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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 23:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Liju Prabhakar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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I am concerned that Prabhakar doesn't meet any of the 4 criteria at WP:CREATIVE; I don't think the Kerala State Film Award is enough to pass this on its own. Every single source cited is only a passing mention and the only other source that I could find in my search was this, which is also a passing mention. I am, therefore, concerned about WP:GNG as well. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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I think He meet the criteria WP:CREATIVE . Liju Prabhakar won won 50th Kerala State Film Awards For best colourist and widely cited.[1][2][3]. Liju Prabhakar played a major role in Many great films Including Churuli[4],Chola (film)[5][6],Chase[7],Njan Marykutty[8],Drishyam 2,Happy Wedding. His Work has significant attention in most of the movies that he has worked. So I think this article needed in wikipedia. Thank you Darsana.vinod (talk) 03:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree. All of those are what we call 'passing mentions'. In other words, he is mentioned once along with several other people but none of the sources give him any actual coverage. I will do a full source analysis in a moment. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Source analysis - no WP:SIGCOV found; see below Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete none of the sources provide significant coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Riswan Ali E K (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Largely unverifiable. Not a complete hoax, I think, but hugely exaggerated (or just very hard to verify?). I searched both under "Riswan Ali E K" and "Riswan Ali Edakkavil", but found very few results, and none from reliable independent sources. Fails WP:GNG. Fram (talk) 11:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - largely unverifiable; according to the article, has only played regional level in India and the third tier of UAE so fails WP:NFOOTBALL comprehensively. Lacks coverage in actual reliable sources so I can't see WP:GNG being met either. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 12:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Please don't delete. I have edited the page. Please check. Suhail Azwa (talk) 16:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails NFOOTBALL. Hulatam (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails to pass WP:GNG Padavalam🌂 ► 15:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 03:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Abhishek Raveendran (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Does not appear to meet WP:ACTORBIO and I can't find detailed sources Padavalam🌂 ► 09:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable actor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: No evidence if notability Kichu🐘 Discuss 08:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nitoo Das (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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One line article lacking sources - tagged since 2013. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. External links only to subject's publications, so the article is essentially WP:PROMO. Geoff | Who, me? 00:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Per nom Padavalam🌂 ► 15:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - I looked this individual up and there appears to be some references about her. I really don't think there's enough to get WP:GNG, but I would encourage further digging for someone that has more motivation than me to look. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 03:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Shiyas Kareem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Subject clearly fails. WP:NACTOR. Does not have notable roles in any movies. Other than being a participant of a reality show and in some non notable competitions, there is nothing notable to have an independent article as of now. I also doubt the creator of the article has COI with the subject. Its still unclear whether the subject is having a notable role in Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham. This might also be a case of WP:TOOSOON Kichu🐘 Discuss 05:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC) Kichu🐘 Discuss 05:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete fails WP:NACTOR and a case of WP:TOOSOON. As mentioned by the nominator the creator appear to have a conflict of interested and socking using IP addresses. GSS 💬 14:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NACTOR. WikiShakeshere (talk) 03:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. TheSandDoctor Talk 20:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Imtiaz Ahmed (1990s Jammu and Kashmir cricketer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Fails WP:GNG, nothing in coverage about them. Störm (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete As Per Nom. No RS.-- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 16:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Has played 4 FC and 4 List-A matches, passing him for WP:NCRIC. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - as with a huge range of other AfDs, the correct standard is not WP:GNG, but WP:CRIN which is easily passed by virtue of playing both first class and List A cricket. DevaCat1 (talk) 17:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep played in LA and FC matches, meeting WP:NCRIC. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete there are no reliable sources, which is what all articles need. No complaining about some failed useless standard changes that fact.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Assam cricketers. Daniel (talk) 00:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - WP:GNG is irrelevant here, as he passes WP:CRIN, which is the relevant notability guideline, by virtue of having played in a first class match. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Assam cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete none of the sources provide the significant coverage which is needed to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to List of Assam cricketers. No significant coverage so fails GNG, which trumps the trivial pass of NCRIC, which is by consensus a very weak SNG for cricketers such as this with very few recorded appearances and no consequential contributions. Redirection is an accepted ATD. wjematherplease leave a message... 17:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per parallel discussion, same arguments — Alalch Emis (talk) 20:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 19:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - WP:GNG is irrelevant here, as he passes WP:CRIN, which is the relevant notability guideline, by virtue of having played in a first class match. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches and no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete GNG is always the guideline for inclusion. It is the basic minimum that absolutely every article in Wikipedia needs to meet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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The BLP claims to be of a computer scientist, inventor, and an author. I can't find anything strong enough to satisfy WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR. Quite low h-index of 5 on google scholar. RationalPuff (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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oppose/keep The subject is primarily a computer scientist and inventor with 6 patented technologies with the United States Patent and Trademark Office as follows:
1. Absolute public key cryptographic system and method surviving private-key compromise with other advantages
2. Password self encryption method and system and encryption by keys generated from personal secret information
3. Codeless dynamic websites including general facilities
4. Dynamic Language Text Generation http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=24&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=7721222&OS=7721222&RS=7721222
5. 3d Mouse For Computers https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200089339
6. Defeating solution to phishing attacks through counter challenge authentication
The author profile may not be that strong as per Google Scholar score, I completely agree, but as an inventor Wikipedia should consider the article as patents are granted after due assessment by the USPTO. Regarding general notability, the subject has been highlighted by the leading publications of India and Arab.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-info-tech/new-data-encryption-technique/article1750219.ece http://www.arabnews.com/node/290802
Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Patents are meaningless. Anyone can register a patent, but it's only if it's tested in court that it can be found to be an original, enforceable, idea. And it's only if reliable sources report on that that it can show notability. Computer science has one of the highest citation rates of any field, at least on Google Scholar, but this computer scientist has hardly any citations to his work. As the claim has been made that the article subject has notability in an academic field I will put it on the relevant deletion list. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:40, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Phil Bridger, his patents have been tested in court too. Here are the facts and references:
*Patent 8023647
Here is the list of litigants for patent infringement case (all cases closed):
- Gucci America, Inc.
- VMWare, Inc.
- Hewlett-Parkard Co.
- Foxconn Technology Group
- THG Energy Solutions, LLC
- Siemens Corp.
- Cisco Systems, Inc.
- Raytheon Company
- Lockheed Martin Corporation
- Chipotle Mexican Grill
- AT&T, Inc.
- Texas Freight Services, In
- iReverse Home Loans, LLC
- Cashstar, Inc.
- True Media, LLC
- Startups.co, LLC
- Mainstream Technologies, Inc.
- NC Financial Solutions, LLC
- Verizon Communications
- The Rocket Science Group, LLC d/b/a MailChimp
- Edmunds.com, Inc.
- Marriott International, Inc.
- Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc.
References:
https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/ptab/case/IPR2019-00498 https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/8023647 (under Related Cases, check PTAB (2) and Litigation (23) *Patent 7721222 Litigants in the patent infringement case were:
- Walmart
- Target
All cases closed. Reference: https://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/UniversalCipherLLCvTargetCorporationDocketNo219cv00163EDTexMay072/1?1614374019
Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 22:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. Authoring patents is not a claim of notability (they can only lead to notability if they gain significant outside attention, not in evidence here) and we have nothing else. He has a few publications on Google scholar but with an h-index of 1 and total citation count of 3, so no chance of WP:PROF#C1. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG Dexxtrall (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Being granted patents doesn't imply notability, and as argued above, there's no chance of WP:PROF#C1. The sources provided above are a puff piece and a passing mention, not enough for the GNG. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. XOR'easter (talk) 21:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete h-index of 1, clearly fails WP:PROF#C1, everything said for the patents so no WP:GNG given. CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- One correction here CommanderWaterford David Eppstein, the h-index on Google Scholar is 5 not 1 with 214 citations. In addition, on Microsoft Academics, the number of citations are 234.
- The significance of the patent No 7,721,222 that helps with non-English text generation can be understood from the fact that there is a growing base of non-English computer, or phone users who prefer to engage with their computer or mobile application using Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indian, That, Lao, etc. They do internet searching, authentication, email, chat, wireless messaging, document preparation, online advertisement creation, form filling in e-commerce etc., in non-English languages.
The above patent has received 45 citations from 30 assignees including technology companies like Sony, IBM, Microsoft, and Google.
- The patent 8023647 has 127 Patent citations, 21 Non-patent citations
- As far as GNG is concerned, Wikipedia:Notability (academics) admits that scientists, researchers, philosophers and other scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. The subject has cryptography and other niche-specific articles on Microsoft Academic and Google Scholar and individual scientific journals like:
- International Journal of Computer Science, Engineering and Application (AJCSEA): http://airccse.org/journal/ijcsea/current2020.html
- International Journal on Cryptography and Information Security (IJCIS): https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3767403
- International Journal of Network Security and Its Applications (IJNSA): http://airccse.org/journal/jnsa21_current.html
- Computer Science & Engineering: An International Journal (CSEIJ): http://airccse.org/journal/cseij/vol11.html
Don't you think they establish his notability along with the coverage on leading newspapers like below:
- http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-info-tech/new-data-encryption-technique/article1750219.ece
- http://www.arabnews.com/node/290802
? Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 08:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Patents are not scholarly publications and do not count towards metrics based on scholarly publications (WP:PROF#C1). They are also explicitly listed as not counting towards WP:PROF#C7, academic impact in the outside world. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
David Eppstein thanks for the attention. Even we ignore the scholarly publications, is there no importance of the inventions? Citations of the patents are also an approval of the importance of the inventions. Don't they? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisdomwiki 40 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- 'importance' is subjective. Inclusion in Wikipedia are guided by it's nobility criteria not how we view subject's importance. RationalPuff (talk) 09:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi RationalPuff, if 'importance' is subjective, then members should reconsider the deletion nomination. Here are the usability or impact of the patents:
- Patent 8,023,647 or its encryption technique is used by over 20 companies including Verizon, AT&T, JP Morgan, and Lockheed Martin.
references: https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2019/1/3/universal-cipher-formerly-cumberland-systems-patent-challenged-as-likely-invalid https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/8023647
Patent 7721222 or its Dynamic language text generation system and method has been used with phone and tablet devices. reference: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/walmart-target-sued-over-text-generation-tech-patent
Patent 7,721,222 has been cited by leading tech firms like Sony, IBM, Microsoft, and Google. Patent 8023647 has been used as citations by Apple Inc., Microsoft, Oracle and other significant technology firms.Who is citing the patent is more important than how many have used it as a citation.Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 22:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Requesting members to review the notability evidences shared on this page. I have improved the article also. Hope it is better now. Despite all, if you think deletion is the only way left, please respond to my comments. Waiting for your response.Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 09:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - as has already been pointed out, does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 TT me 16:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment @Wisdomwiki 40: to clarify how Wikipedia works. We consider something important (notable) when other independent, reliable, secondary sources discuss a subject. You link to a lot of patents, but those are primary sources that are not independent of the subject - they tell us nothing about notability. Rather, we need to see magazine, newspapers and books that discuss the person. Those sources need to be independent (ie. not paid for or connected to the subject in some way). Reliable (ie. not self-published and known for editorial control). In-depth (not minor or trivial mentions). Multiple sources. Then we can say, yes, this person is notable because other people have decided independently to write about them. -- GreenC 19:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you User:GreenC what's your thought on citations from the following newspapers-based that are known for quality journalism with unbiased editorial practices:
- http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-info-tech/new-data-encryption-technique/article1750219.ece
- http://www.arabnews.com/node/290802
- https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/walmart-target-sued-over-text-generation-tech-patent
Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 09:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi User:GreenC, XOR'easter, RationalPuff, Onel5969, David Eppstein, TT me, CommanderWaterford, improvements to the page regarding WP:GNG notability done based on citations from independent secondary sources in the print media in multiple languages:
- Al, AALEM (Arabic, Monthly Magazine), February, 2007, Tenth Year, No, 94, Muharram 1428 H
- Arab News (English, Daily Newspaper) - 2006-08-27
- Eenadu (Telugu, Daily Newspaper) 2012-07-27: https://archive.org/details/eenadu-paper-clip-cheman-shaik_202102
Telulgu to English Translation: https://ia601502.us.archive.org/21/items/eenadu-paper-clip-cheman-shaik/Eenadu%20Paperclip%20Tamil%20to%20English%20Translation.pdf Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 20:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- When you are making claims about scientific research/discoveries/invention, tabloids coverage rarely hold water. Do you have any technical/scientific/technological secondary publication that are talking about the subject? RationalPuff (talk) 15:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi RationalPuff, this book places Absolute Public Key Cryptography, one of the inventions, as one of the key crypto techniques. It's already there with ISBN number under Publications section: https://www.routledge.com/Handbook-of-Surveillance-Technologies/Petersen/p/book/9781439873151 Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 16:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- That book does not say anything about this technique being "key", but just mentions it as one of the techniques for which patents have been taken out. It doesn't even mention Cheman Shaik, the subject of this article. Sorry, but you are wasting your time arguing here in the light of the lack of citations to the subject's scholarly work. In general, for a computer scientist, we require many thousands of citations, not less than a handful. Why are you so fixated on this article, given the subject's obvious lack of notability? It is very difficult to avoid thinking that you have a conflict of interest here, and that you have been paid to produce this article. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Phil Bridger, please check this one. https://archive.org/details/handbook-of-surveillance-technologies-absolute-public-key-cryptography/page/n1/mode/2up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisdomwiki 40 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I checked the same thing (hosted at the Google Books site) before I made my last comment. All that link does is to confirm that this book doesn't even mention Cheman Shaik. All that you are doing with your interventions here is to make Shaik look more and more like a patent troll. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Phil Bridger, the author has mentioned the U.S. Patent #708882, I'm reading your patent troll thanks for sharing. Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 18:44, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- You are scraping the barrel and wasting everyone's time here. You need reliable and significant coverage that talks about the subject not about the things the subject might have been associated with. It's not Wikipedia's job to fill the blanks. Moreover, with a few obscure citations this subject is not even close to the nobility threshold. RationalPuff (talk) 18:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I think that this man is probably both important enough and notable enough to have an article. My problem, and I think the problem with searches concerning WP:GNG and WP:Inventor (See Wikipedia:Notability (people)), is that I don't speak a lot of the relevant languages. Indeed, that is a problem of Systemic bias in Wikipedia. I am not criticizing anyone for that; it's a fact. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- He works in the US. If there is relevant local coverage it would be in English. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Which disregards the Arabic and Telugu references that already exist in the article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- The references in the article are claims in newspapers that he has invented something, which newspapers are notorious for believing on the basis of a press release with no support from academic sources. It's pretty obvious from reading the patents that they only consist of gross generalities - something that patent trolls do. I have been accused before of being a dyed-in-the-wool inclusionist, but can see no reason why we should include an article about this person. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- I was not accusing anybody of anything. And you could very well be right. I haven't taken a position. Thanks for your input. OTOH, reasonable minds may differ on the conclusion. YMMV. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- The references in the article are claims in newspapers that he has invented something, which newspapers are notorious for believing on the basis of a press release with no support from academic sources. It's pretty obvious from reading the patents that they only consist of gross generalities - something that patent trolls do. I have been accused before of being a dyed-in-the-wool inclusionist, but can see no reason why we should include an article about this person. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Which disregards the Arabic and Telugu references that already exist in the article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- He works in the US. If there is relevant local coverage it would be in English. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 15:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect per Rugbyfan22 - fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 01:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 15:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect per Rugbyfan22. Only sourced to a statistical database and comprehensively fails WP:GNG, which trumps any sports-related notability guideline. SportingFlyer T·C 23:53, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete GNG is the standard for everything. The cricket notability guidelines are absurd, "first class" matches are too common, and playing in 1 should no more make a person notable than having a significant role in just one notable film makes someone notable. Note that being on the field for a team for part of a game does not mean the player actually did anything significant, so even that comparison is flawed, but if actors and actresses need multiple apperances we should demand the same of sportspeople. Especially since the top sports people have played in way more games than top actors and actresses have been in notable productions. So the one game threshold is just plain absurd.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 00:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 15:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has played 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete GNG is the general notability guidelines so it is always relevant and it is failed here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. No significant coverage so fails GNG, which trumps the trivial pass of NCRIC, which is by consensus a very weak SNG for cricketers such as this with very few recorded appearances. Redirection is an accepted ATD. wjematherplease leave a message... 17:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete (or redirect) per nom and also Rugbyfan22's analogy with WP:FOOTY, which is valid. — Alalch Emis (talk) 20:28, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few appearances but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete GNG = general notability guideline. This applies to all articles. Subject specific guidelines are meant to suggest what articles are likely to pass GNG, but with cricket the current guidelines have been shown to be extremely and woefully inadequate and would be deleted if we did not have a cabal of hard core inclusionists fighting every reasonable and measured attempt to improve the encyclopedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers - this completely fails GNG Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete GNG is general so it applies to all articles. The total failure of it here needs to lead to deletion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers - I strongly disagree with CRIN taking priority over GNG in this case. In fact, by consensus, a trivial passing of CRIN is a weak, weak presumption of notability. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few appearances but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is of no relevance; he has played a first class match and therefore passes WP:CRIN. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, and has a short obituary in Wisden, but not enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no/limited coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to having enough sources to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - WP:GNG is irrelevant here, as he passes WP:CRIN by virtue of having played in a first class match. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Saurashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few appearances and no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - WP:GNG is irrelevant here, as he passes WP:CRIN by virtue of having played in a first class match. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage found. Störm (talk) 16:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - WP:GNG is irrelevant here, as he passes WP:CRIN, which is the relevant notability guideline, by virtue of having played in a first class match. DevaCat1 (talk) 16:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC game, but no coverage. Using a similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few games, but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Per Rugbyfan and Strom, doesnt seem to pass GNG, and have enough third-party sources Totalstgamer (talk) 11:25, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers - no evidence of passing WP:GNG but a decent WP:ATD exists Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the first G in GNG stands for general, which means it is always relevant to articles. All articles must at least pass GNG, SNGs help us distinguish where we do not keep articles when an apparance of minimally passing the GNG exists. Such as with millions of non-notable political candidates who have gotten some minimal coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG, the single first-class appearance doesn't seem to be covered by any substantial source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The subject is a non notable actor who doesn't meet the notability guidelines of WP:NACTOR as he has only played minor roles in a few films. The references are all paid and routine announcement.
- Ref #1 The clarity on the Forbes article is crystal as "brand connect" articles are paid for press and even has a disclaimer at the bottom stating Disclaimer: The views, suggestions and opinions expressed here are the sole responsibility of the experts. No Forbes India journalist was involved in the writing and production of this article.
- Ref #2 Brand content (paid article) with disclaimer at the bottom
- Ref #3 Routine announcement
- Ref #4 Rehashed press release mentioning the subject briefly
So none of these are reliable and independent of the subject. BEFORE shows mentions in passing. Fails WP:GNG as well. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 15:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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Does not have multiple major roles, fails WP:NACTOR. Article was redirect to single major role, but keeps being pushed into full article, so AFD is the only option. Ravensfire (talk) 15:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment - has the involved editor made their COI clear at any point? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- User talk:Ravensfire, There is not only single major role. This article is a stub. So, make other people unravel it. Thank You --Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Vansh tyagi24, Work on it in draft space or ask the article to be userfied. Bluntly, the only significant role I can see is Crime Patrol. Film work - all minor parts. Other television shows listed, none of them are starring/major roles. WP:NACTOR isn't met. Ravensfire (talk) 15:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire, I will working on it and other actors from the same show with not so much significant role even in this show have small wikipedia pages under stub templete. So, Please remove your deletion templete from the Article. --Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 16:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom fails WP:NACTOR. Seems like the creator has a very close relation with the subject, case of COI. Previously i moved Sanjeev tyaagi into draft due to poorly sourced references. DMySon 19:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- I not know this person personally while I am always finds the undeveloped article. Previously work with Mandar Chandwadkar. You can see my contributions. If you see the history of edits of Mandar Chandwadkar then you may also say I know him or mad fan like anything. Please remove all the templetes except stubI and Infobox. --Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 23:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - this person meets neither WP:NACTOR nor WP:GNG so there is no guideline-based reason for keeping this article Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - According to WP:NACTOR, In this article many notable shows with Significant roles is present. So, WP:NACTOR is valid for the Article. In Crime Patrol, Courtroom, Karam Dhram Apna Apna etc he played significant roles. --Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 11:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
KeepComment The reason of this disscusion deletion Article is wrong. Ravensfire said only one role is pushed throughout the Article while In article, his major shows, major movies, Theatre plays, Web films are also Written.--Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 11:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)- :Vansh tyagi24, please only use the keep/delete once so it doesn't look like you are voting twice. For additional comments, use '''Comment''' Ravensfire (talk) 14:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- I improving the page day by day Ravensfire, Please watch article and remove this template Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 19:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - I improved thid article so much. Most of the line have inline citations. I not written only about crime patrol in the Article while written about major shows, movies, Theatre play, Webseries/ webfilms. So, Redirection to single show is a insult of actor.THANK YOU Vansh tyagi24 (talk) 08:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Only one significant acting credit + already draftified once and deleted + clear bias on the part of the creator. Fails WP:GNG.Sunshine1191 (talk) 08:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet the inclusion criteria for actors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers. Daniel (talk) 13:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, nothing in my searches. Störm (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. As with so many other articles incorrectly listed for deletion, passes WP:CRIN by virtue of having played First class cricket. He's listed on CricInfo, in addition to the footnoted reference. DevaCat1 (talk) 12:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Maharashtra cricketers or similar Has played 1 FC match, but no coverage. Using similar precedent to that used by WP:FOOTY when a player has 1 or a few matches but no coverage, they are deleted/redirected. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete clearly fails WP:GNG, which overrides any possible WP:CRIN. No problem with the redirect if an article can be found. SportingFlyer T·C 18:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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A non-notable filmmaker and actor. Hulatam (talk) 12:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Resources does not meet WP:RS. DMySon 19:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teja Tanikella (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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An apparent autobiography on a one-time actor who fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. The closest he gets to passing GNG is the fairly routine coverage of his wedding, already cited in the article. Nothing better found in a WP:BEFORE search. The one film that he starred in seems barely notable itself. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Autobiography of a NN actor mostly sourced to primary and non reliable sources. Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR.--Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 09:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep For The article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teja_Tanikella) the links are provided, So please kindly keep this article. Thank you.
Please find the sources: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
References
- ^ https://www.filmibeat.com/celebs/teja-tanikella.html
- ^ https://www.ragalahari.com/stars/profile/3487/teja-tanikella.aspx
- ^ https://in.bookmyshow.com/person/teja-tanikella/29673
- ^ http://movies.sulekha.com/teja-tanikella_movie-list
- ^ https://www.quicklookfilms.com/people/Teja-Tanikella
- ^ https://www.cinebee.in/teja-tanikella/profile/4808782731280384
- ^ https://chopnews.com/mr-lavangam-movie-cast-crew-and-story/
- ^ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/events/hyderabad/teja-and-divyas-elegant-wedding-soire/articleshow/69663828.cms
- ^ https://www.indiaglitz.com/tanikellas-son-turns-hero-with-mrlavangam-telugu--news-65635
- ^ https://newsjizz.in/11752-the-elegant-wedding-party-of-teja-and-divya.html
- ^ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1579899/
- ^ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6925202/
- ^ https://www.ragalahari.com/localevents/186628/tanikella-bharani-son-maha-teja-bharanis-wedding-photos.aspx
TejaTanikella (talk) 14:40, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- None of those sources even come close to showing significant coverage Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete no indication of nobility. RationalPuff (talk) 16:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails WP:NACTOR and not enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable performer. – Athaenara ✉ 14:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep His movie can be found on IMDB. <ref>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6925202/ Adiv97 (talk) 07:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- — Adiv97 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. SPA created just minutes before adding this vote. RationalPuff (talk) 10:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 07:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No senior fully-pro appearances. Recreated after previous PROD. BlameRuiner (talk) 07:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment - Soccerway says he has played four times in the I-League to date, which is listed at WP:FPL, thus the claim that he fails NFOOTY and has made no senior fully-pro appearances seems to be untrue...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ignore that - I misinterpreted Soccerway's slightly confusing (IMO) interface. I now realise that he has actually been an unused substitute four times -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 20:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete- as per nom,doesn't meet WP:GNG and NFTBL. Not a notable footballer from kashmir(haven't heard of him, although this is my personal POV shouldn't be considered)--Jammumylove (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - might even check this footballer Mohammad Asrar Rehbar if he meets WP:NFOOTBALL/ GNG.-- Jammumylove (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Move to draftspace: This is a clear case of WP:TOOSOON. 11 more games remaining in the season and there is a high chance that this player may make certain appearances in the first team this season itself. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 06:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL currently but it's possible that he will debut in the near future Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete another in a long line of articles that does not meet GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Unable to locate significant coverage in independent, reliable and secondary sources. The article is written like a marketing brochure. M4DU7 (talk) 07:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: An article sourced to a press release, a brief quotation by someone associated with the company, a routine announcement, and user reviews, none of which meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Searches find more press release coverage and this interview but not the coverage needed to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 08:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. She has featured in only one television show, so it's kind of WP:TOOSOON. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 07:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable actor who has mostly played supporting and recurring roles and fails WP:NACTOR. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 07:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable actor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 08:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable actress with a few small roles. Fails WP:NACTOR. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 07:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:GNG is met with the presence of multiple references in publications accepted in WP:ICTFFAQ. Applicant has done roles of note in multiple films with this https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/sruthi-jayan-to-essay-a-key-in-biju-menon-starrer-sathyam-paranja-vishwasikkuvo/articleshow/70074465.cms reference explicitly indicating that her role is a key one, meriting a character poster. Was also noted in Janamaithri where she was probably the female character with the highest screen time. No obvious WP:COI seen in the editor's contributions and therefore this merits a keep. Jupitus Smart 06:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 13:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable singer with no evidence of passing WP:SINGER or WP:GNG. The references are announcement of her music release and cover the subject trivially. She has sung a song in Chhalaang and has received some coverage for the same. However, they lack sufficient depth to meet the criteria. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 06:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Draftify Chances are good that she will be notable soon enough. Put it in draft space and revisit if she becomes star. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 22:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Draftify or Delete per WP:TOOSOON. VocalIndia (talk) 13:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 14:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Appear to be a non-notable company with no significant coverage in reliable sources. I previously proposed this article for deletion but the pord tag was removed by anon so bringing it here. GSS 💬 03:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete I see coverage from the Times of India and other sources, but it appears to be a one-off event about the wave of users that emerged after Indian authorities banned Tiktok. I can't find any other secondary coverage about the topic, at least on the anglophone and sinophone internet. Would propose that the article be deleted and redirected to the 2020 China–India skirmishes Indian response section. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 03:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Added 10-12 reliable sources which are covering other than TikTok ban coverage. This helps for secondary coverage. Sonofstar (talk) 17:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per the high quality sources added by Sonofstar. Mottezen (talk) 06:47, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:ANYBIO - much of the coverage is WP:MILL, routine coverage related to companies: press releases etc, and does not take the subject pass WP:BASIC or the WP:GNG. It should be noted that this article was previously deleted via AfD in September 2020. The article was re-created by the original editor in February 2012 without addressing the issues that it was previously deleted for. Dan arndt (talk) 01:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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I believe that the person is a well-known business personality & deserves to be on Wikipedia as people keep searching for details about him over the internet.Rohitnwi (talk) 05:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete The consensus to delete in September 2020 was based on numerous !voters who failed to find significant coverage that would meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Barring a major notability-conferring event in the last six months (and none is indicated), it's likely that the subject continues to fail to meet those criteria. Per the nom and the arguments in the last AfD, his press coverage continues to be more of the same routine passing mentions. Notability on Wikipedia is rooted in significant coverage by reliable, independent sources, not search frequency. DanCherek (talk) 13:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- delete per dan, and nomination. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Shweta (meme) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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I am wondering if this meme should be deleted. The reason I think so is that it seems to fail the notability guidelines and has BLP1E issues, as I highly doubt that Shweta, and anonymous girl, is going to become a public figure from this event. It is also an embarassment for the subject, and therefore is subject to BLP concerns. It is similar to the Jessi Slaughter and Brian Peppers cases, which were deleted as well. According to the notability guideline in news, "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Steve M (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: People are making fun of her over a leaked audio where she forgot to mute herself on video call while having a conversation with her colleagues. I believe everything should be on this platform but someone's embarrassment should not be shared using this platform. This article fails the notability guidelines as well. TheDreamBoat (talk) 06:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I worked on this article as to actually clarify the readers regarding the subject as I also take blame from myself for not adhering to the BLP policy. I understand that the subject in consideration has been embarrassed in this regard and I agree to delete this article. I created this article since it became one of the internet memes within a short period of time. I also agree that the article only meets WP:1E and WP:BLP1E. Abishe (talk) 08:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- delete per Abishe, and TheDreamBoat. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete This is potentially libel WP:LIBEL. Wikipedia has no place for such things. Take this elsewhere. RationalPuff (talk) 00:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SUSTAINED. This sort of meme will be entirely forgotten in a week. gobonobo + c 12:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Likely to be a transient phenomenon. If there is sustained notability, it might merit a page, but for now, this is nonsense. See WP:SUSTAINED. Ira Leviton (talk) 22:53, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SUSTAINED Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 03:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 20:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Page does not have news article DasSoumik (talk) 17:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- DasSoumik, notability is based on the existence of sources, not the current state of the article, did you have a look at WP:BEFORE ? Google News gave me several articles covering him playing as a professional footballer. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL, from what I can see. I can only seem to find sources about a different player with a similar name, Subash Singh. GiantSnowman 18:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough coverage to pass general notability guidelines. Rondolinda (talk) 23:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete lack of reliable independent resources, fails WP:NFOOTBALL. DMySon 19:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 14:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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This page does not have news article. So I think this page should not be on wikipedia. DasSoumik (talk) 17:32, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- DasSoumik, same here as before mentioned, please make a WP:BEFORE, saw several Google Book Citations of them. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Found citations from Google Books, untranslated news articles, andGoogle Scholar. "I think" does not cut it for deletion. AmericanAir88(talk) 19:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Per AmericanAir88. DMySon 19:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
CommanderWaterford thank you. I'll keep it in my mind.
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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It's just a vanity article. Does not meet WP:GNG. PROD was removed by another editor without an adequate explanation. Likely sock/meatpuppetry involved. RationalPuff (talk) 15:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, I PRODed him. An usual lawyer, no WP:GNG given. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Coverage is week and sources not found on internet so fails notability. TheDreamBoat (talk) 06:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete not in any way a notable person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per the comments above Totalstgamer (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:21, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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I'm concerned that this might not pass WP:NORG, in particular WP:ORGCRIT, which requires significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. In a WP:BEFORE search, I found two sources, Patna Daily and Techstory where there is an actual author and it isn't just a blatant press release written by Utthan themselves. I'm still not convinced that this meets the high bar at NORG and even the two links above look like they might be promotional/sponsored.
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The page is applied for Deleting for adding external links which are linking to promotional contents. Now, the admin has removed the promotional/sponsored links to any other external links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VENKATESHafx (talk • contribs) 12:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Have you got any independent, reliable sources to show that this passes WP:NORG? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing. --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: does not seem to have reliable sourcing, nor is it clear if this is actually an ORG. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Aside from the Free Press Journal Q&A with the founder, my searches found a Patna Daily article about a recent campaign [9] but it is marked as a reader contribution. I am not seeing the coverage needed to demonstrate that this project has attained notability. AllyD (talk) 07:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There are not enough reliable sources which meets WP:GNG. Grailcombs (talk) 16:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable real estate company that fails to meet WP:NCORP. They lack in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. A before search showed this which is a blatant sponsored post / self published. Celestina007 (talk) 22:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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- comment. More news-related sources have been added. Meets WP:NCORP now. Lwaz20 Tpar
- Suvastu Properties – An artist in modern real estate industry
- AMIT CHAKRABORTTY, Chief Marketing Officer, Suvastu properties Ltd.
- Eid fair begins at Suvastu Nazar Valley Shopping Mall (talk) 05:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- It looks like these sources are not suitable for meeting WP:NCORP:
- [1] looks like a promotional source from its wording. There is hardly any original content. Fails wp:independent.
- [2] is an interview, fails wp:independent.
- [3] is not wp:significant coverage of the subject, but routine coverage.
- It looks like these sources are not suitable for meeting WP:NCORP:
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- ^ "Suvastu Properties – An artist in modern real estate industry". The Business Standard. February 24, 2021.
- ^ "AMIT CHAKRABORTTY, Chief Marketing Officer, Suvastu properties Ltd". July 26, 2020. Archived from the original on December 3, 2020. Retrieved February 24, 2021.
- ^ "Eid fair begins at Suvastu Nazar Valley Shopping Mall". The Daily Star. September 17, 2007.
- Delete - absolutely no indication of notability. Fails WP:NCORP. WP:ORGDEPTH and WP:INDY apply. 174.254.192.58 (talk) 06:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Current sources are still not satisfactory per above. ~ Ase1estecharge-paritytime 05:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - the sourcing is below the standard required for WP:NCORP; in particular, WP:ORGIND is completely failed here. Press releases do not establish notability nor do interviews with people working for the company. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR - several guest appearances in television shows, the reality show the article says she is known for she finished 6th, the movie roles are minor parts at best. Not enough to meet WP:GNG either. Ravensfire (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not enough significant acting credits to pass NACTOR. Sunshine1191 (talk) 08:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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I was unable to find any coverage that would establish notability through WP:GNG or WP:NORG. The best sources that I can find are the bare minimum descriptions provided in school directories such as Edugorilla and Schools.org.in. From the sources available, there is nothing to suggest that this school is notable, historic or significant. It is a recently-founded and very small school that has apparently never been subject to any decent media coverage. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Redirect to List of schools in India#Ghaziabad.Junior high schools are not usually notable, and this one appears to be no exception to that rule. The school lacks substantial coverage and therefore fails the GNG.The school is listed in the list of Indian schools article, so a redirect could be useful since it would at least tell the reader where in India the school is located.Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- My only concern with redirecting would be that that list is only for schools with their own stand-alone articles. Once this school is determined to not be notable enough for an article, it will then be removed from the List of schools in India, which would then make the redirect potentially confusing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Count me as a delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- My only concern with redirecting would be that that list is only for schools with their own stand-alone articles. Once this school is determined to not be notable enough for an article, it will then be removed from the List of schools in India, which would then make the redirect potentially confusing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete that this unsourced article on a school that is below the top level of secondary school has existed for 5 years would be a mark against Wikipedia, except we have had unsourced articles sit for over 15 years, so this is nothing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete The article is unsourced and there isn't even the usual trivial news stories about it that a lot of schools have. So, clearly this doesn't pass WP:NORGs standards of notability. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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Appears to fail WP:NORG and WP:GNG; the former requires the school to be the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. During my WP:BEFORE search I could not find any evidence that this school has ever received this kind of coverage and most of the search results were just Wikipedia mirrors. I could not even find trivial news stories that most schools get, such as local papers promoting the school fête or notices of being closed due to COVID. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Go Phightins! 15:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Nothing notable on a WP:BEFORE. PROD was removed because there is a mentioning of the movie in the singer's obituary. The singer performed one or more songs in this movie. I am not sure (yet again, see my previous nomination) how is that supporting the notability of the movie. Thank you, Kolma8 (talk) 12:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:NFILM. A mere mention in an obituary is not enough to establish notability. Donaldd23 (talk) 12:28, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: This is an old film and its hard to find sources. So mere sources must be used for verifying that the movie is notable Kichu🐘 Discuss 06:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: What do we do about this movie failing WP:NFILM and WP:GNG? What WP criteria do you use to support your vote? Kolma8 (talk) 19:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- 'Reply to Kolma8 (talk · contribs): I already left you a message in your talk page two times regarding this question you asked and you havent replied to me that yet. Please kindly ping me if you have anything to ask me here, or else I wont get notified. I already said that if we have any mere source to establish notability (for old movies only), it must be considered. You are simply nominating most of the old movies' article for PROD even if some sources of any kind have been provided. Thats not the way to do it. I also have a concern that you are not following proper WP:Before in most of the cases. Malayalam sources are present for most of these movies. I already rescued 3 articles about malayalam movies that you nominated for AFD. Regarding this case (the source is from The Hindu), I will say weak keep. I only got one source and it says It was for the 1990 film Anantha Vruthantham that he sang. Regards. Kichu🐘 Discuss 07:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Kashmorwiki (talk · contribs) I am really trying to understand how the phrase "It was for the 1990 film Anantha Vruthantham that he sang" in the provided source can support any criteria in WP:NFILM and WP:GNG, but I am afraid I can't. I do agree that all sources should be considered, but as another side of the same coin, not all sources can be accepted. But thank you for your vote. Cheers, Kolma8 (talk) 15:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Happy to userfy in case anyone wants to try to incorporate anything elsewhere, but there's a consensus that the film does not meet our notability guideline. No prejudice against a redirect if warranted. Go Phightins! 23:51, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Nothing notable on a WP:BEFORE. PROD was removed because there is a mentioning of the movie in the director's obituary. I am not sure how that is related to the movie itself. Kolma8 (talk) 12:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:NFILM. A mere mention in an obituary is not enough to establish notability. Donaldd23 (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Agree with the opinion that there is not enough sources to establish notability. But since this is a movie, its practically not possible for some movies to find sources. So sources like this can be considered to establish notability [10]. Also additional inclusionary criteria also says that The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of his/her career. This was one of the notable movies of the director mentioned in the source. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 14:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Kashmorwiki, the sheer fact that there is no available sources supports (or should support) this deletion nomination. It is arrant balderdash to keep an article which fails all the criteria of WP:NFILM and WP:GNG and for which we all agree that there is no sources to support notability. Even many movies from the 1920s, 1950s (to include movies from India) have sources to support their notability and impact on the movie history. Kolma8 (talk) 20:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kolma8, please note my comment.This is the reason why I said weak keep. I know there are not enough sources. RegardsKichu🐘 Discuss 03:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Three of the four sources in the article are database listings with no SIGCOV and the obit is a mention. Notability is not inherited from participants in the film. I couldn't find much of anything other than promos and listings and there are not even many promos. No objection to a redirect to Sasi Shanker, but I do not see sourced content for a merge. // Timothy :: talk 21:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Consensus is that notability is not inherited, and no secondary source coverage crosses the general notability guideline threshold. Go Phightins! 11:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG. Notability is not inherited. Onel5969 TT me 04:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Oaktree b (talk) 01:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Please tell me the reason for adding this article in deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srimant ROSHAN (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete an illegitmate child of a fairly minor ruler. He also died at age 9. This is not the stuff notability is made of.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I am not added the word (illegitimate son) in this article because Raja Karna was one of the legitimate son of Rajaram Maharaj . Because he was born from unknown women who was married with Rajaram Maharaj at Jinji fort.That is why you cannot say it is illegitimate son of great Rajaram Maharaj. There is a word (wedlock )I copyed this word from Rajaram Maharaj Wikipedia article. I don't know the meaning of wedlock therefore I am sorry . Srimant ROSHAN (talk) 10:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Notability is not inherited. He was not a Prince with legimate title or status. VocalIndia (talk) 13:13, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
According readed records by me he is the legitimate son of Rajaram 1. Srimant ROSHAN (talk) 07:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NPOL and appears to have been written by a relative. The Sources are 1) a non-specific citing of land records by the regional government; 2) the Proceedings of the Indian Science Congress (1952), which is in relation to his brother (Bulusu Jaganadha Sastry; who's notability is also not clear) being a member of the Indian Science Congress and even that is just listing him as a member; 3) is his grandson's (and apparently the author of this article's) Mahindra University faculty profile; and 4) a non-specific citing of the subject's death certificate GPL93 (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Notability is not inherited. Zoozaz1 talk 19:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see any grounds for a claim of notability. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Somewhat snowy. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable primary school. Onel5969 TT me 15:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable primary school.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Aside from having a comma at the end of the article title (???) and being created by an SPI, utterly utterly unnotable. ser! (chat to me). 17:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails NORG. JavaHurricane 18:34, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per Ser!. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 14:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- delete a non-notable school that fails WP:NORG, as well as WP:GNG. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Snow delete This is clearly not a notable school from the research I did and the delete votes of other. Since I don't see that changing I suggest it be snow deleted. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not a notable school, hardly any RS’s.-- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 16:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Failed to establish WP:GNG Padavalam🌂 ► 15:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable player, has not won any major contests. — Amkgp 💬 15:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable darts player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:57, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not pass general notability for Biography. Reliable sources are weak.TheDreamBoat (talk) 09:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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not sure how this guy meets NPOL, aside from the fact that "State Co Convenor" doesn't appear to be an elected position, he basically runs the IT & social media of a party, which is also not an elected position, just a standard office type job. There's no coverage to meet GNG either. CUPIDICAE💕 14:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Quite small and not notable at all. The account that made this article itself is called ankitchandelbjp, smells like WP:Coi, but can't be sure. Regardless, sources mentioned are no very well known, they also don't cover the person-in-question. The information provided is also not notable, again. Even googling the person in question hasn't shown any new information about the person. In my opinion enough coverage of the subject does not exist, stringent mentions of independent and well-known sources per WP:BLP is not shown. No other option than to delete. SenatorLEVI 15:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 15:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - unelected politician; fails WP:NPOL and little if any, coverage. Eagleash (talk) 18:02, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable party functionary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete IT/social media guy for a political party is not notable. Oaktree b (talk) 19:55, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - smells badly of COI and I could find no evidence of significant coverage in sources independent of the subject Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Biography notability guidelines not meet & notable reliable sources not found. TheDreamBoat (talk) 21:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Smells like WP:COI, barely any coverage as well as independent articles about the person. SenatorLEVI 04:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete falls well short of NPOL. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete no indication of nobility. vanity article. RationalPuff (talk) 15:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 00:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fail WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. Collection of trivia The Banner talk 14:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep has some good WP:RS. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 16:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep, seems to meet WP:GNG, per the cited sources. SailingInABathTub (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: The references here are good in comparison with other similar articles from the navigation table that have not been deleted. ~ Ase1estecharge-paritytime 11:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 22:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Has been deleted via BLP PROD and speedy deletion recently (A7 and G5). Still appears to be a non-notable child actress. I can confirm that she is in Abhiyum Naanum listed as supporting cast. I can confirm that she is in Senthoora Poove as well but no indication that the role is a major one so I can't see that WP:NACTOR can be met. I'm not finding enough evidence of a WP:GNG pass in a WP:BEFORE search either, still. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Does not meet WP:NACTOR Ravensfire (talk) 14:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Notable reliable sources not found and as a child actor she is not found in major roles. TheDreamBoat (talk) 21:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Vanity article; too soon. RationalPuff (talk) 23:28, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails in meeting WP:NACTOR. Hulatam (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Giriprasad Damodar 02. DMacks (talk) 16:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- delete per DMacks. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 02:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The article has a link to the book as its only source. I've found it hard to find secondary coverage online. If one searches for the book's name together with its author's, some results appear though apparently nothing that would amount to significant coverage. So, the book doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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I think so the page should be kept because information on Jainism and Science has very less sources on internet.. in order to promote the information about Jainism and science to public it should be kept...Rishabh.rsd (talk) 11:16, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NBOOK. Whatever the intrinsic interest of the subject matter might be, Wikipedia isn't the place to write about books that haven't had a documentable influence elsewhere first. XOR'easter (talk) 17:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The topic of Jainism and science may be notable, but this book doesn't inherit that notability (WP:NOTINHERITED) and I can't find substantial coverage in places that Wikipedia would consider reliable. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 05:32, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Barely any coverage(WP:NBOOK) the only source this page has from the book itself and its poorly written. Niger banda (talk) 08:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 09:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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This page appears to have been created one of the close associates of the subject. The life section doesn't cite any source (where does information comes from?) and the editor's name resembles with the subject's name. Moreover, the subject's notability is questionable. Please see WP:POLITICIAN. If the page is kept for notability, then every person in India will probably have their own Wikipedia page by the end of 2030. District Development Council members are non notable and its chairperson is headed by an additional district development commissioner (Additional D. C.) which is itself a non notable post. The author has recently changed their username[11] after the article's take page was updated and to bypass COI.
There are currently 280 members in Jammu and Kashmir, including 20 chairpersons. Does it mean we should create Wikipedia pages for each family member of the Jammu and Kashmir.? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment he’s chairperson of Kulgam DDC, and DDC was recently held, don’t know if DDC elected person meets NPOLITICIAN, if it meets then Keep otherwise Delete.-- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 16:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable party functionary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. This appears to have been a bad faith nomination and the sockpuppetry is disregarded. I am not sure what policy/guideline based argument is made by the remaining delete !vote but as it has been demonstrated and agreed that there is sourcing that meets GNG the result is keep. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 03:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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promotion of esports and paid press release PanunKoshurBoi (talk) 03:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sardar Nadir Ali
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- Comment I'm not sure I follow the deletion argument. This appears to be a referenced article about an esports league. It's had a bit of suspicious editing activity, but even ignoring banned users, it seems to have been edited by a number of people, and is referenced to news articles from different sources. What am I missing? ApLundell (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- ApLundell, you're missing the "rivalry game" played by these new accounts. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 08:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh. I see now. Children fighting.
- KEEP. ApLundell (talk) 05:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- ApLundell, you're missing the "rivalry game" played by these new accounts. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 08:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete there is no reliable source that show this eSports is qualifying for wikipedia SavingWikiFromSpaming (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- SavingWikiFromSpaming was a block-evading sockpuppet of TheRedReaper, who had been indefinitely blocked at 15:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- — SavingWikiFromSpaming (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Keep -- Stalwart's cross-border collaboration project was covered by Vice, Dot Esports, and The Indian Express. There's also this in the Economic Times and this in the Esports Observer, which WP:VG considers reliable. I wouldn't rely on the AFK Gaming site for notability, but I don't think this article needs to. I'm also pretty confident that users like SavingWikiFromSpaming aren't exactly operating in good faith, as their only edits are to !vote delete on esports AfDs and file spurious SPIs. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per significant coverage in multiple, reliable and independent sources, as indicated by Alyo. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 02:30, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete News article don’t show the significance of a team. A team should win or participate in a notable competition. If i only create a team and post some news article it is not shows a good thing. This thing may only created for social handle verification. Wikipedia should not promote this unimportant objects. Wikipedia is like a mirror for world which gives us real history about our past and present. Please do the appropriate thing it deserve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.161 (talk) 03:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- You seem to be on a crusade against Zeyan Shafiq – see IP range 03.127.95.160–163's contribution history.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Very clear consensus in favour of article deletion at this time with no dissenting opinions. Given this and that the discussion has ran its full 7-day course, I am going to go ahead and close this in favour of deletion. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Does not pass WP:NPOL; did stand for election in Sabroom in 2008 but was not successful. He has not received enough coverage to pass WP:GNG either. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete, per nominator's reasoning. Herbfur (Eric, He/Him) (talk) 20:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as clearly fails both NPOL and GNG JW 1961 Talk 20:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. People are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just for standing as candidates in elections they did not win, but nothing here even tries to suggest that he has any preexisting notability for other reasons independently of an unsuccessful candidacy. Bearcat (talk) 05:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable, and by some margin. The creator is a new editor (so says their user page) and probably needs a bit of guidance and latitude, so I could live with draftifying if there are proper sources available that just haven't been added (although I doubt it). --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete falls well short of both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - searches did not turn up enough in depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't meet WP:NPOL. Onel5969 TT me 22:09, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. per nom. --Devokewater 10:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 14:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ancharakalyanam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Nothing notable on a WP:BEFORE. Prod was removed, because there is a mentioning of the movie as "Shiyas' films include Mayavi, Onnaman, Dubai, Junior Mandrake, Amar Akbar Anthony, Ancharakalyanam etc." [12]. I personally don't see how it passes as a "significant" mentioning. Thank you, Kolma8 (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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- As I mentioned the prod was removed as the film is mentioned in Shiyas' obituary as above. Kolma8 (talk) 19:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NFILM. A mere mention in an obituary is not enough to establish notability. Donaldd23 (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. I didn't found sufficient coverage that makes him a notable. Rondolinda (talk) 23:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to passing GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:22, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBIO per nom. Shankargb (talk) 13:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Disregarding non-policy-based !keep votes, clear consensus exists. David Eppstein's comment is the most persuasive in terms of policy arguments. Daniel (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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No indication of nobility. Fails WP:NPROF, WP:GNG, WP:RS RationalPuff (talk) 09:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, h-index of 2, no coverage found. CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep he is Dean school of law of eminent Central University of Haryana in India. He is a notable person. Indiandeanslaw (talk) 10:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. Dean is not a high-enough administrative position to pass WP:PROF#C6, and the Central University of Haryana at which he works is a new university with an enrollment lower than many US High Schools, unlikely to be considered a "major academic institution". His name is common enough that I had trouble finding his publications in Google Scholar among the ones by the chemical engineer and library automation researcher with the same names; both of them had too-low citations for WP:PROF#C1 and this one's must be even lower. There could plausibly be a case for WP:AUTHOR but for that we'd need multiple published reviews of his books, not in evidence. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, basically per David Eppstein. Being a Dean is certainly not enough for passing WP:PROF#C6. Citability is quite low and there is no indication that his books made a significant impact. Does not pass WP:PROF. Nsk92 (talk) 01:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep He is author and has been a member of the committee for taking policy making decision for whole India at National level deputed by apex body University Grants Commission of India. His contribution was remarkable.Mamtakuhu20 (talk) 16:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Being an author is not, in and of itself, indicative of notability. We would need proof (e.g. published reviews of his books) that his work has made significant impact. Committee work of the type you mention is not unusual for academics either. If his contributions there were indeed, "remarkable", as you say (and how do you know that?), we would need verifiable evidence from independent reliable sources regarding that. Nsk92 (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep "remarkable" In India it was a remarkable policy decision for education in India and may be verified from University Grants Commission (India) report given in reference of Rajesh Kumar Malik page.HariSinghw (talk) 02:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - David Eppstein's assessment of the notability of his position is most persuasive. And fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 00:56, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Does not pass WP:PROF. scope_creepTalk 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy KeepHe is professor of law and a person become only after his or her remarkable contribution and He is Dean also of a Central University of Haryana in India. His contribution as a committee member of National level is notable.HariSinghw (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have struck this duplicate !vote since the same user has already cast a 'Speedy Keep' !vote above. Nsk92 (talk) 00:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 05:48, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Nothing in coverage, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 00:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Soft keep Madya Pradesh is part of the first class domestic cricket league in India. If Singh did play for them (need some proof), that would provide notability per WP:NCRICK. Rogermx (talk)
- Keep Played in multiple matches for MP across all three formats. This match report states a "clinical bowling performance" led by him. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete We have no sources that pass GNG. It is time we actually start holding articles to GNG and verrifiability which are both failed here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Per ESPN CricInfo, played in 2 first class matches and 2 list A matches. Per WP:CRIN that automatically confers notability. Störm's reference to WP:GNG is therefore irrelevant, as the article's notability is not determined by GNG DevaCat1 (talk) 20:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Has played 2 FC, 2 List-A and 4 T20 matches, passing him for WP:NCRIC. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - Multiple appearances in first-class matches, List-A, and T-20s so passes WP:NCRICKET. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. There is some thought of merging here that can be pursued, though it is unclear what material would be merged is acute. That can be resolved outside of this discussion, probably. I am happy to userfy a copy of this article or move it to draft-space if someone wants to pursue a merger. Go Phightins! 11:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 19:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Suggest a project to destub all schools in UP: Then possibly merge. Saying Fails GNG is very tidy- but we we need to explain why. I have added a wl to Roman Catholic Diocese of Lucknow which is totally underdeveloped- it reminds me of the articles we were proud to add fifteen years ago. It could be the target for a merge. Para one looks like it has been transcribed from a notable source as part of a batch but unsourced. Para 2 looks like a personal memory but suggests this school has over 500 pupils- so sources could be found. I suspect researching this one school, is going to be a similar process to reseaching other UP schools, so a more global approach to problems could be be more productive. ClemRutter (talk) 10:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete This article has sat for 14 years with no sources at all, which is a very clear violation of our verifiability rules. A quick google search turned up no reliable sources at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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- delete per JPL. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: I not convinced to take action with any of the discussion points except ClemRutter's, so I am relisting in the hope of getting more detailed arguments.
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- Delete: no SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth; subject fails GNG and ORGCRIT. No sources in article to check, BEFORE showed database listings type entries and nothing more. We often redirect to an appropriate target, I have no objection to a redirect to Roman Catholic Diocese of Lucknow if there is support for this, but the article has no properly sourced content for a merge and I oppose merging unsourced content. // Timothy :: talk 07:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 11:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable Indian film production company, established in 2020. Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:10, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: Bbarmadillo Anything on WP:BEFORE? I was able to find only one ref. [13], which is not enough to pass WP:CORP in my opinion. Kolma8 (talk) 20:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify: Might be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Kichu🐘 Discuss 08:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: A WP:COI article promoting a new company which is about to make its first short film, with particularly promotional text added by IP in between the edits by Actor Ijaaz Ebrahim. The several newspaper items say little more than that the company intends to make its first film, and fall under announcement-based trivial coverage at WP:CORPDEPTH. Fails WP:NCORP. AllyD (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 12:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG or any relevant criteria. Sources cited in the article discuss the subject specifically in the context of his death and there is no coverage outside that. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 07:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails GNG and NBIO. -Cupper52Discuss! 10:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Joyalukkas. Daniel (talk) 23:56, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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A non notable company coming under the parent group Joyalukkas. Sources give are mainly covering about the parent company. I did a WP:Before and could not find anything other than some ads. The article clearly fails WP:COMPANY and written for promotional/advertising purpose. The author only created his user account for the creation of this article and removed the PROD tag without proper explanation. Should be merged with the parent company article Joyalukkas. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 07:11, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete or redirect to Joyalukkas: The article content is largely about the Group as are the references and searche results about projects under this subsidiary. No evidence of distinct notability. AllyD (talk) 10:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. I'm discounting the unsourced allegations of wrongdoing by the IP, which in any case would not establish notability. Sandstein 11:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable organization that fails to satisfy WP:NCORP as they lack in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources. A before search links me predominantly to primary sources which we do not consider as reliable. The REF-BOMBING is merely a mirage to induce a sense of notability. Celestina007 (talk) 22:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - likely paid-for spam, creator blocked for spamming. My gut says this is a sock-created article but am not confident to push the delete button. MER-C 16:10, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly a corporate stooge sock puppet, but company's tech was bought by Cisco, and they partner with other major data companies. Notability in sourcing might not be there, but company clearly works with shady companies and uses large amounts of consumer data, and their presence and NSA connections should be exposed. 24.237.27.195 (talk) 18:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- If sourcing isn’t present then the article isn’t notable. See WP:NCORP. Celestina007 (talk) 19:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- I completely agree - I think it's an absolute shame companies can hide behind WP:NCORP as a way to conceal their activities and connections, especially those involved in massive data breaches with obvious concerns to the greater public - which Salesforce went out of their way not to notify anyone about, because of course they did.[1] I'd be interested to know if anyone involved in this page has any COI they'd like to disclose - I don't see why we're so eager to employ extremely broad guidelines to provide cover for the companies sharing access to all our private information (one of many reasons I'm not using my normal account for this discussion). 24.237.27.195 (talk) 20:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- If sourcing isn’t present then the article isn’t notable. See WP:NCORP. Celestina007 (talk) 19:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) EN-Jungwon 05:59, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. No source cited Jenyire2 20:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect to 2021 Indian Premier League until all season details are confirmed. Nate • (chatter) 22:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Notable reliable sources not found about Cricket Player auction bidding price for 2021 IPL.TheDreamBoat (talk) 05:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is updated Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 02:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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comment , The article is already updated till the date. The tournament will start on April 9. This article should be keep Mr.Mani Raj Paul - talk 09:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is updated--Ts12rAc (talk) 06:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is well updated and the season details was already published.(Fade258 (talk) 04:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC))
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 10:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable actor who doesn’t satisfy WP:NACTOR as she hasn’t won any prestigious awards neither has she taken up significant roles in the movies she has featured in, generally, a before search shows she lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of her, thus this is also a GNG fail Celestina007 (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep: My WP:BEFORE gave me 79 results only in Google News, several mentions in Times of India, Film Critics etc., meets WP:GNG CommanderWaterford (talk) 06:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment — @CommanderWaterford, please see WP:SIGN & do so each time you make a comment for the sake of clarity(please do so immediately) Furthermore, I’m afraid your knowledge of policy pertaining to notability might be inadequate & I do not believe you possess sufficient knowledge on WP:GNG. The number of sources google news popped up isn’t relevant but what matters is the quality of those sources. Mere mentions do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV thus such sources are of zero relevance to WP:GNG which requires in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Furthermore per WP:NACTOR she doesn’t meet the threshold as no criterion is satisfied as she is yet to be featured in lead roles neither has she won prestigious awards for actors. Celestina007 (talk) 23:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete non notable actor with no major roles. There is no significant coverage in RS.Ruqayya ansari (talk) 12:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails the threshold of multiple significant roles in notable productions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - lacks significant coverage from reliable sources addressing her directly and in depth, does not meet WP:GNG; Celestina is correct Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Covert advertising from a blocked sockpuppet account. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Delete A piece of advertisement. references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Timberlack (talk) 05:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)- @Timberlack: I would invite you to reconsider your reasoning. There are several references on the article with extensive coverage of the subject. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Timberlack: As per your contrib history, you've been commenting on indian businessmen related AFD's, within 9 minutes you passed comments on 3 AFD's, Can you share how did you check the references so quickly? Hums4r (Let's Talk) 06:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Blocked for WP:UPE. MER-C 13:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Can you name the blocked sockpuppet account and point out the covert advertising? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, AfD nominator here. The article was published on 12 January by Zeyan, a blocked sockpuppet of Hums4r. The concern regarding covert advertising is for the company KashBook and Stalwart Esports. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Again MrsSnoozyTurtle, I’ve already clarified the part of using “Zeyan” account to publish it on the SPI page, moreover it was not published, they moved it back to draft space and then the page was edited and published by Fences and windows, you should perhaps have a look at the edit history, also point out the part that looked as “covert advertisement” to you, i am very interested in learning about it and removing it, since i was the major contributor to this article.Hums4r (Let's Talk) 22:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello MrsSnoozyTurtle. I see your concern about advertising, but I'm not sure what the solution is if the subjects pass WP:GNG and the articles are written neutrally. You would have a point if Stalwart eSports is not notable; Zeyan Shafiq would then only be notable for a single event (founding KashBook) and the article would have to be rewritten to focus on the event (i.e. "Founding of KashBook") rather than Shafiq. But as I mentioned, this depends on Stalwart eSports not being notable (and would be grounds for an AfD on that article too). Are you suggesting that? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 07:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Again MrsSnoozyTurtle, I’ve already clarified the part of using “Zeyan” account to publish it on the SPI page, moreover it was not published, they moved it back to draft space and then the page was edited and published by Fences and windows, you should perhaps have a look at the edit history, also point out the part that looked as “covert advertisement” to you, i am very interested in learning about it and removing it, since i was the major contributor to this article.Hums4r (Let's Talk) 22:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, AfD nominator here. The article was published on 12 January by Zeyan, a blocked sockpuppet of Hums4r. The concern regarding covert advertising is for the company KashBook and Stalwart Esports. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Since i have a COI, i won't suggest to keep or delete, i would just mention this comment. The Article was written by me and then reviewed by experienced wikipedians like Fences and windows, TheAafi, Kohlrabi Pickle and many more, the article was properly check and reviewed and was even posted to 'DYK' section. There has been a discussion earlier regarding the references as well and they were reliable as per wikipedia policies. I don't see 'Covert advertising from a blocked sockpuppet account' on this article because i've been a major contributor to this and apart from me all other editors who have edited this aren't sockpuppets/ blocked.Hums4r (Let's Talk) 06:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think it carries much weight if it was published by your account, Hums4r, rather than that of your sock account Zeyan. Especially since the Hums4r account has now been blocked as the sockmaster. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Keep This article wasn't created by Zeyan, rather by Hums4r; see diff. Hums4r also appears to be major contributor of this article, and he is not blocked as a sockpuppet. The AfD nomination rationale is vague and not a valid reason. This article would remain because it merits a standalone article. ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)We may say for a while, Zeyan account was compromised, "but nonetheless this account was only used to move the article from draftspace to mainspace, and that action was subsequently reverted". This article has been moved to mainspace through the procedural process of AfC. ─ The Aafī (talk) 09:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)This is nothing but a bad-faith AfD! ─ The Aafī (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
changing to Keep: Per significant coverage that we find in a number of sources available in the article. Note: I've struck my earlier speedy keep comment after Hums4r's global block. ─ The Aafī (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Then please amend your comment instead of double voting. CUPIDICAE💕 19:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly a piece of promotion and advertisement. References do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Even the details provided about subject are baseless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HACKER KASH (talk • contribs) 13:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- HACKER KASH is a sockpuppet account - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sardar Nadir Ali
- Keep. I edited the draft after it was raised on a noticeboard to ensure it was neutral and based in reliable sources and then I moved it live. I'm confident with subject is notable for more than one thing - starting KashBook and Stalwart eSports - and that the article is not unduly promotional. The coverage is indepth, specifically about the subject and in multiple independent reliable sources, mainly from India. The blocked account, which may be the article subject's, has not been identified as a sockmaster or sockpuppet for the article creator, who disclosed contacting the subject to get a photo - AfD is not SPI, so this is the wrong venue. p.s. I've been mentoring the article creator since then. Fences&Windows 13:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fences and windows, I do not get any indication from the sources that they are independent and reliable. Ultimately, all but one of the secondary sources appear to be part of a PR campaign. Each article essentially parrots the others, with all being published (for the most part) days apart. Perryprog (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sources being similar doesn't necessarily mean it's a PR campaign; Indian press seems to copy each other even more than do Western media. These are the earliest sources I can find: [14][15][16]. KashBook then fell apart a few months later through jealousy and squabbling: [17], a source I'd missed before now. Fences&Windows 19:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fences and windows, I do not get any indication from the sources that they are independent and reliable. Ultimately, all but one of the secondary sources appear to be part of a PR campaign. Each article essentially parrots the others, with all being published (for the most part) days apart. Perryprog (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment If the Stalwart esports is an international gaming organization, why it is not registered? and Kashbook isn't working also because that was also the act of Anti National activity. HACKER KASH http://www.catchnews.com/science-technology/kashmir-s-social-network-kashbook-is-no-more-and-not-because-of-the-government-76694.html— Preceding unsigned comment added by HACKER KASH (talk • contribs) 14:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- HACKER KASH is a sockpuppet account - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sardar Nadir Ali
- We've discussed the same here, kindly read this fully to understand. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zeyan_Shafiq#This_page_must_be_deleted. Hope it helps, also sign your comments. Hums4r (Let's Talk) 14:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- HACKER KASH, whether Kashbook is still operational is irrelevant, because notability is not temporary. Whether Stalwart is "official" or not is also irrelevant - we use reliable sources to inform our inclusion decision, not such personal decisions about merit.
- Note to closing admin, I suspect some Kashmiri rivalry is affecting these !votes. Fences&Windows 16:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fences and windows, I suspect a similar thing. ─ The Aafī (talk) 16:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that some of the votes are probably being influenced by rivalry, because their reasoning is suspect. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete: The article seems like a promotional one. Even though the subject has been covered, it clearly fails to the relevance of existing an an independent articleMe and Hums4r discussed this on my talk page and I have changed my mind. RegardsKichu🐘 Discuss 09:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: Its now only that I only noticed Hums4r was just a sock account. So I had a detailed study on this person Zeyan. He even shared this wikipedia article on social media for promotional purpose. So I would like to strongly stand with my early opinion. 'Delete Kichu🐘 Discuss 06:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Kashmorwiki: Wikipedia considers the Hums4r account to be a sockmaster – the Shahzada Iqbal, Zeyan and Prakrutiprajapanti accounts are considered to be sockpuppets – see WP:SPI/Hums4r/archive and block log.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
*Keep. The reason for nomination isn't clear, but in any event, I don't see anything that can't be fixed with a little rewriting. Certainly nothing that warrants WP:TNT. Separately, a couple of other editors have suggested that the subject doesn't meet WP:GNG without explanation or reference to the several independent news articles that profile him in depth. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete or mergeMerge into KashBook. On further reflection, I am modifying my vote. I have been uncomfortable with how, despite the subject ostensibly passing GNG, the article reads so promotionally. I don't think the articles were paid for, but they have a human interest element to them (a precocious Kashmiri teenager creating something techy to work around a ban by the big bad government in Delhi). KashBook is not a revolutionary piece of software, nor did it take Kashmir by storm (it was in the top 22 social media platforms in the valley alone - very far from the top), and Stalwart Esports are not some wunderkind team. Both of them derive their notability from the circumstances in which they were created. I think the repeated wording (which Perryprog references in their vote) is a sign of poor journalism, not payment – I've encountered the same in sources for other India/Pakistan related articles I've contributed to – and it indicates that they've all copied off of each other. But this is good enough reason for me to doubt that these articles generate notability value. I'm also uncomfortable with how the subject is openly using the Wikipedia page for self-promotion on his social media platforms. People who pass GNG on their own are seldom bothered by whether or not they have a Wikipedia article. I am not persuaded that he is notable yet. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 01:28, 22 February 2021 (UTC) Amended vote from "Delete or merge into KashBook" to "Merge into KashBook" on 00:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- There is no article on KashBook to merge into.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- I had expected that one of the original contributors to this article would have created one by now... but if not, then I am happy for it to be deleted or draftified and rewritten as an article on KashBook. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 09:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Two of the deletion votes claim that references in third-party sources are just passing mentions. I checked four of the third-party citations and all of them were significant coverage.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Whilst this deletion debate has been going on, the article has been expanded and improved. There are enough citations to good quality independent sources that an editor could even remove two of them on the grounds of WP:CITETRIM, and he/she was probably right to do so.
- There have been dubious editors on both sides of the AFD debate; some of these have been blocked for sock/meat puppetry. Personally I wish a checkuser could be run on every account/IP address that participated in this AFD, as I am sure it would catch a few more. In addition, there is an editor on each side whose activity on Wikipedia consists mainly of participating in AFDs or editing articles subject to AFDs. The pro-deletion sockpuppets argued that there was no evidence of not significant coverage; this was untruthful. There is an argument that Shafiq's companies used press releases - and the Indian/Pakistan press used these to write articles (just like Western newspapers use press releases from government organisations and from companies). There is nothing wrong with the press receiving press releases, doing some fact checking and then using information from the press releases.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Toddy1
Personally I wish a checkuser could be run on every account/IP address that participated in this AFD, as I am sure it would catch a few more.
this is pretty gross and egregious and I'd expect an editor of your tenure to WP:AGF. The implication here that anyone beyond blocked sock puppets are participating in some nefarious game is pretty disgusting on all counts. CUPIDICAE💕 21:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Toddy1
- There have been dubious editors on both sides of the AFD debate; some of these have been blocked for sock/meat puppetry. Personally I wish a checkuser could be run on every account/IP address that participated in this AFD, as I am sure it would catch a few more. In addition, there is an editor on each side whose activity on Wikipedia consists mainly of participating in AFDs or editing articles subject to AFDs. The pro-deletion sockpuppets argued that there was no evidence of not significant coverage; this was untruthful. There is an argument that Shafiq's companies used press releases - and the Indian/Pakistan press used these to write articles (just like Western newspapers use press releases from government organisations and from companies). There is nothing wrong with the press receiving press releases, doing some fact checking and then using information from the press releases.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Strongly supporting the the comment of TheAafi. –Kammil ⟨talk⟩ 05:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I strongly support to keep this article live as the subject is covered in various reliable sources. The article was even on DYK section. An article that was in the Main page section of Wikipedia must be enough notable, as it made its way there, I wonder why is this discussion going on. I also came across a delete comment from a user who forgot to sign the comment. Peerzada Mohammad Iflaq (talk) 08:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Must be deleted. I strongly support to delete this article . Because it like to be promotional. I follow up this person and find he use this wiki page for verifying social media. Is a simple thing is notable for news reference? Beside wikipedia should not promote any thing like that, which break countries law. . Do something by keeping national thing first.Some person acted like they connect to this article in any condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.163 (talk) 13:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)- What is your account name? On 17 February, you were canvassing for people to get this article deleted.[18][19] -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Just a note that Hums4r has been globally locked for xwiki spamming on multiple accounts. CUPIDICAE💕 17:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Most indicative thing here is the wording repeated across multiple sources, which makes me think they were PR-campaigned articles—every single source that was published in 2017 seems to be a part of this. Just look at how many have incredibly similarly worded paragraphs on how they "learnt HTML tags by himself at the age of 11". The rest of the articles look similarly spammy, often with dubious red flags like image credits being from "special arrangement". The only source that could really possibly be considered reliable would be to Vice and Business Insider, neither of which are terrible good. The BI article also looks to be a part of the PR campaign due to its content. I'd encourage the participants to throughly read through some of the sources listed, as they all appear to be very sub-par. Perryprog (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per my several previous analysis of the sources - this is a stellar PR job, but ultimately unencyclopedic as it's not organic coverage (it's paid for) and are regurgitated press releases and user submissions to shady media outlets. CUPIDICAE💕 19:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sure Shafiq is promoting himself, but so do many other people. If India Today, The Economic Times, The Times of India,[20] The Nation (Pakistan), Vice India, and Ravi Agrawal are all shady sources that publish for pay then we'd best bulk delete most articles about India and Pakistan. For the esports story there was an Agence France-Presse newswire,[21] which is how many stories find their way into the media. Fences&Windows 12:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fences and windows Actually, most Indian (and Pakistani) news sources indeed do exactly that, which is why a lot of them aren't regarded as reliable sources (the Times of India failed a discussion at RSN and editors are advised against using it, also see The_Times_of_India#Paid_news). Having said that, your link looks like an actual story as opposed to advertorial. Black Kite (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Assuming you're talking about this, Black Kite, that appears (to me) to be a regurgitated press release as opposed to organic journalism, which is par for the course for TOI. CUPIDICAE💕 14:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Fences and windows, I trust @Praxidicae's judgement on sources & tbh I think I trust them on this also. @Black Kite is also apt when they say most Indian sources do just that(I would know, I’ve lived in India and I’m part Indian) The aforementioned sources you listed save for TOI are actually regarded to as reliable sources in India but we must keep in mind that reliable sources and reliable pieces aren’t one and the same & reliable sources also publish unreliable pieces(more prevalent in Nigeria though where I reside currently). Celestina007 (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Assuming you're talking about this, Black Kite, that appears (to me) to be a regurgitated press release as opposed to organic journalism, which is par for the course for TOI. CUPIDICAE💕 14:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fences and windows Actually, most Indian (and Pakistani) news sources indeed do exactly that, which is why a lot of them aren't regarded as reliable sources (the Times of India failed a discussion at RSN and editors are advised against using it, also see The_Times_of_India#Paid_news). Having said that, your link looks like an actual story as opposed to advertorial. Black Kite (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note I have just removed a "Keep" !vote from the page as I have indefinitely blocked the user for threats against others, and attacking an editor who has commented "Delete" here. Black Kite (talk) 08:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Strong Delete The article has completely advertising taste and no doubt it’s a part pf a PR work. I checked the Zeyan Shafiq’s Social Media platforms and found that the article is a paid edit. Because on 14th January the user User:Fences_and_windows moved the Draft:Zeyan Shafiq from Draft space to main space. On the same date after the article done he posted screenshot of Wikipedia article on his story on Facebook. Also yesterday their Facebook page Stalwarts eSports connecting Stalwart Esports got verified and he shared it on his Facebook account. In my conclusion both of these Article Zeyan Shafiq and Stalwart Esports are well planned PR paid edit for social media branding and advertising. Also the edit history of both articles looks spam Ravishingstar (talk) 06:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- We knew the article subject was aware, the article creator admitted contacting him to get photos. Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stalwart Esports. I advised Hums4r not to work on that article but he ignored me. If Shafiq's article is kept then I'd favour merging it into his bio, but I won't comment there. Fences&Windows 12:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Strong Delete I want to keep some question
- 1.If any one open a esports team which not yet participate in any notable competitive game even not win a compitision how may it notable?
- 2.If i issue some paid or free pr or news in this simple thing is it notable?
- 3.If everyone start to do this cheap thing like zeyan for verifying their social account in future it could be more bad.
- 4. If one create a app seeing youtube cheap course he is not a web develoer or else respective member said zeyan.
- 5.Last month i crate a video chatting app if i submit some news article by paying money can I will be eligible for wiki page.That's nit fair with the greatest person of the earth because :Wikipedia is the place where great people get approved.
- Do something like this cheap thing.
- In pubg championship many indian team won and perticipate but they don’t di this types of thing for social handle verification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.163 (talk) 14:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I have added multiple more reliable source references to the Zeyan Shafiq as per WP:RS and WP:BLPRS and WP:SIGCOV. It should meet the basic WP:GNG to fit in. Regarding paid release, Indian articles usually copy from other sources and post them. They're not likely to be paid and all the Paid Releases usually come with warning's or are labelled as brand posts so doesn't look like paid releases but they can be removed and the article could be edited accordingly and saved. Also via talk page this article has been nominated for DYK and shouldn't be removed on the basis of unreliable sources rather should be edited and those Unreliable sources should be removed or used as primary references to enrich the article. Subject's work has been widely covered as well can be checked by simple search over google. The esport organisation has been in print/TV news for their collaboration. I'm posting this to save the article because this AfD has been influenced by Bad-faith votes and Rivalry. If required I'll remove the unreliable sources. 2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- You'll need to redact your egregious personal attack, read WP:NPA and WP:AGF. CUPIDICAE💕 21:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- No personal attacks i just replied with my knowledge of organic/reliable and paid sources, why did you think it wasn't in good faith and it was a personal attack? Let the closing admin and the community decide and my response wasn't for anyone specifically it was general for the Closing admin.2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 21:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Praxidicae. Your comment "this AfD has been influenced by Bad-faith votes and Rivalry" is at odds with WP:AGF towards other editors. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- No personal attacks i just replied with my knowledge of organic/reliable and paid sources, why did you think it wasn't in good faith and it was a personal attack? Let the closing admin and the community decide and my response wasn't for anyone specifically it was general for the Closing admin.2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 21:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- You'll need to redact your egregious personal attack, read WP:NPA and WP:AGF. CUPIDICAE💕 21:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete — The sources appear to be paid for & based on that I cannot and would not support an article based on unreliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment IMO paid sources are clearly labelled as 'brand posts' or 'paid' on the website's, these articles are organic I've added few more, maybe have a look and decide. Commenting in good faith only.it's your opinion afterall. 2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 23:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Commissioned sources are, at best, primary sources and as this is a biography such sources are pretty much worthless for anything. Whether or not the outlet has EiCs that do their job and disclose the paid-for articles is immaterial; if it's a commissioned article being cited for a biography, it needs to hit the bricks. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 01:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Is this «notable for more than one thing - starting KashBook and Stalwart eSports»? Really? Perhaps the leading paragraph should mention what these two things are, concisely, then? In the current revision I am not convinced that the notability criteria are met. --Gryllida (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Good idea - I have done it for Kashbook (because the citations explained in simple terms what Kashbook is).-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:32, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Just dropping in to add that there is at least one reliable source: India Connected: How the Smartphone Is Transforming the World's Largest Democracy, a book published by Oxford University Press, that acknowledges the significant attention Shafiq received. It does so in this line:
That evening, I met Zeyan Shafiq, who had become something of a tech celebrity in Kashmir.
Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 03:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
*Comment: This is WP:BLP1E, He can’t be notable just because of one event that has happened years ago. The reason for not voting Del is to confirm:- Since Kashbook has had extensive coverage, does it qualify as notability? Can someone explain?-- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 16:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)- Change to Keep or weak keep few sources about e-sport work , so isn't BLP1E. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 19:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or merge the biography for which it has received media attention is Kashbook (a non notable app with no historical records and popularity). The available sources do not discuss the app or its developer(s) independently, but they have covered Censorship in Kashmir for which the app has received media coverage. In general terms, it fails to satisfy WP:NSOFT and WP:BIO. None of the sources discuss the subject separate from government bans. I would also suggest merge the article to Censorship in Kashmir. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- keep requires some writing.looks to meet wp:gng wp:rs easily with many secondary sources,books and was on main page as per talk page.also wp:atd says if editing can improve the page,it should be edited rather then deleted. ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note to the closing admin: ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk · contribs) joined here just a day ago. Kichu🐘 Discuss 08:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep under criterion 4, and there are enough arguments from banned editors here to make a consensus difficult if not impossible not to determine. There is no prejudice against speedy renomination if an editor in good standing wishes to renominate. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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Does not pass criteria set forward by WP:NSCHOOL. Not even a good reference. Bornfromashes (talk) 04:16, 18 February 2021 striking blocked sockpuppet, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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Delete Lack of significant reliable references to justify the notability of the subject. Timberlack (talk) 05:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)striking blocked sock/meatpuppet, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Written like an advertisement 27.61.53.70 (talk) 09:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - this was up for AfD yesterday and was closed as speedy keep. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Note: Nominator blocked for socking. Blablubbs|talk 14:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to meeting GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep (1) because the speedy was closed as keep (2) A dearth of citations is not a reason for deletion : we require verifability not that it is verified by references; the excpetion is BLP, which this is not. In India English-medium schools are the gateway to well-paid employment, which might be a factor towards notability, but I take no view on notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete No reliable references to justify the notability of the subject. JaiMahadev (talk) 03:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)striking another blocked sockpuppet of the original nominator, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)- Delete Totally agree with the other delete voters. There's nothing sourcing wise to justify this being notable. The nominator being a sock is unfortunate, but really a separate issue to the purpose of AfDs IMO. So, I see now reason this can't still be evaluated on the articles merits or lack of them. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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Delete - the organisation does not appear to have ever been subject to significant coverage from independent, reliable, secondary sources. Sources found do not meet WP:ORGDEPTH and WP:ORGIND and ultimately WP:NORG is not met. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)- Request Procedural Close: I agree withthe Delete !votes, but noms by socks should not be considered, doing so only encourages more socking. If an editor feels this is not notable, they should renominate and this close should not be considered. // Timothy :: talk 16:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Timothy makes a good point. I have struck my vote. This was created by a prolific vandal and we should not be encouraging their behaviour. If this school is to be deleted, the discussion should be started by a good faith editor, not someone with a clear COI who has had multiple accounts blocked for promoting a rival school to this one. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:49, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. This has been a long running discussion - over five weeks now, though not many contributors, and little clear evidence of consensus. There are six !votes for delete, mostly citing guidelines or policies such as NLIST, NOTSTATS, FANCRUFT. There are seven !votes for keep, though the reasons vary. Three are in the form of "I like it", so hold little weight. Three point to the existence of FL as a reason to keep, though that in itself is not a convincing argument, and tends to fall in the "I like it camp". But one keep !vote, that of Deus et lex, directly challenges the assumptions of the delete !voters that the NOTSTAT policy cited is actually relevant to the articles listed. Though it is one vote, it is very convincing rationale. The arguments citing previous AfDs are not that useful as some article-lists were kept, while others were deleted. Each AfD should be taken on its own merits. The deciding argument that is left is if the lists meet WP:NLIST. And I note that the most recent discussions focus on this aspect. NLIST requires that the list topic be "discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources" - and it is emphasised that individual items on the list do not need formal citing for meeting the requirements as long as there is evidence from reliable sources that the set criteria itself has been defined by reliable sources. There is an argument that the lists do not meet this criteria, and a counter argument that the list do meet the criteria. On being asked to provide evidence that the lists are appropriately cited, there was response that there would be books that did provide such evidence. But the evidence itself was not provided. I checked the sourcing in some articles and agree with the argument that evidence has not been provided that reliable sources have discussed the criteria of five wickets taken in one innings on a particular ground. There are stats and occasional articles which provide evidence that five wickets were taken on a particular ground, but none of the ones I checked discussed that as a defining set, such as "this is the seventh time that there has been a five wicket haul on this ground". Given that there were two !votes and a solid argument put forward for the lists not meeting WP:NLIST, and that this argument was not adequately met by those wishing to keep, this is a delete decision. However, as the subject of merging the information into existing articles was proposed and not objected to, I will temporarily userfy any article on request to allow the contents to be merged into an appropriate article. SilkTork (talk) 11:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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In continuation of previous AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries at Carisbrook where we developed a clear consensus that such lists are not required as they fail WP:NLIST. Störm (talk) 13:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason:
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Bellerive Oval (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Australian cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Bangladeshi cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on English cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Indian cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Kenyan cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on New Zealand cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Pakistani cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Emirati cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on South African cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Zimbabwe cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on West Indies cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Sri Lankan cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Bangabandhu National Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Green Park Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Punjab Cricket Association IS Bindra Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Carisbrook (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Seddon Park (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Dubai International Cricket Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Sheikh Zayed Cricket Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Sharjah Cricket Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Centurion Park (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Asgiriya Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at R. Premadasa Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Pallekele International Cricket Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Galle International Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket centuries on Indian cricket grounds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket centuries at the Daren Sammy Cricket Ground (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket centuries at the R. Premadasa Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket five wicket hauls at Multan Cricket Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international five wicket hauls at Arbab Niaz Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international five wicket hauls at Sardar Patel Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international cricket centuries at Iqbal Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of international five wicket hauls at Iqbal Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Thanks. Störm (talk) 13:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Procedurally I'd like to see List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at McLean Park (a featured list) and List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Lord's added to this list. If we agree to delete these lists then I think we need to agree to delete the featured ones and the Lord's one - unless someone can make a case for Lord's as an exception (which I think is doable fwiw). I've edited all of these lists extensively but have no great attachment either way to them - but if we're going to call these non-notable then we need to call all of them non-notable or make a decision as to where the notability lies.
- I'd also point to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Basin Reserve from 2019 and the related discussions here, here and here - all on the same archive page confusingly. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I don't understand the need to delete these pages. Although I have created a few of these pages and if deleted won't work on them again. But since a separate page for centuries is there I don't understand the logic to delete these. Ankurc.17 (talk) 04:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all. per previous AfD outcome for the lists of centuries and WP:NOTSTATS WP:NOTIINFO WP:NOTMIRROR and WP:FANCRUFT. With regards to the featured lists, we should leave those until after this discussion to establish whether we have a clear precedent to keep/remove. Ajf773 (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Shouldn't we deal with those first? If those articles - particularly McLean Park - can become a featured list then any of these can. In fact, many are in a very similar state. Don't be scared of including a featured list first - if the idea of these lists isn't notable then the featured lists aren't notable either. Lord's you can argue about separately, I agree, because of the nature of the ground. There may be other grounds where this applies - SCG, MCG etc... - but not McLean. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all. per previous AfDs. I don't think "by ground" is a meaningful categorisation. "by player" makes a lot more sense. I can tell you have many Test centuries Don Bradman got, but how many centuries there have been as MCG, I wouldn't have a clue. No one's interested. Nigej (talk) 20:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep all as discussions on previous proposals have mentioned, the fact that there have been featured lists in this group of articles suggests that they actually don't fail the guidelines and are within Wikipedia's criteria, given that they wouldn't have been accepted as featured lists otherwise. I'd admit that they need work, but I don't think that merits deletion of them all. Turnagra (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment pinging previous participants @Tsistunagiska:, @Churot:, @Kemalcan:, @Theleekycauldron:, @Spiderone:, @NavjotSR:, @Joalhe1997: for their view. Störm (talk) 08:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Blue Square Thing has basically said the same thing as I said on a previous AfD page, where do we draw the line on notability? There probably needs to be a consensus on whether there's a way we can keep and work on these lists to fall in line with the WPs or whether we should delete all of these types of lists, as I don't understand why some should stay and some should go. Also going to ping in Lugnuts who works a lot on WP:Cricket pages. Joalhe1997 (talk) 09:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. The fact that a similar, as BST highlights, is a Featured List, gives hope that ALL of these lists could become FL too. All of the articles I've got to FL status are in the same ballpark (see top of my userpage), so I'd support a Keep for these, as they all have WP:POTENTIAL. Worst case is that if someone wants to work on a specific list, they can get it restored (to their userspace) via WP:REFUND and work on polishing it up to a FL standard. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Blue Square Thing has basically said the same thing as I said on a previous AfD page, where do we draw the line on notability? There probably needs to be a consensus on whether there's a way we can keep and work on these lists to fall in line with the WPs or whether we should delete all of these types of lists, as I don't understand why some should stay and some should go. Also going to ping in Lugnuts who works a lot on WP:Cricket pages. Joalhe1997 (talk) 09:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Due to mixed consideration at the moment, (currently) somewhat focusing on whether the existence of certain exceptions undermines the general reasoning proposed in the test case.
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- I should formally say that I would suggest keep for now, on the grounds that some of these lists are pretty close to the same standard as featured lists. I would have no problem at all if one of the FL were put forward for deletion to determine whether or not we should consider these articles to be suitable in terms of notability or not. I'd be happy to treat Lord's, the MCG and SCG as cases separate beyond that, but I think we'd be better off trying to decide if we consider any other articles in this series to be notable or not first.
- There's a little too much range in the bundle for me to feel confident of any choice to delete as well - there are centuries articles and ones that should clearly be merged (Green Park, for example) as well as lists by ground and lists by country. For me that's rather too many things to try to decide on in one bundle if I'm honest. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. No point in deleting these articles / lists. One could debate them at an aggregate (across all sports, not just cricket and bowling), but, I do not see an issue in keeping. Value from these articles is nett positive, even if the magnitude is limited. Keep. Ktin (talk) 21:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete all Consistent with the previous AFDs, these are not meaningful ways to categorize such statistics. Just because similar articles are FL does not give immunity to these, nor do even the FLs have any sort of immunity. The FLC process tends to be based on the article's quality as it appears and is not necessarily a statement that the topic's notability or encyclopedic-ness overrides other discussions. Reywas92Talk 22:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep all - for a number of reasons: 1. the previous AfD does not establish some sort of precedent for every page - I note these discussions have been dominated by users such as Störm and Ajf773 who take particularly strong views (and in my view often incorrect, if you read previous AfDs) on the use of cricket statistics in articles, and I note the previous discussion wasn't properly shared with relevant deletion-discussion lists (particularly country-related ones) which would enable a broader range of users to have input (like this AfD does). It appears that a view has been taken that the individual AfD should be used as some sort of RfC for whether these types of statistics are notable or not - that isn't the case and it doesn't accord with Wikipedia policy on what AfDs are to be used for, there should be a RfC or broader discussion on the relevant WikiProject where proper consensus and consultation is done if that is to be the case; 2. The pages are NOT a violation of WP:NOTSTATS - that requires excessive lists of indiscriminate statistics, but 5 wicket hauls and centuries at particular grounds are, in many cases, things that have been covered by other independent sources, so they're not indiscriminate (also taking into account lists of centuries and 5-wicket hauls are fairly limited), and they're not excessive - the argument that they are just Cricinfo mirrors is simply not correct (and the Featured List articles metioned above prove that point); 3. The point about the articles being able to be improved is a valid and relevant point; 4. Even if (contrary to everything I have already said) there is a consensus that stand-alone articles shouldn't exist, none of the arguments put by the proponents of deletion show that it's not inappropriate to merge to the relevant cricket ground etc. articles that would override Wikipedia policy on alternatives to deletion - in the context of articles that are largely prose text, statistics about 5-wicket hauls and centuries (the summary achievements in a match for a bowler and batter respectively) are not inappropriate or indiscriminate and also don't violate WP:NOTSTATS. The mass nomination here, while in good faith and to avoid the mess of recent AfDs on individual batsmen and bowler centuries and 5-wicket hauls, doesn't give users the proper ability to analyse each article to determine the appropriateness of another option before deletion is able to be considered. All of the above show that these should be kept; if there are inappropriate entries in the above list, reasons should be put forward specifically on those pages to show why they are inappropriate. Deus et lex (talk) 02:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all - there is something about cricket and cricket fans that leads to this kind of "cruft". I do not think any other sports goes to this level of detail. --Bduke (talk) 07:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - cruft is only an essay, it is not policy, and is not a reason for deletion. Cricket statistics are in many instances covered by multiple independent reliable sources. This can't just be a delete all, the nominators need to show why it is inappropriate to not keep or merge. Deus et lex (talk) 07:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep People will find this valuable. Nexus000 (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- WP:ADDSVALUE is not a real argument for a deletion discussion. Ajf773 (talk) 09:33, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you encourage full discussions rather than just make remarks about others' comments. Nexus might have a valid reason for making that argument? Deus et lex (talk) 07:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- I invite him/her to elaborate more. Simple comments like that aren't useful in deciding on an outcome. Ajf773 (talk) 08:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The keep arguments are all very week and classic arguments to avoid but I don’t think we should delete all many articles without a stronger consensus
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- Whoa there. My argument here is that the list of articles presented is far too diverse to be able to come to a conclusion here. There's nothing wrong with that argument. As I've argued above, this should probably be a keep and then I'd be very happy to see a proper debate on List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at McLean Park. If we can reach a consensus there that articles of that type are not notable, then we can move on from that. I've also listed three previous discussions where articles such as this were discussed and a consensus was reached that they are notable. I'm not sure that's a "weak" argument and one that could be considered one to avoid. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have to agree with @Blue Square Thing: here, @Spartaz: -- I think it's unfair to just write off some pretty valid comments made by users here and call them "weak", which have been made by reference to Wikipedia policy (including that a mass deletion doesn't take into account the diversity of articles, the fact that the articles don't in fact violate WP:NOTSTATS (despite the often-repeated claim that they do - and this has been accepted and has been the consensus of other users and closers in other AfDs), and the existence of appropriate merge or redirect targets for some of these articles (WP:ATD). I've also explained elsewhere that for some of these types of articles (lists of five-wicket hauls and centuries) have been the subject of independent coverage outside of Cricinfo. I don't have the time to research individual articles to find further sources given the large number up for AfD here but it's worth noting that. I think at best you can say there isn't consensus to delete at present. Deus et lex (talk) 23:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Whoa there. My argument here is that the list of articles presented is far too diverse to be able to come to a conclusion here. There's nothing wrong with that argument. As I've argued above, this should probably be a keep and then I'd be very happy to see a proper debate on List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at McLean Park. If we can reach a consensus there that articles of that type are not notable, then we can move on from that. I've also listed three previous discussions where articles such as this were discussed and a consensus was reached that they are notable. I'm not sure that's a "weak" argument and one that could be considered one to avoid. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Closer should also note that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries at Carisbrook bundle and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries at Dubai International Cricket Stadium bundle were deleted despite having featured lists like List of international cricket centuries at the Green Park Stadium, List of international cricket centuries at Bellerive Oval and others and no one objected previously. Störm (talk) 13:59, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Also, similar lists for players are regularly deleted, redirected, or merged despite having featured lists. If we have featured lists that doesn't mean we can't delete other lists as these featured lists were promoted by specific mindset of people (I have no doubt that if we again discuss these lists will be demoted) who consider ESPNCricinfo and CricketArchive as secondary sources which they are not (they are database websites). Secondly, lists should meet WP:NLIST and their table are full of WP:NOTSTATS so aren't any useful. Störm (talk) 14:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I should be clear that: a) the bundle here is mainly five-wicket hauls, not centuries - similar, but different; b) I've changed my mind and would now make the same points about centuries. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:24, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Störm:, I've already raised why you can't treat some of the other discussions as precedent, when (for example) some of them weren't brought to the attention of appropriate WikiProject Deletion Sorting lists, and the fact that they don't set a "precedent" as such - if you want to do that, the appropriate course is an RfC. Deus et lex (talk) 23:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all: Per the previous AFDs, this is an arbitrary way to group, not supported by RS, and does not meet LISTN. The keep comments do not address guidelines that have been mentioned, and provide no sources or guidelines that support their position. // Timothy :: talk 10:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment TimothyBlue, have you even read the lengthy replies that @Blue Square Thing: and I have raised? The articles are already sourced externally so that isn't true. Grouping centuries or five-wicket hauls at particular grounds is not "arbitrary" and has been covered in external sources in many cases - cricket statistics frequently reference centuries and five-wicket hauls. I'm not sure how they violate WP:LISTN, but you can't just assert it, you need to argue why. There are plenty of good, policy-based arguments about why the mass deletion of these articles is inappropriate. At worst they should be merged or redirected, because you're required to show that isn't inappropriate BEFORE deleting. No one has done that. The prior AfDs are NOT a precedent and should not be used as a quasi-RfC. These articles must be considered on their own merits, and as a group it is inappropriate to delete them. If there's a problem with a particular one then raise it, othewise it's just vague reasons given for deletion of all of them, and that's not the right outcome. Deus et lex (talk) 10:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Deus et lex Please pick any article of your choice (in order to prove) and show reliable secondary sources where they discuss the centuries/fifers as a group (I have searched for all of them and they all fail WP:LISTN). But, if you can't, then don't brag about it as keep voters arguments don't make sense (Spartaz was right what they said). Störm (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Störm - did you check largely offline sources such as Wisden? Books featuring the history of particular cricket grounds that discuss centuries or 5-fors made at those grounds? Including for the Featured Articles? And even if you're right, none of that means a merge or a redirect isn't appropriate. There are some entirely valid arguments for keeping these articles that are grounded in Wikipedia policy, as Blue Square Thing and I have mentioned. The mass nomination should not have been made. It's trying to set an RfC-like argument, it doesn't give editors the proper opportunity to look up what sources might be available, and doesn't distinguish properly between the particular articles. I'm not "bragging", just trying to show up the ill-thought out reasons for deletion by editors who are obsessed with removing cricket statistic articles. Deus et lex (talk) 08:28, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Deus et lex Please pick any article of your choice (in order to prove) and show reliable secondary sources where they discuss the centuries/fifers as a group (I have searched for all of them and they all fail WP:LISTN). But, if you can't, then don't brag about it as keep voters arguments don't make sense (Spartaz was right what they said). Störm (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment TimothyBlue, have you even read the lengthy replies that @Blue Square Thing: and I have raised? The articles are already sourced externally so that isn't true. Grouping centuries or five-wicket hauls at particular grounds is not "arbitrary" and has been covered in external sources in many cases - cricket statistics frequently reference centuries and five-wicket hauls. I'm not sure how they violate WP:LISTN, but you can't just assert it, you need to argue why. There are plenty of good, policy-based arguments about why the mass deletion of these articles is inappropriate. At worst they should be merged or redirected, because you're required to show that isn't inappropriate BEFORE deleting. No one has done that. The prior AfDs are NOT a precedent and should not be used as a quasi-RfC. These articles must be considered on their own merits, and as a group it is inappropriate to delete them. If there's a problem with a particular one then raise it, othewise it's just vague reasons given for deletion of all of them, and that's not the right outcome. Deus et lex (talk) 10:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 10:58, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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non-notable -- the references are PR, and so is the doctorate from non-notable university DGG ( talk ) 09:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. I think he meets WP:GNG. The citations from the Toronto Star and The New Indian Express are WP:RS. PKT(alk) 21:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- both those references are promotional interviews, the sort of interview where the interviewer asks leading questions, and the subject of the interview says whatever they please about themselves. We have for several years realized that these are not independent sources in any real sense--the paper simply prints whatever the subject (or the subject's PR people) tell it. Even otherwise good papers do this, and it essentially means we cannot trust as independent sources anything in a news source which does not clearly indicate independent reporting with editorial control. Even the NYT does this sort of promotion and even more blatant choice of products to include in its style pages. It always did, but they're harder to distinguish in the online version. To the extent they show anything at all, they show the work of the press agent. DGG ( talk ) 09:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- weak keephas few wp:rs on google but article reads promo.needs rewriting can be saved by editing,deletion is not necessary.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was procedural keep. Nominator blocked, no-one advocating for deletion, and improvements to the article render this discussion moot. Daniel (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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lack of reliable references which are independent of the subject. Fails WP:NACTOR, WP:GNG LucyLucy (talk) 12:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep I have found and added a variety of news sources to support WP:NACTOR, and it appears Hundal has had "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows," based on the news coverage. Beccaynr (talk) 01:15, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Nominator was also blocked as a sock. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Resources are not enough to justify notability of the subject. LucyLucy (talk) 12:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Notability is borderline but sources in the article and coverage in the Times of India [22][23] is enough to squeak over the bar of WP:GNG. The fact that there is no legitimate delete !vote or reason argues for another editor speedily closing this. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not enough sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 19:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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lack of significant and reliable resources that are independent of the subject. LucyLucy (talk) 12:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete not even close to meeting the inclusion criteria for articles on actresses.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I was hoping she's be in more than one episode of the Big Bang, but it would seem not. All she seems to have done are bit parts. Oaktree b (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep I was able to find and add sources (in addition to what was already in the article about her starring role in a film) that indicate she has starred in two films and had what appears to be a substantial role in another film, in addition to her notable television appearance. Per WP:NACTOR, she appears to have had "significant roles" in multiple productions. Beccaynr (talk) 18:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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References do not show significant coverage about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. LucyLucy (talk) 12:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep The references establish that Ahuja passes WP:NACTOR, because she has "had significant roles in multiple notable [...] television shows" Beccaynr (talk) 22:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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- keep easily passes wp:gng and has some wp:rs, searched on google found many ref's. Someone needs to re write.as per WP:ATD if the article can be edited,it should be edited rather then deleted.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 08:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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lack of independent and reliable references, fails Notability. LucyLucy (talk) 12:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- delete fails wp:gng and wp:rs completely.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 08:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- AfD vacated due to sockpuppetry, see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 June 1. Daniel (talk) 23:05, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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Do not have significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. LucyLucy (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- delete or draftify: no reliable source on google, case of wp:toosoon.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 08:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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No references to establish company notability. Advertisement. External links. Timberlack (talk) 06:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete there are essentially no sources on this article, links to the websites of the subsidiaries do not count as sources. Wikipedia is not meant to be a directory of websites, that is all this page is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: A poor article as its stands, but a substantial Business Standard article "The father, son and an unholy split within the Chettinad Group" (20 June 2015) says "the over Rs 10,000-crore Chettinad group is considered industrial royalty in South India". AllyD (talk) 17:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: I have added two references, both covering the company history triggered by disputes in 2015, but searches find more, up to the present ("Raids at Chettinad Group premises", Deccan Herald, 9 December 2020). Enough to meet WP:NCORP, despite the current bare-bones article. AllyD (talk) 17:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep This appears to be a large industrial group having historical significance [24] [25]. Its subsidiary Chettinad Cement is a prominent cement manufacturer in South India [26]. M4DU7 (talk) 07:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was weak keep. Daniel (talk) 05:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP. Timberlack (talk) 06:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - A notable E-commerce / Online retailer of India, was launched long time back. Removed dead links and updated active links. Rajeshbieee (talk) 10:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep, the citations in the article demonstrate significant enough coverage from reliable sources for WP:NCORP. Tayi Arajakate Talk 16:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 15:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Timberlack (talk) 06:01, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete being rich, receiving awards and representing an organisation doesn't establish nobility. RationalPuff (talk) 22:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Hulatam (talk) 12:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- keep has some major wp:rs economic times, business today. Article is written poorly needs rewriting.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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- comment: @RationalPuff:, has some reliable sources like economic times, bloomberg,search over google would demonstrate more sources. It can be edited and improved. Per wp:atd if it can be edited it shouldn’t be deleted. this is not a SPA. ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 12:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable. The sources are woeful hence the delete. scope_creepTalk 12:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Do not show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Fails WP:RS Timberlack (talk) 05:53, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Can't soft delete since it survived its first AfD. Nom has been blocked as a sock anyway, so one relist for good-faith commentary.
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- weak keep all the major references are IMDB, and can not be considered as reliable, maybe someone can try to add more sources and re write it properly.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 01:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete IMDb is not a realible source and we need to stop building articles on it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- delete I couldnt find anything to establish notability under WP:GNG, or WP:NCREATIVE. IMDb is not a realible source and we need to stop building articles on it. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 00:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Sources are not good enough. Fails GNG Jenyire2 06:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. The name sounds as if it should be notable, but it is actually a non-notable index of a start-up company’s own trading platform. "The NFI is based on real transactions taking place on Rivigo Freight marketplace". Fails WP:NCORP. SailingInABathTub (talk) 08:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Web searching does not reveal enough coverage to satisfy WP:NCORP and they seem to revolve around the establishment of the subject only. Considering that the parent company Rivigo is salted, it is even more unlikely for a part of the company's operation to be notable. The words seems slightly promotional, though I would not accuse the creator of WP:COI yet out of WP:AGF. ~ Ase1estecharge-paritytime 10:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, SailingInABathTub does a good summary above, fails NCORP. HighKing++ 21:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- delete: per SailingInABathTub, and Aseleste. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG as nothing notable on a WP:BEFORE that I can find. PROD was removed with "de-prod. There are a lot of false positives for this name, but seems sufficiently notable not to go for prod" Thanks, Kolma8 (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:NFILM. Donaldd23 (talk) 18:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Fails WP:NFILM, Google search does not turn up anything that establishes notability of the film. --Ashleyyoursmile! 17:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Obviously this is not the most notable subject in the encyclopedia, but after much-extended time for discussion, consensus is that it falls just above the scraping-the-barrel line. BD2412 T 05:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Completely unsourced article that doesn't meet WP:ORG, WP:SCHOOL. Google search didn't return a single independent source. RationalPuff (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete very little coverage can be found online. -Cupper52Discuss! 09:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. Accredited degree-awarding tertiary institution. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - my understanding is that sources for degree-awarding colleges can usually be found. I'm not finding anything myself, but perhaps someone fluent in Hindu or Urdu would be able to find something. I'd frankly be quite surprised if there really was nothing online. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would be surprised if there was nothing on line, but also note that sources do not need to be online, they just need to be reliable, secondary and independent. Having seen today multiple articles on vocational colleges in the US that lack any source beyond their own website, I am not as sure as I once was that sourcing on all tertiary institutions is easy to find. Although I did no searches just moved on after adding a founding date category to those pages, so for all I know it is really easy to find sources and the article creator was lazy. My current example of this is that Dallin H. Oaks lacks any sources on his bio for the first 2 years it existed, and it has never been hard to find sources on Oaks. I still think we need to use a broader array of sources on Oaks' time as BYU presdient, but it has always been possible to find sources on him. Well, at any time after 1970.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Accredited degree-awarding tertiary institution, as per-- User:Necrothesp There appears to be a disturbing trend that South Asian sites are nominated before any research has been done in Urdu, Tamil of Hindi, or in this case deletions are proposed quoting policys or essays that just don't apply. ClemRutter (talk) 22:10, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Degree awarding institute in India acceptable. Niceguylucky (talk) 11:03, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. Unfortunately the article creator has been in the habit of creating new articles, getting them past draft, then adding promotional content. I have just blocked him temporarily for spamming - he's had plenty of warnings. Maybe it would be a good idea to draftify. Deb (talk) 10:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep accredited school, although sources light, it meets guidelines. Expertwikiguy (talk) 03:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The "keep" votes suggest sources do exist without clearly supporting that view. Relisting to determine if a clearer consensus and notability can be determined.
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- Weak keep - it exists, but there's not much here. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:30, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Something of a close call, but there seems to be a consensus that he doesn't meet GNG such that subordinate notability guidelines are less relevant. Go Phightins! 20:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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BLP of the chairman of a national body. The trouble is I’m not seeing any in depth coverage and I don’t think the awards are notable. Does not meet WP:ANYBIO. Mccapra (talk) 19:14, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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Keep Found other reliable independent resources about the subject when Googled. passes WP:RS. DoctorsHub (talk) 06:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment could you share the three best ones please? Mccapra (talk) 06:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Many references available when looked online http://paymentscouncil.in/Governance.aspx, https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/banking/finance/banking/pci-appoints-new-chairman-vishwas-patel-co-chairman-loney-antony/articleshow/64846548.cms?from=mdr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennnyy88 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment thanks but I don’t think these help with notability. The fact that his name is on the website of the organisation he chairs is not a surprise, and a press release about his appointment naturally quotes him. But this isn’t in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 17:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Soft delete All I can find are PR blurbs on this guy. However, he might merit a future article. Rogermx (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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- weak keep very poor references, doesn't meet wp:rs, he is founder of CC avenue, so might meet wp:nsoft, needs writing and sourcing. ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete , rather weakly, but a consensus does exist. No prejudice towards recreation (including any other administrator undeleting this article and draftifying) if the state of play changes. Daniel (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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None of the published work by the subject does not seems to have significant impact on the field of study. The subject has won some non notable awards. But he does not have recieved independent coverage from multiple sources to establish notability hence fails WP:GNG Kichu🐘 Discuss 08:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. While he's a bit above average in a few criteria in his field*, there's nothing demonstrating an exceptional career or scholarly impact.
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I compiled the average total citations, total pubs, h-index, highest citation, and highest first-author citation for Chaturvedi and ~100 of his coauthors (with more than 30 papers--people publish in this field a lot). |
- Weak delete Passing WP:GNG isn't a requirement, as WP:NPROF may be the relavent criteria here. As per JoelleJay's analysis, I'm not convinced is suitably notable though. Might be some reviews of the recent books in due course, but perhaps too soon for that to be grounds for notability. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment:JoelleJay, Inorder to pass WP:NPROF, the subject must satisfy atleast any of the 8 criterias mentioned there. I dont see he has passed any of that. His contribution doesnot seem to have made an impact in the field of study. Also he is not a winner of any notable awards. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 17:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Kichu, yep, I should have clarified that the criteria I was assessing were for NPROF C1, which seemed to be the NPROF criterion he was most likely to pass (but I don't think he does). JoelleJay (talk) 03:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. The original article submitted has been stripped of several things we should be considering (copied below from the edit history of Santosh Kumar Chaturvedi, with wikilinks added): Fellowships at Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh, Royal College of Psychiatrists, Indian Psychiatric Society and honorary membership of World Psychiatric Association all might count towards WP:PROF #3, and the Editor-in-chief position, albeit of a red-linked journal, might count towards #8.
- Fellow Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh, UK
- Fellow, Royal College of Psychiatrists, UK
- Member, International Association for the Study of Pain,
- Life Member, Indian Association of Palliative Care.
- Life Fellow of Indian Psychiatric Society
- Honorary Member, World Psychiatric Association, WPA ,
- Member, Editorial Board, Psycho Oncology [Wiley]
- Director, Board of Director, International Psycho Oncology Society [2006-2012]
- Editor in Chief, Journal of Psychosocial Rehabilitation & Mental Health
- Member, WHO’s Working Group on the Classification of Somatic Symptom and Dissociative Disorders 2010-2012. Espresso Addict (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Drafity or delete No secondary source found,might be case of wp:toosoon.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 01:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - may also see Google Scholar profile [27] with many published research - each of them cited heavily by other academics. Researchgate has 4000+ citations [28] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:568F:8FE2:C871:721A:56BF:5D8F (talk) 12:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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No evidence of nobility. Completely unsourced and promotional article. Fails WP:NSCHOOL, WP:ORG RationalPuff (talk) 23:54, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. No evidence this meets WP:NSCHOOL. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
*Keep a notable Engineering college which is affiliated to Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam Technical University. Niceguylucky (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep one of oldest and notable engineering college in Meerut affiliated to Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam Technical University. Yashvash60 (talk) 05:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify:Sources are not available and the present ones are self published hence definetly fails GNG. But the subject is a notable educational institute which lacks sources to establish notability. So moving to draft is recommended as interested users can work on the subject after finding suitable references of any kind. Kichu🐘 Discuss 10:10, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Accredited, degree-awarding tertiary institution. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete, leaning towards delete. Yashvash60, could you provide evidence that this instituition is particularly old (especially since it claims to be founded in 2001) or notable, therefore making it wp:NSCHOOL? I tried but I can't find any evidence of that by myself. Necrothesp, I do see that it awards degrees, but from what I can tell, their degrees are mostly trade certifications/industry group certifications, ie [amazon web services]] certified user, etc. There are many instituitions that grant these degrees, and I don't believe that any of them are by themselves notable per wp:NSCHOOL. I would appreciate your thoughts. Warmest regards, BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 03:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Edit: Changed my !vote to delete - searching for the instituition by name doesn't even show any coverage in newspapers or review journals. I can't imagine how a tertiary institution that succeeds under GNG or NSCHOOl could possibly have 0 coverage in unconnected sources. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 03:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm puzzled by what you mean. The article lists plenty of degrees up to PhD level! We have always kept degree-awarding institutions. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Necrothesp, could you point out where it says that this institution grants research PhDs? From what I can tell, the closest thing they offer is a DPharm, which is certainly a professional degree, not a research degree. Warmly, BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 13:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
The school also offers a Ph.D (Doctor of Philosophy)...
But in any case, professional degrees are as valid as general degrees. They are not simply "trade certifications/industry group certifications" as you allege above, but degrees! According to the article, it grants BTech, BPharm, MPharm, MCA, MBA and PhD. Every one of those is a recognised degree, not a trade certification. These (plus others) are confirmed by the college's website. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)- I see the article makes such a claim, but the present website for the instituition has dropped that claim: [29]. At any rate, granting of degrees doesn't necessarily mean it will survive under GNG - pre wp:schooloutcomes, the most important thing that saves an instituition's notability is substantial secondary source coverage - which I simply haven't found evidence for. Warmly, BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 15:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Necrothesp, could you point out where it says that this institution grants research PhDs? From what I can tell, the closest thing they offer is a DPharm, which is certainly a professional degree, not a research degree. Warmly, BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 13:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. None of the sources are independent of the subject. Alexius08 (talk) 06:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to List of colleges affiliated with Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam Technical University: Article does not meet GNG or ORGCRIT (NSCHOOL). Sources are not independent of the subject. No SIGCOV from IS RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. Keep votes do not provide any sources or rationale based in guidelines. Being affiliated with a notable school does not make this subject notable. // Timothy :: talk 16:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Likely to be back at AFD if sources aren't incorporated soon. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 11:42, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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there is no reference that she played a significant role in listed productions joxinmcdaniel (talk) 12:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep: There are sources not provided in the article, that verifies the actress has significant role in multiple malayalam serials and some minor roles in movies. The subject has also recieved enough coverage from well reputed multiple sources including Times of India. Kichu🐘 Discuss 13:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep She has played significent roles in notable malayalam serials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRICKETMANIAC303 (talk • contribs) 2021-02-06T09:47:01 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, fails GNG and WP:ACTOR; Keep advocacy is WP:SOURCESEXIST — Alalch Emis (talk) 10:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment:Other sources 1.https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/malayalam/malayali-audience-loves-typical-heroines-mridula-vijay/articleshow/63533388.cms
2.https://english.mathrubhumi.com/movies-music/movie-news/tv-stars-mridula-vijay-yuva-krishna-to-enter-wedlock-movie-1.5299849 3.https://malayalam.indianexpress.com/television/mridula-vijay-yuva-krishna-star-magic-video-451944/
These are only some sources I would like to attach here to establish the subject's notability. Its clear from the sources that the subject is a major actress in malayalam serial industry and has also appeared in some tamil movies. Source no 3 specificaly mentions that The actress is famous for appearing in several number of TV serials and shows. She is also a notable model and dancer as per the sources .Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 13:42, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails all three criteria of WP:NACTOR IMO. Kolma8 (talk) 14:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- delete doesn't meet WP:RS. Not enough secondary and independent sources available.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 01:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete There is not enough in-depth reliable sources to prove her notability. Alibilbao (talk) 18:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Dia (film). While keep participants argue for notability, no policy/guideline compliant sources or criteria are mentioned. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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The article was previously AFD'ed and deleted for not satisfying WP:NACTOR. The subject has since worked in two films which have not been released yet. So its pretty much WP:TOOSOON for an article to be considered. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 05:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete does not have the multiple significant roles in notable productions we require as a minimum to show an actress is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Should Not Be Deleted the subject has been notable in the south Indian film industry. Very strong references have also been submitted to justify the claims. The subject's released films maybe just one at this point in time but she is in the limelight and working on a couple of films with renowned production houses. The strong references have been submitted to justify that as well. User:rangasn (talk) 10:11, 6 February 2021 (IST)
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- delete a case of WP:TOOSOON. Niceguylucky (talk) 09:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Dia (film), where they played the lead role. WP:CHEAP and possible search term.-- `Ab207 (talk) 07:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Must Not Be Deleted Or Redirected The title looks to be notable in their respective field. The latest edit also shows that the individual has received some awards & accolades recently. It again proves the individual is actively involved in their respective field. The title deserves to be in the encyclopedia. User:Subashini_srini (talk) 09:35, 27 February 2021 (IST)
- Keep has some good reliable sources, can be edited.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 01:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 13:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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A non-notable businessman who fails WP:BASIC, WP:BIO. Merely on the basis of awards nobility can't be established. RationalPuff (talk) 16:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment There are multiple references in the article, many in languages I don't read/speak, the argument by the nom is very week based on existing references. Is this a drive by nomination, or does the nom have a point? I don't know, but a better argument the explains why those references don't meet WP:GNG would make for a more effective AFD, also addressing what is different between now and the AFD the resulted in Keep Jeepday (talk) 19:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Weak keep Has a number of reliable sources. –Cupper52Discuss! 09:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There is no indication that the industry rewards (NASSCOM, Computer Society of India etc.) are a "well-known and significant award or honor". I can't locate significant coverage outside of mentions of these rewards. — Alalch Emis (talk) 09:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Consensus unclear. The comment appears to lean keep, while the keep vote is weak.
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