreliable, several independent and reliable sources remain:
- Thank you for your reply. However, your concerns about reliability and notability appear to overlook several points that align with WP:GNG and WP:BIO.
- Delete. Of the sources listed above. Vogue is almost OK. A short intro but then the rest is softball interview. But that it. NY Post is tabloid trash based on her words. Heart London is straight PR. None of the roles are significant (last is even uncredited). Books lack independent reviews. None of the Awards are major. Wikipedia is not a promotion venue for influencers. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Here are some sourcs that supports the WP:GNG for this subject. These sources are independent, credible, reliable and editorials. NO PR.
- Tagsjunta (talk) 19:37, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- PR is not independent or reliable. So that cuts out most. Vogue I've already touched on above. SMH is almost OK but is just being interviewed about the subject of the article. That's it. Cinema Australia and Film Central Magazine are variations of the same PR that only just mention her. Monitor is PR based, driven from her winning a run of the mill award, a WP:DOGBITESMAN type thing. Voice is so over the top so obvious puffed up PR. And by anonymous "Guest Contributor". Lifestyle News is her talking about herself. Do you know that paid editing must be declared? duffbeerforme (talk) 13:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your input. However, I respectfully disagree with your assessment that all the sources cited in the article are PR or non-independent.
- Regarding the paid editing comment — I would like to clarify that I am not a paid editor, nor do I have any personal or professional relationship with the subject. I am simply a follower of Suzan Mutesi’s work and became interested in her after coming across various public sources online. I have not been paid, compensated, or engaged in any form to contribute to this article.
- All of my contributions have been made with the intent to remain neutral and within the spirit of good faith editing, as is expected on Wikipedia. I genuinely believe that Wikipedia is a collaborative platform where editors are encouraged to participate and discuss improvements based on verifiable information.
- Therefore, I respectfully ask that no assumptions be made about my motives. I am engaging here purely in good faith, with the sole aim of ensuring that the subject's coverage is fairly represented in line with WP:GNG and WP:BIO.
- Thank you.
- — Tagsjunta (talk) 18:34, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your source analysis. I'd like to add that Vogue Australia is not the same as Vogue US, Vogue France or British Vogue. Vogue Australia is published by News Corp (famous for its tabloids) under a licence from Condé Nast. By Vogue Australia's own admition they include paid press release–based interviews, photoshoots and write-ups as regular news with inadequate or no disclosure. This means Vogue Australia is not a reliable source. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your observation. Just to clarify — Vogue Australia, like other Vogue editions, provides disclaimers for sponsored content, and the cited piece was authored by an identifiable journalist, not a paid feature. Also, major outlets like The New York Times, The Guardian, and Forbes offer media kits and advertising, which is standard and doesn’t affect editorial reliability. Ultimately, reliability on Wikipedia depends on the specific article’s authorship and editorial oversight, not the outlet’s business model. Tagsjunta (talk) 06:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- PR is not independent or reliable. So that cuts out most. Vogue I've already touched on above. SMH is almost OK but is just being interviewed about the subject of the article. That's it. Cinema Australia and Film Central Magazine are variations of the same PR that only just mention her. Monitor is PR based, driven from her winning a run of the mill award, a WP:DOGBITESMAN type thing. Voice is so over the top so obvious puffed up PR. And by anonymous "Guest Contributor". Lifestyle News is her talking about herself. Do you know that paid editing must be declared? duffbeerforme (talk) 13:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak delete - only the Vogue piece is reliable and independent. The rest of the "sources" are a compendium of deprecated sources. To call the New York Post reliable ruins one's reputation for seriousness. At least four sources were literally written by the subject, and four more sources are gossip about her intimate relationships. Nowadays, we literally can't afford poorly sourced biographies of living people. Bearian (talk) 21:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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Sources are mostly PR and self-published. Not worthy of an article. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - the Forbes India listing is a made up in one day award for an up and coming but run of the mill business person, producers and managers being especially ordinary. See also WP:NOTFB. The remaining sources are also unreliable or not independent. Bearian (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: per nominator and Bearian. 🄻🄰 15:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: As I can see in the article, the subject has produced 7 movies (one unreleased) and one web series, so I believe the subject clearly meets WP:PRODUCER. Best! Baqi:) (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- The fact of having produced seven films and a web series, on its own, meets none of the criteria at WP:PRODUCER at all, let alone clearly. I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria, just that it takes more than what you said about him. Largoplazo (talk) 14:35, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Largoplazo, Thank you for your comments. If you look at point number three under Creative professionals, I believe the subject clearly meets WP:PRODUCER. That said, if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria, could you please clarify what more would be required for them to pass WP:PRODUCER? Best! Baqi:) (talk) 10:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- (1) You're treating point 3 as though it says, in its entirety, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a collective body of work." (2) Why are you asking me about "if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria" when I stated very clearly "I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria"? I wasn't commenting on whether he meets the criteria, I was pointing out that your remarks failed to show that he does. Largoplazo (talk) 11:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo: Exactly, that’s what I’m trying to understand: what more would be required for the subject to clearly meet that criterion? Baqi:) (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I can't help you further because I don't understand what part of the criterion you aren't understanding, if you read all of it, including all the parts that go beyond playing a role in co-creating a collective body of work. Largoplazo (talk) 14:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo: Exactly, that’s what I’m trying to understand: what more would be required for the subject to clearly meet that criterion? Baqi:) (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- (1) You're treating point 3 as though it says, in its entirety, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a collective body of work." (2) Why are you asking me about "if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria" when I stated very clearly "I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria"? I wasn't commenting on whether he meets the criteria, I was pointing out that your remarks failed to show that he does. Largoplazo (talk) 11:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Largoplazo, Thank you for your comments. If you look at point number three under Creative professionals, I believe the subject clearly meets WP:PRODUCER. That said, if in your view the subject still doesn't meet the criteria, could you please clarify what more would be required for them to pass WP:PRODUCER? Best! Baqi:) (talk) 10:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The fact of having produced seven films and a web series, on its own, meets none of the criteria at WP:PRODUCER at all, let alone clearly. I'm not saying he doesn't meet those criteria, just that it takes more than what you said about him. Largoplazo (talk) 14:35, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Agreeing with Baqi, the subject passes WP:NPRODUCER. If someone believes that the subject is non-notable, they need to prove how. It must very obviously pass the notability guidelines. Zuck28 (talk) 18:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's notability that needs to be demonstrated in cases of disagreement, not non-notability. We have criteria for assessing notability, not for assessing non-notability. If it's obvious that the person meets those criteria, you ought to be able to explain how. Largoplazo (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The subject is a well-known and notable figure in Marathi cinema. He is founder of Planet Marathi, with coverage in reliable sources like Hindustan Times and others in regional languages. He clearly meets WP:NPRODUCER. Monhiroe (talk) 06:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- While Akshay Bardapurkar may be active in Marathi cinema, notability on Wikipedia is not based on fame or familiarity, but on meeting criteria like WP:GNG and WP:NPROF, WP:NPRODUCER, etc. The article currently lacks multiple, in-depth, independent, and reliably sourced profiles. Most sources are trivial mentions, event-based PR, or local coverage. Several sources are affiliated or self-published.
- The mere founding of a company (Planet Marathi) does not confer notability unless independent, sustained coverage exists about him—not just his projects. As it stands, he does not meet the threshold for WP:NPRODUCER. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Source analysis
No. | Source | Type | Independence | Reliability | Notes |
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1 | The Week – "Akshay Bardapurkar: A versatile producer..." | Feature/Profile | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Reliable magazine but tone is promotional and coverage is not critical. |
2 | Financial Express – "Plays a pivotal role in promoting..." | Passing mention | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Reliable source, but the coverage is trivial. |
3 | Vogue India – "Entrepreneur redefining culture..." | Profile | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Glossy coverage, borderline promotional. |
4 | Lokmat – Award announcement | ⚠️ Affiliated | ✅🟩 Reliable (regional) | Affiliated with Marathi cinema; routine coverage. | |
5 | SheThePeople – Award mention | ✅ Independent | ⚠️🟨 Marginal | Source is borderline; not considered highly reliable. | |
6 | IMDb | ❌ Self-published | ❌🟥 Unreliable | Not considered reliable per WP:USERG. | |
7 | Hindustan Times – Celebrity quote | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Only includes a quote, not about the subject. | |
8 | Maharashtra Times – event coverage | ⚠️ Semi-affiliated | ✅🟩 Reliable | Not in-depth or significant. | |
9 | ABP Majha – launch event | ⚠️ Semi-affiliated | ✅🟩 Reliable | Source is routine and local. | |
10 | YouTube (interviews) | ❌ Self-published | ❌🟥 Unreliable | Fails both WP:RS and WP:INDY. | |
11 | ❌ Self-published | ❌🟥 Unreliable | Not usable as source. | ||
12 | Indian Express – Film mention | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Not focused on Bardapurkar, passing role. | |
13 | Mint – business event | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Brief reference in larger business context. | |
14 | Loksatta – press event | ⚠️ Affiliated | ✅🟩 Reliable | Routine event coverage. | |
15 | Sakal Times – business feature | ⚠️ Local independent | ⚠️🟨 Marginal | Short, low-depth. | |
16 | YourStory | ❌ Not reliable | ❌🟥 Unreliable | Blacklisted per WP:RELIABLE. | |
17 | DNA India | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | Passing mention, not substantial. | |
18 | Mid-Day – interview | ✅ Independent | ⚠️🟨 Marginal | Interview-based, borderline reliability. | |
19 | CineBlitz | ⚠️ Semi-affiliated | ⚠️🟨 Marginal | Considered low-tier entertainment media. | |
20 | India Today – cultural feature | ✅ Independent | ✅🟩 Reliable | One-time event highlight. | |
21 | Business World – award list | ✅ Independent | ⚠️🟨 Marginal | Non-substantive inclusion in a listicle. |
All the sources are routine mentions, affiliated coverage, or lack in-depth, critical treatment. The subject don't have independent coverage and fails WP:GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. I gently remind the good reader that for BLPs, the burden of proof remains on the proponents of keeping the article. We've gotten into lots of trouble in the past with poorly sourced BLPs, including in India, where last year the government literally tried to shut down Wikipedia, and even now the wealthy and powerful want to make us bankrupt. So sadly we must self-censor. Bearian (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I believe we're debating only the subject's independent notability here. Has anyone here questioned the article's factuality? The Indian government's threats are over what it considers to be defamatory or uncomplimentary statements, not over the presence of articles on topics the government deems not to be notable. Largoplazo (talk) 14:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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A promotional article about a non-notable institute. The article is heavily based on unreliable and primary sources. No secondary reliable source available to establish Wp:SIGCOV, just passing mentions and trivial mentions.
If we remove, press releases, primary sources and blogs, merely passing mentions are available in actual news portals or wp:RS. Fails Wp:NSCHOOL, WP:NORG and WP:GNG. The institute's founder's article was also deleted recently. Zuck28 (talk) 09:03, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
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no indication this passes gng or nactor Molikog (talk) 19:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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Delete or redirect to The Haunted Mansion (2003 film). Per her IMDB page, her only prominent role appears to be in Haunted Mansion. She otherwise has five guest roles (only two of which are named characters) and a recurring role on Everybody Hates Chris. This AfD really comes down to whether appearing in portions of six of the first 23 episodes of an 88 episode sitcom is a significant role under under WP:ENT AND whether the word multiple under WP:ENT really means two total non-guest roles. My belief is no, appearing in Haunted Mansion and Everybody Loves Chris does not make the subject "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded." This would be a similar outcome as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmy Clarke and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dee Dee Davis. Mpen320 (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Her roles should be mentioned on the respective pages for these movies/shows, but otherwise the article should just be deleted. Subject is a non-notable former actress. Surayeproject3 (talk) 12:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete on the basis of the original argument and the lack of future Wikipedia:SIGCOV since she's been retired from the industry for over a decade. Se7enNationArmy2024 (talk) 19:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maina Wa Ndung'u (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Minor actor, either coi or upe editor. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 19:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Most of our Kenyan artists have a limited and often unreliable online presence, which makes it challenging to gather sufficient citations. If deletion becomes the default solution, many African artists will remain unrepresented on Wikipedia, which goes against the very goal of inclusivity. We kindly urge you to take this context into consideration. SeanTwice (talk) 07:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you, SeanTwice, but upon considering the sources presented it appears this individual doesn't meet general notability. PK650 (talk) 04:37, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. WP:BIAS is an essay and cannot outweigh the WP:GNG guideline. If sources don't exist, they don't exist. Sources 2 and 4 are the only WP:SIGCOV of this person and they are both interviews, which don't count toward notability. Astaire (talk) 21:11, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Vicky Huang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced WP:BLP of an actress with no clear evidence of passing WP:NACTOR. As always, an actress is not automatically entitled to have an article just because there's a list of performances in it, and instead we have to see evidence of WP:GNG-worthy media coverage about her and her performances to deem her notable.
This is completely unreferenced, however, and the roles it lists were almost entirely supporting or bit parts rather than major starring roles — in either film or television, the only clear leading role named here is a short film rather than a feature or a television series, and the stage roles can't exactly be notability-making ones if they're so poorly sourceable that you're stuck denoting them solely as "lead vs. ensemble" and can't even name the specific characters she played.
Even on a ProQuest search, I'm finding virtually no useful sourcing that could be added: almost every hit I get is for either a real estate broker or a customer in a bridal shop, neither of whom can be verified as the same person as this at all, and the only hits I get that are clearly for an actress are glancing namechecks of her existence in theatrical calendar listings and an article about a photographer she once posed for rather than substantive coverage about her or any of her performances in anything.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to pass GNG on much better sourcing than I've been able to locate. Bearcat (talk) 21:03, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, regretfully, a search via DuckDuckGo also doesn't show any other evidence of significant coverage. Supporting roles in a few movies doesn't cut it, in regards to NACTOR. LightlySeared (talk) 13:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as I can't find any sourcing with a WP:BEFORE search. Roles mentioned in article don't seem rise to level of notability. Nnev66 (talk) 16:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - we can't afford (literally) to have unsourced BLPs anymore. If someone wants to save this, do it this weekend. Bearian (talk) 20:28, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- List of Cairo Higher Institute of Cinema people (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redundant to Category:Cairo Higher Institute of Cinema alumni Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- It has different information because some of the people are different professions (e.g., directors, actors, writers), and it is easier to look up alumni/faculty by profession from the list. Also some people are on the list who are not in the category. Also some people in the list are faculty members and would not be included in the alumni category. static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 21:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be willing to see the expansion of the category to include those people. I think a category is a better fit here unless there is secondary information about each person in the list that is necessary to understanding the group as a whole. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep There are a ton of lists that can be found through categories, like List of California Institute of Technology people. I don't see why this one would be an exception. User01938 (talk) 23:28, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Higher Institute of Cinema, where a shorter list of alumni already exists, and the parent article is not particularly long. Also, comparing to Caltech is laughable. Caltech is a world-class elite school. The Higher Institute of Cinema is not. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Their point was that this type of list exists for many universities and institutions of higher learning as a separate page, not that this institute is similar to Caltech static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- You're missing the point. Being an alumnus of an elite school can be notable, but not just any school. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is a major film school. Just because it is not notable to you does not mean no one in the world thinks it is notable. Maybe you are missing the point. static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:55, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Their point was that this type of list exists for many universities and institutions of higher learning as a separate page, not that this institute is similar to Caltech static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Mohit Marwah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable actor. Lacks Wp:SIGCOV. Most of the sources are either passing mentions or non-bylined promotional articles. Wp:NEWSORGINDIA. His acting career consists of two films in which he has non-lead roles, and no award nominations or wins, failing Wp:NACTOR.
His additional credits include non-notable short films and music videos.
He received some press coverage due to his connection with the Ambani and Kapoor families and his marriage but notability is not inherited. Zuck28 (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR even WP:NBASIC, also wikipedia is not WP:INHERITED. Baqi:) (talk) 08:57, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep He had lead roles in two notable (if average) films, so just meets WP:NACTOR. See WP:ICTFSOURCES for reliable sources for Indian films - there are additional, reliable sources in the articles about the films which could be added here. It appears that he is now a managing director at a university - this [10] is not a reliable source (being sponsored content and full of peacockery), but if a reliable source could be found, that info could be added to the article to bring it up to date. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep The subject meets WP:NACTOR with lead roles in two feature films. I can find references which are enough to support the case. Sooterout (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Which of the sources, demonstrates that these two roles are lead roles? Zuck28 (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The actor did have significant roles in Fugly and Raag Desh. In fact, in the latter, the subject was featured on the theatrical poster, which strongly suggests that he was one of the central characters. In Fugly as well, the actor played a major role that received attention and analysis in reviews by film critics.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: Passes NACTOR through roles in Fugly and Raag Desh. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 13:21, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- There are no sources to verify that these roles are significant to pass NACTOR. Zuck28 (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- The reviews in RS listed on the articles for both films consistently mention Marwah. I would consider this enough to verify that his roles in the films are significant enough for NACTOR. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- There are no sources to verify that these roles are significant to pass NACTOR. Zuck28 (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Source Analysis.
- Source 1 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 2 passing mention
- Source 3 passing mention
- Source 4 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 5 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 6 Promotional for debut release. Short article on who subject is related to and how the subject came to limelight before debut.
- Source 7 Interview. Non-Independent of the subject.
- Source 8 Same promotional article with same content as Source 6. Same publishers.
- Source 9 about Subject's wedding
- Source 10 passing mention.
- Source 11 page no available.
- Source 12 Non-Independent of the subject,
- Source 13 Same as source 6
- Source 14 article is about Akshay Marwah. Nothing on the subject.
- Source 15 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 16 promotional article about the subject being launched in debut Fugly.
- Source 17 passing mention
- Source 18 passing mention
- Source 19 Unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES
- Source 20 just an image of subject dressed in Dior Homme
- Source 21 images of subject in fashion.
- Source 22 subject walk the ramp for Fashion designer.
- Source 23, Non-independent of the subject as new face of 'Provogue'. RangersRus (talk) 00:45, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Kevin McGarry (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of an actor, not properly referenced as passing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors are not automatically entitled to Wikipedia articles just because they've had acting roles -- the notability test doesn't reside in listing acting roles, it resides in the quality and depth and volume of WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage that can be shown about him and his performances to support the article with.
But this is referenced principally to directory entries, podcast interviews, one of those garbage "celebrity net worth" PR profiles and content on the self-published production website of the show that constitutes his most potentially notable role, none of which is support for notability at all.
What there is for proper media coverage is one People magazine article that's focusing on his wedding rather than on the significance of his acting, an article in Us Weekly (which per WP:RSP is considered less reliable than People, and thus doesn't count as a strong GNG builder) that's doing the exact same thing, and a piece of "local guy does stuff" in the community news hyperlocal of his own hometown -- which doesn't add up to enough coverage to get him over GNG by itself if the article's sourcing is 85 per cent unreliable junk otherwise.
Just having been in television shows and films is not an automatic notability freebie without significantly better sourcing than this. Also there may be a WP:COI here, as the article was created by an WP:SPA with no history of contributing on any other topic. Bearcat (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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- weak keep: Probably have enough for a basic article. He seems to be in a few popular tv shows. [11], [12], [13]. Enough for at least a basic article. Oaktree b (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment – I believe this article should be kept. Kevin McGarry is a notable Canadian actor best known for major roles on series like When Calls the Heart and Heartland, as well as in Hallmark Channel films. The article includes multiple reliable secondary sources, including Entertainment Tonight, Good Housekeeping, TV Insider, and Hallmark Channel. He meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria for actors through multiple significant roles and national media coverage. SU5MSJ (talk) 01:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- The Hallmark Channel's own self-published website about itself is not reliable or WP:GNG-building sourcing for the purposes of establishing the notability of an actor in Hallmark Channel programming, because it isn't independent coverage from a third party. TV Insider is a directory entry, not reliable coverage in GNG-building media or books. The Good Housekeeping and Entertainment Tonight sources you added, in an incorrect format that couldn't stay in the article, were both dead links that didn't lead to the content that you claimed they were leading to, but to "page not found" errors — and according to the headlines, neither of them appeared to be about Kevin McGarry, since they both pertained to something or somebody else, so even if they could be replaced with correct links they still wouldn't ensure Kevin McGarry's notability just because his name was in them. We're not looking for just any source you can find with his name in it, we're looking for sources that represent substantive coverage, written by journalists, in which Kevin McGarry is the primary subject of the source. Bearcat (talk) 19:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Response Regarding Kevin McGarry Article
- The Hallmark Channel's own self-published website about itself is not reliable or WP:GNG-building sourcing for the purposes of establishing the notability of an actor in Hallmark Channel programming, because it isn't independent coverage from a third party. TV Insider is a directory entry, not reliable coverage in GNG-building media or books. The Good Housekeeping and Entertainment Tonight sources you added, in an incorrect format that couldn't stay in the article, were both dead links that didn't lead to the content that you claimed they were leading to, but to "page not found" errors — and according to the headlines, neither of them appeared to be about Kevin McGarry, since they both pertained to something or somebody else, so even if they could be replaced with correct links they still wouldn't ensure Kevin McGarry's notability just because his name was in them. We're not looking for just any source you can find with his name in it, we're looking for sources that represent substantive coverage, written by journalists, in which Kevin McGarry is the primary subject of the source. Bearcat (talk) 19:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Further coverage in Good Housekeeping and Women's World [14] and [15]. We have enough to show ACTOR being met, the actor seems well-known among the Hallmark Channel fandom. Oaktree b (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: this is a prominent tv actor - the Good Housekeeping and Us Weekly coverage is legit RS. Llajwa (talk) 18:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
I support keeping the article. Kevin McGarry meets the criteria outlined in WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. He is the primary subject of multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources. Recent coverage includes: • Good Housekeeping (feature article about McGarry and his career) • Women’s World (profile piece focused on McGarry) • Us Weekly (relationship timeline and career discussion) • Cinemablend (interview discussing his role in When Calls the Heart)
These are all journalist-written, independent pieces that provide substantive coverage in which McGarry is the main focus—not just mentioned in passing. His leading roles in When Calls the Heart, Heartland, and numerous Hallmark films establish his notability as a prominent TV actor.
Additionally, I’ve been actively working on properly formatting and sourcing the article in accordance with Wikipedia’s standards. As this is my first article, I truly appreciate the feedback and guidance from more experienced editors, and I will continue to add sources and improve the article as I learn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SU5MSJ (talk • contribs) 18:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)- Thank you for relisting the discussion. I’d like to reiterate that this article has been significantly improved since its initial nomination. It now includes multiple reliable, independent sources that provide substantive coverage of Kevin McGarry’s career—not just passing mentions.
- Sources include interviews and articles from: TV Insider, The Toronto Star, The Kincardine Independent, Cineplex Magazine and Cinemablend
- These publications meet the standards of WP:RS and support notability under WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. McGarry has had starring roles in long-running series such as When Calls the Heart and Heartland, and has been a leading actor in over a dozen Hallmark films. His theatre and early TV work has also been documented using third-party sources.
- I’ve also taken care to properly format the citations, avoid non-reliable sources (e.g., IMDb, social media), and link the article to related Wikipedia entries to avoid orphaning.
- I appreciate the opportunity to clarify and improve the article as I am new to this. I welcome any additional feedback to ensure it meets Wikipedia’s policies and standards. SU5MSJ (talk) 18:15, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I also modeled this page after other similar actors with similar credits and citations listed here on WIKI. SU5MSJ (talk) 18:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- please be mindful of badgering the discussion @SU5MSJ and let others' voices be heard. Star Mississippi 00:52, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not my intention to badger, I thought I was encouraged to respond and continue to improve the article. Thanks for letting me know, I truly appreciate it. 2605:59C8:2136:4310:5CA2:FADC:1297:17FB (talk) 01:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- please be mindful of badgering the discussion @SU5MSJ and let others' voices be heard. Star Mississippi 00:52, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- As already noted above, TV Insider is not a reliable or notability-building source — it's a directory entry, not third party coverage in media, so it doesn't count as a notability builder. Interviews also do not count as support for notability — they can be used for additional verification of facts after passage of GNG has already been covered off by stronger sourcing, but since they represent the subject talking about himself rather than being talked about by other people, they don't count as data points toward the initial question of whether the person has passed GNG in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 13:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I also modeled this page after other similar actors with similar credits and citations listed here on WIKI. SU5MSJ (talk) 18:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ador Azad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Likely WP:TOOSOON but fails WP:NACTOR. A lot of announcements on upcoming projects (non of which are notable for Wikipedia), but nothing in-depth about the subject himself outside of non-bylined churnalism and promotional content that mirrors what fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep it: Recently, he is a very popular and notable actor in Bangladesh, about this topic covered in the (Acting career) section. This article has been passed WP:NACTOR for the (Acting career) section. Moreover, this article has been accepted into the AFC draft submission. – Aqsis Bey (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep He pasess WP:NACTOR from the roles he's done. Gepeas (talk) 09:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- First, see WP:HOUNDING. Fewer than 50 edits and yet you show up at numerous AfD discussions with different topics, filed on different dates, etc. Only one connection to all of these which is me. Second, see WP:ATA. Third, there is no inherent notability from WP:NACTOR based on roles (see discussion here).--CNMall41 (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh wow, I didn't even notice you until now, trust me, I'm not exactly out here hounding you. Don't flatter yourself. lol. Secondly, I understand that The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions meets the notability under WP:NACTOR. If that’s incorrect, feel free to correct me, preferably without the snide tone. Gepeas (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not flattered. Pretty duckish when new accounts are created to HOUND. You wouldn't be the first. To appease your vote, I will reiterate what I said in my third point above. Yes, you are incorrect. Simply having the roles does not guarantee notability. I would again suggest you read the discuss I linked to (or don't). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know how you came up with this hounding idea. Out of the 11 AfD discussions I'm involved in, only two came up with your name. Anyway, I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with your dogmatic mindset. Gepeas (talk) 18:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not flattered. Pretty duckish when new accounts are created to HOUND. You wouldn't be the first. To appease your vote, I will reiterate what I said in my third point above. Yes, you are incorrect. Simply having the roles does not guarantee notability. I would again suggest you read the discuss I linked to (or don't). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh wow, I didn't even notice you until now, trust me, I'm not exactly out here hounding you. Don't flatter yourself. lol. Secondly, I understand that The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions meets the notability under WP:NACTOR. If that’s incorrect, feel free to correct me, preferably without the snide tone. Gepeas (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- First, see WP:HOUNDING. Fewer than 50 edits and yet you show up at numerous AfD discussions with different topics, filed on different dates, etc. Only one connection to all of these which is me. Second, see WP:ATA. Third, there is no inherent notability from WP:NACTOR based on roles (see discussion here).--CNMall41 (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - As per the actor has done some notable films.
—ApurboWiki2024 (talk) 09:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:VW. "the actor has done some notable films." Which films, what roles, what sources verify, where is the significant coverage documenting such? There is NO guideline that says someone is notable for having "done some notable films."--CNMall41 (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm getting the scent of a UPE firm here. A suspicious account messaged me on social media asking for advice on how to keep this article up! Also, it fails WP:NACTOR, so delete. —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 09:23, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- That was me who messaged Yahya, okay, you have to remember that I submitted this page as a draft. And it passed the AFC. So Keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.89.25.23 (talk) 13:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nicole Giannino (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage (either for her acting career or her ice hockey career) in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 23:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Agree: The CWHL fails Wikipedia:NHOCKEY/LA, and her career also fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Combined with the lack of media attention, I regrettably agree that this article should face deletion. That being said, there is something to be said about the inherent notability of someone who has consistently achieved at a high level, even when such achievement doesn't get media attention. Doesn't change my vote, but she is obviously extremely talented, and I dislike the deletion of the article because there isn't sufficient coverage. Unfortunately, we are at the whim of what media decides to cover, and what people decide to care about, and in this case, Women's professional hockey and inline skating is not it. Foxtrot620 (talk) 01:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Two of the sources in the article, in Pulse magazine [16] and Telegram & Gazette [17], have sigcov of her. They do include interviews with her, but also have info about her career and her life outside hockey (studying biology and speech language pathology, which could be added to this article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I can only find information about her being drafted [18], that's a primary source anyway; doesn't seem to be much coverage. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:23, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per RebeccaGreen - Ike Lek (talk) 04:43, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. The second source that Rebecca provided seems more like a directory and doesn't convince me, but the first one I think might be enough. Would also suggest a draftify as a middle ground. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify – Per InvadingInvader and Liz. Svartner (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The article is already ~450 words and has 12 sources. What would be the benefit of moving to draftspace? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - per RG. --Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 05:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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