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2025 Minehead school coach crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ground propulsion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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When I search the results are mostly about pushing aircraft not the definition in the article Chidgk1 (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

APCOA Parking (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another entry in the saga of UPE content is this German parking management company. The article seems to present only primary sources and routine coverage, and I am unsure if notability can be established to comply with WP:NCORP. MediaKyle (talk) 14:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People's Express (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable and very small English independent bus operator which serves as more of a footnote in the history of parent Probus Management. Single paragraph in the 'history' section refers to People's Express, the rest, besides a change of trading name, refers to Probus and its subsequent acquisition by Go-Ahead/Diamond. Hullian111 (talk) 09:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

M-157 (Michigan highway) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Arguments were made in this discussion that this article subject is not notable because all sourcing are maps or similar. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If it lacks independent sigcov then there is something wrong with it. We don't actually generally keep articles about state highways, at least not in the last few years. They aren't presumed notable and there really isn't any information in there that would be missed. In terms of whats wrong with it... It also runs afoul of WP:NOT, specifically 2.6 and 2.10 Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It could be merged into List of state trunkline highways in Michigan Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 17:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You'll have to be more specific with those WP:NOTs... SportingFlyer T·C 18:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They don't appear to apply to you? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also it's a completely factual, decently referenced little stub. It's just not referenced well enough for notability reasons. The important thing here is not to lose some of the important content, including year it was opened and designated, and the brief history. If there's no good merge target that lets us retain that information, then there's no real problem with keeping it as it is. SportingFlyer T·C 19:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is not decently referenced, that would be the main problem. That isn't important content, its not even clear that it would be due for inclusion on another page... Nothing indicates that the dates and history should be on wikipedia beyond what is already at List of state trunkline highways in Michigan... And the history can't be merged because its OR, we'd actually need a source for that. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/Merge, the lack of independent sigcov besides the passing mention in the compilation of short roads article means that we don't have any policy grounds besides IAR to keep this article and IAR only applies to improvements of the encyclopedia and the encyclopedia would be improved by deleting or merging this article. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of state trunkline highways in Michigan. Ref. 6 looks fine, but the others are primary and trivial, and for such a short rural road I doubt better sourcing can be found. But should appear somewhere on WP. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:06, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. WP:5P1 says: ikipedia combines many features of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers (emphasis added). Lists of major state highways are part of gazetteers. As long as WP:V is satisfied, then major state highways have traditionally been kept. The continual tightening of "but notability" is a problem. The encyclopedia would most certainly not be improved by deleting or merging this article - this is not about the 9001th species of Pokemon. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:26, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger: this is not a deletion discussion for a list of state highways or a major state highway. This is a discussion about a single minor state highway. Can you make an argument that fits this context? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/redirect to List of state trunkline highways in Michigan. Combining features of gazetteers does not mean notability and significant coverage is thrown in the trash for concepts that may be part of gazetteers. Our lists can also include the features of gazetteers. I do not believe there is enough coverage of this topic for there to be a standalone article. Reywas92Talk 15:32, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of state trunkline highways in Michigan: It does seem (and I admittedly say this reluctantly) that this is yet another instance where a topic area's longtime/prior inclusion standards (and, more specifically, its stances on the type of sourcing that confers standalone notability) appears to be out of alignment with Wikipedia's sitewide standards. (Concerns about these notability and sourcing issues led a number of editors in this topic area to fork a few years back, providing an alternative outlet for any articles in the topic area that might not make the cut here anymore.) I'm not sure there's anything within that list's scope that isn't already there to be merged in, but that obviously does not preclude redirecting as an alternative to deletion. (As for the prior assertion that we generally keep articles about state highways, a non-exhaustive look at the delsort archives for transportation indicates that they have not come to AfD that often in the first place, and the most recent US one, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ohio State Route 778, was a "merge" to a list that quickly turned into a simple BLAR because there wasn't really anything to merge; as has already been suggested, I also can't imagine that a one-mile short trunkline highway falls under any major state highway definition.) WCQuidditch 08:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem with the merge is that we'd lose information based on that other page - we used to have lists of state highways that weren't just functional spreadsheets which went into more detail for routes which weren't notable enough for their own pages. What happened to those? SportingFlyer T·C 09:19, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But why is that a problem? Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, just because information exists doesn't mean that its due for inclusion. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: In my searches for sources, I found only one source that provided significant coverage of M-157:
    1. Gilchrist, Tom (1990-02-03). "Some Michigan roads are only for the lonely, statistics reveal" (pages 1 and 2). The Saginaw News. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2025-07-21. Retrieved 2025-07-21 – via Newspapers.com.

      The article notes: "It's lonely along M-157 east of Prudenville. In fact, it's the loneliest stretch of highway in Michigan. ... But M-157 in Roscommon County, a 1-mile highway connecting M-18 and M-55, is just as remote. Prior to the construction of Interstate 75, motorists traveled M- 157 on the way north to Roscommon but now it has relatively no use, said William E. Buckrop, supervisor of Denton Township in Roscommon County. ... The few people traveling regularly on M-157 live on Lake James and use the highway when driving north to Roscommon, Buckrop said. State highway department statistics surveying thousands of spots along state and federal highways in Michigan show that an average of about 300 vehicles a day traveled M-157 in 1988, about the same average number of vehicles traveling on M-48 near Goetzville."

    If a second source that provided significant coverage could be found, M-157 would meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 05:06, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quinjet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While this one has a tiny reception section, except for [1] it's all listicles and mentions in passing, and even the linked Mary Sue article is poor - it talks mostly about plans for a theme park attraction, and its discussion of the item in question is rathers superficial (effectively, all useful content is quoted in our article - one sentence or so, with the claim that this is iconic/etc because of a wild guess proposed by the writer...). Meh. My BEFORE failed to find anything better. As such, I fear this fails WP:GNG, being just a barely-above-stub list of appearances and plot summary, plus an inadequate reception section. Per WP:ATD-M, I suggest this is merged to Features of the Marvel Universe or perhaps Avengers (comics). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the Features list per nom, since that seems to be the best place to mention this subject at present. Little to no coverage for the Jet specifically. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kerala State Transport Employees Front (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Last year Goldsztajn said they needed more time - perhaps not notable Chidgk1 (talk) 11:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Brawley Cattle Call Park crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is not about a notable subject. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Constant314 (talk) 07:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: under WP:NEVENT. I appreciate Desert IV's contributions to this article but honestly it seems like any run-of-the-mill car crash. Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Onkaparinga Valley Road (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GEOROAD. Only sources provided are google maps and government of South Australia map layers. LibStar (talk) 02:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of eponymous roads in Bengaluru (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Prod removed, I honestly don't see how this passes WP:NLIST, feels like List craft to me. We have Category:Lists of roads named after people which should be fine for category grouping. Govvy (talk) 09:59, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2025 Zeusch Aviation Beechcraft King Air crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 07:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Aviation, Transportation, and United Kingdom. XYZ1233212 (talk) 07:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Sure I understand but could you elaborate how this is any different from the other crashes i mentioned on the See also section? An exact replica of this plane crash was back in 2017 same result and same plane model; 2017 Essendon Airport Beechcraft King Air crash. As I said but I also want to hear from other experienced Wikipedian editors on what they think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megabyte21 (talkcontribs) 08:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've provided some information about previous aviation articles below that were created very quickly, followed by a swift AfD. This one falls into the same WP:DELAY category. 11WB (talk) 16:10, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    How can you claim it is An exact replica of this plane crash was back in 2017 same result and same plane model; 2017 Essendon Airport Beechcraft King Air crash? The investigation has obly just begun and hasnt reached a single conclusion about probably cause. Sure there are some obvious similarities, but an encyclopedia needs to be based on facts not speculation. Dfadden (talk) 20:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: This incident likely resulted in many fatalities, probably in the double-digits and shut down a major airport. Because of that, this article is notable and it does not fall under point 4. Cyrobyte (talk) 07:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Four dead, not "double-digits". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Not that it matters. Any decent closer would discard WP:BIGNUMBER arguments before determining consensus. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:28, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and England. WCQuidditch 10:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify and Redirect. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TOOSOON might be worth considering here. The event literally just happened, there's no way of knowing whether or not this will have any lasting coverage or wider impact. As of right now it's a tragic accident that may, or may not, have sufficient coverage in the upcoming weeks and months to justify a standalone article. Send it to draft now for incubation, and put a redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents in the meantime. nf utvol (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment to closer. There appears to be a raft of "Keep" comments that are nothing more than votes, or do not make any policy-based arguments and are not substantially different from the examples listed in WP:ATA. nf utvol (talk) 12:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I concur with the above. Also, many of the arguments in favour of keeping are grounded entirely in recentism, which while well intentioned, seems to lack informed consideration of content policies based on existing consensus. Dfadden (talk) 13:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: This is a very notable event as there has been significant worldwide news coverage on this aviation accident (not just on UK news). Think of the helicopter that crashed in Manhattan earlier this year. Although it was a flight with only a few passengers, it still gained significant news coverage. This one is the same as this. Prothe1st (talk) 12:53, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Almost all aviation accidents get news coverage, often worldwide especially if there are fatalities, with a burst of coverage in the immediate aftermath of the accident, and maybe another burst when the accident investigation report is issued. But Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Light aircraft crashes very rarely get any WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond that initial news cycle, and it is equally rare to see any WP:LASTING effects (such as changes to aircraft or airport procedures). The article can always be recreated if such continued coverage or lasting effects do occur. But in the meantime, this crash clearly falls under WP:EVENTCRIT#4: Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents [...]) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. Rosbif73 (talk) 06:31, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As of right now, london southend airport is still closed and will remain closed “until further notice” according to news reports. It has been two days since it’s happened and this crash clearly affects a lot of people such as those travelling or returning to/from holiday from this airport by airlines like easyjet. Also is going to cost easyjet quite a bit of money. So that is also why it further gives this event additional enduring significance to make it a notable event. Also if you read some of the other comments, you can see that someone said it’s the deadliest aviation accident in the uk since the helicopter crash in 2018 in Leicester, and also the deadliest airplane crash since the plane crash in shoreham. Prothe1st (talk) 12:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Closure of a relatively minor airport for a few days, and the associated short-term impact on passengers and airlines, are unimportant with regard to notability. Imagine yourself 10 years from now when assessing their importance. Likewise, being the deadliest accident since the last deadlier one is not in itself indicative of notability! Rosbif73 (talk) 12:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Notable incident, four confirmed dead and airport closed for two days. Lots of significant news coverage. Definitely passes WP:GNG. This is Paul (talk) 13:13, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Unsure of the policy on this, but the article in question is now called Zeusch Aviation Flight 1. I am unable to comment on notability yet as this article was only created today and then subsequently nominated for deletion 90 minutes later. (Similar occurrences happened here, here and here). I think WP:DELAY should apply to those 3 examples and this AfD. 11WB (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As the crash took place less than 12 hours ago, and the article name has changed, along with information being updated regularly, I have added the recentevent tag to the article to reflect this. I think this should be the case going forward for articles created so soon after the event. 11WB (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed that it should follow WP:DELAY, which says It is recommended that editors start a section about the event within an existing article on a related topic if possible, which may later be split into its own article if the coverage suggests that the event is independently notable. This should be a merge to London Southend Airport. An article about an event should not have its own article until there is sustained secondary coverage, which it definitely does not at this point. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
*I second this. Redirect (as the information is already there) to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents for the time being, until a clear need for a standalone article is shown. 11WB (talk) 16:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Having read the newer comments for keep below, I am reconsidering my vote. I think in this instance I will withdraw my vote for redirection and change it to keep based on @Harrz's point regarding this being the most deadly UK aviation accident since the 2018 Leicester helicopter crash. 11WB (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Enquire (talk) 19:31, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do agree with you, especially since there are other similar light aircraft crashes with their own article:
WittypediaEditor (talk) 18:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WittypediaEditor: The existence of other articles is no reason to keep or delete this article. Take a look at WP:WHATABOUT, which covers this in more depth. Either way, in the first two articles you mentioned, they exhibited a level of sustained coverage that lends notability to their subjects. The third should probably be brought to AfD for failing to have sustained coverage (all the coverage that is referenced appears to be from the day of or day after the crash, save for the final investigation report which was released a year later). nf utvol (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep: I think it is too early to decide since it just happened. It has got a lot of attention for crashing at a major airport. On the other hand, only 4 people died, and it was a smaller aircraft. I don't think anybody famous was onboard. But I am still split on whether this should get deleted or not. Zaptain United (talk) 20:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was created rapidly. Whilst I think the accident will likely be notable eventually, at the moment it's definitely too early to rely on preliminary reporting for an entire article. 11WB (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: definitely notable - being reported worldwide, shut down an international airport indefinitely and there will definitely be lasting coverage as there is an ongoing investigation and this is the deadliest aviation accident in the UK since 2018 (Leicester), the deadliest plane crash in the UK since 2015 (Shoreham) and the deadliest commercial plane crash in the UK since 2008 or 1999 (Biggin Hill or Glasgow - not sure); some of those may be incorrect, if so I am sorry! harrz talk 00:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Osarius 22:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Significant crash, closed the airport for two days, and four dead. This is not a minor news story, it has been reported internationally; WP:NOTNEWS does not apply. Also keep per Harrz's comment about this being the most deadly UK aviation accident since 2018. Cagliost (talk) 10:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with you. Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was only recently created less than a week ago and there aren't that much citations right now but when there are more citations, it might be worth to keep this article. 2A0A:EF40:5BD:C501:A4D0:1AFF:FE05:7D0F (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course Szymondro1123 (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep or Draftify An important airport closure for 2 days it’s not a normal thing on aviation accidents, but I’m still not sure about WP:LASTING (thinking about that is WP:CRYSTAL), but for right now, Im fine with a weak keep, Im going to see the coverage of this like a month later to see if it passes WP:LASTING. Protoeus (talk) 18:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete No relevant sources since a week ago, fails WP:LASTING. Protoeus (talk) 13:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now, but likely Redirect to a list later. I reviewed the Notability Essays based on the arguments presented above and it seems to me that small accidents fall close to the edge of notability. WP:EVENTCRITERIA clearly states that routine news events (including most accidents) are not notable unless something gives them enduring significance. This article, and most articles like it, don't have overt enduring significance. The reason I think that's close to the edge of notability is because I value the overall sum of accident information. I think they are notable in concert. However, my personal beliefs are insufficient criteria for keeping, and the essays seem to say that articles which are only useful in concert with other articles are more appropriately aggregated in lists. Therefore, I believe this article may as well be kept for the time being to let its significance play out, but if nothing changes it must eventually be redirected to an appropriate list. There's a lot of similar articles that need this treatment, as well. -Baltarstar (talk) 12:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    My understanding is that an article must be notable NOW in order to be kept: we can't guess today whether the subject will become notable at some point in the future. If additional factors giving an event enduring significance come to light later, a deleted article can always be recreated. Rosbif73 (talk) 13:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - small GA aircraft, no wikinotable people involved. This can be adequately covered at the article on London Southend Airport. Mjroots (talk) 12:10, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep this article - it's a commercial aircraft which suffered a whole loss and killed all occupants aboard. For the people saying delete, then please delete all of the incidents and accidents involving caravans etc. to keep your argument consistent. The ACFT involved is a MEA. Furthermore, its occupants consisted of both pax. and crew. Deleting this article makes no sense. I recommend strongly keeping it.
    Cheers. Captain N334AA (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's all good and well, but on what WP:POLICY are you making that argument? Are you able to provide sources that indicate sustained significant coverage of the event? If not, then why shouldn't this should be draftified until coverage exists, with a redirect to the airport's accidents and incidents page in the meantime? nf utvol (talk) 14:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents as an alternative to deletion per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Colomi bus crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present), Route 7 (Bolivia), or Colomi. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:54, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2021 Joquicingo bus crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present), Joquicingo, or possibly an article for the highway if it is independently notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:54, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fujairah National Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I would have draftified this but it’s long past the 90 day limit so bringing here for consensus. I’m not sure about notability and my preference is to send to draft for possible improvement. . Mccapra (talk) 10:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2031 in rail transport (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Way too early to have an article here, a lot of these events are very likely to change and this ends up being a WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sophisticatedevening🐞(talk) 19:21, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • delete Eventually this will be largely deleted anyway and replaced by a list of things that actually occurred in that year, most of which will not be facility openings. Public works projects are notoriously subject to delays, especially when we're talking six years out. Some will take place on time, and some will be delayed into a later year, and some will never be completed. If we are going to keep this, then I think we would have to add to all the schedule failures, " but that didn't happen." But it would be better to wait until 2031 and record what actually happened. Mangoe (talk) 02:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Mangoe. The article is not full of verifiable anticipated events, almost certain to take place, as anyone who follows public transport development projects with interest glumly knows. Delays are frequent and inevitable. What was planned for 2028 gets pushed back to 2031, and then to 2034... far-future articles like this aren't practical. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 05:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - too far in future for any reliable predictions.--Staberinde (talk) 08:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
M53 motorway coach crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or M53 motorway. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 Turkey bus crashes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered with two entries at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or separately at articles for the locations of the crashes. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:16, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yacht transport (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is a redundant content fork/semi-duplicate of yacht, which should cover this entire topic in about a single paragraph. Ed [talk] [OMT] 17:41, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge with Yacht: Fails WP:GNG as there is no independent sources as any information i was able to find was created by companies working within yacht transport and there was little secondary sources that provide SIGCOV required. However, no need for deletion, can easily be fit into yacht as a section. Nagol0929 (talk) 22:08, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sherman, Texas bus accident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Coverage following the event is only further breaking news. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present), U.S. Route 75 in Texas, or Sherman, Texas. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:08, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 Uttarakhand bus accident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or Dhumakot. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:08, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - first I'd say how sorry I am to read about this. Second, I would disagree that 32+ dead in a bus accident would ever be not notable. Third, I would prefer to see the (unfortunately numerous) mass casualty events in Uttarakhand merged into a single page to avoid this kind of nom. I can't !vote for a merge as there isn't a page to merge them to as far as I can tell. Anyway, until that page exists, I'd say that the half-dozen mass casualty events are all notable. JMWt (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    JMWt, something being tragic or causing fatalities, as I already said in the nomination statement, is not a factor that's considered in an event's notability. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 20:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is that an event which tragically kills more than 30 people should always be considered notable on en.wiki. JMWt (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all the coverage is from October 2022. It needs lasting coverage to meet WP:EVENT. The number of people dead is not a criterion for notability. LibStar (talk) 09:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    with respect, all the coverage in English might be from that date. You're telling me that there are not likely to be other references about a massive casualty event of this size? Nobody had an obituary, no government or official reports, no recriminations, complaints etc? Highly unlikely. JMWt (talk) 10:55, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Please provide these sources then. LibStar (talk) 11:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't speak local languages. I'm talking about the likelihood that they exist. I've found a news reference talking about an official accident report, so clearly it has significance beyond news. JMWt (talk) 11:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Here's a letter from the federal Supreme Court talking about an extensive report (pdf) 1 JMWt (talk) 11:32, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Washuk bus accident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or a brief mention in Washuk. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:08, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep (weak) - PM and notable people commented, and event seems recent, so might still prove notable via WP:LASTING, maybe - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 19:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep terrible mass casualty accident, clearly notable. What another horrible accident. JMWt (talk) 20:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have in-depth nor sustained continued coverage of the event itself with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks per the above. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well unsurprisingly the families do not consider this to be a news story. In July 2024 they made public their call for a boycott of the bus company and the bus company was shut down after an investigation.
    If I could search better in Urdu, I think there are very strong indications that there is more analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis to be found in the media and sustained coverage beyond a single day. JMWt (talk) 17:25, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify The main point of disagreement here seems to be that it is unclear if this is a case of WP:LASTING. Therefore, I think the best idea is to keep it as a draft form rather than going all the way on a delete and see if the accident continues to be notable since it only happened a little over a year ago. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 17:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Evergreen Avenue station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed redirect without improvement. Currently zero in-depth coverage, and Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 00:01, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Top Gear series 14. Thank you for the source analysis table. Liz Read! Talk! 19:50, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Top Gear: Bolivia Special (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Previously redirected, but was reverted. Nothing found to support notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 19:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Top Gear series 14 under new subheading. Lacks stand-alone, non-trivial coverage; I've only found it mentioned in lists. There's not enough to justify seperating this from the Series page. // PYRiTEmonark // talk // 20:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Yes No issues with independence Yes WP:GUARDIAN Yes Full article is about the episode and its impact Yes
Yes No issues with independence Yes No real consensus, but most of what I've found puts the Toronto Star at generally reliable Truthfully, I cannot access the article, but given the title I would probably put it in the same camp as the other lists of episodes which were not SIGCOV ? Unknown
Yes No issues with independence Yes Per WP:RSP, Screen Rant is considered reliable for entertainment topics, but not for controversial statements. No Only two paragraphs, I'd put this on the upper end of not SIGCOV, but its just not enough for me No
Yes No issues with independence I'm not seeing any blaring red flags for it being unreliable, but also not seeing anything strong suggesting it is. No Not SIGCOV of the episode, focuses on one specific road in the episode. No
Yes No issues with independence Again, I'm not seeing anything inherently reliable or unreliable, but I would be more skeptical of this. No One paragraph, very little depth. No
Yes No issues with independence Yes I'd say its reliable, much more obviously an 'actual' magazine versus the others so far. No One sentence and an embedded video for the special. No
Yes No issues with independence Yes Looks reliable, was able to find their editorial policy which holds up. No Barely two sentences. No
Yes No issues with independence Again, no blatant red or green flags, but I'd put this a bit higher on possible reliability based purely on vibes. No While on the surface I could argue it is almost SIGCOV, it actually was written before the episode aired, and so only has the surface level information provided prior to its airing. No
Yes No issues with independence Yes Fully transparent editorial team and policies. No Only two paragraphs, little depth. No
Yes No issues with independence No Website is little more than an advertisement/travel guide. No Only a trivial mention of the Bolivia episode. No
Yes No issues with independence Yes WP:DIGITALTRENDS No Only one paragraph, little depth. No
Yes No issues with independence No Appears to be self-published, or something close to it. No One paragraph, little depth. No
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First go at a proper source assessment, and based on it I would say merge to Top Gear series 14 per Pyrite. Weirdguyz (talk) 09:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Outback Highway (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability is not demonstrated for this road. 5 of the sources are maps from the state government (which I'd consider primary sources) and the other is Google Maps. I couldn't find anything when searching online for significant coverage.

(Note that if you want to look for any sources, a lot of the results will be for Outback Highway which is a different road from WA to Queensland; you'll probably want to add "South Australia" in quotation marks to your search.) – numbermaniac 07:39, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - I found two non-fiction book sources searching for "The Outback Highway" "B83". This self-published source has about 7 pages worth on birdwatching sites and there's this which I quote below. On Google Scholar there were 2 sources but only mentioning the Outback Highway [12] [13]. Meanwhile, a fiction book mentioning it. I found at least 5 news sources but they were just mentions. Searching for South Australian sources in Newspapers.com produced 3 false positives. Nothing on JSTOR, TWL. starship.paint (talk / cont) 01:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Through repeated searching, the text in the book "The Road to Innamincka" starship.paint (talk / cont)

We hit a minor road heading up into the Flinders Ranges hills towards Lyndhurst. I slept (or at least had my eyes closed) through most of that stretch, but later learned that the unassuming B83 was the gateway to a great deal of Australian travel romance. After Hawker, this road became the Outback Highway - an alluring name if there ever was one. It followed the eastern shore of the eternally dry Lake Torrens a dozen or so kilometres to the west, offering a sealed surface only as far as Lyndhurst. There, you could choose to wend your dusty way north to Marree, where your choices to proceed were either the Oodnadatta Track or

  • Redirect to Outback Highway, which is the more important and prominent topic in sources connecting three Australian states: Western Australia, Central Australia and Queensland. Meanwhile, "The Outback Highway" is a rural road within the South Australia state that links 6 or 7 towns of a total population of less than 500, and it fails WP:GNG from my search of the sources above. Birdwatching sites in one book and text that is one paragraph long in a second book doesn't cut it. I have already added some information on "The Outback Highway" in List of highways in South Australia#The Outback Highway and a hatnote can be inserted in "Outback Highway" as a link to people searching for "The Outback Highway". starship.paint (talk / cont) 02:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
STS Group (Dubai) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. The article lacks sufficient independent, reliable sources to demonstrate notability. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:34, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep Why i am being concerned about the notability of this topic? I found [15], [16]. But need more to support the case. I also found this, unfortunately this is a press release. Raj Shri21 (talk)
Nagaon railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Other than brief mentions, Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Would have redirected ATD, but could not find a reasonable target. Onel5969 TT me 20:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nagaon railway station clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria under WP:RAIL. It is an active station on the Northeast Frontier Railway, serving the town of Nagaon in Assam with station code "NGAN". The station is listed in official timetables, with multiple express and passenger trains halting there daily. As a vital piece of regional infrastructure with verifiable coverage, it justifies having its own standalone Wikipedia article. Aryan{Talk} 07:38, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • comment Usual practice for stations about which there is no particular detail or notability claim is to redirect it to a listing of stations for the line or railroad. Mangoe (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2009 Espinar bus crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or Yauri, Peru. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 04:41, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MIDC - Andheri metro station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Continued disputed redirect with zero in-depth coverage, and no improvements. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:06, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport - T1 metro station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Again, continued disputed redirect with zero in-depth coverage, and no improvements. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Stations and Maharashtra. WCQuidditch 16:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, unlike some station articles this one does have at least some citations to reliable sources. Unfortunately all the ones to newspapers are about the construction and opening of the metro line, and are not about the station. The Mumbai Metro Rail Corporation Ltd citation contains good information about the lifts and escalators available and other station facilities - but the Wikipedia article makes little use of this. The one positive feature of the Wikipedia article is the infobox - with its little street map, photograph, concise information, the best case for keeping the article is the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Just a dude from earth: I have found independent sources that are just about the metro station,[17][18][19] and also one with a small but interesting mention of the station.[20] There might be a good case for keeping this article if more can be found.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The concerns regarding a perceived lack of in-depth coverage specific to the Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport - T1 metro station have been actively addressed. I have recently added a new section. This new content demonstrates the station's distinct notability, moving beyond general metro line construction news and providing dedicated, verifiable information about its function and importance within the Mumbai public transport network. As a critical gateway to one of India's busiest airports, it is highly probable that over time, the station will naturally garner increased independent media attention regarding its operations, passenger experience, and any future developments or events, further solidifying its long-term notability. Maintaining this article allows for the organic growth of verifiable information as the station continues to serve a vital role.
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Daulatpur railway station (Khulna) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed redirect without improvement. Zero in-depth sourcing and searches did not turn up enough to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 10:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dhalarchar railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed redirect without improvement. Zero in-depth sourcing and searches did not turn up enough to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 10:52, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Disputed redirect without improvement. Currently zero in-depth coverage, and Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 00:01, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nagaon railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Other than brief mentions, Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Would have redirected ATD, but could not find a reasonable target. Onel5969 TT me 20:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nagaon railway station clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria under WP:RAIL. It is an active station on the Northeast Frontier Railway, serving the town of Nagaon in Assam with station code "NGAN". The station is listed in official timetables, with multiple express and passenger trains halting there daily. As a vital piece of regional infrastructure with verifiable coverage, it justifies having its own standalone Wikipedia article. Aryan{Talk} 07:38, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • comment Usual practice for stations about which there is no particular detail or notability claim is to redirect it to a listing of stations for the line or railroad. Mangoe (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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