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TruVista Communications

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No reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ProtobowlAddict ^talk! 02:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - There are sources showing it exists, but nothing that comes close to WP:ORGCRIT. I found it strange that a company claiming to be more than 100 years old has no online presence. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Chester Telephone Company was started in 1897 as privately-owned independent telephone company to serve the small rural town of Chester, South Carolina. In the 1980s, it was one of the investors in a successful regional fiber network, PalmettoNet,^[1] that sold broadband capacity and dark fiber to large long distance telecoms and big corporate users. It also began acquiring small cable TV systems and now says it serves about 60,000 customers.^[2] Over the years, Chester Telephone, then TruVista got industry coverage for deploying new (at the time) technologies.^[3] TruVista was purchased by a big private equity firm, iCON Infrastructure, in 2019 and operates autonomously. ^[4] I personally think we should have an article about this company since it's part of the history of rural telecommunications. I know it would meet WP:GNG. However, companies have to meet Wikipedia's much more restrictive WP:NCORP guideline which effectively disqualifies most otherwise reliable press coverage (including major events such as "the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business") from notability consideration. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you have the sources that meet WP:ORGCRIT (regardless of what name it was at the time), then it would meet NCORP. Makes sense that it had numerous name changes since there really isn't anything out there under the current name. I would be happy to change my vote if you can provide the links. I do not have access to ProQuest unfortunately though. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@CNMall41, you should be able to access all three ProQuest links via The Wikipedia Library. Anyhow, the first one is a passing mention if I've ever seen one. The second link is the company's About Us page, which is interesting but not reliable or independent sigcov. The third is a piece in a trade publication; I'm not certain if it is fully independent or counts as sigcov, but I'll say it's good enough. The fourth is a short, routine report of this company being purchased by another one. So, being very generous, we have one, maybe 1.5 sources that count towards NCORP. Toadspike [Talk] 21:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Searching Newspapers.com, it seems that, as one might expect, they have lots of local news coverage: [5][6][7][8] There's plenty more; this search [9] has over 1,500 results, some of which are ads, press releases, and legal notices, but some of which are real coverage. @Protobowladdict and @CNMall41, do you have thoughts on these sources? Toadspike [Talk] 21:27, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. Is there a source that ties the name change? I'd even be willing to do the WP:HEY if there is. The other questions is whether this should be a past tense since TruVista now operates independently according to the sourcing from A.B. I do not think TruVista would be independently notable since it is no longer the same company. But, correct me if I am wrong. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:33, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Holafly

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This appears to be a basic summary of a non-notable commercial operation - no assertion of notability is made, and the service it provides is routine / non-innovative. A mention in a list of eSIM operators would seem sufficient. SeoR (talk) 00:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep passes WP:PRODUCT. An in-depth review in TechRadar - [10] - in-depth coverage in Levante-EMV - [11] - and La Vanguardia - [12] - is enough to pass WP:GNG threshold as well. 82.117.28.137 (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Except the article is about the company so WP:PRODUCT doesn't apply. That said - if the article was changed to focus on the eSim service, those reviews would count towards establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 21:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I can only find product reviews for the eSIMs. Sure it technically qualifies under WP:PRODUCT, but I could not find a single source that describes anything about the company or history of the product, so there isn't really any way to make an sourced article that is not an WP:PROMO. Jumpytoo Talk 08:14, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Internet challenges#Crime. The policy-based consensus is that the topic is not currently notable for a stand alone article. Preserving a redirect will allow for easy recreation if the event does prove to have lasting coverage. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:27, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chromebook challenge

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WP:NOTNEWS Laun chba ller 09:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. If this topic still has coverage in news or scholarly media a year from now (ha!) we can re-create the article. We don't need to index every passing fad (note how every single source is from the past week). WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After the dust settles down, this will be remembered similar to the blackout, tide pod, and devious lick challenges and be mentioned time-to-time when talking about challenges. Would say leave it for now, then after the dust settles then we see. 2603:8001:8400:DC34:76E5:4D55:D814:774F (talk) 02:32, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Anon here. This meme will still be remembered, even after its peak relevancy. It's an example of the crazy things people do for clout, and is far more dangerous and noteworthy than some other internet challenges. The reasons that the 2025 Pakistan-India missle strike has an article, applies here (unless the conflict escalates). Thegoofhere (talk) 19:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Military conflicts tend to be constantly written about for a long time after they end, unlike most fads. KnowDeath (talk) 06:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I just want to cite WP:FAME real quick.

But notability is not temporary. What this means is that once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage, but brief coverage that ceases quickly may not render a subject notable.

Now, this depends on what you define as "brief coverage", but I personally think of it as 3-7 days. I could find coverage of this trend from 3 weeks ago, which is way more than most memes last until they die nowadays. Articles on the subject are still being made, and 2 people have arrested because of it, so it's more unlikely to die out by this time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's an article that abides by Wikipedia rules. Thegoofhere (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, the challenge has caused a major safety scare across the country, [13] with 3 people confirmed to be hospitalized due to concerns of smoke inhalation. [14]. You can go to the responses section and see all of the recorded incidents we have. Thegoofhere (talk) 03:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Users cite WP:NEVENT even though it literally only strengthens the case for this article's existence. ^{Ironic how people cite the policy here but never say the Chromebook Challenge isn't historically significant.} Y'all are literally treating this trend like its just a fad ~~and totally didn't cause evacuations, lectures, panics, hospitalizations, and articles from notable news sources~~. Thegoofhere (talk) 03:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Also, I want everyone, including any closing mods, to remember WP:ATD exists. Deletion or keeping the article is not the only option, as later replies have shown. Also, Brexit

Thegoofhere (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lanch, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to give a reason in your nomination. Ameright?

Also, comitting arson for Tiktok views would still probably be a talking point (but more minor) in 7 months. Thegoofhere (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And it still is, as of now. Thegoofhere (talk) 22:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No evidence this flash in the pan social media fad passes WP:NEVENT; we would need to see WP:SUSTAINED coverage. And WP:NOTNEWS, while not effusive, is a valid deletion rationale since WP:NOT is the second part of the two-part WP:GNG test. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree buddy: There is evidence that it passes WP:NEVENT. I quote it for ya.

"Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact"

It has national impact, many American schools have put out messages stating that students must stop doing the trend. Sources from the article show that incidents of the trend have recorded in 15 US states. Plus, a student was charged for arson whilst participating in the challenge. [15][16] You hear that? A charge of ARSON.

It's a trend that promoted crime, has garnered attention from firefighters and schools, covered in various news sources, is popular even after a week, destroyed property, and led to an arrest.

Yeeessss, very unotable.ಠ_ಠ Thegoofhere (talk) 00:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

just keep it on bro 166.109.26.101 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

istg there are undocumented terrorists out there and your worried about some stupid article of a true challenge 166.109.26.101 (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And the sky is blue. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Oaktree b (talk) 14:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whataboutism 165.140.214.242 (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Still nothing to do with the discussion, there is no point keeping this article on a very likely short-lived fad. Oaktree b (talk) 15:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anon wasn't talking to you, nor disagreeing with you. Thegoofhere (talk) 19:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, let's keep the discussion on track. Oaktree b (talk) 12:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I guess we could draft this, but who knows where it will be in six months. This will likely be forgotten... TOOSOON, the articles are less than two weeks old at this point. Oaktree b (talk) 14:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It’s impossible to predict whether this will have lasting effects. Predicting the future is simply impossible and CRYSTAL. We should reconsider deletion 4 months from now. 73.75.170.176 (talk) 00:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TOOSOON as this is most likely to die down within months. This can be merged into Chromebook article. Patre23 (talk) 14:28, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with either List of Internet Phenomena or Chromebook. SchoolChromebookUser (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is way too trivial to be mentioned at Chromebook anywhere other than its See also section, but I could get on board with redirecting this to List of Internet challenges (which is where List of Internet phenomena#Challenges takes you).--Laun chba ller 15:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Went through the List of Internet challenges article, it is mentioned in the crime section and was added back in the 8th of May. A merge could suffice since it is already mentioned. SchoolChromebookUser (talk) 11:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~I don't think a merge is needed. What criteria does the article not follow, does it need to be reduced to a minor mention?~~ Thegoofhere (talk) 04:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I take it back. If the result is "delete" then we should put it on List of Internet challenges. But the article has a lot of information that could be lost if it was put there. Thegoofhere (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Run of the mill internet trend. It’s too early to tell whether this will have any lasting impact. Golem08 (talk) 17:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not opposed to redirecting to the entry at List of Internet challenges. Golem08 (talk) 17:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if there's still new coverage after a short period of time. If not. Turn it into a Draft.Thegoofhere (talk) 02:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep its going to at least get metioned time to time so as the other TikTok trends like devious lick, Tide Pods. and if this don't get coverage in a

couple months then it can be deleted and i doubt it will "die down" after getting covered by the biggest reliable source of wikipedia,The New York Times and based on the page views and Google Search Trend which shows over 100 searches and the related searches are "TikTok Challenge" and for the page views and its getting 28 views per a day because its getting AfD'ed, one of the biggest TikTok challenges blowing up right now and people are confused and don't know what it is because its getting AfD'ed. Momentoftrue (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Also, its still getting coverage. Most memes die within like, 2 days. To even pass 1 week proves its a noteworthy subject, even if it's not as popular after a couple of days. Thegoofhere (talk) 01:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Plus, it's been long enough for most independent articles about the challenge to be secondary Thegoofhere (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm so sorry, but "trends" like these come and go so quickly; there's a 99% chance this is going to be forgotten by the next month. If it isn't, I stand corrected. However, it is far too soon for a page and shows no signs of continuing notability. If anything, it could be mentioned on Chromebook if this "challenge" lasts longer. jolielover♥talk 07:53, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover. It's probably best to refrain from making speculative comments. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 03:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:DOGBITESMAN-type coverage. Not helped by the WP:BLUDGEONING of the article creator here. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
People setting their Chromebooks on fire is a routine event that happens all the time? If you're gonna cite a wikipedia policy page, cite one that's relevant. Thegoofhere (talk) 21:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – If this article is deleted, do editors feel this is noteworthy for discussion on the main Chromebook article? In other words, should the contents of this page be merged instead? An IP asked about this a few days ago, before this article was created, and I had similar concerns about long-term notability. However, I just looked this topic up and saw that it has indeed indeed seen coverage by NYT, ABC News, and the like. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is still getting reported in the last few days. See https://news.yahoo.com/chromebook-challenge-trend-students-destroying-180608970.html, https://turnto10.com/news/crisis-in-the-classroom/fire-marshal-says-students-may-be-criminally-charged-for-dangerous-chromebook-challenge-catastrophic-arson-tiktok-social-media-may-21-2025, and https://mashable.com/article/tiktok-chromebook-challenge-what-is 73.75.170.176 (talk) 13:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I find out about this phenomenon from local coverage of one incident. I came here to get more and found useful context and technical details. Remembering this phenomenon long term seems important as a cautionary tale. -- Beland (talk) 07:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - into the similar Devious lick trend. which both of these trends are very similar. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 19:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect per WP:NEVENT/WP:NOTNEWS. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 01:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. Social media fad with no evidence of lasting impact. MidnightMayhem 12:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How about merging to List of Internet challenges? 73.75.170.176 (talk) 17:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article is useful for institutions and electronics manufacturers to warn that insertion of foreign objects into the USB port can be dangerous. After TikTok, some people have posted on YouTube Shorts, which YouTube had to respond with takedowns. Remembering the event can help tech platforms to take down new dangerous challenges. Ahri Boy (talk) 11:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTNEWS. Agnieszka653 (talk) 16:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Byel

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Was tagged as a G5 but I was unable to convince myself that G5 applies. I'll let the prior declined speedies and PRODs in the history speak for themselves:

WP:PROMOTION created by a cross-wiki spam. Their draft was declined, and yet they created the article. They also created this article in several other (mostly small) WPs.

YouTube content creator with limited visibility! A paid promotion linked to an entry on Wikipedia in another language, also created by the same user, raises doubts about the nature of this content, possibly suggesting it's an advertisement. I believe that the page dedicated to a Brazilian actor and YouTuber does not meet notability standards due to a lack of appropriate sources. Of the 7 cited sources, IMDb is generally considered unreliable, and the mentioned films on the page are not widely recognized, making the article questionable in terms of relevance..

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Its related to pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos_a_verificadores/Caso/Isaías_José_Silva_Oliveira_Neto and/or pt:Wikipédia:Pedidos a verificadores/Caso/Brasilesports. Cross wiki spam. Augustresende (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Already deleted as Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Biel_TVZ and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Biel_TVZ_(2nd_nomination). Augustresende (talk) 13:17, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - cross-wiki spam. Subject appears notable looking at the Brazilian press links but in one of the few cases where I advocate “Ignore all rules”, we should delete this and block the user if not already blocked. Also, the specific IMDb and YouTube links should be blacklisted, preferably on Meta since this is a cross-wiki problem. There’s a potential for collateral damage from getting the Regex wrong so the blacklisting should be done by a blacklist-savvy admin. I’ll note that spamming small wikis is a particular problem since they have limited defenses. (I’m a former Meta admin with previous spam cleanup experience - that’s why I have an edit history on 180+ WMF projects). The article should be salted, too. —A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and support everything else A. B. said, the cross wiki spam of it all is troubling. Moritoriko (talk) 00:27, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:Basic. COI issues and promotion signify not notable imo. Agree with comments on wiki spam. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Anime with Alvin episodes

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Two episode lists for YouTube cooking shows, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NWEB. We don't even have articles about the series, just one about the overall YouTube channel that they're distributed on -- and each of these is referenced to a single news article each to verify that the shows exist, while otherwise referencing the actual content of the lists (i.e. the episode titles, airdates and YouTube view counts) to their own primary source presences on YouTube or the host's own self-published website rather than reliable third-party sourcing.
So if the shows could be properly verified as having enough reliable source coverage to earn their own standalone articles as separate topics from the overall channel, then we could include the episode lists in the show articles -- but we don't need standalone episode lists if the shows don't even have articles at all, and we'd need to see a lot more than just one reliable source each to justify articles about the shows. Bearcat (talk) 20:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete both. Neither show is inherently notable given the lack of reliable independent sources for the shows themselves. There is little chance of individual episodes, or even the entire group of episodes, could also be notable. Ajf773 (talk) 10:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Instead of trying to delete it, help contribute to the article. Thats the point of Wikipedia. Bluehawkking (talk) 19:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: There is no extant sourcing to make this a stronger article. Almost all coverage is dedicated to the main series or the chef himself. Moritoriko (talk) 23:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then frickin delete then, dude. Bluehawkking (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 10:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teee Dollar of Lagos

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Non-notable TikToker. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 08:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Unreliable sources, promotional nonsense, no notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: An article published yesterday by somebody with zero edits before this. TikTok notability, while many people may know this individual (with over 5 million followers on the platform), he clearly does not warrant an article on Wikipedia. All the articles cited are websites that are not known for genuine news outlets - there is nothing to indicate he has done anything noteworthy outside of TikTok. Ré union! 19:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non notable Tiktoker. That he has 5.8 million followers doesn't mean he is notable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:59, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No notability besides social media. No SIGCOV in RS. Doesn't have enough notability to pass WP:GNG, WP:ENT or WP:NBIO. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:27, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO as nominated. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Social media measurement. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:33, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Views (social media)

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I don’t think this topic/concept requires an individual page to elaborate. Potential WP:OR as well. ~ BlueTurtles | talk 10:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Content views, their analysis, and related metrics, markets, meaning, and/or social or capital value are all subjects of measurable and enduring effect in today’s society. The article is nascent, but research of its topic will be published in sociology, media and economics journals. James Bateaux (talk) 12:16, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We write articles about topics that are already published in sources, not topics that “will be published”. See WP:CRYSTAL ApexParagon (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Social media measurement for now. Could have its own article in the future once it’s more widely covered in sources ApexParagon (talk) 16:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Social media measurement (previously, Weak Keep) - The current article is very poor, but this is a topic that has certainly generated a lot of academic and industry chatter over the years. I'm not totally sure it makes sense to have a separate article for this topic, and I don't think Social media measurement is a great redirect target. Trivially, academics have investigated views as a metric of interest, especially as a proxy for popularity.^[1] Zhou et al. 2010 has 500+ citations, and I see a bunch of references via Google Scholar that discuss YouTube or other social media views directly. I have no citations, but I've seen and read other work discussing and using views as a metric in work on other social media platforms. Another context I'm familiar with that explicitly studies and discusses views is in relevance feedback for recommender systems. Views are discussed independent of social media specifically,^[2] but also as one metric among many used in the development of recommender systems.^[3] I would be absolutely astonished if minimal searching in STS, comms, and media studies journals doesn't uncover theorizing about views as an aspect of social media popularity, relevance, marketing, etc. Suriname0 (talk) 17:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another example of how social media research talks about views: Participants in our study frequently referred to interaction metrics like time viewing a video before they swiped or watching the same video repeatedly as key information that companies collect on them. .... According to Google’s Privacy Policy, they collect information about views and interactions with ads, for example, whether the user mouses over the ad or interacts with other parts of the web page. One hypothesis for why youth are attuned to captivation metrics is because of the surge in popular apps that are built for rapid feedback and meta-awareness of behavior. For example, the microinteractions in TikTok. Users swipe in TikTok to make a decision about whether the video attracts them, with the default of view time being a positive signal. Furthermore, features like Apple’s ScreenTime make users’ time spent on apps salient.^[4] I note that views is not really the primary topic here, and in general I think this content would be more appropriate on a page focused on broader conceptions of engagement with social media. For that reason, I've tweaked my vote to a redirect. Suriname0 (talk) 17:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Zhou, Renjie; Khemmarat, Samamon; Gao, Lixin (2010-11-01). "The impact of YouTube recommendation system on video views". Proceedings of the 10th ACM SIGCOMM conference on Internet measurement. IMC '10. New York, NY, USA: Association for Computing Machinery: 404–410. doi:10.1145/1879141.1879193. ISBN 978-1-4503-0483-2.
^ Ding, Jingtao; Yu, Guanghui; He, Xiangnan; Quan, Yuhan; Li, Yong; Chua, Tat-Seng; Jin, Depeng; Yu, Jiajie (2018). "Improving Implicit Recommender Systems with View Data". International Joint Conference on Artificial Intelligence: 3343–3349.
^ Jannach, Dietmar; Lerche, Lukas; Zanker, Markus (2018), Brusilovsky, Peter; He, Daqing (eds.), "Recommending Based on Implicit Feedback", Social Information Access: Systems and Technologies, Cham: Springer International Publishing, pp. 510–569, doi:10.1007/978-3-319-90092-6_14, ISBN 978-3-319-90092-6, retrieved 2025-05-20
^ Goray, Cami; Schoenebeck, Sarita (2022-11-11). "Youths' Perceptions of Data Collection in Online Advertising and Social Media". Proc. ACM Hum.-Comput. Interact. 6 (CSCW2): 475:1–475:27. doi:10.1145/3555576.

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Xait

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After removing press releases and SYNTH, there's really not much here. Checking for sources doesn't show me anything that meets WP:NCORP, although it's possible there are some non-English sources that I didn't find in my search. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The Norwegian National Library's newspaper archives have 84 results for "Xait" after 2000 [17]. Some are clearly bad OCR artifacts, but some are about this company. Will analyze tomorrow. Toadspike [Talk] 21:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, they are mostly bad OCR artifacts. Some passing mentions (e.g. job listings, or a guy who works there playing in a band) too. Delete. Toadspike [Talk] 12:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Toadspike's source analysis. Notability is not established either way. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 22:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Krzak

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Fails WP:GNG zero independent reliable sources and conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 14:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom Laura240406 (talk) 16:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: I searched EBSCO database and Google News; and found only passing mentions confirming his animation credits, but lacking SIGCOV. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 19:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The few sources are only mentions, social media or primary sources. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 17:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - from what I can tell, an up and coming but not yet notable animator. Bearian (talk) 01:17, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no reliable coverage in independent media, apart from original research and possible not true facts in BLP page. Norlk (talk) 15:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Reads like an instagram page of self promotion. Nothing particularly notable and sourcing is poor. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Zendaya. ✗plicit 11:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zendaya's Hat Theory

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. At best, can be merged into main article and mentioned there. Article was AfC before possibly moved into main space without review. skovhund t 11:51, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Seems like routine internet joke/temporary conspiracy theory. Currently lacking coverage in sustained coverage in reliable sources to deserve an article. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 12:26, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Zendaya: not notable enough for a separate article with only one source Laura240406 (talk) 14:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Zendaya: Definitely does not have enough coverage by WP:RS to be notable. This is just a rumour with nothing to back it. Possibly also creeping into WP:NOTGOSSIP violation. Couple sources worth a mention at parent article. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Zendaya I found another source from Teen Vouge: [18], so it is certainly worth a mention in the parent article. Jumpytoo Talk 22:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Not a big enough meme to justify its own page, but enough news coverage to justify a mention on Zendaya's page BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 22:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as suggested. Bearian (talk) 01:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Zendaya I think that it would be good to have this be a redirect, definitely does not seem notable enough for it to have its own page given the number of RSes present. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Zendaya Not really notable on its own. Its just an internet fad. Ramos1990 (talk) 09:26, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Countryhumans

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Non-notable subject with no significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. Has already been deleted once and coverage has not improved since then. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 01:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Appears to be a very small internet subculture without notability. No coverage in reliable sources. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Just another semi-random internet fandom, no evidence of passing WP:NWEB or WP:GNG. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 01:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I originally created this page as a redirect to personification, if we can't find much reliable sources, we should make make it a redirect again. Also, the russian wikipedia article for Countryhumans has sources we could use--Thegoofhere (talk) 02:10, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There are scholary notes on Countryhumans in Russian. I don't speak Russian and I doubt you guys do. If we could get a Russo, that would be great Thegoofhere (talk) 02:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: There are almost no reliable sources that discuss this topic in a meaningful way. The Russian iteration of Wikipedia has a single source that might be useful, but there are no other usable discussions of this fandom. A redirect would not make sense without a mention in the target article. However, this is far too minor to mention in a general article on national personifications. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 23:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I added 4 sources, so I'm more worried about the reception, significance, and influence of Countryhumans, since WP:PLOT applies

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Delete - none of the sources seem reliable. Bearian (talk) 20:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Possible merge with Countryballs. Both articles are related. Although the Russian Countryhumans page has a few reliable sources like this Russian academic PDF (pp.153–158), it doesn't seem reasonable to have a standalone page about Countryhumans in English. EditorGirlAL07 (talk) 20:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Countryballs. the origin of Countryhumans comes from Polandball, this is a reply from an Polandball fan. IndoMaja (talk) 16:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Countryhumans with Countryballs as a small section. We've established that Countryhumans are notable, but don't really deserve a separate article. Thegoofhere (talk) 19:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really get that, it can't be notable if there are only minimal PDFs discussing it, and I can't see if they have been peer reviewed. I don't see anything worth merging, and I don't see the point in cramming poorly sourced information into another article. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 16:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Then I retract my statement. Delete. Thegoofhere (talk) 03:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per the 3 above. Sanemero the Robot Prince (not really, it's a Gloryhammer reference) 16:32, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It is not notable. The last AFD was SNOW delete too. Its just an internet fad. Was thinking of merge, but this article is just poorly sourced. Not much to salvage here. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agreed that the article is poorly sourced and it barely passes any notability guidelines. Galaxybeing (talk) 09:42, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. But it looks like there's consensus for "this article shouldn't exist at this title", so the next step may be WP:RM. asilvering (talk) 06:10, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RTP payload formats

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This is nothing more than a list of citations to Requests for Comments. This is inappropriate since Wikipedia is not a directory or a catalog * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- ~~Delete~~ I agree this is acting primarily as a directory for something that is highly technical in nature. The existence of various payloads is already noted in the main RTP article. Users interested in more detail can find these sorts of listings from there. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 01:26, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Real-time Transport Protocol#Profiles and payload formats. MarioGom (talk) 14:03, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to List of RTP payload formats.

I agree with User:Pppery that this article is sort of a list, but disagree that this is inappropriate. The table that constitues the bulk of the article gives context and explanation, refuting the argument on directories and catalogs. Instead, it describes a notable subject: the fact that there exist plethora of RTP payloads. It serves as a stepping stone for further investigation and research for those with further interest.

I also disagree with User:MarioGom that a redirect should suffice and with User:Wcquidditch that the existence is sufficiently described in the main article. The referenced section only briefly summarises the large number of different formats.— _D^an_d^orⁱ_D (talk) 06:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My only comment here (until now) has purely been deletion sorting; I have (and had) no opinion on the article. It is Anonrfjwhuikdzz that says that material at the main article — which I will note is Real-time Transport Protocol — is sufficient. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would be find with a redirect instead of deletion. I'm not convinced and exhaustive list is appropriate for wikipedia as we're not supposed to be a directory/catalog --- that's a job for the RFC series. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The RFC Editor only lists all RFCs and makes them available. It is not a function of the RFC Editor to present overviews per subject of any kind. The overview presented in RTP payload formats, compiled by many editors, stands on its own and has become a de facto source on the subject. This is reflected in the number of visitors of the page. Deletion would be a disservice to the public, IMHO; a rename better reflects the nature of the article.— _D^an_d^orⁱ_D (talk) 07:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - meets WP:NLIST: [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], etc. Rename to List of RTP payload formats if necessary. ~Kvng (talk) 14:57, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Real-time Transport Protocol#Profiles and payload formats per MarioGom. There is already a section in RTP main page. This looks like a list and notability is not really clear for a stand alone article. But it can be integrated to Real-time_Transport_Protocol#Standards_documents. I also do not think wikipedia is a repsitory of stuff, when external links can be used for a database that has such standards. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ramos1990, Do you think that the WP:LISTN standard is met? If so, would you be happy if we renamed the article to make it clear that it is a list and closed this AfD.

As a stand-alone article, it sounds like you're making a WP:NOT argument. What section of that policy do you think applies here? I guess WP:INDISCRIMINATE would be the most likely mapping for repository of stuff but I personally don't see a clear match to this situation. ~Kvng (talk) 13:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t think this meets WP:NLIST. Renaming may not help. I think an external link would be better than using Wikipedia as a depository. Ramos1990 (talk) 20:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment MarioGom and Ramos1990 have suggested redirecting which I assume means they don't believe we should have a stand-alone article/list on this topic. Without providing a reason for this preference, I assume/hope whoever closes this discussion will not give these opinions much weight. ~Kvng (talk) 22:39, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explained more on my reasoning. Ramos1990 (talk) 23:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not convinced this article is not acting as a directory for RFC articles/RTP payloads. Yes there is some discussion of these formats as a group which would qualify this for NLIST, but the arguments in favor of deletion/redirection have centered around what WP:ISNOT.

Outside of the opening summary there is not much providing context for the protocols. I don't understand the reasoning from @Dandorid that the table provides context or explanation to these protocols. These are just very basic summaries of the protocol specifications from my reading, but where is the context about development and uses that makes these entries something more than WP:NOTPLOT? Similar summary information seems to be available through IANA, so why not just link to their website in the main RTP protocol article for people with further interest? The only parts of the table that provided additional context were certain descriptions detailing changes in payload type/the reasons for reserved blocks but those specific instances could easily be added to the prose at Real-time Transport Protocol#Profiles and payload formats.

All of that said, I do want to change my vote to redirct with the target being the most appropriate section of Real-time Transport Protocol. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 02:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Either Keep or Merge with some other article, but absolutely don't delete the content. This article just helped me out today. Félix An (talk) 05:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This illustrates my point. Similar summary information seems to be available through IANA would be great to have, but I doubt it actually exists, Ramos1990. I believe this article summarises the wealth of options, in a way that a picture tells more than a thousand words. If you would summarise this page somewhere in a section of Real-time transport protocol you would need more than a thousand words to do the summary right.— _D^an_d^orⁱ_D (talk) 07:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So Keep or Rename. There is a dynamic that some fail to see here: Wikipedia is a primary source of information to many people. A sort of low information entropy: a concentration, a density, brought together by people that felt a certain need to do so. Destroying a page like this increases information entropy, which leaves you with a greater burden of finding the information (which undoubtedly exists in many places) yourself, and you only get it in bits and pieces. Most likely, somebody will recreate this page somewhere in the future, for the same reasons User:Sergeymasushko had when creating RTP payload formats. — _D^an_d^orⁱ_D (talk) 07:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is an utterly meaningless argument - by this logic one should never delete anything. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that is the main idea of WP:Inclusionism on Wikipedia, and I support inclusionism. After all, WP:Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, and we already have Britannica, which is generally more reliable than Wikipedia (see WP:CW), and only chooses the most notable topics. I think the advantage of Wikipedia is that it covers more niche topics compared to a traditional encyclopedia such as Britannica, which is why I'm an inclusionist. I usually read Britannica to get a broad overview of more popular topics, and I use Wikipedia for more niche topics like computing (this article) and railways. Félix An (talk) 09:20, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If none of my arguments make any sense whatsoever (I guess that is what you mean by utterly meaningless) then, by your logic, you should delete all articles and do away with Wikipedia altogether. — _D^an_d^orⁱ_D (talk) 07:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Sandstein: What's the justification for relisting this a second time? We're rehashing standard inclusionist/deletionist arguments and I'm sure you're aware we won't reach consensus on that here and continuing to discuss it does not foster goodwill between editors. There are no delete votes and it is pretty clear to me that the article meets WP:NLIST. The proposed merge or redirect suggestions can be worked on outside AfD. ~Kvng (talk) 23:26, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is that we don't yet have consensus among the editors who are advancing policy-based arguments. The closer would need to discount the last two "keep" opinions. This means there is still no agreement as to keep or redirect. Sandstein 06:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Félix An and Dandorid: can you offer us a policy-based reason why we should not delete this article? ~Kvng (talk) 15:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dandorid Will you also please strike one of your bolded votes? I am seeing a keep and two bolded renames from you. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 02:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Niels ten Oever

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I don't think subject passes WP:NPROF - he is asst. prof, h-index of 12 and no named chair or prestigious professional memberships I can locate. Although he is briefly quoted in a few news articles due to his association with digital rights group Article 19, I don't see anything that would qualify as WP:SIGCOV for WP:ANYBIO. He co-authored a book w/ over a dozen other people but I can only find one possibly independent review in a reliable source. WP:BEFORE was done in google news/books/scholar, JSTOR, newspapers.com, and PressReader (looking for Dutch and English sources). I don't see a clear merge/redirect target, and ultimately I think this might be WP:TOOSOON - as subject is still in relatively early days of his career (first publication was in 2017). Zzz plant (talk) 22:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Agreed on WP:NPROF. But this might qualify as WP:SIGCOV for WP:ANYBIO ? The work he has done with Mallory Knodel on oppressive language in the IETF got coverage in the New York Times ^[1], and the work he has done internet sanctions got covered in different places ^[2]^[3]. He also gets more widely cited about internet infrastructure governance issues, most notably outages in Wired ^[4] and The Face ^[5], on internet history and Web3 in the New Scientist ^[6], and on history of e-mail in Vox ^[7]. Seems to have more coverage in Dutch media. Detlevore (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Comment, Sebastian Moss (2022-03-03). "Ukraine invasion brings Internet governance neutrality question into focus". www.datacenterdynamics.com. Retrieved 2025-05-09.
^ "Ukraine invasion: We should consider internet sanctions, says ICANN ex-CEO". Archived from the original on 2025-02-07. Retrieved 2025-05-09.
^ Stokel-Walker, Chris. "What really went down when the internet went down". Wired. ISSN 1059-1028. Retrieved 2025-05-09.
^ "Who owns the internet?". The Face. 2021-06-11. Retrieved 2025-05-09.
^ #author.fullName}. "What is Web3 and how will it change the way we use the internet?". New Scientist. Retrieved 2025-05-09. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)
^ Morrison, Sara (2021-09-06). "How a simple email address makes things complicated". Vox. Retrieved 2025-05-09.

Reply from nom - my rationale was that in most of the coverage linked above he is just quoted (i.e. if you ctrl+f his (first/sur)name you find basically 1-2 results). As it doesn't really go in-depth about him specifically, I didn't consider it sigcov. It's very impressive to have your work mentioned in prestigious publications so early in career, I'm just not sure it confers notability. Zzz plant (talk) 23:02, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No pass of WP:Prof Assistant professors are almost never notable for WP:Prof and this is no exception. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:48, 9 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Delete - It's too soon for this emerging academic. The low h-index score indicates that they are not notable per WP criteria WP:PROF nor do they meet WP:GNG at this time. Perhaps in a few years after there is more attention to his work and research. Netherzone (talk) 22:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - that makes sense! Detlevore (talk) 23:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't see how he would be notable at present. gidonb (talk) 00:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:04, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oxylabs

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Poor sourcing, fails WP:GNG. Noting that some review articles exist about Oxylabs, although they appear to contain multiple affiliate links. The only piece of significant coverage I'm seeing about the company exists in the form of this TechRadar article about a lawsuit.^[1] 30Four (talk) 17:27, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Per nom. No RS, no SIGCOV. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 18:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: It is among the most notable residential proxy providers, along with Luminati. There's quite some technical discussion and brief company description in a book [24] published by O'Reilly Media, which is one of the top publishers in its category. There's also mentions in a lot of papers like [25] or [26], including significant technical discussion involving independent research of its network [27]. Also an in-depth review at PCMag [28]. And the source mentioned in the nomination. In terms of WP:ORGDEPTH, it seems a bit borderline though. MarioGom (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: no majr coverage. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 23:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lacks WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Every company cannot have their own page, they need to show that they are notable outside of just being a company. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lacks notability. Lacks WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Rahmatula786 (talk) 06:49, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Italian brainrot. ✗plicit 14:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bombardino Crocodilo

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Just another internet meme that has very little actual WP:RS coverage. Does not meet any of the WP:WEBCRIT, failing WP:NWEB and WP:GNG. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 13:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Let Know Your Meme take care of this stuff – ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 13:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Italian brainrot. All of the RS coverage that I can find discusses the character as an example of the broader "Italian brainrot" trend, e.g. this article in Wired. I can't find anything that discusses "Bombardino Crocodilo" itself in any real detail independent of that wider trend. I don't see any reason why this character can't be sufficiently covered within the article Italian brainrot. MCE89 (talk) 14:15, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can totally change it to be more specific, however, I can't reference a lot of that material, as much of it comes from Wiki fandom. The wiki fandom page has been deleted, though, which is why I started working on this. Matthaias Hodges (talk) 21:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per MCE89. --Bedivere (talk) 06:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and it's spelt "Bombardiro". Bedivere (talk) 06:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know, but I couldn't "move" the file to Wikipedia under that name, so I had to change the title to Bombardino. Kind of Strange Matthaias Hodges (talk) 21:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Italian brainrot: Not notable on it's own. Maybe WP:TOOSOON. No SIGCOV in RS, only meme, blogs or other minor sites. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 20:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested. It's not only lacking in significant coverage, it's quickly becoming a fork page. Bearian (talk) 08:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect This should also apply to Tung Tung Tung Sahur, Tralalero Tralala, Boneca Ambalabu, and other Italian brainrots. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 07:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect The sources do not justify it being notable on its own to justify inclusion but redirecting to Italian Brainrot seems to be the best course of action here. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per all. There is a logical redirect target per WP:ATD, but there isn't WP:SIGCOV to support a separate article. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per previous replies. :ProtobowlAddict ^talk! 22:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Italian brainrot#Characters: This character can easily be discussed in the main article on the wider Internet meme. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 05:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect: The article has new sources not present in Italian brainrot, so we should add those.

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 02:36, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reginald Vaughn Finley Sr.

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Have conducted a WP:BEFORE search and unable to find any real evidence of notability. Almost exclusively WP:SPS or unreliable. The only source worth anything is Flynn (The New Encyclopedia of Unbelief), but it's a very brief mention (about 40 words). Does not meet WP:GNG. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I don't see notability yet for GNG. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. I can't see enough notability either, and the article is too reliant on primary sources. Went up in 2004, and looks like one of those that escaped scrutiny in the days when the article creation/assessment process was less advanced. Leonstojka (talk) 10:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There are plenty of web pages pro and con about his skeptic activity but I wasn't convinced by the reliability of any of them. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:37, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not seeing anything to indicate a GNG pass. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. None of the arguments made in favor of keeping the article cited any relevant policy or guideline. ✗plicit 12:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paula Kruger

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Fails WP:JOURNALIST. Pizza on Pineapple ^{(Let's eat🍕)} 05:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there - I'm curious to know on what grounds you think this page is worthy of deletion - this is someone who has decades of relevant experience ARealWorm (talk) 06:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I'm curious to know why you don't think this person is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia- they have decades worth of relevant experience and engagement in the Australian industry and are now head of the Media Diversity Australia ARealWorm (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

not meeting notability due to a lack of independent sourcing Oaktree b (talk) 14:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Source 5 is the only independent sourcing about this person. I don't find any other articles that could be used for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 14:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. I think it's close. I agree that source 5 is the best source, and it's an article largely focused on the subject that was published in one of Australia's newspapers of record. But source 4 is also independent, significant coverage in a very reputable newspaper. I think you could easily make the case that those two sources are sufficient to meet WP:GNG. But both are very similar routine staffing announcements (one says she is joining ABC Radio Canberra, the other says she is now leaving), and feature a very high volume of quotes. I could be persuaded otherwise, but I don't think I really see the necessary depth in those two sources to demonstrate notability. MCE89 (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments - however there are more sources there now - please review ARealWorm (talk) 02:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't look like any edits have been made to the article since I left my comment here. What additional sources are you referring to? MCE89 (talk) 02:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Totally unharmful to have an article Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I do not think it shows what she is notable for. It just reads like a resume. Certainly not enough for a stand alone article. Ramos1990 (talk) 07:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Marie Lu. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fuzz Academy

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Can't find a lick of reliable secondary coverage apart from a one sentence in an NPR profile of the creator, a successful author. I've added mention to the creator's biography based on that source. This can go. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Marie Lu, where nom added a cited mention. ~ A412 ^talk! 04:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, good WP:ATD. IgelRM (talk) 18:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t think this page should be deleted. The creator’s Deviant Art Account has information about the site, under the username “mree”. There is little record of Fuzz Academy beyond their art uploads and commentary about the game in their posts. One day there may be even less record of it’s existence, save for a little stubby Wikipedia article - but at least it won’t become entirely lost media. Some of us still hold these forgotten, defunct games in our hearts, and to lose record of their existence is a saddening thought. 173.184.50.33 (talk) 22:04, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should copy this article, with attribution, to an appropriate wiki related to video games or internet culture or something like that. You can also just save it and republish it (with attribution) on a blog, or as a Reddit post, or something. But to be included on Wikipedia, reliable sources need to demonstrate a topic’s notability, and Fuzz Academy does not meet this standard. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Was briefly active a decade ago, then nothing mentioned since. A reddit sub and some trademark registrations are about all I pull up, nothing notable about the website. Oaktree b (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing is poor and notability is not established. Reads like an advertisement. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:54, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Poor sourcing and non-existent plausible sigcov. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. There is a consensus to keep with the notability guidelines fulfilled and the nomination was also withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) — Benison (Beni · talk) 03:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Alan Levy

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No indication of significance. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 16:54, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No RS that discuss this person are used for sourcing. Source 15 is a RS but doesn't mention this person. I don't see any either, some primary sourcing only. The was at AfD over a decade ago, and still no RS have turned up. I don't think this person is notable. Oaktree b (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The current article is in need of a clean-up and better sourcing, but I think some alternatives to deletion per Wikipedia:ATD are appropriate and I think this nomination is premature. This profile in the Washingtonian demonstrates, at least to me, there is a chance that the subject can meet WP:GNG based on a 40-year legal career at a large public advocacy group that includes arguing in front of SCOTUS. A search on Google Scholar indicates he is published in legal journals at least more than a regular attorney. Google Scholar is the floor, not the ceiling based on his writing in the University of Michigan Journal of Law Reform. In addition, he is mentioned in a number of books at the Internet Archive including books independent of him and Public Citizen. I would also recommend, should we not keep, to !redirect to Public Citizen where the guy has worked for over 40 years. The preface of "weak" is that I am in a space of quantity vs quality at this point with Internet Archive, JSTOR, etc. I am very open to the possibility he is not the subject in enough of these or that the work is not so atypical as to warrant an individual article as a non-attorney.--Mpen320 (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is not coverage. That short article are the real thing that mention him in any detail. There is no other WP:SECONDARY coverage that I can find that is specifically about him. And its nothing like enough. scope_creep^Talk 05:42, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I will go through the reference and look at them in detail in the next couple of days to see what is what. scope_creep^Talk 06:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I have seen a few articles about him from reliable sources that prove notability. One of them in my quick look was the Washingtonian February 3 article "Paul Levy, the Web Bully’s Worst Enemy", which also made me laugh out loud. Collectively regular coverage in Reason and New York Times, it satisfies me. He sounds like an interesting man. He's also got my interest too. Karl Twist (talk) 08:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep inclined to say that he is on this side of GNG. Andre🚐 03:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence free !voting there I see. scope_creep^Talk 16:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Lets look at the references:

Ref 1 [29] That is self-written profile. Not independent.
Ref 2 [30] Secondary source.
Ref 3 [31] Not about him. Its a passing mention.
Ref 4 [32] CV. Not independent.
Ref 5 Non-rs
Ref 6 [33] That is a spam and will need to be removed.
Ref 7 [34] Another passing mention.
Ref 8 [35] Passing mention.
Ref 9 [36] Passing mention.
Ref 10 [37] Not independent.
Ref 11 404
Ref 12 [38] The docket. Non-rs
Ref 13 [39] Not independent.
Ref 14 [40] A short quote from him. Not independent.

The first two blocks of references, 2 non-rs, 5 not-independent, 4 passing mentions, a 404, a spam link and 1 secondary source that reads like a puff piece. This is a WP:BLP. Its states in that policy Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources The sources are atrocious. They are crap. There is no other way to desribe them. scope_creep^Talk 16:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't the Justia RS? It is a primary source and I saw nothing on RSP about Justia being unreliable. Many of the sources corroborating this person's existence are court dockets. And what is wrong with Washingtonian being a secondary source? "Levy, an attorney with the Public Citizen Litigation Group who has represented union dissidents" in the Michigan Law Review articles on JSTOR, "Paul Alan Levy , an attor ney with the Public Citizen Litigation Group in Washington, D.C." on the ABA Journal, his book was cited by the NLRB... Andre🚐 06:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Court dockets don't prove notability. They are records of mandatory attendance and that all you can say about them. They don't confer notability and notability is not inhereted off them. There is nothing wrong with the Washingtonian source as a secondary ref. But it needs more than source to prove a person is notable. This is a WP:BLP. Not a article about some song. WP:THREE is standard here per established consensus (summer before last). 3 secondary sources will do it. scope_creep^Talk 08:27, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

His own work doesn't towards notability unless its been reviewed and published by external reviewers (not social media). So far I've not seen any evidence to contrary that any of his work is notable. scope_creep^Talk 08:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see the dockets (Justia) machine generated is non-rs generally. scope_creep^Talk 08:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, there's enough collectively to make the Keep grade. Looking in Google Newspapers archive the other day, there's some good usable stuff too. I can see that there was a good past attempt to make a decent article here, but it's set up wrong and some parts need to be re-written. That being said, I believe this has the making of a very good article. It just needs work. Because this is a legal-related article, it's a bit harder and for me it's a more involved kind of thing which I wish I had time for. Karl Twist (talk) 06:13, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another policy free keep !vote. Do you have WP:THREE good references that prove its notable. scope_creep^Talk 14:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: In its current form, as I am reading the article, I agree that the sources could be cleaned up and that there is a lot that contributes more to verifiability than significance. That said, the Washingtonian source, combined with sufficient academic and legal analysis of his work available online (for example, by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and other references in the current article), dissuades me from believing it is not noteworthy. Many cases that he has represented (and are cited here) are notable, and while that needs to be discounted for his passing mention, there are many of those examples that do end up adding up. WeWake (talk) 02:50, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've asked two attorney's on Wikipedia for a view for a clearer consensus. scope_creep^Talk 10:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've spoken to an attorney. He thinks the subject is notable and he gave me a very good reason why he thinks the subject is notable, which has cleared the way for me. I suspect the article will be full of references from obits when the man dies. Time waits for all folk on Wikipedia. Nomination Withdrawn as keep scope_creep^Talk 13:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep:—appreciate the extra fact-finding. I am wondering if you might be inclined to share what you discovered, whether aspects originally missed or not covered in these discussions, that motivated the withdrawal. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the vast majority of sources are reliable sources. A few references can be cut out, but overall the subject has significant coverage. While it's not policy and just my personal opinion, he passes my standards, because he's done enough for the legal community. Bearian (talk) 16:43, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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