User talk:Black Kite

A user adding wrong image

I have an excellent idea. Why not discuss this on the talk page of the article (since you made a start already)? I have bookmarked it to keep an eye out. That's far better than trying to get each other blocked... Black Kite (talk) 18:34, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Black Kite, user dolpina keep adding the ichafu images to the gele (headdress) entry after they went to label it as a scarf(scarves) and chiffon. They also went to the respective Image on commons to request for rename on those files but it was declined. I just thought to bring it up here. Best! (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 06:34, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

Hi, I’d like to step in here and clarify that these images depict Yoruba women’s headties, traditionally made using two or more yards of fabric. This differs from the Igbo headtie, which was traditionally described as requiring approximately one yard of fabric.

This distinction was documented as early as 1938 by Sylvia Leith Ross in the book ‘African Conversation Piece’, published in 1948. She explicitly wrote: “According to Mrs. Edwards, it all dates from the introduction of the Yoruba style of head tie, which needs a piece of cloth or silk two yards square, while the Ibo head tie only needs one yard square.”

This source here provides historical documentation distinguishing the Yoruba two yard head tie from the smaller Igbo headties, rather than treating the two traditions as the same form of headwear. Bookeybee (talk) 19:20, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Black Kite, those are photos of Geles and all the citations, images and even google searches show that. There is no independent academic research paper on "ichafu", nor stating a Gele is anything but a Gele. Gele is worn by many ethnicities in Nigeria but originates from the Yoruba people.

Gele can be made in many fabrics including damask. Searching Sego Gele will show many damask Gele. Vintage Gele's like the Onile gogoro are known for its very big and freeform shape. Even google trends will show no search for "ichafu" since the existence of the Internet while Gele is well established and very popular term to say the least, asides the no peer reviewed academic work on basis of anything called Ichafu, all the history of the words links it to being nothing but a loan word for scarve clothes in Igbo.

All he can produce are basically anything that mentions the word ichafu with no concrete point or content. This includes a novel, a paid 2026 blog post and ichafu mentioned in something in Oxford recently by an Igbo student about scarfs fabric motifs in art or something, no definition or history or anything nor image of said ichafu. I could as well do that with Gele with 100× more mentions, but I dont need to as it's a studied cultural garb. All poor attempts at synthesis to link the images of Gele to the wors Ichafu. There is enough citations however of Igbo and other ethnicities in Nigeria wearing the Gele. Even on social media, all across Nigerian states Gele artists are a thing, not Ichafu artists.

On wikicommons, for years, different type of neck scarves and head scarves from different cultures and random scarves from Ethiopia to Middle east are translated in the igbo language tag as Ichafu. The fact that those are Gele pictures however, are all these are cited in the article with academic works on Gele.

I'm starting to feel harassed by this user who goes around reverting my sourced content and trying to Gatekeep a Yoruba culture attire with no academic basis. The fact that he was linked in a roundabout meatpuppetry accusations way to the uploaders of those images by another user, even makes the implying that the files are named whatever so not Gele thus not belonging to the Gele article even more troubling, and the nature of this user's motivations here can be called to question.

@Black Kite

I'm really tired of this user's antics, and I have reported them. I don't know if I should keep pretending they are doing any of these in good faith. They have been banned before, on sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry investigations and banned on at least another Wikipedia sister site.

If he has any content dispute he should prove it and stop bothering me by reverting my content, it is getting rather annoying and disruptive. I'd much rather he doesnt interact with me or my edits, as suggested by the user who unblocked him when I complained. If he has an issue, he should take it to content dispute.

Sorry if that was too long, just wanted to explain everything and my brain can get yappy.

TL/DR: Those are pictures of Gele Dolpina (talk) 16:18, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

I really don't feel interested responding to you here. But I got notification of you replying to me, so I was wondering if you were actually replying to me but your comments shows otherwise. Its quite interesting how you keep asserting claims which I'm not moved to reply to. But blatantly accusing me of being blocked on sock and meatpuppetry is quite something admin needs to look into, and make me feel harassed.

You have been known to be intimidating to other editors and not being neutral with your edits and edit summary on the previous ANI. (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 17:30, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

Oh pls, I don't have any issues here. You do though. I was replying Black Kite on your user behaviour and antics. No need to engage me. I didn't accuse you of being a sock/meat, you were investigated as part of a meat and the conclusions were more likely but too late to do anything specific about or dole out bans yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Wmbata/Archive And before that, other users. Even though meatpuppetry is harder to prove a circle has come up in these investigations. Deetailz also for some reason came on the Gele page to revert those same images, though he is otherwise not on that page, and he circle the same "Igbo articles" as you and a investigated bunch, coincidentally intersect maybe, including some other banned fellows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Dangermanmeetz/Archive

I'll post the link to refresh your memory, it is also surrounding this issue again. You don't need to reply me,I've responded to the misinformation you wanted to tell Black kite. You were banned here and readded before standard issue, because you were editing random things and that admin (?) was convinced to give you a chance.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mbataw&diff=prev&oldid=1365339710 I reported your editing behaviour to him and he had to revert your edits himself as he confirmed I was correct.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Reconrabbit#h-Post-unblock_editing_concern:_User:Wmbata-20260724155700 Nowadays, as I'm busy I can't keep reporting you and your gatekeeping of certain articles. You are still banned on some sister Wikipedia cites for POV pushing and other issues.

Dolpina (talk) 17:43, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

@Dolpina I expect you to engage in discussion on the gele talk page rather than blatant reverts and spamming this editors talk page. Best! (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

You're the one spamming. Now please stop. I never addressed you but clarified my position. Dolpina (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

I've seen your recent edit on one of your comments above and I wouldn't respond to that here on an editors talk page because I've read somewhere(i can't remember though) that it is regarded as harassment.

This issue needs to be resolved on the appropriate page and that is where I'll post my reply regarding this!.

For the meantime please stick to the mismatched image via Wikipedia policies. Your edit history has been directed towards targeting Igbo related articles where you add negative information, deletion nominations, among others which I will go into full details if required. This explains why you are at crossroads with me rather than your claims of me following you. Even an account that just made a comment responding to the discussion I opened with you was created on 28th of September with vandalism on an Igbo cultural page removing the entire sourced section on Ichafu and openly admitted that the account was created to erase the cultural item Ichafu.

The images you added on gele page are glossed Igbo women wearing Ichafu on wikicommons not gele. Per WP:Verifiability, that’s inappropriate. (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 19:41, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

@Black Kite Please, I'm sorry for the persistent edit on your talk page started by me. I hope it's not disruptive. Best! (Nwa Mbata) (talk) 19:48, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

Excuse me. Hi! Did I find it :)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-54625-18 (talk) 04:13, 11 October 2026 (UTC)

More trouble on The Might Don't Kneel

Thank you for blocking the trouble making temp accounts who I and other temps have been fighting and I for one apologise for the edit warring - but NikolajEgemar has put the unsourced material back, ignoring your primary reason for blocking the page to temp accounts. Could you please reverse that and tell him to provide sources for the dates? ~2026-55066-87 (talk) 22:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC)

You win. I don’t want to be a part of this anymore. NikolajEgemar (talk) 14:30, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

It's not a question of "winning". Wikipedia has policies and one of those is WP:V. If you put information in an article without sources, it will simply be removed again. If you can find sources, that's great. Black Kite (talk) 17:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

Okay, I was more thinking of temp accounts. But thanks for the help. Black Kite NikolajEgemar (talk) 20:36, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

Disturbing behavior from user Alan Lober

Hi Mr. Kite,

Sorry to disturb you again, but Alan Lober has decided to escalate his behavior again by making a death threat to me. For more information see this discussion:

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User Alan Lober making death threat NarutoSan6000 (talk) 20:00, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

• Already on it. Black Kite (talk) 20:00, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

  Thanks. I've informed Hammersoft and Bobby Cohn as well. NarutoSan6000 (talk) 20:02, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

Blocking the underlying IP

When you do that, please indef the TAs as well. In three months we won't see what TAs were on or edits were from that IP, but if the TAs are blocked it makes it easier to track disruption and block for block evasion down the line. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:45, 21 October 2026 (UTC)

• OK. Black Kite (talk) 11:45, 21 October 2026 (UTC)

  Looks like Black Kite is the go to person for Blocking Ps that cause trouble? ~2026-56433-56 (talk) 22:55, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

"EasyPHP" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect EasyPHP has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 October 23 § EasyPHP until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)