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2024 Derdghaya Melkite Church airstrike

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WP:NOTNEWS. Following WP:PAGEDECIDE, every airstrike in a broader war doesn't need its own page. This material is covered on Wikipedia on the 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, to where this page should redirect. Longhornsg (talk) 01:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Military, Christianity, Israel, and Lebanon. Longhornsg (talk) 01:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Notable event that received international coverage and reactions, similar to Church of Saint Porphyrius airstrike and Killing of Nahida and Samar Anton. There is a difference between redirecting singular airstrikes and whitewashing the bombing of an entire religious structure with civilians inside. (Which was already attacked 3 times previously per the article) Red Phoenician (talk) 02:11, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please stick to policy, which this Afd is based on. WP:ITSIMPORTANT and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Longhornsg (talk) 02:18, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are right about WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, as for WP:ITSIMPORTANT if you want me to be more specific, as partly stated before:

1. The article is about the destruction of a cultural and religious building which involved multiple civilian deaths.

2. It received international coverage from various news outlets with articles dedicated solely to covering the event.

3. It received statements from non-domestic leaders, Pope Francis and Cardinal Pizzaballa.

4. It recieved post event coverage.

I fail to see how the article is insignificant enough to be relegated to a redirect. Red Phoenician (talk) 02:55, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In addition to a flurry of international press at the time of the event, there was much coverage of the church during the Christmas and Easter seasons following. There's also coverage in this journal article. Some other sources not used included Giannopoulos, Bill (October 12, 2024). "Israeli Airstrike Targets Melkite Greek Catholic Church". Greek City Times. and Frayer, Lauren (December 23, 2024). "What the Israel-Hezbollah war did to Lebanon's cultural heritage sites". NPR. This article refers to the church as heritage site. This wasn't just any building, but a historic 19th century church. I would support a move to an article on the church itself if someone cares to locate sources and go that direction. The bombing(s) could be covered in a larger article on the church itself. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable and relevant, also the reasons outlined by Red Phoenician and 4meter4. JJNito197 (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lean ~~delete~~. We dont even have an article for this church. We need a WP:ISRAELDIDATHING essay comparable to WP:TRUMPCRUFT. ←Metallurgist (talk) 23:47, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention Derdghaya barely has anything on it, even in Arabic. ←Metallurgist (talk) 23:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This just falls under WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Red Phoenician (talk) 15:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it demonstrates that the place isnt notable to begin, so an attack there isnt particularly notable. This is another element of PIACRUFT. ←Metallurgist (talk) 17:09, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I should add that I am not opposed to merging to Derdghaya. May actually switch to redirect on that basis. ←Metallurgist (talk) 17:16, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources including international sources and secondary sources, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:52, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because it is a notable event that deserved its on page. Qhairun (talk) 05:34, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon per WP:SUSTAINED, and anything needed can be merged there. No need for a separate page on this per WP:PAGEDECIDE, as there's not much here and essentially no prospect for further expansion, given that no new RS coverage is happening. Jclemens (talk) 06:35, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 01:56, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or redirect: to 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Some information could be merged, but a redirect would also be fine. Just another battle in a long war, no lasting notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:31, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:35, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fadel Adib

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Associate prof who has made a good start, but an h-factor of 31 in a high citation field is WP:TOOSOON, particularly as almost all his awards (e.g. Sloan, Career, ONR) are starter grants. I do not see a rationale to treat a MIT academic any different from elsewhere, so we should not open the flood gates. He can wait until he reaches the same bar we would apply to others. Ldm1954 (talk) 21:25, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Engineering, and Massachusetts. Ldm1954 (talk) 21:25, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:42, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Doherty Chair in Ocean Utilization is an associate-level named chair so it doesn't count for WP:PROF#C5, but I think the citation counts (2 quad-digit and 16 more triple-digit) are enough even in a high-citation field for WP:PROF#C1. Weak because that's the only criterion I see a pass of; the awards are early-career grants, best paper awards, and the like, which don't pass #C2. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:24, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@David Eppstein, did you compare to his co-authors such as Dina Katabi , Robert C. Miller , Shyam Gollakota? They have h-factors etc is the normal range for WP:NPROF in a high citation area. Ldm1954 (talk) 03:03, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Miller's GS profile is badly curated with publications #1, #2, and #6 by other people with similar names. And for topics such as this with consistently high citation counts, the h-index is the wrong statistic to use: it is more about seniority (having the time to have published enough papers in that high citation range) than it is about research impact. The peaks are more important. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:28, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Weak) Keep -- per Eppstein's citation count research (h-index alone isn't the only factor when certain individual citation numbers are so high). And while any individual early career award isn't enough, when there is an ocean of them they add up to conferring general notability (on this ocean researcher). -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 20:53, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note that MIT is one of the few universities that has two levels of associate professor: pre- and post- tenure; Adib is post tenure which makes a significant difference in my assessment. (Oh, and a semi-COI to declare: I was a professor at MIT until recently, though I never crossed paths with Adib). -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 20:53, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a comment, I don't think MIT is that unusual, Northwestern also has untenured & tenured assoc prof. Full prof is a step up and normally is tenured, although I know someone who was hired as an untenured prof with a promise of a rapid tenure decision. Ldm1954 (talk) 03:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting primarily because the Keeps are Weak Keeps so allowing this discussion to continue on for a few more days.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:16, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete This seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON he seems to be making lots of inroads in the field of computer science and has an impressive publishing record for someone so young but not enough solid coverage or secondary sources yet for the page. Agnieszka653 (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:49, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Subject meets multiple notability standards under WP:PROF and WP:GNG. Adib is a tenured MIT associate professor whose research on wireless sensing and ocean IoT has been covered extensively by independent, reliable outlets including MIT News, Ars Technica, Computerworld, Nature Communications, MIT Technology Review, and Forbes. He is a recipient of the Sloan Research Fellowship, NSF CAREER, ONR Young Investigator, ACM SIGMOBILE Rockstar, and Great Arab Minds Award, all of which demonstrate academic and professional significance. The article is well-sourced and requires cleanup for citation density, but not deletion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TarynCheese (talk • contribs) 18:22, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2023 Israel rocket attacks (via WP:PROD on 12 September 2003)