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Minneapolis DFL

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Notability isn't established, content is POV, and edits were only made on the first two days of the page's existence (June 1-2). There's a lot of POV content here right now, which isn't well-sourced (e.g. ideology in infobox). In part, this article feels like a way to include POV claims about the DFL that would be erased sooner on a more-viewed page.

The History section is not especially specific to the local endorsing unit but rather to the history of the DFL and general history of Government of Minneapolis, repeating information already on, or better suited to, those pages, and is poorly sourced. The founding date claim in the infobox copies the state DFL, and "recent activity" just summarizes existing pages on those elections.

I propose MERGING the structure section, and possibly other relevant info, to the Party Organization section in Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (which could also mention other localities if needed), and MERGING composition history (currently under Election results section) to the election pages Minneapolis City Council and Mayor of Minneapolis. Some of the content here would do better as a general "politics in Minneapolis" page, which would be a more appropriate place to discuss political party strength over time. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 16:38, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MERA25 Hessen

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Was deprodded with the rationale, "consider merge or redirect to MERA25 as preferred WP:ATD". However, like I always do prior to prodding, I did consider a redirect to MERA25, but it is not mentioned at that target, so that would be inappropriate. And there is really nothing of substance to merge. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Land Restitution Movements in Zimbabwe and South Africa

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The article looks like it was generated by an LLM. I have already removed non-existent references that were probably hallucinated by the LLM, and the claims that those references purported to support. The remainder of the article is poorly sourced. The topic looks as though it is notable, but I suggest WP:TNT because the content, as unchecked LLM output, cannot be trusted. SunloungerFrog (talk) 07:27, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TNT. Topic is probably notable but LLM-generated articles are a concern with WP:V. Let someone redo the article from scratch. Also, I just don't want to encourage editors who think they can create a junk article with ChatGPT in 30 seconds and rely on other editors to clean it up. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:TNT applies, but I'm not even convinced the topic is notable. It's titled like an essay. SportingFlyer T·C 23:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above - another story / essay from this creator, who has "written" other AI disasters, at the worst possible time, during the battle of the Billionaires. Bearian (talk) 16:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to obvious LLM usage. The article was created because of this editathon. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 06:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pan-African Congress on Reparations

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The article looks like it was generated by an LLM. I have already removed non-existent references that were probably hallucinated by the LLM, and the claims that those references purported to support. The remainder of the article is poorly sourced. The topic looks as though it is notable, but I suggest WP:TNT because the content, as unchecked LLM output, cannot be trusted. SunloungerFrog (talk) 06:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete possibly notable, but the article seems unrecoverable. Let's start from scratch. SportingFlyer T·C 10:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Probably notable but with the WP:V concerns raised by LLM used, the article can't be trusted. Also we should not encourage editors who want to create articles with LLM's and then wait for others to fix their problems. Let them redo it the right way. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
we never trust the article, we trust reliable sources. If the topic is notable, reliable sources exist. —Rutebega (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. Unsourced or unverifiable claims by LLMs are not more dangerous than those inserted by random IPs, and they have no bearing on deletion policy. Grind this thing down to the stump by all means, but deletion seems to me totally symbolic and a much bigger waste of time. —Rutebega (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're citing an essay, which also almost immediately notes that However, some articles do reach the so-called TNT tipping point: an article should exist, but the article (and all the versions in history) is too deeply flawed to work from. When that point is reached, deletion provides a reset, and gives editors a clean slate. I would also note unsourced or unverifiable claims by LLMs are more dangerous, because they're clearly made up out of cloth, but are presented with authority. SportingFlyer T·C 23:47, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. The creator claims to be a "story teller" but seems to be making up stories: several pages created by AI have been deleted or in the process of being deleted for the same reasons. This could not happen at the worst possible time. Bearian (talk) 16:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Disagree with the keep vote. If the claimed notability of the subject relies on made up sources, then the main problem is not cleanup being needed, it is notability. Yue🌙 22:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. Yet another article created because of this editathon. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 06:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maud Maron

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Outside of unsuccessful campaigns for office (WP:POLOUTCOMES), the sources are only brief mentions, not really going in-depth about the individual, with some not even mentioning the subject that I could find. She has been involved in various organizations but still, no significant coverage. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like reasonably significant coverage to me, as does this (a campaign gets mentioned, but just briefly; it's not candidate coverage.) Both are NY Daily News, so they only count as one source, but still an indicator. Also, about different events, so it's not a WP:BLP1E matter. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may have accidentally linked the same source twice Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and I was fixing that while you were noting it! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep (might even be WP:SNOW) - I'd say the combined coverage easily passes WP:GNG at this point. WP:NPOL points out that being an unelected candidate doesn't automatically guarantee notability, I'd say between the two unsuccessful ones and announced third and all the other coverage on her political or anti-trans views easily passes the hurdle.

I pulled up some of the 2024+ sources cited and this A Culture-War Battle Convulses a School Panel in Liberal Manhattan - The New York Times article centered on her is very much in depth coverage on her (mentioning her 24 times throughout the article). The article In Private Texts, NY Ed Council Reps, Congressional Candidate Demean LGBTQ Kids – The 74 is another pretty deep coverage with 34 mentions. NYC elected officials, teachers protest at right wing Moms for Liberty event and National debate over transgender athletes comes to New York City - POLITICO & Moms for Liberty's NYC event may have attracted more protesters than guests - Chalkbeat is also centered on the discourse around her.

Also while I was looking at sources, I came across a whole other scandal from 2024 that isn't even mentioned in the article, but likely should - apparently she was removed from her position, following an investigation by the New York Education Department in June 2024 (NYC Removes Two Parents From Local School Boards Over Behavior - The New York Times & NYC Ed Dept. Orders Parent Leader to Cease ‘Derogatory,’ ‘Offensive’ Conduct or Face Removal – The 74) and subsequently a judge re-instated her Citing Free Speech Violations, Judge Reinstates NYC Parent to Ed. Council – The 74 - the article currently only mentions her removal due to WP:PIA comments, but it looks like it was actually based on both PIA, as well as transphobic comments made, so we should add those sources and ammend the article.

So I'd say overall, just from the few above that would likely already be enough for GNG, combine that with her prior failed runs for political office, the stint in the school district, and now another run puts her into perennial candidate territory and we can probably add her to the List of perennial candidates in the United States as well. Raladic (talk) 00:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I shouldn't !vote, because we have mutual connections, but I feel obligated to say that she has gotten a lot of free press, in part due to being a perennial candidate. Bearian (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't see anything that's not local campaign coverage. While some perennial candidates are eligible for articles, I don't see that shows she's made any lasting impact as a failed candidate in any of the sources. Sources above aren't helpful either as they enter into the routine - any headline which describes someone as "A Manhattan parent" necessarily implies the person the article is written about isn't known to the public by their name. SportingFlyer T·C 23:54, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you miss the transphobia/hate-speech council removal and federal judge reinstatement of her on free-speech grounds case I referenced above, and her related involvement with a SPLC tracked extremist hate-group and their events? I just found a couple more sources on that: Ousted NYC school board member seeks job back as controversial regulation faces legal challenge, Federal judge reinstates ousted NYC school board member Maud Maron, cites free speech, NYC school board members with ties to right-wing Moms for Liberty ousted in local election? The countless WP:RSP's coverage of this, which has nothing to do with her failed or ongoing political candidacies, is more WP:SIGCOV than we have for many articles and easily passes WP:NBASIC, ignoring the several political candidacies coverages, is easily enough to justify the article.

I think the current presentation of the article has some weight issues as it currently looks primarily (especially the lead) focused on her failed/ongoing political candidacies, and the section on the other coverage is missing a lot of the content (including most of the sources I listed in the AfD here) that should be added.

You called out that some of the headlines don't say her name (some do, but most reference her role as a school board member as that's more head-liney), but keep in mind that WP:HEADLINES calls out that we don't pay much attention to them and source our articles from the body of the sources. Raladic (talk) 01:58, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a school board in America is a political entity and that's pretty clearly all local political coverage to me. SportingFlyer T·C 12:27, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Strong coverage that isn't just local campaign coverage; things like this New York Times piece have just a passing mention of her history as a candidate, and are not done in the heart of a campaign, while this Daily News piece doesn't mention any candidacy. The idea that a headline has to mention the subject by name in order to indicate their notability is at odds with our standards on both headlines and notability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, subject of several articles as highlighted by Raladic and Nat Gertler including CBS News, New York Times, New York Daily Times, meets WP:SIGCOV. SDGB1217 (talk) 22:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Militant

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Nothing but an dicdef with usage examples --Altenmann >talk 17:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a dicdef. The article is about the term "militant", not about militants. Anerdw (talk) 17:41, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I've often thought WP:DICDEF gets thrown around too much at AfD, but in this case it is absolutely proper: the lede is even The English word militant is both an adjective and a noun, and it is generally used to mean vigorously active, combative and/or aggressive, especially in support of a cause, as in "militant reformers". No issue with recreation if we can write a topic about militants. SportingFlyer T·C 19:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Very rarely have I seen an article that is so explicitly a dictionary definition. Militant (disambiguation) should be moved to this title and I think some brief discussion and see also is okay there but not a page like this. Reywas92^Talk 21:20, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTDICT. Surayeproject3 (talk) 22:22, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf's Lair (book)

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Borderline failure of WP:NBOOK. The author and publisher are both non-notable. There are three sources in the article and I could not find more during WP:BEFORE. The second source [1] seems fine as an independent review. The first source [2] has a conflict of interest: the reviewer discloses at the end that he was a guest of honour at the launch event of Wolf’s Lair. The third source [3] is mainly a short interview of the author, which is excluded under WP:NBOOK: publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. Astaire (talk) 00:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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New Politics (1950s)

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Delete. There is no significant coverage in reliable sources. In fact, I'd go so far as to say there is no coverage of this concept. A search of EbscoHost via the Wikipedia Library does not reveal a 1950s "New Politics." JSTOR likewise turned up nothing. A search of Adlai Stevenson New Politics on the Internet Archive reveals a number of results, but a reading of those books does not show it as a 1950s Stevenson-centric movement, but rather as a descriptor of McCarthy and RFK Jr in the 1960s. A search of Illinois Periodicals Online, an NIU project, the only context of "New Politics" is a review of a book about opposition to Daley the First. Mpen320 (talk) 03:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The concept does not seem to exist outside Wikipedia. Dimadick (talk) 14:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I was not sure when added the links whether this was original research or not. It seems plausible. I'm still not sure. Bearian (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Interestingly I've found quite a bit of information linking Stevenson to a "New Politics" movement. [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] and in the book "Battling Bella: The Protest Politics of Bella Abzug" which would be able to give a definition if I could access the full text. I can't access almost all of these, but there's clearly some sort of topic here. Whether it's about a 1950s concept currently discussed in the article or a 1960s-70s concept I'm not completely sure, and it's completely unsourced at the moment. However, I'm convinced that if someone put work into a New Politics (Democratic party) article it would absolutely be a notable article. SportingFlyer T·C 22:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Communist Party of India (Marxist) — Tamil Nadu

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Fails WP:GNG. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 16:16, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails notability. The Post article only discusses the communist party in a single sentence and only to note that it fared even worse than other parties. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Prob keep - it feels like the Tamil Nadu state committee of the CPI(M) has independent/separate notability from the central politbureau. Here are some recent press about their activities 1 and 2 and 3. Seems like other good RS probably exist showing that the notability criteria have been met. JMWt (talk) 20:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the problem of these radical, Modernist parties is that they're all "action" without results - no policies they got instituted, no elections won, no political lobbying. It's news about games where nobody wins or loses. Bearian (talk) 14:22, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean by no elections won given they have members in the Lok Sabha and state assembly. Unless I'm missing something, those politicians were elected. JMWt (talk) 09:07, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. If there is more coverage found, let me know. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary of the Democrats of the Left

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Probably not notable as no Italian article Chidgk1 (talk) 05:05, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2025 Iowa Senate District 35 special election

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Also nominating the following:

Building off previous consensus that state legislative special elections are not inherently notable. See previous discussions:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Alabama Senate District 5 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Rhode Island Senate District 4 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Oklahoma State Senate special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Connecticut House of Representatives District 40 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Delaware Senate District 1 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 California's 32nd State Assembly district special election

I don't see a reason why any of the pages I'm nominating rise above your average state legislative special election in terms of notability. I'd support a redirect to 2025 United States state legislative elections#Iowa, though merging to a newly created 2025 Iowa elections page could work if someone was willing to make that page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 00:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep of Iowa SD 35. Received national attention. NYT, The Hill. Was perceived as possible indicator of national atmosphere. Support redirect/merge for the other two per prior discussions Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge these should just be merged, no need for AfD. We don't want to lose any of the information. I don't think the coverage above qualifies SD 35 for its own article, it can easily be covered in a special elections article. SportingFlyer T·C 06:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all Per the prior AFD, individual state legislative elections don't need standalone articles. The Iowa race should also be merged. The result was significant because it flipped, but neither of the national sources above actually has much actual substance about the campaign, the article has the least content of any of these, and there's no reason either the general 2025 elections article or an Iowa-specific one can't include relevant prose pointing to commentary on the flip. Reywas92^Talk 13:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Iowa 35 per the sourcing found by Yoblyblob. There was non-routine national coverage of that race. Merge the remainder of the articles (and basically all state level special election articles this year except for Pennsylvania 36) to the correct 2025 United States state legislative elections section. Esolo5002 (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it was routine - both articles just discuss the result, whereas we'd need more sustained coverage to keep it as a stand-alone. SportingFlyer T·C 18:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue with a sustained coverage requirement is that most federal special elections would fail that requirement, and no one is suggesting deleting those articles. A non-local coverage requirement would probably work better. Atriskofmistake (talk) 20:06, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Federal special elections are often merged as well. This isn't about deleting the information, it's about whether it's notable enough for a stand-alone page. SportingFlyer T·C 20:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you are thinking of because, as far as I can tell, that is false. The last federal special elections (besides those held congruently with regular elections for the same seat) to not have individual pages were for two Hawaii house seats held in 2002-2003. Despite getting very little coverage after the election most of the time, federal special elections have widely been deemed noteworthy enough to have individual pages. This isn't to say that state legislative special elections should be given the same treatment, but that sustained coverage can not be used as a requirement for any election's notability. Atriskofmistake (talk) 20:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep SD 35 as it flipped and got some coverage (example: https://www.newsweek.com/iowa-senate-ditrict-35-election-trump-2022621), merge the other two, do not delete the pages before a merger is done Atriskofmistake (talk) 19:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. While I know that other news outlets ran articles about the results of the election, Newsweek is not a particularly strong source. --Mpen320 (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not aware of any precedent that elections that result in a flipped party need standalone articles. Dozens of state legislative seats flip every year during the regular general election and receive similar coverage about the results, but they can be covered in a main page. Very little of this source is substance that would be used to build a standalone page, and it could be included in a merged article. — Reywas92^Talk 15:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Create 2025 Iowa elections. There have been multiple special elections in Iowa in addition to various local elections. It makes the most sense to create that page for all 2025 elections (see 2025 Alabama elections as an example). While the election got national attention, Wikipedia is not news. I know I'm not precognitive, but I do not see the election on its own passing a test of historical significance. --Mpen320 (talk) 03:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Iowa-35, which flipped a seat and got loads of significant coverage for weeks. I'm not sure about the other ones. Bearian (talk) 18:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Louisiana Senate District 14 special election

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Also nominating the following:

Building off previous consensus that state legislative special elections are not inherently notable. See previous discussions:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Alabama Senate District 5 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Rhode Island Senate District 4 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Oklahoma State Senate special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Connecticut House of Representatives District 40 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Delaware Senate District 1 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 California's 32nd State Assembly district special election

I don't see a reason why any of the pages I'm nominating rise above your average state legislative special election in terms of notability. I'd support a redirect to 2025 United States state legislative elections#Louisiana, though merging to a newly created 2025 Louisiana elections page could work if someone was willing to make that page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 00:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Is there a reason why you're taking these to AfD instead of just being BOLD or using a merge discussion? These aren't really AfD material as we don't want to lose any of the information, they just don't need individual pages. SportingFlyer T·C 06:41, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Atriskofmistake (talk) 19:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Massachusetts House of Representatives Bristol 3 special election

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Building off previous consensus that state legislative special elections are not inherently notable. See previous discussions:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Alabama Senate District 5 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Rhode Island Senate District 4 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Oklahoma State Senate special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Connecticut House of Representatives District 40 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Delaware Senate District 1 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 California's 32nd State Assembly district special election

I don't see a reason why any of the pages I'm nominating rise above your average state legislative special election in terms of notability. I'd support a redirect to 2025 United States state legislative elections#Massachusetts, though merging to a newly created 2025 Massachusetts elections page could work if someone was willing to make that page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge, information may need to be updated as a recount seems to have happened (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEEEelqF0lg) Atriskofmistake (talk) 19:58, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Maine House of Representatives District 24 special election

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Building off previous consensus that state legislative special elections are not inherently notable. See previous discussions:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Alabama Senate District 5 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Rhode Island Senate District 4 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Oklahoma State Senate special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Connecticut House of Representatives District 40 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Delaware Senate District 1 special election

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 California's 32nd State Assembly district special election

I don't see a reason why any of the pages I'm nominating rise above your average state legislative special election in terms of notability. I'd support a redirect to 2025 United States state legislative elections#Maine, though merging to a newly created 2025 Maine elections page could work if someone was willing to make that page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge, for reasons I have stated previously, and I would appreciate it if these articles were not deleted before a merge page could be created, as has happened a few times, despite there not being a strong consensus for redirect as opposed to merge, or in fact a stronger consensus for merge. Atriskofmistake (talk) 19:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Georgina Downer

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Last AfD was no consensus Fails WP:NPOL, has only been a political candidate. Also WP:NOTINHERITED, a lot of coverage refers to her as the daughter of Alexander Downer. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Downer family. Notability is not inherited and as a failed candidate for political office, they would not meet NPOL. I'm not seeing enough here to say that their journalism or diplomatic careers meet notability standards.

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Keep as a perennial candidate such as Sharron Angle. In the alternative, merge selectively and redirect to her family's article. Bearian (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a candidate he is notable Monhiroe (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unsuccessful candidates don't meet NPOL. Obviously you haven't read this article as the article subject is female. LibStar (talk) 00:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect - had to think about this one, but she is not a perennial candidate - she ran twice and attracted some media because of her family ties, and we say nothing about her that isn't the fact she lost two elections in two years. There is nothing here that can't be covered in the pages on the election or on her family's article. SportingFlyer T·C 22:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

War on Crypto

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Non-notable neologism, article cobbles together a ton of sources that never mention or use the phrase "War on Crypto" nor support the concept. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, definitely a real notion, even if in the tradition of a conspiracy theory. Hyperbolick (talk) 21:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Says which sources? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Washington Post. Hyperbolick (talk) 02:18, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So, a quote from Donald Trump using a turn of phrase. No ownership of the notion in WashPo’s voice, and no discussion of it as a legitimate concept. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 02:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's right. As a meme or a conspiracy theory, being called true by POTUS is heavy weight. Hyperbolick (talk) 05:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Come on, this is ridiculous. If it were a notable meme or conspiracy theory, it would be discussed as such in reliable sources. And this Wikipedia article does not treat it as a meme or conspiracy theory; it treats it as a real thing with the proper title-cased name “ War on Crypto” ꧁Zanahary꧂ 12:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as multiple independent reliable sources cited in the article use the phrase "War on Crypto" to describe the phenomenon. Or merge into Crypto Wars, as it represents a continuation of the same efforts in a new application domain. DefaultFree (talk) 22:42, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which sources connect this to the crypto wars?? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ones that describe efforts by the United States to limit access to cryptographic tools. DefaultFree (talk) 22:52, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please show some sources that describe this article’s “war on crypto” as directly relevant to the “crypto wars”. Thanks in advance. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:06, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://reason.com/2024/05/01/groundhog-day-for-the-crypto-wars-the-doj-on-bitcoin-prowl/, cited in the article, draws a direct comparison: It's a stunning flashback to the 1990s "crypto wars". You're welcome. DefaultFree (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article makes no mention or use of the neologism “war on crypto”. Consider yourself both thanked and welcome. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Regulation of cryptocurrency. This article's author linked this as the main article at Cryptocurrency#Regulation so the title should match. There's a lot of legitimate content and space to expand here, but the title and implication for the article's content is not neutral. Reywas92^Talk 23:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Per WP:BEFORE, the nominator created this AfD only eight minutes after the article was posted, leaving themselves insufficient time to examine the 64 sources listed at the bottom of the article. The sources clearly demonstrate the "War on Crypto" is not a neologism, but a term that is directly and repeatedly used by major publications including Politico, Bloomberg, Forbes, and more, with some even including it in their headlines. If people would like to verify for themselves, I will include every article that makes mention or goes in great detail discussing this. Without further ado, here are all the sources for your reading pleasure. ^[1]^[2] ^[3] ^[4]^[5]^[6] ^[7]^[8] ^[9] ^[10] ^[11] ^[12] ^[13] ^[14] ^[15] ^[16] ^[17] ^[18] ^[19] ^[20] ^[21] ^[22] ^[23] ^[24] These show WP:SIGCOV since there is a plethora of mainstream, independent reliable sources. Additionally, there are other sources that reference Warren's "anti-crypto army" which indirectly lends credence to the notion that the term is appropriate since wars have armies. Since this meets WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV easily, the page should be retained. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 01:01, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From a random selection from this selection of links, I see the use of “war on crypto” as a turn of phrase (as in “SEC goes to war with crypto”)—which does not validate such a named concept as a “war on crypto”, just as a glut of articles that use the phrase “war on food dyes” in coverage of food additive regulation doesn’t support the existence of such a named concept as a “war on food dyes” (imagine also: a high number of news hits for “battle for racial justice” doesn’t mean that there is a phenomenon called “the battle for racial justice”); then I see a lot of articles that just include direct quotes that include that phrase, without discussing the term qua term. Can you narrow your list to just the sources that actually discuss something called “war on crypto”, in the source’s own voice, treating it as a proper name? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 01:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to Zanahary's comments, the use of this phrase is just in the US context and the non-US sections and sources don't use it. One headline about China says "War on Crypto Mining", which is a very different concept. I'll restate that the article's information and sourcing is good if presented as a general regulation article, but not with this title. — Reywas92^Talk 01:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding WP:SIGCOV, the standard is not that the the sources needed are sources that discuss the War on Crypto in "the source's/journalists own voice." The standard is that it must "addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content." That is exactly the case here. Also, according to WP:COMMONNAME, the title of the article should prefer "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources)" which is the case here. Also, the War on Crypto mining^[25] is a relevant subset of the War on Crypto, similar to how the War on Terror against Al Qaeda is a relevant subset of the War on Terror. Notably, only 1-2 sources stated, "war with crypto" instead of the majority that I provided saying "War on Crypto" as its own phenomenon. For example, this source,^[26] has multiple section titles describing the content of the article one of them being, "A war on crypto" and another one being "What was behind the SEC war on crypto." Additionally, the whole topic of the article stemmed from one Garlinghouse quote where he says, "'People are like, 'Why did these companies come together and organize and say, 'This matters"?' Garlinghouse said. 'And it's a reaction to a war on crypto.'" These are other sources similar to that.^[27]^[28] This article,^[29] has the title, "Big Battles Loom in SEC’s War on Crypto." This article talks about,^[30] "'The war on crypto in the US led by the SEC under Gary Gensler is over which, hopefully, leads to a healthy regulatory relationship between the industry and financial regulators,' Stuart Alderoty, Ripple’s chief legal officer, said in a statement to The Hill." This article is entitled,^[31] "The US government just declared war on crypto." This is just a handful of sources that I linked that definitely show that the War on Crypto term is the one utilized and therefore, the proper title according to WP:SIGCOV. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is so completely not the common name. See WP:NPOVNAME, which says to avoid Trendy slogans and monikers that seem unlikely to be remembered or connected with a particular issue years later [and] Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious. This is not even the common name, and if it were, those would apply. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Except these sources largely do not establish this phrase as a name. These are lowercase "a war on crypto" used in passing, not as an official, formal, or even common name like "The War on Crypto" you used with capital letters to start the article. This is an encyclopedia and should cover the topic of regulation – even if intended in some cases to be heavy-handed and restrictive – broadly and neutrally rather than with a loaded title and unnecessarily narrowed scope. This term could be mentioned somewhere that it's a claimed epithet but not in the first paragraph. — Reywas92^Talk 17:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Regulation of cryptocurrency per nom and Reywas92. I'm surprised this article doesn't exist yet. Besides the title issue, there are POV problems and WP:UNDUE content, but those can be resolved through editing. Alternatively this could be draftified if others think the issues are too problematic. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I support this rename; the POV definitely needs to be cleaned up and the centering and in-wikivoice reification of the neologism after which it’s currently titled needs to be scrubbed. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 12:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comment that pertains to WP:SIGCOV and WP:COMMONNAME.Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Regulation of Cryptocurrency per Reywas and Helpful Raccoon. Some useful info which expands on Cryptocurrency#Regulation, the article could be cleaned up and better sourced but should not be deleted. – jfsamper ^{(talk•contrib•email)} 12:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my comment that pertains to WP:SIGCOV and WP:COMMONNAME.Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There are numerous sources and the article doesn't seem "cobbled together" by any reasonable interpretation. The phrase is used across multiple reliable sources with the CBS News source quite literally titling a section "What was behind the SEC war on crypto". I looked to see if this should be merged into Crypto Wars but that is a completely different topic with a much broader scope than cryptocurrency, getting more into cryptography. As such, this is a keep. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This should be closed and the title issue should be resolved through WP:RM instead of AFD. Nobody here supports deletion after @Zanahary expressed support for a rename. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If this is becoming a referendum on the title and content, then let it unfold (say I). It ain't broke. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – The article title was clearly WP:NPOV; the article content needs a review for neutrality. Yue🌙 07:00, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (International Newsletter)

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No significant coverage in reliable sources that I could find online. Some print sources about Maoism and Third Worldism mention it in passing as an attempt to unite Maoist groups before a split (into the other similarly named article). Yue🌙 05:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete doesnt seem notable, barely sourced. Socialismcruft? Metallurgist (talk) 23:48, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks notability.--Staberinde (talk) 19:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to my reply to your deletion proposal on the Revolutionary International Movement's page, the ICMLPO was heavily involved in the revolutionary movements of the countries of the respective groups. Thus, I suggest a stub or citation needed tag. For example, the Communist Party of the Phillipines, which currently wages a guerrilla struggle, was a former member. Strongestsoldier465 (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (Unity & Struggle)

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No significant coverage in reliable sources that I could find online. Some print sources about Maoism and Third Worldism mention it in passing as an attempt to unite Maoist groups before a split (into the other similarly named article). Yue🌙 05:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete probably could have nommed the three together. Metallurgist (talk) 23:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks notability.--Staberinde (talk) 19:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retain needs citations. Strongestsoldier465 (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which citations from where? Geschichte (talk) 06:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Revolutionary Internationalist Movement

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Non-in-depth coverage in independent, reliable sources. Print sources that mention the group (that I could find) are limited to works authored by Maoists or which feature very brief mentions. To my knowledge the group did not do anything significant; most online mentions from unreliable sources like Marxist-Leninist and Trotskyist blogs note its members made a joint declaration (as most organisations would do), but nothing else. Yue🌙 05:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Wikipedia has dozens of articles on communist "internationals" like this one, see Category:International socialist organizations. I suspect that most of those organizations have received no more dead-tree coverage than this one. However these articles do serve a navigational function by grouping together political parties that agreed with each other enough to form an organization of this type. In that respect the section listing member parties is probably valuable to some readers and it's a shame to lose it. But WP:GNG is king so I don't expect this to be enough to save the article. In this particular case there's probably some worthwhile content that could be merged to Revolutionary Communist Party, USA if the article is deleted.Prezbo (talk) 12:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTADIRECTORY Metallurgist (talk) 23:50, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not sure how I feel about this. Seems a bit more substantive than the other two related noms, but seems barely notable. Metallurgist (talk) 23:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of the six citations given, three are from unreliable primary / self-published sources and three are scholarly articles from the same author, Benoît Cailmail. Cailmail mentions the RIM in passing in all three articles as the theses of his works are on the communist movement in Nepal.
Knowing the influence of Shining Path (one of its members) as well, I searched for mentions of Movimiento Internacionalista Revolucionario, but failed again to find significant coverage in reliable sources.
The most likely place to find reliable coverage for an organisation most active in the 1980s and 1990s is in physical print materials, but I doubt that would be a fruitful search given the group did not do much together aside from having a publication, which many communist groups do. Yue🌙 05:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest a poor citation or stub tag. Nearly every group in RIM has been involved to some extent in armed revolution in their respective countries, with the PCP, TKP/ML, CPN(M), CPI(ML), and GRIA being the most notable. They're also notable as being the international group within which the primary basis for the ideology of Maoism was laid. Their "joint statements" (which they had many of in their 20+ years of intensive organizing) have influenced the current revolutionary movements in India, the Phillipines, Palestine, etc. Strongestsoldier465 (talk) 06:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Higino A. Acala Sr.

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Barely any reliable sources seen in Google Books and in an outside search. His role doesn't seem notable, as he doesn't have any coverage (the movement seems quite notable but only in law sources). Other than that, he isn't notable whatsoever. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 04:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I was unable to find a copy of the listed reference - Elvin A. Cabañero; Higino M. Acala Jr. (2000). Biography of Higino Acala Sr - on the Internet; though as one of the authors appears to be his son, it is probably not sufficiently independent regardless. Curbon7 (talk) 04:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've spent some more time looking for sources with a number of search queries, but none have returned any significant coverage (actually, this returned almost no sourcing at all besides name-drops in lists of lawyers in the Philippines [10]), and I do not think the book above would be reliable as it is written by two relatives. The subject did not hold an WP:NPOL-qualifying position, nor does he appear to pass WP:GNG. There is no obvious WP:ATD target, so delete. Curbon7 (talk) 04:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trump–Powell conflict

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Appears to be pretty textbook definition of trump cruft. One sided dispute with just comments from Trump. Esolo5002 (talk) 00:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment — I planned to work on this later today. Powell and the Federal Reserve's stoicism is not unexpected and not the barrier for article creation; the AfD rationale, in general, lacks substantive policy. To preemptively address notability concerns, this dispute goes far beyond comments; the White House is now investigating the Federal Reserve and could use that as the basis to remove Powell, an unprecedented action. There are much more sources than what has been provided here. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:10, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Please stop using these awful short footnotes. They are a pain to use in visual editor and it's annoying to readers who have to click the footnote a second time to actually see the reference. This should only be used when many citations require page numbers, like for academic topics when it's more common to cite a book by an author multiple times, not general news sources. I want the name of the article cited, not "Smialek 2019a." Anyway, History of monetary policy in the United States is unfortunately pretty weak, particularly for recent history, but I think something like Monetary policy of Donald Trump would be more appropriate. It's not a personal conflict, it's one-sided complaints with policy implications. Reywas92^Talk 04:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not relevant to this AfD. I wouldn't be opposed to a rename, but let's not assume that this is an unviable article, either. Plenty of sources that can be included. What other editors should note is that, as of these last several weeks, firing Powell is not just a common Trump lament, but a potential effort from within the White House. A CNN article lightly covers that and aptly notes other dynamic at play. In terms of tangible notability, a Google search for Trump and Powell yields hundreds of usable results that are continuing to come in; for that reason, writing the Second presidency (2025–present) section has proved difficult. The Responses section is also an area that would show notability. It would be amiss not to mention the jockeying for Powell's successor, though I intentionally avoided it in this article as it is not directly relevant to the conflict, which is why a move might not be a bad decision. I'll leave my comment with a Reuters article from six hours ago that broadly covers the implications of the conflict on investors. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even from this morning, Trump drafted a letter to fire Powell and waved it around. There is much more to this than what is in the article and this AfD was created too hastily. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MERGE into Powell's article. This doesn't deserve its own separate article. CNC33 (. . .talk) 15:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or delete. Crufty and not really notable. Could go on eithers page or a Trump subpage. Nothing has happened with it yet, so its just the usual Trump bluster that would yield a hundred articles a day. Metallurgist (talk) 22:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rumors about the removal of Xi Jinping

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Per WP:RUMOR. Rumors about Xi's removal have flared up periodically almost every year (does anyone remember the coup rumors of 2022?). Article seems to be LLM generated, large parts of it is uncited, and almost none of the sources really confirm what the article says (indeed, some argue against any rumors). The Account 2 (talk) 18:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. Strong sense of being LLM-generated pet theory material. JArthur1984 (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I'm not sure what this is, appears a SYNTH, the last two sources are about a loss of power, not particularly about a removal. The others pick certain items in the text to paint a picture that isn't supported by the article. Could be a brief mention in the article about the person, but nothing for notability. LLM usage is also concerning. Oaktree b (talk) 20:30, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. - Amigao (talk) 21:05, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per reasons given. As additional notes, I'm also getting an LLM vibe; the As one commentator in The Australian observed: bit is so stiff. Also the tone of this writing does not match this user's other writings. And relatively poor sourcing. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh wait the user admitted it's ChatGPT generated. [11] grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:34, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why do people think LLM usage is good or acceptable? Its so infuriating. Metallurgist (talk) 22:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete LLM junk and baseless speculation, poor sourcing. Metallurgist (talk) 22:35, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - very clearly LLM-generated, plus I can only echo all of the aforementioned concerns re. poor sourcing and synthesis. Patient Zero^talk 23:12, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - While I think one theoretically could write a proper article about this subject, this mess is likely entirely LLM-generated, and unsalvageable in this form. This is a WP:TNT situation, I feel. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also note, for posterity's sake, that the editor -- or more realistically, the LLM -- is participating in a whole bunch of WP:SYNTH as well. Most of the sources are real, but in many, the link to a possible removal seem to be argued by the LLM, not a reporting of the sources connecting those dots. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 00:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Now that the LLM generated content looks to be gone, we're left with a bare article without any references. I agree with the last comment, it should be started over; no sense in keeping it around for now. UmbyUmbreon (talk) 01:48, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why are such clear pieces of evidence being ignored, especially when they focus so obviously on the Xi Jinping ouster rumors and come from the most authoritative sources?
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Did you really just call two deprecated sources and four AI content farms "the most authoritative sources"? Yue🌙 21:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you search "Xi Jinping ouster" on Google, or search for "시진핑 실각설" in Korean, one finds hundreds of articles focused entirely on the rumor itself, making it impossible to reasonably claim that the topic lacks notability under Wikipedia standards. The evidence is overwhelming. Even if this page is deleted, I sincerely ask that the content be merged into the main Xi Jinping article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Packer25 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We're not claiming a lack of notability, it's the synthesis and the poor sourcing that was present. Oaktree b (talk) 13:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, definitely claiming lack of notability here. A rumour sourced to deprecated sources and AI slop is definitely not notable. Yue🌙 21:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: WP:NOTNEWS drivel, cited in part from an unreliable tabloid. Borgenland (talk) 04:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:STARTOVER. Seems like it’s snowing right now? Jumpytoo Talk 04:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all of the above. Keivan.f^Talk 06:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator, all of the above, and WP:SNOW. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 19:52, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - needlessly offensive, and unreliable sourcing for what is a BLP. Bearian (talk) 09:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:RUMOR. Grahaml35 (talk) 01:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Racism in Columbus, Ohio

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WP:NOPAGE. I believe previous discussions such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tenant harassment lawsuits and cases in Santa Monica and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climate change in Baden-Württemberg, where a broad topic is given a hyperlocal framing, are relevant here. This article is essentially a history of racism in the United States - the Great Migration, Jim Crow laws, redlining, Brown v. Board of Education, etc. - as applied to a single city. It would not be feasible to have hundreds of articles about "Racism in X U.S. city" with generic content like this. There is nothing extraordinary about the history of racism in Columbus in particular to justify an article. For example, the article currently says that Columbus is the 55th most racially segregated city in the U.S. out of 112 cities - right in the middle of the list. Some of this content can be selectively merged to Columbus, Ohio and Columbus Division of Police. Astaire (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom and seems a bit coatracky. Metallurgist (talk) 22:37, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge first 4 paragraphs of History section to Columbus, Ohio#History, delete the rest. Much of this article (sadly) applies to just about every major city in the US, making this a bit of a WP:COATRACK for a generic topic. Other parts of the article might be merge-able to Racism in the United States, as a city-specific example. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:50, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG, as there are plenty of great sources here which are specifically about this large American city. It is fine to have local history in Wikipedia naming particular people, places, and events, even if other cities have comparable circumstances. And other places in Amercica do have similar circumstances, because in Category:History of racism in the United States by state or territory, we have several hundred other articles about location-specific circumstances. The nominators are correct that Wikipedia does not seem to currently have any other "Racism by American city" articles, but I am entirely sympathetic to the idea of documenting the intersection of cultural heritage and places, especially when we have so many sources. I also recognize WeirdNAnnoyed's complaint that lots of the history is repeated from other places, but in this article, I see either uncited claims which have other Wikipedia backing like links to main articles which do have citations (" safe for African Americans to visit... only four survive: the Macon Hotel, the Hotel St. Clair") or kind of routine, but with a local authority cited like https://doi.org/10.2307%2F2714730 . As a general principle, I would support anyone creating articles for any well documented civil rights movement in any city, regardless of potential repetition, just so long as there were local sources and wiki-notable concepts to report. Bluerasberry (talk) 23:52, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
passes WP:GNG I actually don't think it does. This source is specifically about racism and public health. This source is specifically about redlining. This source is 80 years old and is mainly about "Negro life" rather than racial discrimination. And the other sources in the article are even less useful. Where are the sources that discuss "racism in Columbus" as a whole, uniting the different topics discussed in the article? If there are none, this runs into WP:BADTHINGS issues, as other users have said.

Wikipedia does not seem to currently have any other "Racism by American city" articles Not only are there no other "Racism in X U.S. city" articles, there are not even any "Racism in X U.S. state" articles. As far as I can tell, this is the only subnational article about racism in any U.S. location. And there is probably a reason for that: the creator (who is now inactive here) appears to have been very passionate about creating articles on local Ohio topics. Yes, this is a WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument, but the argument grows in strength when there are hundreds of cities and 50 states, all of which you argue could have their own "Racism in X" article, and yet none of them exist. We should ask ourselves why that is. Astaire (talk) 06:16, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Astaire: Wikipedia's bar for passing GNG is very low - just two articles on the topic. I se no ambiguity about this article passing GNG. For a topic, we need articles which address that topic, and there is no identify a broad textbook with a unifying vision. As you say, we have articles covering distinct aspects. These include racism in Columbus Ohio for housing discrimination, police, protest events, tourism, and social justice programs. There is no source which combines all of these into a unifying narrative.

While we do not have other racism by American articles, we do have demographic by city articles including LGBTQ culture in Chicago and History of African Americans in Houston. Intersectional topics in Wikipedia are inconsistent because they are low-readership and because we have few editors. Despite this, building out local culture is common in Wikipedia and we have many such articles, even if we do not have complete national sets.

The creator - whose page I watch, and through whose talk page I found this discussion - has been prominent in Wikipedia for their views of thoroughly documenting culture by cities. I think this is a good thing, and wish local historians and interested community members would build out whatever local perspectives they like. Wikipedia does not have a size limit, and we have no need to prune content which passes fact-checking and topical relevance just because a topic is local to the level of a city. Even after all these years, it is also still okay to do new things in Wikipedia. Interest in city history is quite common in every city in the world, even if our Wikipedia editorial ancestors hardly did this. I am in favor of every city in America building out articles like this if anyone organizes content of this quality. Bluerasberry (talk) 13:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no source which combines all of these into a unifying narrative. Yes, this is exactly my point: there are sources which cover aspects of the subject, but no source that directly addresses the topic of "racism in Columbus" as a whole. So the case for GNG is dubious.

Compare this with your example of LGBTQ culture in Chicago, where the "Further reading" section gives three whole books that are directly about the general subject.

There is a stronger case for reworking this into History of African Americans in Columbus, à la your second example, since this article is already halfway there. And there are indeed sources which address that topic as a whole: e.g. [19], [20] Astaire (talk) 18:51, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Wikipedia wants unifying narratives, and this article is deficient for not having one. Despite that, I still feel that GNG is a much lower standard than that.

It could be nice to have an article titled, History of African Americans in Columbus, but if we did, this content would be WP:UNDUE to merge into that for showing a long focused history on only one aspect. We could not just rename this article to be about culture. Also, I do not think we should delete the content of this article just because it is not connected as a subtopic to something higher in the hierarchy. I could establish a brief parent article if that helped the case for this one, but if I did that, the parent article would be a placeholder for a later editor to add more and contain a subsection on racism which pointed to this article. I do not think it is realistic to attract anyone to build a Columbus focused African history article in the next few years though. Bluerasberry (talk) 12:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think these sources give unifying narratives over decades, from probably 1800s to 1940s. From the wiki article -

"Frank Uriah Quillin, who wrote in his 1913 book The Color Line in Ohio: A History of Race Prejudice in a Typical Northern State: 'Columbus, the capital of Ohio, has a feeling toward the negroes all its own. In all my travels in the state, I found nothing just like it. It is not so much a rabid feeling of prejudice against the negroes simply because their skin is black as it is a bitter hatred for them.'"^[1]^[2]

References

^ Oliphint, Joel. "Cover: The roots of Columbus' ongoing color divide". Columbus Alive.
^ Himes, J. S. (1942). "Forty Years of Negro Life in Columbus, Ohio". The Journal of Negro History. 27 (2): 133–154. doi:10.2307/2714730. ISSN 0022-2992. JSTOR 2714730. S2CID 149546155.

Bluerasberry (talk) 12:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:GNG, there is no guarantee 2 sources will be considered enough. I guess it could happen, if they are great on-topic sources with extensive coverage etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG. 71.231.11.148 (talk) 05:36, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Libertarianism in South Africa

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This article has languished since 2008, effectively functioning as an advertisement for fringe viewpoints. Much of it is uncited, and its only citations are to obscure libertarian websites. Most of the article was written by Trevor Watkins, who namedropped himself throughout the article. A cursory search on Google Scholar doesn't bring up much for either "libertarianism in South Africa" or "South African libertarian".

As this article is, at best, a blatant piece of self-promotion with no citations to reliable sources, and as there is little significant coverage of the subject in reliable, independent sources, I'm nominating the article for deletion. Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. Sal2100 (talk) 19:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Yue🌙 21:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994

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Not notable. Landpin (talk) 09:43, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there is scholarly commentary including [21] and [22] (just reviewed the abstract for the latter, but those two sources are not at all exhaustive for an otherwise simple AfD proposal) SportingFlyer T·C 10:39, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also this looks formatted like an LLM... but it's not an LLM. SportingFlyer T·C 10:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Controlled waste. I don't think the individual regulations need standalone articles. This should be discussed holistically in a main article with these sources. Reywas92^Talk 14:08, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to an appropriate target, possibly the Environmental Protection Act 1990, under a new section there. Bearian (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to British environmental law or another suitable target. Highly dubious independent notability. —Rutebega (talk) 18:10, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999

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Not notable. Landpin (talk) 09:42, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep needs an update, but appears easily sourceable through scholarly texts on water regulations: [23] SportingFlyer T·C 10:41, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Water supply and sanitation in the United Kingdom#Water regulation. I don't think the individual regulations need standalone articles. This should be discussed holistically in a main article with these sources. Reywas92^Talk 14:10, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as suggested by Reyeas92, or to Water Industry Act 1991, with a separate section. Bearian (talk) 08:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per Reywas92. Sources I can find either mention the legislation only in passing or discuss it only in combination with other similar regulations. —Rutebega (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Socialist Equality Party (Australia)

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Non-notable party that was deregistered due to lack of members. I was unable to find any significant coverage about, only minor mentions. I ignored WSWS and Mehring Books's coverage about the party, as both of the organizations are controlled by International Committee of Fourth International. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:42, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails WP:NPOL. Prior its deregistration, the party never won any seat as it consistently scored less than one per cent vote in all elections and finally without members. Patre23 (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NPOL is not an exclusionary criteria, failure to satisy NPOL does not indicate a lack of notability. The SEP's forerunner was the Socialist Labour League, the Australian affiliate of Gerry Healy's SLL/WRP. The SLL played a not inconsiderable role during the rise of the far left in Australia politics in the 1960s and especially the 1970s. It is discussed across numerous texts examining far left politics in Australia of that period (and to some extent Britain as well); WP:NEXIST. Will post sources shortly. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 13:53, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Goldsztajn that would likely however justify an article on the SLL, but not on the SEP. If it's a "successor" to that as you say, then we'd typically consider it a different organisation (not least because Gerry Healy's organisations were a different one). Rambling Rambler (talk) 16:34, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there's a reason due to size or significant ideological break, ongoign parties are redirected from their original names. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Splitting from Healy’s organisation would be a significant ideological break in this case. There seems to have been a big bust up in the original Fourth International (colour me shocked) and the ICFI split away from Healy. Rambling Rambler (talk) 10:28, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving aside who split from whom, the SEP identifies with Healy and the SLL, no one else in Australia claims to be the successor party to the SLL. The ICFI is just one of the many Trotskyist internationals, but it is the one founded by Healy and the one the contemporary SEP parties worldwide claim as their international. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The various elements around the splits seem vague at present. I'm still however minded that the SLL (unless we've got evidence of electoral activity) should be treated as a separate organisation, and therefore doesn't carry notability over to SEP. This would be similar to consensus elsewhere, such as for Socialist Appeal (1992) and CWI which both treat successor groups as not inheriting notability. Rambling Rambler (talk) 18:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to International Committee for a Fourth International or Delete. No demonstration of notability, sources online look to be largely from the group itself (WP:ABOUTSELF). Rambling Rambler (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Sourcing on the SLL/SEP (Australia): two pages on origins and scope of the SLL,^[1] news report on Australian state government investigation into the SLL,^[2] party's newspaper from the 1990s held in the IISH's archive,^[3] multiple discussions of ASIO surveillance of the SLL and its contacts with Libya and Iraqi diplomats in Australia,^[4] discussion of the party from former member,^[5] discussion on the SLL and SEP from author with another party (SWP/DSP) of the Australian far left,^[6]

References

^ Alexander, Robert Jackson (1991). International Trotskyism, 1929-1985: A Documented Analysis of the Movement. Duke University Press. pp. 78–79. ISBN 978-0-8223-0975-8.
^ "Investigation of SLL charge". Australian Jewish Times. 25 May 1978.
^ "Workers news: weekly organ of the Central Committee of the Socialist Labour League, Australian section of the International Committee of the Fourth International". zoeken.iisg.amsterdam.
^ Blaxland, John; Crawley, Rhys (26 October 2016). The Secret Cold War: The Official History of ASIO, 1975-1989. Allen & Unwin. ISBN 978-1-952535-48-2.
^ Mitchell, Alex (February 2012). Come the Revolution: A Memoir. NewSouth Publishing. pp. 438–440. ISBN 978-1-74224-107-4.
^ Percy, John (2005). A History of the Democratic Socialist Party and Resistance. Resistance Books. pp. 204–207. ISBN 978-1-876646-53-0.

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Comment - I'm personally not convinced on these sources being relevant, it's a bit hard to justify notability of a party that was formed in 2010 based on sources that are all discussing a forerunner from 50 years ago. What it suggests in fact is a complete lack of notability for the Socialist Equality Party, given an absence of RS about this incarnation. They might by able to justify a short/stub article on the Socialist Labour League if someone wanted to create it, but that's as far as I'd go. Rambling Rambler (talk) 20:39, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It seems pretty clear that the Socialist Labour League is notable based on Goldsztajn's sources (here are a few additional newspaper sources: [24] [25] [26]), the question is just to what extent the Socialist Equality Party is a true successor. This source calls the SLL the "forerunner" of the SEP. This description of an item in a university library catalogue says The Socialist Labor League (SLL) is now known as the Socialist Equality Party, and still has a presence in Australia. This book refers to The Socialist Equality Party, formerly called the Socialist Labour League. Those obviously aren't particularly good or definitive sources, but in the absence of strong evidence otherwise and given that we don't have an article about the SLL, it's enough for me to think that it's reasonable to consider both names for the party to be within the scope of this article. A split or move could always be considered later. MCE89 (talk) 03:47, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The Trotskyite Socialist Equality Party, formerly called the Socialist Labour League..." (Political Handbook of the World, 1999 p.58), "In 1983, more than 60 agents were working inside target organisations, including the Socialist Labour League, the forerunner of the Socialist Equality Party." Mike Head, (2017) "ASIO's 'official history': More unanswered questions." Alternative Law Journal, 42(4), p.308 doi:10.1177/1037969X17732710. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question, how can a book from 1999 refer to the name of a group only called the "Socialist Equality Party" in 2010? Rambling Rambler (talk) 10:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Based on this catalogue entry referring to a document titled "From the Socialist Labour League to the Socialist Equality Party : perspectives resolution of the Socialist Labour League, adopted unanimously at its 17th National Congress, June 8-9 1996", I reckon the current article is wrong and they actually changed the party's name in 1996. This source says In June 1996, the SLL held its 17th National Congress to begin the process of transforming itself into the Socialist Equality Party. None of the current sources seem to support the claim that they changed the name in 2010. MCE89 (talk) 11:06, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WSWS is its own website though, which we should be avoiding as much as possible. This is in a nutshell why all these Trotskyist group pages on this site are so painful to untangle, because the only people that really seem to care about them are themselves and other groups, who will all run multiple websites and faux "publishers" in an effort to make themselves seem far grander and reputable than they are. Rambling Rambler (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh agreed, I'm not suggesting that it's a source that contributes towards notability — I'm just saying that it indicates that the 2010 date in the article is probably wrong and that the party actually changed its name in 1996. MCE89 (talk) 11:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this is why I think for now we could have this moved to Socialist Labour League and sourced up for that, but as the Socialist Equality Party we don't have anything to say why it should be considered notable since becoming a political party. Rambling Rambler (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Without getting bogged down in the minutae of Leninist party orginisational theory, the difference between 1996 and 2010 in this particular party's own terms is irrelevant. What's clear is that the common name for the party from 1996 onwards was the SEP. The fact they even report their own electoral results prior to 2010 *as the SEP* reinforces the point (2004 federal election, 2007 federal election). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 12:21, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That may be the case @Goldsztajn, but even if you move the start date from 2010 to 1998, we still run into the problem that the sources still predate and are instead concerned with the SLL.

We needs sources to establish the notability of the SEP on its own terms. Rambling Rambler (talk) 12:24, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a content discussion, not a notability discussion. Notability of the SLL/SEP has been established. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, that is a notability discussion too. And while I agree the SLL has been established to be notable, the SEP still fails notability in line with prior discussions we've taken part in where a move to becoming a political party was treated as a major enough change that it required a new article. Rambling Rambler (talk) 12:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which "prior discussions we've taken part in"? Do you mean this discussion? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two that come to mind in terms of discussions have been what to do with CWI[27] and Socialist Appeal[28] where successor groups didn't inherit notability. In practice this also seems to have been observed with how Socialist Party (England and Wales) is its own article despite a rebranding of what was Militant tendency (or at least those who hadn't split off).

So not carrying over notability and thereby having an article for SLL and then justifying the SEP on their own merits would be the norm from my experience of this subject. Rambling Rambler (talk) 13:30, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of generic names of political parties

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I am very confused by what this page is trying to do. By what logic are communists included, but liberal and green parties excluded? How is that more "generic"? PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:14, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I think that is just a poorly worded first sentence; liberal and green parties are included in the list. Curbon7 (talk) 09:27, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, even if they are, I don't see why this list is, or why it would be notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:31, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is an unnecessary list of political parties across national and continental frontiers. If this was a disambiguation, then it would have been fine. Almost every party on the list is a disambiguation and the parties are based in different countries. I do not see the usefulness of this list here. Patre23 (talk) 10:54, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep surprisingly, a proper navigational page under WP:NLIST, and it's been around since 2003. It is, essentially, a list of disambiguation pages, is surprisingly well visited for what it is, and serves a unique purpose, since the list of political parties is hugely cluttered. Furthermore, "I'm confused" isn't a proper deletion rationale. SportingFlyer T·C 18:45, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This does not pass WP:NLIST. It does not fill any recognized need (whether the purpose is "unique" is irrelevant, you can construct a plethora of unique lists out of OR constructs), a citationless list based on an arbitrary standards is not the way to solve another list's length problems. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:01, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a navigational list, citations are not required. This list supplements the category Category:Political party disambiguation pages (they may have diverged in purpose at some point) and the criteria is not actually arbitrary, even if the list could use a cleanup and maybe a rename. SportingFlyer T·C 22:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It says they may be if deemed necessary - this is not. If they have diverged in purpose then they no longer have any relation to each other. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I completely and entirely disagree with your argument that this is useless. Let's see what others say. SportingFlyer T·C 14:08, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Move and reorganize to List of political party disambiguation pages. That seems to be by and large what this page actually is, is more clear to the reader, and is a concrete criterion for a list. -insert valid name here- (talk) 23:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with this, but I wonder if there's a better possible title as this list is meant to include Communist Party (disambiguation) but not Communist Party of Nepal (disambiguation). SportingFlyer T·C 09:17, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is not a valid navigational list (which is the only rationale that people are giving to even try to justify keeping this) because it doesn't actually help anyone find anything. You can make at least a reasonable argument for a navigational aid from a list of political parties in a specific country, but not...whatever this is. Disambiguation pages are there for topics that share the same name; we don't collate these into a list of topics, because dab pages aren't about specific topics. The question raised immediately above about exactly which dab pages should be on this is quite telling. If we have to even ask this, alarms should be going off that something is wrong with trying to make a list out of this. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – works like a higher level of disambiguation page. Would be a shame to lose. It only has one incoming link and still gets some decent page views, so it is clearly helping someone. – Ike Lek (talk) 08:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per MOS:LISTPURP, which states Lists which contain internally linked terms (i.e., wikilinks) serve, in aggregate, as natural tables of contents and indexes of Wikipedia. This list also passes WP:NLIST. There's no reason to not collate disambiguation pages, especially if it serves the reader well. Since this page is visited pretty often, I would say this list is useful.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a straightforward navigational aid. To answer the nominator's question: this list is here for people who can't remember exactly what the party is called, or who are interested in browsing parties on a broad scale, and therefore need something more global than a single standard disambig for just "Centre party". The list is indeed a natural index. The initial sentence should be changed. Elemimele (talk) 16:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Trouble Lives On protest

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The article has only WP:ROUTINE coverage. Per the WP:ROUTINE section, "Planned coverage of scheduled events, especially when those involved in the event are also promoting it, is considered to be routine." The article only lists cities that the protest in planned to happen. Possible WP:PROMO violations. There is nothing here that cannot be summarized in an article on Protests against the second presidency of Donald Trump. UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This is just like that other one. Aneirinn (talk) 02:30, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify I !voted to leave the aforementioned other one be for procedural reasons as it was sent to AfD just hours before the protests started, so it was a clear case of WP:RAPID/WP:TOOSOONDEL to me. This one, on the other hand, is still a couple of weeks away, so it's simply WP:TOOSOON. I say incubate it so the author(s) can keep updating it and submit it for review at a later date when it's more possible to assess its notability. Vanilla Wizard 💙 02:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this completely. Historyday01 (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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There is nothing eith wrong with this page or the info on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:5D10:DB00:3539:C6C5:9865:4425 (talk) 00:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify per Vanilla Wizard. -insert valid name here- (talk) 23:22, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't think we should be purging Wikipedia of an article with 30+ sources about a major demonstration being held this week. If tens of thousands of people are expected to participate in hundreds of locations, then this is clearly about a notable topic. I also don't think draftifying for a few days is necessary, but sure if that's the route editors prefer. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:13, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the page up. I see no valid reason to delete the information about protests in the name of John Lewis! 70.22.242.87 (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)— 70.22.242.87 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep: per WP:RAPID and WP:NOTTOOSOON. ^EF⁵ 19:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This protest is just as important as the Hands Off and No Kings Day protests. Only problem is no numbers for turnout are reported yet. --74.215.89.126 (talk) 03:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)— 74.215.89.126 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep: This protest is pretty important and saw multiple cities in the US states, territories and even outside of the USA joining the protests. Last time i checked, mass protests that cross national borders are pretty important.VitoxxMass _(Talk) 13:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Westchester County Democratic Committee

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Not notable and not well sourced. There is also a nomination for Erie County Democratic Committee and this article is even worse. Its also an orphan since 2021 and thats not likely to change. Metallurgist (talk) 01:52, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I previously removed a list of Democrats who represent the county in the state legislature and Congress. These do not have to do with the county committee, even if they may seek their endorsement. Reywas92^Talk 04:16, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - needs to be expanded, but you can't argue that it doesn't pass notability. TheNewMinistry (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You said that on the NY county one as well, which may have a case, but what is the notability of this? The article has nothing on it and really no independent links to it. Metallurgist (talk) 23:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ - needs expansion. I believe it passes notability requirements as the organization has a physical headquarters and staffed office, leadership structure, members, and events. Eulersidentity (talk) 05:55, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How does that make it notable? Any number of things have those, but arent notable. Metallurgist (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't. My understanding of the guidelines was insufficient and have rescinded my vote now that I am thoroughly acquainted with them. Eulersidentity (talk) 23:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Free America Weekend

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(completely rewrote) This page has a source have were deprecated AND cannot be trusted by the wiki on UFO topics, it is also written like a advertisement, with wording like "*city name* has planned a protest, it feels sort of like a advertisement you would see online in a forum.Shaneapickle (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait per WP:RAPID. We shouldn't be nominating articles for deletion for a lack of notability when the protests haven't even happened yet. See also my own essay WP:TSTD. After a few days, if the coverage is not sustained enough, we should merge into protests against Donald Trump. Additionally, the criteria for ITN are different from the criteria for an article outright. -insert valid name here- (talk) 15:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The reverse is actually true- people should not be creating articles assuming they will become notable in future, they should wait until an event is notable and then and only then should they create an article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If we were discussing whether this article should be created, I would agree with you (and with Vanilla Wizard that incubating in draftspace would be more appropriate). However, we are discussing whether this article should be deleted. -insert valid name here- (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The correct thing is "it shouldn't have been created in the first place", therefore correct outcome is draftspace. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:RAPID and WP:NOTTOOSOON. — ^EF⁵ 18:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The page was made June 26th, 2025, this isnt a rapid or a not too soon violation. Shaneapickle (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Shaneapickle, and the protests are today. The date of creation matters less than the current time in relation to the event date, which is ongoing. — ^EF⁵ 18:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Protests against Donald Trump. Seems like just another protest, nothing special really. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now and support a procedural early close as the nom did not provide any reasons for deletion, with their argument instead being that there was no consensus on posting the No Kings protests to In the News, which the nom erroneously interpreted as "a consensus that protests against trump shouldn't be on wikipedia." I think the nom is a well-meaning but inexperienced user who did not know that the bar for something being on ITN is not the same as the bar for being on Wikipedia (if failing to be on ITN is grounds for deletion, the page about the no kings protests would have been deleted by now). Personally, I think this one probably should have been in draftspace until the event actually happened. The large number of references is an indicator that the event is plausibly going to be notable enough for a standalone page after it's actually occurred, but there's no point in moving it right now while the protests are just now starting. A merge discussion can happen after the event ends and some time passes, and I'd prefer if such a discussion took place on the article talk page as I'm not a fan of nominating pages for deletion when deletion is not a plausible outcome. Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:46, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I admit i didnt put any reasoning for deletion, but this page according to people on ITN has a source that was deprecated and could not be trusted (News Nation or whatever it was) I also agree this should have been draftified. Shaneapickle (talk) 22:28, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In an RFC, NewsNation was considered "generally unreliable" strictly in the topic area of UFOs/UAPs, and is otherwise considered generally reliable; it has not been deprecated. I encourage you to read other people's comments carefully. -insert valid name here- (talk) 22:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re "but this page according to people on ITN has a source that was deprecated and could not be trusted (News Nation or whatever it was)" - I believe that person's comment at ITN was talking about how the ITN nomination only mentioned one source in the ITN nomination template, and it was an outlet they hadn't heard of before, so they were not convinced that this news story is major enough to warrant posting to ITN (though I will say as a longtime ITN editor that the number of sources in the template / whether or not you heard of them is a bad rationale for opposing an ITN listing). That editor did also mention in their comment how strange and amusing it was that there's an asterisk in their WP:RS/P listing talking about their unreliable UFO-related content, but that's not really relevant to this discussion. The editor's comments at ITN were not talking about article content; they never said NewsNation was being cited in the article body (as of writing this, it's not in the sources list). But even if it were, as others have mentioned, that's okay: NewsNation is considered a generally reliable source with only one exception. But even then, even if it were a generally unreliable or deprecated source, and it were being cited in the article body, that's still not grounds for deleting the page, that'd just be grounds for removing the unreliable source through editing the page. Vanilla Wizard 💙 01:33, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now and revisit months later if it is having any lasting impact. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 05:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Protests in which thousands of people participate in hundreds of cities are notable. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Protests against Donald Trump without prejudice to recreation if notability is more clearly established in the coming weeks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:34, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Merge or~~ delete just another in a string of protests against the President. It won't have any lasting notability. It didn't accomplish anything. All of the sources are just that something occured in the cities. This can be summarized in one sentence.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 23:00, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This article is barebones and lacks significance. Aneirinn (talk) 20:23, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- Now there is a page for Good Trouble Lives On protest. At what point is this just going to be WP:ROUTINE? Having an article for every minor Trump protest is not helping Wikipedia's credibility against those who claim WP has a liberal bias. (And I am a Democrat).-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That one's definitely WP:TOOSOON to be an article and I agree with moving it out of mainspace. But I wouldn't worry too much about the latter half of that !vote; those who claim WP has this bias or that bias are likely not going to be swayed by the mere existence of a low-traffic page like that. If you were to speak to someone who felt Wikipedia is too biased to try to understand how they arrived at that conclusion, you probably wouldn't get a well-reasoned answer based on a careful analysis of which topics are being covered. Vanilla Wizard 💙 03:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I sure hope we've not reached a point in society where national or international protests with thousands of participants in hundreds of locations are considered routine. Also, I'm not sure what this has to do with liberal bias; we have articles for pro-Trump protests, too: March 4 Trump, Mother of All Rallies, Demonstrations in support of Donald Trump, etc. I'm not disputing that Wikipedia can have a liberal bias but in my opinion we should be creating articles for major demonstrations regardless of ideology, party, etc. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep if this article is merged or deleted, but I don't see how eliminating the documentation of major political protests is a benefit to Wikipedia and its readers. We have good examples of what articles like this one can look like, so I would prefer to work towards that here. --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt that conservatives protest too. However, these protests are forming at the rate of one every two weeks with different names. Whereas most types of protests are ongoing. These articles are just saying that people are protesting. I figure at this point that is WP:UNDUE for them to be given articles at this rate when all that is said is that there was a protest in this city and that city. I remember seeing KONY 2012 protests in my city, that wasn't included in that article, and it shouldn't it be. Note: I haven't even suggested anything against the plethora of other protests so far as those articles seem to have meat on their bones. If this article can have something more substantial than well a bunch of people held their signs in Scissortail Park on July ##, maybe I would be inclined to agree. Now for the argument that "hundreds of thousands of people participated." Hundreds of thousands of people went to the Thunder's championship parade. Do I think it should have it's own article? No.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:28, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, no cities as far as I could tell were listed. With that being said, it almost makes articles like these for upcoming protests seem like adverts.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per Another Believer. This already has shown some significant coverage, and is still under construction. Each section or article need not include every single viewpoint equally, as long as overall our content is consistent and neutral, as I've written in my user space. Bearian (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This was not anything compared to the No Kings protests. While it received coverage, it is thin when compared to the major protests and actions of the last six months. It would be far better for it to appear on a list of similar protests. Thriley (talk) 04:54, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to compare this demonstration to No Kings, which was one of the largest protests in US history. We only need to assess if there's enough coverage to justify an article. Multiple editors here have proposed a merge to Protests against Donald Trump, which suggests the content at least has merit, but the parent article is quite lengthy and only going to continue to grow. Deleting this entry essentially scrubs mention of the protest from Wikipedia, which doesn't seem right. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:34, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It can be summarized in that article as "On July 5, 2025 there were the Free America Weekend protests across the country." This is WP:NOTDIRECTORY at this point. The article says nothing about why they were protesting, what their goals were, and the results (if any).- UCO2009bluejay (talk) 15:02, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you've made your position quite clear, and I disagree that this content should be reduced to a single sentence in one article. I'm not sure how any of the six points at NOTDIRECTORY apply to an event that was held in hundreds of locations, if you could clarify. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:08, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Number 1 a simple list. UCO2009bluejay (talk) 15:27, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. This article is not analogous to a list of phone numbers. If there's not enough context, then we should be working to fix that. There's plenty of content to add about background, activities, organizers, locations, etc. There are Wikipedia articles for many similar protests and there's no reason why this one couldn't also be expanded similar to quality entries like Not My Presidents Day, Impeachment March, etc. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well this has been AfD for a while and it is still a list of people protesting in some areas. Frankly, none of the other articles this year have a list of every protest. I will conclude with why haven't you upgraded it as you say? This and the more recent protest based on timing reads like an advert.- UCO2009bluejay (talk) 16:30, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, whatever, I get YOUDONTLIKEIT, but I'm moving on to other things. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:33, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify It's been a week and I don't see this having any lasting impact based on what's currently in the article. I don't want to !vote delete just because it's still recent enough that it could change at any time, and would give people the chance to further develop it, but it should absolutely not be in mainspace as-is, because it's not clear this wasn't just a connected series of events in one news cycle. SportingFlyer T·C 20:40, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - a merger might make the article too long. FWIW, I took no part in this activity, because I've been caretaking for my partner. Bearian (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note Bearian has already !voted before the relist.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 20:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, a merge is unreasonable and the article has been significantly expanded and re-organized since nomination (80+ sources and prose grouped by region). I fully acknowledge much more improvement is needed; many of the sources need to be replaced and the paragraphs for almost every U.S. state need to be expanded. But, it seems pretty obvious to me that coverage allows for this expansion and this article can be made consistent with similar protest articles, including those about the ongoing string of major demonstrations hitting a roughly monthly cadence in the U.S. since Trump's election. I'll also note, many articles published this week about the Good Trouble protests also reference Free America Weekend in the context of the ongoing protests against the president, so it's inaccurate to say this is just a minor event in one news cycle. The presenting argument here and some other non-keep comments don't even address sourcing, so I hope that will be taken into consideration by the closing admin. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is I don't see any clear secondary sources amongst the 80+ sources currently in the article. This makes sense - it's not long after the event, so it's mostly primary news reports or primary sources showing organised events. SportingFlyer T·C 22:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Communicative assent

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Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Went to AFD in 2012, and has barely improved since then. A google search brings up other meanings, including legal. No attempt has been made to explain exactly what is means. Blackballnz (talk) 08:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm inclined to agree with the nominator, there are virtually no sources for this phenomenon, therefore is not notable enough to be kept. The articles under the "see also" for this article is a good frame of reference which this one does not meet. Kvinnen (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge sounds like liquid democracy, but its not really clear what it means, maybe occupy protest jargon. Metallurgist (talk) 23:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Campaign for Nationalism in Scotland

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I searched and https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n05/colin-kidd/new-unions-for-old might be a source but that is not enough to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 17:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The Campaign for Nationalism in Scotland was a short-lived faction within the SNP in the early 1980s with no lasting impact or independent coverage. --THE ONE PEOPLE (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 79 Group. There is certainly plenty independent coverage- I've added multiple references including coverage in a couple of front page stories in the national press at the time. There are also various historical appraisals that describe the Campaign as being a response to the 79 Group and that although the Campaign was only active over a short period led to the significant changes of the proscription of internal groups and to gradualism instead of fundamentalism in the SNP. Drchriswilliams (talk) 11:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non-notable campaign that is not significant enough for a standalone article. What is there should be easily covered within the 79 Group and SNP articles. Coldupnorth (talk) 15:14, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep article has been improved. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Scottish National Party the area around the bluetext that link to Campaign for Nationalism in Scotland can just be expanded. There is not a length concern for the overall article and even if there was this is probably not the right split — Preceding unsigned comment added by Czarking0 (talk • contribs) 23:57, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to SNP Metallurgist (talk) 23:52, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 79 Group per Drchriswilliams.--Staberinde (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Amay Bisaya

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See WP:ANI incident for context. Amay Bisaya might be notable but it's better to start from scratch than incorporate the LLM inputs in the article's history. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohammad Ruslan

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Former mayor of a city of 400,000, Indonesia's 32nd largest, does not qualify under WP:NPOL. Insufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. Obi2canibe (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The population of the city is irrelevent to WP:NPOL. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:22, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Experssing Islam ([9])}	No affiliation with the subject; academic analysis.	Published by a Singapore-based publisher ( Institute of Southeast Asian Studies). The chapter in question is by Robin Bush, who I assume is this person who I assume knows what she's talking about.	Discusses Ruslan's actions as mayor in the context of Islam in Indonesian politics.	✔ Yes
Unrest in Mataram Not Due to Ethnic or Religious Issues	Newspaper with no affiliation with the subject.	Despite the bad website design, the article is published in Kompas, a big national newspaper. I think it is probably reliable for local issues like this one.	Quotes the mayor and discusses the situation.	✔ Yes
Indonesian Investment and Trading Opportunity by Province, Regency, City. Vol. 4	If it's published by a national department, it should be independent from small-town mayors.	Apparantly published by the Indonesian Departement of Home Affairs	Eech. Based on the little sliver of a preview GBooks throws me we might have SIGCOV here, given it's a "profile". But based on the type of information in the article cited to this source (childhood, personal life) and the large amount of text cited to it (whole paragraph), I'm working on the asumption that it has SIGCOV. If someone wants to create an account with this sketchy website, they might get to find out.	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Keep based on this table. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in addition to the table above, I found another source ([29]), in which a whole chapter is dedicated to reviewing the first terms of four regional leaders including Ruslan. Not -exclusive-, but certainly SigCov. Juxlos (talk) 10:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shyam Kishor Awasthi Ji

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Non-notable Indian politician who clearly fails WP:GNG, and WP:NPOL. Taabii (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He may have received some local coverage as a party coordinator, but fails in WP:NPOL. Svartner (talk) 21:52, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
would such comments not be at risk of discrimination by his political peers? 31.205.145.5 (talk) 23:12, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He contested a single election and finished third, it is an objective criterion. "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability". Svartner (talk) 23:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maya Kornberg

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relatively unknown person Parkslope1 (talk) 15:04, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: I've moved this nomination discussion to the proper venue, see [30]. @Parkslope1: It would be helpful if you can elaborate on why this article should be deleted beyond "relatively unknown person" — particularly what has changed since Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maya Kornberg that should result in a different outcome. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:51, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Note. @GorillaWarfare:. I want to note that AfD ended in No Consensus which I think is a common outcome when candidate articles are nominated for deletion during elections. In every election, there is a subset of editors and SPAs that think articles on candidates should exist "because election." This can either be for promotional or attack purposes or just Wikipedia is important and they think this candidate is important. Once the election is over, the lack of notability that has always been the case becomes clearer.--Mpen320 (talk) 02:06, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed some unduly promotional and unduly negative edits in this article (and her opponent's) leading up to the recent primary. There's still room for improvement, but I think it's pretty reasonable now. In the time since the primary, a few unregistered and new users have popped in to make similar kinds of edits or argue for deletion when those edits -- which, in part, removed/misrepresented existing sources and cited instagram -- didn't stick. No success getting them to meaningfully engage on the talk page yet. A SPI is probably sensible, but that's a separate issue. Regardless, the argument of "relatively unknown person" is typically used to express that someone is a WP:LOWPROFILE individual, but that's not typically applicable to someone who runs for office. At the time of the previous AfD, notability was certainly borderline at best. Running an unsuccessful campaign does not itself confer notability, but the large amount of media it generates does help someone who came into that campaign with a borderline claim to notability. So at this point I think we're in clear Keep territory, and I'd encourage Parkslope1 to suggest specific changes based on specific citations on the talk page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:53, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Running an unsuccessful campaign one time is not enough to confer notability. The campaign did receive some media attention (almost all small local papers), as did other local campaigns, but the reality is that almost no other one time unsuccessful candidates for city council would ever be considered "notable" enough to have page. Kornberg's other work did not rise to the level of having a page and since the campaign ended she is not a public figure who merits a page. Pleasantpine (talk) 11:01, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Running an unsuccessful campaign one time is not enough to confer notability - this is a strange rebuttal to Running an unsuccessful campaign does not itself confer notability. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 12:50, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, given this, I take it you are the same person as Parkslope1 (who appears to be the same person as various unregistered users making the same or similar edits repeatedly prior to nominating for deletion). Please be advised editing from multiple accounts is not allowed on Wikipedia, as it gives the impression of multiple people being involved. I suspect this was just a mistake, not malicious (Wikipedia is a confusing place when you're starting out), but FYI for the future. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:01, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for the reasons I listed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maya Kornberg. I hope now that the election is over, policy prevails.--Mpen320 (talk) 02:00, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking again at the sources that existed last time around, it does look like notability was shaky at best. I don't edit a lot of candidate AfDs, but it seems backwards to me that a borderline case would be kept at the beginning of a campaign and then deleted afterwards, as a campaign does tend to yield some sources that contribute to WP:ANYBIO (i.e. there is no scenario where someone's claim to notability is weaker after a campaign). I won't be too sad if this is deleted given the pre-campaign coverage is thin, but I disagree with what seems like a popular opinion across Wikipedia: that coverage of someone while running for office doesn't count for anything. I get it in the sense of "running for office doesn't guarantee you a Wikipedia article," but if you do so and the big papers bite and run stories about you, it does help. Meh. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:10, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Harrison (politician)

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WP:POLOUTCOMES as an unelected candidate. Additionally, coverage does not show this individual meeting WP:GNG, with independent, potential significant sources being solely from The Advertiser (Adelaide) Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Ryan Harrison is a notable South Australian political figure who contested the seat of Unley in the 2022 state election as the endorsed Labor candidate. He achieved 32.1% of the primary vote and brought the margin to just 2.2%, resulting in the largest primary vote swing to Labor in the seat’s history (an 8.8% increase), according to data from the Electoral Commission of South Australia.

In 2025, following a refusal by the Labor Party to re-endorse him—despite his campaign success—Harrison founded and officially registered a new political party, *For Unley*. This party was gazetted by the South Australian Electoral Commissioner and formally published in the Government Gazette (No. 42, 4 July 2025): https://www.governmentgazette.sa.gov.au/2025/July/2025_042.pdf

Harrison is actively campaigning for the 2026 state election, and his continued political activity, creation of a registered political party, and historic primary vote swing meet the standards of WP:POLITICIAN and WP:GNG. I intend to continue improving the article with independent, verifiable sources and maintain an encyclopedic tone. Aussiecontributor (talk) 23:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aussiecontributor your comment was simply moved to the bottom, not removed. I undid your duplicate comment that was added at the top of the page Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 00:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Because the subject doesn't hold a notable office (WP:POLITICIAN), the main thing at issue is his coverage in independent secondary sources. Just as a sidenote, the article cites Facebook as its third source, which is not a reliable source per our list of perennial sources. So we're left with the two articles in The Advertiser, which are just about the only sources that might be considered SIGCOV since the podcast is primary. But based off those two articles and what else I could find, the basic gist is: the subject well-known locally but not well-known enough (demonstrated by the lack of coverage) to pass the threshold of significant coverage here. GuardianH 09:46, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with GuardianH, the subject does not have significant press coverage to be considered notable. Also, the South Australian Government Gazette is a primary source and does not contribute to notability. ~ Nikoledood (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Running for office by itself doesn't meet our notability guidelines. TarnishedPath^talk 07:59, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NPOL as an unsuccessful candidate. LibStar (talk) 23:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete aside from electoral filings and his own website, the only sources I can find are two articles from The Advertiser on his defection from Labor. Seems like a case of WP:1E. Juxlos (talk) 12:43, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oseleye Ojuka

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL. Regional party official and had an unsuccessful primary campaign for a governorship. The first source cited is a passing mention, the second is about his primary bid, it's not nothing but there's nothing else that I can find that rises to WP:SIGCOV, just occasional brief quotes in news articles. Here2rewrite (talk) 20:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: He's Christian, runs a business and didn't qualify for an election... That's about the extent of this article. Very much non-notable. Even the coverage in the article is rather limited. Oaktree b (talk) 20:24, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP: TNT. The writing is atrocious. Much of it is nonsense. Bearian (talk) 19:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Yaseen

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:BIO. A WP:BEFORE shows limited coverage, and there isn't any evidence that subject warrants a standalone article. Also fails WP:SIGCOV. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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hello, this article is based on a deputy minister currently sworn in to his position the presidential office links and ministries official website links of where his appointments are is a testimony and proof to his position maldives is a small country and we rely mostly on government resources to conclude the authencity and verify the claims sir. please have a thorough view. I understand there is not much sources or cites to highlight, could you please tell me how can I proceed ? NormadicEditor (talk) 09:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
he is in the current cabinet of president muizzu´s with evidence to the publication of presidents office links verifying his stance. which is the official website of the goverment, fisheries is the biggest sector of our country and his appearance on wikipedia is required for maldivians as this determines information they want about their cabinet. especially someone holding a position in fisheries ministry. NormadicEditor (talk) 09:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep under WP:NPOL as a government minister in the Maldives. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All the references of the article are just from the Fisheries Ministry and his LinkedIn. LinkedIn isn't a reliable source since it's self-published. Unilandofma^Talk 18:17, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the LinkedIn link Should be removed. If we omit links from the Fisheries Ministry (a government website) and the President’s Office as well, does this mean the current government is not considered authentic? if taking that to consideration and not his position these Maldivian articles shouldn't exist on wikipedia:Mohamed Maleeh Jamal Hassan Latheef

Be more considerate and approach with a solution based mentality, isn't that a mark of education and diversity, even though we are hiding behind our pens? :))

https://presidency.gov.mv/Government/Officials/141 Let me know if Maldivian government isn't verifiable!

He is the deputy minister of fisheries and Ocean resources, which other government website should the link be derived from ? please enlighten me about validity of Maldivian government I am always here to listen and get educated on :) NormadicEditor (talk) 22:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've never said that the current Maldivian government isn't authentic. Even if you omit links from the Fisheries Ministry, majority of the information starting from Early life and education to Personal life doesn't cite a source. The other two sources (which are from the Fisheries Ministry and The President's Office) only shows that he's a Deputy Minister and the date he was appointed on. Unilandofma^Talk 17:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes we have both agreed upon this. but the article still can be edited and kept Under WP:NPOL (Wikipedia's notability guideline for politicians), Thats what I have mentioned there :) NormadicEditor (talk) 19:26, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep under WP:V Verifiability, all content on Wikipedia must be backed by reliable sources. A President's Office link (e.g., presidency.gov.mv) is considered a reliable primary source for factual claims like “Person A was appointed as Deputy Minister,” “sworn in on [date],” or “assigned to Ministry X.” NormadicEditor (talk) 22:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Under WP:NPOL (Wikipedia's notability guideline for politicians), a politician is presumed notable if they: Hold, or have held, a major national political office (e.g., minister, deputy minister, member of parliament), NormadicEditor (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC) — Duplicate !vote: NormadicEditor (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.[reply]

James Osyf

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Non-notable individual running for public office. Fails notability metrics in WP:BIO and WP:NPOL. Recreate should he be elected next year. ThisUserIsTaken (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There is coverage [31], but he's a navy sailor running for office, I don't see anything to meet notability. Very routine career. The article now is barely more than a few sentences. Oaktree b (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Mztourist (talk) 02:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Or possibly redirect to an election page. He has zero military notability. Intothat darkness 13:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2026 United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia#District 2 as the expected ATD for a random candidate. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the election page, as per BottleOfChocolateMilk, and a common outcome as an ATD. Bearian (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or maybe just delete. Does not meet WP:NPOLITICS or WP:GNG for that matter. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 20:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Draft: Although yes not a lot of notability, it could be developed over time into a real article, so how about we move the page to draft and then put a Redirect. Fad8229 (talk) 19:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Georgina Downer

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Last AfD was no consensus Fails WP:NPOL, has only been a political candidate. Also WP:NOTINHERITED, a lot of coverage refers to her as the daughter of Alexander Downer. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Downer family. Notability is not inherited and as a failed candidate for political office, they would not meet NPOL. I'm not seeing enough here to say that their journalism or diplomatic careers meet notability standards.

Bkissin (talk) 13:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a perennial candidate such as Sharron Angle. In the alternative, merge selectively and redirect to her family's article. Bearian (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a candidate he is notable Monhiroe (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unsuccessful candidates don't meet NPOL. Obviously you haven't read this article as the article subject is female. LibStar (talk) 00:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect - had to think about this one, but she is not a perennial candidate - she ran twice and attracted some media because of her family ties, and we say nothing about her that isn't the fact she lost two elections in two years. There is nothing here that can't be covered in the pages on the election or on her family's article. SportingFlyer T·C 22:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dragan Đorđević

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Article about a person who ran for the Serbian Presidential Election in 2004 and got 0.19% of the votes. Created in 2004, but still a stub to this day, because there is nothing else to find about this person. No sources are provided for the few information the article gives, and I could also not find anything about him online. Almost all wikilinks linking to the page are misdirections, assuming the link target is a futsal player of the same name. Not even the political party he ran for has a Wikipedia article, and it seems to be non-notable, given that it is not even mentioned in List of political parties in Serbia. To summarize, subject does not meet WP:GNG. CaptainOlimar42 (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The nomination sums it up well. --Mpen320 (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2004 Serbian presidential election, per above. Bkissin (talk) 14:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2004 Serbian presidential election, not notable.--Staberinde (talk) 19:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nirmal Mahato

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Non-notable politician, fails Wp:NPOL. No wp:SIGCOV is found except few news articles revolving around his murder case. His murder case could pass the notability as an event but not this biography. Zuck28 (talk) 17:09, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Li Qi (politician, born 1969)

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Nor do they meet WP:POL. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unless Chinese language sources are found. Current coverage does not show sigcov Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the sources cited in the article are Chinese language sources. - Amigao (talk) 17:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I meant to say further sources. Two of these sources are decent and focus on what appears to be the same event. The others are not significant Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep meets NPOL by virtue of being a member of the 13th National People's Congress[32] This source and the political office are already in the zh.wikipedia article[33].~~ Oblivy (talk) 05:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could be incorrect, but I do not think this person is the same person as the one in the article you linked for zh wikipedia. They don't have the same name in latin or chinese characters. Li Qi is referred to as "he" while the 李静 article says she is female. They are listed with different birth months and represent separate provinces. This is not to say Li Qi is not notable, but that they aren't the same as the person you linked. Ike Lek (talk) 03:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agree with Oblivy. He is holding a political position and based on the available references on zh.wikipedia. Gepeas (talk) 16:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - it could be the translation program, but there is no politician named Li Qi in the source provided by Oblivy. There's a "Li Qiang", a "Li Qiuxi", and a "Li Qilin". Using "李琦", the Chinese version in the current article, and an un-translated version of the article, yields zero results.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:34, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I totally agree with Onel5969, sources cited in the article do not yield a result about any Li Qi. Cameremote (talk) @gonisulaimann 22:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, then why did you !vote keep? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:31, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I've added two more sources to the article. I think it barely meets GNG based on the sources now in the article. On the concerns about mistaken identity above, I agree that this article about the NPC does not seem to mention Li Qi; I can't find any evidence that he was in the NPC. The Chinese Wikipedia article linked above seems to be about a different person, Li Jing (李静) rather than Li Qi (李琦). —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:35, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment agreed that is an article about a different person, from another province. Apologies and I've struck my above comment and vote. The guy was county party chairman and provincial trade union boss. Is that enough for NPOL? With respect, the sources added by @Mx. Granger are fantastic for verifiability but I don't see anyone talking independently about him. Oblivy (talk) 15:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those positions would not meet NPOL, so GNG still needs to be shown Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep meets GNG. I reviewed the article sources. @The Account 2: Thoughts?

Czarking0 (talk) 17:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In cases like this, I feel it's good to run a though experiment: if he was an American politician holding a roughly similar position, would he have been notable? There seems to be just enough sources covering him. The Account 2 (talk) 17:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn Evans

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Non-notable person who, while elected to the state legislature, left the state before taking office, fails GNG. Talthiel (talk) 00:04, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: WP:NPOL says that notability "applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them". So, even though she never took office, I believe the article has sufficient notability.

Notaoffensivename (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is she will never assume office, she left the state before she could. They even held a special election recently because her leaving caused the seat to be vacant upon the opening of the 2025 New Hampshire legislative session. Talthiel (talk) 15:07, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. If she never held office and never will due to the aforementioned special election, I fail to see how she is notable enough to require an article. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 18:47, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 New Hampshire House of Representatives election. Yue🌙 22:41, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I created this page per WP:NPOL which says that notability "applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them". Moondragon21 (talk) 15:29, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The key word is "yet". Evans will never assume office as she left the district to live elsewheree, and bar being elected in that new area, she is otherwise not notable. Talthiel (talk) 15:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Does meet WP:NPOL, when it states: "This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them", which this sentence specifies winning an election to a notable seat, but haven't been seated which this can clarify Evans being notable. There is the list List of members-elect of the United States House of Representatives who never took their seats, and all of them have blue links, and the list includes people who have not held offices before and were just member-elects to their first public office that they won the election for. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 20:40, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: WP:NPOL question aside, are additional sources likely to exist for WP:NOPAGE purposes? If all the article can ever say is "X is a politician who was elected in Y year, but refused their seat", then a redirect to the election article with a note they refused to be seated is sufficient. My experience with writing articles for NH state representatives, of which I have done several, is that non-incumbent/non-controversial candidacies themselves typically do not receive much coverage due to the nature of the state house. Curbon7 (talk) 23:32, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is what I was thinking too. Certainly passes WP:NPOL, but we should consider a redirect per NOPAGE. I had a challenge even finding significant coverage that explained the subject's refusal to be seated and minimal coverage about the election itself. As examples, the article (as it existed on July 6), has a mention that the subject is a small business owner, but nothing more and there are certain attestations attributed to the local Democrats page, which I wasn't able to find a better source. - Enos733 (talk) 02:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Based on my above comment. Curbon7 (talk) 20:53, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2024 New Hampshire House of Representatives election. Article will be a permastub and NOPAGE better applies in this case. मल्ल (talk) 16:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 New Hampshire House of Representatives election as an alternative to deletion. As far as the part of WP:NPOL stating "applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them", I believe that is meant to clarity it is not a violation of WP:CRYSTAL to create an article for a state legislator-elect and thus we can avoid numerous AfDs for people who will (in 99.9% of cases) take office within a few weeks. I do not believe it means that every state legislator-elect is inherently notable even when there is a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I consider this a BLP1E situation (if that) and so I think a redirect is the best approach. Such an approach is also in line with WP:NOPAGE. --Mpen320 (talk) 15:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - that's current policy. When the consensus changes it should be obvious. Bearian (talk) 20:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2024 New Hampshire House of Representatives election per my comments earlier. --Enos733 (talk) 19:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Kranjac

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Former gubernatorial candidate who got 2% in the Republican primary and former mayor of a town with a population of ~5,000. Obviously not enough for a WP page, and I don't see any reason to think he passes GNG either. Most sources cited on the page are ROTM coverage and passing mentions in articles about the gubernatorial race. I'd support a redirect to 2025 New Jersey gubernatorial election. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 21:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I see an abundance of sources that contribute to WP:GNG. Local-level politicians can lose an election, thereby not being inherently notable under WP:NPOL, but still be very much notable under WP:NBASIC. From what I can see, the subject of this article has received plenty of substantial coverage in a wide variety of publications. The article is actually pretty decently well written, too. MediaKyle (talk) 21:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep he had coverage before he ran due to his time as mayor. Scuba 01:17, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:GNG. Knox490 (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NPOL and WP:GNG and WP:MILL. He very clearly fails our tests for political officials, as the mayor of a small, albeit very nice, suburb of New York City, which I've been to. We routinely delete articles of statewide candidates, of both parties. As any person, he hasn't really done anything. There are tens of thousands of local officials in New Jersey alone, and he has yet to do anything significant to warrant coverage nationwide. 100% of his news coverage has been local media and blogs. As a Republican in 2025, he's literally run of the mill: 99% of current Republican officials support Trump and his OBBB, and the MAGA movement according to recent polls has 85% to 90% of rank and file Republican support. If he was campaigning for a balanced budget amendment, or was vocally against Trump, then he'd be notable. To paraphrase the old adage, man bites dog is news, but GOP local official supporting MAGA isn't news. I would not oppose a redirect as per nom. Bearian (talk) 23:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - has a huge wealth of coverage, meeting WP:GNG. Ike Lek (talk) 01:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Bearian's reasoning in part. Local politicians will always receive local coverage and therefore the coverage bar is higher to pass WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:52, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm in accord with your reasoning. It's like a Venn diagram. Bearian (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2025 New Jersey gubernatorial election as a valid ATD. --Enos733 (talk) 03:14, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2025 New Jersey gubernatorial election. Wikipedia is not the news. A majority of citations are election coverage of which the election is the subject and the candidate is secondary so I don't see significant coverage. He got 2% of the vote, so passing any sort of test of historical significance is very unlikely. While local elected officials are neither inherently notable or inherently not notable, only four sources relate to his local political career. It is not encyclopedic to give a subject an individual Wikipedia article because they renamed City Hall or sued the state in which they are in once. Some in this AfD note the wide amount of coverage. The New Jersey Globe, which has press corps credentials, is fifteen of 40 sources. There are diverse sourcing issues when 37% of the total sources are from one publication. This is before reviewing that some sources are not independent and others are questionable. For example, Shore News Network is almost certainly not reliable. It lacks bylines and appears to use a virtual mailing address. It also has a "submit news" feature that I am confident based on the lack of bylines and no press-association membership, is just used to launder press releases. The remainder of the article is the use of a Institute of World Politics press release to build a biography of every life event. Also, one of the forty citations is an explanation of who cohosted something with the College Republicans. Totally unrelated to the subject.--Mpen320 (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the 2025 NJ page. Focusing only on sources not related to the campaign, does not show enough for notability. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:10, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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[2] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20240119171334/https://www.businessinsider.com/sec-binance-coinbase-crypto-digital-currency-2023-6

[3] ttps://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/politics/donald-trump-bitcoin-cryptocurrency

[4] ttps://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2023/06/12/the-secs-war-on-crypto-00101624

[5] ttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-03-04/china-s-inner-mongolia-declares-war-on-crypto-mining-video

[6] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20250206220447/https://www.inc.com/sam-blum/the-war-on-crypto-helped-get-trump-elected-according-to-ripples-brad-garlinghouse/91062612

[7] ttps://time.com/6981035/donald-trump-crypto-election-2024/

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[9] ttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/fairshake-super-pac-brad-garlinghouse-sec-gensler-60-minutes

[10] ttps://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/business/money-report/cryptos-long-battle-with-sec-comes-to-a-close-with-ripple-victory/4141098

[11] ttps://www.wired.com/story/roman-storm-tornado-cash-crypto-trial

[12] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20240716171926/https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/07/31/desantis-slams-bidens-war-on-bitcoin-that-hasnt-actually-been-declared

[13] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20240716171926/https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/07/31/desantis-slams-bidens-war-on-bitcoin-that-hasnt-actually-been-declared

[14] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20241226221701/https://thehill.com/business/5054066-crypto-industry-2024-election-legislation

[15] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20250716013018/https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-election-10-31-24/card/trump-vows-to-end-kamala-s-war-on-crypto--S52r64qKzlUHWKAOGwlq

[16] ttps://news.bloomberglaw.com/securities-law/waging-war-on-cryptocurrency-would-be-a-mistake-for-democrats

[17] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20250603231627/https://www.vox.com/money/371597/crypto-politics-spending-2024-elections-trump

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