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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:31, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Caleb Garling (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This technology and music journalist seems to fail WP:GNG, the only sources I could find were all written by him, there doesn't seem to be anything about him written by a reliable secondary source. Devonian Wombat (talk) 22:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. His work has minor brief engagement in SECONDARY sources (for example [1]). He's cited or quoted in a number of book sources from academic publishers, but not to the level where I would say it is WP:SIGCOV of him or his work. Until there is something more in-depth I don't think we can support an article. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 00:36, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Wired (magazine): Not independently notable from his work at Wired. Nil🥝 01:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Nil NZ: I would oppose that. For one, he has been a prolific journalist with the San Francisco Chronicle (probably wrote more for them than Wired; and was with SFC after he left Wired) and has also contributed to The Atlantic and NPR among other outlets. I wouldn't say he is clearly associated with a single publication.4meter4 (talk) 03:12, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4: Thanks for that; you wouldn't even know that he left Wired (or wrote for SFC) from the state of this article, but I see now that there's been nothing on his author page there since 2015, and his LinkedIn says he's "Freelance". In that case I'd support a Delete. Nil🥝 03:23, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Nil NZ: I would oppose that. For one, he has been a prolific journalist with the San Francisco Chronicle (probably wrote more for them than Wired; and was with SFC after he left Wired) and has also contributed to The Atlantic and NPR among other outlets. I wouldn't say he is clearly associated with a single publication.4meter4 (talk) 03:12, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Lots of articles by him, none about him. That's the issue, a lack of sourcing. I don't see any sources we could use. Oaktree b (talk) 01:32, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Several passing mentions and interviews turn up, but nothing that I would consider significant coverage. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 19:16, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete-have to agree mostly with nom s points for AFD, lacking of enough SIGCOV sources to suggest standalone notability even with additional searches.Lorraine Crane (talk) 21:51, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:35, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- View Media Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. To satisfy WP:NCORP, a company needs in-depth coverage in multiple sources that is not entirely based on press releases, company announcements, executive interviews, or whatever else the company has to say about itself.
There are zero sources here with in-depth coverage; all of them are routine coverage and/or churnalism of fundraising, investments, acquisitions, and product launches. A WP:BEFORE search did not find better sources. As an WP:ATD, this can potentially be selectively merged to co-founder Alex Waislitz.
UPDATE: A better solution would be to create an article about Antony Catalano and redirect View Media to that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
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- @Helpful Raccoon: With so many of the sources behind paywalls its hard to assess whether your description is accurate. I'm assuming you may have access? If so, a WP:SIRS table source analysis would go a long way in proving/forwarding your argument. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here's a source assessment table for the article's current sources plus one other source I found, which is slightly better than any of the other sources. Looking more closely, the only potentially useful sources mainly cover View in the context of Catalano's broader plans, so the best outcome seems to be to create an article for Antony Catalano and merge into there.
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| ~ | ~ Coverage of a planned acquisition that was released before an official announcement. There is roughly two sentences of non-routine coverage: View Media Group is consolidating its investment in the portal – which looks a lot like Catalano’s former business Domain and rival REA’s realestate.com.au – about seven months after scoring a $50 million-odd investment from ANZ. |
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| ~ | ~ Very little coverage aside from routine investment and fundraising news and quotes from the co-founder. This piece has roughly two sentences of independent coverage: The raising for VMG is the latest development in a corporate adventure started by Catalano and his business partner, billionaire Alex Waislitz. As early as 2019, Catalano had plans to "attack" his former employer, Domain, by building a rival. |
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| ~ This is the best source I could find. Apart from the routine investment news, it has three sentences that describe plans for growth and consolidation of View Media, but it also focuses on Catalano himself. | ~ Partial | |||
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
- @Helpful Raccoon I tried to look further and found the below sources. Are they good enough ?
- https://www.afr.com/street-talk/catalano-and-waislitz-s-venture-set-to-buy-out-view-com-au-20230827-p5dzrk
- https://www.mi-3.com.au/31-05-2024/anthony-catalanos-view-media-group-appoints-former-domain-talent-leadership-reshuffle
- https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7866793/acm-owners-join-seven-in-100m-digital-property-venture/
- https://www.realestatebusiness.com.au/tech/24428-view-media-group-acquires-critical-piece-for-property-ecosystem
- https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/local-media-companies-inject-cash-into-catalano-s-new-real-estate-play-20220708-p5b08n.html
- https://www.startupdaily.net/topic/funding/seven-backs-real-estate-media-baron-antony-catalano-in-100-million-proptech-play/
- https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/anthony-catalanos-digital-property-dream-with-view-media-group/news-story/e69804ff9c0564ae949036832933aae1
- https://thewest.com.au/business/property/property-seekers-to-get-complete-view-of-property-market-with-antony-catalanos-new-view-portal-c-12030301
- https://www.crunchbase.com/person/alex-waislitz-7247 Gudipudi (talk) 07:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not, the best source here that I didn't already consider is the Sydney Morning Herald source, which was written before the company was even formed. We can probably have an article about Antony Catalano though, and include information about View in that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. The only other source i found was on Sydney morning Herald - https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/former-domain-execs-cash-in-property-startup-for-35-million-20221009-p5bocl.html.
- Though AFR, Canberratimes, mi-3, The australian are reputable sources, i understand they are not to your satisfaction. Feel free to delete this entry as i cant produce any more sources. Thankyou . Gudipudi (talk) 22:38, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not, the best source here that I didn't already consider is the Sydney Morning Herald source, which was written before the company was even formed. We can probably have an article about Antony Catalano though, and include information about View in that article. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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2024-06 ✗ R2←2024-06 move to → Draft:View Media Group - --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Log 9 Materials (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. As of now, the page is a WP:PROMO. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. subject is a prominent Indian business. Sources include:
Mysecretgarden (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 16:56, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Futurex (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I see nothing but press releases: not a notable outfit by our standards. Drmies (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. The only SIGCOV I could find was about a different company in Scotland with an almost identical name (FutureX).4meter4 (talk) 17:19, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I believe there is SIGCOV of this company, specifically with some of their partnerships with AWS (article here ) and Verifone (article here), and some coverage of their contributions to preparing for PQC as covered by CIO Inc..
- The page just needs to go under copy revamp, adding more than just their personal press releases, such as the links I added here. Fxsbenne (talk) 14:22, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not seeing any sourcing in that group that would pass WP:ORGCRIT. AWS is a paid platform and lacks independence. The Security Info Watch piece on Verifone is based entirely on a press release and interview without any independent analysis or critique. The first CIO source is better but not sufficiently in-depth to indicate notability. The second CIO link is a generic webpage. 4meter4 (talk) 11:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also just for the record I am a a newbie to wiki editing! I do work for Futurex, and wanted to make some changes to bolster the page to make it compliant with the notability standards and to improve/update the information. Fxsbenne (talk) 19:18, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- I went through and updated the whole page, adding new sections such as their awards received and contributions to cryptography with CryptoHub and VirtuCrypt, as well as participation in reputable tech conferences RSAC and GITEX. I also added more pages their partners have created referencing Futurex's involvement with them. Fxsbenne (talk) 18:56, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Apologies for being a newbie to this process, first AfD contribution. This page has been updated by the company to include 35+ SIGCOV links from external sources. I work for the company and would very much appreciate, and like to keep this improved version as Wikipedia is commonly searched by our customers and cited by search engines and Ai tools when people are searching for our company. We have significantly revised the content to be current, tried to avoid any over-promotional language, and cited capabilities, rankings, reviews, and awards from 3rd party articles and independent analysts. Please let us know if there are any corrections or revisions needed in order to be able to keep the page. MKrutikov (talk) 19:10, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Delete Primarily relies on and unreliable sources and lacks significant coverage from independent publications. The awards mentioned appear to be non-notable or promotional awards. Ninjastic Ninja (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete the sources added by @Fxsbenne are short mentions, press releases, press-driven coverage, links to standards, duplicates or near-duplicates, etc. This appears to be reference bombing with cites that don't count towards notability. If there is sufficient doubt to relist then I would encourage FXsbenne to give their WP:THREE top three cites that meet SIRS. Oblivy (talk) 01:42, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:09, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- List of semiconductor industry occupations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not clear why we would start lists of occupations per industry, or why we wouldn't then list the 274 (!) occupations from the one source[3]. Most of these occupations would be found in many other manufacturing environments, there doesn't seem to be value in repeating nearly similar lists of jobs across many such pages. Fram (talk) 12:46, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete pernom, not clear why this list is needed. Mag2k (talk) 12:47, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, and do the same with List of petroleum industry occupations. I suppose semiconductor industry or Semiconductor device fabrication could mention some occupations but there's no reason for a standalone article, particularly one that's merely bullet points with no context and so poorly sourced. Reywas92Talk 14:27, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Helping people find opertunity and work is one of the most noble goals of education, and I view Wikipedia as an education source. Wikideas1 (talk) 15:31, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete this list as navigationally unnecessary, and otherwise uninformative. But don't set a precedent and apply this willy-nilly to other lists. For example, List of film and television occupations is heading in the right direction, potentially filling a genuine need (not everyone knows the difference between the producer and director), and aligning with plenty of possible sources describing roles in film as a set. For me, the dividing line of usefulness is when the list of roles starts to be more specific to the industry. Elemimele (talk) 17:33, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, List of film and television occupations could (perhaps should?) be retitled Glossary of film and television occupations, as it explains sector-specific roles. Fram (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah maybe it would be better to make a Category:Semiconductor occupations and just link the main ones to that. Wikideas1 (talk) 20:11, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Iljhgtn (talk) 05:13, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:30, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Cipher Sports Technology Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not appear to meet WP:NORG. There is one article from the Australian Financial Review, but other sources are from press release aggregators. I have not been able to locate other substantial coverage. Creator blocked for sockpuppetry and possible UPE. Triptothecottage (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
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Keep - Despite the murky circumstances around which this article was created, in addition the AFR article, there is also a Forbes article which seems to demonstrate significant coverage, and it also seems to use this gambling insider article as a source, (an outlet that has done other coverage of the company), so I think it just edges GNG.Delete per nom.WikiMacaroonsCinnamon? 23:35, 27 October 2025 (UTC)- @WikiMacaroons: the Forbes article is by a "Senior Contributor", which per WP:FORBESCON should be treated as a self-published source and hence unreliable. The Gambling Insider article is a basic rewrite of this press release, and cannot be considered independent coverage. Triptothecottage (talk) 01:42, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Triptothecottage:, quite right, I misread the bio of the contributor as a suggestion that he was somehow an expert in the field, and therefore was ok under FORBESCON. Let that be a lesson to me not to !vote in AfD late at night :) I've adjusted my !vote accordingly. WikiMacaroonsCinnamon? 12:01, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiMacaroons: the Forbes article is by a "Senior Contributor", which per WP:FORBESCON should be treated as a self-published source and hence unreliable. The Gambling Insider article is a basic rewrite of this press release, and cannot be considered independent coverage. Triptothecottage (talk) 01:42, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Darren Bailey#Personal life. This should have been closed as speedy keep under criterion 1 (no arguments made in favour of deletion). The D in AFD has not been changed to "discussion" like most other AFDs, and a proposal to merge where deletion is not under consideration should be made on the article talk page rather than here. Stifle (talk) 09:02, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
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This accident seems to only have coverage due to the people who were on the helicopter. I am convinced at this time that the article will be a WP:PERMASTUB. The available sources discuss the family more than the accident itself. I think a merge to Darren Bailey#Personal life would suffice for this accident. 11WB (talk) 21:52, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. In addition to what was outlined, I also have WP:LASTING and WP:DEPTH concerns in regards to the accident's long term relevance, and how the sources in the article more-so discuss the family involved than the actual crash. A few days ago I believed this article was a pretty standard new page review, but as pointed out by @11wallisb and Hekatlys: the article turned out to be filled with hallucinated sources, an issue I hadn't encountered before. After these sources were weeded out by @Ritchie333: (thank you!) only two truly legitimate sources remained. As already mentioned, these two sources don't necessarily demonstrate the topics long term relevance and will likely remain a WP:PERMASTUB which could just as easily be merged in to a larger article. For these reasons I believe merging is the best option. Cheers! Johnson524 23:02, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom, if the governor himself died I'd keep but this is just his family. I don't see any lasting effects of this or any other major mentions of this since. (edit conflict) Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:51, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Here some sources talking about how Montana has a lot of small plane crashes and this is another one of them and here is another talking about the helicopter being involved in a previous bird strike accident.
Zaptain United (talk) 23:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- There are sources talking about the crash besides the family dying in it Zaptain United (talk) 23:17, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- The more sources there are discussing the accident, the stronger the case for keeping the article. KTVQ is a local source, so is probably reliable. Montana Free Press as an investigative journalism source, I wouldn't question it personally. The MFP source is far stronger than the source from KTVQ, which seems to be lacking in substance. Regardless, both should be added. 11WB (talk) 01:57, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. This is a run-of-the-mill light helicopter crash: WP:EVENTCRIT #4 applies. There is nothing noteworthy about it other than the deaths of the non-notable family of a notable person. There is no likelihood of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond the initial news cycle, no likelihood of WP:LASTING effects. WP:USUAL applies: the article can always be recreated in the unlikely event that sufficient sustained coverage does occur or if lasting effects emerge later. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:24, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Darren Bailey#Personal life per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 23:01, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:16, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rajah Soliman Science and Technology High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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i believe this article is not notable. the most notable about this article is it is the "other" science high school beside Manila Science High School(it is first of country, that article is ok, but not this one). ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 22:49, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
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- I understand your point, but notability on Wikipedia is not determined by comparison to another topic (for example, Manila Science High School). Each subject is evaluated on its own independent merits per the WP:GNG.
- Rajah Soliman Science and Technology High School is a government-established national science high school, formally recognized under Republic Act No. 8843. That demonstrates clear encyclopedic and institutional significance, even if the article currently lacks extensive independent coverage.
- The problem here is under-sourcing, not non-notability. The topic is real, verifiable, and educational in nature — it simply needs more references. Per WP:DRAFTIFY and WP:ATD, moving this to '''Draft space''' for improvement would be a more constructive outcome than deletion. Additional reliable sources (e.g., from DepEd or local news) can likely be added with further research. Acrom12 (talk) 09:15, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Keep. The subject is a legitimate and verifiable public science high school in Manila, established and recognized by Republic Act No. 8843, which is a national law. As a government-founded science high school, the topic is inherently encyclopedic and comparable to other public secondary institutions with similar designations. While the article currently lacks sufficient independent secondary coverage to clearly satisfy WP:GNG, the presence of official legislation and verifiable existence under the Department of Education make this a real, notable topic in scope for Wikipedia. The issue is under-sourcing, not non-notability. Per WP:DRAFTIFY and alternatives to deletion, moving this to Draft space for improvement would be more constructive than deletion. Reliable local or educational sources could likely be added with further research. Deletion would erase potentially valid encyclopedic content on an existing institution.Acrom12 (talk) 09:11, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to San Nicolas, Manila. It fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Being established via legislation, which is virtually true for all public schools in the Philippines, arent a reason to keep an article. A private school of the same scale and sourcing would be easily deleted.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:39, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus here yet. We have four different outcomes proposed and have to narrow down that number.
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- Weak delete - While the subject is a legitimate educational institution, the article in its current form fails to demonstrate notability under Wikipedia’s school notability guideline (WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES). The sources cited are either primary, routine, or insufficiently independent. Herinalian (talk) 20:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to San Nicolas, Manila per WP:ATD --Lenticel (talk) 00:38, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:ORG/WP:GNG. Not mentioned in San Nicolas, Manila so a redirect isn't possible.4meter4 (talk) 00:58, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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Pure WP:DICDEF without evidence that it passes WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:59, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Absoulte WP:DICDEF with barely any information at all; unsourced for 20 years. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 20:58, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: very much a DICDEF. Not much of anything found beyond uses of term. Oaktree b (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Cant even justify a redirect. ←Metallurgist (talk) 02:03, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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No longer even a Telefonica subsidiary following its acquisition this year by Telecom Argentina, this company fails WP:GNG (even the Spanish article is undersourced) and NCORP. Was a redirect to Telefonica#Argentina, should now be a redirect to Telecom Argentina, failing which Deletion is the solution. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:38, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Oppose I agree that the article is unsourced, but Telefónica de Argentina was pivotal to Menem's government privatizations of state-owned companies in the early 1990s in Argentina, when the Argentine government's shareholding of defunct ENTEL was sold to the Spanish company Telefónica.--Darius (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose It's true the article lacked sources, but that problem has been resolved. Not to mention that Telefónica was a major player in telecommunications in Argentina, I don't see the point in removing it.--Sir Banking (talk) 21:36, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Deal hasn't been completed so the company still exists as-is, thus the nom's argument of the company's disestablishment is null and void at this time. Nathannah • 📮 17:11, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – Per sources added by Sir Banking. Svartner (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:05, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Does not appear to be a notable company based on cited sources. Almost all sources are routine business announcements, obvious churnalism, or are tied to the company. The one possibly admissible source is this one: [4], but I know nothing about this website. A web search also found this piece: [5], which also looks like churnalism, and nothing else but routine announcements. Fails WP:NCORP. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: per NCORP. x2step (lets talk 💌) 07:32, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete- after some spot checks most are indeed passing mentions or not SIGCOV. A few are behind paywalls like the ones from Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg. So unsure about those.Lorraine Crane (talk) 10:19, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NCORP also just not strong sources. Agnieszka653 (talk) 01:38, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to CNET Video. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 16:35, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Subject does not pass WP:N. The existing sources are all primary or blogs. I'm not finding any reliable sources in a BEFORE. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:31, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete- after some spot checks on the citations have to agree with nom s observations so far. Additional searches did not help add notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 12:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to CNET Video which is where podcasts are listed, including Buzz out Loud. Given the brevity of the descriptions there it does not appear that there is an opportunity to merge. (Note: this is the only podcast to have its own article.) Lamona (talk) 15:11, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
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This article on a company's video streaming software was created in 2012 (and rejected as a draft several times for various issues along the way). A dozen years later, it seems like most of the issues are still present. The page is essentially an advertisement for the product, with 90% of it being a list of supported protocols and a changelog. The sources listed do not provide in-depth coverage of Unreal Media Server, and do not support an argument for the subject's notability.
A WP:BEFORE brought up installation/developer guides, a listing on AWS Marketplace, and unrelated news about Unreal Engine, but no good sources on the topic. I believe this page fails general and web notability guidelines. Iiii I I I (talk) 04:59, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete no news sources could be found in my search .Darkm777 (talk)
- comment Is this related to Unreal Engine? ←Metallurgist (talk) 03:00, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Unreal Engine is an unrelated product by a different company (Epic Games). Iiii I I I (talk) 07:06, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: There is no substantial coverage of this product to make it meet notability standards. If the TechTV review cited still existed, it would be the only source contributing to WP:GNG; the other references from streamingmedia.com are passing mentions (two paragraphs in a list of companies, a quote from an engineer that works for Unreal that's unrelated to the company). I could not find any other sources that discuss the company aside from brief mention in a list of media servers (Australian PC User 2011). -- Reconrabbit 19:54, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:25, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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BLP on a young entrepreneur with no particular indication of notability. Sources are all passing mentions or promotional in nature. JTtheOG (talk) 18:34, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - as I have said before, we are not LinkedIn. Bearian (talk) 00:43, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per Bearian. Z E T A3 19:29, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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The result was draftify. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
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This company doesn't seem to pass WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. 11WB (talk) 04:35, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify – The article currently lacks sufficient in-depth, independent coverage to meet WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. While Variety and IndieWire are reliable, their brief mentions focus on associated film releases rather than the company itself. As KINO Tech is a recent startup (2022), moving this to Draft space would allow time for further significant coverage to develop. SanneMonte (talk) 08:00, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- As it fails NCORP, it should really be deleted, however draftify is acceptable. 11WB (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 00:11, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, sources are mostly routine fundraising news and product announcements, plus a few non-independent sources that entirely rely on interviews/statements from the company or its clients ([6], [7]). Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Also, techtimes.com is generally unreliable. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:40, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:REFBOMBING fails to produce sources that are neither promotional nor routine. Somepinkdude (talk) 00:10, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - there are several articles that establish notability as they are indepth including Venturebeat, techzine.eu, and others.Darkm777 (talk) 01:38, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Techzine article is routine coverage of a product announcement, and the VentureBeat article is routine fundraising coverage plus some non-independent coverage that just repeats what the company's executives said in an interview. Independent and non-routine coverage is required, coverage that doesn't rely on company announcements, press releases, or executive interviews. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call Venture Beat routine. It is a major tech publication that did a write up on them. Darkm777 (talk) 01:32, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Techzine article is routine coverage of a product announcement, and the VentureBeat article is routine fundraising coverage plus some non-independent coverage that just repeats what the company's executives said in an interview. Independent and non-routine coverage is required, coverage that doesn't rely on company announcements, press releases, or executive interviews. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete the sources are mainly of routuine nature but there is still a chance some better sources might exist. Schtiapht (talk) 08:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Coverage in multiple highly-reliable sources (TechCrunch, VentureBeat, Reuters/Bloomberg) does establish borderline notability in my opinion. Silvymaro (talk) 10:24, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment TechCrunch and VentureBeat are not considered highly reliable in by many editors. See WP:RSPS. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 00:37, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete I found some decent coverage from Rueters: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/cast-ai-secures-108-million-funding-expand-cloud-automation-2025-04-30/ but I think this may be a case of WP:TOOSOON Agnieszka653 (talk) 16:55, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- I found two more reliable, credible (in their field) independent pieces of coverage: One, Two. Both outlets are cited on Wikipedia. My impression here is reminiscence of a witch hunt. This product / company is way above the notability threshold in their own field, and just because the field is so narrow, it was too easy to go trigger happy nominating everything for purge left and right even after the article passed AfC (I checked). This is disappointing. Silvymaro (talk) 17:56, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – The sources already cited in the article are sufficient to establish notability, and with a quick look online I also found a couple more independent pieces (https://cloudnativenow.com/features/cast-ai-analysis-surfaces-massive-kubernetes-infrastructure-waste/ https://www.ciodive.com/news/kubernetes-overspend-compounds-cloud-cost-woes-cast-ai/741680/), and I think there are more. Instead of deleting, we should consider how to improve the article. NenadWeber (talk) 16:01, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Source 1 is fine, the rest are all about raising $108 million in funding. I can only pull up news about the funding or PR items... I don't see much more than the first Venture Beat source that talks about the company. Oaktree b (talk) 19:46, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Everything right after the founding date is WP:PROMO copy sourced by...even more promo copy disguised as sources. We're not witch-hunting at all Silvymaro, we're just tired of articles masquerading as full-blown advertisements like this one, especially in the AI/LLM space (which has been the worst so far this year regarding PROMO content). Nathannah • 📮 20:20, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete We don't need to pretend that routine coverage is significant or that promo is independent coverage. This page needs to be binned. Niafied (talk) 23:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Does not seem to establish notability based on the sources. Another fly by night AI outfit trying to selfpromote? The raccoon is indeed helpful. ←Metallurgist (talk) 00:31, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete After looking through sources, too many are leaning toward churnalism with a promotional tone for AI/ML tools and overall I do not think this meets the higher bar needed for WP:NCORP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk • contribs) 00:52, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete this AI shop failing WP:NCORP. Iljhgtn (talk) 04:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Going through the sources: source 1 is a press release, source 2 is an obvious promo piece (just look at the author's other pieces), source 3 is a directory entry, source 4 and source 5/9 are routine coverage, source 6 leads to an error page and would be routine coverage anyways, source 7 is a press release, source 8 is another PR piece, source 10 is a "contributor" piece, not staff-written, and source 11 is the company itself. No better sources found in a WP:BEFORE search. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Among the sources, in my opinion, The Pioneer (India) and FPJ are not PR. Favorable description is not always advertising. Source 6 opens perfectly via the archive link. So, the company occupies a fairly prominent position in the region and receives just enough media coverage. OmicronLib (talk) 14:04, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- It is very common for Indian media sources to launder PR as legitimate news coverage, see WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The FPJ source states at the bottom
Disclaimer: This is a syndicated feed. The article is not edited by the FPJ editorial team.
It is not a staff-published article. In addition, the Pioneer source does not have a byline, suggesting that it is PR. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 14:54, 22 October 2025 (UTC)- I found the article has existed for several years in other language sections of WP. There are many sources there. I checked some of them with machine translation and they look good.
- [8][9][10] OmicronLib (talk) 18:26, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, it doesn't matter whether the same article exists in other languages; the English Wikipedia tends to have stricter standards than other languages. I didn't see any clearly independent, non-routine sources in a spotcheck of those articles. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think the relevant thing to 'see' is Wikipedia talk:Verifiability/FAQ, which says:
- Are reliable sources required to name the author?
- No. Many reliable sources, such as government and corporate websites, do not name their authors or say only that it was written by staff writers. Although many high-quality sources do name the author, this is not a requirement.
- Bylines are not required, and if you've looked through an ordinary daily newspaper (on paper) and noticed how few of the articles have bylines (especially short ones), you might not think they are good indicators of PR. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:05, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- It is very common for Indian media sources to launder PR as legitimate news coverage, see WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The FPJ source states at the bottom
- Keep also per Omnicron. 147.161.236.94 (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. per at least these two sources: [11] [12]. These sites are used hundreds of times in Wikipedia. Brosticate (talk) 09:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- The technode source doesn't satisfy WP:ORGIND since it almost entirely relies on what the company has to say about itself: it mainly talks about the company's ambitions and future plans, as well as quotes from the founder.
Seat61 is an unreliable self-published blog. - It does not matter how many times editors have added a source to Wikipedia, that does not mean that the source is reliable. There are thousands of citations to Google searches in Wikipedia articles, even though Google is clearly not a reliable source. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Correction: Seat61 is a well-respected blog, but it is still only a single source. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:10, 24 October 2025 (UTC)- Wait a minute, Seat61 is not an independent source since it has an affiliate commission scheme with 12go. We're back to having zero sources that count towards WP:NCORP. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- The technode source doesn't satisfy WP:ORGIND since it almost entirely relies on what the company has to say about itself: it mainly talks about the company's ambitions and future plans, as well as quotes from the founder.
- Keep there are enough sources to establish notability.Darkm777 (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as per all of the above; you can add a tag to the article if you'd like, but it seems to be an important enough company that we could fix the article instead of deleting it. Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 12:45, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - The relevant SNG is WP:NCORP and so we need multiple sources that meet WP:SIRS with WP:CORPDEPTH. That is to say we need multiple independent reliable secondary sources that provide
deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization.
The existence of pages on other Wiki projects will certainly not do. We have a source analysis above of all the other sources, and this analysis is correct. We need to bear WP:NEWSORGINDIA in mind. We do not have a single source that meets WP:SIRS, and votes that merely state that sources exist without showing why these meet WP:SIRS should be WP:DISCARDed. For those who no doubt wish to disagree with me, what sources do you think meet WP:SIRS? If there are none, this page should be deleted (again). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:15, 25 October 2025 (UTC) - Keep - TTG Asia focused on the company i.e., non-trivial reporting - so not what we typically consider under WP:ROUTINE.
I also found additional En-language coverage:
Skift https://skift.com/2022/10/05/airasia-superapp-boosts-ground-transport-options-with-bookaway-deal/
e27 https://e27.co/this-startup-lets-you-buy-bus-tickets-from-your-laptop-20140620/
and non-En editorial sources to add:
PassportNews https://passportnews.co.il/article/184890
TourMaG https://www.tourmag.com/CheckMyBus-integre-des-itineraires-d-autocar-en-Thailande-et-en-Asie-du-Sud-Est_a84375.htmlPer WP:BIAS, WP:CSB and WP:NONENG, Indian sources shouldn’t be discounted merely for their origin - especially for a company operating in India, with remaining standards WP:RS and WP:INDEPENDENT.
As for TechNode: I see no inherent problem with that outlet—this is precisely what journalism does, verify and synthesize primary materials and when it does so the result is a WP:SECONDARY source. LvivLark (talk) 19:06, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't filled in everything here, but it is clear these 4 new sources do not add anything that meets WP:SIRS. Have a read of WP:ORGDEPTH in particular to see what is required for companies. PR about the startup and company announcements will not do.
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Secondary? | Overall value toward ORGCRIT |
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12Go offers instant seat confirmation with the 4,000 operators, covering 50,000 routes across 26 countries in Asia.which is well short of ORGDEPTH |
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Ron Hoffman'The VP of Product of the tourism giant Agoda, is moving to the Travelier Group and will serve as the Group's VP of Product (CPO) and CEO of its subsidiary 12GO.Not ORGDEPTH, that is a passing mention. |
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It has, in fact, just signed a partnership with the Thai OTA 12Go Asia, which has been offering cheap travel to Southeast Asia for 3 years and has customer service in 9 languages.- that is well short of ORGDEPTH |
Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:28, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The four new sources don't support notability and neither do the sources in the article. Agree with Helpful Racoon's evaluation of the existing sources and the table. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and "the company seems important" aren't convincing arguments to keep. Countglob (talk) 05:21, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The TTG articles are a pretty clear example of WP:CORPROUTINE as standard announcements, launch and partnership, the second blatantly based off a press kit given the reuse of quotes in other sources churning the same press kit. ROUTINE, which, additionally has nothing to do with
focused on the company
. I could find no better in the 173 results from ProQuest for 2008–2025. Given that the keep !voters have declined to explain why they have made the assertions they have, I can only conclude either a lack of clue on the relevant guidelines or a deliberate attempt at obfuscation. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:55, 27 October 2025 (UTC)- Also, I'm a little mystified why one of the keep !voters bought up
operating in India
specifically when the company is headquartered in Singapore and primarily operates in Thailand. Yes, it also does so in other APAC countries, but India doesn't seem to be a major focus for them. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I'm a little mystified why one of the keep !voters bought up
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- Delete – The company fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Most cited sources are press releases, affiliate blogs, or trade mentions that do not show WP:ORGDEPTH or WP:SIRS... Publications like The Pioneer, Free Press Journal, CalBiz Journal, and Markets Insider are either syndicated PR or contain promotional content written from company material. TTG Asia and TechNode provide only brief, routine reporting rather than independent analysis..... Non-English sources listed in other language Wikipedias also give no significant coverage when translated. LexyNight (talk) 21:29, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- LegalOn Technologies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This technology company nowhere to meet WP:ORGCRITE. Fails Notability guidelines of a company. Filmyy (talk) 10:23, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Technology, Software, and Japan. Filmyy (talk) 10:23, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment (COI): I’m affiliated with the subject but not paid to edit. Offering independent sources showing significant coverage:
- • Financial Times feature (six companies pushing legal AI; reports 7,000+ users): https://www.ft.com/content/00ea7657-9f5c-45d5-9230-b6fc638d03e4
- • The Japan Times and Bloomberg on the SoftBank Vision Fund Series D: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/06/24/business/corporate-business/softbank-legalforce/ ; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-23/softbank-vision-fund-s-4th-japan-investment-is-a-legal-tech-bet
- • TechCrunch, Forbes, Law360 Pulse on the 2025 Series E and OpenAI collaboration: https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/24/softbank-backed-legalon-fuels-ai-for-in-house-legal-team-with-50m-series-e/ ; https://www.forbes.com/sites/zinnialee/2025/07/25/japans-legal-ai-startup-scores-50-million-round-led-by-goldman-sachs-partners-with-openai/ ; https://www.law360.com/pulse/articles/2367464/legalon-secures-50m-series-e-expands-openai-partnership
- Other editors have improved neutrality and sourcing (see “edits since nomination”). Goldleafllc (talk) 05:01, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you might not understand the full meaning of "independent source". It needs to be an independent publisher, sure, but the article *content* also needs to be independent. Simply regurgitating PR and funding announcements is not "independent content". A good essay at WP:SERIESA on this too. HighKing++ 16:31, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fade258 (talk) 15:05, 17 October 2025 (UTC)- Keep: I disagree with HelpfulRaccoon's assessment of sources as routine. GNG only requires multiple examples of significant coverage and these already exist in English. However, some native language sources:
- I am also seeing many more examples of Japanese coverage on the company's news page (they link to the publishers). I did not go through all 80 pages but likely to be more; in any case, there's plenty to pass GNG. @Goldleafllc - keep in mind we can use Japanese sources on English Wikipedia. DCsansei (talk) 02:46, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- The relevant guideline is WP:NCORP, a strict version of WP:GNG. Under this guideline, coverage entirely based on company announcements, executive interviews, press releases, etc. is non-independent. A few of your sources describe an accusation of illegal conduct which cannot be used to establish notability under the guideline. Other than that, the sources you have shown here are either non-independent or not significant coverage. Also, please put replies at the bottom of the page. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 04:45, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: The only non-routine coverage is a listicle entry in the Financial Times, Most coverage is routine and/or non-independent coverage about fundraising, expansion, and product announcements. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:58, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 16:31, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Japanese sources from the comment above are quite solid, especially Nikkei and Logi Biz. NenadWeber (talk) 10:49, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Sources being "quite solid" is not one of the criteria for establishing notability. Also, did you read those sources? Why do you believe they meet NCORP criteria? The Nikkei reference is a survey of customers using legal ai technology (and not just this company's tech) with no in-depth original content about this company. The Logi Biz article regurgitates a press briefing - says it in the first sentence. Where is the original content?? HighKing++ 14:36, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep. LegalOn Technologies meets WP:GNG and WP:ORG through multiple reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. Major English-language coverage includes:
- Financial Times
- Japan Times and Bloomberg – reports on SoftBank Vision Fund investment;
- TechCrunch, Forbes, and Law360 Pulse – detailed coverage of its Series E and OpenAI collaboration.
- Hkkingg (talk) 19:40, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Noting that these are the same sources that are mentioned in Goldleafllc's comment above. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Source analysis*** None of those sources meet GNG/NCORP criteria for establishing notability. "Coverage" or mentions in well-known publications does not mean the company is notable.
- Financial Times source profiles 6 companies but relies entirely on company information and quotes and is not in-depth, fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND
- Japan Times source relies on the funding announcement, fails ORGIND
- Bloomberg source is the same - you can even read the overlap between the two sources, also fails ORGIND
- TechCrunch source, also relies on funding announcement and information from the company, no independent content, fails ORGIND
- Forbes source, same as above. Fails for the same reason
- Law360 Pulse source, same as the two above.
- None of those sources meets GNG/NCORP criteria. HighKing++ 13:37, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artificial intelligence-related deletion discussions. jolielover♥talk 06:31, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment We seem to be going round in circles. It has been pointed out that the sources do not contain sufficient in-depth "independent content" but none of the Keep !voters have engaged with that comment or pointed out why they disagree, and new !voters have merely repeated links to sources, again without elaboration. Can any of the Keep !voters kindly point to a specific paragraph in particular sources which they believe meets the criteria (that is, in-depth independent content about the topic company). HighKing++ 09:42, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment.@HighKing: While I sympathize with your frustration we have a clear protocol for just this type of scenario which is WP:SIRS. Inevitably the burden of SIRS more often falls on those arguing to delete the article. If you want to break this cycle I suggest doing a table analysis. Otherwise, the conversation is likely to close as no consensus, which would be an acceptable outcome for those wanting to keep the article. There's very little incentive for keep voters to engage further, and as a reviewer I personally don't want to go through the headache of translating Japanese sources. I'm guessing that without a SIRS analysis you aren't going to get much further participation because of the volume of materials to evaluate and the language barrier. That leaves the WP:CONSENSUS here as inconclusive. Best.4meter4 (talk) 14:46, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi 4meter4, your comment that "there is very little incentive for keep voters to engage further" presupposes any engagement at all. There is an onus on !voters to continue to engage when challenged and any challenge should be grounded in policy/guideline arguments. If there is no response to the challenge (either by the original !voter or by another), then the assumption is that the challenge was successful and the !vote should be discarded. I'll add that coming to AfD and !voting without further engagement would simply treat the AfD process as a drive-by !vote counting exercise. To date, at least here, I have challenged sources using arguments grounded in NCORP and there has been no engagement. I don't see how a table would help with the burden of translation either - my comments above are just as helpful as a table. On a separate but related note, I say that the usual "Source assess table" is often misinterpreted by editors who view the column "Independent" to mean that the test is simply that the publisher must be an independent corporation from the topic company. I created "NCORPcheck table" a while ago to explicitly highlight both ORGIND and CORPDEPTH - the two reasons which lead to most sources failing GNG/NCORP. That said, I don't think a table is necessary for all circumstances and especially when there is no engagement from those !voters who have been challenged. Liz's comment (below) is the correct approach. HighKing++ 09:31, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Making a request that editors arguing to Keep this article engage with HighKing's comment about current sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. If
2019年から本格的にサービスを提供し、約2000社と契約している業界大手「リーガルフォース」(東京)は6月7日、「事業への影響はない」との談話を発表した。同社のサービスは、審査対象の契約書と事前に用意した類型別のチェックリストをAIが比較し、必要な要素が抜けていないか瞬時に確認する仕組みだ。自身も弁護士の角田望社長(35)は「法律の専門的知識に基づいて法的見解を述べる過程はなく、回答の対象となったサービスとは前提が異なる」と説明。
(i.e.Legal Force (Tokyo), a major industry player that began providing full-scale services in 2019 and has contracts with approximately 2,000 companies, released a statement on June 7th saying that "there will be no impact on our business."The company's service uses AI to compare the contract to be reviewed with a pre-prepared checklist for each type, instantly checking whether any necessary elements are missing. President Nozomi Tsunoda (35), himself a lawyer, explained, "There is no process of providing a legal opinion based on specialized legal knowledge, and the premise is different from that of the service that responded to the request."
From Yomiuri, DCsansei ref 1)is considered significant coverage, that whichaddresses the topic directly and in detail
(a requirement in both the corp specific and general notability guidelines) then I will eat my hat. Don't have one right now, but I will find one. And eat it. Nikkei I admitedly was not able to rustle up a subscription for, Asahi arguably is worse, pretty much just the announcements, EnterpriseZine is just quotes, Logi-biz is the most CORPROUTINE ever "raises 71.4 billion yen" "strengthens cooperation" announcement, and Kabutan (via Yahoo) is about the same as 1 (except the paragraph appears to be more about the concept in general). I decline to provide my own writeup for the english language sources, but instead more or less endorse the one provided by HighKing. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:32, 3 November 2025 (UTC)