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[edit]- Miracle Machine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of the sources are reliable independent sources, and nothing better could be found. Fram (talk) 13:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: This character is not significantly discussed by reliable sources. Furthermore, this character is not the clear primary topic for the term "miracle machine". ―Susmuffin Talk 23:21, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- TIL that the character in those videos I watched as a kid has a name. No sourcing exists whatsoever for this, so delete. Honestly this could probably be speedied this is very niche. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Not a single source being used in the article is a reliable source, and searches are turning up next to nothing. Clearly fails the WP:GNG. Rorshacma (talk) 23:52, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. No significant coverage. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 10:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Albuquerque: THE MOVIE (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Couldn't find any evidence of notability, only databases or unreliable sources. Fram (talk) 13:25, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: If we could find any sort of RS coverage for this - even just a mention - we could probably add this to the reception section on the song's article. So far I'm finding nothing that could be usable. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Powtoon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Through a web search, it doesn't appear that this is a notable company. I've found some web articles [1][2][3], but with a quick read, I'm concerned about significant coverage (i.e., commentary, analysis, etc.) of the company's services within those sources, per WP:CORPDEPTH. Best, Bridget (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete The article reads like an advertisement or product description rather than an article, which is not acceptable in Wikipedia's standards. In addition, there are just three references; one by the company's own page, an article in a technologic publication and a product review. These are not enough to consider the company to be notable. Just to be sure, I searched for more inependent sources on the company to possibly add later on, and found almost nothing beyond brief mentions. NeoGaze (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't think there's SIGCOV of the company, but I found several sources about the product: [4], [5], [6], [7]. I'm not entirely sure how to resolve that. Anerdw (talk) 17:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- The Great and Powerful Trixie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not enough in-depth coverage and no scholarly discussions of this character. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 11:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and Redirect to List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters; refs appear to be passing mentions largely acknowledging the character exists or outright fan sites, and there are a couple of limp listicles on GNews. Would say this one falls clearly short of GNG it's not without some limited validity as a redirect to the character article. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect to List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters per BoomboxTestarossa. Searches using both the "Great and Powerful Trixie" and "Trixie Lulamoon" names are turning up nothing but trivial mentions in reliable sources, meaning the character fails the WP:GNG. But, as she is already included in the character list for the series, a Redirect would be an appropriate WP:ATD, and any missing information can be merged over to her entry there. Rorshacma (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thrasher (G.I. Joe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No demonstrated notability; only mentioned in (mostly primary) GIJ materials, plus a mention in an unrelated novel. Should be redirected to G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters. This can be broken out into an article again if the section is expanded with third-party sources sufficient to show independent notability. BD2412 T 20:36, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Procedural Keep per various arguments made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) (which no one wanted to copy to all of the simultaneous 52 AFDs of the same topic area). BOZ (talk) 23:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as two different Merge target articles were suggested.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Right, let's do this proper. Action Force kid, though I did enjoy the Devil's Due America's Elite stuff, so I have a passable working knowledge of G. I. Joe. My recollection is that with perhaps one or two exceptions, the fellows packed with the vehicles didn't get much attention as it was the vehicles that sold them. Thrasher sadly seems to be one of these cases.
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_G_I_Joe_Roster/wvYYEQAAQBAJ? - if admissible (and this would be a good venue to hash this out so we can bundle nominate any others; I don't see any problem with it as a non-licenced and therefore non-primary book published professionally) only has passing mentions.
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Ultimate_Guide_to_G_I_Joe_1982_1994/_BNjDwAAQBAJ? - with the same caveat; fragment of behind-the-scenes info which would make a nice footnote, but nothing in depth.
- https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Complete_Encyclopedia_to_GI_Joe/rsDmjZyu5zwC? - only passing mentions.
- https://www.cbr.com/tragic-gi-joe-villains/ - this is what I'd call a 'third source', as in if we had two good ones I'd count it, but in isolation it's pretty weak.
- That is kind of it. Given the character's obscurity even within the franchise - I doubt he'd break into most Joe fans' top 5 Dreadnoks, I doubt print material will bring up more than passing mentions. I would say Merge with List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 10:05, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Procedural keepfor all those nominations. While it is likely that some or many of the nominated G.I. Joe characters warrant merging, it is hard to believe that the required WP:BEFORE has actually been done for all of them. It's impossible to have been done properly in the mere minute(s) between the posting of the nomination. Anonrfjwhuikdzz has already summed up very well at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falcon (G.I. Joe) why things should not be done like this, and I hope this will be reflected in the close. The way it has been done, these nomations are wasting editor's time. A merge discussion on the character's talk page would be a more suitable avenue to address concerns. Daranios (talk) 10:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC)- @Daranios I actually think having this one relisted to centralise discussion, allow time to properly check sources and possibly serve as a template for the ones that do need merging might be helpful.
- Comment: @BD2412 @Liz confusingly, while List of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero characters is named like a franchise catch-all page, it actually seems to only list the members of the G.I. Joe Team; List of Cobra characters covers the baddies, of which Thrasher was/is one. Therefore the latter makes a better merge target (though honestly both lists should be merged into a single franchise one as I can think of at least three characters who've changed sides, but that's a discussion for elsewhere). BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 10:14, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @BoomboxTestarossa: Fair enough from my side, one should be manageable. Just pinging the other procedural keep !voters/commentators to let them know this one should be treated differently @BOZ, Rtkat3, Iljhgtn, Anonrfjwhuikdzz, and Oaktree b:. Daranios (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Cobra characters in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. The Ultimate Guide to G.I. Joe 1982-1994, The Ultimate Guide to G.I. Joe 1982-1994: Identification and Price Guide and The G.I. Joe Roster, p. 245 would provide the minimum coverage with regard to notability, but they more or less only have plot summary (although I cannot see p. 246). The CBR article has some commentary, but should not be used for notability. So overall, I think a section in a list is best. Daranios (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- L'Atelier Animation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies. The article lacks significant independent coverage from reliable sources that establish notability Hka-34 Jyli (talk) 08:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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- delete. fails WP:SIRS fifteen thousand two hundred twenty nine (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete not meet WP:GNG--Kopnakolicti (talk) 07:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – I added films that L'Atelier Animation helped make. It has been profiled in reliable sources including Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, Animation Magazine and Cartoon Brew. Kansas Reimer (talk) 02:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Cinesite. I can see a lot of very niche trade references about the company ... though I can't see the Variety or Hollywood Reporter profiles (can you link them User:Kansas Reimer?). There's enough out there that delete would be overkill. But I'd need to be convinced that it couldn't be included in the website for the company, rather than this division. Nfitz (talk) 22:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Cinesite as not independently notable but relevant to that article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relistng. No consensus here yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- My Little Pony: Twilight Sparkle, Teacher for a Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable app; no secondary coverage whatsoever ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:18, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: There are already reviews from Kirkus, Common Sense Media, and Wired in the article. I also found mentions in Kotaku and 148Apps. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I think it toes the line of passing and not passing GNG, but there is a clear merge target. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. MidnightMayhem 14:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The reviews in Wired, CSM and Kirkus Reviews are enough for GNG. The article needs better sourcing and probably could do with some expansion but AfD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Pamzeis (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree with Pamzeis that the Wired, Common Sense Media, and Kirkus Reviews reviews already on the article appear to meet GNG. 148Apps is noted as a situational source on WP:VG/RS, but the review linked by Vacant0 is also fairly in-depth. Waxworker (talk) 14:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Pamzeis and Waxworker above. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 06:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, arguments are divided between Merge and Keep, not headed towards a Deletion.
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- Keep, the sources are enough to pass GNG (though the article could definitely be improved).
- I originally supported merging to the MLP article, but I changed my mind, since the MLP article only has a very general overview of other media in the "Other Media" section. Weak support for a stand-alone article. ApexParagon (talk) 01:02, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as before. Demonstrates little notability outside of reviews, so a fairly short and general overview at the proposed target article is sufficient. MimirIsSmart (talk) 14:01, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- List of Flashpoint (comics) characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A list of characters for a specific comic book story arc. This is not separately notable as a concept, as the characters of Flashpoint have received little coverage individually of their mainline counterparts. A search yielded nothing. All major plot relevant characters are covered in the plot section of Flashpoint, so I would support a Redirect here as an AtD. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: A reasonable WP:SPLIT. Remember that WP:NLIST indicates that list can be kept for navigational reasons; adding sources and removing material/spitting the page is necessary, though, which are cleanup issues. -Mushy Yank. 09:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per the claims that were made by @Mushy Yank:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOR, a core content policy. There isn't a single non-primary source here, nor does there seem to be any discussion in sources of this grouping per WP:NLIST. This is merely the broader characters that appear in some story arc, many of which have articles due to independent notability, but not because they're in this specific arc, and so Mushy Yank's claim that this is a valid navigational list is just flat wrong. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you but precisely because most characters have a page, a list is even more helpful in terms of navigation. WP:NLIST clearly states that although "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists" "There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists, although non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations are touched upon in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a directory. Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability." (emphasis mine; but maybe that too is "flat wrong"_. Also in terms of size, put back all this content in the article would make navigation extremely uneasy and a split is necessary. (But you have sources you can add if you wish, addressing the topic as a set: https://www.cbr.com/dc-flashpoint-heroes-ranked/ ; https://comicvine.gamespot.com/flashpoint-universe/4015-56524/characters/ ; https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/30/flashpoint-all-the-major-heroes-and-villains-in-the-epic-dc-flash-story https://comicsalliance.com/flashpoint-dc-comics/ and so on and they are also covered "in this specific arc" in The DC Comics Universe: Critical Essays. (2022). McFarland Publishing, pp. 118, 120 for example). -Mushy Yank. 00:30, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- I almost forgot. You now have sources you can add but your reference to WP:OR was absolutely not relevant anyway because regarding content of fiction, the fiction itself is the source (a guideline); see the essay Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary for further information: "For especially large or complex fictional works, certain elements may be split off into additional articles per WP:SS. Such related articles should be clearly cross-linked so that readers can understand the full context and impact of the work. Such an article may have what amounts to a different kind of plot summary. For instance, an article on Hamlet the character as opposed to Hamlet the play would just summarize Prince Hamlet's individual plot arc through the play. You might begin the section with something like, "The play charts Hamlet's tragic downfall as he pursues revenge against his uncle Claudius", and then summarize the events that contribute to that tragic downfall, using all the same guidelines you would in general." That is precisely the case of this list, from a split of the main page. -Mushy Yank. 00:39, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- All of these bar the Valnet source (Which doesn't contribute to notability) are all either just character listings or plot summaries. While verifiable, being verifiable does not make a subject notable. Additionally, the article still fails Wikipedia:PLOT, as this would be all plot summary without any form of notability tied to it. Per MOS:CHARACTERS: "do not include every peripheral character, or every detail about a major character; this is not an indiscriminate collection of information." This list clearly fails this criteria, and if the main Flashpoint article needs a small section, so be it. But a whole list is not necessary for a subject of Flashpoint's size and the relative non-notability of this particular subset of characters. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- This list serves no recognized navigational purpose, and it is OR. While the source material can serve as a source for basic plot summaries, as noted above, that doesn't extend to vast swaths of detailed, opinionated material about dozens and dozens of characters, which is what this list is. I spot checked two of those sources; one was WP:UGC, and another had no information about the topic. If you actually want to present sources, please stick to usable ones. Regardless, it's hard to see how such an overly detailed, crufty list such as this is needed. If you want to include a main character list in the main article, then do so, but this isn't needed (or notable). 35.139.154.158 (talk) 01:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you but precisely because most characters have a page, a list is even more helpful in terms of navigation. WP:NLIST clearly states that although "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists" "There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists, although non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations are touched upon in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a directory. Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability." (emphasis mine; but maybe that too is "flat wrong"_. Also in terms of size, put back all this content in the article would make navigation extremely uneasy and a split is necessary. (But you have sources you can add if you wish, addressing the topic as a set: https://www.cbr.com/dc-flashpoint-heroes-ranked/ ; https://comicvine.gamespot.com/flashpoint-universe/4015-56524/characters/ ; https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/30/flashpoint-all-the-major-heroes-and-villains-in-the-epic-dc-flash-story https://comicsalliance.com/flashpoint-dc-comics/ and so on and they are also covered "in this specific arc" in The DC Comics Universe: Critical Essays. (2022). McFarland Publishing, pp. 118, 120 for example). -Mushy Yank. 00:30, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Despite the above keep !votes, it does not meet WP:NLIST. Orientls (talk) 15:35, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep per the claims made by @Mushy Yank An editor from Mars (talk) 06:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- What claims? How do you get around the fact that there isn't a single source in this list, and it's complete OR? Or that there's no sourcing to demonstrate this as some kind of notable grouping? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect per WP:ATD. Articles need WP:SIGCOV, and claims only go so far. In terms of navigation, links already exist at the main Flashpoint (comics) article, and we could even add them to the template. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - The list has no sources included that are not just the comics themselves, and none of the keep votes have offered a valid argument for how this passes WP:LISTN. Any notability for the Flashpoint (comics) series itself does not automatically extend to justify listing a multitude of minor characters that have no reliable sources that actually discuss them in any meaningful way. The few characters that were central to the plot of the comic are already described at the main article's plot summary. Rorshacma (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete: As a list, don't think meets WP:NLIST. And I see that many Categories exists around these characters, which is good enough for grouping. Asteramellus (talk) 19:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)