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Through a web search, it doesn't appear that this is a notable company. I've found some web articles [1][2][3], but with a quick read, I'm concerned about significant coverage (i.e., commentary, analysis, etc.) of the company's services within those sources, per WP:CORPDEPTH. Best, Bridget (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article reads like an advertisement or product description rather than an article, which is not acceptable in Wikipedia's standards. In addition, there are just three references; one by the company's own page, an article in a technologic publication and a product review. These are not enough to consider the company to be notable. Just to be sure, I searched for more inependent sources on the company to possibly add later on, and found almost nothing beyond brief mentions. NeoGaze (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't think there's SIGCOV of the company, but I found several sources about the product: [4], [5], [6], [7]. I'm not entirely sure how to resolve that. Anerdw (talk) 17:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Great and Powerful Trixie

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Not enough in-depth coverage and no scholarly discussions of this character. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and Redirect to List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters; refs appear to be passing mentions largely acknowledging the character exists or outright fan sites, and there are a couple of limp listicles on GNews. Would say this one falls clearly short of GNG it's not without some limited validity as a redirect to the character article. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters per BoomboxTestarossa. Searches using both the "Great and Powerful Trixie" and "Trixie Lulamoon" names are turning up nothing but trivial mentions in reliable sources, meaning the character fails the WP:GNG. But, as she is already included in the character list for the series, a Redirect would be an appropriate WP:ATD, and any missing information can be merged over to her entry there. Rorshacma (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Falcon (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. All besides that is very trivial. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Why don't we bundle these together into one AfD, seeing as they're all sourced from the same material anyway? Oaktree b (talk) 20:21, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There has to have been a better way to handle this; the nominator created 52 AfDs for the same topic area in just over an hour. BOZ (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
and my reply is the same for all of them, see below. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b thanks, you might want to copy your !vote to some of the more deserving discussions, since AFD closers might only look at the one(s) they are closing, and not this one. BOZ (talk) 21:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

52 AFDs is kinda insane WP:TRAINWRECK type stuff. Nom said they "should be redirected": why weren't they just redirected in the first place? BD2412 provided a good redirect target below. /over.throws/^✎ 21:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You’re asking why they weren’t just unilaterally blanked and redirected? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can be WP:BOLD and try it next time while keeping categories intact, and take time to read about how to perform a bundled nom rather than creating a WP:TRAINWRECK. Neutral on this because who has time to go through this literal 52 pickup mess of noms (and I'd probably just do what BD2412 did anyways)? Nathannah • 📮 23:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanahary Or you could have suggested in on a talk page first, or spoken to active editors on the area first if you gave a hoot about etiquette. This is a huge amount of work you've created for voters and admins - undoubtedly much larger than the time and effort you spent mechanically cutting and pasting a template onto 52 articles at a rate of just over one a minute - guessing the time it took to jump down to 'References' and back up, edit the article and drop the text in from your clipboard for each nomination.

Most of these articles need merging (Falcon might have a bit somewhere from the whole film lead/Don Johnson thing; Mindbender might from being in the dreadful movie and being a relatively major character in the cartoon and comic, and for his ridiculous costume), but you've done it in probably the most obnoxious way possible. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 15:47, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep: CBR is an accepted RS per Project Comic Books on Wikipedia, here [8]. This [9] is a Google search showing articles where this character appears on the CBR website. We should have at least enough for a stub article about the character. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't even think a BEFORE was done. This is the second book that comes up, detailing every character in-universe [10], as does this one [11], or this [12]... Oaktree b (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The toy line is discussed here [13], brief, but it helps. Oaktree b (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The toy line is—Falcon is not. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did do BEFORE—I just don't think entries in "every character from GI Joe" count as WP:SIGCOV. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, but that doesn't mean no character from GI Joe is. Honestly I am not putting more work into this than you have by clogging up the AfD page for everyone, but the amount of hits I'm getting for the 2-3 characters I've bothered with suggests you've either rushed BEFORE based on what's in the articles rather than what's out there to potentially be added or you are some sort of high-level super-processor. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject page seems to be referring to a specific column in CBR, and even then it says "to use your judgement". Meanwhile, WikiProject Video Games says that "content after 2016 is seen as generally unreliable". Industrial Insect (talk) 14:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree that these AFDs about GI Joe characters should be grouped OR most should be closed for now to avoid overwhelming editors. I do not believe it is possible to nominate 52 articles in a little over an hour while doing due diligence with WP:BEFORE. Pretty much all of these characters have google hits, and due diligence requires more than a minute to check and read sources in normal search engine + books. These discussions are likely to have similar arguments about the notability and/or reliability of secondary sources focused on GI Joe (e.g. [14]). Once that discussion has been had, the community can proceed to keep, merge, and/or redirect articles based on a consensus.
On another note, maybe there needs to be a limit on how many AfD/Prods an editor can make in a given day to avoid overwhelming the process. Not what the best place would be to have such a discussion or if such a thing is even technically feasible.

Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ok with the !redirect if needed. I don't have time to look at 50-something AfD's for one same franchise. Oaktree b (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. Most of this is unsourced or coming from officially licensed material, and doesn't meet the WP:GNG. Editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE after a redirect. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:13, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't really keep track of the whole "this site is unreliable because I want this article deleted" bullpoop, and obviously there's the whole "closing admin does what they want" thing in the mix. But: -

Might be worth a look. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. Daranios (talk) 09:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made above and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the claims of @Oaktree b:, @Daranios:, and @BOZ:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shipwreck (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same caveats, but

Most of it is making fun, and I suspect 90% of the links magically don't count, but there's actually more out there about the Joes than I expected. Curious as to how Baleety McGee was able to sift through all of this and discard it in such a rapid fashion. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Kick (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials (plus a super trivial mention in another material; not even due for inclusion anyways). Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural keep: due to suspect BEFORE. Potential non-primary sources easily found on the internet:
- https://www.cbr.com/shang-chi-student-gi-joe-quick-kick-mcu/
  
  https://screenrant.com/shang-chi-gi-joe-crossover-marvel-comics/
  
  https://www.cbr.com/best-overshadowed-gi-joe-characters/
  
  https://www.cbr.com/gi-joe-best-combatants/
  
  https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fPYYEQAAQBAJ
  
  https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Articulating_the_Action_Figure/2D5UDgAAQBAJ?

Not sure if it's enough to tip into notability, though the Shang-Chi thing is a bit interesting. But certainly not the lack of sources the nomination indicated. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doc (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Torpedo (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tripwire (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zap (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials, plus a trivial mention in an unrelated work of fiction. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Short-Fuze (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tunnel Rat (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Steeler (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:52, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mutt (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Study in "Other works" is not sufficient for GNG. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rock 'n Roll (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned, mostly trivially, in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:50, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kamakura (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Law & Order (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. Doesn't meet WP:GNG, but editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Slip Stream (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; literally only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:46, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:21, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thrasher (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials, plus a mention in an unrelated novel. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as two different Merge target articles were suggested.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Blowtorch (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:43, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:21, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Psyche-Out

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No demonstrated notability; literally only sourced to primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:21, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lifeline (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; trivially mentioned outside of primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zarana

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No demonstrated notability; trivially mentioned outside of primary GIJ materials. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters, as per above. Surprised there isn't more on her out there, I guess "cartoon characters I had a crush on when I was 9" isn't much of a news magnet... BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Outback (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only a character mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials, with no other sources. Should be merged or redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:37, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Recondo (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Article is basically a summary of primary sources. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wild Bill (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment going to be some repeats in these, but I don't feel bad about that from cookie cutter nominations.

BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dial Tone (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Mention in novel does not establish notability. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV, but editors can figure out if any verifiable content can be preserved at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:18, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:25, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Grunt (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; almost only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Additional mentions are really trivial. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:31, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flash (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stone (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, but editors can figure out if any verifiable content can be WP:PRESERVEd at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shockwave (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deep Six (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stalker (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: procedural vote on grounds of poor BEFORE. This is a scab I can't seem to stop picking. Again, the nomination only seems to be discussing the sources currently present in the article, and not sources easily findable through the most basic Google search.

Some of those are probably passing mentions; some are probably on the list of sites that aren't allowed because *smokebomb*, but what most are not is "(almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials", and the ones that are Joe branded stuff seem to be from legit publishers rather than directly licenced piffle.

If AfD was fit for purpose there would be devices to stop this sort of flood; sanctioning those who repeatedly do not conduct adequate BEFORE; preventing people misusing AfD for articles they believe should be merges or redirects; and dealing with any attempts to game the system. But too many closers like deleting pages, so that will never happen. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Copperhead (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Major Bludd

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep due to suspect BEFORE. Potential sources that are not "(almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials".

Again, not sure if it's enough to sway into notability but there's a bit more out there for many Joe characters (particularly the ones who had sizable roles in the cartoon) than I expected. To the extent that I'm wondering if I'm using the same Google as everyone else. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 21:28, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, never seen an AfD vote that doesn't even ostense to assert about an article or its subject's notability before. Thanks for looking, and I'll take a look at these sources and follow up here, if you don't get around to reading and commenting on the sources you brought here first. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:17, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why didn't those sources show up on your BEFORE? They're simple Google Book/News results, which I went maybe three pages deep on. If you weren't previously aware of those sources and need to follow up on them now or for me or someone else to do it, you have not conducted adequate BEFORE. And if you've not conducted adequate BEFORE for fifty-something nominations that means you've spammed AfD for nothing. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 22:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I did see most of these and I still think this article should be merged because its subject isn’t notable enough and there’s not much to discuss about him outside of primary-sourced plot summaries. A handful of them I haven’t encountered, though. I was just being polite since this vote is like the tenth salty comment about me that I’ve seen you make on my Watchlist. Re: my profound incompetence/evil, that sounds like a discussion for my Talk page, not this deletion discussion. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:35, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you need to "take a look at these sources and follow up here" if you've seen them before?
Why doesn't your nomination here include a note that there are some links out there but for whatever reason they're not enough to make the article notable, but instead a misleading and incomplete rationale?
How is there around a minute between most of these nominations if you're conducting thorough BEFORE?
Why are you nominating articles for deletion if you think they should be redirected?
Why do you think it is acceptable for you to be so slapdash and for other editors to run around looking for and evaluating sources you can't be bothered to "take a look" at before triggering an AfD, or before raising concerns on talk pages?

Trying to worm around that I'm calling you 'evil' or that you're getting 'salty' comments when you seem to expect other editors to put more time in than you can be bothered to seems like a bit of a reach, TBH. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 22:44, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fasho ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:57, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I think it's fair game to discuss how you have compiled an AfD on an AfD page, however much you would like to project that the only possible objection anyone could have to the way you've done so is somehow personally motivated. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 22:48, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Low-Light (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost exclusively primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Kessler

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in primary G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mercer (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alpine (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. The mention in an essay (in the last section) is completely trivial and undue. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:13, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment again, the problem with all these nominations is we could do with examining sources that cover multiple characters on a test case. To my eye https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wvYYEQAAQBAJ and https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Ultimate_Guide_to_G_I_Joe_1982_1994/_BNjDwAAQBAJ look like legit secondary sources, not licenced by the toy company and published by what seem to be legit if niche publishers. Obviously we'd then have to sift to find out if they're only mentioned in a list of toys or there's something more in depth, but there's no point in doing that without knowing if the source is admissible, and YMMV. Likewise, I personally can't keep track of which GNews sites count. Not a fan of listicles, but depending on what out of CBR, Screenrant, Hard Times, Geek Tyrant, Comics Alliance, Cracked etc. count again they'd get a lot of articles over the line, and even provide some sort of reception section even if it was "This website said they dressed like an idiot". BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 23:21, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I am sorry I keep marking edits as minor, though. Muscle memory =( BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 23:23, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Snow Job (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (almost only primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Mindbender

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning keep, as a particularly high-profile and widely adapted character in the media. BD2412 T 20:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the fact that is one of the elite members of Cobra Command and per the claims of @BD2412:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Last one of these I'm doing for now, but: -

"Dr. Mindbender" seems to often be used - from what I can tell it was the name printed on the toy's card back in 198-whatever. Not doing more than skimming quickly as it's not worth the effort when AfD is so badly run. But some of these are not as cut-and-dried as the nominator suggests. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 16:36, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clutch (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bazooka (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crimson Guard

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:09, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect per WP:ATD. This doesn't pass WP:GNG and is mostly unsourced or inappropriately sourced to official G.I. Joe materials. Editors can decide what to WP:PRESERVE at the redirect target. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the claims that were made by @BOZ: and @Daranios: --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chuckles (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Breaker (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spirit (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mainframe (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leatherneck (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wet Suit (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Beach Head (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rip Cord (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:52, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zandar

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)Bold text[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:52, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dusty (G.I. Joe)

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No demonstrated notability; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with this target ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all characters nominated today to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. The seven-year-old me is crying, but primary-sourced fancruft isn't sufficient to pass WP:GNG. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per all. There isn't enough third-party coverage to pass WP:SIGCOV, but there is a clear merge/redirect target, per WP:ATD. Editors can figure out how much to WP:PRESERVE based on what little sourcing there is. Shooterwalker (talk) 22:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:47, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gung-Ho (G.I. Joe)

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Not independently notable; only covered in (mostly primary) G.I. Joe materials. Should be merged to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning keep, as this character in particular has been particularly widely used and adapted. BD2412 T 20:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the sourcing demonstrating notability? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:29, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: until proper BEFORE is proven.
- Possibles: -
https://www.cbr.com/gi-joes-better-in-comics/

https://screenrant.com/transformers-gi-joe-movie-chris-hemsworth-characters-play/

https://www.cbr.com/the-coolest-g-i-joes-ranked/

https://underscoopfire.com/ill-prepared-gijoe-characters/

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fPYYEQAAQBAJ

https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Ultimate_Guide_to_G_I_Joe_1982_1994/_BNjDwAAQBAJ?

Again, while some of these are Notability Nobodies some require greater research than these 'bot nominations suggest. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 17:31, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area) and per arguments made here about potential sources. BOZ (talk) 23:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep for all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. Daranios (talk) 09:55, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep per this mass of nominations and the arguments already laid out by BOZ and others. Close Keep all of these G.I. Joe pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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L'Atelier Animation

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does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies. The article lacks significant independent coverage from reliable sources that establish notability Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 08:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete. fails WP:SIRS fifteen thousand two hundred twenty nine (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not meet WP:GNG--Kopnakolicti (talk) 07:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – I added films that L'Atelier Animation helped make. It has been profiled in reliable sources including Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, Animation Magazine and Cartoon Brew. Kansas Reimer (talk) 02:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Cinesite. I can see a lot of very niche trade references about the company ... though I can't see the Variety or Hollywood Reporter profiles (can you link them User:Kansas Reimer?). There's enough out there that delete would be overkill. But I'd need to be convinced that it couldn't be included in the website for the company, rather than this division. Nfitz (talk) 22:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Cinesite as not independently notable but relevant to that article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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My Little Pony: Twilight Sparkle, Teacher for a Day

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Non-notable app; no secondary coverage whatsoever ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There are already reviews from Kirkus, Common Sense Media, and Wired in the article. I also found mentions in Kotaku and 148Apps. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I think it toes the line of passing and not passing GNG, but there is a clear merge target. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. MidnightMayhem 14:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The reviews in Wired, CSM and Kirkus Reviews are enough for GNG. The article needs better sourcing and probably could do with some expansion but AfD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Pamzeis (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree with Pamzeis that the Wired, Common Sense Media, and Kirkus Reviews reviews already on the article appear to meet GNG. 148Apps is noted as a situational source on WP:VG/RS, but the review linked by Vacant0 is also fairly in-depth. Waxworker (talk) 14:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per Pamzeis and Waxworker above. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 06:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, the sources are enough to pass GNG (though the article could definitely be improved).

I originally supported merging to the MLP article, but I changed my mind, since the MLP article only has a very general overview of other media in the "Other Media" section. Weak support for a stand-alone article. ApexParagon (talk) 01:02, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Flashpoint (comics) characters

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A list of characters for a specific comic book story arc. This is not separately notable as a concept, as the characters of Flashpoint have received little coverage individually of their mainline counterparts. A search yielded nothing. All major plot relevant characters are covered in the plot section of Flashpoint, so I would support a Redirect here as an AtD. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: A reasonable WP:SPLIT. Remember that WP:NLIST indicates that list can be kept for navigational reasons; adding sources and removing material/spitting the page is necessary, though, which are cleanup issues. -Mushy Yank. 09:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per the claims that were made by @Mushy Yank:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOR, a core content policy. There isn't a single non-primary source here, nor does there seem to be any discussion in sources of this grouping per WP:NLIST. This is merely the broader characters that appear in some story arc, many of which have articles due to independent notability, but not because they're in this specific arc, and so Mushy Yank's claim that this is a valid navigational list is just flat wrong. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you but precisely because most characters have a page, a list is even more helpful in terms of navigation. WP:NLIST clearly states that although "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists" "There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists, although non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations are touched upon in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a directory. Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability." (emphasis mine; but maybe that too is "flat wrong"_. Also in terms of size, put back all this content in the article would make navigation extremely uneasy and a split is necessary. (But you have sources you can add if you wish, addressing the topic as a set: https://www.cbr.com/dc-flashpoint-heroes-ranked/ ; https://comicvine.gamespot.com/flashpoint-universe/4015-56524/characters/ ; https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/30/flashpoint-all-the-major-heroes-and-villains-in-the-epic-dc-flash-story https://comicsalliance.com/flashpoint-dc-comics/ and so on and they are also covered "in this specific arc" in The DC Comics Universe: Critical Essays. (2022). McFarland Publishing, pp. 118, 120 for example). -Mushy Yank. 00:30, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I almost forgot. You now have sources you can add but your reference to WP:OR was absolutely not relevant anyway because regarding content of fiction, the fiction itself is the source (a guideline); see the essay Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary for further information: "For especially large or complex fictional works, certain elements may be split off into additional articles per WP:SS. Such related articles should be clearly cross-linked so that readers can understand the full context and impact of the work. Such an article may have what amounts to a different kind of plot summary. For instance, an article on Hamlet the character as opposed to Hamlet the play would just summarize Prince Hamlet's individual plot arc through the play. You might begin the section with something like, "The play charts Hamlet's tragic downfall as he pursues revenge against his uncle Claudius", and then summarize the events that contribute to that tragic downfall, using all the same guidelines you would in general." That is precisely the case of this list, from a split of the main page. -Mushy Yank. 00:39, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All of these bar the Valnet source (Which doesn't contribute to notability) are all either just character listings or plot summaries. While verifiable, being verifiable does not make a subject notable. Additionally, the article still fails Wikipedia:PLOT, as this would be all plot summary without any form of notability tied to it. Per MOS:CHARACTERS: "do not include every peripheral character, or every detail about a major character; this is not an indiscriminate collection of information." This list clearly fails this criteria, and if the main Flashpoint article needs a small section, so be it. But a whole list is not necessary for a subject of Flashpoint's size and the relative non-notability of this particular subset of characters. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This list serves no recognized navigational purpose, and it is OR. While the source material can serve as a source for basic plot summaries, as noted above, that doesn't extend to vast swaths of detailed, opinionated material about dozens and dozens of characters, which is what this list is. I spot checked two of those sources; one was WP:UGC, and another had no information about the topic. If you actually want to present sources, please stick to usable ones. Regardless, it's hard to see how such an overly detailed, crufty list such as this is needed. If you want to include a main character list in the main article, then do so, but this isn't needed (or notable). 35.139.154.158 (talk) 01:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Despite the above keep !votes, it does not meet WP:NLIST. Orientls (talk) 15:35, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the claims made by @Mushy Yank An editor from Mars (talk) 06:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What claims? How do you get around the fact that there isn't a single source in this list, and it's complete OR? Or that there's no sourcing to demonstrate this as some kind of notable grouping? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect per WP:ATD. Articles need WP:SIGCOV, and claims only go so far. In terms of navigation, links already exist at the main Flashpoint (comics) article, and we could even add them to the template. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The list has no sources included that are not just the comics themselves, and none of the keep votes have offered a valid argument for how this passes WP:LISTN. Any notability for the Flashpoint (comics) series itself does not automatically extend to justify listing a multitude of minor characters that have no reliable sources that actually discuss them in any meaningful way. The few characters that were central to the plot of the comic are already described at the main article's plot summary. Rorshacma (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: As a list, don't think meets WP:NLIST. And I see that many Categories exists around these characters, which is good enough for grouping. Asteramellus (talk) 19:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lance Kramer

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Unsourced biography from 2006. Could not find SIGCOV about him. Natg 19 (talk) 23:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Some coverage for someone with a similar name [15], I don't know if it's this person though. Oaktree b (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think it is the same person. IMDB (not RS, I know) has several Lance Kramers: [16][17] Natg 19 (talk) 01:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Doesn't follow WP:GNG and the lack of sources seems like grounds for deletion. Cottagechez (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I'm yet undecided. He directed a number of episodes, so there should be sources. Most of the article was written by IP editors, but I reached out to Jdb00. Bearian (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He meets WP:CREATIVE#3, as having played a major role (directing) in the creation of a notable work The Simpsons, which has been the subject of multiple, independent reviews. I have found one article about him, from 2000, and several reviews of two short animated films of his shown in animation festivals in the early 1990s. Otherwise, I have found sources that confirm his role as director in the episodes of the Simpsons. I think that is enough to satisfy WP:CREATIVE#3, as they provide verification of his role. (This person is not the same as the Lance Kramer who with his brother Brandon Kramer has made The First Step and Holding Liat - that Lance Kramer will probably be notable too.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that he means CREATIVE#3 as Kramer is not the "creator" of the Simpsons - that would be Matt Groening. And CREATIVE#3 mentions (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series). However, the 3 articles mentioned may meet WP:BASIC. Can you put links to the articles here? Natg 19 (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CREATIVE includes WP:DIRECTOR and other creative professions - it does not mean just the original creator of a series. The wording you quote is about what form coverage of "the significant or well-known work or collective body of work" can take: the work "must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work, for example ...". Lance Kramer directed 25 episodes of The Simpsons - it seems to me that he "played a major role in co-creating" it. The sources are in the article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I still disagree with you, as directing 25 episodes is very minor, out of the 783 (and growing) number of The Simpsons episodes. That is less than 5%. Will review the sources later on. Natg 19 (talk) 18:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Many people work on these TV shows, but most do not have their own stand alone article. Does not look notable and sourcing is not that great. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: My sources above were not helpful. I don't see notability... Oaktree b (talk) 15:00, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Marv (Sin City)

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Minor comic book character. While there is a reception, it is just a summary of several listicles, in which the character takes at best a 24th place. Other than that, this is just a plot summary and a list of appearances in various media. This fails WP:GNG and at best could be redirected to the List of Sin City characters _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to List of Sin City characters: the info currently in reception can be merged to the list, condensed to about a sentence, probably, and the rest of the article is just plot summary. Did a quick google and didn't find anything obvious -- it seems unlikely by assumption he needs his own article separate from Sin City. I don't know of a lot of reviews that only talk about one character except for the most famous works. (see below) Mrfoogles (talk) 02:44, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He is not a "minor comic book character"!!!!! I've expanded the reception. Please take less Sin City-related articles to AfD or do thorough BEFORES, Piotrus. Marv clearly meets WP:GNG. Thank you.-Mushy Yank. 19:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to List of Sin City characters - Mushy Yank has done good work, but in my opinion all of these are passing mentions of Marv, except for maybe the Dan Rempala book, so it still doesn't meet GNG. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 14:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tons of other sources exist; might add more if I have time. (and thank you but I beg to differ, most of the sources I added are not only "passing mentions"). -Mushy Yank. 16:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added a couple of things again. No time to do more but sources exist (a lot). -Mushy Yank. 17:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per all, as WP:ATD. I see WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs and listicles that don't support a separate article, but could improve the character list. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:41, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Look harder, please. To quote the essay you are citing: "Significant coverage' means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." -Mushy Yank. 18:21, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per @Mushy Yank. I fail to see how these are all passing mentions. Madeleine (talk) 00:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mushy Yank and Madeleine961. Main character in a prominent property, with reasonable coverage. BD2412 T 19:21, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per all above ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:31, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closer: not sure a relist was necessary as no merge !voter so far nor the nominator had responded to the significant GNG-level temporarily final expansion of the reception section (please note that I expanded the page in two phases and that much more exists), which seemed to address the nominator’s concern. So that new M !vote(s) -if based on "all above" and no other argument- should be weighed with that in mind. -Mushy Yank. 15:14, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I still see three editors arguing for a Merge. Just because they weighed in to this AFD before your editing contributions to the article doesn't erase their arguments here. But since you object to the relisting, I'll leave this discussion for another closer to handle. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:52, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I cannot access all the sources cited in the Reception and interpretation section, but the ones I can, like "Everything I Need to Know, I Learned from Mickey Rourke Movies", have significant coverage of this character. It is also clear that merging all of this relevant content to a list where this character already has the longest entry would be hugely undue. Arguments such as the nominator's this is just a plot summary and a list of appearances in various media and Mrfoogles's the info currently in reception can be merged to the list, condensed to about a sentence have been thoroughly addressed by the subsequent improvement to the Reception section. Toadspike [Talk] 07:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. There is now enough heft to the reception, including content from decent sources, that I believe a standalone article is warranted. The article is in appalling shape, though - someone needs to take a hatchet to all the original research. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Changing my vote to keep -- reception is definitely expanded enough to show this needs its own article. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:07, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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