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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haritha Gogineni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Topic is not meeting WP:GNG. Macbeejack 07:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. For editors who object to Deletion, it all comes down to policy and having multiple, independent, secondary sources providing significant coverage. The same as every other article on the project. You can always work on a better sourced version in Draft space. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet notability guidelines, specifically WP:GNG's WP:SIGCOV aspect and has never been reliably sourced since it was first created in 2015. While some attempts have been made, no edits have stuck due to unreliable sources (blogs or wikiclones that clearly sourced past versions of this page which again, offered no reliable sources). Zinnober9 (talk) 01:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't delete this page. He is a great spiritual master and was extremely influential in his era and has done huge amounts of service to humanity. We will update the page soon with all details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.47.72 (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. AfD is not a place for accusing others of being Sockspuppets. I am closing as no-consensus due to the lack of policy-based discussion about the article. (non-admin closure) Shadow311 (talk) 14:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to Military campaigns of Hari Singh Nalwa. Out of the 5 sources on this page, only 2 are reliable; Hari Ram Gupta and Rishi Singh. The two other sources: "Journal of the United Service Institution of India" as well as "Selections from the records of the government of Punjab" are WP:RAJ era sources written in the 1800s, so under no circumstances can we use them. The last source is a Google books snapshot with no preview available either on Google books or anywhere else on the Internet. Such snapshots have been deprecated in the reliable sources noticeboard.

The coverage in both Hari Ram Gupta's and Rishi Singh's work, the extent of which are only small, singular paragraphs does not justify an entire Wikipedia article and fails Wikipedia's standards for notability-[1] Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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  • Keep: if an event has 2 reliable independent sources with significant coverage that is enough to presume notability per GNG. I don't see what the issue is here. I'd also note that WP:RAJ is just an essay and that it refers to the use of certain Raj-era sources to source content on the caste system. It does not mean that all such sources are can never be used for anything.
Jtrrs0 (talk) 16:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Jtrrs0:, I think there's a misunderstanding, the two reliable sources (Hari Rm Gupta and Rishi Singh) do not have significant coverage, hence my nomination for deletion. Both sources only have one small, vague paragraph that provides no in-depth details about the battle.
Here is what Hari Ram Gupta says of the battle: "Having failed at Peshawar, Sayyid Ahmad planned to seize Attock fort from the Sikhs. Its possession by him would automatically clear Hazara and Peshawar from the Sikhs, and it would open the gateway for the invasion of the Panjab. Khadi Khan of Hund secretly alerted the Sikh commander of the fort, and the plan fell through. Sayyid Ahmad, in anger attacked the village Haidru, and put to the sword all the inhabitants, both Hindus and Muslims. On hearing this news Hari Singh Nalwa suddenly appeared on the scene and massacred nearly three-fourths of Khalifa's Ghazis. Sayyid Ahmad managed to escape to the west of the Indus."
Rishi Singh says: "It appears that even when he seemed successful, Syed Ahmad began losing his control over the tribal leadership. Many tribal chiefs began betraying him. For instance, at the time of taking over the fort of Attock, Khadi Khan of Hund alerted the Sikh commander, Hari Singh Nalwa, who with his 20,000 men attacked Syed Ahmad’s forces and killed three-fourths of the Khalifa’s Ghazis".
As you can see the coverage in both sources fall well short of Wikipedia's SIGCOV requirements.
The rest of the sources were published in the 1800s and are simply far too old to use. WP:RAJ is an essay, but it's essentially a de facto policy and widely accepted norm in South Asian topic areas, even outside of caste topics. You can see through the reliable sources noticeboard that WP:RAJ sources are thoroughly deprecated and disallowed on Wikipedia-[2]. @RegentsPark:, an admin involved in SA topics, could also clarify, or you could take it up with him to confirm. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:51, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi thanks for the ping and the reply. I see. Re SIGCOV, I would agree. This doesn't necessarily seem like SIGCOV. Re WP:RAJ, I've had a quick glance at the discussion on the Noticeboard. To me it seems overkill to say that 1800s sources can never be used or must be used as primary sources. I accept that that should be the case re anthropological subjects but for everything? Seems excessive to me. Now, if the consensus is that they are never to be used for anything (would be grateful if RegentsPark could confirm) then I'll happily reconsider my position, but to my eyes that's excessive. Jtrrs0 (talk) 08:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jtrrs0: I understand your concerns but sources authored in the 1800s are plain and simple not allowed in this topic area of Wikipedia. Even sources in the early 1900s are granted some leeway if they were authored by very prominent Indian historians, but the sources in this page were written British administrators in the framework of the British polity. RegentsPark has also stated: "In short, I would suggest discounting most Raj era texts regardless of who wrote them and be careful about using obscure or popular texts post-Raj. Sticking to modern academic writers is probably the safest. Context, to quote TB below, matters." and "Thanks Sitush. @Suthasianhistorian8 and Twarikh e Khalsa:, in short, the consensus is that neither McAuliffe nor Gurbilas Patashahi are reliable sources and you should not use them. In general avoid raj era sources entirely and, for historical content, use only recent sources since historiography is not static.". Keep in mind, Max Arthur MacAuliffe was a British administrator and historian who authored his works on Indian religion in 1909, the sources in this article predate that by 20 and 34 years. They're no where near being recent or modern scholarship.
Also can I assume that you have this page on your watchlist so I don't have to ping you everytime? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the in depth reply. Yes. On Watchlist. Will reply more fully tomorrow. I think I’ll be changing my position to delete. Jtrrs0 (talk) 23:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Two reliables sources and others are all unreliable like Journal of the United Service Institution of India from 1890 and other by CAPTAIN P. L. N. CAVAGNARI, a British captain/administrator. The combination of two reliable sources by Gupta and Singh give the why, when, where and outcome of the battle, enough for passing WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closer: I've previously expressed concerns that RangersRus is a sockpuppet of HaughtonBrit, an incredibly pertinacious sockmaster who created dozens of sock/burner accounts ranging from early 2023 till present day, and someone who has been hounding and trying to sabotage me unceasingly since his sock accounts Javerine and Ralx888 were blocked. I most recently dealt with his sock account Dekhoaayadon who was blocked just a few days ago. His vote here is reminiscent of the frivolous arguments and WP:IDHT which HB frequently employed to frustrate me and many others to retain articles/edit which aggrandized the Sikh religion as much as possible- he is blatantly trying to sabotage me here. He has done this on 3 separate occasions. Once the current HB SPI report (which is closely linked to Dekhoaayadon) is dealt with I will ask admins to take a look at RangersRus' duck edits. Enough is enough. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Closer, this is case of WP:BULLY and revenge threat to stop me from voting. All editors have right to vote here and I have voted on AFDS by Suthasianhistorian8 before in his favor where I found the nomination to be right. When I vote against because I do not see the nomination to be right, he makes this sock threats. Suthasianhistorian8 filed SPI before for same reason that two admins @The Wordsmith: and @Drmies: found no connection [3]. Suthasianhistorian8 also filed incident of Administrator noticeboard against The Wordsmith for misunderstanding his SPI case and the incident was closed with closing statement "No consensus has or will emerge to find fault with TheWordsmith's or Drmies' SPI findings." [4]. Suthasianhistorian8 also did forum shopping and WP:OTHERPARENT to try to block me with revenge SPI case. Suthasianhistorian8 has no problem with my vote when in his favor but has one with not in his favor. RangersRus (talk) 00:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All I can say to everyone involved is to wait for the SPI I will file. This time I will put much more effort into making it concise and thorough as possible; last time I made the mistake of writing things off the top of my head, I won't do that next time. Lastly, a CU check was never ran on RangersRus, only a behavioural analysis was done- HB's sock accounts like Finmas & Dazzem were previously also deemed unrelated, but were later blocked on the grounds of duck edits with HB's IPs, proxies and SPAs. Historian2325, another suspected sock account, was also checked last year and was found to be unrelated, but since then he's made numerous duck edits and will likely also be blocked. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. It is not appropriate to accuse an editor of being a sockpuppet in an AFD discussion. If you have concerns, file a case at SPI. If there is no confirmation of sockpuppetry through an SPI, then you are just trying to tarnish the reputation of an editor which is a personal attack. Please conduct a discussion elsewhere.
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  • Keep, above users are correct. Two reliables sources is enough. Definitely doesn't warrant deleting a article. Deletion nominator has behavior of targeting only Sikh victory battle articles.
UnbiasedSN (talk) 00:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:SIGCOV. The combined coverage in both sources doesn't even exceed 200 words, and they're both virtually identical to one another.Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 00:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 19:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

K. R. L. Thangavel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Candidate for the upcoming election in India, fails WP:NPOL. No other apparent claim to notability. There has been a general consensus that Wikipedia is not a publicity forum for election candidates. AusLondonder (talk) 16:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:Delete Karthick (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Iamakarthick we are all only allowed one vote. She was afairy 02:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 00:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diamonds Are Forever, So Are Morals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Primarily, this page was created by an editor who has been banned for engaging in undisclosed paid editing. Subsequently, it has been modified by a group of editors who have recently created and edited an article related to the subject, attempting to exert influence on this page and also at Solar power in India, where they were actually discovered. Conflicts of interest and undisclosed paid editing are prevalent issues across all these pages. Charlie (talk) 15:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Conflict-of-interest editing isn't grounds for deleting the article itself, but for rewriting/rewording it. Deletion discussion should focus on whether it's notable per WP:NBOOK. Crystalholm (talk) 16:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was withdrawn by nominator‎. (non-admin closure) 🍪 CookieMonster 04:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Govind Dholakia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet the criteria for Wikipedia's Notability of Politicians guideline (WP:NPOL). Nominated to the Rajya Sabha but not elected, and has not yet taken on the role. Remaining content is promotional in nature (WP:NEWSORGINDIA), including his autobiography. Charlie (talk) 15:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 13:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raagini Sutradhar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not yet notable WP:NACTOR, only minor roles so far. A WP:BEFORE search turns up no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources, just routine syndicated movie promotion, and a few brief articles about her wedding to a director. This Times of India article cited says she was cast in Lage Prema Nazar in 2021, but I can't find a reliable source to verify that she appeared in the released film. Unsourced claims about her early life (now removed) and improperly sourced promotional photo suggest undisclosed paid editing. Wikishovel (talk) 12:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 00:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Koustav Bagchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLP of politician who has not held elected office. Coverage relates to his switch from one party to another. Article does not detail any other claim to notability. AusLondonder (talk) 07:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting to assess changes to article since its nomination.
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP. Theroadislong (talk) 12:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No coverage in reliable sources. Remsense 23:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn following the improvements of the article. Commendable job by DareshMohan. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't find any third-party source. Fails WP:NFILM. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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None of the sources comply with WP:HISTRS. Rattan Singh Jaggi is a litterateur active in the Language department of his institution, with no educational background in history, and primarily specializes in the literary analysis of Sikh holy books and writing hagiographies based off them, as well as translating texts into Hindi and Punjabi. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/gurmat-scholar-dr-jaggi-chosen-for-padma-shri-8405050/ He is also used as the inline citation for the infobox which makes an astounding claim that 100 Sikhs defeated 5000 Afghans. Bobby Singh Bansal is a self proclaimed historian, with no educational training/credentials in history nor any peer reviewed books or journals or scholarly reviews of his work; his work was also self published (Hay House). The Punjabi Kosh is a vernacular source which also seems to be a hagiography. Autar Singh Sandhu is a WP:RAJ era source as it was written in 1935 and Sohan Singh Seetal is a poet and lyricist; both sources were also deprecated by an admin involved in South Asian topics. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 06:34, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Autar Singh Sandhu's book was explicitly deprecated by an admin here in the reliable sources noticeboard-[8]. "As Acroterion and Springee indicated, assessment of a source's reliability should take into account a multitude of factors. For example, the Nalwa book is likely an unacceptable source because of its age (1935), publisher, and lack of academic reviews and peer-reviewed articles written by its author (at least I didn't find any on a quick search). The author holding "only" an MA would be the least of the concerns because during the 1930s the PhD degree was not as well-established as it is now and many recognized experts and academics lacked it." Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 23:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, Sikhism, Afghanistan, and India. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. After relinquishing sources that are either poor or fail WP:V and in non-english language, two sources by historians Autar Singh Sandhu and Bobby Singh Bansal look OK to me where both pass WP:HISTRS. I cannot tell if Bansal is self proclaimed historian from what little quick research I found on him. Raj era is if it's written by Britons or Briton diplomats and administrators or under the guidance and review of Briton administrators. Some of these are like Lepel Griffin, Michael MacAuliffe, Sir John Withers McQueen. I found a source by Autar Singh Sandhu published in 1987 that too has coverage on this event on page 79 of book [9], General Hari Singh Nalwa: Builder of the Sikh Empire. Many other historians like Tahir Kamran, Ian Talbot, have depended on Autar Singh Sandhu's secondary works where they used his book General Hari Singh Nalwa: Builder of the Sikh Empire (New Delhi: Uppal Publishing House, 1987). Bobby Singh Bansal has too been depended upon by same historians and more like Himadri Banerjee and William Dalrymple, including academic professors of social sciences and Humanities, Anjali Roy and journalists like Anita Anand. RangersRus (talk) 14:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Expected as much from you. Bobby Singh Bansal by no means passes WP:HISTRS, he has zero educational background or training in history, nor does he have any peer reviewed books or journals to his name. His books were all self published. In fact, his current profession is a city councillor. This article makes it abundantly clear that the term "historian" was a self conferred title based on interests as opposed to any educational background.
    Autar Singh Sandhu did not publish any book in 1987, the Google Books link your provided is not Autar Singh Sandhu's original work, but rather a reprint by a different publisher. Google Book links are also known to be notoriously unreliable with publication dates. And it seems exceedingly unlikely that someone who wrote a book in 1935-[10], would then write another book on the same subject, 54 years later. There is hardly any information available about Autar Singh Sandhu, apart from the fact that he wrote one book in 1935 about Hari Singh Nalwa; thoroughly unreliable. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:21, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Historians like Tahir Kamran, Ian Talbot, have depended on Autar Singh Sandhu's secondary works where they used his book General Hari Singh Nalwa: Builder of the Sikh Empire (New Delhi: Uppal Publishing House, 1987). Bobby Singh Bansal has too been depended upon by same historians and more like Himadri Banerjee and William Dalrymple, including academic professors of social sciences and Humanities, Anjali Roy and journalists like Anita Anand. RangersRus (talk) 12:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Anjali Roy commented on Bansal's documentary, which was not related to historical claims, but rather on the Sikhs in Afghanistan who recently immigrated to the UK. Himadri Banarjee cited a newspaper column written by Bansal, not his books-[11]. You must also be aware that even if a source is used as reference in a reliable secondary source, it does not automatically make that source reliable by association, it must be judged on its own merits; Khafi Khan is cited hundreds of times in various books, but he cannot be used as a source on Wikipedia for example. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 12:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    don't know who Khafi Khan is but if not a secondary source or from 20th century and beyond then inarguably Khafi Khan would be unreliable but not the ones in discussion here. RangersRus (talk) 13:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You need to read WP:HISTRS carefully. "Historical scholarship is generally not: Popular works that were not reviewed, especially works by journalists, or memoirs" as well the section "What is "recent" scholarship in history?". In the case of Autar Singh Sandhu, an admin has already determined that 1935 is far too old coupled with the lack of academic reviews and scholarly works by the author. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 13:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jadunath Sarkar sources are used that are as old and its because historians today depend on his secondary work and it is same case with Sandhu. RangersRus (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A few cites in later books is nowhere near a mitigating factor since scholarly books cite a large corpus of all sorts of work nor does it prove that historians relied on him in any substantive manner. If that was the case, entering Autar Singh Sandhu's name on the Internet would return far more in depth details and reviews of his work as is the case for Jadunath Sarkar who has an entire Britannica article dedicated to him, as opposed to one Internet archive link to a book. If you insist he is reliable; please provide at the very least one actual scholarly review of his work or at least one other book he authored outside of Hari Singh Nalwa.Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 14:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sandhu is in bibliography and notes of other historians. Maybe not wide known like Jadunath Sarkar but in wikipedia you can use scholarly works where possible and if scholarly works are unavailable, the highest quality commercial or popular works can be used. I have my vote and let's give others space to weigh in with votes too. RangersRus (talk) 14:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Mentions in bibliographies is not included as a factor in WP:HISTRS, things like the educational background of the author, whether the work was published by an academic/scholarly institution, and scholarly reviews of the book (regardless of whether the source is an academic or popular work) are. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 04:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Tamil films of 1999#October — December. Liz Read! Talk! 04:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NFILM. Can't find in this source. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Tamil films of 2008#July–September. as an ATD. Liz Read! Talk! 04:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannot find reliable secondary which are needed for articles to exist. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Guidelines_on_sources#Not reliable -- Filmibeat is unreliable. 2 sources about director dying. Needs 2 reliable reviews -- bharatstudent.com is likely unreliable (no link on Wikipedia). DareshMohan (talk) 01:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Sandstein 19:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of notability. Sources are generally trivial or from social media or IMDB. Draftified twice to allow improvements to be made but returned to mainspace immediately by its author. No evidence for WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk   15:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB is not an acceptable reliable source on Wikipedia.  Velella  Velella Talk   08:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recovery of Chittorgarh (1321) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Can't see any WP:RS explicitly records the event as "Recovery of Chittorgarh". Many forts has been captured and recaptured several times in the military history. Seperate articles are made whenever they are notable. As seems, the article is poorly written, taken the reference from broken lines from the sources. No in-depth description about this in any of the reliable sources. Fails GNG, and the title is a fabricated one. Imperial[AFCND] 11:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How could you call a historical battle fabricated? It was a turning point in history of Mewar State. I don't think it's Necessary to remove the article Sinsilal (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sinsilal, do not move an article being discussed at an AFD to Draft space nor remove the AFD tag. If you persist, you could lose your editing privileges for disruptive editing. Liz Read! Talk! 06:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. One source cannot be found, another does not entirely support the narrative, such as it is, the others are difficult to search for lack of page numbers. Brief, poorly written. Written by sock of a POV pusher, unreliable. I agree with the previous commentators. Donner60 (talk) 04:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Soccerway stub on a footballer that played two matches before disappearing. My own searches yielded nothing better than Telegraph India, which mentions him in the title and an image caption but only once in the main article prose (so it's not WP:SIGCOV), and TOI, another match report that mentions him, this time his performance wasn't so good and the article mentions some mistakes he made but doesn't go into any depth about him as an individual. From the second article, we can perhaps make a presumption as to why his career was so short (although this would be WP:OR) but having a bad game, on its own, is not enough for WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG and I don't see any actual direct significant coverage of Khara. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:CORP, though it's WP:LISTED. A WP:BEFORE search turned up only press releases, obvious sponsored content like this in WP:NEWSORGINDIA and on computing news websites, and passing mentions. Wikishovel (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. plicit 00:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable, no WP:SIGCOV apart from her coming out of the closet as LGBT. Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 07:35, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Appears to have sustained significant coverage, like this Forbes India (staff writer) bio, this in the Economic Times, this in the Business Standard, and so forth. Admittedly many Indian news sites are sometimes dubious, but this much coverage across lots of different major news sources still seems like enough for notability.— Moriwen (talk) 15:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Passes WP:GNG. Subject was on Forbes list and had coverage in sources like Bloomberg. Per Moriwen, much coverage in reliable news sources. RangersRus (talk) 14:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. No prejudice against speedy renomination per relatively low participation. North America1000 10:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominating this page for deletion again because it has remained overtly promotional and lacks merit of its own. In the last deletion discussion, some IDs might have been paid to submit a keep vote. Several of those accounts are either banned or inactive now. Notedolly2 (talk) 07:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Eyeing on his achievements, Karan Adani has much coverage in news media like Business Standards, NDTV, Economic Times, Bloomberg, New York Times, on his personal life and career achievements. Passes WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 14:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Karan Adani's entire image is promotional because of his status as a wealthy heir of Adani Group. Any mention of him, even in reputable publications like the New York Times, tends to focus trivially on his connection to his father and the Group. Most coverage highlights things other than his achievements, which are not portrayed neutrally across any form of media. Notedolly2 (talk) 06:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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All WP:RAJ era sources (apart from Sharma). Nishant Shashikant Sharma's work was published the International Journal of Research which has been deprecated as a predatory publisher as per here-[12] Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 20:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 16:00, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Negligible mention of the battle in the acceptable sources listed here. Most of the article appears to be written from the Gurbilas Patshahi, which is a primary source and has been explicitly deprecated by admins-[15]. The two other sources, Hari Ram Gupta and Fauja Singh's work, make only passing mention of this battle; both are short paragraphs, and are identical to one another. Tony Jacques' source is a tertiary one, with thousands of short entries related to thousands of battles spanning fom Europe to the Americas to Africa to Asia which took place over hundreds of years. It too only contains a few sentences about this battle. This event clearly does not deserve an entire Wikipedia article since it fails WP:SIGCOV-[16]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 04:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the source by Tony Jacques? UnbiasedSN (talk) 06:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a tertiary source which includes a very short summary of thousands of battles which took place around the world, from Europe to South Asia to North America to Africa, spanning hundreds of years. While the source could be used to bolster reliable, secondary sources with a strong focus on South Asian history, on a standalone basis, it is quite weak and only serves as a complementary, auxillary source. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Note to closer: I updated the article, removed the OR and the content sourced from the deprecated primary source, Gurbilas Patshahi. The current state of the article is a reflection of the coverage from its sources. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet WP:NPOLITICIAN nor the GNG. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 19:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:27, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable record label. Fails to meet WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. I could not find any sources on Google, and nothing has changed since the last AfD. – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete (or possibly speedy) again no sign of notability of any flavour, just like at the previous AfD. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I also thought about applying CSD A7, but I wondered if it had already been rejected for speedy deletion before, which might be why it was nominated for AfD. So, I concluded that AfD would be the best course of action. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – Unable to find anything else usable online. Here is an analysis of what we have right now.
Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
No Provided by company. Yes I suppose it's just factual data? No No
No Yes No No
No No ~ No
No Press release. No No
Yes Yes No No
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for corporations, as explained in WP:NCORP and WP:ORGCRIT. WP:PROMO. Charlie (talk) 07:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. In plain English, this means that references cannot rely *only* on information provided by the company - such as what seems to be the case here where most of the references are cut-and-paste jobs from the company's IPO prospectus and the rest is mere commentary on their stock market performance with no in-depth "Independent Content" *about the company*. Perhaps in the future some analysts might publish something as suggested above, but I cannot locate anything on this company that meets GNG/NCORP. HighKing++ 18:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Highking lacks in depth coverage fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. There was some debate over the question whether becoming a CEO at the age of 14 is an event. Regardless, the achievement received a sufficient amount of significant coverage in mainstream, national news outlets over several years so as not to fail the third prong of BLP1E, as the Keep views correctly argued. I see no basis in policy that coverage has to be international, and don't find WP:NOTWEBHOST to be relevant here. Owen× 00:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable WP:1E, WP:NOTWEBHOST Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 04:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Sources 3 and 10 are in RS, not an overwhelming keep, but we have enough confirmation of her notability. A Guinness record isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 19:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Both the sources are are more like an interview with the topic and doesn't seem independent. Bhivuti45 (talk) 21:34, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - as I checked, the sources are either dead or churnalism and sponsored posts. Bhivuti45 (talk) 21:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep – I feel that WP:BLP1E shouldn't apply all that well to age. Especially because we have sources starting from 2011 and spanning to 2019. I agree that there is likely churnalism for some of the sources here, but there is at least 3 generally reliable sources that can be used. Part of the sources do contain interviews, but some either do commentate or introduce the subject before the interview, which constitutes just enough WP:INDEPENDENT for me. TLAtlak 10:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Achievement is that she is the youngest CEO and that is all we know from one or two reliable sources and this was news in 2011. I do not see sources where the coverage was an international recognition. I did not find articles where her achievements were highly notable. Simple search now also takes you back to Indian news media links from 2011, 2013 and one from 2016 by hindu.com. I do not find her notable because there are many other young CEOs who are and can be considered notable because they were listed in Fortune 500 magazine but Sindhuja made into no such list. Maybe a page like List of youngest CEOs where I could have decided to redirect or merge to but I did not find any such page here. RangersRus (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. While the Keep arguments were weak, we do not delete a page based on one contested !vote. Owen× 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable, no WP:INDEPTH SIGCOV. WP:ROUTINE coverage Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 03:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to National Law School of India University. Star Mississippi 13:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable per WP:NJOURNAL Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 03:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to National Law School of India University. Star Mississippi 13:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable per WP:NJOURNAL Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 03:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to National Law School of India University, its publishing institution. There's no real claim of notability here. That the "journal has been cited in various publications" and "the only student-run journal to be cited by the Supreme Court of India" are misleading; it is not the journal that is being cited, but the article published in the journal. This might suggest notability of the authors whose work is cited, but not the publication where the articles were published. Further, in that respect, "student-run" is irrelevant, since it is the author that is being cited, the fact that he or she published in a student-run journal has no bearing on its notability.
It's worth a paragraph in the law school's article, but lacks notability for a free-standing article. TJRC (talk) 20:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. If an editor wants to work on this article in Draft space, let me know or make a request at WP:REFUND. Liz Read! Talk! 07:28, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NACTOR (one sort of lead role with five others and one supporting role). Notability not established. All sources are passing mentions. The greatandhra source about Ajastos sounds like an ad and is unreliable: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Guidelines on sources.

Best to redirect to Hostel Days. Also, WP:TOO EARLY. DareshMohan (talk) 21:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • As the original creator of the article, I would like to recommend Strong Keep, as I believe this new age of actors and upcoming film makers would become more and more relevanth with digital age and media, hence if the concensus reaches delete, i would rather have it drafted than merged to any other article. bɑʁɑqoxodaraP (talk) 06:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article depicts a legendary tale involving two figures, devoid of any historical basis. It fails WP:GNG, and there are no reliable sources referring to it as the "Battle of Bahraich." The title is a fabricated name, and reputable sources do not classify it as a battle. Instead, numerous sources, including the parent article, refer to both figures as part of a legend. Failure to meet GNG criteria and its lack of connection to actual historical events, it is worth noting that no historian identifies it as the "Battle of Bahraich." Imperial[AFCND] 13:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep
I appreciate the concerns raised regarding the historical authenticity of the "Battle of Bahraich (1034)" article. However, I would like to provide some additional context before a decision is made.
While I understand that some sources may classify the events described in the article as a legend or myth, it's essential to recognize the cultural significance of such tales. The story of the Battle of Bahraich holds deep cultural and historical value for many communities, even if it may not align with traditional academic standards of historical evidence.
Rather than outright deletion, I suggest considering alternative approaches to the article. Perhaps it could be revised to include a section discussing the legendary aspects of the story, while also acknowledging its cultural importance. Additionally, efforts could be made to find scholarly perspectives that analyze the narrative from a cultural or folklore studies lens.
In conclusion, I believe that outright deletion may overlook the broader cultural and historical context surrounding the "Battle of Bahraich (1034)". I encourage us to explore alternative solutions that respect the cultural significance of the story while also upholding Wikipedia's standards of verifiability and neutrality.
Thank you for considering my perspective.
Sincerely, Sudsahab (talk) 13:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC) Note to closing admin: Sudsahab (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
I don't understand how this argument makes a point to oppose the deletion. Myths cannot be mixed with history. And most importantly, it is not accepted to invent names for military conflicts, whether it is real, or mythological. I apologize if I'm mistaken, but your comment appears to resemble an AI-generated essay rather than a genuine argument.Imperial[AFCND] 14:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding myths and history, Wikipedia's policy on verifiability WP:V states that all information must be based on reliable, published sources. However, the policy also acknowledges that myths and legends can be significant aspects of cultural narratives surrounding historical events. Therefore, if there are reliable sources discussing the mythological aspects of the Battle of Bahraich and their cultural significance, they can be included in the article with appropriate context and attribution, as outlined in the reliable sources guideline WP:RS.Wikipedia's naming conventions for events WP:EVENTN recommend using the most common name for the event as determined by reliable sources. If there is a commonly accepted name for the Battle of Bahraich in reliable sources, it should be used in the article. However, if no such name exists, a descriptive title that accurately reflects the nature of the conflict can be used, in accordance with the policy on article titles WP:AT. I want to clarify that the sources I have added to the article support and verify the title "Battle of Bahraich." Each citation I have included discusses this specific event, providing historical context and supporting the use of this title. Therefore, it is not an invented name but rather one supported by reliable sources. Sudsahab (talk) 14:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again an AI generated essay with no point of valid arguement. Imperial[AFCND] 14:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not an AI generated arguement Sudsahab (talk) 04:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Nomination has been withdrawn, sources added to the article. Liz Read! Talk! 23:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The film is obscure, undersourced and fails WP:NFILM. In fact the producer's son said, "even I don’t remember much of that film". Kailash29792 (talk) 04:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 06:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Karthik Naralasetty has some sources on his life and company, a 30 under 30 article and some promotional content, he won an award 13 years ago, I don't think it provides SIGCOV or establishes GNG.

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Tamil films of 1999#January — March. Liz Read! Talk! 21:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't find any third-party sources. Possibly fails WP:NFILM. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTINHERITED. Just because they own a bunch of cricket teams, that doesn't mean that the company itself is notable enough. I don't see enough independent coverage of them (i.e. other than just saying they own these teams) to pass WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:48, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • None of those look like WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to me. Sportskeeda is not a reliable source, as per WP:SPORTSKEEDA, Cric Tracker is a rehashed press release (and the 2 paragraphs about the company looks like something the company has written about themselves), India Today source is just stating how much they paid for a WPL team, as is the BS source (from what I can see, as it's paywalled). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I'm with Joseph2302 on this one. Of late, we have seen some very low quality sources used to demonstrate widespread coverage. I think that is also the case here. AA (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: The company holds various teams across the world. Many times, instead of referring to the brand as ‘Indiawin owned,’ they simply say ‘Mumbai Indians owned’ (the biggest franchise under the brand). This lack of distinction is the reason it didn’t receive enough coverage. Additionally, it is clearly mentioned on the Mumbai Indians website that it is owned by Indiawin Sports. So, if we remove ‘Indiawin Sports’ and need to mention that the franchise is owned by Indiawin, how can we accurately refer to ‘Mumbai Indians’ when it itself is not a standalone brand but rather a franchise within the Indiawin brand? ‎Gorav‎Sharma 08:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the coverage is about the Mumbai Indians cricket team, then it's not coverage about the company. WP:NOTINHERITED applies here- just because the cricket team is notable, that doesn't mean the company that owns them are. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The brand is also notable and came into the limelight after purchasing teams in SLT20 and ILT20. That's why I created the article to simplify everything. The sources I added are trusted sources in the cricket field. Still, if the article goes against Wikipedia policy, I have no problem with its deletion. However, I will still vote to keep this article.
    Have a nice day ahead! ‎Gorav‎Sharma 17:21, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gorav Sharma might be better to make List article, like List of cricket teams owned by Indiawin Sports. S0091 (talk) 17:58, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The available sources include passing mentions, interviews, and profiles, although some lack reliability. Notably, there's insufficient substantial coverage from reputable third-party sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Consequently, it fails to meet the criteria set forth in WP:GNG and WP:BIO. It's crucial to remember that notability isn't inherited, meaning that having notable clients doesn't automatically confer notability. GSS💬 04:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was draftify and merge to the existing draft, which I will carry out now. BD2412 T 03:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominating per WP:NYF. Twinkle1990 (talk) 09:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify‎. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 03:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Failed WP:Artist, also WP:GNG, it has only WP:BLP1E. No in-depth article.Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 14:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - Significant independent regional language news coverage with some articles covering their biography. Article in it's current state is indeed in a bad shape, but a quick search turnsup good coverage from reliable sources. Passes #1, #4, #5, #7, #10 of WP:MUSICBIO. Jim Carter 18:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify. Article isn’t well written and doesn’t help establish notability of the subject, but there may be a case there if the article gets some extra work. Because the sources provided are mostly national to India, the article needs to show somehow that these sources indeed demonstrate national coverage as opposed to local coverage.Contributor892z (talk) 21:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎ without prejudice against early REFUND if SIGCOV is found. Owen× 19:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ashok Attri (diplomat) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Ambassador who doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG. The citations in the article do not appear to pass WP:GNG, and the closest I could find with Google search was this one newspaper article, which looks a bit short and routine. It is my understanding that diplomats/ambassadors do not auto pass WP:NPOL or WP:ANYBIO. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:48, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Leaning keep. I can't find enough for WP:GNG. However, I consider this a pass of WP:ANYBIO#2 because he's going to come up in writings about relations of India with Oman, Denmark, Zambia. And he passes ANYBIO#1 as a recepient of one of Oman's highest civilian honours. Someone's going to write who all have received that award and there, write something about who he is and what he did to get that award. Usedtobecool ☎️ 06:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And he passes ANYBIO#1 as a recepient of one of Oman's highest civilian honours. Got a citation? I don't see it in the article. If Ashok Attri received the Order of Al-Said, I'll withdraw this AFD. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:26, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Novem Linguae, This is what I found. I don't think this is that. That appears to be for heads of states; this appears to be for diplomats. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 06:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Novem Linguae. Ashok received Wisam al-Na'Oman, or The Order of N'Oman per TOI. This is the highest Omani honor for diplomats, which was started by Sulatn Al Qaboos in 1982. You may wish to see Honor's description in this book by Guy Stair Sainty and Rafal Heydel-Mankoo from 2006.
    • World Orders of Knighthood & Merit - Page 1439.
    Maliner (talk) 07:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Attri has served as India's ambassador to Denmark and Oman and a high-ranking member of its missions in Zambia and the US, and took up his last post c. 2010. So it's likely that much of the available sources are a) in Arabic, Danish, Hindi and other Indian languages, and b) in print newspapers. A simple Google search isn't going to find any of that up, and as such I don't think this nomination presents adequate grounds for deletion. Searching just in Danish turns up dozens of sources, especially with regard to the Niels Holck extradition, a diplomatic dispute between Denmark and India in 2011 in which, as the Indian ambassador to Denmark, Attri was obviously a key figure.[18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25] This case was also covered in the English press[26] and doubtless even more so in Hindi and Bengali, but I don't have the language skills to search for those. – Joe (talk) 20:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I don't find any significant coverage in Denmark. How are the above hits about Ashok Attri? I know from Denmark's neighboring country (Norway) that the only foreign ambassadors who attract media attention about their person are those of the US and Israel. Having a key role in an "affair" is an argument for merging with said affair. Receiving orders is common for diplomats. Geschichte (talk) 09:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't say there was significant coverage (there might be, I wasn't really checking). My point was that offline sources and sources in languages other than English are very likely to exist and that, unless those are checked, we can't properly assess the level of coverage. I take the fact that five minutes of searching, in a language that I only have limited proficient in, produced eight additional sources as a strong indication that significant coverage is probably out there.
    A merge would only be appropriate if Attri had a key role in one event. Given the he was an ambassador or high-level diplomat to multiple countries over at least two decades, I find that implausible, but you never know. – Joe (talk) 11:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This whole premise gravitates to "there must be sources out there" and "He's bound to be notable in other languages", both of which do not amount to much. -The Gnome (talk) 18:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 18:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannot find anything of note online. The College may have relatively poor rankings (151/200 according to Collegedunia.com). No indication of interesting history or connections Newhaven lad (talk) 19:13, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find any Independent sources and the subject does not meet WP:NACTOR yet. Rydex64 (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to IDBI Bank. plicit 11:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced, written like a LinkedIn page, can't find anything on Google BrigadierG (talk) 11:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. The delete arguments made their case. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable per WP:NPROF, and does not seem to be meeting WP:GNG. Mentions in secondary source such as Indian Express are running. Also, Chairs/Positions held are non-notable, with multiple department heads/chairs in a single university, mostly on a rotational basis. Publications are journals and chapters(as done by virtually all professors), not full books. Secretary position in said society is below president, and is organisational in nature. User4edits (talk) 13:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It's the Festschrifts that take the article over the line for me. 1c says The publication of an anniversary or memorial journal volume or a Festschrift dedicated to a particular person is usually enough to satisfy Criterion 1, except in the case of publication in vanity, fringe, or non-selective journals or presses. Do you think the two publishers, Concept Publishing and Roopa Prakasana, are vanity / fringe / non-selective? I don't know anything about them. Tacyarg (talk) 15:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concept Publishing certainly resembles a vanity publisher, considering the very wide range of topics it publishes on, including basically illiterate pseudoscientific treatises on homeopathy. I can't tell what's going on with Rupa Prakashana since its "About Us" and "How to Publish" links don't load for me. JoelleJay (talk) 06:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) 🍪 CookieMonster 13:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG. Previous AfD ended in no consensus. DonaldD23 talk to me 13:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominating for deletion under WP: NOTDIRECTORY. The article consists almost entirely of a list of companies that have offices in the complex. The only source about the complex I could find was this, which isn't nearly enough to establish notability. HyperAccelerated (talk) 03:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Per NOTDIR. Draftify might not be a good option since the IT park per se in not notable and I couldn't find any sources with SIGCOV for the park itself. In future, if any notability arises, a draft can be created, but no point in keeping a directory entry of the buildings present in the IT park now, most of which are just uncited non notable OR or random entries. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NFILM Tehonk (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

--->changing to Keep in light of 2nd review (see below).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:09, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • First added link is a press release as it can be seen from from URL structure, writer name as "ANI PR" and the disclaimer at the end: "This story is auto-generated from a syndicated feed. ThePrint holds no responsibility for its content." These press releases can't be used to determine notability. Its "strong box office start" claim also contradicts the second link's "opening: very poor" statement. Tehonk (talk) 19:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, don’t use it, then, and feel free to remove it from the page. It’s a mirror of a link I did not manage to format properly. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC) PS- I took the liberty to do it myself and put the original ANI link mentioning the contradiction you have noted.[reply]

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I'm in favor of deleting per NOTDIRECTORY, apart from insufficient coverage, the "widely distributed" part of the criterion doesn't seem to be met either. Tehonk (talk) 22:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NFILM requires reviews from nationally known film critics and not just any review in any publication. Pankaj Pandey, the author of the text in Raj Express, does not satisfy aforesaid criterion. We still only have about one half of a review-cum-advertorial. -The Gnome (talk) 09:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete While Raj Express is an independent and reliable source that can be used because of its editorial oversight, the other source from Film Information cannot be considered an independent review. It was posted by Film Information desk without any specific author, and these types of posts are generally part of press releases and paid branding. So, this film does not meet WP:NFILM with only one review. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I cannot see why Komal Nahta's FIlm Information should be considered unreliable nor not independent. As for the general assumption that these types of posts are generally part of press releases and paid branding., applying it to the present case does not seem exactly obvious.... just look at the review. If that is a PR data copy-paste, with such PR who needs enemies?:D -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No matter who owns Film Information, but for Indian films, I believe the review should be from a named critic because there are many websites that publish paid reviews and articles. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Which does really not seem to be the case here but thank you for your reply. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: most of the sources are press releases/announcements. ANI is marginally reliable at best and neither article was written by them. One is attributed to SRV which is a digital marketing agency and the other to NewsVoir which is a press release service. I share DreamRimmer's concern about Film Information insofar as there is not a named author and it is not a widely used source so does not appear to meet "nationally known critic" per WP:NFILM. That leaves maybe one critical review which is not enough. No issue with redirecting though. S0091 (talk) 14:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep. The Film Information and Raj Express reviews both look usable to me. In particular Film Information describes itself as "the most widely read film trade magazine in the film industry and is known as the industry’s Bible since 49 years. Founded by late Shri Ramraj Nahta, it is being run by his son, Komal Nahta, since 1993 when Shri Nahta passed away." That is as something at least trying to be a reliable source and not a fan site. Note also that the review is negative enough that it is pretty clear not a paid ad. Also, the Bhaskar.com source looked probably reliable to me as reportage of rather than copying a press release, but I can't read the whole thing. In short I would rate the sources as just over rather than just short of the WP:NFILM line. If there is no consensus to keep the article, a redirect to List_of_Hindi_films_of_2022#October–December is certainly a reasonable ATD. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - non-notable short. The sources are not impressive. Even the better sources fail to establish notability. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The two reviews cited in the discussion appear to be enough. Komal Nahta, the writer of Film Information, appears to be a subject matter expert in film because he is relied upon by RSes, for example: [28] and [29]. Raj Express is an RS that appears to circulate in several major cities in India. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zero secondary sources, no evidence of notability AusLondonder (talk) 17:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure the article is intended to be about the department. It seems to be about a role, it says the Karnataka Forest Service "is awarded to a person who is selected in the KFS exam conducted by Karnataka Public Service Commission" AusLondonder (talk) 11:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, but that's clearly a content issue, and Afd is not cleanup. Brusquedandelion (talk) 07:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You know what, I thought about it and you're right. Not one sentence in the article as written is actually about the department as such; it would be better to nuke it and rewrite. Brusquedandelion (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to Karnataka Forest Department per above. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I have changed my vote. I agree an article should exist for Karnataka Forest Department, but this one isn't even pretend to be about that. Brusquedandelion (talk) 02:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that's what I'm saying. The department itself may very well be notable, but this article is not about the department. It's barely clear what it's about. AusLondonder (talk) 02:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. See my latest reply to your comment. Brusquedandelion (talk) 07:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No proof of notability, no reliable sources that back up claims. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 17:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I fully agree.The overwhelming merit and scholarship of his books and articles have been widely acknowledged.Article on him is very much worthy.His works are in public sphere.Reasons for deletion will amount to travesty of justice to noted original writer and apparently not tenable. JAMKUM (talk) 13:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JAMKUM, if you want this article to be kept, you're going to have to show some good sources. See WP:RS. -- asilvering (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mayadhar Swain a very popular science writer of Odisha for last three decades.His books and articles are of great scholarship and originality.It should be expanded further highlighting his works.It should not be deleted at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.222.186.29 (talk) 11:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Poet doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV thus fails WP:GNG. Macbeejack 12:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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