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[edit]Bahrain
[edit]- Rain (cryptocurrency exchange) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Covered mostly in WP:TRADES, crypto publications, or routine corporate events like funding rounds, approvals by regulatory authorities. Fails WP:NCORP and WP:NCRYPTO. Gheus (talk) 19:12, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: Most of the sources are reputable and pretty much all sort of topics are covered including positive and negative. Funding rounds and being regulated seems positive but at the same time some negative news is also covered about lay-offs and hack attach. The intention and purpose seems to be offering information and adding value which can be improved to keep this article.
- 5.30.99.194 (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep:
BlombgerBloomberg, Reuters and the Dawn source are about how the business runs and was forced to cut staff, seems more than routine coverage of a company. Should be enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)- They were also the subject of a hack [1], which goes beyond routine business coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hacks are pretty common in crypto world - not an indication of notability. Dawn, Bloomberg, Reuters, are full of quotes and lack in-depth analysis (WP:CORPDEPTH). Gheus (talk) 17:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- They were also the subject of a hack [1], which goes beyond routine business coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the American and Arabian business media sources, which are really good and allow for establishing notability as they have more than passing mentions of the crypto exchange. While many sources are quite poor, and that is not good, and slightly too promotional, as for now. Insillaciv (talk) 08:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- You have to point out the sources. Otherwise, it looks WP:LLM output. Gheus (talk) 17:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. CORPDEPTH is not evident. The Bloomberg article is very thin. Crypto-related topics should enjoy very little benefit of the doubt because of the perverse incentives to game notability. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Layoffs and hacks, far from being "not routine coverage" are the definition of WP:CORPROUTINE, run-of-the-mill events that are typically exempt from newsworthiness discussions at news sources and will receive a primary "this thing happened" report almost regardless of the characteristics of the event itself. A strong argument would be required to overcome that presumption. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:45, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Bahrain Proposed deletions
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Egypt
[edit]- Kamal Hosni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is about someone who acted in one movie and nothing else. Seems too personal of an article with barely any real information on the individual. GamerPro64 05:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I am unable to find neither information about the person nor anything that indicates they even appeared in the movie mentioned. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Nagol0929 (talk) 05:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Possibly also notable as a singer. The corresponding article in the Arabic Wikipedia has several references that could be added to this one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well the sources have been added but I'm not sure they provide enough information to show how notable the subject is. GamerPro64 03:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- List of Cairo Higher Institute of Cinema people (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redundant to Category:Cairo Higher Institute of Cinema alumni Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- It has different information because some of the people are different professions (e.g., directors, actors, writers), and it is easier to look up alumni/faculty by profession from the list. Also some people are on the list who are not in the category. Also some people in the list are faculty members and would not be included in the alumni category. static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 21:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be willing to see the expansion of the category to include those people. I think a category is a better fit here unless there is secondary information about each person in the list that is necessary to understanding the group as a whole. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep There are a ton of lists that can be found through categories, like List of California Institute of Technology people. I don't see why this one would be an exception. User01938 (talk) 23:28, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Higher Institute of Cinema, where a shorter list of alumni already exists, and the parent article is not particularly long. Also, comparing to Caltech is laughable. Caltech is a world-class elite school. The Higher Institute of Cinema is not. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Their point was that this type of list exists for many universities and institutions of higher learning as a separate page, not that this institute is similar to Caltech static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- You're missing the point. Being an alumnus of an elite school can be notable, but not just any school. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is a major film school. Just because it is not notable to you does not mean no one in the world thinks it is notable. Maybe you are missing the point. static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:55, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Their point was that this type of list exists for many universities and institutions of higher learning as a separate page, not that this institute is similar to Caltech static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 11:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Egypt Proposed deletions
[edit]- Arab American Vehicles (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- East Mediterranean Gas Company (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Egyptalum (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- eSpace (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Herrawi Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Ibrachy & Dermarkar (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Mo'men (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Olympic Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Seoudi Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Shotmed Paper Industries (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Corona (confectioner) (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Starworld (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
- Bahgat Group (via WP:PROD on 2 November 2024)
Iran
[edit]- Operation fortitude(1958) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The title “Operation Fortitude (1958)” strongly evokes the famous WWII deception, but the article instead describes a Jordanian operation in July 1958. That mismatch between title and content misleads readers. The BO77! (talk) 19:47, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify Disregarding the invalid nomination rationale (the operation matching the name of a different historical event is common and is not a valid reason for deletion), the article is clearly unfinished so draftify so it can be completed. Jumpytoo Talk 20:36, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or userfy. Setting aside that the nom is about as bad as the article itself (does not present a single valid reason for deletion), and for unknown reason spammed this into irrelevant delsorts (like gamnes, but apparently not milihist...) this is just an unsourced infobox. Draft/userfy if the creator is active, delete otherwise (this may been meet WP:CSD). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Battle of Qarahamid (1510) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article relies entirely on obscure and partisan Safavid-era Persian chronicles that have not been corroborated by any Ottoman historical sources or modern academic works. Notably, leading Ottoman historians such as Halil Inalcik, Suraiya Faroqhi, Caroline Finkel, and Stanford Shaw do not mention any such battle occurring in 1510 under the name \"Qarahamid.\" Furthermore, the article’s sources are limited to internal court narratives without third-party verification or historiographical analysis.
The description of a 15-day siege and heavy Ottoman defeat contradicts known Ottoman military operations of the era and lacks substantiation in modern historical literature. The article does not meet the general notability guidelines nor does it provide sufficient verifiability as required by Wikipedia’s sourcing standards.
Per WP:V, WP:N, and WP:RS, this article appears to be based on fringe or nationalist interpretations and should therefore be deleted. Al Jazira Front (talk) 19:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- 2012 Iran Futsal's 2nd Division (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Going through these minor third-tier futsal leagues in Iran and tagging some for proposed deletion. This one has more sources than others, but none accessible seem to cover it at any significant length. Taking to AfD because not positive that this fails GNG. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: while not itself a reason for deletion (and I have no opinion in that realm), and easily fixable without deletion anyway, I can't imagine the continued presence of persistence of
will be
and similar phrases in an article for a sports season that happened 13 years ago is a good sign… that may indicate a lack of interest of updating the article, which would not be surprising if the significant coverage that would lead people to otherwise update the article and fix that while they're at it is also lacking. (But again, I have nothing to add on that count.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:07, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Adib Sobhani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability. Sources appear to be routine coverage, and there isn't much evidence that subject warrants a standalone article. Fails: WP:GNG. Also possible WP:PE. CycloneYoris talk! 19:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The existing references in the current article do not provide significant coverage (please see WP:SIGCOV), and the first reference is entirely non-reliable. I don't think the subject passes WP:GNG in any way. Baqi:) (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Arash (composer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks WP:Notability (general, music or otherwise) and independent sources. All music has been self-published, except one which appears to have been released through a label that according to discogs.com has five releases in total. It reads like a fan article if one is being generous. Millbart (talk) 10:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hootan Dolati (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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He is not notable. I couldn't even find him in news, Google (actually was mentioned in some posts about being in prison but not enough) or other search engines. Esteghlal Tehran Fans (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting, this article has already been to AFD before so Soft deletion is not an option.
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- Keep - Nothing seems to have changed from the previous AfD, and the nominator's account seems questionable. Warrants investigation. – Ike Lek (talk) 22:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - No rationale for deletion. The new that he was in prison is significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, nothing changed from last deletion review and there are various ciations in the farsi article, I will add translate to template. 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 23:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Haydaryan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This doesn't seem like it exists. AlexBobCharles (talk) 08:52, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Haydaryoon maybe is more accurate. Persian: "نیروی حیدریون".
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Iran Proposed deletions
[edit]- Standardized Patient (via WP:PROD on 29 January 2024)
Iraq
[edit]- Talal Hassoun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient SIGCOV found. The provided sourcing does not seem to be enough to justify notability, and the bloggish nature of the second source does give me concerns. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:42, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Weirdly there is no mention of Hassoun on either the Iraq at the 1980 Olympics page or the weightlifting at the 1980 Olympics pages. The second source reads, in its entirety in machine translation:
"Talal Hassoun Abdul Qader, born in 1953: He won 12th place in the Moscow Olympics in 1980, and also won second place with three silver medals in the World Military Championship in Libya in 1979. He won first place with three medals in the Arab Games in Erbil in 1980, and the gold medal and a bronze medal in the Asian Championship in Japan in 1979, and third place with three bronze medals in the Asian Games in Thailand in 1978."
- This short paragraph lacking any real biographical details does not rise to SIGCOV. I've carried out a search using their Arabic name (طلال حسون عبد القادر) but failed to find anything but mirrors of this page and mentions of other people with the same name. Lacks the necessary SIGCOV required by WP:NSPORTS. FOARP (talk) 09:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Per FOARP. Svartner (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Like others, I'm not finding the requisite WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. A check on the internet archive and google only revealed passing mentions of unrelated people. Let'srun (talk) 20:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - we need significant coverage and that's lacking. Is he still alive? Bearian (talk) 14:54, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is one of the biggest problems with the "of course this Olympian was notable! It's just that the coverage is offline because it was pre-internet!" argument: if they were notable, why is it that there doesn't appear to have been any obituary? In this case, the average life expectancy in Iraq is 71 years old and Hassoun is already past that. Now, if an obituary is eventually published in the coming decades then I'm sure this article can be recreated, but based on form it won't be published. FOARP (talk) 07:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- There's no obituary because he's likely still alive. He'd only be 72. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:12, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is one of the biggest problems with the "of course this Olympian was notable! It's just that the coverage is offline because it was pre-internet!" argument: if they were notable, why is it that there doesn't appear to have been any obituary? In this case, the average life expectancy in Iraq is 71 years old and Hassoun is already past that. Now, if an obituary is eventually published in the coming decades then I'm sure this article can be recreated, but based on form it won't be published. FOARP (talk) 07:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG. And as he's not mentioned at 1980 Olympics articles, there is no sensible redirect- and this leads me to question whether he actually appeared at the Olympics anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:22, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The way to check this is to look at the official report (these are helpfully grouped here). For the 1980 Summer Olympics the results and participants are listed in the 3rd volume (being communists, they had to spend the first two volumes talking about how great they were...). You can see a "Abdulkader, Talal Hassoun" listed on p. 627 of the pagination/p. 621 of the PDF. Weirdly the results seem to have him listed as having been in 11th place, not 12th, so the above website source appears to be wrong. The listing does appear to create some doubt about what his first name/last-name was though: was it Talal, Hassoun or Abdulkader? FOARP (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, names that do not follow typical Western name order of given/surname are often jumbled up in historical official reports and results, which complicates things even more. Connormah (talk) 22:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The way to check this is to look at the official report (these are helpfully grouped here). For the 1980 Summer Olympics the results and participants are listed in the 3rd volume (being communists, they had to spend the first two volumes talking about how great they were...). You can see a "Abdulkader, Talal Hassoun" listed on p. 627 of the pagination/p. 621 of the PDF. Weirdly the results seem to have him listed as having been in 11th place, not 12th, so the above website source appears to be wrong. The listing does appear to create some doubt about what his first name/last-name was though: was it Talal, Hassoun or Abdulkader? FOARP (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- A clear redirect target is Iraq at the 1980 Summer Olympics, although I have zero doubt he's notable given his championships and his being remembered just last year as a "pioneer" of weightlifting in Iraq. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The subject would actually need to be listed there though, otherwise it would be a WP:RFD candidate. Let'srun (talk) 16:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- He is now listed. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:57, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The subject would actually need to be listed there though, otherwise it would be a WP:RFD candidate. Let'srun (talk) 16:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Khalid Al-Karkhi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No SIGCOV found. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - Similar to WP:Articles for deletion/David Gillow, one of the cited sources seems to be a picture of a newspaper, but from a Facebook page. We have yet to exactly decipher where the newspaper came from. Until then, per WP:V, I can't count it since we don't know what newspaper this is about. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 21:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Incredibly obvious notability. We have SIGCOV here, a picture of an old newspaper story included in a post by the national Olympic academy (the Olympic academy's text indicates notability as well, e.g. "famous in the world of boxing / He fulfilled the dreams of the leaders of the Iraqi sports movement / he has been dubbed the "Golden Champion" for winning the only gold medal in boxing at the Arab Tournament, in which all Arab countries participated / When he retired from boxing, he never strayed far from the boxing atmosphere, remaining attached to its champions, especially those within the army national team, where he became the team's president for many years / to date, no boxer has occupied his position in his weight class / his name flies high among the flags of immortal champions."). There's a big difference here from Gillow, as we can actually read the full text and know it to be SIGCOV. Among other things, it notes he never lost at the national championships and was a well-known national figure nicknamed the "Golden Champion". Other modern sources such as this name him as one of the "sports stars" of his era. The odds of a nationally-known figure and famed "champion" of Iraqi sports remembered decades after his career – someone we've already demonstrated to have one piece of SIGCOV – not having any further coverage during his career (we have not checked any Iraqi archives) is 0%. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- It’s still not technically an independent source unless we find that newspaper directly and cite it directly. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 01:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- A newspaper doesn't become non-independent if its republished by an Olympic committee. WP:NEXIST. And do you seriously think there would be no further coverage in Iraq of their famous "Golden Champion" who never lost a fight in the country, won every national championship he competed for, and is remembered today as an "immortal champion" who "fulfilled the dreams of the leaders of Iraqi sports"? That would be a ludicrous assumption! Its obvious he's notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- no direct source of the paper itself, no NEXIST. If you can’t find the actual paper, you can’t cite it. That’s bordering on Original research. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 02:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, that's not how it works. If we have evidence that sources exist, and here it is incredibly strong evidence, then that is sufficient to keep. I don't see how information from a newspaper is possibly "original research" at all. Do you have reason to assume the Olympic organization would fabricate newspaper stories on him? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have reason to believe that the Olympic org as a non-indepnedent source would overblow the amount of coverage. Where is the actual direct citation of that specific newspaper? All I am asking for. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 12:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, that's not how it works. If we have evidence that sources exist, and here it is incredibly strong evidence, then that is sufficient to keep. I don't see how information from a newspaper is possibly "original research" at all. Do you have reason to assume the Olympic organization would fabricate newspaper stories on him? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- no direct source of the paper itself, no NEXIST. If you can’t find the actual paper, you can’t cite it. That’s bordering on Original research. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 02:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- A newspaper doesn't become non-independent if its republished by an Olympic committee. WP:NEXIST. And do you seriously think there would be no further coverage in Iraq of their famous "Golden Champion" who never lost a fight in the country, won every national championship he competed for, and is remembered today as an "immortal champion" who "fulfilled the dreams of the leaders of Iraqi sports"? That would be a ludicrous assumption! Its obvious he's notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- It’s still not technically an independent source unless we find that newspaper directly and cite it directly. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 01:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per BeanieFan11. Nixleovel (He/They) (Talk • Contribs) 05:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – Per BeanieFan11. Svartner (talk) 12:22, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Per @BeanieFan11. Also is there some sort of contest going on to see who can AFD nominate the most sportspeople because there seems to be a lot of late and many have quickly been proven to be ludicrous nominations the subjects of which have had loads of SIGCOV and were clearly notable? Just asking because if there's a prize I might join in! Anxioustoavoid (talk) 12:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Piling on at this point. The Knowledge Pirate (talk) 16:40, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Even though there is admitted piling on, I can't see how we are meeting WP:SPORTCRIT here, which says that
All sports biographies, including those of subjects meeting any criteria listed below, must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.
That is a specific subject notability requirement that one such source be on the page, and not just presumed to exist. If we can find actual sources, I'll revisit this, but as things stand, it has to be a delete per P&G. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- Elad Walach (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The CSD G11 tag was removed by an IP... Anyways, this individual is not independently notable from Aidoc, the company he co-founded. There are only two sources that ressemble some form of WP:SIGCOV:
- this article in SOFREP (which describes itself as "part news and part entertainment" and is written by veterans and not professional journalists). It begins with
Former Israeli Talpiot Program member Elad Walach and his company Aidoc are doing tremendous things in medical research
. - this article in The Jerusalem Post, which begins with the
A trio of Israeli co-founders of the start-up Aidoc, working on artificial intelligence to refine and quicken how radiologists read X rays
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The other cited sources appear to be either AI slop, WP:FORBES image galleries, or WP:DEPENDENTCOVERAGE. JBchrch talk 08:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Author response: I have improved the article and to now meet the criteria outlined in Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for businesspeople, while following the WP:NPOV and WP:RS standards based on the supportive feedback of this community. It now presents a verifiable and neutral biography of an executive actively engaged in the healthcare AI discussion and the impact on clinicians and patients.
- Independent and Reliable Coverage - Elad Walach has received coverage in third-party sources, including Forbes (30 Under 30, AWS clinical AI strategy, and BRIDGE framework), Modern Healthcare (40 Under 40), The Hill (co-authored op-ed with AMA president Dr. Jesse Ehrenfeld), Healthcare IT News, and Endovascular Today. These sources provide clear attention from the healthcare industry and establish independent notability.
- Industry Impact - As CEO and co-founder of Aidoc, Walach leads a company whose AI platform is in use at over 2,000 hospitals and has multiple FDA-cleared algorithms. As the head of that company it is important to document his approach and public comments on clinical AI, even if the platform has shown real clinical impact (e.g., stroke care improvements) and operational scale in enterprise health systems.
- Thought Leadership - In 2024–2025, Walach co-developed the BRIDGE framework in collaboration with NVIDIA. This framework for safe and scalable clinical AI deployment has been widely reported on by independent sources such as Forbes, Endovascular Today, and Healthcare IT News. This effort reflects Walach’s active role in shaping emerging clinical AI standards.
- Clear Notability Criteria Met - Walach satisfies Wikipedia’s businessperson notability criteria by:
- - Holding a significant executive role in a company of global reach and regulatory relevance
- - Earning multiple selective honors (e.g., Forbes 30 Under 30, Modern Healthcare 40 Under 40)
- - Receiving substantial coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources
- - Contributing materially to frameworks that guide the industry
- I believe my article has been brought in line with community standards, is neutral in tone, and includes strong citations. Deletion would not reflect the effort and quality now present. The purpose of which, is that he seems to be showing up more in more in these conversations and there does not currently exist a single source like this article that provides a clear picture of what he is working on and how it will impact clinicians, and more importantly, patients (especially in the US). UncleReyRey (talk) 16:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Additional note: I appreciate the feedback from the more experienced editors. This is my first article, and while well intentioned, has clearly been a learning experience. Most of my edits to date have been simple updates, fixes or source citations and I will continue to update the article as needed based on the feedback received. UncleReyRey (talk) 16:06, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete appears to fail WP:NACADEMIC. See Google scholar. In the above did you mean to link to WP:FORBESCON? This says written by Forbes Staff but it's just a series of pictures, so anyway, it's a passing mention. Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing it out, I've corrected the nom. JBchrch talk 20:33, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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Keep. The article has been significantly improved and now meets the criteria outlined in Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for businesspeople, while adhering to WP:NPOV and WP:RS standards. It presents a verifiable, neutral, and well-sourced biography of a notable executive in the healthcare AI field. Independent, Reliable Coverage: Elad Walach has received coverage in reputable third-party sources, including Forbes (30 Under 30, AWS clinical AI strategy, and BRIDGE framework), Modern Healthcare (40 Under 40), The Hill (co-authored op-ed with AMA president Dr. Jesse Ehrenfeld), Healthcare IT News, and Endovascular Today. These sources provide significant, non-trivial attention and establish independent notability. Substantial Industry Impact: As CEO and co-founder of Aidoc, Walach leads a company whose AI platform is in use at over 2,000 hospitals and has multiple FDA-cleared algorithms. Under his leadership, the platform has demonstrated real clinical impact (e.g., stroke care improvements) and operational scale in enterprise health systems. Thought Leadership: In 2024–2025, Walach co-developed the BRIDGE framework in collaboration with NVIDIA. This vendor-neutral, community-aligned framework for safe and scalable clinical AI deployment has been widely reported on by independent sources such as Forbes, Endovascular Today, and Healthcare IT News. This effort reflects Walach’s active role in shaping emerging clinical AI standards. Clear Notability Criteria Met: Walach satisfies Wikipedia’s businessperson notability criteria by:
The article has been brought in line with community standards, is neutral in tone, and includes strong citations. Deletion would not reflect the effort and quality now present. Recommend keep. UncleReyRey (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC) |
- @UncleReyRey: I have collapsed the comment you have posted per WP:AITALK. JBchrch talk 15:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, did I do that part wrong? I needed help taking my copy and converting into Wiki code since I use the visual editor. UncleReyRey (talk) 15:07, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Updated with my original text only copy UncleReyRey (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, did I do that part wrong? I needed help taking my copy and converting into Wiki code since I use the visual editor. UncleReyRey (talk) 15:07, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Omer Shem Tov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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As well as this article, these articles:
- Edan Alexander (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Eli Sharabi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Kidnapping of Liri Albag (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
...appear to fall under the scope of WP:BLP1E and WP:1E, which advise against creating standalone biographies for individuals who have received significant coverage only in connection with a single event. The subjects are not independently notable outside of that context, and reliable sources focus almost exclusively on their involvement in the October 7 attacks and following kidnappings. Wikipedia is not news and does not exist to document every individual who happens to receive temporary media attention. When a person's public presence is limited to one notable occurrence, and there is insufficient independent information to build a full, balanced biography, the subject is better covered within the article about the event itself. The articles in their current form function as pseudo-biographies, attempting to fill space with peripheral details (such as personal background or minor biographical trivia) that lack significant coverage in reliable sources. This does not meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion, and a redirect to Gaza war hostage crisis would more appropriately place the subject's notability in context. Smallangryplanet (talk) 19:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- I am in favor of removing it, or even combining them with his biography in a single article. Farcazo (talk) 20:18, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Farcazo Can you confirm that you actually are the ip-editor who changed their opinion from delete to keep? Lova Falk (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, I don't know who it is but I'm not him. Farcazo (talk) 20:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've already returned the response to normal. Farcazo (talk) 20:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Farcazo Can you confirm that you actually are the ip-editor who changed their opinion from delete to keep? Lova Falk (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: They're all non-notable individuals... Replace one name with another and the story is largely the same. Besides being held captive, they led routine lives, and wouldn't have an article otherwise. We have coverage of the person in RS, but I fail to see what makes each one different than the other. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - clearly WP:BLP1E. In addition to the pseudo-biographical details you note, these articles rely heavily on the individuals' own accounts of their captivity, which is borderline WP:BLPPRIMARY. The current coverage of these individuals at Gaza war hostage crisis is sufficient. EvansHallBear (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - All the individuals in these articles have received significant coverage in multiple RS. Their stories are extremely important to millions of people, and demonstrations around the world on behalf of the hostages have been extensively covered as well.[2][3][4] Also pinging @User:Lova Falk who initially suggested merging one of the articles (Liri Albag) but reversed course after a discussion.Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @User:Galaxybeing to request their comment on the C rating they gave the Omer Shem Tov article. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please note I have significantly enhanced the article since it received the C rating. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have excerpted a quote from the Associated Press: "The moment was emblematic of the newfound — and for Shem Tov, unsought and at times unsettling — celebrity the 22-year-old has found since his release from 505 days of captivity in the Gaza Strip." Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please note I have significantly enhanced the article since it received the C rating. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @User:Galaxybeing to request their comment on the C rating they gave the Omer Shem Tov article. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Eli Sharabi, at the very least. Sails past WP:NAUTHOR. His book is the first to be published by a released hostage and is the fastest-selling book in Hebrew literary history [5], it will be released internationally [6], and has been the subject of multiple independent reviews [7], [8], [9], [10].— Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhornsg (talk • contribs) 05:11, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Each biography should be evaluated separately. These individuals have received varying levels of coverage and public attention. For example, Eli Sharabi has clear independent notability due to his bestselling book and extensive media coverage. A blanket deletion rationale under WP:BLP1E is inappropriate. not all cases are alike. Eliezer1987 (talk) 05:42, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Fully agree with Eliezer1987 that each of them should be evaluated separately. Lova Falk (talk) 08:54, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- As long as the discussion includes all three individuals, I strongly support keeping the article. These are people who became notable not only because of their time in captivity, but also due to their actions after being released. In the case of Eli Sharabi, he also published a book that became one of the most sought-after titles in Israel in the weeks following its release. Eliezer1987 (talk) 07:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Fully agree with Eliezer1987 that each of them should be evaluated separately. Lova Falk (talk) 08:54, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep This is for Omer Shem Tov and not the other three articles. The thing that made me decide for keep is this sentence in the lead: "Following his release in February 2025, Shem Tov traveled internationally to advocate for the release of remaining hostages, appeared and spoke at public events, and met with political figures." Lova Falk (talk) 08:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete when it comes to Edan Alexander.
- Keep Eli Sharabi because of the book.
- Keep Liri Albag, because of this sentence: Albag’s experiences and actions have made her a recognized figure in Israel and internationally, especially in the context of the Israel-Hamas conflict and the campaign for the release of hostages.Lova Falk (talk) 08:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Substantial sustained media coverage of the crisis makes them likely notable. This goes beyond one event. One event refers to something otherwise minor like a plane crash. Also, they seemed to have remained in the news for vaarious reasons after release, per Lova Falk and Longhornsg. Metallurgist (talk) 22:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - BLP1 doesn't apply because (1) it was an ongoing event, and (2) it has had continuing and significant coverage. This nomination takes the guideline to an extreme level. Also, please don't give them any ammunition to destroy us. Bearian (talk) 09:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep all including Edan Alexander and Liri Albag. BLP1 doesn't necessarily apply to individuals especially they have received significant coverage from various news sources about their experiences about being held captivity. Even after they were released, news still continue covering their journey. For example, Eli Sharabi is going to publish his own book about his experiences about being taken hostage and that would garner more significant attention. A sentence mentioned in Liri Albag's article made her clearly notable given her brave actions in saving a hostage from execution, for her experiences about the trauma she endured while taken hostage and also being a public figure in ensuing the release of all hostages. All these should be kept. Galaxybeing (talk) 11:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please note I have added to the lead of the Edan Alexander article: The negotiations and advocacy to secure his freedom became emblematic of international efforts to resolve the hostage crisis. Upon his return, Alexander received a hero’s welcome in his hometown of Tenafly, New Jersey, with hundreds gathering to celebrate his return. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Kidnapping of Omer Shem Tov. It's clearly WP:BLP1E, but there's still a reasonable amount of coverage about him. SMasonGarrison 23:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or Rename: WP:BLP1E and WP:1E are not grounds for outright deletion, only advice to not have a biography. The circumstances of their kidnapping and release can be covered as an event. These articles might need renaming if there is not enough biographical details to prepare a good biography. The article naming should be consistent with the way other articles about violent crimes are named. See WP:CRIME and WP:NCRIME - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and Do Not Rename: I am skeptical that WP:BLP1E and WP:1E should be applied to experiences that lasted 400+/500+ days, which is not typically the case with most events those guidelines likely contemplated. In any case, the articles all have material beyond the "one event" that this AfD raises (such as Omer Shem Tov Post-release activities, Eden Alexander Post-release_activities, Eli Sharabi Post-release, and Liri Albag After her release, and often additional material in the lede paragraphs). Any renaming proposals should be discussed separately in individual article proposals, rather than in one fell swoop in this AfD. Coining (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The scope and breadth of the reliable and verifiable sources about these individuals and their experiences demonstrates that the notability standard has been satisfied. Alansohn (talk) 02:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk · contribs) 03:00, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ishay Hadas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A brief glance at the article will reveal that this person is a minor Israeli political activist, who has also done some undistinguished work in their television industry. The sources include several interviews with him and hardly establish notability. A parallel article in Hebrew was deleted following a vote, and two consecutive attempts to nominations for restoration did not garner sufficient support. I find the use of English Wikipedia as an alternative venue unsavoury. AddMore-III (talk) 18:54, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Significant and sustained non-trivial coverage exists of both his social and political activism. For example, and in addition to the refs in the article, the BBC and Ynet reported the former ([11] and [12]) and The Times of Israel and Middle East Eye reported the latter, calling him "a prominent anti-government protester" ([13] and [14]). Dorsetonian (talk) 19:25, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- The "social activism" concerns a single Ethiopian woman. I'd hardly call that notable. As to that massive political activism, being arrested while hanging a sign and then being briefly mentioned in the news is quite negligible. AddMore-III (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- You may consider the social activism to be non-notable, but I am persuaded otherwise by the existence of coverage by the BBC and others. Similarly, you may regard the political activism to be negligible but the news articles do not so lightly dismiss him - this was no one-off arrest for posting a sign; The Times of Israel article states that he is "one of the organizers of a weekly demonstration" and the Middle East Eye calls him a "prominent" protester. The argument that the presence of the article is "unsavoury" seems to me to be a clear expression of "I don't like it", but that is not a valid reason for deletion. Dorsetonian (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- The "social activism" concerns a single Ethiopian woman. I'd hardly call that notable. As to that massive political activism, being arrested while hanging a sign and then being briefly mentioned in the news is quite negligible. AddMore-III (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets GNG for reasons stated above. --Omer Toledano (talk) 06:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: step III at WP:AFD was not followed when nominating this article. I have now done that and the page is included in today's log. Dorsetonian (talk) 10:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Yaakov Shapiro (American rabbi) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears non-notable. Trivially mentioned in a few reliable sources, extensively quoted in one Mondoweiss piece. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro has received independent, non-trivial coverage from third-party sources such as Tikkun Magazine and Portal Cioran, and has participated in public discourse on Zionism vs Judaism, including podcasts and conference appearances. While some sources are hosted on platforms like WordPress, they are not self-published blogs but journalistic or scholarly essays. His media visibility and distinct theological stance justify notability under WP:NBIO. The article can be improved further with additional citations, but it meets the basic threshold.Arbabi second (talk) 21:16, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- The Tikkun "source" is nothing but two un-annotated links to YouTube and Facebook. Portal Cioran appears to be a blog, with no byline, staff, or editorial policy. Having a "distinct theological stance" definitely does not justify notability. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete does not appear notable and poor sources.Metallurgist (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I was unable to find a significant number of credible sources. Sethi752 (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No SIGCOV. gidonb (talk) 13:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment This book lists him as an expert consulted [15]. This book talks about him including some description of him [16]. He is interviewed in this book [17]. He is quoted in these:[18][19]. He might qualify for WP:AUTHOR because he is widely cited, including by: [20][21][22][23][24][25] Notable or not, he certainly strikes me as quite an unorthodox Orthodox. – Ike Lek (talk) 07:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where is the SIGCOV? gidonb (talk) 20:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say there was any. I don't have full-text access to most of these, so I don't know. I didn't !vote. I'm just trying to be helpful. Ike Lek (talk) 20:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- For sure! Just checking if you have solved this problem. gidonb (talk) 00:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say there was any. I don't have full-text access to most of these, so I don't know. I didn't !vote. I'm just trying to be helpful. Ike Lek (talk) 20:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where is the SIGCOV? gidonb (talk) 20:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Solstice Coil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. The article relies heavily on primary and niche fan sources. There is very little significant coverage from reliable, independent sources that give any in-depth discussions of the band. They have never been signed to a major record label, their music has never seen any chart success, and there is no clear historical significance of the band, therefore they do not meet the standard of substantial, independent coverage required to establish notability. Magatta (talk) 05:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - the Hebrew Wikipedia article, סולסטיס קויל, cites two Ynet articles.[26][27] --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. This is a valid review in Israel's most sold newspaper. Not niche at all. I wonder if there are more. gidonb (talk) 03:25, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relistihng. Not eligible for Soft deletion.
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Relisting comment: Final relist. Please do not just comment but offer an opinion on what should happen with this article.
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- Delete Article is WP:REFBOMBed with mostly one-off primary fan sources or unreliable sites (YouTube, etc.). The new reference in Ynet is just an album review, not really about the band at all. Without anything specifically about the band I don't see how there can be an article, especially one this detailed. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 10:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- Rony Khawam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. A search on the Eastmain MENA database and google turned up nothing other than results about unrelated people. Let'srun (talk) 15:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per lack of a clear redirect target. Svartner (talk) 16:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I think this one has potential to have sources. He has also been recorded as competing for Liberia. [28] I'd love to hear is anyone was access to this: [29]. – Ike Lek (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Polish Wikipedia lists his Arabic name as رونالد خوام but that doesn't seem to be correct. Ike Lek (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- The NewspaperArchive source is just a listing of results: "
Hassen Ben Gamra, Tunisia, def. Rony Khawam, Lebanon
". Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)- Thanks Ike Lek (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- Barakat Al-Sharji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment – according to Russian Wikipedia ru:Оман на летних Олимпийских играх 1984, he was 16 years old when he competed and was the youngest competitor from his country. Wouldn't be surprised if that sparked coverage either in Oman or in the USA. – Ike Lek (talk) 00:19, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, turns out he is also currently a CEO. Sometimes he is mentioned as "Barakat Salim Al-Sharji" or "Barakat-Salim Al Sharji". Going to look into this further. Ike Lek (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- So far all I have been able to find is this newspaper that refers to him by his brother's name [30] and this interview of questionable independence [31]. Some help from an Arabic speaker would be appreciated, because I can only do so much searching with Google translate and I honestly really struggle with the script. Ike Lek (talk) 03:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, turns out he is also currently a CEO. Sometimes he is mentioned as "Barakat Salim Al-Sharji" or "Barakat-Salim Al Sharji". Going to look into this further. Ike Lek (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Amor Masoud Al-Sharji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Oman at the 1984 Summer Olympics#Athletics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 02:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oman at the 1984 Summer Olympics#Athletics : No indication of notability is present here or elsewhere. The only current reference is a database. Fails to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 15:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails sig cov. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oman at the 1984 Summer Olympics#Athletics as WP:ATD. All I could find were passing mentions. More could exist, but I couldn't find it. – Ike Lek (talk) 20:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oman at the 1984 Summer Olympics#Athletics as WP:ATD Nixleovel (He/They) (Talk • Contribs) 05:21, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oman at the 1984 Summer Olympics#Athletics per above. ZachH007 02:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Palestine
[edit]- Al Ittihad SC (Nablus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Been tagged since 2023 for citations, was trying to have a go on finding sources, however the Al-Ittihad Club is Jeddah, Saudi Arabia dominates results. The information must have come from somewhere, although I feel it might have been entered first hand and not using secondary sources that we need. This at the moment fails WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, unless someone can prove me wrong. Regards, Govvy (talk) 08:50, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – The Arabic article is far more expansive. An assessment of it would be good. – Ike Lek (talk) 09:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of football clubs in Palestine#West Bank – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 11:32, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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Delete One source, uncited, minor team in a little known league. Not notable.Metallurgist (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 18:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - if redirected inclined to move to Nablus city page; i.e. the Nablus#Sports section. Lf8u2 (talk) 01:33, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- The Nucle Saga I (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NBOOK. Sources 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8 are WP:PRIMARY sources - the book itself, the author's website, the author's YouTube channel, etc. Sources 1, 2, 6, and 9 are promotional articles - either an interview of the author or an article about the book launch. These are excluded under WP:BKCRIT #1: publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book
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[edit]- Ottoman capture of Zeila (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article fails GNG and NEVENT. Minorincident, no sources found showing this has WP:SIGCOV from WP:RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. Most sources cited are just a passing mention of this incident, absolutely no significant notability to warrant its own article. Socialwave597 (talk) 02:17, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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This article relies entirely on obscure and partisan Safavid-era Persian chronicles that have not been corroborated by any Ottoman historical sources or modern academic works. Notably, leading Ottoman historians such as Halil Inalcik, Suraiya Faroqhi, Caroline Finkel, and Stanford Shaw do not mention any such battle occurring in 1510 under the name \"Qarahamid.\" Furthermore, the article’s sources are limited to internal court narratives without third-party verification or historiographical analysis.
The description of a 15-day siege and heavy Ottoman defeat contradicts known Ottoman military operations of the era and lacks substantiation in modern historical literature. The article does not meet the general notability guidelines nor does it provide sufficient verifiability as required by Wikipedia’s sourcing standards.
Per WP:V, WP:N, and WP:RS, this article appears to be based on fringe or nationalist interpretations and should therefore be deleted. Al Jazira Front (talk) 19:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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This article suffers from significant verifiability issues and relies heavily on sources that appear to be self-published, primary, or not considered reliable according to WP:RS. Many of the citations are to non-academic or potentially biased sources, and several are in Arabic or Turkish without clear indications of their academic standing or independent third-party verification. The article has persistent "citation needed" tags and "fan's point of view" warnings that have been present for a significant time (since at least May 2025). The narrative appears to be primarily drawn from sources that may lack the independence and rigor required for historical topics on Wikipedia. Given the contentious nature of historical events involving ethnic conflicts, a high standard of reliable sourcing is crucial, which this article currently fails to meet. Therefore, I propose deletion unless significant reliable, independent, secondary sources can be provided to establish its notability and ensure verifiability. Artash47 (talk) 23:49, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Fuat Akbaş (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to be PROD'd because of inclusion in a mass nomination from 2021 which was withdrawn. GNG fail so far - no sigcov hits on Google. Tried searching the Cumhiyet archives also, unable to access those so there may be potential searching there, but from what I could access on my end, nothing. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 14:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Turkey at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Wrestling – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 07:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Turkey at the 1924 Summer Olympics#Wrestling: The only references are databases, and I couldn't find anything better to support notability. Appears to be a WP:BIO1E. Let'srun (talk) 18:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered with two entries at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or separately at articles for the locations of the crashes. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:16, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per first discussion. If not then merge with List of traffic collisions (2000–present). Moondragon21 (talk) 17:24, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have in-depth nor sustained continued coverage of the event itself with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks per the above. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:58, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- delete Everything here is news coverage within days of the accidents. There's no suggestion of anything lasting. Mangoe (talk) 02:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]United Arab Emirates
[edit]- Dibba Al-Hisn SC (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reverted redirect without improvement. Currently not enough sourcing to pass WP:VERIFY. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:10, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. AFD is waste of time/wrong venue per WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP, the club played in the 2024–25 UAE Pro League so this must be solved editorially. Geschichte (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep going to the Arabic wiki, copying the article title, and searching it brings up a wealth of local and national coverage. Easily passes WP:GNG. English coverage harder to search for just because all of the database sites come up first but there are a couple English language match reports as well. SportingFlyer T·C 19:35, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – Needs improvements, but easly pass in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Arabic! Yes, the article needs TLC, but it passes GNG! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There was no consensus or even a discussion to redirect the team to the city on 11 June. [32] The subsequent events seem to be taking that redirect to be the status quo. WP:BEFORE is a thing, two things can be true at the same time: 1. The page is crap and has no sources, 2. The subject is notable and played last season in the top UAE league. Redirecting for lack of sources is usually just a consideration about living people, not organisations. The subject comes from a country with Arabic script, so searching in ABC's won't bring up local and national coverage. Unknown Temptation (talk) 11:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per above arguments which show notability. GiantSnowman 11:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ramakrishnan Sivaswamy Iyer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bunch of non-notable awards in unreliable, unbylined sources. Has a lot of coverage but none of it is in reliable sources. The Gulfnews article is the only good source among them, but it isn't enough for WP:GNG. ATDR - Transworld Group (shipping and logistics company) Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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Comment Nominator has said that the awards are non-notable, my comment about the awards are as follows
1. I don't know why and how the award given by President of India recommended by Ministry of External affiars, India, is non-notable?
2. Forbes has listed this personality in Top Indian Business Leaders In The Middle East 2021, how Forbes is non-notable?
3. The Maritime Standard Awards are the prestigious awards of Middle east and Indian Subcontinent. Questioning this award also doesn't make sense.ABDB1 (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment The article does seem promotional, but I tend to agree with the above comment that it is a bit ridiculous to call those awards non-notable. – Ike Lek (talk) 06:14, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep:
Pravasi Bharatiya Samman is a very notable award and there's good media coverage about him receiving the award. Also as a chairman of a notable company since 1989, the subject is likely to pass the notability guidelines. Zuck28 (talk) 06:41, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Holding my nose here because the article's promotional and some of the media sources are pretty woeful BUT recipient of a notable, bluelinked award Pravasi Bharatiya Samman gets 'im past GNG. And AfD is not cleanup, no? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:28, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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I would have draftified this but it’s long past the 90 day limit so bringing here for consensus. I’m not sure about notability and my preference is to send to draft for possible improvement. . Mccapra (talk) 10:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - far too much promotional material and too few citations. Bearian (talk) 17:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- STS Group (Dubai) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. The article lacks sufficient independent, reliable sources to demonstrate notability. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:34, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep the organization is the largest school transport provider in the country, has quite a lot of coverage from Khaleej Times & Gulf News. The UAE govt has collaborated with the company [33]. It's most certainly notable here. jolielover♥talk 13:46, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep notable and well-cited in various media, including Khaleej and similar outlets. More sources could perhaps be added. Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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