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Do separate pages documenting new features in software releases violate WP:NOTCHANGELOG?

Hi all,

Ran across a bunch of pages [1] here which seem to extensively document new features in Windows. Vista seems especially prevalent, with 4 whole pages dedicated just to documenting various additions. Given WP:NOTCHANGELOG, should these pages be deleted?

Thanks for your help.

Rcfische2 (talk) 22:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

No, these pages should not be deleted, and WP:NOCHANGELOG says that a summary of development is fine which is what these are. Maybe look at an actual changelog, the level of detail is roughly a thousand times higher. Polygnotus (talk) 22:08, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Appreciate the response. Can definitely see that now, still, many of the pages read like Microsoft puffery. (And 4 pages + the main article for Vista seems unjustifiable and likely to lead to content duplication). Rcfische2 (talk) 22:24, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

@Rcfische2 Can you give specific examples of this WP:PUFFERY? I am not opposed to adding a banner to each Microsoft related article that explains how to install Linux, but some people might disagree with that. Polygnotus (talk) 22:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

As a representative example - Management features new to Windows Vista has lines like:

- "In addition, snap-ins present their UI in a different thread than that in which the operation runs, thus keeping the snap-in responsive, even while doing a computationally intensive task." which is not supported by a citation and seems to just document internal optimizations.

- "Windows Vista includes over 2400 options for Group Policy" followed by a detailed (and uncited) explanation of changes in the GPO architecture.

- More generally, the article cites 37 sources, 28 are Microsoft authored and 9 are independent. Of the 9 independent sources, 1 directly cites a Microsoft representative, 1 is from a Microsoft MVP, and 3 others are from books for Windows users/admins.

While I struggled a bit to find clearly promotional language, taken together, the length of the articles, their massive reliance on primary sources, and their detailed coverage of features which, from my (admittedly non-expert) perspective, seem very minor, all give the impression of undue coverage.

I do think a very aggressive trim of at least the Vista articles, with a final goal of merging their content together into Features new to Windows Vista is in order.

Per the second point, that'd definitely spark an edit war over which distro to recommend.

Rcfische2 (talk) 23:03, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

@Rcfische2 Meh, I'd leave it be. If people decide to try out Vista then that'll encourage them to switch to *nix sooner. According to the pageview statistics basically no one reads those articles anyway. Polygnotus (talk) 05:06, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Millicent Fawcett

Reference number 48 is wrong - please fix - I am confused. Sorry and thanks. Srbernadette (talk) 06:14, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

It is fixed. Polygnotus (talk) 06:19, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

According to our list of reliable and not so reliable sources, the Telegraph is not reliable for transgender-related issues, so I removed that bit. Polygnotus (talk) 06:22, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Uploaded Image Taken Down, Delinkerbot Took down Re-upload

Hi. My original image "Kevin_Fegan.jpg" was taken down from the Commons, by a user, under the reasoning 'low quality, no metadata, unlikely ownership'. It appears I can't challenge this as it was a while ago and has been removed from the archive.

I have re-uploaded that image under the same name, with higher quality, and metadata. I own this image. This re-upload was recently takendown by the delinkerbot. How do I go about preventing this? I want to use this image for an article. Sorry for my lack of understanding. Whirlpuddle (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

@Whirlpuddle Hello! You say you own it, but are you the copyrightholder, almost always always the photographer? For a picture of a living person, we need the copyright holders permission. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes! I just don't know how to prove that? Whirlpuddle (talk) 20:21, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

@Whirlpuddle, the original file was deleted on Commons, following a discussion there, so I would suggest asking at their Commons:Commons:Help desk what you can do now. TSventon (talk) 20:37, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Whirlpuddle has now been given advice at Commons:Commons:Help desk#Re-uploaded Image taken down by delinkerbot. TSventon (talk) 14:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

"It appears I can't challenge this as it was a while ago" Whatever the merits of the case may or may not be, this statement isn't true. There is no deadline for appealing deletions, here or on Commons. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:52, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Original code in Red–black tree

I am concerned that the code in this article was rewritten by a single user, and it appears to be their original creation. While I do appreciate the fact that it is significantly simpler and easier to follow than the prior version, another user and I have raised concerns about its correctness and I've tried discussing with the author on the talk page. I think ideally the article should cite an existing source as a known correct implementation, ideally a peer-reviewed source, so it is easy to compare the code against another version for correctness (even if it isn't exactly the same). I am wondering how best to proceed here? Tombob51 (talk) 01:29, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

@Tombob51 I would recommend posting on WP:VPT. Polygnotus (talk) 04:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Apparently missing item in list after heavy editing

I've been doing a lot of editing in this article. Almost all data was unsourced, so I had to update most values from a sourced dataset. The problem was that, as a result, the right order of the list suffered many changes. I've reordered and renumbered it, but now I find out that the list has up to #228 item, while it previously had up to #229. Any help to find the missing item is appreciated. Thanks in advance. MGeog2022 (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Link to the previous version that included item #229. MGeog2022 (talk) 20:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Mystery solved: it was a numbering mistake, there was no missing item. I'll fix it. No help needed :-) MGeog2022 (talk) 21:12, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

how to remove "dead link" notation

I fixed a dead link by adding the correct URL. How do I remove the "dead link" notation, please? EmLoki (talk) 20:46, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

I ended up creating a new line with the current link and deleted the one that had the old link and the "dead link" notation. EmLoki (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

EmLoki you needed to remove the dead link template, which is straightforward in source editor, and you seem to have found a workaround in visual editor. TSventon (talk) 20:54, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Review

Why do I get notifications about submitting to review Fritzbring (talk) 16:52, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

@Fritzbring The articles for review process is often backlogged, so the idea is that editors will want to be informed once a review has occurred, whether it has been successful or not. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

I need help

I need help editing Indonesian National Revolution specifically on the commanders and leader section in infobox when ever i try to add DI/TII and FDR they never appear or just break a another part of leaders section in infobox Depotadore (talk) 17:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Can you show to us the "Wikitext" you did tried to put ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 22:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

nope but you can see the leader section Depotadore (talk) 05:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

When you are talking about the "leader section". Is this in the infobox ?

If you show to us "Wikitext" you did tried to put. We'll maybe discover a mistake you made.

As I did already edited infoboxes on others articles. I know it's far to be easy. Anatole-berthe (talk) 05:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

@Depotadore, I think that what @Anatole-berthe is trying to say is that if you make clear what you are trying to add, how you are doing, it, and what the result is, it would be easier to help you. Template:infobox military conflict is a huge template, with lots of parameters, and its use in that article is equally complicated. The only change you have recently made in that article is to add a combatant, so it's hard to see what you are saying about (presumably) the commandern arguments. ColinFine (talk) 12:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Live updates for watchlist

I used to get live updates to my watchlist automatically, but now I have to referesh the page manually. Is that option no longer available? Did I turn it off by accident somehow? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Did you clicked on the button "Live Updates" ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Where is the button for Live Updates? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

This button is on your "Watchlist".

If you use a computer to access to your watchlist.

You can use "CTRL + F" with your keyboard to find it. Anatole-berthe (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

CTRL+F on the Watchlist just brings up the entries for this page on the Watchlist.No button. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestions. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

You have to use "CTRL + F" and type "Live Updates".

The link to the watchlist is : Special:Watchlist Anatole-berthe (talk) 05:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Copyright on board game rules?

Can someone read over the existing Gameplay section of Draft:Dorfromantik (board game) to make sure that the rules summary doesn't violate copyright? I don't know why it would as board game mechanics can't be copyrighted but maybe this infringes on the presentation (which is copyrightable)? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to copyright, but the rulebook is publicly accessible for free (it's cited) so I'm really not sure. Thanks! Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

The "someone" won't be me, Chorchapu, because I'd have to compare it with the content of a PDF that I'm unable to download. (Perhaps its server is having difficulty, or perhaps the PDF is huge.) I'm guessing that by "board game mechanics" you mean "board game rules". Why would these not be copyrightable? Accessibility to the public without charge is no obstacle to copyrightability (an example is Wikipedia itself). Citing a source doesn't permit one to reproduce chunks of it. (The chunks should not be major, and should use quotation marks where appropriate.) Copyright issues aside, this article is odd. Sample: "The rules of Dorfromantik: Sakura are incredibly similar to the original" (does "incredibly similar to" mean "almost the same as those of"?). And the writer clearly prefers (or writers clearly prefer) four-syllable "Dorfromantik" to monosyllabic "it". -- Hoary (talk) 00:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

The rulebook is the rules of the board game, meaning the implementation of mechanics. Mechanics are individual things (like hand management or worker placement) that board games draw from, and they can't be copyrighted individually. In the existing section of the article (I'm not done writing it), I do not quote the rulebook directly for any meaningful length, however my question is whether or not just my summary violates copyright.

Yes, Dorfromantik: Sakura is almost identical to Dorfromantik, with only stylistic changes and modifications to the campaign.

I could change the wording up a bit to "it" if that would make it clearer to read.

Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:15, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Chorchapu, are you perhaps confusing different areas of intellectual property–related law? Consider the cotton gin, an idea that's now centuries old. If I create (or even sell) either a sedulous copy or my own interpretation of a centuries-old version, I can't be violating anybody's patent (because any patent would have expired). If I copy (and then publish) a 19th-century description of a cotton gin, I can't be violating anybody's copyright (because any copyright would have expired). If I copy and then publish a 21st-century description of an 18th-century cotton gin, I very likely am violating the writer's copyright. (Indeed, I should assume that the description is conventionally copyright -- "all rights reserved" -- unless I can point to clear evidence to the contrary.) ¶ As for questions around plagiarism, does Wikipedia:Plagiarism help explain? -- Hoary (talk) 06:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

All I'm trying to figure out if the paraphrasing and summary in the article I'm currently writing is a violating of copyright (or something similar) by summarising the rules of the board game so closely. I'm not directly copying anything, but I'm just wondering if my summary is detailed enough to count as copying the rules. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 14:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

As you've said, game mechanics are not subject to copyright. The specific expression of those rules can of course be copyrighted (ie. we still can't copy-paste the exact wording in the rulebook, outside of the limited protections of fair use), but a summary of game rules in our own wording isn't a copyright issue, even if it's precise enough for someone to completely reproduce the gameplay on its own just from our article. Of course, there's still the question of whether it is WP:DUE and encyclopedic, but it's not a copyright issue. --Aquillion (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Alright then, thanks. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 14:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Forgotten email address

If an editor forgets or doesn't have access to the email address they used to create their account, is there still a way of changing their password? Emmentalist (talk) 06:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

In my knowledge this is not possible to change a password if you don't have access to the address used to create the account.

First , try to change the e-mail address used in your account if this is possible. Anatole-berthe (talk) 07:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

If you can find a browser on which you are currently logged in to Wikipedia, it should be possible to solve this problem. However, if you cannot access the email address or the password, access to the account is lost and you will have to create a new one.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

@Emmentalist: Is this about you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser?wpTarget=Emmentalist says you haven't specified a valid email address at Special:Preferences. If you know the current password then you don't need an email address to change it. If it's you and you are still logged in but don't know your password then see Help:Logging in#What if I forget my password? for an option you could try with a committed identity and a request by email. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:07, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. @PrimeHunter Yes, it's me! I haven't verified the email address because the automatic verification email was sent when I created the account to the address I no longer have access to. Sadly. It looks like I might have to start all over again with a new account. Emmentalist (talk) 07:58, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, @Ianmacm I have the password. I no longer have access to the email address to which the email verification email was sent so I don't seem to be able to change that email address to a new one although I'm using the account. Emmentalist (talk) 08:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Cancel my last. I was being stupid (no change)! I changed it as per the link @PrimeHunter gave me. Thank you very much, both! Emmentalist (talk) 08:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

How do I submit my draft?

I wanna submit my draft: Draft: A Dog's Courage but for some reason it didn't work, do I just have to move it? Henihhi28 (talk) 03:25, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

I have edited the page and moved the draft to use a straight apostrophe, as I think the curly apostrophe may have been a problem.

Before submitting the draft I would suggest looking at Help:Your first article. In particular the subject of an article needs to be Wikipedia:notable, which generally means having substantial coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the subject. None of the sources are independent and reliable: e.g. Good Reads is user generated so it is not regarded as reliable by Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 03:44, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok thank you and I removed the goodreads source. I do think the rest of the sources are fine though, maybe I'll remove google books since I see why that isn't reliable. User:Henihhi28 (talk)

Google books shows the book exists, but the description is provided by the publisher. Then you have the publisher's and author's websites and an interview with the author. The publisher and author want to sell the book, so they are not independent. You usually want three or more independent sources, for example I looked at A Dog's Way Home (novel) and it had Kirkus Reviews, PETA and the New York Times. TSventon (talk) 04:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Maybe I'll work on it another time. Henihhi28 (talk)

@Henihhi28: generally it is best to find the sources before writing the article, as if you write it first and then can't find sources, you are stuck. TSventon (talk) 05:11, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Charles Frederic Moberly Bell

Please help with this url which is a PDF: file:///Users/m.reed/Downloads/GB0085%20DD-761%20(3).pdf

it is from here: Hammersmith and Fulham Archives and Local History Centre

The National Archives https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk › down... PDF See also:DP/193 correspondence from A M Lupton,Hon Sec FHA, 1928;. F331.83 BAR Report on Housing Conditions in the Metropolitan Borough of Fulharn, Barclay and ...

It is citation number 7 on the above page. Please assist if you can.

Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 03:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, luckily for whoever m.reed may be, most of us don't have access to their filesystem on whichever server this may be. (Certainly I don't.) Additionally, and as has already been pointed out, such values as "1927-1968" are not going to work for "date" in a Cite template. But look, none of this matters, as the article you're editing is ostensibly about one Moberly Bell, not about a daughter of his. So all you need do is remove this superfluous material about the daughter. -- Hoary (talk) 05:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

It's quite common to include material about children (also siblings, spouses, etc.) who don't have their own article, in that manner. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

file:///Users/ indicates that the file is sitting on your local machine or network. You can either include a URL where you originally obtained the file online, or you can omit it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:02, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

PDF previews from Commons on enWP?

I uploaded c:File:Treatment_for_Pediatric_Gender_Dysphoria.pdf (a 4MB PDF document) to Commons in the hopes of using its generated thumbnail as the lede image for the article about it (Trump administration HHS gender dysphoria report). The preview works fine on Commons, but visiting the file's page on English Wikipedia does not include a preview, and my attempt at embedding it following the advice at Help:Pictures § DjVu and PDF files failed. [[File:Treatment for Pediatric Gender Dysphoria.pdf|thumb|left]] Any advice? Is this a known issue or have I missed a step? –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 16:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

RoxySaunders, your file is there at Commons, at File:Treatment_for_Pediatric_Gender_Dysphoria.pdf. But it's a pdf, not an image; treating it as if it were a jpg, png or svg file won't work. Maproom (talk) 17:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Maproom: This appears to work fine for files like c:File:Cinderella (1865).pdf. A thumbnail of the first page of that document is now embedded to the right. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 17:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Speak of the devil, it works now. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk

So it does! It didn't earlier. Maproom (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Questions on when/how to revert

I'd like to revert an apparently disruptive edit to Deportation in the second presidency of Donald Trump. I've never done a revert before so I had two questions: Is this an appropriate situation to do a revert? If so, what's the best way to do this kind of revert?

I tried restoring a previous version but the option to publish was disabled.

Also, I'm now realizing I should probably have asked this at the Teahouse instead? Apfelmaische (talk) 18:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Apfelmaische Regarding reverting, it's best to compare two versions, and using Twinkle (or related tools), I think the best way is to "restore" to a previous version, but you should try around in a Draft/Sandbox and see the ones that have a confirm screen, and one where you can input your edit summary. I've done this revert for you. ^_^ tynjee 19:08, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll give Twinkle a try, and play around in a sandbox until I get the hang of it. Apfelmaische (talk) 19:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Adding an external link

Hi How do I add an external link to a school's archive. This is an official site, but open to the public. DBlez (talk) 13:46, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Please see Wikipedia:External links#How to link and feel free to ask further if something is unclear. A common mistake is to put an external link in the body of an article – make sure to put it in the external links section. Perception312 (talk) 14:32, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

You want to put an external link on which article of Wikipedia ?

EDIT : Is this "Rugby School" ?

Anatole-berthe (talk) 05:40, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

How do I make a recommendation for a rule change

OP has correctly been referred to Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab). There's nothing else here that the Help Desk can do. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:39, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think that the subject of an article should have a right to respond tab where they can address the contents of their own article, this goes agaisnt rules about writing about yourself but I think those rules should be changed to allow for this. It'd work how any news site does it, a tab reads 'Right to Respond' and then their verbatim quote, proof it's their quote, and the date they made it. I hope you get what I'm trying to say! NotQualified (talk) 00:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

A proposition like your seem to me unlikely to succeed.

In the hypothetical case there are one day a change that make that the subject of the article can comment.

It should not be on the article but on a distinct "namespace".

Why not create another namespace for subjects to address the contents of the articles about themselves ?

Your idea seem good but there are negative hypothetical consequences like some fans of celebrities using this namespace to threat celebrities if this is not a namespace in which only the subject can write.

When I'm writing these words. Subjects can use the talk-page of an article but we can't be certain this is the subject and not another else.

If we create another namespace when only subjects can write about the article about themselves.

How to verify the identity and who should verify this ?

Also , there are not only "Wikipedia in English". There are now more than 300 Wikipedias existing.

Do you imagine this for each version of Wikipedia ? In my knowledge , there are not any person for which there are an article on all version of Wikipedia but some people such "Justin Bieber" and "Volodymyr Zelensky" have an article about themselves in more than 150 versions of Wikipedia.

Does it does means that a person should have to interract with each version as each Wikipedia is independent of each other ?

If we do that for a living person. Should we extend this for dead people.

If we extend this for dead people. Who could have the rights to use this hypothetical userspace ?

People such "Jean de La Fontaine" and "George Washington" are dead since centuries.

It does means that all people who knew them are now deceased. Is this sensical to allow for example theirs descendants to comment ?

My message is long but it explain in few words some of problems we can meet with your proposition. Anatole-berthe (talk) 00:59, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

NotQualified, opinions on the merits of your idea don't belong in the Teahouse so I shan't express mine. But if somebody's description of their proposal needs a supplementary "I hope you get what I'm trying to say!", then that proposal, if so described, would have no chance of success. You should instead think hard about your proposal (probably tinkering with it, and very likely changing it considerably). Having done that, work hard on expressing it clearly, persuasively, and concisely. Only then put it forward -- but not on the relevant proposals page; instead on Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab). -- Hoary (talk) 02:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Hoary You said to @NotQualified to go on "Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)".

For me , this question is above "Wikipedia in English" because it seem to me to be an interwikipedia matters.

In this case the "Village Pump" isn't the right place in my mind.

I prefer let "Notqualified" explain the idea. After , we could guide the user to the right place.

I don't know if the idea is only for the "Wikipedia in English". Anatole-berthe (talk) 04:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

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Discussion

I had a conflict with another editor, so he opened a discussion. And I shared my opinion there, but the user hasn't responded yet, and still continues to edit the article according to his own view.

In this situation, what should I do? I just pinged the user, but I think it't unfair for his version to remain in article until an agreement is reached. If he ignores the discussion, it seems like his edits could stay indefinitely. Doesn't that seem problematic? Camilasdandelions (talk!) 06:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Camilasdandelions: Does this relate to Talk:Something Beautiful (Miley Cyrus album): that looks like a discussion between two editors, who are unable to agree on a question. I would suggest posting neutral notices at relevant wikiprojects to get more editors involved. There are other alternatives at Wikipedia:Consensus#By soliciting outside opinions.

There is more general advice at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. TSventon (talk) 08:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC

Millicent Fawcett

The number 21 has been altered and is all wrong. Please fix if able, thanks Srbernadette (talk) 12:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette Findmypast is considered a generally unreliable primary source (see table at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources) so I think you need to remove that cite altogether or find a better source. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Find the first name of a page

Hello ! I want to fusion two elements of "Wikidata".

The element about the article "The National Cybersecurity Institute (INCIBE)" and the element "INCIBE [Wikidata]".

The problem is the next. I didn't found the corresponding element about "The National Cybersecurity Institute (INCIBE)" in Wikidata.
I suppose this is because this is not the original title of the page.
How to find the successive titles of a page ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

I read logs like "move log" and "merge log".
No result. I get "No matching items in log." Anatole-berthe (talk) 16:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@Anatole-berthe: Some articles have no Wikidata item. The National Cybersecurity Institute (INCIBE) was created today and has no "Wikidata item" under Tools so there is nothing to merge at Wikidata. You can just add the article to the existing Wikidata item. See Wikipedia:Wikidata#New articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

I did resolved the problem. I didn't knew that some articles in Wikipedia aren't tied to a Wikidata item.

Thanks ! Anatole-berthe (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

MOS and words in italics

Hello. I'm undecided about a style manual rule, specifically, italics. I'm a little in the fog. MOS:BADITALICS says: Some proper names—including personal names, place names, and the names of organizations—are usually not italicized as non-English vocabulary.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understood all these words as place names: autobahn, U-Bahn, Oktoberfest, and Volksfest.

Should I consider these as organisations? Deutscher Wetterdienst, Münchner Verkehrsgesellschaft, and Bayerischen Journalisten-Verbands (Bavarian Journalists Association).

I also don't know how to consider these: Polizeipräsidium München, Einsatzhundertschaft (an emergency division), and Reiterstaffel (mounted police). I think that Beamte employees might be italicised, but in doubt, I prefer to ask. Thanks in advance. Oroborvs (talk) 12:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

My general advice would be that this is a question of judgement and if you are unsure you can leave tweaking italics to other editors. Also don't go through the entire encyclopedia changing the italics for every German word as other editors might disagree with your judgements. My thoughts are

autobahn is used in English, U-Bahn in Rapid transit in Germany can be italicised, Oktoberfest is a proper noun, and Volksfest can be italicised.
Deutscher Wetterdienst, Münchner Verkehrsgesellschaft, and Bayerischer Journalisten-Verband are organisations.
Polizeipräsidium München is an organisation. Beamte employee can be italicised. Units like Spezialeinsatzkommando, Einsatzhundertschaften, Hundestaffel, Reiterstaffel and Kriminalfachdezernate could be regarded as proper nouns or could be italicised. TSventon (talk) 13:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: Thanks for the reply and the help, it helps me see things more clearly. Oroborvs (talk) 17:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Help

Now at WP:AN. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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I need some help regarding my account. Recently, I tried updating my Android software through a third-party app[Odin], but the process failed midway and my phone got stuck. I took it to a local mobile repair centre, and they fixed the issue but unfortunately, all the data on my phone was lost in the process.

One of the things I lost was access to Oxiyam.Primal. I had enabled Two-Factor Authentication in this account and saved the backup codes as screenshots and in a text file stored offline on the phone. Now all of that is gone. I also had 2FA enabled on other Gmail and Outlook accounts linked to it, which are now inaccessible too. Chronos.Zx (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

I tried recovering my mobile photos [by this ] to find the screenshots of the codes, but over 20,000 pictures were recovered, making it nearly impossible to locate the right ones.
As a result, I’ve lost access to Oxiyam.Primal. I’d like to request that my user-right rollbacker/PCR be transferred to my this account: Chronos.Zx andd If possible, could Oxiyam.Primal also be redirected to Chronos.Zx, as I'm unable to reply there?
This edit technically confirms this is my account[2]. Chronos.Zx (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chronos.Zx: I've copied this over to WP:AN. I think you'll get a result via that venue. Mjroots (talk) 08:42, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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Book Reference

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Hi all! I'm a user of the visual editor, and was attempting to reference sources which appear on web, one as part of a web database, but are paged documents. I am going to need to cite the sources multiple time, but am having quite a great deal of difficulty with adding shortened footnotes. Any help with the system would be appreciated. To ensure it isn't sourced as an answer, the help page pertinent to this discussion did not answer my question. CSGinger14 (talk) 10:48, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

To provide additional context, I can't understand what it is I'm supposed to be adding to the template in order to make it a reference or footnote as opposed to a "Note". This makes it impossible to a specific page outside of the full length of pages that would otherwise be under discussion. CSGinger14 (talk) 11:09, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

It's not easy to do in VE; you may need to switch to the code editor and follow the guide at Help:References and page numbers#Shortened footnotes.

However, a new feature that works in VE is being tested and your feedback will be welcome. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

If I gave someone the sources is there any chance they could do it for me CSGinger14 (talk) 11:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

I just need to see what it would look like in the context of the sources I'm using and I can do the busywork of changing each one to its needed page CSGinger14 (talk) 11:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

@CSGinger14 If you continue this discussion on your own Talk Page, I'll keep an eye out and help. Give the source(s) you want to use. From your description so far, I'd be inclined to use the template {{rp}}. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:49, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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Use of 'single source' and 'unbalanced' tags when only one POV is documented

I'm looking at the article Huck's Defeat. It used to have a single source tag based on almost exclusive use of a book by Scoggins. The tag was removed, claiming a "new" source. However, that book is just a rehash of the same information.

The article still has only one point of view. Scoggins, Pell, and Edgar are all reading from the same prayer book. So to me, single source still applies even if a technical argument says it doesn't. So how can the bias inherent in the article be indicated? Should it be indicated at all, when only one side of the story is available? Would the unbalanced tag apply, instead, even when only one side of a story is available?

The guide says "An unbalanced article is one that does not fairly represent the balance of perspectives of high-quality, reliable secondary sources." The primary sources about this American revolutionary war event are all from the Whig side. The secondary sources, as a result, only cover one side of the battle. Added to that, the secondary sources are all of the same lineage; that is, all written by South Carolina historians who say this was the turning point of the war. The article ignores primary reports which show the Whigs negatively. In other words, "our" side won so it isn't labelled "a massacre".

Someone with unlimited time might be able to rewrite the article to make it more neutral, but I don't have that luxury. My intention is simply to alert other editors to tackle it when they can.

Humpster (talk) 12:40, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

You can put a {{PoV}} tag on the article, and then describe the problem (as you did here) on the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Good suggestion. You can also post at WP:NPOVN. If you're correct about "The secondary sources, as a result, only cover one side of the battle", then you might want to prepare yourself for the possibility that the article should stay as it is. Our role is to summarize reliable secondary sources, so we will by design often echo the bias of such sources. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you both. I will try your suggestions. I will be satisfied if the article covers the subject in a balanced way based on the sources which are available. It probably depends on the choice of words and the details which are included. In the absence of information from the other side, a statement to that effect provides a little perspective.

When I'm able I will refine my question and post it along with the tags.

This post can be marked resolved.

Humpster (talk) 20:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Redirect issue/deletion request

Hi, can an admin please help delete the redirect from Qasim Shesho to Haydar Shesho? They are two different people: Qasim Shesho is the Uncle of Haydar Shesho

The current redirect is incorrect and blocks my article. Thanks! Kuripenjwen (talk) 22:18, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Kuripenjwen, it looks like you've already created the draft page. This draft would go through the AfC draft approval process before being moved to replace the existing mainspace redirect. Once the draft is accepted for mainspace, the existing redirect would be tagged for deletion and it would be replaced with the approved draft (at that point in mainspace). I did add Template:R with Possibilities to the redirect page per WP:Drafts Jiltedsquirrel 🌰 ^{(talk || contribs)} 23:30, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Jiltedsquirrel, thanks for the info! I wanted to manually move it to mainspace, The current redirect link stops me from doing so and deleting it won’t cause issues Kuripenjwen (talk) 23:35, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Ah! There are instructions present for this situation on WP:Drafts as well, but you may need to make a request at WP:RMTR if you're unable to complete the move yourself. Instructions for how to make a request there are present at the top of the page. Jiltedsquirrel 🌰 ^{(talk || contribs)} 23:45, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Kuripenjwen, why not simply submit Draft:Qasim Shesho for review? -- Hoary (talk) 00:35, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Because that takes way longer than me just manually moving it now if the redirect link gets deleted. Of course these are two different people it should be removed please. Kuripenjwen (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

But Kuripenjwen, drafts that already are obviously good enough to become articles are, from what I observe, typically accepted pretty quickly. Now that I look at this draft, I wonder. It cites just two sources, and one of these is Vice. "There is no consensus on the reliability of Vice Media publications." So why not first improve the draft and then submit it? -- Hoary (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Alright Hoary but the current redirect Qasim Shesho → Haydar Shesho is factually incorrect (they are uncle/nephew). This needs correction regardless of the draft status. I've requested deletion at Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests. And i will take your advice and improve the draft Kuripenjwen (talk) 01:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Kuripenjwen, for future reference, you can request deletion of a redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. There is some guidance on the page you should read before making a nomination. The current redirect Qasim Shesho → Haydar Shesho doesn't imply they are the same person, it just means that you can find some information about QS on HS's page. TSventon (talk) 03:49, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Kuripenjwen, putting aside questions about the reliability of Vice in general, the Vice page you cite is based on one or more discussions with the subject of the article. The Rudaw page you cite is an interview with him -- or so it seems (I haven't listened to it). An article would also need to cite disinterested sources about him. -- Hoary (talk) 06:16, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

@Kuripenjwen The existing redirect is not "factually incorrect." If there is no existing article for a person, it is common to have a redirect to a target page that mentions the person. Although he is not mentioned by name, there is a reference to "his uncle" in the article Haydar Shesho. Madam Fatal (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Moving over citations from article in another language

I can passably translate the 21st century section for this: LGBTQ literature in Brazil but I'm not sure if there's a way to bring over the citations as well Sock-the-guy (talk) 22:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Sock-the-guy you should check that the references support any text you add to en Wikipedia. If you copy the code of the references from es to en Wikipedia, a bot should convert them, see Help:Translation#Citation templates, but do check afterwards. TSventon (talk) 22:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

That does make sense, should've thought of that. I'll go through. Would it be better to revert and toss that in the sandbox since I don't have the time today/right now? Sock-the-guy (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

That would be a good idea, also you need to acknowledge the source with an edit summary, like Content in this edit is translated from the existing Spanish Wikipedia article at [[:es:Exact name of Spanish article]]; see its history for attribution. TSventon (talk) 23:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

See WP:Translate for additional tips. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

[Edit source]

Hi. How comes sometimes this isn't appearing on user talk pages next to the L2 header? Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 15:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

@Fortuna imperatrix mundi Can you wikilink an example please? Is the "sometimes" in relation to a time-dependent problem or a "on some user talk pages" issue? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't wasnt to personalize it though, if you know what I mean! Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 17:23, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

It's unlikely anyone can answer your question, without an example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Changing a section name in an article

Is there a way to identify if a section name in one article is used as a # link by other articles? OvertAnalyzer (talk) 16:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

You can do a regex search. For example, the section Paganism § Ethnic religions of pre-Christian Europe is linked from two other articles as shown by this search: Middle Ages and Religion in the European Union.

Mind the punctuation in the search string: must begin and end with / and the octothorpe must be escaped: \#; do not use underscores in place of space characters.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

ISBN

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I just tried to add the item Lindley here but as you'll see, it has an error. But in the physical book itself, which I have in front of me, the isbn number really does end with an "x" which I've never seen before. Any idea how to handle this and resolve the error? AndyJones (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Use an uppercase 'X'. Neither google nor worldcat recognize the isbn with lowercase 'x' but do recognize the uppercase 'X'. Follow these links:

works: ISBN 0 521 29374 X
does not work: ISBN 0 521 29374 x Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: invalid character

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Brilliant. Yes that seems to have worked. Thanks for your help. AndyJones (talk) 17:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Incidentally, X is used in ISBNs in order to represent 10 as a single character. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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Candy Yuen

Sorry, I get it wrong. Reference/citation number 5 is in the red - please fix. Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 05:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Done, year was listed as 20244. Cmr08 (talk) 05:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

'Publish' on pressing return key

This feels like a bit of a silly question to have to ask, but I had a look in Preferences and couldn't find any relevant settings so I thought I'd ask here just to make sure. Is there a way to stop edits from automatically being published if you press the return key while typing in the edit summary box? I keep accidentally publishing edits when I was just trying to press the right square bracket key, so end up publishing incomplete edit summaries and having to make dummy edits to clarify. Is there any way to prevent this? (Other than just improving my fine motor skills, of course.) Thank you! :) Pineapple Storage (talk) 18:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Pineapple Storage, as far as I know there's no built-in way to do so. I had had the same problem and didn't search for solutions and so write the bit of JS that's at the top of User:Skynxnex/common.js. You're welcome to copy that to your own common.js and I saw there is a script listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List which does it as well: m:User:Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm. (With mine at least, you can still publish using only the keyboard by hitting tab from the edit summary box and then pressing "space" to activate the publish button.) Skynxnex (talk) 19:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

@Skynxnex This is perfect, exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much! :) Pineapple Storage (talk) 07:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Newspaper repository

What is the name of the newspaper repository that we have access too?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Is this what you were looking for? Knitsey (talk) 22:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

This is what I've used in the past. Knitsey (talk) 22:44, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

The latter. Thx.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Assistance in Private-Domain

Hello! If it would be possible, I'd like to speak in a private channel with a wikipedia administrator(s) to request assistance in a certain matter. If anyone could provide any info on how to go about this, it would be appreciated.

CSGinger14 (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Most(probably all) admins have email enabled via the "email this user" link on user talk pages. I'm not aware of private discussion forums for your desired purpose. 331dot (talk) 23:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

If it requires discretion, I would look at info-en@wikimedia.org (WP:VRT) or contacting the Arbitration Committee via email. This will require you to have email enabled on your account, mind. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 23:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Citation error

Hello all,
I'm getting a citation error on a page I was editing earlier, specifically SS Dixie Arrow, for references 66, 67, and 69 (all located in the second paragraph of the sinking subsection. The error states "Cite error: The named reference :(number) was invoked but never defined (see the help page)." Going to the help page is useless to me; I rarely edit in source mode and only know one or two things so I can add stuff to infoboxes. I am absolutely useless with references in source mode. Could I get some help? Thanks, PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 00:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

It seems to be okay when I look at it. Were you by any chance editing a specific section at the time? If so, you'd get that error because the reference wasn't defined within that section. The confusion is understandable! DonIago (talk) 02:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) PhoenixCaelestis, the problem is that you have changed the names of some references here which had been named earlier in the page, e.g. changing <ref name=":0" /> to <ref name=":02" />. I presume that was an error so I have reversed those changes. TSventon (talk) 02:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much! PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 14:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Can the Content translation tool properly translate species articles including infoboxes? (reopening)

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Hi all

I'm not sure where is best to ask this question, hopefully someone here can help. I'm looking at translating some species articles, specifically the species articles for Tsetse fly eg Glossina longipennis into French and maybe Italian. However when I start to translate the article into French there are gaps where the infobox should be and I think also the authority control box at the bottom of the page that links out to external sources for the species. Does anyone know if these are missing because they are broken/not working, or are they just automagically converted including images so they don't need input from me?

I could just translate the article and then publish it, but I don't have enough of an understand of French Wikipedia to be able to fix any issues that come out the other end.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

If you haven't already, refer to Wikipedia:Translate us for detailed instructions. Be aware that different language Wikipedias may use different templates, etc., so ones that work here may not there, as that page's Handmade section, Point 6 mentions.

I am presuming you are fluent in (written) French – if you were not, you would not be able to spot and correct the mistakes that the Wikipedia:Content translation tool (or any other machine translator) will almost certainly make. Good luck! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.194.109.80 (talk) 02:06, 11 April 2025 (UTC)?

The pedias of different languages do use different templates. fr:Modèle:Automatic taxobox (if this is how it's translated) simply doesn't exist; and even if it did exist, viewing it after automated translation of its content would probably be a hideous experience as the names for the attributes/fields (and probably not just their names) within the template would differ. The "automagic" isn't always so bright. -- Hoary (talk) 02:15, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

I think it would be sensible to ask about this on French Wikipedia too—that's where the people will be who have experience of articles translated into French, what infoboxes they have and so on.

Maybe I should also note in passing that the standard practice among professional translators used to be that one should only translate into one's own language. I'm not sure if this is still the case, and of course Wikipedia is a different situation from being paid to produce professional-quality work, but it does hint at translation in the other direction being significantly more difficult. Musiconeologist • talk • contribs 14:54, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi 94.194.109.80, Hoary and Musiconeologist thank you for your replies.

I'm sorting this out for someone who is an expert in the topics and also is a fluent speaker, I should have made this more clear in the first message, the translation will the of a high standard.
So just to be clear, species articles (i think the largest group of articles) cannot be translated between the first and third largest Wikipedias using the translation tool? This seems very broken... I'll make a request to fix this. If anyone has any previous examples of how to do this I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks again

John Cummings (talk) 08:36, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Update: I've begun a discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#The translation tool doesn't translate articles between English and French Wikipedia properly for species articles, how can we fix it? here, if anyone has any suggestions of where to ask the same question on French Wikipedia or has any other suggestions please let me know. Thanks, John Cummings (talk) 09:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Article for review

I created this article The Green Tie on the Little Yellow Dog some months ago. It has never been reviewed/approved, and I wonder how I could ask for this to be done? Thanks! Bosmeor (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Bosmeor, none of the articles I've created has ever had its existence reviewed or approved (aside from what I can infer from the lack of any attempt I noticed to have it deleted). But this hasn't worried me. Drafts are (eventually) reviewed; articles don't have to be. -- Hoary (talk) 21:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC) Written while caffeine-deprived (or just senile). -- Hoary (talk) 22:34, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Unreviewed articles don't get picked up by Google etc, that's the catch Bosmeor (talk) 22:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh, OK. It's now reviewed. -- Hoary (talk) 22:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Bosmeor Google picks up articles when they are ninety days old, see WP:INDEXING, so your article was nearly old enough to be picked up without a review. TSventon (talk) 23:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

i didn't know this Cinaroot (talk) 03:38, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Many thanks! Bosmeor (talk) 06:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

How to make an article show up in a category with a different name?

Currently working on some articles where they should have a different name when in different categories, may I ask how to do this? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:44, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Thehistorianisaac: The category cannot show a different name but the page can be sorted like it had another name. See Help:Category#Sorting category pages. A redirect to the page will sort as the name of the redirect but redirects should usually not have article categories, and the category will not be displayed on the article. See Wikipedia:Redirect#Categorizing redirect pages. Can you give an example article, category and wanted name? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:24, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh ok. Turns out maybe a different name is not needed. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 09:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Gaston Rivero Tenor

Dear Sirs, I added several external links and references to this international artists but the items were removed by someone by the name of Tracy. All the information included additional citations for verification, reviews, interviews and links to Opera companies and concerts halls as sources for Gaston Rivero backing up his Wikipedia page. CraigAmstrong (talk) 16:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

@CraigAmstrong You have made a similar point at WP:Teahouse#Gaston Rivero, Tenor. Please only use that venue since duplication only wastes people's time. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:11, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

So are y'all going to rawdog it or?

Starting from around July-September 2025, a nationwide merge and changing of hierarchy of literally every single administrative division would be underway in Vietnam; such as shrinking the province count from 54 to 34, etc.

Has enwiki reached a consensus regarding what it should do about the articles about administrative divisions here? There's an ongoing discussion over at vi.wiki here, you guys can read them for reference tynjee 18:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

This has been briefly discussed at WikiProject Vietnam here. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

ANI

What should I do if I see a problematic user (Ultra 348 (talk · contribs)) who has repeated final warnings on their talk page and has been brought to ANI before (though the thread became stale) continue to not use edit summaries and other problematic behavior for which they have already been warned multiple times? Since I have never been directly involved with the user, I don't think that bringing up another ANI discussion would be appropriate, especially as I have never been there before. I'm also not sure I want to put in the effort to find all the diffs for their problematic behavior, which stretches back to 2023. If there is a better venue to bring this up, please point me in the right direction. Thanks, it's lio! | talk | work 11:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

You could notify User:Magnolia677 (as I do, here), who issued the last warning on the user's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Is there a tool or process to copy images hosted on Commons to Wikipedia?

Hi all

Some images taken in France are being discussed for deletion here because there is no freedom of panorama in France. I understand from this template that these images would be allowed on Wikipedia. Please could someone tell me if there's a tool or process to copy them across?

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 09:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I asked the same thing on WP:VPT recently and was directed to https://wikifile-transfer.toolforge.org/ - however, every time I try using it, including just now, I get an "error 500" (which I have reported on its GitHub page, with no response as yet). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I lost all my contents

Hello, all of my contents (user page, contribs, etc.) have vanished. Can someone help please? I was so far in, but everything reset. Fijimeddars (talk) 06:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind; it fixed Fijimeddars (talk) 06:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Archiving

Hi there, I am trying to set up auto-archiving on my talk page and cannot for the life of me get it to work. Is there anyone who can be bothered to help? Additionally, I'd like to set up one-click archiving but did what was my best guess at how to set it up to no avail. It would be helpful for me to have these two tools so if anyone can lend a hand that would be much appreciated :)
Thanks, JacobTheRox (talk) 12:36, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@JacobTheRox: That setup should be fine, but since the bot only checks things once a day you'll need to wait 24 hours or so.

Your "best guess" edit has copied the tool rather than installed it. I've added installation instructions to the documentation at User:Elli/OneClickArchiver. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Haha I've fixed it anyway since but I knew I'd done something stupid! Thanks for your help; I've manually archived my talk page since but for some reason I thought it updated hourly. Best wishes, JacobTheRox (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Would it be appropriate to include translation in title?

Recently, I've created the article Noladeti Lashalom, and I want to rename it to "Noladeti Lashalom (I was born for peace)" since that is the translation of the title. I have looked in the naming policies and did not find anything relevant. The new title would be pretty long, so I seek your opinion on what to do with it Someonefighter (talk) 17:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@Someonefighter I'm not sure if the MOS covers this but I found an example for another song Viva la Vida which doesn't have the translation in the title. If readers were likely to use "I was born for peace" to search for the article, then a WP:REDIRECT might be appropriate. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

You probably want Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English-language sources), which says follow usage in English-language sources, if any. Noladeti Lashalom seems to be consistent with other members of Category:Israeli songs. TSventon (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! (to both @TSventon and @Michael D. Turnbull). I will keep the title as it is Someonefighter (talk) 17:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

How can I fix vandalism in a page preview (not the actual page)

I have found that the page previews for Frederick Douglass have been vandalized (a slur between the words "abolitionist" and "orator"), but I don't know how to fix this since it is not actually on the page itself, only in the preview. JayTeeEll (talk) 05:08, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@JayTeeEll: Oh, that's unfortunate... The page previews should be updated by a cache purge of the page, which I have just done, but it hasn't updated yet... I'll try to figure this out some more. Trim02 (talk) 05:59, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this! I'd be interested if you find out more. JayTeeEll (talk) 06:14, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

This may be related to WP:AN#URGENT: Racial slurs appearing when one hovers over Africa. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 06:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I did a test and a normal purge did seem to update the page preview, but it might just been a coincidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Trim02 (talk) 06:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Alright I think a normal purge DOES update the page preview, but you'll have to remember to purge your own browser cache as well (easy thing to forget) Trim02 (talk) 06:59, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

ok, so I don't know if it was just a coincidence, but after reading your link I tried the Help:Purge#forcerecursivelinkupdate option, and now the page previews don't show the vandalism anymore. So thanks for your help! JayTeeEll (talk) 06:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Godwin Ubaka Okeke has a tag for speedy deletion

Hello all,

I created the article Godwin Ubaka Okeke and It was recently marked for speedy deletion. My question here is... can I rewrite the article or will that cause my harm. Akwugo (talk) 11:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

@Akwugo According to the discussion on your talk page, the issue is the copyright of the text you copied into your draft. I suggest you continue to discuss the issue on your talk page unless more general questions arise. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:22, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Archiving at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion

The bot is dumping everything into archive 1, which is fairly massive by now. Anyone up to fixing this, and perhaps "spread it out" properly? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

The archiving instructions were accidentally reset in 2017. I'll move the 2016-2017 material from archive 1 into a new archive 13 and tell the bot to start archive 14. Archive 13 will be about 200K, which I don't think is too large for an archive page. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Request for Flexibility in Guidelines-First E-Political Party in the World (VSJP)

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

I am submitting this message as the founder of the *Vishwa Shanti Janata Party (VSJP)*, which is the **world’s first fully digital political party**, founded on April 2, 2025. We are officially active across global digital platforms including YouTube, Facebook, X (Twitter), Instagram, Threads, and Google Sites.

Our political activities are carried out entirely through the internet, making us a precedent in digital democracy. As such, our existence represents a shift in political structure aligned with modern technology and accessibility.

However, due to Wikipedia’s current guidelines, we find difficulty in meeting notability criteria through traditional media references. We respectfully request that Wikipedia acknowledges this **global digital transformation** and consider updating editorial inclusion for new-age political movements like VSJP.

All documents are publicly available and have been submitted to:

UNESCO
WIPO
UN OHCHR
Election Commission of India

We kindly ask for editorial review support or alternative recognition guidance.

Thank you for your time and understanding.

-- Aaryan Narasimhan Radhakrishnan Founder & International Leader – Vishwa Shanti Janata Party Chief Ambassador of World Peace | Digital Father of the World Website: https://www.vsjp.org Aaryan Narasimhan R (talk) 08:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Aaryan Narasimhan R. From the point of view of Wikipedia, we do not care what you and your political party says about itself. We care only about what reliable published sources entirely independent of your political party say about it. There are no special carve-outs for organizations that operate only digitally. Your party must meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) to be eligible for a Wikipedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 08:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Formatting in semi-protected edit requests

A new editor has made a couple of attempts to lodge a semi-protected edit request (most recently here) but it corrupts the display of the talk page in question, blanking a large section and failing to display their own post. I suspect it is connected with their inclusion of refs in the request and it won't corrupt and will display if these are removed. Is there a way for them to make the request with refs included or should they simply be omitted? Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mutt Lunker Posts on talk pages can certainly include references. If done with <ref> </ref> tags, then the addition of a {{talkref}} template (not indented) at the foot of the section will format things correctly. It would help the other editor if you could restore their edit with that template included. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

There was a non-balanced tag in a section from over 5 years ago. I fixed it.[3] DMacks (talk) 13:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks all. Mutt Lunker (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Prior's Field School

Courtesy link: Prior's Field School

Please fix up ref number 2 - it is not quite right. thank you Srbernadette (talk) 23:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette You had the year of the access date as "20333". You've made this sort of simple error before and ask us to fix it. I'm wondering, do you use the preview button? 331dot (talk) 23:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Issue with brackets

Hi there! What is it that I'm doing wrong here to not have Round 6? Thanks in advance, Alavense (talk) 15:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid you may have to provide a bit more context to your question. GMG ^talk 15:28, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, GreenMeansGo. I've added information for six rounds, but the template only shows five, so I guess there's something I must have done wrong. I just can't find it. Maybe someone can help me with that. Thanks. Alavense (talk) 15:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Checking the code, {{2NTeam-NTeamBracket}} does not appear to have implemented a round 6. The code ends at | RD5 = Fifth round. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 16:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh, that's true... Thank you very much for noticing, LightNightLights. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 16:24, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Source in Dropbox?

Courtesy link: User:DrOrinScrivello/National Geographic Society Headquarters

I'm working on the above draft about a listing on the National Register of Historic Places. The NRHP nomination form, which is a crucial source for the site's architecture, is found at this website (very bottom of the article under "Related Sources"), but unfortunately it's hosted on Dropbox. Is there a preferred remedy for this that makes it so someone clicking the source link in our article isn't greeted with an immediate download of the file? Barring any better options, is linking to the Dropbox file an acceptable last resort, or should I just treat it like an offline source and not link? I appreciate any guidance. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 15:28, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @DrOrinScrivello. I'm afraid I don't see how a filled-in application form on an unidentified dropbox account can possibly be a reliably published source. Who is the publisher? (You write "National Park Service" as though they are the publisher, but in what sense have they published it?)

If you can cite this, what is to stop me filling in an application form, not submitting it but putting it on my Google Drive or Dropbox, and citing it?

Furthermore, even if you can justify that as a reliable source, it is clearly not an independent one, and so should be cited only in the limited ways that a primary source can be used.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what independent reliable sources say about a subject, and very little else. ColinFine (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, @ColinFine. These are valid questions. I've only been editing in this topic area for a couple of years, but my NRHP editing has been based on the guidance at WP:NRHP where these forms have been used as sources for many years.

The forms are researched and written by architectural historians and other subject matter experts, and are (what I assume is considered) published by the National Park Service (on their website here) when new listings on the Register are announced. Unfortunately these days they frequently don't digitize and post the forms themselves, which leaves it up to state government agencies to request them and do so themselves (Virginia posts theirs here). Washington DC has not posted their forms for a few years now, so the DC Preservation League that I linked in my first comment has requested and uploaded them. Unfortunately this particular one is linked to a Dropbox account, which I understand is unreliable, but the form itself is a reliable source. The independence can be debated (and I'm sure has been in the past), but from what I've seen they have long been used as a source for architectural details and historical information. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @DrOrinScrivello. I was not aware of WP:NRHP, and I haven't delved into what it says.

But it seems to me that there is a world of difference between an application form which has been published by the NPS, and one which has not.

Dropbox is not the issue: that's simply the medium by which the link has been made available. For most sources, a link is not an essential part of the citation, but simply a convenience for the reader.

You say that the form iself is a reliable source: I say that unless it has been published by a publisher with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking, then it is not a reliable source.

Consider a reader who wants to verify material from the WP article. They see a citation with authors, date, and publisher. They pick the link, and get to something which looks very much like a filled-in form, rather than a published document, hosted on some random DropBox site. What reason do they have for believing that this is the genuine application, and that all the information in it is accurate? Who put it there, and are they reliable?

Generally, a reader has the option of ignoring the URL (if one is provided) and obtaining the object in another way - such as ordering a copy from a major library. Is that possible here? ColinFine (talk) 21:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Reference Error

Looking at this Bibliography section: Hamlet_on_screen#Bibliography I see lots of items in red. Can anyone tell:

whether they are errors, and if so what I can do to fix; alternatively
are they just normal redlinks, and if so is it better to leave them as redlinks, or to take the links off them? AndyJones (talk) 09:51, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Not that many, really. They're just links to non-existent articles. Though a large percentage of them are Cambridge Companions to Literature. Presumably one or more editors hoped/expected that somebody would create the article so titled. I doubt that this will happen. In your place I'd leave the red links as they are. (I can think of better solutions, but they'd take time and effort, and life's too short.) -- Hoary (talk) 10:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Great, that works for me. I'll leave them as they are. Thanks for your help. AndyJones (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

How can I use different colors in light theme and dark theme?

Some wikis support using different colors in light theme and dark theme. Is this feature currently supported in English Wikipedia, or not yet? Upset New Bird (talk) 06:45, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

You might do better to ask on WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

New shortcut

Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Gender

Hi. I made a new shortcut for the wikiproject gender studies. Could it please be reviewed? DarknessGoth777 (talk) 07:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Shortcuts are usually reviewed relatively quickly, also there is a WP:NPP backlog drive this month. In case a reviewer sees this, I have added a link.

I am not sure this redirect is a good idea as it seems ambiguous and the project is marked as inactive. TSventon (talk) 07:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

You repurposed an existing redirect. While that may be good thing, please update the existing uses of it, which were clearly meant to point to the old target. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

New portal

How can i make new portal? Whatback11 (talk) 09:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Which new portal do you want to create? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:44, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I want to make Draft:Portal:Politics of South Korea. Whatback11 (talk) 11:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

May someone who knows Chinese railways please help me with my new article?

I WP:COPYWITHINed and spiced things up a bit to create a Classic rail in China article. May someone please help me expand it? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 08:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

This is a place to get help with technical and practical matters around editing. For subject-related assistance, try the relevant Wikiproject, in this case at WT:WikiProject Trains and/or WT:WikiProject China. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Free animal and plant images

Hello, I just wanted to ask you if you know where to find any free (completely uncopyrighted) images or icons of plants and animals. I searched Wikimedia Commons a little, but I couldn't find any. I recently made Template:WikiProject Christianity topicon, and I would like to make one for WikiProject Plants and WikiProject Animals. On the page for {{Top icon}}, there is a warning that states, "Do not use images with licenses requiring attribution in a top icon if you are going to link to somewhere other than the image description page. Not linking to the image is likely to violate the license." For example, I linked the Christianity top icon to the main page about WikiProject Christianity, but that was fine because the cross icon I used (File:Christian cross.svg) is in the public domain. I cannot use images licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license (which most of the images are) unless I provide a direct link to the image, and while that's fine, I would prefer to link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants and Wikipedia:WikiProject Animals. This is not an urgent matter, so take your time if you need to! Thanks. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 05:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

On Wikimedia Commons, include the string "cc0" (with a zero; without quotemarks) in your search terms. Alternatively, include "public domain". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, @Pigsonthewing, that was very helpful! 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 11:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Walmart comission program

This page is for help with Wikipedia, not for help with Walmart. -- Hoary (talk) 07:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Is Walmart running any commission program like Icom in India? Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 00:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, they have an affiliate program, see https://affiliates.walmart.com/ Polygnotus (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Walmart work program

Member Service: UID : 105477 NO : 7011755721 Special boost Amount : -₹93545 Total Withdrawal Amount : +₹200000 Commission : +₹51472.36 Pending Order : 2nd round 22/25

You will need to recharge ₹93545 to complete 25 products data package,

You have received 1 Special boost in your 2nd round. Now you just have to complete the same workflow as previous time and finish the task to withdraw.

Getting 1 Special boost in 1 round is normal and now you just left only 2 products to submit withdraw, after submit withdraw you will just need to wait the same process time to receive amount Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello! We are not Walmart. This is Wikipedia. Polygnotus (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Also that is probably a scam. Polygnotus (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Walmart Fraud is being committed in the name of India, please help me Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 00:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

We cannot help you with that. This is an encyclopedia. Report scammers to the police. Polygnotus (talk) 00:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Actually we have filed a complaint against cyber crime but if this fraud is caught then Walmart company will also face problems in India, you should also take action regarding this quickly Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I am not Walmart. Polygnotus (talk) 01:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok how to connect to walmart Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 01:04, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Walmart.com Polygnotus (talk) 01:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

आप वॉलमार्ट से आसानी से बैट करके देख सकते हैं प्लीज Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 01:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

You can easily talk to Walmart, please try it. Shivkumarrawat82 (talk) 01:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

यह वेबसाइट Wikipedia है, जो एक ऑनलाइन विश्वकोश (encyclopedia) है। इसका Walmart से कोई संबंध नहीं है।

Wikipedia एक मुफ्त ऑनलाइन ज्ञान का भंडार है जहाँ आप विभिन्न विषयों के बारे में जानकारी पा सकते हैं - जैसे इतिहास, विज्ञान, भूगोल, प्रसिद्ध व्यक्ति, आदि।

Walmart एक अमेरिकी खुदरा कंपनी (retail company) है जो सामान बेचती है। यह दो बिल्कुल अलग चीज़ें हैं:

Wikipedia = जानकारी और ज्ञान के लिए

Walmart = खरीदारी के लिए

अगर आप Walmart की वेबसाइट खोज रहे थे, तो आपको walmart.com पर जाना होगा, wikipedia.org पर नहीं। Polygnotus (talk) 01:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Arrow symbol mystery

Could someone tell me what the arrow symbol below at the right means when Wikipedia places it at the beginning of a line in an article we're editing? I've seen it several times off and on now, and although I seem to be able to delete it I'd like to know why it comes.

Augnablik (talk) 10:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Augnablik - I've never seen it in one of our articles, are you using the mobile or desktop version? - I assume it is a carriage return (enter) symbol, that has been copy-pasted in from another application. We used to get lots of obj in a dotted rectangles, from a similar problem. - Arjayay (talk) 10:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

As far as I recall, @Arjayay, it’s come just on my computer. Can’t swear to that, though.

I too thought of a carriage return — even though laptops no longer have carriages! — but considering each case, I couldn’t imagine why the symbol would be placed there.

If you’ve never seen the symbol, then it would seem it came because of my computer, or even my browser. Augnablik (talk) 11:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Augnablik, if you go back in one of the affected pages' history, and re-open the version you saw it on, is it still there? If so, you could try opening it on another device, which would determine if it is your computer/browser. If it is "reproducible" then you could ask at WP:VPT, where the "techs" hang out. - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Arjayay, I went back as you suggested and checked a lot of earlier versions of the article in which I think I saw one of those symbols most recently — but no luck. I remember that I often deleted the symbol when I'd see it, though.

I’ll keep a lookout to see if it will pop up again soon so I can bring it for your inspection. Augnablik (talk) 13:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

In one of my sandboxes today, that mysterious arrow I mentioned that sometimes appears to the left of a sentence beginning a new paragraph popped up several times on my work. Whenever I saw one, I copied it along with a line of text to show you here ... but then when I tried to paste it, the arrow disappeared.

I might mention that the arrow often disappears on its own from the original on my computer even without me deleting it.

Maybe the issue really does have something to do with my computer, as I haven't seen the arrow in text on on my phone. On the other hand, I hardly ever use my phone for Wiki editing. Augnablik (talk) 11:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

@Augnablik: I might know what you are encountering. Are you using the visual editor? If so, these arrows (carriage returns) indicate single line breaks. Double line breaks create a new paragraph, but single line breaks may be used variously to break up the appearance of the text in the source/code editor and are common after the end of inline references/footnotes. Since you can't see them otherwise in the visual editor, they appear as this arrow. The following text would produce one of these arrows after the </ref>:

Some people format their references with a lot of line breaks to make them easier to parse.<ref>{{Cite book
|first=John
|last=Doe
|date=2024
|title=Elements of Style
}}</ref>
The next sentence will appear to follow the one before the footnote to a reader, even though there are line breaks in the code.

-- Recon rabbit 14:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, @Reconrabbit, I use the VE. Now you’ve confirmed what @Arjayay also thought the arrow meant. I do wonder why it happens sometimes but not others, though, because I always press Return (Enter) once to start a new paragraph.

I thought my question might end up unsolved like another one I’ve had a long time, more frustrating because it involves a cursor jumping up to the line above and to the left on my computer when I’m trying to type a capital letter or certain kinds of punctuation … only when I’m in Wikipedia and while I’m typing messages. No one at the Village Pump seems to know what that’s all about! Augnablik (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

I can only guess as to the source of your second problem. Maybe when you press the shift key, something interprets this as pressing the arrow keys or the "Home"/"Page Up" keys. -- Recon rabbit 16:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

But, then, why only when I’m in Wikipedia … and writing messages … Augnablik (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category help

Might be an obvious answer, but is there any sort of category for works about Asian Australians? Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 05:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Not according to Category:Works by nationality, but I'm also not readily seeing that any of the categories listed there combine multiple nationalities, which doesn't even account for the fact that "Asian" isn't a nationality. I think I'd have to advise against creating such a category, though you might ask at WT:CAT. DonIago (talk) 06:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

For naturalised or other migrants, see categories like Category:Chinese emigrants to Australia; for anyone else, categories like Category:Australian people of Chinese descent. Note also Category:Australian people of Asian descent and its regional subcategories, if the country of origin is not known precisely. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

To clarify, I'm looking for a category for media works (books, films, etc) about Australian people of Asian descent. I'll probably ask at WT:CAT then. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 04:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Sarsenet, Category:Works about Asian-Americans exists as a subcategory of Category:Asian-American culture. Category:Asian-Australian culture exists. You could create Category:Works about Asian-Australians, but asking at WT:CAT would make sense. What would you put in the category? TSventon (talk) 08:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

I also found Category:Indian-Australian films, Category:Pakistani Australian films and a Huffpost list of films starring Asian Australians. TSventon (talk) 10:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Christopher Bullock (civil servant)

Courtesy link: Christopher Bullock (civil servant)

Ref number 44 and 45 were obtained from JOURNALS and I think I got it all wrong. They are not a "simple errors". Please leave in quotes in both. I will endeavour to use the preview button. Please fix and thank you. Srbernadette (talk) 00:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

They are both ridiculously simple errors. You used {{cite journal}} but did not include a |journal= field. DMacks (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

For refs number 44 and 45 - I have TRIED to put in "=journal" as suggested, but no good. Please fix up . So sorry. Srbernadette (talk) 04:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

You changed <ref>{{cite journal |title= Foo to <ref>{{|journal=|title=

What you need is <ref>{{cite journal |journal=Bar |title=Foo , where "Bar" is the name of the journal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Christopher Bullock (civil servant)

I'm sos sorry, but I cannot fix up references. 44 and 45. please fix up. It is too hard for me to redo them as journals. Please help. thank you. Srbernadette (talk) 22:34, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Done, hope this helps! JacobTheRox (talk) 12:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I gave you a detailed description of how to fix this, above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:02, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Omit global contributions link

I was away from Wikipedia for a good while (over a year, I think), during which time the "Global contributions" link was added to the toolbox when viewing a userpage. I have no use for this link, and I'm constantly clicking it when I intend to click the adjacent "User contributions" link. Is there any way to hide it? I already checked the list of available gadgets, but nothing refers to global contributions. Nyttend (talk) 20:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Just add:

#t-global-contributions { display:none }

to your common.css page. Ruslik_Zero 20:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Can you remind me how to do this? I'm unclear if I paste it at the top of User:Nyttend/common.css, at the bottom, or even at a different page since I already have one. Nyttend (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Anywhere in that page without interfering with the existing code. Top and bottom both work. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Floating reply button that links to itself

Hello! I noticed a floating "[ Reply ]" button on the Wikipedia:Update page, centred on the Viewport roughly half way down on the left side, which seems to be a matter of "position: fixed;" rather than "position: relative;" in the CSS. It does not reply to anything, it links to Wikipedia:Update, which is the same page the button is on! I wonder whether this button has actually ever served any purpose. It seems to have been added (not floating) in this version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Update&oldid=1112554098, amidst a lot of other testing. Should this button be removed?

Thanks! ProfessorPuffin (talk) 02:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@ProfessorPuffin: It's the reply tool "Enable quick replying" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. The link did work for me but there was nothing to reply to so it was confusing and I have disabled it.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 09:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I want to add a content on exiting Wikipedia page

Hhvb Mohiiiɓbb (talk) 11:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Mohiiiɓbb, if you want to add content to an existing Wikipedia page, then (provided that the material is both worthwhile and referenced) go ahead and add it. If the page is "protected", preventing you from editing it, then make an edit request on its talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 12:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Cite book template errors

Hi all,

I added a cite to Panzer I#Sources, and on opening the edit window I was greeted with "Script warning: One or more {{cite book}} templates have errors;" etc.; but there were no usual red messages relating to any specific cite. I have the "display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages" script installed in my common.css. I went through every cite and attempted to fix the obvious errors & omissions, but still the message persists. If I temporarily introduce a deliberate error, the "Script warning" message gets duplicated (ie there are two of them in the orange header), and the usual red (or green) message is displayed beside the offending entry, as expected.

Could someone please explain what might be happening, and perhaps fix the problem? Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 12:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

It's the von Manstein citation:

{{cite book |last= ((von Manstein)) |first= Erich |author-link=Erich von Manstein |title= Lost Victories |year= 1958 |publisher= Zenith Press |location= St. Paul, MN |isbn = 0-7603-2054-3}}

{{cite book}} is complaining that the template indicates a publication date of |year=1958 but also has |isbn=0-7603-2054-3. ISBN did not come into existence until c. 1965. Google books and WorldCat both seem to think that the publication date associated with that ISBN is 2004; they disagree on other bibliographic detail.

error messages are not maintenance messages. This particular error message is hidden by default. To show this message, see Help:CS1 errors § Error and maintenance messages.

Also, the accept-as-written markup in |last=((von Manstein)) is not required.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Thanks very much for your swift and clear reply, as usual. I added the double parentheses myself in |last= to try to eliminate the error. Amazon says[5] that the supposed isbn number is in fact an asin, and gives the isbn nos. for the re-published date of 2004. I'll stick in a |orig-date ... Lol, the book isn't actually cited in the refs of the Panzer I article ... An (ahem) 'unauthorised' copy of the book doesn't even mention Panzer I or any other specific tank. I think it's probably best to delete the entire {cite book} entry.

Hmm, although I added the relevant line (I think) to my User:MinorProphet/common.css, and refreshed/bypassed my cache (Firefox) I'm still not seeing the hidden messages. Any ideas? Thanks again for your help. Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 15:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

I think that you have omitted part of the css. These rules work for me

:root .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint {display: inline;}							/* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */
:root .mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error {display: inline;}					/* display hidden Citation Style 1 error messages */

This template should show the error message:

von Manstein, Erich (1958). Lost Victories. St. Paul, MN: Zenith Press. ISBN 0-7603-2054-3. {{cite book}}: ISBN / Date incompatibility (help)

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Tada! That worked. Thanks for sorting me out. Manstein book removed from Pz. I sources: one to read later... Cheers, :>MinorProphet (talk) 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Title page

Hi, I want to create a draft for the song Untouchable by Luna Halo, but then it was covered by Taylor Swift. Now, I'd say Swift's version is more notable than the original and also she did have sogwriting credits as she did change some of the lyrics. For the title of the article, what would it be? Because yes, it is a Luna Halo, but it's also a Taylor Swift song. Would it be "Untouchable (Luna Halo and Taylor Swift song, respectively)"? Jorge Lobo Dos Santos (talk) 11:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I would be skeptical that the original song would merit an article if a cover by Swift is more famous, though certainly I don't know what sources you have. I would suggest first expanding the article about Swift's version.

If you are using the draft process, you don't need to worry about the specific title of the draft; the specific title of a draft is not particularly important. When the draft is accepted by a reviewer, it will be placed at the proper title. 331dot (talk) 11:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

ok. Jorge Lobo Dos Santos (talk) 11:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Jorge Lobo Dos Santos (talk) 11:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Best forum for discussion about "Further reading" sections?

Hi, there is a lengthy conversation taking place at Wikipedia_talk:External_links#Proposal:_expand_the_scope_of_ELNO_to_include_"Further_reading" about guidelines concerning "Further reading" sections. I'm pretty sure this is the wrong forum, however. If, in the unlikely event of a new consensus, that consensus is to be binding, I'm pretty sure that this should be taking place at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style or somewhere at the Wikipedia:Village_pump so that more people see it and have a chance to weigh in.

Any advice on if/where/how to relocate?

Cheers, Patrick 🐈‍⬛ (talk) 20:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Answered here. Polygnotus (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Rendering a square within circle symbol

In this source, there is a review of a film whose headline is a square within a circle because that's what the film's title Vattathukkul Chaduram translates to. How to get the right unicode for it? I mistakenly put ⧇, when it should be the opposite. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: I don't know an efficient way to find such things, but starting at List of Unicode characters I found Geometric Shapes Extended and the character 🟗 "circled square" -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Looks like we need the right font to read it and/or make it viewable. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

John of Reading, I found this and included the first HTML code I found. It renders an unviewable object, for which I think the right font is needed. Whatever it be... Kailash29792 (talk) 07:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Yes, that's the same Unicode character. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Trying to balance the party colours in this template I am creating

Hello, with the 2025 Australian Senate Election results currently being counted I am creating this template to create a new standard for Joint Tickets in the senates results. Currently they are raw modified tables in the results at the New South Wales and Victoria bits (look for the joint tickets involving HEART, People First and Libertarians), and on the pages there the 3 colours are balanced. I am trying to replicate this with the template to replace the need for modifying the table directly but it isn't working properly and I have no idea how to get the 3 colours to balance. The documentation provides an example from the NSW results of that election. Any tips or help on how I can get these colours to be balanced? Thanks in advance and sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. Comfisofa (talk) 11:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I would try WP:VPT. Polygnotus (talk) 11:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay thank you! Apologies I'm still a bit new to editing on wikipedia. Comfisofa (talk) 11:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

There is an infinite amount of things to learn here. No one knows everything. Polygnotus (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Is 8.8.8.8 a invalid IP? Is Wikipedia can block users with DNS?

Is 8.8.8.8 a invalid IP? The 8.8.8.8 is an DNS by Google and 1.1.1.1 CloudFlare.

Is Wikipedia can block users with DNS? Vitorperrut555 (talk) 16:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

[6] answers your first question.

If we "block users with DNS", we will have no users. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

If an admin were to block the IP address 8.8.8.8 then the result would be to block only edits that come from that IP address (which, barring some misconfiguration on Google's servers, should be none at all), not block all people using Google public DNS from editing. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:49, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Pppery I understand, i use CloudFlare DNS for security reasons. Vitorperrut555 (talk) 21:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

If you use Cloudflare WARP then that's a VPN in addition to being a DNS server, so is blocked. But the reason it's blocked has nothing to do with it being DNS. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I could do with some help regarding edit filters please

Whilst reverting an edit at Battery electric vehicle at 21:32, I seem to have triggered a number of edit filters, including Tag; Filter description: Predatory open access journals. I've no idea which link/s might be the problem. Can anyone help please? Knitsey (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I've even tripped a number of edit filters for the same reason... Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 20:44, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Knitsey: You could save the edit so just ignore it. An IP almost blanked the whole article, deleting 107 references. When you reverted, all of them were checked against a long list in Special:AbuseFilter/891. You are not held accountable for the article just because you reverted a near-blanking, and you are not expected to work out what triggered the filter. It's not revealed anywhere so it would be non-trivial. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter thanks for replying. I did double check to make sure I hadn't sent Wikipedia into outer space! Glad nobody has to go hunting through the refs for it. Knitsey (talk) 21:22, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Knitsey I have the script User:Headbomb/unreliable installed and can see instantly on that article that it is current citation #105 that is to the predatory journal. That script is very useful. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull, I might give that a go, thank you. Knitsey (talk) 12:45, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

It even works in the mobile version as well. That looks fairly simple to use. I like the colour coding. Obviously I would still need to check what it highlights but that is a useful tool. Thanks for bringing it up @Michael D. Turnbull. Knitsey (talk) 13:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Unusual text on page preview

On today's Main page - Did you know? section, specifically concerning a fact no. 2 "

that American-born Freddie Lish called playing for the Thai national basketball team, "my dream ever since I found out my mom was born in Thailand"?

a strange phrase appears while placing a cursor on the Thai national basketball team page. Instead of a common page preview, (supposed to contain a beginning of an article), a plain text "weenie lover" is shown - and nothing else. The page links functions normally, and the page itself appears to be normal as well.

Does this happen to anyone else? Is there an explanation? Thanks for any info. Majespařez (talk) 22:26, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

There was vandalism to the basketball team article earlier but it's gone now, the preview just hasn't updated for you yet! CoconutOctopus talk 22:32, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

thanks for your fast and clarifying responses, haven't got used to spotting vandalism yet Majespařez (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Majespařez: It was vandalism, it has been reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuncanHill (talk • contribs)

How to fix atypical vandalism

Could someone investigate this issue please? Mouse-over Omo remains and you get a silly pop-up message. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Does it include 'fat head'? Knitsey (talk) 23:10, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

As in the previous query the article has been vandalised and the preview still shows the vandalised version. TSventon (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Hmm. This sort of cache vandalism seems to have become a larger problem as of late - perhaps a more technical solution is needed, as I've never opened that article but the vandalized prose appears for me, despite the vandalism being undone some time ago. Departure– (talk) 00:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a technical discussion here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#c-Chipmunkdavis-20250509075900-ClaudineChionh-20250509071100, which probably needs to be turned into a layperson's guide. TSventon (talk) 00:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Another one: vandalism on Wikipedia Zero appears from a solid 4 revisions ago. How are these caches created, and why is text that appears on exactly one revision being prioritized? Departure– (talk) 00:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Resolved

– Purged Wikipedia Zero and Omo remains to update cache

The page previews are (according to MW) created by the mw:Page Content Service and should be updated when a new revision is created, page is moved, changed visibility, deleted, or purged/null edited. But they obviously don't since the cache appears to be several revisions behind. Trim02 (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

PDFs not moving when adding new references

Hello, I'm trying to make additions to the Supreme Court of Argentina but keep finding that the pdf cited as reference number 2 won't move to reference no.3. Nearly all of the references seem to disappear when I add a new one. Any help in sorting this would be appreciated.

CSGinger14 (talk) 03:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

You can see the revision I made and the problem it generated in references if you look in the edit history. Also, I'd recommend to any admin that come along that you mark the page for review. Any help would be appreciated. CSGinger14 (talk) 03:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi CSGinger14, you added a new ref name=":0", but ref name=":0" already existed, so I changed the new ref name=":0" to ref name=":3" and that seems to have fixed the problem. TSventon (talk) 03:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you!

CSGinger14 (talk) 03:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I published my draft like 13 times to save it and now all my recent updates are gone 😭

I was logged in and working on my draft. I published it a bunch of times while working because I didn’t want to lose my work. When I finished, I clicked the back button. It said “are you sure you don’t want to publish and save your work” but I’d already published so I clicked no. But when I went back then like none of the stuff I had published saved??? The last publish shown was from like 2 hours ago but I swear I had published it a bunch of times since. 2 hours of work down the drain I swear 😭 any way to get it back? Shocksingularity (talk) 04:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity if you're talking about Draft:Shock singularity, no, it unfortunately appears your newer additions didn't save. You might've been previewing the page, not publishing it. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity When you publish your changes you will be taken out from the edit mode into read mode, requiring you to click the edit button again, so if that never happened you didn't publish your changes. You could try going into Special:EditRecovery and see if anything was saved there. Trim02 (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

It did happen, so idk why it didn’t save 😭 Shocksingularity (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Edit language links

On the House of Krismerhof it has a Deutsch language link that points to Tiroler Landesarchiv [de] which seems to be an archive. How do you remove that link? Wikidata doesn't seem to register it? scope_creep^Talk 23:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Scope creep The dewiki article was linked to in the "references" section without a colon in front, meaning it overrode the language links, see WP:LOCALLINK.

And I just noticed there are two references sections, one which uses WP as a source... Trim02 (talk) 23:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I have requested a review at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. TSventon (talk) 00:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

I read that years ago and forgot about it. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 09:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Scope creep: thank you for the question, House of Krismerhof has now been deleted as a hoax. TSventon (talk) 17:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: Thats bizarre. A hoax. Ah, there been another hoax article recently on the same lines. This is the second one. scope_creep^Talk 20:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Scope creep: I don't know whether it was intended to be a hoax, or whether AI had been used to produce something that looked like a hoax. Is the other article Stephan Krismer? As far as I can see, the sources there seem to exist, while the sources for "House of Krismerhof" didn't. TSventon (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

No. I think it was was the "Dubikowski family with Ostoja coat of arms". It was sent to afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dubikowski family with Ostoja coat of arms (2nd nomination). They were Aristocratic house of... articles with a lot of foreign language refs and so on. Somebody has a penchant for them. Quite easy to spin up and hard to verify if you need to look through a German or French archive. scope_creep^Talk 21:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Page Creation-Sanatan Kadakia/Executive Producer

Hello Everyone,

I am a film producer in American independent film industry. I have executive produced seven feature films. I want to have my page created if allowed. how can i have my page created?

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10067735/ Skadakia6 (talk) 18:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

It is strongly reccomended not to write your own article - see Wikipedia's guidance on autobiographies. If you are notable enough for an article then someone will write one. CoconutOctopus talk 18:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I also recommend reading an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 21:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Lest it cause you trouble later on, please also read and abide by WP:COI before editing any articles about films you have worked on or actors or directors you have worked with. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Bug report

Hi, I couldn't find a proper place to report a bug, or mention the administration team. I stumbled upon a major case of exploitation, full details are available on the talk page of Boyuk Shor Highway. LatekVon (talk) 20:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Technical issues are better reported at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 20:46, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

This is vandalism, I have reported at WP:AIV. TSventon (talk) 20:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

What to do when Wikipedia is plagiarized from

So, the Greenfield tornado just got a physical memorial in Greenfield, Iowa (see KCCI, pinged other users contributing to the text at Talk:Greenfield tornado) and if you look at the physical text of it at the end you can see it's clearly closely paraphrasing the current article's lede (wording of which showed up around February this year). So, what now? I know Wikipedia needs to be cited when copied but this is a physical monument in a city, not some random blog. Departure– (talk) 00:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Generally speaking we add them to Plagiarism from Wikipedia where a nice collection has formed over the years. Polygnotus (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, that's an article-space article and the plagiarism itself hasn't been noticed by RS media. Should someone here contact the news station so it can get there? Departure– (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

My local newspaper has a tips@ email address and I've used it a bunch of times. Journalists are overworked and underpaid so if you give them something that is easy to turn into a short article they are happy to use it. Polygnotus (talk) 00:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Alright, I'll send KCCI something. The same guy (Beau Bowman) has been responsible for a majority of post-tornado coverage on this event through KCCI anyway. Departure– (talk) 01:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@Departure– If you think it fits, you can put Template:Backwards copy on the article talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The provided authentication token is either expired or invalid.

Anyone else having this isse The provided authentication token is either expired or invalid. I am on latest version of Microsoft edge Windows 11 and have cookies enabled Is la🏳️‍⚧ 10:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Is this to do with being logged in? If so, see Help:Logging in#Login issues and problems. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Where's My Account?

Dangit, I'm tired of websites stomping on my accounts. I had one here, but it says my password is incorrect when it's not. My browser remembers all of them. So, you either deleted my password, or my account altogether. I have no idea which email was last used when I logged in, because only my username is listed. I doubt it's the one Microsoft deleted when I didn't understand OneDrive some years ago, and I can't click on forgot password for that email address anyway. I am mentioned in my father's Wikipedia, and this is just crazy to me that businesses do this sort of thing with no warning. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the name of this entire website, which is composed of articles. I think you mean the Wikipedia article about your father.

It would help if you said what your account name was. No one can delete your password or your account. If you did not attach an email address to your account in its account preferences, or forgot it entirely, you will be unable to regain access to it. In that circumstance you may create a new account and identify it as a successor to your old account("I am User5678, I was previously User1234 but lost access"). 331dot (talk) 15:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

No, I mean I had an account for all of Wikipedia and it disappeared.If I create another account, then everything I've done with my current one won't be there. The article about my father I did a lot of work with. So did someone else who wrote an article about me. Anyway, I need the same account back. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 05:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh, missed something you asked. My username is RayFox57. And, yes it can. I'm telling you, I've seen this happen on websites around this country. Usually some weird update to websites causes it. I've been a user for a very long time. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Do you have your Wikipedia username? If it's an issue with your password, you can use Special:PasswordReset (I think that's the shortcut - my anonymous IP is blocked so I can't see the current one). Note you will need access to your e-mail account you used for your Wikipedia account in order to get a new password - if you can't access the e-mail or didn't use one at all, and if you don't have any sort of committed identity, unfortunately, your best bet is to simply create a new account. Departure– (talk) 15:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

See also the instructions at WP:GOODSOCK for best practices for transparently declaring your new account. Departure– (talk) 15:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, of course I have a username. I said that in the beginning. I'll try that special password reset link and see what happens. Looks like the one I tried the other day. It has lost the email behind my username and I don't know what it is. I've had an account for many years now. Well over a decade. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 05:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm really not trying to create a new account. I had my current one ... that I can't log in to ... with customization for a ton of years. I was a software professional, and trust me, something happened to my account behind my back. Won't be the first time something like this has happened because of updates to websites.I've got two more email addresses to try, but can only do 1 in 24 hours. This is just a hassle, because I forget which ones I've tried. I'm an old man whose memory fails sometimes. My browser remembers every username/password combination so I don't have to. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 05:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

RayFox57 (talk · contribs): Your account was renamed in October of 2024 to KingRayVet (talk · contribs). If you still have the password, try using the username KingRayVet before continuing with any reset options. Departure– (talk) 13:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, to clarify: DO NOT post your password to the Help Desk or indeed any page except for ones that specifically ask you for it. Only use your password to log in or otherwise authenticate; be sure you're on a wikipedia.org website before doing so, especially if you are using any third-party tools to attempt to recover your account (which, to my knowledge, there are no official third-party tools to do so, so avoid using any not directly affiliated with or operated by the Wikimedia Foundation). Departure– (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

I believe what happened is that your current auto-login credentials haven't updated to your new username. The password should still be good, so when the information is autofilled, just replace RayFox57 in the username box with KingRayVet and attempt to log in. Your last edit was about one hour before your account was renamed, likely using a form to rename your user, but there hasn't been any activity on your account since your October 2024 comment on Talk:Lalomie Washburn before your username was changed. Departure– (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Ooooohhhhhh, snap. I completely forgot I did that. Yikes and thank you so much. 107.141.56.123 (talk) 15:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Walter Rudin House article

Walter Rudin House

There's a major problem with the External Link "Wright in Wisconsin" in this article! Please address. Pbergerd (talk) 12:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

We need to know exactly what the issue is so that we can address it. What's the specific problem? PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

The link has been usurped, so I have replaced it with an archived version. TSventon (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Pbergerd (talk) 21:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Feedback

Can you please write to me an understandable essay including feedback for my draft? Link is here: Draft:David Thomas King School. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

It isn't possible to guarantee that every school will have its own article. This was declined because there needs to be significant coverage in reliable secondary sources.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

To establish that the school is "notable" in Wikipedia's sense, and so worthy of a Wikipedia article, you'll need to find and cite several reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of the school. Your draft cites plenty of sources, but most of them don't even mention the school. Maproom (talk) 07:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Eight minutes before posting this, Rafaelthegreat, you posted the identical request, as "Feedback", to the teahouse. You're welcome to post a request or question either to the teahouse or here, but not to both, please. -- Hoary (talk) 08:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Help in Category

I want to add Category:Ethnic Tajik people to any article that contains Category:Afghan Tajik people or category:Uzbek Tajik people. How can this be done quickly? FX200 (talk) 21:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Ethnic Tajik people already includes both Category:Afghan Tajik people and Category:Uzbek Tajik people, FX200. Why the need to categorize an Afghan Tajik person or an Uzbek Tajik person as additionally an ethnic Tajik person? -- Hoary (talk) 23:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks. FX200 (talk) 03:15, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK question - number of DYK articles?

Is there a way to find out how many articles an editor has contributed to DYK? (eg for QPQ purposes?) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a QPQ checker in toolforge, replace the username at [7]. CMD (talk) 03:13, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. What’s toolforge? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

It's where people much smarter than me host code for Wikipedia-related webservices. CMD (talk) 03:23, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

But how do I generate a list like the one in your response? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

https://qpqtool.toolforge.org/dyk Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:54, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, both. Appreciated. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

why i cant send this message

Hello Rangasyd,

The Pedophile Allen Huggins who I wrote about in 2021, where you said that being mentioned in a newspaper was not creditable reference. Below is another news paper article about where and when he was sentenced. You can see me in the right of the photo, in the link below.

As I assume you need a court report, where the courts do not write reports on pedophile cases. However, because of the high number of victims across Australia, the Judge is going to release the judgement. However, because a co offender is before the court, the judgement has been withheld from publication. But apparently I can get a statement from the court that he was convicted, but not a full copy of the judgement for some time.

Can you please explain to me what legal documentation or references other than australian wide newspapers and tv stations which covered the court case results, do you require as proof?

Regards Anthony Nolan OAM

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-18/allan-huggins-paedophile-catholic-school-counsellor-jailed/104489296 G3N1U5australia (talk) 11:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

How are you trying to send it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@G3N1U5australia and Pigsonthewing: Because of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=G3N1U5australia see WP:EDITFILTER. Polygnotus (talk) 11:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@G3N1U5australia and Pigsonthewing: Not too sure that I've ever said that "newspapers were not" a credible source. What I may have said is that allegations published in newspapers are inappropriate to use as sources, due to libel laws, etc. As G3N1U5australia has not provided a link to where I supposedly wrote such a statement that newspapers are not credible sources, it makes it difficult for me to provide context or to refute the claim. Nevertheless, in October 2024 Huggins was sentenced following a conviction of offences against minors. It's not the first time he has been charged and found guilty of similar offences against minors. Does it justify an article on Huggins? The answer is clearly, no, due to WP:CRIMINAL. However, there is repetitional damage to the institutions where Huggins was an employee. Hence, I have today included a short paragraph at O'Connor Catholic College detailing the crime, the sentence, and provided references – both of which are sourced from reputable Australian newspapers/media outlets. There is no article on Wikipedia for the school were he was employed in Perth, and was also found guilty of sexual offences against minors and sentenced. Rangasyd (talk) 11:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Its Shielding NOT "sheilding".

Please can anybody fix the page title? its called "Electrostatic 'sheinding'" which is not even a word. the problem is much bigger because i had trouble searching it on index. 152.59.185.121 (talk) 12:51, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

this is the page for which i am sending request-- [[8]]

IP editor. You are correct. There is, however, already another redirect at Electron shielding, so the existing electron sheilding is just there for people who confuse the i and the e! Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

electron sheilding was created as a redirect in September 2005 with the wrong spelling, then it was moved to electron shielding in November 2005, which left a new redirect page at "electron sheilding". Now "electron sheilding" is there for people who confuse the i and the e.

However "electron sheilding" redirects to Effective nuclear charge, while "electron shielding" was retargeted to Shielding effect in January 2013. TSventon (talk) 13:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

In view of that, I've updated the redirect electron sheilding to go to shielding effect and categorised it as a misspelling. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

List 'grammar'

Where can I find a reference on list grammar for wikipedia? In English, it is common to find 'lists', or a collection of like items. For instance, the following is a list of words commonly associated with baseball: bat, ball, glove, white, base, mound.
Native English speakers will choke on one of those words because we intuitively expect a list to be comprised of one 'type' of word. It will either be all nouns, or all verbs, or similar. In this case 5 of the 6 words are nouns, while one is an adjective. While most balls and bases are white, 'white' is not usually listed as something you need to play the game.
Does Wikipedia have written guidance on how to build a list that makes sense? I'd like to rewrite a section of an article to normalize a particular list, and it would be nice if I could point at a policy article. SandyJax (talk) 13:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Welcome! Have you read WP:LISTS and WP:NLISTS? Polygnotus (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Not yet, will do so now. Actually, this is what I was looking for, someone to tell me where to go. WP:LISTS points to several things that should do it. Thanks! SandyJax (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

"Native English speakers will choke on one of those words because we intuitively expect a list to be comprised of one 'type' of word. It will either be all nouns, or all verbs, or similar."

This is not true.

Please provide a link to the article or section you plan to rewrite, so that we can advise more precisely. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Pioneer Village Salem, MA page

I have posted factual content on the page for Pioneer Village in Salem, MA that keeps getting removed for political reasons. In the “talk” I am being personally attacked. Can someone help? Thank you ValueOurHistory (talk) 20:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

@ValueOurHistory: These edits wouldn't be acceptable in any event; we don't allow Wikipedia to be used as a soapbox for external-to-Wikipedia matters. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 21:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I have written factual information and the attacks are happening internal to Wikipedia ValueOurHistory (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

What you have written is an emotional appeal (irrelevant of what the actual facts of the matter are) and has no place on Wikipedia. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Moving from sandbox

How do I do that?

How do I delete a reference and re-place it? DEHusbands (talk) 01:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello! User:DEHusbands/sandbox is not ready to be moved to mainspace (yet). Please see WP:EXTERNAL and WP:GNG and WP:CITE and WP:NOTABLE. Polygnotus (talk) 01:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

DEHusbands, it seems that you copied the content of your sandbox, pasted it to "Nate Miley", and there made a few minor improvements to the result. But the improvements aren't sufficient. I therefore moved "Nate Miley" to Draft:Nate Miley, and turned your sandbox into a redirect to Draft:Nate Miley. In the comment above, Polygnotus gave you excellent advice, but you seem to have ignored it. First, please read and digest both WP:Notability (and particularly WP:Notability#General_notability_guideline) and WP:PERSON (and particularly WP:Notability (people)#Politicians_and_judges and WP:Notability (people)/Subnational politicians), and decide if you'll be able to demonstrate that Miley is notable (according to Wikipedia's arguably strange understanding of "notability" -- an understanding that probably differs from your own and from those presented in dictionaries). If he does, adjust the draft to demonstrate this notability. (If he doesn't, wait a couple of years.) Once you've got the article to demonstrate [Wikipedia-defined] notability, remove the external links from body text. Then, and not before, submit the draft for promotion to article status. (Normally, you'd be expected to get the editor who closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nate Miley as "delete" to confirm that the candidate article doesn't suffer from the problem(s) that led to the decision to delete; but that editor, Nosebagbear, is no longer with us.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I did not see the responses until earlier while at work. I appreciate all the info. I will be ready to read all and HOPEFULLY follow all tips and guidelines on Thursday. If it is ok, may I reach out with any questions?

~~~~ DEHusbands (talk) 04:57, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, DEHusbands, you're welcome to ask questions. -- Hoary (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

What is the best way to do?

I'd like to translate some English Wikipedia article to any other language. Is LLM translation tool good for it, or not good? It it is not good, what is the better way I can do? Upset New Bird (talk) 03:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Upset New Bird! LLM is usually not the best idea. See Wikipedia:Large language models. If you know the language yourself, then the best way to translate it is to do it manually. If you do not know the language well, then it is probably best not to translate it at all. Instead, you can contribute helpfully to Wikipedia in other ways. Why not check out the Task Center for a list of things that need to or should be done? 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 05:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Balsam Cottonwood: I don't mean "generating content" by LLM, but I mean "just translating content" by LLM. Upset New Bird (talk) 05:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Upset New Bird:It's kind of the same thing. LLMs can make a lot of mistakes (I've witnessed it myself). I think you have to be fluent in both languages to translate an article. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 05:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Balsam Cottonwood: Then what do you think about translating original article through LLM platform and correcting possible errors within translated article by me? Upset New Bird (talk) 05:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

There is no way to stop an llm generating content. When you ask it to translate, it might make mistakes, it might leave some text out, it might add some new stuff. Please just translate it yourself if you can, if you cannot, it is best to leave it to others as Balsam Cottonwood notes. CMD (talk) 06:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: OK. I understand! Thanks for answering. Upset New Bird (talk) 06:23, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

How do I cite this?

I would like to cite this data. however, in order to get to the data, you would need to download the zip file, extract it, locate the DBF file (which I doubt most people are familiar with), and open in excel or other supporting app. The website itself also holds the data I am looking for but it would be impossible to look for the right dot on the map (see site to understand). I can't upload excel or other database formats to wikimedia. I have asked there, and someone suggested tabular data. should I go with it? or should I cite the website? Someonefighter (talk) 04:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

You can cite websites with hard to access data. I am not sure what tabular data you are referring to, but you might also be able to cite that. If you feel special instructions are needed for verification, you can add them in a hidden note within the ref tags to assist others. CMD (talk) 06:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Someonefighter: You can also use |at= at Template:Cite web#In-source locations with something brief like |at=Page n of dbf file in zip file. (I don't know whether dbf files have page numbers). PrimeHunter (talk) 06:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! this solves the problem. Will do Someonefighter (talk) 07:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Module:Sports table/WDL GD/PP and Pts/PCT headers

Module:Sports table/WDL

Is someone able to make the headers of these columns (and any others not currently editable) be made to be changeable, such as the current |postitle= or |team_header=?

Eg. |ptstitle=, |perc_header=, |gdtitle=, |pp_header= (something of this nature) KeneRink63 (talk) 05:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@KeneRink63: There is Module:Sports table/Custom with Module:Sports table/Custom#Header options, but this module may be harder to use. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Yeah looks like that’s my only option for now unfortunately. Not sure why it’s not possible to do this in Module:Sports table/WDL considering you can already change some of the headers. Surely it would make sense to set up the ability to alter every header. Hopefully someone with the capacity to make it happen does so. Thanks @PrimeHunter. KeneRink63 (talk) 09:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Please delete my page

I'm not happy with how editors and wikipedia treat new users and I want to delete my user page and all my related logs in accordance with EU privacy bylaws Biokolady (talk) 15:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Biokolady You don't have any content on your user page (it is a red link). No-one can know who you are since you have used an anonymous user name and your IP address is not disclosed. Just abandon the account, from which you have in any case only made three edits. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Won't play more bully games, any admin who still got some sense in this page please send me a link to completely delete my daughter's profile page and email linking data to comply with EU regulations (legal threat removed). Biokolady (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Please see WP:NLT. You can request your userpage to be deleted under WP:G7, but we cannot delete other accounts. Just abandon the account, unless your daughter has chosen to make their information public it isn't on Wikipedia. We don't ask for real names or addresses for sign-up. Now, if your daughter has an actual article, that's a different story. Departure– (talk) 15:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Help finding the author

I need help finding the author of the Edgar Allan Poe page.

Thank you. AntManLover5000 (talk) 19:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

There's no one single author. In fact, there's been 484 of them for that article. More info here. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 19:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. 🙂 AntManLover5000 (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@AntManLover5000: In case you want the information to cite the page outside Wikipedia, click "Cite this page" under "Tools" to see this. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Adding my website to Wikipedia

Hello my site has been online since 2012 and was another site name which was created in 2007 I would like my company added to Wikipedia and the websites I own. Could you please help me add my company an websites history on Wikipeadia? PERHW66 (talk) 19:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a business directory? Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia is not a business directory, but if you consider yourself or your sites notable, you can declare a COI and request an article to be made or make one yourself to submit for review. Departure– (talk) 20:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

You'd need to demonstrate that your business and/ or website meets the criteria in WP:N and particularly WP:NCORP. If you tell us what they are we can give better guidance. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia page

Hello my name is Brigitte Belton. I would like the user who keeps targeting my page with inaccurate information. I am tired of being targeted by the freedom movement. The fact that wikipedia blocked me for over a year so I could not correct the wrongs being done has been harmful. Please restore my page to it's authentic version. 2600:387:F:6411:0:0:0:A (talk) 13:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Brigitte Belton

Biographical articles, including the one on you, are subject to Wikipedia's Biographies of Living People policy, and are subject to more scrutiny for unsourced claims. Nearly every claim on the article directly regarding the subject is cited. As it's strongly discouraged to edit the page about yourself directly, you can raise an edit request at Talk:Brigitte Belton to propose any changes; be sure to have reliable sources to back them up, though. Unsourced assertions from an anonymous IP address that may or not be the subject of an article will not be actioned. Departure– (talk) 14:10, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

You can find information and useful links relating to their being a Wikipedia article about you at WP:About you. I have requested that the page be protected from edits by users who are new or not logged in. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Page is now protected, for a time at least. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Missing info

Hello,

My name is Wojciech Zaremba, and I am one of the co-founders of OpenAI. I noticed that the Wikipedia page for OpenAI (OpenAI) correctly mentions me as a co-founder in the text but omits this information in the infobox. Additionally, the infobox lacks Greg Brockman. The full list of OpenAI co-founders should include:

John Schulman Elon Musk Ilya Sutskever Greg Brockman Wojciech Zaremba Sam Altman

I also noticed that the information about my role as a co-founder is missing from the infobox on my personal Wikipedia page (Wojciech Zaremba).

I recall that more than a year ago this information was present but has since disappeared. I prefer not to edit these pages myself, but rather request someone from the Wikipedia Foundation to verify and update the entries. Let me know if you can help me with that issue.

Thank you,

Wojciech Zaremba Wojzaremba (talk) 18:09, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

See Talk:OpenAI. You should not edit OpenAI itself, however you can request for an edit to be made, so long as you have a reliable source backing up any claims you wish to change. p.s. Edits on Wikipedia are done almost exclusively by volunteer editors, not staff of the Wikimedia Foundation. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Query regarding sources not listed at WP:RSPSOURCES

An editor added a source to an article that is not listed in the WP:RSPSOURCES table. I reviewed it and, since the source is not currently recognized as reliable, I removed it and explained my reasoning on the article's talk page. However, my edit was repeatedly undone, and I have now reached my 3RR limit. As per WP:RSPMISSING, if a source is not listed, a discussion should be started at the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard (RSN).
My question is: who is responsible for initiating the RSN discussion in such cases—the editor who added the unlisted source, or the one who removed it for not meeting reliability standards (as of now)? King Ayan Das (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

@King Ayan Das, I think you misunderstand WP:RSPSOURCES. It does not contain a list of approved sources, only those that have had many discussions. There is no need for articles to use only sources listed in green there. Please do not use that as reason for removing a source. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

So, if I have doubts about the reliability of this non-included source, is it my responsibility to initiate the RSN discussion? King Ayan Das (talk) 21:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Not necessarily, @King Ayan Das. If you are confident that it is not a reliable source, then you can remove it (preferably with an edit summary explaining why), and if the other editor disagrees, they can start that discussion.

But if you think it is likely to go to discussion anyway, then you might as well start the discussion at RSN. ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok! Thank you King Ayan Das (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Citation format for citing a video game manual

Wondering if there's such a citation for using a video game manual as a reference. Ominae (talk) 03:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Ominae. You can use the generic Template:Citation. However, one question is why you feel the need to cite a primary source like a video game manual? Please be aware that Wikipedia articles should not resemble a video game guide. Cullen328 (talk) 04:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

If anything, it's to cite the story. The manual gives it away, but it's only for secondary stuff. Ominae (talk) 06:36, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

{{Cite AV media notes}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:22, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Ominae (talk) 15:27, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Changing business brand name as it is old.

Hi, I need to change the business name and any reference of The Phone Co-op as this is an old name for our business as stated in the copy. The changes include the URL, title, logo image, any subtitles and in the text on the page as well. Please advise on how to do this. The business name is now and has been for many years, Your Co-op Broadband. Thank you. Your Co-op Broadband (talk) 09:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

The original poster is currently blocked for promotional editing and a breach of the username policy. TSventon (talk) 09:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

As clearly stated in the very first line of The Phone Co-op, that company no longer exists, and its operations were transferred seven years ago to the Midcounties Co-operative. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:16, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

On the face of it, that's not an unreasonable suggestion. I've started a discussion on the article's talk page (which is what the conflicted poster should have done). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

New Editor

Hi

Good Evening,

I am Rishika Mirchandani, I am new to wikipedia, I just want to know how many articles do people edit per day and do they earn anything from this/ Princessrishika (talk) 13:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Contributors to Wikipedia do so on a volunteer basis, and it's against Wikipedia policy to edit for profit without properly disclosing it (see WP:PAID). As to how many articles are edited per person per day, that depends on the editor. Gommeh ➡️ Talk to me 13:05, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Princessrishika (talk) 13:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Are you a editor as well/ Princessrishika (talk) 13:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes Gommeh ➡️ Talk to me 13:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay i am new. Princessrishika (talk) 13:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

To this point: editors are not compensated by the Wikimedia Foundation or by the English Wikipedia for their contributions. All edits not done by disclosed paid editors are done entirely by volunteers not working for compensation; undisclosed paid editing is not allowed. However, editing is also free, and we welcome any constructive contribution, big or small. Departure– (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Navigation template is not collapsed

Hi. In article Soliloquy there is a navigation bar at the bottom: {{Theatre | state=collapsed}} The goal is to have that navigation bar collapsed initially. I thought the "collapsed" state would work, but it is not: the bar is expanded on initial view. How do we get the bar to be collapsed initally? Noleander (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@Noleander: The state parameter has to be implemented in each navbox to work there. {{Theatre}} had false documentation claiming it was supported. I have now implemented it.[9] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Ah, thanks ... that was above & beyond. You rock! Noleander (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Help:CS1 errors - "generic name"

On the page Indila, citation 7 is listed as having a "generic name", but the author's surname really is "Bureau". Is there any way to remove this rather ugly looking red-text error message? I followed the link for "help desk" from the page linked in the heading. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I've fixed the citation. See this. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 17:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

To be clear, the fix is to use |last=((Bureau)) (or a numbered equivalent parameter), with double parentheses. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Richard Malone wikipedia

Hi there, I am hoping to update the tag for "Richard Malone" wikipedia page to artist or artist and designer, as currently it states fashion designer which is incorrect, but I am unsure how Artendeavour789 (talk) 22:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

I can see nothing on the Richard Malone (designer) page describing him as a 'fashion designer'. He clearly works in a broad array of fields, and the article documents that. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata listed him as an "Irish fashion designer" which was imported from EN wiki years ago. Editing Wikidata is often counterintuitive, so I've gone ahead and updated it to "artist and designer" to match the current lead of the EN article. Grayfell (talk) 23:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

that's great, is it possible to update the brackets that follow the name to artist and designer, as he is represented in many museum collections and recent shows as a sculptor ? Artendeavour789 (talk) 23:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Artendeavour789. The term in brackets is solely for the purpose of distinguishing him from other Richard Malones, and should be only as specific as is required for that purpose. See WP:NCPDAB. ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

is it possible to change designer to artist? that is how its listed on the official website https://www.richard-malone.com/ Artendeavour789 (talk) 13:18, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Ask at WP:RM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

What references aren't for

See my (reviewer) comment atop Draft:Francesco Pelleschi. I hope it doesn't seem "bitey". Its possible biteyness aside, I tire of explaining what references should do and what's wrong with "references" that fail to do this. Is there a Help or other page to which I can instead point people? -- Hoary (talk) 23:23, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:INLINECITE says that Inline citations allow the reader to associate a given piece of material in an article with the specific reliable source(s) that support it. This implies that sources that do not support some material should not be used as inline citations for that material. This might not be as "spelled out" as what you're looking for, though. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, jlwoodwa -- but that's terribly vague, I think. As is the way the matter is dealt with within Wikipedia:Inline citation, to which it points. (Perhaps I should "be bold" and improve the latter, but I seem to have quite lost my taste for editing guidelines and the like.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

You may tire of it, but remember that most people using AfC are creating an article—indeed, likely editing Wikipedia—for the first time. If you're experiencing burnout, work on some other part of Wikipedia, or a sibling project, instead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:34, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

True, Andy Mabbett. But I was asking with fingers crossed, hoping that somebody would point me to a page already written, one whose existence I'd somehow overlooked, and complete with helpful examples of good and poor practice. -- Hoary (talk) 03:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Does WP:NOTMEMORIAL also apply to edit summaries?

I often contribute and improve articles related to some pretty heavy topics, like List of People's Armed Police personnel killed in the line of duty(Currently working on the civilian equivalent) and similar articles like List of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in the United States; I(I also see other editors doing this) sometimes may add some comments in memory of the police officers and firefighters out of respect. Keep in mind, I don't add these comments on the article itself, I simply add some memorial comments in the edit summary out of respect, and in many cases, there is nothing else to put in the summary. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 18:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

See Help:Edit summary: An edit summary is a brief explanation of an edit to a Wikipedia page. Summaries help other editors by (a) providing a reason for the edit, (b) saving the time to open up the edit to find out what it's all about, and (c) providing information about the edit on diff pages and lists of changes (such as page histories and watchlists). 'Comments in memory' etc are none of that, and accordingly inappropriate. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Understood. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 03:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

changing my Wikipedia password

How do I change my Wikipedia password? KarenAins (talk) 00:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi! See WP:PASSWORD#Changing_your_password. Polygnotus (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm reaching out because I am the Marketing Director

I'm reaching out because I am the Marketing Director of the Aharai! organization. I'm trying to translate Aharai's official Wikipedia page into English, but I’m unable to do so because I’m not a veteran editor on Wikipedia. What can be done? Yuvalaharai (talk) 16:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

First, you will need to declare as a paid editor, see the paid editing policy.

You may use the Article Wizard to create a draft, but that the article exists on another language Wikipedia doesn't necessarily mean it can here. Each Wikipedia is separate, with their own policies. What is acceptable on one is not necessarily acceptable on another. You must show that your company meets our criteria. 331dot (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Note also that no organization, person or movement has an "official Wikipedia page." There may or may not be an article in any given Wikipedia about a subject, but it is an article in an encyclopedia. To be bluntly vulgar about it, we don't give a pruta what your organization has to say about itself, and you as its Marketing Director are overwhelmingly the worst possible person to be writing anything here about it. We are interested in solidly referenced information about what impartial, reliable third parties have to say about the organization, for good or bad. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL This is an Israeli educational organization, and it looks doubtful whether there is enough coverage in reliable secondary sources to have a standalone article. Please avoid copying texts from websites etc into a Wikipedia article, as this would not be helpful.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

"Ann Schauffler" in crazy 8s (band)

The citation "Schauffler, Anne. A History of the Crazy 8s. 2006" is used for a lot of this article but I can't actually find it. Would anyone else mind taking a gander? I haven't encountered this before Sock-the-guy (talk) 22:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I can't find it either. Its not on Gbooks, refseek or worldcat. Don't know what it is. scope_creep^Talk 23:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

"DANNY SCHAUFFLER

Danny Schauffler has been one of the busiest sax players in Oregon. Over the years he has played or recorded with Felicidades, Sky River, Paul Delay, Quarterflash, The Rockin’ Razorbacks, Dan Reed Network, Johnny Limbo, Tom Grant, The California Raisins and others. He was a member of Oregon Music Hall of Fame bands Nu Shooz and the Crazy 8’s. It was with the Crazy 8s that Danny became known not only for his playing but also his energetic stage presence. He is a high school music teacher and also books the music at the Lake Oswego Arts Fair"

I think they may be citing themselves, considering the last names and source #11 Sock-the-guy (talk) 23:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't think this one Barbrick, Greg. "It's a Dog Eat Dog World." The Rocket: June 1990. February 18, 2008 exists either Sock-the-guy (talk) 23:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Tagging a reference?

I found a place where there is a reference to a different language WP. Someone tagged it as circular. It's not circular but WP also isn't RS. What tag should this be? Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @RJFJR. I think {{rs?}} is what you want. ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Map legend missing

Hi,

The colorful and interesting geological map of Michigan Basin (here) does not have a legend indicating the meaning of the colors, without which it is not much more than a pretty picture.

I believe the map legend is on another page of the archived nationalatlas.gov website: here, but I have not been able to find it already uploaded to Wikimedia (in my clumsy search efforts).

Would it be appropriate to add the map legend to the subject article (Michigan Basin) as either a 2nd graphic, or compose an all-in-one graphic containing the Michigan Basin image and the legend image? Harris7 (talk) 11:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Harris7 It would be better to add a (referenced) legend as text, which can then be indexed, machine-read and translated, and will conform to MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. The {{legend}} template can help. Bazza 7 (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

As an alternative, you could upload the map shown as Figure 2 here as that paper is published under a CC BY 4.0 license. At the very least it should clarify what's what. Mikenorton (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Image API?

Does Wikipedia have an image API that we can set up in our database and use to search for free images? It looks like Bing is no longer providing the search capability. 216.255.103.250 (talk) 16:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons is what you're looking for. Most images on Wikipedia are hosted on Commons, except those with non-free licenses (i.e. those believed to be under copyright restrictions). The search tool on Commons can be used to find images with explicitly free licenses - but be sure to read the licenses themselves on a case-by-case basis for any caveats. Departure– (talk) 17:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

See commons:Commons:API. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Article Help

Hello, I'm working on writing an article for the company I work for. How would I go about it? How would I change the name of the article, so it say's our company's name? How would I add an image to the article for our company? How would I accurately add sources? Is it better if our article is long, or short for the length?

Thank you

David at Nexergy (talk) 13:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@David at Nexergy It is always difficult to write about topics in which we have a conflict of interest and Wikipedia's terms and conditions require that paid editors like you declare this in a specific way described at WP:PAID. Once you have done that, you can draft an article to demonstrate how Nexergy is notabe in the quirky way Wikipedia defines that word. Please read all the linked pages before you proceed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

This looks like an immediate range of problems, including WP:PAID, WP:COI and WP:NOT. You would need to declare an interest if you are being paid to do anything on Wikipedia. It is also important to stress that Wikipedia articles are based on what reliable secondary sources independent of the subject have said about the company, not press releases, text from websites etc. Your WP:USERNAME is also a problem. The company may be [10] but any article should be left to independent writers.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

David at Nexergy: your username is fine. See WP:ISU for the details. The point is that only one person may operate your account, not, for example, several people who have similar roles in your company. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Once I disclose I am a WP:Paid Contributor for a company in the User Page..

Once I disclose I am a WP:Paid Contributor for a company in the User Page...,

How would I write a Wikipedia article? Where do I go to write the article? How would I change the title so it is the title of the company? How would I add the photo of the company in the article? David at Nexergy (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Your "paid" disclosure need to go on your user page, not here. that's currently a red link but if you click on it you can create that page. Note that you need to say precisely who your employer is. The template {{paid}} can be used. After that, advice at WP:YFA but, as already advised, if you are a newcomer to editing you are almost certainly going to fail to write an acceptable draft because you will struggle to demonstrate that your company is notable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Also read WP:BOSS for useful advice. It says for instance ...Editing Wikipedia is no small task. Editing it while working for a company is even harder. There are many policies to comply with, skills to master, and research to be conducted. It is also of note to mention that most companies don't actually qualify for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @David at Nexergy. To sum up the major steps you would need to take (after making the paid declaration):

Find several places where people wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to write in some depth about the company, and been published in reliable publications. (Nothing written, published, or commissioned by the company or its employees or associates, or based on the words of any of those, will be relevant; nor will anything in social media; nor will routine business announcements like share issues, changes of personnel, or publication of accounts).
If you cannot find several such sources, give up and do something else. Your company is not notable in the way Wikipedia uses the word
If you can find several such sources, then forget every single thing you know about the company, and write a summary of what those sources say. Even if you think they are wrong, you are not entitled to say so here: that would be original research, which is not permitted.

Do you see why this is especially difficult if you have a conflict of interest?

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. And that is even for editors without a conflict of interest. ColinFine (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Insulated Concrete Form page

I have been trying to update the page to reflect the true history of insulated concrete forms. I do mention the company with the original patent (which happens to be our company), but it is not advertising or soapboxing. It is providing the facts. In the same article there is a reference to a foam patent by BASF which is also a company with patent.

Mr. Ollie keeps removing my edit referencing our patents, but leaves the reference to BASF. He also keeps in references to Werner Gregory, but removes the names of individuals that I provide.

We aren't saying we're better or that "Hey look at us". Just proud of our history which is factual and information related regarding patents.

How do I proceed here? Nexcem19 (talk) 20:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

First, Nexcem19, please read and digest Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and do what it asks you to do. Stop attempting to edit the article Insulating concrete form; however, you are free to use its talk page to request that edits should be made. If you and one or more other editors disagree about the reliability of a potential source for an article, then please discuss its reliability in the talk page. If you can't get agreement there, or think that others should join the discussion, then bring up the matter at WP:RSN. (Note that reliability needn't be, and often isn't, simply yes or no. A source may be adequate for one kind of claim and inadequate for another.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Nexcem19. Please understand that Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything at all that your company wants to say about itself. With some minor exceptions it is only interested in what people who have no connection whatever with your company have chosen to publish about your company in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@MrOllie see above Polygnotus (talk) 02:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

help me

Hello, I previously created a draft article about Dr. Majid Zihrabi under the username Dr. Majid Zihrabi. I understand this may be a conflict of interest. I would like to move the draft content to my new neutral user account for further development. Could you please help me retrieve and move the content to my user draft space? Thanks! Dr. Majid Zihrabi (talk) 07:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Dr. Majid Zihrabi, regardless of your choice of username, if you write about yourself you have a conflict of interest. And a quick look at your deleted article doesn't reveal a single source that's independent of Dr. Majid Zihrabi. -- Hoary (talk) 11:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Arlene (Sax)Martel

Saw her play Little Fawn on an episode of Cheyenne. Did not see it in her credits.0 2600:1017:B127:A11:68C9:6FBF:47FC:BAA5 (talk) 11:39, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Is this a request for some kind of help with the article Arlene Martel? -- Hoary (talk) 12:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

According to IMDB (not usable as a source), she played the Native American character Little Fawn in the Cheyenne episode "Indian Gold", originally broadcast on October 29, 1962. The table of television credits in Arlene Martel, however, is clearly not intended to be exhaustive, so the omission of this one, as well as a number of others, is not particularly remarkable. Deor (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

password

hi, I just got a notification and email that says "there have been multiple failed attemtps to log into your account.'...I also got an email that indicated a temporary password was given...since then I went to Help:Login notifications and changed my password, do I need to report this somewhere? Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

No, if you changed your password (and used a strong one) that should be enough. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Site guidelines on ongoing legal cases

Already being discussed at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Site guidelines on ongoing legal cases. Please don't open duplicate discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hi all. I was planning on making a page of a case currently working its way through the courts that has received several judgements from the Supreme Court as of the past several days. I haven't been able to find any specific site guidelines that point to whether or not current cases can be discussed, but I know that normally information on pages for elections that haven't occurred and (potential) candidates for those elections is supposed to be kept to a minimum. If anybody could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.

All the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 23:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@CSGinger14 You don't say which country, but as long as you have decent non-primary WP:RS to work with, you should be good. A current example is Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation where the Delhi High Court said "Hey, WP can't write about our ongoing court case!" but the India Supreme court said "Yes they bloody can!" Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

How to fix reference issue?

In this draft the reference added shows red links (e.g. Cite journal and other issue) and I have no experience in this matter, maybe i can get help? Wh67890 (talk) 01:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I see no red links, Wh67890, but I do see other problems. I have improved one reference, as a demo for you. (Publication details are from "Solomon Feferman--Papers and Slides in PDF Format".) -- Hoary (talk) 06:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, somebody else fixed before i even posted the issue. However no problem. Wh67890 (talk) 07:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Wh67890 WP:TUTORIAL has good info on referencing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I will read it shortly, thank you. Wh67890 (talk) 07:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Editing random pages

when I have some time I like to review and eventually edit random pages. I cannot seem to find that page anymore. Can anyone help please? Ermanno Shire (talk) 13:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Special:Random will bring you to a random article that may or may not be in need of improvement. Alternatively, you can use Special:Homepage to find articles that you may be more interested in that are in need of improvement directly instead of relying in the roll of the die. Departure– (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

See also Category:Articles needing attention, from where you can navigate to subcategories more closely aligned to your interests and skills. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Page missing Samvidhaan Hatya Diwas

Hi, I created the page Samvidhaan Hatya Diwas long ago, but I can't seem to find it. It has been converted into a Redirect. When I check the History of the Redirect page, I don't see any of my changes, as if I never interacted with the page. Can someone please help me find it or any reason the page has been removed? I can't seem to find anything as the Talk page of Redirect page is inaccessible. Thanks! Waonderer (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

+ EDIT: I found an image that I had used on the original page when I created it. Image: File:Gazette_notification_by_Govt._of_India.jpg. This doesn't help me. Maybe it is useful to someone who wishes to help me. Waonderer (talk) 21:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Waonderer, you can see the history here. (It's the history of "Samvidhan Hatya Diwas"; that is, of "Samvidhaan Hatya Diwas" with one "a" fewer.) Please do not attempt to restore the article without first getting agreement to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind help. Yes, I always discuss before making significant changes. Apparently others don't. Shouldn't @Ratnahastin have had the courtesy to discuss the page before removing content and turning it into a Redirect? Waonderer (talk) 13:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Per WP:BOLD, no. But you can start a discussion about reverting that step, using the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Filtering out reverted edits in RC

Is it possible to only show tagged edits that haven't been reverted in Recent Changes(e.g. only showing edits with "possible vandalism" but not "reverted" tags)? Currently I have reverted edits highlighted to visually distinguish them, but I'd like to be able to hide them altogether if possible. Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 18:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I think clicking the exclude tags button applies to all the tags, so there's no way to specifically see edits with one tag and not the other. The only workarounds I know of are using the ORES edit quality predictions (very likely good etc.) and only viewing latest edits, both of which are filters, not tags. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Gian Maria Aliberti Gerbotto

I've noticed that the article Gian Maria Aliberti Gerbotto, which was cancelled last October on it.wiki, has been translated and published on en.wiki. Thea20071, who created the article, is the daughter of the subject (she has declared so on her italian userpage) and she tried many times to publish the article after its deletion, against it.wiki's policies. The subject clearly doesn't meet the notability standards for it.wiki.

I think the article should be cancelled, but since I'm not familiar with en.wiki's guidelines and procedures I wanted to know the opinion of more experienced users. Thank you for your help! .agrimensore. (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

The usual place to discuss such matters on this project is WP:COIN, but you are required first to discuss the matter and attempt resolution with the editor concerned, on this project. I can see that no such discussion has taken place.

I also note that, though the CoI was not declared on this project, the article was published by an independent editor though the AfC process; and that the subject is a Knight of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic, and hence sufficiently notable to warrant an article on this project.

You should also notify editors when you mention them here or on any noticeboard or similar page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: thank you for your reply. I need to ask confirmation about the notability issue. The subject is indeed a Knight of the Order of Merit, but only on the 4th class: is that really enough to prove notability? 33,442 people have been awarded that title.

@Thea20071: I'm mentioning you now since I didn't do it before. .agrimensore. (talk) 14:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I have given the article a quick copy edit to improve the English, but it would benefit from further work. TSventon (talk) 08:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Youtube

Youtube is described as "usually not an acceptable source" -- but what about the case of a video where an amateur interviews a notable person? It seems to me that's a reliable source because it's the celebrity himself doing the talking (not the channel owner, or some other intermediary). The fact that the interview takes place on a platform where fakes can occur seems irrelevant since it's an actual first-person interview, and therefore you're getting the information straight from the horse's mouth, with no manipulation. Could an exception be made in a case like that? If not, why not? Thanks and happy editing, Chillowack (talk) 19:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Youtube is a self-published source and should be treated as reliably as the person who upload it. AI deepfakes do exist on YouTube and for that reason among others I'd say don't use it in that context. This is better asked with full context at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard if you have any further questions. Departure– (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help. Chillowack (talk) 02:21, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chillowack Also Wikipedia has very little interest in what someone wants to say about themselves. We report what secondary sources report from a neutral point of Vew. See WP:42. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

How do I create a Wikipedia new content page?

I wish to start a list of democracy dies/ trump enablers individuals. A list of names with brief bio and actions they did/ are doing to end USA and keep opening for global edits and additions Does it help I am a monthly $ donor to Wikipedia? I edit mostly in pop/art content. So I am very new to starting a content page LAURANG2020 (talk) 23:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

You should probably read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, and the WP:NOTADVOCACY section in particular.. Your proposed list is highly unlikely to be accepted. And no, donating money (which goes to the WMF, rather than Wikipedia specifically) confers absolutely no advantages regarding contributing content. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

LAURANG2020 Also be aware that editing about post-1992 American politics has special rules; I'll notify you of these on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

How to get an article indexed for search

My article, Avraham Haim Zagdun (which I have sought help with here a few days ago), has been moved to mainspace. However, in order to be indexed, it should go through a new page reviewer. I have noticed only drafts appear in the backlog (as far as I looked). Should I place the request for review on the mainspace article, or should I move it back to draft and request there? I am not sure Someonefighter (talk) 22:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

There's no need to formally request WP:NPP review. The article is in the queue to be reviewed and someone will get to it when they have time. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up! Someonefighter (talk) 11:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Editing Bamboo - Close Paraphrasing

Hello. While finding an uncited source for Bamboo, I found the source, but the statement was directly plagiarized from the source. I want to rephrase the sentence to avoided close paraphrasing or plagiarizing, but the excerpt of the text is so short that I am having trouble rephrasing it. Should I keep the phrasing as it is or does anyone recommend for me to change it. And if so, how?

This is the source

And the plagiarized sentence is "Most are native to tropical and warm temperate regions, but you’ll also find some in cool mountainous areas and highland cloud forests."

Evilrh104 (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Evilrh104 if you find text from Wikipedia online, it is possible that Wikipedia copied the other site, and also possible that the other site copied Wikipedia. The PDZA blog is dated September 18, 2024 and the sentences in Wikipedia seem to be older than that, so it is unlikely that we copied them. Unfortunately if PDZA may have copied us they should not be used as a source for our text. TSventon (talk) 19:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Would you suggest that the sentence be removed entirely? Evilrh104 (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Evilrh104 There must be better (more academic) sources for that sentence but it needs to be changed anyway, as we don't address the reader as "you": see MOS:YOU. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Evilrh104, don't remove it. The mention of cold mountain regions came in the earliest versions of the article before the Wikipedia became so concerned about sources, as Bamboos are found in diverse climates from cold mountains to hot tropical regions. It would be a mistake to go into articles and just remove material which was added back then. Since the statement is true, either just leave it or add a source yourself. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

"Voluntary" bans

How do voluntary topic ban exactly work? I assume the process goes something like this: User:Example does some prolonged disruptive POVing on Generic American politican and gets warned by multiple editors on their talk page. User:Example is reasonable though and recognizes the disruption they've caused, so they spell out in text I'd agree to a voluntary topic ban regarding American politics, skipping the creation of a huge thread at WP:ANI.

Is this topic ban still logged at WP:Editing restrictions and considered an official ban (i.e User:Example edits Generic American politician again causing them to actually be blocked)? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

"voluntary topic ban" is self-contradictory. If it's a ban, it's not voluntary, by definition. The user is simply saying "I will voluntarily avoid...". If they then do not avoid, blocks are likely if the edits are problematic, but not guaranteed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, I looked at WP:Editing restrictions again and immediately found a section for voluntary restrictions including topic bans, so I guess I just needed to look a little harder. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 19:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Most of those look like restrictions that the user agreed to as part of a conditional unblock/unban/similar. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Excluding Biographies

Hi, I would want to view all the Wikipedia articles excluding biographies, is this possible? MiniMikeRM (talk) 00:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Realistically, no. It would take you years. DS (talk) 01:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

There may be some way to view every article excluding the ones in the "people" category. I'm no expert though. MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 02:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

@MiniMikeRM You may be interested to see Wikipedia:Contents/A–Z index and Wikipedia:Size of Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Expansions to the article "Angeln"

Hi, there is an article about the region of "Angeln" in Germany. It is one of the regions from where the Anglo-Saxons moved to Britain, and it is the ultimate root of the word "English" and "England". I tried to expand the article several times, but there is one user, namely @Zacwill:, who keeps deleting everything I write. On 14 June 2024, they deleted all my expansions. Please compare the versions of June 14, 2024, 18:02, and June 15, 2024, 01:35. When I tried to discuss every single topic individually on the talk page with them, they had no convincing arguments for their deletions, apart from that they don't think that it adds anything to the article. They also came up with the argument, that it is not sourced. But they also delete things which obviously don't have to be sourced, like the "infobox settlement". After a while, they did not respond on the talk page anymore. I thought it was because they really don't have any arguments, and began to add content again today. Only after a few minutes, they again deleted everything I added, but still didn't reply on the talk page. It comes across as destructive editing to delete everything that someone adds, instead of trying to add sources. I would need a third party to try to solve this dispute. That user is the only one, who opposes and constantly deletes my expansions, and I have the feeling that they are not neutral and want to keep the article about Angeln as small, unimportant and ugly as possible. Their short answers on the talk page also give the impression that they are not interested in a discussion at all. I need a third party to solve this. Ephesos21 (talk) 17:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

(The Angles moved from there to Britain not the Anglo-Saxons.) Ephesos21 (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@Ephesos21:, @Zacwill: is right about not adding uncited material, see WP:BURDEN, part of the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. I would suggest finding sources before adding information. TSventon (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Something can't be right here. He also deleted very long-standing content, and not just my alterations. The whole article is practically unsourced. If i would do the same now, and delete everything that is not sourced, the article would be gone. I think, it is Wikipedia standards, to be able to write content without having to source every tiny fact. Only if it is an obvious lie, it should be deleted at once. All the other things would have to be tagged, and enough time would have to be given to find sources. Apart from that, this doesn't explain why he also deleted the "infobox settlement". This would be the first thing i'd like to restore, and there are no new facts which would have to be sourced. And this deletion of the infobox is an indicator that his only aim is to delete as much as possible, to keep the article short and the topic unimportant. So first i want to know, if he is allowed to delete the infobox with no new content in it that would have to be sourced, and second i'd like to know why it should be ok, that he alters the intro, parts of which were there since decades, and replaces it with a new self-written, much shorter intro, which is also not sourced. Thirdly, which rule prevents articles, which are not properly sourced from being completely deleted? Ephesos21 (talk) 02:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

No, it's quite right. Again, you ought to read WP:V. More sources in the article would be nice -- Wikipedia is always a work of progress -- but that doesn't justify adding more. But no, removal isn't just for "obvious lies." In any case, once material added was disputed, the WP:ONUS was on you to discuss the additions. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 06:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

I think, if i write too long texts here, and also on the talk pages, the info is so much that i don't get appropriate answers. The user deleted the "infobox settlement" and it includes nothing which has to be sourced, and he simply deleted it because he doesn't like it. But i want to include it. Ephesos21 (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Please follow the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Question about the capitalization of a word on a title

Hi, there is a video game called "The Legend of Heroes: Trails through Daybreak", my question is about the capitalization of the word "through". On every single official page about the game, the word "through" is not capitalized, but according to Wikipedia manual of style, prepositions that contain five letters or more letters should be capitalized. Would this apply as an exception to the rule or not? JJJAGUAR (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

So, by "official page", are you referring to pages that aren't part of Wikipedia? Wikipedia has pages with The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak and The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II, and you will note that these abide by the "manual of style" rule that you have cited. Fabrickator (talk) 01:50, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I was referring to official pages from the game creators (I don't see how Wikipedia pages would be considered "official pages" of any kind). And my question was precisely whether the current articles are well written. JJJAGUAR (talk) 01:58, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

@JJJAGUAR: Why in the world would you consider Wikipedia Manual of Style as being pertinent to the style used on "official" pages that have no connection to Wikipedia? Fabrickator (talk) 02:21, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

First of all, tone it down. I'm not going to talk to someone like that. This is a question, not an argument. And second, it's incorrect to say that those pages have "no connection" to Wikipedia. Almost all of Wikipedia's information about that game comes from those pages, including the name of the game itself. So it's a perfectly normal question to ask whether this specific case could be an exception to Wikipedia's Manual of Style, since the manual itself mentions some exceptions within it. JJJAGUAR (talk) 05:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, does the five letters rule apply only to the article name or also to every mention of the game in the artible body? JJJAGUAR (talk) 02:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

For an absurdly long debate on capitalising a preposition in a title, see this. Maproom (talk) 07:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

That one is different though, the original title, according to the creators, has the preposition capitalized, so there is no disparity between Wikipedia and the original name. JJJAGUAR (talk) 05:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

JJJAGUAR, Wikipedia is under no obligation to follow the capitalization preferences of the companies which, or the companies whose products which, it describes. -- Hoary (talk) 05:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm well aware of that, but I didn't ask if Wikipedia is under "obligation" to do it, I asked if this could be considered an exception, since Wikipedia's own Manual of Style include a section for "Potential exceptions" for its capitalization rules when there's enough "reliable sources" about it. Actually, the person above mentioned an article that, as far as I know, is currently an exception to those rules ("Star Trek Into Darkness"). JJJAGUAR (talk) 05:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps, JJJAGUAR, you might ask at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. -- Hoary (talk) 08:33, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. JJJAGUAR (talk) 17:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Correct advice has kindly been given. Further discussion belongs on the article talk page(s). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I propose merging Bhopinder Singh into Bhupinder Singh Thakur. These two articles are on the same person. Since there are more content and references in Bhupinder Singh Thakur article, I am requesting the Bhopinder Singh article to merge into Bhupinder Singh Thakur. Behappyyar (talk) 07:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

@Behappyyar To do this, please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Merging. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Bhupinder Singh Thakur, which was started yesterday, should be merged into Bhopinder Singh, which was started in 2007. TSventon (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, it’s not an absolute rule. Exceptions might apply if:

The newer article is significantly better written or sourced.
The older article has serious issues (like POV, original research, etc.).
The topic was split unintentionally, and the newer version is better scoped.

Behappyyar (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Broken reference1

Hello,

Can anyone help me debug the code of this reference?

{{cite news |last= Clerkin |first= Bridget |date= 2012-03-09 |title= Israeli martial arts takes hold in Bordentown |work= Times of Trenton |location= New York, NY |publisher= Advance Publications Inc. |page= B8.

Thanks in advance. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 11:59, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Missing closing }}. Add that.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:12, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 23:50, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Broken reference2

Can anyone help to debug this citation?

Kahn, David (2008). Advanced Krav Maga—The Next Level of Fitness and Self-Defense. New York, NY: St. Martin’s Press. ISBN ‎978-0312361648. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help)

The ISBN is correct. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 12:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

There is an invisible left-to-right-marker character between the space character and the '9' at the start of the isbn. Remove that.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you again. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 23:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Why 'Help-desk' is semi-protected?

I'm just asking, why is this 'Help desk' is protected within semi-protection, as I have already saw it? Isn't this page is no longer in protection in May 12, 2025? I hope any Wikipedia users can answer my question. Thanks. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Many of the help pages are the target of an abusive user, and need to be protected from new users and unregistered users to prevent the abusive user from posting. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:Quote box

Is it possible to get two quotes in the same box, do you think? Something like, using the code at the template page:

{{Quote box |quote = Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war. |author = William Shakespeare |source = Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I. |quote2 = He is a wearer of only one stocking. |author2 = William Shakespeare |source2 = Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III. }}

Obviously that doesn't work. Thoughts? —Fortuna, imperatrix 13:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

@Fortuna imperatrix mundi You can place one box inside another, which might do what you want with a bit of tweaking:

Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war.

William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I.

He is a wearer of only one stocking.

William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III.

Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, Mike Turnbull, although to be honest I wouldn't know how to tweak it, I suspect. Still, thanks anyway! —Fortuna, imperatrix 18:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

@Primefac: Any thoughts, perchance...? —Fortuna, imperatrix 11:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war.

William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I.

He is a wearer of only one stocking.

William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III.

For tweaking, what I had in mind was something like this which is just a <br> different than my previous version. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mike Turnbull , fantastic, many thanks! (And thanks for coming back too!) —Fortuna, imperatrix 11:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

and if you don't like the second box, you can further tweak that using the more advanced features mentioned on the template page, to arrive at yet another version. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war.

William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I.

He is a wearer of only one stocking.

William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III.

Maybe I missed something, but why are we trying to put two quotes in the same box? Primefac (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mike Turnbull That second one squares the circle almost, it looks even better without the other box insde. Not wanting to push it, but... do you think it's possible so that both bits of text are justified to the same left margin, rather than indented as now? Thanks very much for your help, this is a learning curve! —Fortuna, imperatrix 15:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Problem with possibly racist wording

While editing Sacred Heart, Minnesota I noticed the following: "all but three of the white men in the area were killed, as were many of the white women and children. 22 whites were taken captive"

While I can understand the need to clarify between the European American settlers and the Native American perpetrators of the massacre, I feel the wording used is problematic. While I've tried my best to change the wording, I'm still not sure what more I can or should do. Anyone have any advice?

P.S This link shows when it was added to the article https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1194251526&oldid=1165900584&title=Sacred_Heart%2C_Minnesota If that helps. Data Devourer (talk) 00:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I see litle reason to assume racism, and none to justify an accusation of vandalism. Maybe "settler", or "of European ancestry", or "colonizing", would be better that "white". But some such term is needed. Maproom (talk) 07:51, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, that helps clear things up. Data Devourer (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Middleton family

QUOTES: In the "Parents of Michael Middleton" section - Peter Middleton is quoted. Please place the quote in the way it is normally done - indented - on wikipedia pages.

Also

in the "Nursing and welfare" section Caroline Middleton is quoted - please structure the quote in the way this is usually done on wikipdeia.

Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 01:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, simply use <blockquote> at the start of the quotation and </blockquote> after the reference that I presume immediately follows the quotation. -- Hoary (talk) 03:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

...or use {{Blockquote}}, which does the same thing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:08, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Add topic button

How can i include the Add Topic button in my document? This help desk also has an Add Topic button.Whatback11 (talk) 08:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Whatback11 To which "document" are you referring? A "new section" tab is automatically added to Talk pages. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:43, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Whatback11: "Add topic" is part of "Enable quick topic adding" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. If you have it on some pages then it must already be enabled and there is no more you can do. It's only available on pages meant for discussions. Not drafts if that's what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Above the header of this page is an “Add topic” button, which seems to be a syntactical way to add it. Whatback11 (talk) 13:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Mentally fatigued

I wrote an article on Predicativism, philosophical topic, after a lot of research and mental fatigue, I wrote an article in most jargon way possible in my knowledge. I did everything to cite every single source and even edited to meet every WK criteria. The page about the predicativism, opposite of Impredicative and I have used every thing possible to make it right.

An editor, with what they say "I am 1000 year old editor and I have voldemort stick of death" deleted the 18000 characters article and did not even bother me to at least ask where i can fix or improve it. Yeah yeah, I that got you have experience of how to maintain this platform safe but WK is not your personal property (thanks to CC license) nor you are supposed to have experience on how to write a deep and good article on maths and philosophy which I have. Because the person @Onel5969, (I am not targeting anyone) I dont think have even knowledge on subject of precativism or he even knows what is it.

I dont know how to act, I am already depressed and find few times to use my curiosity of life to put it in words. I want to just get help if I can. Please I need somebody who is not mixed up because most of "admins" are family type so even some of them act injustice their family member will help him.

Lets say I am wrong in my defense please do not cancel me, I am just an editor. Please use your authority in a way that a serious editor respect not turn against you.

P.S. I am sorry if i sound noisy, the moment i am writing it i am feeling very sleepy (I havent slept for two days). Wh67890 (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

You seem to be suffering some distress. We can sympathise, but we can't really help. Please see meta:Mental health resources. I hope you soon feel rested. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Haha! Well you missed the real problem. Also when i said Mental fatigue I meant that I feel hurt from the editor behaviour not seriously ill. Wh67890 (talk) 13:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

You wrote "I am already depressed... I havent slept for two days". If I've misunderstood that, and things are not that bleak for you, I'm glad.

As to your feelings about editor behaviour, please follow the process described at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

He is not responding and simply reverting his edit wont make things easier. I want a third party here. Forget the depresson part, I am here because the deletion was not accurately done. If he has problem with editing criteria, he could have pinged me or not.

I am here for third party, because in WK the idea of trying to talk face-to-face does not fly. Wh67890 (talk) 14:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

If you want a third party opinion, you can go here. I also advise you to read WP:AGF and keep it in mind. CoconutOctopus talk 14:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I respect for your humble approach on health issue and I appreciate it but right now its not about me but for WIkipedia. Wh67890 (talk) 14:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Wh67890.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

I realise that you did not in one sense create this article; but this is relevant because, as people often do who have not spent a lot of time learning what Wikipedia is and what it isn't. you have put great effort into producing something that is not a Wikipedia article; and by replacing a redirect you circumvented the articles for creation process, which is very strongly advised for new editors.

I entirely agree with @Onel5969 in pointing you to WP:ESSAY, and I would also mention original research.

A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what reliable independent sources have said about a topic, and very little else. It should not contain any argumentation or conclusions, except possibly for summaries of the arguments or conclusions advanced in a single cited source (It should not even combine the argumentation or conclusions of more than one source, as that would be synthesis, which is a form of original research and not permitted).

Your version of the article may have salvageable parts, but in particular the "Critical evaluation" is absolutely not appropriate for any Wikipedia article. (Note that your version is not lost: it is still in the history, so you could recover it and see if any of it is suitable). ColinFine (talk) 15:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

So you mean the better option is to delete the person's hardwork and not upgrade or improve the article? And I dont see any strong reason for restricting new editors for editing Wikipedia. I think you mean the experience and I have quite a experience onto that subject. I have actually reverted his edit and I am going to improve it rather than let somebody who have 0% knowledge about the topic delete it.

Thank you but your help is an excuse not an actual help. Wh67890 (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

No, @Wh67890, the better option is to accept that what you are trying to do, worthy as it may be, is not what Wikipedia does, and either start again and produce an article which does conform to Wikipedia's policies (and, again, I would very strongly advise you to use the WP:AFC process); or find a different outlet which will accept the kind of article you want to write.

I also advise you that edit warring is a very quick way of getting yourself blocked from Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 16:15, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and moved your article to a draft to allow you to work on bringing it up to Wikipedia's standards in a more suitable location whilst avoiding risks of an edit war. Once you believe it to be ready I strongly reccommend submitting it through WP:AFC. CoconutOctopus talk 16:31, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

They aren't completely correct to delete your page, it should've been moved to draftspace or your Special:MyPage/sandbox and explained why. However, whenever you make an edit on Wikipedia, it will always be there in the page history. Even if the entire page is deleted, you can still get it WP:REFUNDed. Next time, don't be so stressed out when your edit is reverted because you can always just find it, it is not deleted but hidden. Furthermore, your article does not meet the standards of Wikipedia in the sense that it contains original research and that it does not cite your sources correctly. This is entirely fine and is to be expected of someone who is new to Wikipedia. As others have stated, you could do other things to become more familiar with Wikipedia. However, some editors like yourself are motivated by certain topics or articles. If you want to immediately make an article, you should read WP:YFA to learn how to create your first article and WP:PERFECT to learn what a perfect article is. Easternsahara (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Thats exactly what I was trying to say, "Why delete it?". The article was neat in its own standard, but yes I agree it did not meet certain Wikipedia term (and i respect it), I read it again and yes it is bit akward. But there must be a forward look on how to fix it rather than deleting it without any liability, mostly because a person put an effort into it.

Thankyou so much for understanding and yes I will fix every possible issue and try to publish it through WP:AFC as many people recommended it. Have a good day!! Wh67890 (talk) 02:07, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Some admins on Wikipedia may be rash sometimes. They both tend to follows rules but sometimes they don't give explanations to new editors, this can be very frustrating. If you have anymore questions you can keep coming to the teahouse or ask your mentor, have a good day/night. Easternsahara (talk) 02:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much but people keep posting humility filled comment, this is very frustrating and uneasy as I am not used to such discussions. Wh67890 (talk) 03:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Article already exists in draftspace, however, article gets recreated in article space

So if an article is already being drafted in the draftspace, but another user (could even be the same user) created another article with the same name in the article space, what action should be taken? Do we merge these together? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 15:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

That is tangentially discussed here. Merging the articles is certainly one option and easy if one/both pages have a single primary contributor. Otherwise, a more complicated history merge might be required. – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:42, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Need assistance on talk page

Hi all. I'm having troubling getting rid of a preformatted text from an archive bot on the site which left a notice on my talk page. I'd like to leave the archived pages up for later review, but it's basically just creating a running style box that won't end, and just keeps moving further and further to the right with each new addition. You can see for yourself at my talk page here. Let me know if you have any questions. In short, all I need is someone to separate those three styles boxes/headers at the bottom from each other into different header sections on the page. All my best and appreciation in advance.

Regards - CSGinger14 (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Additionally, it would be fine to keep the archived articles all under the same banner. It might prompt the bot to put it there in the future. Really I just need the bottom header, the gift, to be separated as I can't find any way to make any new additions without it falling under the styling box.

Thanks again - CSGinger14 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

The problem was |} not being there, closing the style thingamabob (can't remember what its called). fixed it for you :) Trim02 (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

It's called a table, me Trim02 (talk) 17:33, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Question about user

Hello! I was on SWViewer and saw this user created. User:STRI-Library
This user claims the following
This is the official account of the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute Library and Archive (STRI), based in Panama. It is operated by library staff for the purpose of curating and improving content related to STRI, tropical science, and knowledge production in the tropics. How exactly should they verify that they are in fact the official account? Do they even need to verify? Thanks! Cooldudeseven7 _talk ^contribs 13:53, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The account is likely unusable per Wikipedia:ORGNAME Bremps... 14:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Cooldudeseven7: the name STRI-Library implies that the account is shared by a team, which is confirmed by the user page. This is not allowed under Wikipedia:Username policy#Usernames implying shared use. I am not aware of a requirement to verify identity. TSventon (talk) 14:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I am putting a warning using Twinkle on their userpage right now... I will try to get this to UAA, as this appears to be a blatant policy violation. _talk ^contribs 14:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) WP:UAA says either leave a warning or go to UAA, not both simultaneously. I think a warning was reasonable as all they have done is create a user page. TSventon (talk) 14:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! the warning has been placed. Cooldudeseven7 _talk ^contribs 14:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I thought that there should be a guide to which welcome mesages to give new users, but I couldn't find it. TSventon (talk) 15:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: Edit: I have created a template here based off of {{Welcome}}. Does it work as a warning? Should it replace the warning template or just go alongside it? I also added a parameter for adding reasoning and examples of violation. Just wanted to check if this works before I add it to the page. Cooldudeseven7 _talk ^contribs 16:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cooldudeseven7:, I prefer {{Uw-coi-username}} because it explains what the problem is and what the user needs to do and doesn't move on to general advice about editing, which is not relevant until they deal with the immediate issue. However, I don't regularly welcome new users so perhaps someone else will chip in or you could ask for feedback at Wikipedia talk:Welcoming committee. TSventon (talk) 16:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Alright. Should I keep the current username warning or the COI template? Cooldudeseven7 _talk_/_contribs 16:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I would leave the page as it is and keep it on your (and Naraht's) watchlist. The Uw-coi-username includes a link to the paid editing policy and the conflict of interest guideline, which {{Template:Uw-username}} doesn't. TSventon (talk) 17:04, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Cooldudeseven7 _talk_/_contribs 17:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm definitely assuming good faith here, and it looks like they would want to work on both enwiki and eswiki, so I left an additional note.Naraht (talk) 15:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree that we should AGF and that adding a human written message was helpful. TSventon (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

IABot not working?

Hi all. I am trying to use #IABot, but it isn't archiving all references on some pages, like 2025 Pakistan Super League and X Dekho. Can anyone please help, why this happens and how to resolve? Thank you! M. Billoo 14:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I am facing this problem for around one year. I guess it is some kind of glitch or technical difficulty. In that case, you need to archive every missing links from web.archive.org and add them to cite template of references just by adding "archive-url", "archive-date" and "url-status" parameters manually. I hope one day IAbot will work perfectly. Mehedi Abedin 04:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Error message

When I try to visit Category:Fiction set around Aldebaran I get an error message: "Internal error. [dd92d5c5-7df8-49e0-8518-f9a34d709ef2] 2025-05-20 19:25:38: Fatal exception of type "Wikibase\DataModel\Services\Lookup\EntityLookupException" Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Did you try again? Transient errors sometimes occur. You only need to report it (see WP:Phabricator) if it persists. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Obvious notable subject, all data looks correct, but all refs broken because it was written by AI. What do we do?

An editor recently created a bunch of articles on the various terms of West Bengal Legislative Assembly, which makes it an obviously notable subject. On the top, you'd think that these have a bunch of refs, but none of them actually work because these were written by AI. How do we approach here? Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 19:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:TNT seems to be viable if there's no salvageable human-written material. Wikipedia is not AI generated. Departure– (talk) 19:37, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Request move: Sitaare Zameen Par

Few days back, I came across this topic Sitaare Zameen Par (film) and saw this edit. Why this page title is not simply Sitaare Zameen Par?

That latter page is already inactive/redirect as per notability issues, why shouldn't that be like Sitaare Zameen Par (XYZ TV show), or maybe delete it whole to avoid page history overlap?

Please someone look into this, thank you! M. Billoo 22:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The why question is fairly easy to answer. Sitaare Zameen Par was created in 2008, it wasm't disambiguated as there was no other article with the title. The page was converted to a redirect in 2023, "perWP:GNG". Sitaare Zameen Par (film) was created in 2024 with disambiguation as there was an existing page.

One solution could be to move Sitaare Zameen Par to Sitaare Zameen Par (TV series) (XTV is not needed per WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE). Then Sitaare Zameen Par (film) could be moved to Sitaare Zameen Par, possibly using WP:Requested moves/Technical requests. TSventon (talk) 09:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Both pages now moved as I suggested. Also, incoming wikilinks have been updated. TSventon (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Pushpin map not showing

I added the pushpin map for the article Luve, but it is not showing. can anyone help? 派對 (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@派對: I fixed the format, the map wanted degrees, minutes and seconds divided by "|" rather than ".". TSventon (talk) 09:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, for some reason the article had a {{coord}} template with incorrect coordinates that were displaying in the title position. I've removed that. Deor (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. 派對 (talk) 12:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

article submission question

for some reason, i can't submit my article draft. Please tell me why. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Rafaelthegreat I've added the relevant template, so there is now a submission button you can use. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

thank you! I have submitted it. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 16:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Roundhay

Reference number 19 is in red - please fix if you are able. Thank youSrbernadette (talk) 05:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Srbernadette, what do you mean in red? Looking at source 19, there is an error in that the year is written as "20255" with an extra 5. CMD (talk) 06:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, we are told "Check date values in: |access-date=". That's a hint to check the date value specified by "access-date". (No, I don't know why it's pluralized. But I suppose that "date-value", rather than plain "date", is supposed to encompass the matter of how the date is specified. Thus for example "MMCCV" would be improper, even though semantically correct.) CMD has kindly checked it for you. Now you can correct it. -- Hoary (talk) 06:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Violation of 1RR

Where do I report against a user who violated WP:1RR rule in an article that falls under WP:CTOP? King Ayan Das (talk) 15:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I'd guess Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement or, barring that, ANI. Departure– (talk) 15:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

What the above said, although please remember that General Sanctions can be a little confusing, so its worth reminding people of the rules before reporting them. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:07, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

This user has already violated! King Ayan Das (talk) 15:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

"Page Size" and "Who Wrote That?" tools not working on James Cook article

I frequently use the WP:Prosesize gadget (aka Page Size tool) and the WP:Who_Wrote_That? tool from my tool menu (the page size tool required enabling a gadget in my Preferences; the latter tool required installing a JS script). I've used both tools on many articles.

Neither tool works on the James Cook article. I don't think the issue is my computer, because I've tried the tools on several computers, and they don't work on any computer. The problem is only with that one article.

Can someone try the WP:Prosesize tool on James Cook and see if it works for them. Also, try the Who Wrote That? tool if you have it. If it fails for you: can anyone suggest a change to James Cook article to get the tools working? Noleander (talk) 04:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Noleander Both work for me™. There was an unclosed sfn in the article which seems to have prevented some of the paragraphs from working with "who wrote that?", but after fixing that, I see no issues. Trim02 (talk) 04:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Trim02: Thanks for taking the time to investigate.

Tools still not working for me, even after fetching your change. Did it fail for you _before_ you made that sfn fix?

A new data point: the "Who wrote that?" tool _does_ work for me in web browser before I log into WP. After I log in, it does not work. So perhaps it is some configuration/gadget setting within my Preferences? But why would the tools only fail on the James Cook article? Noleander (talk) 04:50, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Noleander No, they worked before the change. The paragraph where the sfn was didn't load in "wwt?" correctly, but the rest of the article did.
I can't think of any reason why "wwt?" works logged out but not logged in, since it's a browser extension it shouldn't interact with your account in any form. And it's only James Cook?
Only thing I can think of is to disable both of the tools, and force reload/empty cache and reenable them. Maybe close your browser and reopen, they might have entered a bad state or something, I dunno :/ Trim02 (talk) 05:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

This problem only happens on the James Cook article. I've tried both tools on dozens of other articles and they all work fine.

I don't think the sfn issue you fixed is related, it only impacted one paragraph. The failure I'm seeing is: absolutely nothing happens when you click the tool. Noleander (talk) 05:19, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Noleander, this question may be better suited to Village pump/technical. Cullen328 (talk) 05:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

posted at VPT. Noleander (talk) 06:26, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

It would have been too easy if it was just a single malformed template breaking stuff... Does any errors pop up in the console? (F12) If not, I've (unfortunately) got nothing else to suggest except to disable, reload and reenable.
Or ask at VP/T as Cullen suggests. Trim02 (talk) 05:31, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

How Would I Be Able To Upload This Photo To Wikipedia Commons

I have been trying to get the hold of freely licensed files on the Wikipedia Commons but it seems like they all get deleted due to not being a freely-licensed file (even though the website where I get them from says it can be used on web pages).

I have a new photo from Flickr I would like to upload but fear I will run into the same issue.

I contacted the owner of the photo who has given me permission via Flickr to use his file and said he would not mind sending Wikipedia an email giving me permission to use his file.

He also changed the license of the photo to a more relaxed one.

How could I use this file without it being deleted?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/iimacadam/52396710801/in/dateposted/

Thank you all! NightExplorer96 (talk) 16:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@NightExplorer96 Questions about Commons should be directed to Commons. Some useful links: COM:FAQ, COM:License. That said, the image you linked is under cc by-nc-nd which is forbidden on Commons Trim02 (talk) 16:28, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay. I had the picture owner change the license to a sharealike license.

Would it be appropriate now? :)

It is now this:

- Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic

Thank you for all the help! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I actually followed one of the link another gave to me and favorited the page all about the Wikipedia Commons licensing policies!

According to it the new ShareAlike License is good to upload!

Thank you! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:54, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@NightExplorer96: You having the permission is completely meaningless as you are not hosting it. Commons would need the permission, and Commons does not accept the Non-commercial (NC) or No Derivatives (ND) prongs for Creative Commons licences as those restrict what one can do with the image. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:16, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay. I had the picture owner change the license to a sharealike license.

Would it be appropriate now? :)

It is now this:

- Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic

Thank you for all the help! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I actually followed one of the link another gave to me and favorited the page all about the Wikipedia Commons licensing policies!

Thank you! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

You may show your Flickr contact this page, which explains what licences are suitable: WP:IfSM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Okay. I had the picture owner change the license to a sharealike license.

Would it be appropriate now? :)

It is now this:

- Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic

Thank you for all the help! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@NightExplorer96 Afaict by [11], that license is acceptable. You'll of course have to wait until your Commons-block expires. And don't upload it as "own work", since per what you say here, the picture is not your own work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I actually followed one of the link another gave to me and favorited the page all about the Wikipedia Commons licensing policies!

Thank you! NightExplorer96 (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Please help my draft

My draft Draft:Salish Matter has been declined. If you want to, please help me edit my Wikipedia. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

This one is going nowhere as it is basically a promo piece for a non-notable person. Before asking for help here, please read Your first article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Rafaelthegreat. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else. Unless you can find several sources which meet those criteria, there cannot be an article. ColinFine (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Disambiguation Help

Hi all! I was trying to make a page for Ohio State Rep. Karen Brownlee (Ohio politician), but "Karen Brownlee" redirected to another politician with the same spelling Karin Brownlee. I ended up adding a disambiguation page here, but Im not sure if I did it correctly. Could someone look over it for me?

Thank you! :) Aricds (talk) 05:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. CMD (talk) 06:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Aricds (talk) 06:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Unnecessarily complex, in my [adjective] opinion. Instead, "Karen Brownlee" could be about Karen Brownlee; "Karin Brownlee" could be about Karin Brownlee; each article could have a hatnote pointing out the existence of the other. (Cf Morris Bishop and Maurice Bishop.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I need help

Additional advice has been given at WP:COIN#Sunil Dutt. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I have corrected and arranged all the information for actor-politician Sunil Dutt's page. Please check it. Moreover, please let me know if it is verified or not because the maintenance tag was attached since March 2025 plus, some editors disturb the page by removing references or do some modifications. Gooshh (talk) 17:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

A lot of your edits seem dedicated to puffing up his significance and adding unreliable sources. Those editors, by and large, have been improving it from your less impartial versions. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Miss Star International

Hi, help desk regulars! Hope you're doing well. I am kindly asking for more eyes on Miss Star International (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), please. An editor—who has stated they are the executive director on the article talk and their user talk—has restored blatantly promotional language to the article. I do not know if my schedule for the foreseeable future leaves me enough time to fix the article, issue a second warning, walk them through proper procedure, and answer any questions. I know we are all volunteers here, so I greatly appreciate whatever help you give. Happy editing! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Reverted, blocked them as spam-only. I think we're done here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

In future, you may make such reports at WP:COIN - but note the requirements for prior discussion and notification at the top of that page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Help on a film article

Hi all. I just noticed that actress Jenna Ortega's article is a GA. For that reason, I am trying to expand the article of her film too, and I have left a note on its talk page: Talk:Winter Spring Summer or Fall. I need some guidance and help, thank you! M. Billoo 20:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I've left some comments on the article's talk page but haven't attempted to respond to a number of the points you raise. Responses by others would be helpful (I think better posted there rather than here). -- Hoary (talk) 22:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Years of Award ceremony

Hello! I am editing Golden Eagle Award (Russia) and I noticed that Years of Award at Russian wiki page is numbered by year when Award ceremony took place (basically 2025 year AC awarded films from 2024), but in English Wikipedia Award Ceremony' years numbered by previous year(so not 2025 when it took place, nut 2024). Mb bcs at this official Russian award page outised Wikipedia it is called Nominees for 2024 year, but actual award took place next, 2025 year. Sorry for complicated explanation. So my question is: Can I move dates one year forward and numbered it by year in which AC takes place? Or it is better leave like it is now? Илона И (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Илона И: The page Golden Eagle Award (Russia) has no 2024 or 2025. I guess you refer to other pages in Category:Golden Eagle Awards (Russia) but most of them also have no 2024 or 2025. Please always link the page your question is actually about. Give an example if there are multiple pages. Wikipedia languages are edited independently. I don't know the Russian Wikipedia and it doesn't matter to us. We usually list the year of the films in film awards. This is sometimes stated explicitly. If your unidentified pages don't say it then you could add it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @PrimeHunter I plan to update them all to last year, I updated for now only Golden Eagle Award for Best Leading Actor (Russia) till last year. So last year I updated was 2024 (year when nominated films were filmed), but ceremony for awarding these films was earlier this, 2025, year. Илона И (talk) 10:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Илона И: For a list like Golden Eagle Award for Best Leading Actor (Russia)#Nomineess and Awardees we give the year of the film and rarely mention this. You could mention it once at the start of the section if you want to avoid the risk of confusion. Don't change it to be the ceremony year. The lead says "choose three leading actors and the film as a perception". I don't know what that means. Maybe "perception" is a bad translation from Russian. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Ok noted. Thank you for advice Илона И (talk) 12:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Reference link of actor's works

Hello, can I use same article/interview of actor as reference link, confirming he indeed was in several works in his/her wikipedia article and add it as ref link at several works at his/her Wikipage?

Or I need to use several different reference links?

It is just this actor is supportive one and don't have many reliable sources. Илона И (talk) 22:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Илона И: As a rule, credits do not need a citation barring an uncredited or pseudonymous appearance; the credits listing itself would instantly verify their participation. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano so roles of actor doesn't need reference links?

I thought it needed bcs in list of roles someone put tag Citation needed.

Or we need to add this actor in Cast list of this work at Wiki and put reference link here? Илона И 23:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ranjani Shettar

Ranjani Shettar

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Herohcreatives (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC) I am not quite clear on what you said, can you narrow it down to the edit you are talking about?

In your edit above, Herohcreatives, you have provided a link to an edit that you made. But presumably your intention wasn't to ask about the meaning of what you wrote. What are you asking about? -- Hoary (talk) 05:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

I was asking for the specific link, but I have figured it out. Please check it out if I have made the right correction. Thanks for your keen observation Herohcreatives (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Language Options

Re: What a MESS Wikipedia's Language Options is in...! Who do I "Report" it to & WHAT CAN BE DONE about REMEDYING it?

As a multi-language speaker, I've reently accessed the Wiki page at the following linh [for the insect: weevil]: Weevil & at that page's more upper right-hand side saw the Drop-Menu button listing 49 languages. I've clicked on it & was HORRIFIED [in a state of DISBELIED, literally!] at what appeared to me to be a COMPLETE CHAOS & state of GEOGRAPHICAL IGNORANCE. AK63 (talk) 09:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@AK63: I don't know what you are unhappy with but some languages are included in multiple regions where they are common in some of the region. It may for example seem odd that Chinese is listed under America but it's also under Asia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@AK63: I'm not sure what disturbs you about the available languages, it seems to me like maybe you have the wrong idea about the selection of foreign languages for a given article, let me try at an explanation.

Most people using English wikipedia (enwiki) have English as the language they're most familiar with. However, for any given article on enwiki, there may be corresponding versions of that article on other language wikis. These articles are generally independent (though in some cases, the text may have been computer-translated).

As long as you're on enwiki, your navigation tools (e.g. search) will only search those articles that exist on enwiki. If for some reason you're curious how it shows up on (for instance) German Wikipedia (dewiki), and if the article exists on dewiki, you are free to look at that or however many other foreign-language versions exist. If you don't know German and your browser supports machine translation to your preferred language, that's your choice.

The much greater value of having articles in other languages is when a person using enwiki wants to access an article that does not exist on enwiki but does exist in some other language, then (if an interlanguage wikilink has been provided), you can access that Wikipedia article in that other language. If it's a language you're familiar with, great! If not, you can use your browser's machine translation to view it. In effect, you have access to many articles that aren't available on enwiki thanks to someone having provided an interlanguage link to an article that's not available on enwiki. (You can also search for these other-language articles manually, but you wouldn't automatically know that the article even existed on another language wiki.) Fabrickator (talk) 07:23, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Trouble with Obstructive Editing

I'm having trouble with two editors who are obstructing my ability to edit a page, forcing extremely long discussions, with no evidence of compromising.

Whenever I make an edit, based on our months-long discussion, in an effort to advance the WP:BRD cycle, my edits are reverted with minimal discussion and often weeks between responses.

here's the page: Nerdeen_Kiswani (yeesh, this I/P conflict, amiright?)

I know this is a controversial topic, so I'm trying to assume good faith, but it's been several months without any forward progress. The page is not popular enough to attract attention from other editors.

I've been a wikipedian for 20 years, but I'm new to controversy, so I'm not totally sure how to handle this.

Any advice would be appreciated! DuckOfOrange (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

@Iamnotanorange~enwiki I'm not sure that nominating the article for deletion is the correct way forward but since you have done so this will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nerdeen_Kiswani. A more normal way to handle content disputes via talk pages is described at WP:DR. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

The nomination for deletion is separate from the dispute and obstructive editing. I've been re-thinking the notoriety of the subject and whether it meets our standards.

I'll pursue the WP:DR separately, thank you. DuckOfOrange (talk) 19:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Note prior discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive349#Iamnotanorange~enwiki. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello! magazine: reliable?

Hello! magazine has turned up as a source for the article Royal Family Order of Charles III and there is uncertainty as to whether it is reliable. Is it reliable and cited, at least on public appearances of the British Royal Family? J S Ayer (talk) 04:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Probably not, but it's not clear. It only seems to have been discussed once at WP:RSN, five years ago: WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 267#Hello! Magazine. ColinFine (talk) 09:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello! is a tabloid gossip magazine. I can think of few circumstances where it would even need consideration as a source. Why does an article on Royal Orders (formally-bestowed honours within the British honours system) need to cite such a source? What specific text is it being cited to support? AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@J S Ayer The article Royal family orders of the United Kingdom certainly needs more sources/citations but surely there must be better ones than Hello! (magazine)? The "!" is a sort of give-away. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

The order is unofficial, and the needed citation would be a photograph of Queen Camilla wearing it. J S Ayer (talk) 00:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

It is rarely appropriate to cite a photograph. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Is something fishy with Alan Pell Crawford?

Alan Pell Crawford

I looked up the author who received a laudatory reference added to Huck's Defeat in January:

"A fine retelling of this battle is Crawford, Alan Pell (2024). This Fierce People: The Untold Story of America's Revolutionary War in the South."

The article about that author, Alan Pell Crawford, struck me as promotional so I looked at some of the article's statistics. It was created on 2010 January 5 by "Greaterric". Three users accounted for more than 80% of the characters in the article.

Account User:Greaterric was also created on 2010 January 5. There were 11 edits via this account, all on Alan Pell Crawford. The account hasn't been used since 2010 January 22.

Account User:Jeffarazzi was created on 2019 May 10 and made major changes to Alan Pell Crawford the same day. That seems to be the only edit made from that account.

Account User:Shizshunt was created on 2024 June 25 and subsequently made 18 edits, all on July 3 and none since. Of those, 10 edits were on Alan Pell Crawford and the remainder on Mickey Bergman and Margalit Fox.

There are no user pages for Jeffarazzi or Shizshunt. Greaterric directs to Alan Pell Crawford !

I am far from expert in the workings of Wikipedia so I'm just posting something which seems curious to me and asking if any action is needed.

Humpster (talk) 05:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I've removed that promotional reference. It's not clear that it was actually being used as a ref, or that it was needed in the lead. The same user also added the book as further reading, so it is still mentioned in the article. As for the throwaway accounts, there's not much to be done except to check their input for WP:POV and sourcing.

user:Greaterric redirects to the article because the user incorrectly drafted the article there before moving it to article space. I will tag it for deletion. Meters (talk) 05:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

In future, you can make such reports at WP:COIN, but note the requirements stated there for prior discussion, and notifying those involved (which should also be done when reporting here). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Block quotation in a footnote

Explanatory footnotes (whether or not made via Template:Efn) should aim for concision, and block indentation is only for long quotations. So yes, the notion that a footnote might contain a block quotation may seem wrongheaded. Still, if one is using Template:Efn and does feel compelled to perpetrate this, how is it best achieved?

.... blah blah blah body text.{{Efn|As Wigglesworth himself expressed this:{{Sfnp|Wigglesworth|1956|p=23}}{{Blockquote|text=Blah blah blah quotation....}}}}

results in a block quotation -- but one that's in a font larger than that of "As Wigglesworth himself expressed this:". (Replacing {{Blockquote| with {{Blockquote|style=font-size:80%| has no visible effect [Firefox under Debian].) -- Hoary (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

You may get more specialised help if you ask at WP:VPT. You'll need to say which skin you're using. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

About wikidata template

Hi all, I want to ask a question. Is there any way to fetch both stable and preview releases from Wikidata using {{wikidata}}. There is an example on the {{infobox software}} documentation, but probably doesn't work. Karacehennem (talk) 12:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

In the example at {{Infobox software}} the wikidata template in the parameter latest preview version is set to {{wikidata|property|preferred|references|edit|Q8038|P348|P548=Q51930650}}, which as there is no pre-release version set to the preferred rank on the wikidata item, nothing shows up. So long as the wikidata item is correct (and you're fetching the right stuff), the template should work Trim02 (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Richard Molesworth, 3rd Viscount Molesworth

I have added a file which is of an old terrace house - it is way to big. I'm sorry, please repair the size. The caption should read - "Molesworth's Terrace House - 14 Henrietta Street, Dublin" thanks Srbernadette (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Done Maproom (talk) 11:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

The Treachery of Images

...or, "Ceci n'est pas un pipe". Painted by René Magritte in 1929; now in the U.S. public domain as 95 years have now passed (with the EU getting their turn in 2038 per life + 70). However, it is currently tagged on enWP as a non-free work. I planned to make a filing on the matter at WP:FFD minutes ago; correct me if there's a different place to challenge the status. (H/T Jafar Panahi § This Is Not a Film (2011) [h/t last night's MSN wires on his Palme d'Or].) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2025_January_3#File:MagrittePipe.jpg * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:58, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Where's the table with each WP's content-only character count or ASCII or Unicode bytes?

Only article text not the longer wikitext or anything non-article like other namespaces, other text like the words that say what links here, stuff you can only see when signed in etc. I can't find it again. Each cell was colored. Also what's the talk page for www.wikipedia.org NOT en.wikipedia.org (Talk:Main Page) I saw it once & can't find it again. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:36, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Sagittarian Milky Way: Maybe you are thinking of Wikipedia:Prosesize and meta:Talk:www.wikipedia.org template. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Probably readable prose. I saw a (Wikimedia?) table with tons of colored cells one for each month of each language. Yes that was it thanks. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:27, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia page Language change

Hi,

There is a company page https://w.wiki/EFep which was in English earlier. Someone changed the language of this page to Hindi.

Can someone help how I can change it back to English as the page belong to a MNC and should be in English Love.eclerx (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Is this a request for help somewhere in en.wikipedia.org, Love.eclerx? If so, please rephrase it. (And if not, you're asking at the wrong place.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Hoary The page actually belong to en.wikipedia.org but someone changed the language to Hindi and now it is showing content in Hindi language. I am trying to move it back to English.

So I need help in en.wikipedia.org Love.eclerx (talk) 06:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Love.eclerx: The url points to hi.wikipedia.org, so the page is on the Hindi Wikipedia. The article on the Hindi Wikipedia was a translation of the article EClerx (which was deleted on 4 May 2025) from this Wikipedia (the English Wikipedia). Trim02 (talk) 07:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes @Trim02 That's the concern. Someone translated the article in Hindi and deleted the English version.

Any wayout to restore the english versions? Love.eclerx (talk) 07:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Eclerx and EClerx have been repeatedly deleted for nearly 20 years, twice by discussion 1, 2. A version was restored to userspace for improvement but no improvement has taken place. It looks nowhere near to meeting the requirements of WP:NORG and would probably be deleted again if it were to appear in mainspace. Cabayi (talk) 08:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia languages are edited independently. The English Wikipedia has no control over the Hindi Wikipedia and it doesn't affect us if they once translated an English language. I don't know their article requirements and it doesn't matter to us. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

help

is there any good sources for new wikipedians like me to learn about, like the rules of wikipedia, and editing rules? thanks, Tamtwothousandandtwo (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Tamtwothousandandtwo. Welcome to Wikipedia. Would Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure be a good place to start? It can give you a flavour of what editing Wikipedia is like. Knitsey (talk) 19:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

yes, i will give this a try Tamtwothousandandtwo (talk) 19:44, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I've also added a Welcome message to your talk page which has some links that might help. Knitsey (talk) 19:45, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Tables

I have a specific question and a more general one:

In a table like this: User:AndyJones/Shakespeare Settings Table Sandbox how do I merge cells vertically. In this example I'd want one merged cell in the first column, spanning the first five rows, saying "All's Well That Ends Well" rather than five separate cells saying the same thing. Feel free to edit my sandbox and I'll see what you've done, if that's easier than explaining here.
Is there somewhere where all the syntax for tables is explained, where I could have found this answer for myself? Or a tutorial covering it?

AndyJones (talk) 12:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

See Help:Table § Colspan and rowspan at Help:Table.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Brilliant! Exactly what I needed. Thank you @Trappist the monk:. AndyJones (talk) 13:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@AndyJones: I dislike VisualEditor for most things but it's very easy to merge cells. Mark them, click Merge, that's it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Useful to know. Many thanks. AndyJones (talk) 12:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

LLM generated article

Hi. Is there a way to report an article which I suspect has been completely rewritten using an LLM? aps (talk) 03:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

AaronPassion: Yes (sadly), there is a maintenance template {{AI-generated}} which will categorise the article in Category:Articles containing suspected AI-generated texts, and a series of user warning templates starting at {{Uw-ai1}}. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 05:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Christopher Bullock (civil servant)

Reference numbers 49 and 50 are also newspaper reports - please can they be added to the newspaper report section at the bottom of the article. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

PRIDE, I do not have

I will never ever donate again after seeing your PRIDE logo on the site! 76.118.166.3 (talk) 21:31, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the heads up. --Onorem (talk) 21:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Don't tell us, tell the Foundation that actually collects the money. But this is a respectful environment for all races, nationalities, genders, etc. If that's not your cup of tea, don't let the door hit you on the way out. 331dot (talk) 23:24, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

G11 speedy deletion tag on a cleaned-up draft

Hello,

I am the author of this draft: Draft:Exposure-based modeling of operational risk.

It was initially tagged for speedy deletion (G11) due to a promotional tone, which I acknowledge. However, I have since entirely restructured and rewritten the page to adopt a neutral, encyclopedic tone, with references to independent and reliable sources. The article has also been resubmitted through the Articles for Creation process.

Despite this, the G11 tag is still displayed at the top of the page, along with a "Submission declined" banner, even though a yellow "Review waiting" notice appears as well.

Could someone please review the current version and remove the outdated G11 tag if appropriate?

Thank you very much! Patnaim (talk) 16:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I have declined the proposed speedy deletion. 331dot (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review and decline the speedy deletion request on my draft. I appreciate your consideration and will continue to improve the article to meet Wikipedia's standards. Patnaim (talk) 17:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Question

are article headers supposed to be sourced? TheVeryHungrySponge (talk) 14:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Assuming you are talking about the lines like "Question" about your post: No, but their information/content should be congruent with the content of the article section they contain. If you mean the top section of a page, also usually no per WP:LEADCITE. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:12, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Display issue on category

Can someone take a look at Category:Writers from Dublin (city)? Something's wrong at the top. Geoffroi 17:30, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Looks fine from here. Please purge your cache and try again. If the issue persists, tell us in more detail what you see. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:14, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Here's a screenshot: File:Screenshot of display issue.png. It looks like this in Firefox and Adblock browser on Android. It looks a little better in Chrome, but it's still a long narrow strip. Geoffroi 18:37, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffroi: It happens because Module:All Ireland by county category navigation says:

local tableMaxWidth="calc(100% - 25em)" -- Template:GeoGroup has width: 23em

The idea with - 25em is apparently to leave room to the right for {{GeoGroup}} in pages like Category:Castles in County Dublin. It looks fine on my desktop screen but it works very poorly in narrow windows where GeoGroup isn't displayed to the right anyway and you just waste a lot of space. The module creator is blocked. Pinging the most recent editor HouseBlaster. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Should be

Fixed. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 23:59, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Summary won’t show up

I attempted to add "Donald Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge" to DeStorm Power#Notable videos and collaborations, but in the preview, the episode summary was nonexistent. Note that I copy-pasted the format from the entry for Shaka Zulu vs. Julius Caesar because I don't know how to write in that template. Yyannako (talk) 14:51, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Yyannako: You have to save your code somewhere so we can see what's wrong with it. If it doesn't damage the article in preview then just save it there. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:24, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Alright. It's saved. Yyannako (talk) 03:34, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

@Yyannako: That was tricky. The entry you copied from had an invalid parameter |[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm_2dGzqp0]. The equals sign in an unnamed parameter means it's actually interpreted as a named parameter [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v assigned the value oOm_2dGzqp0]. {{Episode list}} obviously has no such parameter and it was ignored. Your adaptation said |[https://youtube.com/cP6VqB4klpQ] without an equals sign. Now it's a real unnamed parameter but the template has a special feature. An unnamed parameter is supposed to be the title of the page with the code and controls whether ShortSummary is displayed. It's not displayed if the code is transcluded on another page. For example, Game of Thrones season 1#Episodes is transcluded at List of Game of Thrones episodes#Season 1 (2011). Your adaptation effectively claimed the code was on a page called [https://youtube.com/cP6VqB4klpQ] and ShortSummary would only be displayed on that page. By the way, your link https://youtube.com/cP6VqB4klpQ is broken. It works with https://youtube.com/watch?v=cP6VqB4klpQ. If you had written that then the parameter would have been ignored like in the other entry and ShortSummary would have been displayed. I have fixed the link but also moved the YouTube links to the RTitle parameter where they are actually used.[12] I didn't format the references but just left bare url's. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Yyannako (talk) 14:53, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Redirect notice on my userpage?

Today I noticed that a redirect notice has appeared in the scrollbox on my userpage. I am not sure how or when that happened, as I have recently returned from a wikibreak. Please could someone kindly remove the notice? Or tell me how to remove it? Thanks. Storye book (talk) 14:07, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Storye book welcome back! One of the templates in the box (Template:User Wikipedia/File mover) was moved, leaving a redirect at its original title. I've fixed the issue. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, your help is much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 09:14, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Adding a language link

I have been trying to add a link from Joël Le Scouarnec to the French version in the languages box. In the French wiki the article (on same topic) has the title Affaire Joël Le Scouarnec. When I tried to add the link it wouldn't let me because there was another wikidata item with the title "case of Joël Le Scouarnec". When I tried to merge the "Joël Le Scouarnec" and "case of Joël Le Scouarnec" wikidata items I got an error message with something about the Chinese wikidata item. Is there any way round this? Southdevonian (talk) 11:56, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Maybe it can help "Wikidata:Help:Merge". Anatole-berthe (talk) 13:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Southdevonian and Anatole-berthe:, I saw a discussion about this at d:Help talk:Merge#Joel Le Scouarnec Q132774007 and Q86681547. The items can't be merged as "Joël Le Scouarnec" is a person and "case of Joël Le Scouarnec" is a case. I have added interlanguage links manually per Help:Interlanguage links#Local links to override Wikidata interlanguage links. TSventon (talk) 14:14, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon:, many thanks for fixing it! Southdevonian (talk) 14:43, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Air Force ROTC Emblems & Wikimedia Commons

Hello, I am unfamiliar with concepts around copyright laws for images and emblems, and I want to know if Air Force ROTC Detachment emblems would be permitted for use on Wikipedia. I know that a large number of USAF Unit emblems are already in use, but I don't know the specifics around their usage/uploading permnissibility, and I wanted to get guidance before just uploading Detachment emblems. I am asking this because I am currently working on a list of AFROTC detachments, and will be working on articles for individual detachments in the future. Omega LVIII (talk) 07:51, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Omega LVIII, if they are a work of the Air Force and not unofficial, they may be uploaded to Commons using a template like c:Template:PD-USGov-Military-Air Force. From what I can tell they are indeed works of an Air Force employee or similar. – Isochrone (talk) 10:45, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you for the clarification! Omega LVIII (talk) 17:43, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of My Wiki Page

Already being discussed elsewhere. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:41, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hello! My Wiki Page was moved to draft space. Draft:Bhramar Mukherjee

can you please restore it or let me know what the problem was? This is critical to my professional life. 216.49.130.14 (talk) 02:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Nobody Owns anything per Wikipedia: Ownership of content and it was moved to draft space. You also need reliable sources and Secondary Sources. Untamed1910 (talk) 03:05, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Please don't ask the same question in multiple places – this is already being discussed at the biographies noticeboard. Please also see NOTWEBHOST – anything critical to your professional life is best published on a platform that you control, not an independent tertiary source like an encyclopaedia. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 03:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Templates for retired users

On the now-deceased user Dreadstar's talk page, there was a note saying Please no notes on my talk page; any watchers please remove them if you see them. Thanks and good luck to everyone!, which the user posted when he retired back in March 2015.

Given the above, I have a question for the Wikipedia community: should we remove any notices (like AFD notices) on all retired/deceased userpages if so needed? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 11:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

The "user page" have the same content than "talk-page". In my understanding we should not touch to anything but I'm maybe wrong.

"User:Dreadstar" is a redirect to "User talk:Dreadstar".

As the user died. I consider that this page is not anymore managed by this user.

Therefore , now it's a "de facto memorial page".

"Mark WILSON" alias "Dreadstar" is listed on the next link "Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians".

Read this. I think that this behavioral guideline can answer to yours questions : "Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines".

If you want to read the obituary (I don't know if this is a right term in this context) on Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2016#Mark_Wilson_(Dreadstar) Anatole-berthe (talk) 17:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Could somebody help me create/translate this infobox

Currently planning to translate the Chinese Protected Site infobox template from Chinese to english.(For more context, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Possible infobox of chinese protected historical sites?)

I have no experience making infoboxes, so could somebody help make it for me, or provide some info on how to make it? Additionally, can templates also have drafts?

For more context regarding the template, here are some examples of it being used on Chinese wikipedia; Great Wall Yanqing Temple; it is in the same template as the UNESCO site infobox if the location is also a unesco site;

For even more context, National priority protected sites are China's equivalent to the US National Register of Historic Places Thehistorianisaac (talk) 02:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

What makes you think Template:Infobox historic site is not adequate for the purpose? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Having a separate template for Chinese protected sites would be useful(sort of like how NRHP has it's own template), such as when it was added to the National Priority protected site or provincial site registry, the Chinese dynasty, protection level, dynasty, which batch it was added in, it's category etc etc. It's sort of a similar situation to Template:Infobox NRHP. Main point is, I would like to know how to make an infobox Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

We decided several years back not to have separate boxes for each country; and merged all but a few "grandfathered" templates into one.

Again: What makes you think Template:Infobox historic site is not adequate? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Oh ok. Will switch to use Infobox historic site. However, does that infobox work for chinese protected sites, such as national level, municipal level, etc etc? Because I haven't seen anybody add it when it was used Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't know; that's what I'm asking you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Hidden CS1 maintenance and error messages

I am working on the article Ladd Observatory. When I edit and click "show preview" I see:

"Script warning: One or more {{cite book}} templates have maintenance messages; messages may be hidden (help)."

I followed the instructions at Help:CS1_errors#Error_and_maintenance_messages to edit my common.css file. Even after logging out and back in, doing a null edit, and a pagename?action=purge I still don't see any informative messages about what needs to get fixed or which citation it is referring to.

mikeu ^talk 22:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I see a maint message at this citation. maint messages are sometimes hard to spot. I use a ctrl+f search for cs1 to find them. Do you still not see it?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Ahh, I see it now. Thanks. ----mikeu ^talk 22:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Firefox lite should be moved to the main Firefox page

Hey all! I’m thinking that since Firefox lite is a smaller, related product/page, maybe it makes sense to merge this article into the main Firefox page’s history or trivia section. What do you all think? Open to feedback! CasonPlayzYT (talk) 20:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@CasonPlayzYT There are 49 articles, including redirects with "firefox" in their titles, so it seems that splitting out has happened a lot. If you want to propose a WP:MERGE, then see that link for how to do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

High school sports

This is for people that do high schools. I am trying to update all of the historical data GHSA championships for hs in GA. Should I include the level they competed at (2A, 3A, etc.)? BabaYagaUSA (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@BabaYagaUSA If you don't get an answer here, you might try reposting at WT:EDUCATION, where those interested are more likely to notice your suggestion. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

What's the best way to deal with this scenario? Expanding a redirect to article, not losing history?

So, there's these, that both just redirect to a list of characters:

I have no idea how it never got made before as a proper article, but it took about a minute of digging to gather enough for GNG alone--so I'm gonna knock it out. But, since it exists like that, should I draft in my user space here?

User:Very Polite Person/draft/Saru (Star Trek)

Or just pick the more appropriate of the two and just build out directly? I want my editing history to be present in the final Article space page for everyone's tracking, not in some lost deleted draft. What do? I don't think I've moved a multiple-times edited Redirect into an article before. -- Very Polite Person (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Disregard, thanks anyway, I'm just going to directly build out the Discovery version one. -- Very Polite Person (talk) 15:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

(Especially to readers with basic knowledge in India Republic law) An Edit summary indicates severe conflict between WP contributors

Please have a look at the Edit summary.

Is there anything that should be carried out by WP admins or so? (Pardon me my bad English, i am de-N, en-2) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 14:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Regardless of 'India Republic law', the IP needs to be blocked per Wikipedia:No legal threats. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Done. 331dot (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I did reverted the edit made by the IP. Anatole-berthe (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Tom Taylor (Yorkshire cricketer)

ref. number 5 - I added in a little quote and now the ref is in red. please fix. I cannot. Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette Fixed in this edit. There was a tab character in the quote rather than a space and although the error message was clear it was a little difficult to spot. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Should unaccepted taxons be removed from the pages that link them?

On the Glomeridae article, the species list includes genera that are no longer accepted as distinct, independent genera, and have been relabeled as synonyms of other genera. For example, Corsikomeris has been redefined as a synonym of the genus Doderia. Should Corsikomeris thus be removed from the species list and Doderia added in its place? Nephila121 (talk) 02:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@Nephila121, that seems like a useful update to make. CMD (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Nephila121. Either be WP:BOLD, or if you have any doubts, discuss it first at WP:TREE. ColinFine (talk) 09:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Titling of split articles

Do you know where I can find suggestions for proper "split titles" for the "Musical style and influences of Linkin Park" as well as "Legacy of Linkin Park"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

You could ask here or at a relevant wikiproject.

"Cultural impact of" is a possibility for the second one. TSventon (talk) 15:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Pai Forest

Pai Forest

Reference help requested. kindly fix this ref error. Thank you Thanks, JogiAsad (talk) 02:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @JogiAsad. It's saying that you haven't given a title for the source. The title appears to be "STATE OF FORESTS IN SINDH AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FLOWING OUT OF IT", so you can easily insert that in the template after |title= - though I recommend typing it in title case rather than all capitals. ColinFine (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @JogiAsad, I see you have added the nonexistent catergories Category:Wildlife sanctuaries in Sindh and Category:Forests of Sindh. According to WP:CATREDLINK these should be created or removed from the article. If the provincial categories would only have one or two members it is probably better to use national categories. TSventon (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

How do you cite and can you cite a Microsoft Excel file?

Hello, I am trying to write about tourism to the United States and I was wondering how'd I'd cite that. It's reliable as its an official US Governmental source and you can find the Excel file here under the title of: "I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present (Excel File)" and it does work when you open it. I'm also wondering if your allowed to cite Microsoft Excel files here on Wikipedia.

Sincerely, @Skim127 21:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Skim127. The format of a source is relatively unimportant. What's important is that it is published (so a random user can in principle get hold of a copy from some sort of public resource, eg a library) and that it be reliably published (from somebody with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking).

I don't know if there is a citation template that will suit this, but the use of those is optional anyway. The important bits, beside the url (https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20%28COR%29_1.xlsx) are the author (though there presumably isn't one here), publisher, and date.

However, there is a problem with this source, because it is "-Present", which means that it will presumably be changing regularly. A source which will change is problematic, because a reader in the future may look at it and find it no longer supports the information which it is being used to verify. So if you are going to use this resource, I would suggest using the most recent arhive of it on archive.org - https://web.archive.org/web/20250320162049/https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20(COR)_1.xlsx, which happens to be from 20 March this year.

So unless there is a suitable template, I would write the reference) as something like

<ref>'I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present' (Excel File), US Government International Trade Administration, [https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20%28COR%29_1.xlsx current link], [https://web.archive.org/web/20250320162049/https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20(COR)_1.xlsx archived on 2025-03-25]</ref>

which displays in the reflist as ^[1]

References

^ 'I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present' (Excel File), US Government International Trade Administration, current link, archived on 2025-03-25

ColinFine (talk) 10:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

how to add pictures supporting activities in articles

how to add pictures supporting activities in articles Chitra Sarwara Ambala (talk) 06:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chitra Sarwara Ambala, I'm not sure what you mean by "pictures supporting activities", but see Help:Pictures. Images, in general, should illustrate article content, and more images is not necessarily better. It's easiest to use pics you find on Commons. The rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used on Wikipedia or Commons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chitra Sarwara Ambala: Hi There! I am new here and I've just practiced with adding pictures, so here's my take. To add pictures supporting activities in articles, you need to use images that are freely licensed and relevant to the content of the article. The best place to find such images is Wikimedia Commons, which is the central repository for images used on Wikipedia.

If you have a suitable image (for example, one you took yourself), you can upload it to Commons using the Upload Wizard. Be sure to provide a proper description, source, and select a free license (such as CC BY-SA).

Once the image is on Commons, you can add it to the article using this syntax:

<code><nowiki>[[File:Example.jpg|thumb|Caption describing the image]]</nowiki></code>

Replace "Example.jpg" with the actual file name you uploaded or found on Commons, and write an appropriate caption.

More guidance is available at Help:Pictures. Let me know if you need help finding a specific image or formatting it correctly. TheGreenPenWrites (talk) 16:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

What do I do if a photo has been incorrectly marked as non-free

If I found a non-free fair use image which actually is free/exempt from copyright, are there any other things I need to do other than changing the copyright templates? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Thehistorianisaac. You need to provide convincing written evidence that the image is either in the public domain or freely licensed with terms that meet Wikipedia's standards. For example, a free license that restricts commercial re-use is not acceptable. Cullen328 (talk) 07:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Situation has sort of changed, turns out the photo I was referring to is completely incorrect anyways, my main question now is how do I request a non free fair use image be deleted for being unreliable? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Raise it at WP:FFD. CMD (talk) 09:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Thehistorianisaac. If it had turned out that the image actually was free, it would be a good idea to transfer it to Commons. ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Board Game Artwork

I HAVE JUST RE-POSTED THIS DISCUSSION AS IT EXPIRED BEFORE I HAD A CHANGE TO WRITE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE PREVIOUSLY [13]: I am very unsure about how to use Wiki-Commons. I am just about to do some major editing of a Wikipedia article about a board game, e.g., en:Brass (board game) (Wikipedia 'free link'). I screen-shot the artwork of the game's title on the computer game version, available through Steam. The header is the word "Brass" on a brass plaque. The artwork is clearly not my own work, and I am not sure whether it is the game's logo, as it is the game's title. In addition, since it is a graphic of the game, I assume that the person in control of illustrating the computer version, Magdalena Mudlaff, or the illustrator of the original board game, Peter Dennis, have a copyright over such a graphic. How would I go about working out whether I can use the graphic or getting permission? I seem to see other board games with a complete picture of the game's box cover, including the board game logo, but I am just not sure how they managed to do that. Are such illustrations in the public domain, and, if not, how do they become so? Can you advise me? Thanks in advance for the time taken to lend your assistance.SMargan ^talk 22:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

THIS WAS THE RESPONSE [14]:

@SMargan: There are two separate issues here:

Can you upload these materials to Commons? Without seeing the images in question I can't say anything definitive, but it is very unlikely anything related to a game created in recent decades is in the public domain, unless (for example) the logo is too simple to copyright and you want to use that, or the game simply reuses images whose copyright has expired. Otherwise, you'd need the owners of the copyright to release these materials under a free license, and very few owners of commercially valuable materials are likely to do such a thing. If you want a detailed explanation of the issues involved in uploading materials like this to Commons, see Commons:Uploading works by a third party.

Failing that, can you upload these as non-free materials on the English-language Wikipedia without involving Commons? en:Wikipedia:Non-free content allows for allowing certain non-free content (such as logos) directly to en-wiki.

- Jmabel ! ^talk 04:23, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

THIS IS MY LATEST AND FRESH RESPONSE Jmabel ! ^talk @Jmabel: The logo is the word "Brass" on a brass plague background, as the logo of the 2008 board game "Brass". It is difficult to say whether this would be copyrighted as whilst the game was republished as "Brass - Lancashire" (2018) with a different logo, and the logo is pretty generic, the game was pretty popular and might be copyrighted. I have tried to upload the logo via the first method, but to no available, as I do not think this fits within the allowable criteria.

I am just a little unsure how to proceed with the second method. The link you gave, i.e. en:Wikipedia:Non-free content does not seem to show how to do it, in a format I can understand. Is there a specific part of the page I was meant to be looking at. Can you advise? Is there a link to a "non-free content" uploading area? Thanks in advance for your time responding to this further query of mine.SMargan ^talk 08:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

SMargan, you should assume that any image you find or copy is conventionally copyright ("all rights reserved") unless you have, and can describe, very clear evidence to the contrary. No image that's conventionally copyright may be uploaded to Commons. Right now, as I type this response, I see within the same browser window various links provided to me by Wikipedia. One of them is "Upload file". Clicking this is how I'd start the process of uploading a file that would need, and that I'd provide, a "fair use" rationale for use within this or that article. (Though actually the process would start earlier, as I'd write and rewrite the "fair use" rationale, ready to paste it in on demand, use GIMP to reduce the size of the image, etc.) -- Hoary ^talk 12:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Non-free content explains the policy. Template:Non-free use rationale is the template you will need to put on the file page for each non-free image (or, as appropriate, you can use a more specialized template like Template:Non-free use rationale logo). - Jmabel | ^Talk 16:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Jmabel | ^Talk - Yes, the Template:Non-free use rationale template will be useful when I have uploaded my tiff file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Apologies for not being clear enough. Please send me the link for upload a image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan (talk) 04:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

~~SMargan, I find it odd that an article on Brass includes a long list of non-notable awards, but makes no mention of its complicated and confusing "Birkenhead" rule.~~ Maproom ^talk 13:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Maproom: does that somehow have bearing on the question of using these images? If so, would you spell out the connection? and if not, this belongs on the talk page of the article, not here. - Jmabel | ^Talk 16:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

@Jmabel | ^Talk & Maproom ^talk - I was only responding to the issue Maproom ^(talk) raised. I think the real issue behind this discussion thread is how to upload a file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Please send me the link for upload a image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan ^talk 04:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

I've struck my off-topic comment above. Maproom ^talk 06:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@Jmabel | ^Talk & Maproom ^talk - The article currently has a lot of deficiencies. I am doing a major re-write. Part of that major edit was going to be the addition of a logo for the game. However, Jmabel | ^Talk is correct, that issue is something best left to the Wikipedia article talk section. I have started a discussion thread about that issue there [15]. Now, back to the issue at hand, I have the policies on "non-free images", i.e. Template:Non-free use rationale and en:Wikipedia:Non-free content, but now I need to know how I actually upload a file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Please send me the link for uploading an image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@SMargan In the menu on the left side of the screen you have the button "Upload file", which takes you to Wikipedia:File upload wizard. There you can choose to "Upload a non-free file", which uploads the file locally here on enwiki instead of Commons. It if complies with Wikipedia:Non-free content of course. Trim02 (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

There is no "'non-free image' section of Wikipedia." You upload the image to Wikipedia (not Commons), and you use {{Non-free use rationale}} (or a more specialized template) rather than {{Information}}. Start at Wikipedia:File upload wizard and follow the directions. - Jmabel | Talk 16:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Glitch?

Hello, I have a query. I was going through the revision history of article: India [16], then I found that the article was started/created by a user: Corvus13, on 17:25, 26 October 2001. On checking the contributions ([17]), of the user it says as: ′A user with 0 edits. Account created on 12 December 2017′, even though the user has aroud 99 edits. And many of user's edit dosent have history (′diff′).

Is it a technical glitch or anything else. Can somebody clear it out..? --2406:7400:107:482F:0:0:0:1 (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Even the user's renamed account: Corvus13~enwiki, shows as: ′A user with 0 edits. Account created on 15 March 2008′, with all user-contributions done in 2001 only:[18]. --2406:7400:107:482F:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia used other software in 2001. Some old edits are lost and some have been imported at different times without updating all related logs. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. The India edit may have been imported in 2010 at [19]. There may be older lost edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:32, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia was initially launched on the 15th of January, 2001 at which time it was powered by UseModWiki.

It now uses the MediaWiki software. It appears that Corvus13 had registered their account prior to the transition, which is likely responsible for some missing database entries.

A F K When Needed 09:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Amazing!. Thank you @PrimeHunter:, @A F K When Needed:. --2406:7400:107:B45E:0:0:0:1 (talk) 10:09, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

RFC that removed births and deaths for years after 1980

I saw in the edit summaries in those years that the births and deaths of those years were removed because of a passed RFC. However, I've searched through a bunch of pages and couldn't find the RFC discussing this. I was hoping someone can provide me a link to it. The RFC probably took place sometime in early 2023 or late 2022. Interstellarity (talk) 01:14, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi Interstellarity. It's possible that you're looking for Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_199#h-RFC:_split_births_&_deaths_from_year_articles. I'm not sure if there were any follow-up discussions after that one. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers Thank you. Interstellarity (talk) 11:13, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

email for login

Hi - I created this account ages ago and just found out it is associated with an email address which has not existed for over a decade. How can I change my email address to my current one? Webster Forrest, London UK (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Preferences -> User profile -> Email options. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm just asking regarding Genshin Impact article

Hello, I'm just asking why the article Genshin Impact is become a vandalism target? Because I coincidentally playing that game in mid 2024s by my friends. Can Wikipedia users explain me? Because that article I mentioned was protected on October 1, 2024. Thanks. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 22:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Sadly, some people will vandalise anything, though some topics attract it more than others - a popular video game is an unsurprising target. From a quick look at the history, the most recent vandalism is likely to mostly down to a single individual - clearly obsessed. There have been long-running problems though, leading to a succession of blocks. [20] We don't really need concern ourselves as to why people engage in such behaviour as long as it can be stopped. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:21, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Middleton family

I'm sorry, reference number 15 is wrong (in red) - please alter. I get confused. Sorry again. Srbernadette (talk) 01:33, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Done, Sister: you had entered the reference's 'Access date' year as "20255" rather than 2025 – not easy to spot once buried in the first of two consecutive reference codings; I opened an edit window for the section, [Control+F]-searched for "Airedale" just before the citation, and looked onwards from there for an impossible date. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.154.147 (talk) 02:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Malfunction

I was editing a section, "Athletes from around the world (Part V)" on my sandbox and apparently it shows weird codes, such as, "Template:Flagathlete" and "Template:Country data Tuvalu" when I publish it on two of the entries. But, when I previewed it everything was fine. Help me as soon as you can and please tell me if I have made an error or something like that. Anasimi.Isa (talk) 16:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@Anasimi.Isa: User:Anasimi.Isa/sandbox is in the hidden category Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded. Individual sections don't break the limit on their own so section preview works but all templates at the end of the whole published page will fail to render if nothing is done to reduce the template load. You could for example move some content to another sandbox like User:Anasimi.Isa/sandbox2. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Articles and all other pages have the same limit so the content cannot be recombined into a single article. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Anasimi.Isa (talk) 17:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Does "semi-protection" actually preventing vandalism or disruptive editings?

I'm just asking regarding semi-protection, my question, does semi-protection are guaranteed to preventing vandalism, disruptive editings or alike? As far as I know, semi-protection isn't always guaranteed to prevent such I mentioned. Many unresponsible users are continuing vandalized or doing disruptive edits on protected pages, including semi-protection. Can Wikipedia users explain it to me? Thanks. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@Rizky Juliandief: Semi-protection simply means that the software only allows autoconfirmed users to edit the page. It's enough to stop most vandalism and disruption but not all. There are higher protection levels which prevent more users from editing but there are few guarantees in life, and editors may disagree about what is disruptive. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:47, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

In some case of legitimate users such as me, does it considered inconvenience within that? Rizky Juliandief (talk) 01:50, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

@Rizky Juliandief: I don't know what you mean. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Rizky Juliandief, if a user wants to make a worthwhile, reliably referenced change to an article, but semi-protection prevents them from making it, then they are free to make an edit request at the foot of the article's talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 08:39, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Hoary, I hope I can enjoy Wikipedia comfortably. Now I'm understand with that. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 08:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The "Contribute" link is not working

I've allowed cookies. Any ideas why it is not working? PZAllen (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@PZAllen. The "Contribute" link doesn't appear to be a link at all.

I suggest asking at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 20:03, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@PZAllen: Do you mean in a menu above "Help". That's a heading, not a link. It's black for me, not blue like links, and there is a horizontal line between it and the links it's a heading for. The former default skin Vector (now called Vector legacy or Vector 2010) made it more clear that it's a heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that! PZAllen (talk) 22:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

My Schizophrenic Life

Hi. I'm currently copyediting and reviewing the above article, for DYK purposes. I think I've tidied up most of it, but there remains a stubborn "sarcastic" emoji whose markup seems to be invisible, so that I cannot remove it from the edit mode/page. Please could someone kindly find its source and remove it for me? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 18:21, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi Storye book. Where in the article are you seeing the emoji? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@Storye book:, @Firefangledfeathers:, it was fixed by @Trappist the monk: with this edit. The problem was a {{p|29}} instead of an {{rp|29}}. Template:p makes smileys. DuncanHill (talk) 18:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Yikes, that was my own typo! Oops. Thank you for the explanation. And now I know how to make smileys ... Cheers. Storye book (talk) 06:53, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

How long does an RFC last?

How long does an RFC usually last? Bc this is been here since 4+ months talk:Malabar Muslims#Request for comment on generalizing the origin of Mappilas? Hionsa (talk) 17:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

@Hionsa:, see Wikipedia:Requests for comment. Apparently the bot assumes a RFC lasts 30 days. TSventon (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

need a credible contributing writer

Hi, I'm looking for someone who can build a content page for my personal listing. I have tried and the content keeps being refused. I am a voiceover Talent professional with many commercials voiced, I have appeared in movies as well as ran for municipal elections. Can anyone suggest a person to help me publish a proper listing.

thnx

Claudio Napoleoni

Aaroc1 (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Can anyone Suggest such a person? Probably not, since everything you have written suggests that you have entirely misunderstood the purpose of Wikipedia. We do not have 'personal listings'. We do have biographical articles, but only on individuals who meet our notability criteria, as demonstrated through in-depth coverage in independent published reliable sources. Such articles are open to anyone to edit, and they are not under the control of the subject. Wikipedia is not a web-hosting service. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Additionally: At the top of this page, a prohibition is described. I've implemented the prohibition. -- Hoary (talk) 20:55, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

If anyone is wondering, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claudio Napoleoni. The article Claudio Napoleoni had been created by Nathanguss. The (separate) draft Draft:Claudio Napoleoni (twice deleted after half-year inactivity) was created by Nathanguss and Goulz. Nathanguss also created the article CN VoiceOvers (deleted A7). -- Hoary (talk) 21:14, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Yup - clearly connected, while trying to suggest otherwise in the AfD discussion. Aaroc1, if that was you, or anyone connected with you, please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and ensure it doesn't happen again. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Satelite images and creative commons

Hi all, I'm just curious if open-street map or google satellite view images are considered open-access under creative commons licensing, and can thus be screenshotted or saved to be uploaded for image reference on the site. I've searched elsewhere but couldn't find a definitive answer. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!

CSGinger14 (talk) 04:58, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, CSGinger14! Have you seen, and followed up the links on, Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps? After a brief search, I couldn't find a definitive answer to your question, but you could ask on its Talk page. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.154.147 (talk) 07:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Have not, but will. Thank you!

CSGinger14 (talk) 07:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@CSGinger14: Google satellite views are definitely copyrighted and can't be uploaded to Commons. I'm not entirely sure about OpenStreetMap, but I found this thread at Commons's Village pump that seems to indicate that OSM screenshots are OK to upload. If you have further questions about this sort of thing, it's best to ask at Commons. Deor (talk) 16:14, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Screenshots of OSM maps can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, but not screenshots or downloads of satellite views in OSM editing tools. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:39, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Multiple references

I would like to note that in the Back to the Future article, some of the sentences have a footnote stating "Attributed to multiple references" since some of them have at least four or more references attached to said sentences.

Whenever I find similar sentences that are attached to multiple references on such articles, I use a footnote stating the same thing. Should it apply to all articles if needed? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Sjones23 I don't think so. Back to the Future is a featured article which will have gone through extensive discussion about referencing. I think that the multiple cites using {{efn}} have been done that way as explanations of the fact that in this case many sources (which are linked in the footnotes) make each specific point. Normally, it would be considered WP:Citation overkill to have so many references in the main text and doing it using explanatory footnotes makes the main text somewhat less cluttered. I don't think this approach is needed generally. An alternative is WP:Citation bundling but that's also fairly rare. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: Thanks for the response. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Use of which? template

The article Montgomery Canal had three which? templates against the mention of Acts of Parliament. I have resolved two, but am left with The Ellesmere and Chester Canal obtained an act of Parliament[which?] to enable them to become the Shropshire Union Railways and Canal Company. All the sources I can find agree that an Act of Parliament was obtained, and the List of Acts of Parliament shows that three acts were obtained in 1846, all for railways, but one of them included the powers to rename the company. No sources say which of the three acts included those powers, and the parliamentary archive does not have the text for any of the three acts. Can I just remove the which? tag? Trying to explain the issue in the article seems to be a bit off-topic. I could remove mention of the Act of Parliament, but as I say, all the sources mention it. Thanks for any clues as to the way forwards. Bob1960evens (talk) 07:53, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't see that sentence in the article. The only 'which?' I currently see is By the autumn of 1846, the LNWR had offered to lease the Shropshire Union, and the directors felt that a guaranteed income from a powerful company was probably better than most other options. They agreed to the terms in December, and the LNWR obtained an act of Parliament[which?] in June 1847 to authorise the arrangement. That is 1847 not 1846, and appears to be this one: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/Vict/10-11/121/contents/enacted DMacks (talk) 10:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

The sentence you have quoted appears in the article on the Shropshire Union Railways and Canal Company, whereas I am concerned with the Montgomery Canal article. The sentence I quoted is in the "Shropshire Union takeover" section of that article. I already know about the 1847 Act, because that also appears in the Montgomery Canal article. I'll fix it in the Shropshire Union Railways and Canal Company article, since you have pointed it out. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

In the absence of any sensible response to my question, I have removed the which? tag, and left a note of the Montgomery Canal talk page about the reasons for doing so. Bob1960evens (talk) 12:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

famous person not in city list

hello I was doing research on Nordheimer - Abraham and Samuel who were born in Memmelsdorf Bavaria Germany in 1820s. on going to the city page they were not listed under "famous people". how can they be added? thanks David 2607:FEA8:95A1:6100:B937:676B:90DE:E1BE (talk) 21:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

I've added them to the list. I see that their articles both claim that they were born in Memmelsdorf, but without references in support of this. I've also removed Ferdinand Tietz, as not wikinotable. Maproom (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Help needed finding a source

I was editing the page Christianity and Judaism and I noticed that someone had made a statement in which they said was "according to the Talmud" (misspelled as Talmut). I'm not sure where, or for that matter if, I could find a source to back the statement up. The text is in the first paragraph of the section "Jewish self-identification". Many thanks, Inkycosmos (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Please dissuss this on the article's talk page: Talk:Christianity and Judaism. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Barrie/Little Lake Water Aerodrome

Hi, I've just spotted this page which has some words struck through. I've never seen this before and don't know if it's OK to do this, or if it's vandalism. Any thoughts? Blackballnz (talk) 02:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

It appears to have been done to indicate that the aerodrome is now closed. Possibly some sort of convention, but not very helpful for the average reader. You could try posting a message on the talk page, or maybe ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:36, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I've removed the strike-through. The article is worded in past tense, which is sufficient. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Italian food

The name of the Italian food that includes Bladders 2.114.203.114 (talk) 13:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

What of it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Frattaglie? Maproom (talk) 18:42, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Editing a Misspelled Image?

Could someone please look at the following image file? The team D.C. United is misspelled "Untied". If it were a simple text mistake, I would do it myself. File:2024 US Division 1 professional soccer teams.png [21] Thanks! 2600:4040:7FA3:B800:AA3B:D1C6:61A0:9110 (talk) 23:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

File:2024 US Division 1 professional soccer teams.png was created at Wikimedia Commons by User:JTRamsey, but they only seem to edit occasionally. TSventon (talk) 23:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I fixed it. DMacks (talk) 07:35, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Apologies it's been a busy month. Thanks @DMacks for fixing. If there are any other issues I have the code in my sandbox but I can give it to someone else if they want it. Thanks again for catching and fixing this! JT Ramsey (talk) 17:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

No worries. I did it by hand-editing the graphics file. If it's generated from some tool, might be useful to link it from the file's page so others can learn your magic:) I wouldn't have a clue how to create such a thing from scratch other than pasting manually-written text boxes in a graphics editor. DMacks (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Meet

Hello. Am not english native speaker. Please, someone, check weather "Meet may refer to: niga" in Meet is not vandalism. Thanks Pápiliunculus (talk) 08:11, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

That is indeed vandalism; I have reverted it now. A F K When Needed 08:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Translation

Hello, I'm studying a Master's of Translation studies at a university and I want to translate some Wikipedia articles for experience (as a part of my degree I need to make some published translations) but I see that I need to have made at least 500 edits to Wikipedia to publish my translations. Is there anyway to bypass this? Or do I need to have made the 500 edits? Thanks Specificy (talk) 12:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

There is advice about translating from other language Wikipedias to English at Wikipedia:Translation and Help:Translation. I also recommend Help:Your first article as you are responsible for ensuring that your new article meets en Wikipedia requirements, including Wikipedia:Notability.

The 500 edit requirement applies if you want to use the Wikipedia:Content translation tool. TSventon (talk) 12:47, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

@Specificy It is worth noting that the English Wikipedia won't accept translations unless the topic meets our notability requirements. Hence, the mere existence of an article in another language won't guarantee that even a perfect translation will be accepted. One way to proceed if you are fluent in multiple languages is to go from English -> another language, starting with a well-sourced article here (see WP:ASSESS for our content assessments). As mentioned, the 500-edits requirement is not relevant as I assume you will be doing the translations yourself as part of your degree, with limited if any AI-based help. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

However, other Wikipedias will have their own requirements, so Specificy would need to research those before contributing to them. TSventon (talk) 14:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

All right, I'll look into that! Thank you! Specificy (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

@Specificy: if you would be interested in translating women's biographies, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red is very supportive and has redlists of articles which could be translated, subject to meeting en Wikipedia requirements. TSventon (talk) 06:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh that looks interesting, thanks! Specificy (talk) 07:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Middleton family

Please fix - I cannot do this! Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41 and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up".

Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Please fix - I cannot do this! Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41 and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up" if you can. Thank you again115.70.23.77 (talk) 03:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Please see, read, and implement Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once. And then, in your [when logged in] user page, add a link to Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once, for future use. -- Hoary (talk) 05:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Change a Highway icon image in infobox?

I would like to update the Highway shield used in the infobox of Ontario Highway 407 as some tolls were dropped and the image needs to be fixed - but I see that there is no image option in the infobox road template, looks like there is another fancy way one must change it? How on earth do I? Thanks! PascalHD (talk) 04:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@Floydian: I see you were involved in making Ontario Highway 407 a good article, hopefully you know how the infobox works. TSventon (talk) 08:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I figured it out. Had to change the photo at this obscure module page Module:Road_data/strings/CAN/ON. Consider this issue resolved! PascalHD (talk) 04:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Please have a careful look at this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonathan_Joss&diff=1293734248&oldid=1293733219 I think the edit was not good. It has been reverted 1 hour ago. I think the revert was good. Shall there be any action towards the contributor who made the edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonathan_Joss&diff=1293734248&oldid=1293733219? The contributor has been warned > 15 years ago, see his talk page. If yes, please do. I am not sure about en Wikipedia policies. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 11:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Not vandalism, but also not appropriate. Advice given. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Several Sources, but None in English?

I've recently stumbled upon a new (to me) situation, and while I've dug through relevant policies (e.g. Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Additional_annotation & Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources), I'm still not entirely sure how to tackle it.

I find myself highly tempted to slap Girl2K with the Notability template, because, out of the 13 sources cited;

Zero are in English
2 are archived - with the original links throwing 404s.
10 are links to Facebook posts; I don't speak Thai, but they appear to all go to the same page (?)

Now, to be fair - the subject of the page does have an IMDb page.

tl;dr: Can an article generally be considered notable if there are sources out there for it at all, or does the English-language Wikipedia expect a non-zero number of English-language sources to demonstrate relevance to the project?

Would really appreciate some guidance on this one! —sardonism · t · c 14:08, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

There is no requirement for sources to be in English, but that is preferred. If the sources comply with the three requirements in WP:42 (significant coverage, reliable, and independent of the subject), then that's an indication of notability. When I run across a situation like this I run the sources through Google Translate to see if it's a trivial mention, a puff piece, an interview, a directory listing, or other thing that doesn't contribute to notability. Certainly Facebook pages and IMDB do not.

If the sources don't contribute to notability, then don't bother with a notability template, slap an AFD template onto it and start an AFD discussion. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! —sardonism · t · c 14:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Not sure it helps, but I looked at the machine translation for the version of the page on Thai wikipedia. There are two refs to stories on the Broadcasting network's website and one to the trailer on youtube. While each wikipedia has separate rules, the page on the thai wikipedia doesn't look like there are any sources that would help here.Naraht (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Appreciate it! ···sardonism · t · c 14:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

To be fair, there's an IMDb page about me. I assure you, that doesn't make me notable enough to merit an article here. Seriously, lots of hard-working folks have IMDb, ISFDb listings, etc., who don't meet our standards of notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:18, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :)

How to manage the width/height of charts

The old graph extension used the Graph:Chart template, this had width and height properties that allowed for this. However the new chart extension says that "Currently, charts occupy the entire container width where you place them". This is highly undesirable. I tried putting them in a div and then styling that div, but to little success as it causes weird scrollbars. Any ideas as to how to fix this? GalStar (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

A better place to ask would be WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll post it there GalStar (talk) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Digital Outdoor Menu Boards page help

Can someone help me with my page Digital Outdoor Menu Board? Some of the sources aren't the greatest and I would like for there to be more in it. Floating Orb (talk) 21:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

This is more a page to ask for support with specific editing issues ("How do I add a picture", "How do I embolden text"), than to ask people to do things for you.

See WP:LIBRARY for places where you can find, or get help finding, sources. You may also get help at your local public library (or your school or college library, if you are a student). Remember that paper sources, as well as those found online, can be used. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay! Thank you. I put this here since I was hoping that other people could work on the page too, not just me. Floating Orb (talk) 16:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

April 2025 hailstorm in Islamabad, Pakistan

Hi all. Need a friendly third opinion at Talk:2025 in Pakistan#April 2025 hailstorm?

I have added an event in the article considering it notable, but the other respected user considers it otherwise. We had a friendly conversation, but couldn't reach a consensus. Please help, thank you! M. Billoo 14:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'll leave the actual 3rd opinion for others but note for next time that we have a dedicated noticeboard for this, WP:3O. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 16:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Possible deleted article

I was reading an article this morning. This afternoon, it doesn't exist. How? The article if "FAZISI" Kenamck143 (talk) 23:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

An administrator (which I am not) can probably look up the article if it was deleted, and tell you why. Was this about the yacht of that name (which might theoretically merit an article), the Fazisi Stadium (why so named? The article doesn't say), or something else entirely? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.154.147 (talk) 23:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

How can I contact an administrator to ask about the article "FAZISI" which appears to have been deleted within the past 24 hours?

Thank you,

Ken Kenamck143 (talk) 23:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that any such article has been deleted from en:Wikipedia. Are you, Kenamck143, perhaps thinking of the Polish-language article Fazisi? -- Hoary (talk) 00:33, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

No article called "FAZISI" or "Fazisi" has been here at the English Wikipedia. Maybe you saw it somewhere else and can find the url in your browser history. If you have autotranslation in your browser then you may have seen the Polish article, or the Russian ru:Фазиси (яхта), or the Ukrainian uk:Фазісі (яхта). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:39, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Actually, you are right. I may have read the article in Polish. How can I translate that article to English, then edit it to reflect the current, correct data?

Thank you Kenamck143 (talk) 01:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

I think Help:Translation is what you're looking for? DonIago (talk) 02:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Translating pl:Fazisi, Kenamck143, would result in a draft sure not to be promoted to article status. First, find reliable sources, independent of the yacht's owners, for information about the yacht. (Wikipedia articles, whatever language they're in, are not reliable sources.) Then use those sources to create a draft, noting which part of the content comes from which source. -- Hoary (talk) 03:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

how to uplod profile pic hwlp

hello team help i m not undstn how to uplod profile pic Ethical Hacker in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (talk) 06:36, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

This should be done at Wikimedia Commons and it should be a free to use picture.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Login problems

I am user CWesling, and I have been editing Wikipedia off and on for a long time. My last login was in December 2024. I am unable to log in today; it says the password being supplied by my Firefox password manager is incorrect. I do not recall changing my password, and I wonder if this is related to the recent change to using wikimedia.org to handle logins.

I actually have two different passwords listed in my password manager: one for en.wikipedia.org, and one for simple.wikipedia.org, both as username CWesling. I've tried both of them with no success. I then tried resetting my password, but no reset email has been sent to my email address (a gmail account that I've been using for a long time). No, it's not in the Spam folder; that was the first place I checked. So I'm stuck -- unable to log in with either of my known passwords, and unable to reset the password. Help? 47.152.11.95 (talk) 01:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Never mind; the reset email finally showed up at my gmail account. — CWesling (talk) 01:50, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

how do i contact my mentor

how do i contact my mentor, cyberdog958 DavidJames1948 (talk) 11:28, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@DavidJames1948 you can message him directly at User talk:Cyberdog958. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Alternatively, navigate to your Homepage at Special:Homepage and click on the boxed link that says "Ask your mentor a question about editing". Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:17, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

IP address blocker issue

Hi team , I am facing IP address blocker issue while trying to create a Wikipedia page how do I rectify this 115.96.84.45 (talk) 14:37, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, you are editing without an account, so you can't create a Wikipedia article. You could create an account and qualify as WP:AUTOCONFIRMED or you could create a WP:DRAFT and use WP:Articles for creation. TSventon (talk) 15:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Change a logo on a Football Club Page

Hi,

I wanted to update the club badge for Cribbs FC to the badge shown on www.cribbsfc.co.uk

No idea how I achieve this?

Is it possible to upload a JPEG at all?

Thanks Thealewolf (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

@Thealewolf .jpg are fine, although the current logo for Cribbs F.C. is a .png. The issue is whether the logo is copyright or is too simple and thus public domain. See WP:Logo for advice on this. The current logo is at File:Cribbs F.C. logo.png, uploaded as a WP:NONFREE image, so you could always upload the new one in the same way, just onto en: Wikipedia. See the current logo's file page for the justification you will have to use. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:44, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Too small articles

Good day or evening! Could you please tell me what we do with one or two sentences articles? I was reading random articles and found this one. As war as I know in some Wikipedias we usually delete this kind of articles. But I suppose that another rules can be applied here. Thank you in advance! Foxyra (talk) 23:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Foxyra! Since it's a scientifically valid taxon, it's considered inherently notable (by en.Wikipedia) – see Wikipedia:Notability (species).

What we do (if we choose) is to try to expand it with more details from the existing references, and/or try to find more references and utilise their content also. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.154.147 (talk) 23:41, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Foxyra (talk) 02:36, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

See also WP:Stub. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:47, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Editing a page

I'm currently editing the Life of Pi page and when I try to click publish changes, it forces me to take a CAPTCHA test, and no matter how many times I take the CAPTCHA test, it does not let me publish changes, but instead, keeps giving me another CAPTCHA test. What do I do> Aalistairr (talk) 17:40, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

This might be a cookie issue - can you try another browser, or another device?

Otherwise, ask at WP:VPT for more expert help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

A common mistake with CAPTCHAs on Wikipedia (which of course you may not be making) is to enter your answer and then click 'Refresh' next to the entry box.

Instead you need to enter the answer and then click 'Publish Changes'.

The 'Refresh' is for when you can't read the CAPTCHA image and want to request a different one.

If you aren't clicking 'Refresh', I don't know what the problem is, but I expect others will have suggestions. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.154.147 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Xihoudu edit

I am new to editing in Wikipedia. I could not figure out how to correctly do a citation. Is there a simple explanation anywhere? I wanted to place the latest citation as number 19 in citation list. If you could take a look for me and make suggestion or correction I would appreciate it. The edit was the inclusion of the latest study with latest lithic dating for the site. Charlie Charlesvella (talk) 04:15, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Charlesvella. Please read Referencing for beginners and Inline citation. Editors do not assign numbers to citations (often also called references). The mediawiki software does that automatically when a citation is formatted correctly. Cullen328 (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, Charlesvella. We have Help:Referencing for beginners without using templates, and Help:Referencing for beginners with citation templates. Choose one or other, try to follow it, and if you get stuck feel free to ask here for an explanation. -- Hoary (talk) 07:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Rheinmetall Nordic draft

I have written this text using Norwegian sources, including news articles and a local historical society. However, it keeps getting rejected due to what is considered "poor sources." I want to emphasize that there are no other available sources on this topic—this is a Norwegian company, and naturally, the information I found is from Norwegian websites. I have used the best and most relevant sources accessible. Please help me or accept the Wikipedia page

Draft:Rheinmetall Nordic. OleBj (talk) 07:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

But OleBj, (i) the most recent decline notice isn't for inadequate sources, and (ii) I don't notice any criticism of the sources for being in Norwegian. (Am I missing something?) Unfortunately I neither read Norwegian nor know anything about guns, but I notice that the very first reference is one of several to a Wikipedia article (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources#User-generated content), and that there are a number of references to the company's website (see Wikipedia:Independent sources). -- Hoary (talk) 08:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Although we are part of Rheinmetall AG, we believe that Rheinmetall Nordic AS (formerly Vinghøg AS) deserves its own Wikipedia page. The company was founded in the 1950s, which means we have over 60 years of history, innovation, and development to document.

With approximately 85 employees, we operate independently within the Rheinmetall Group, with our own products, projects, and a distinct role in the Nordic defense market.

Our journey—from the early days as Vinghøg to our current position as Rheinmetall Nordic—represents an important chapter in Norwegian industrial and defense technology history. A dedicated Wikipedia page would help preserve and share this legacy with the public, researchers, and industry professionals. OleBj (talk) 08:34, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@OleBj Wikipedia is not here to help preserve and share this legacy. Your comment and the fact that you have not contributed to Wikipedia in another way make it clear that you are here only to promote your company, which is not permitted. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I see that no:Rheinmetall Nordic is tagged with Denne artikkelen trenger flere eller bedre referanser for verifikasjon. Du kan forbedre denne artikkelen ved å legge inn referanser til gode kilder. [This article needs more or better references for verification. You can improve this article by adding references to good sources.], so you could probably add some of the sources you have found to the Norwegian article. TSventon (talk) 09:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@Shantavira: CoI and even paid users are welcome to edit drafts, or request changes using talk pages, but must declare the CoI/ paid role. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You made a similar post at WikiPorject AFC. Please do not create duplicate discussions.

Also, see the notice I have just left on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Who does understand Polish language?

The stub Dziennik Bałtycki should be improved, this is a leading newspaper of the region where Karol Nawrocki comes from. Some early sources about him are from this newspaper. My add is a first try. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 22:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

(for instance, de wikipedia has https://www.gdansk.pl/wiadomosci/karol-nawrocki-prezesem-instytutu-pamieci-narodowej-senat-przeglosowal-kandydature,a,200797 as a source for a 2016 and a 2017 Dziennik Bałtycki readers' voting for awards) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 22:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You can find Polish speakers at WT:WikiProject Poland. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:21, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

help desk and a tea house....

Duplicate of Wikipedia:Teahouse#help desk and a tea house..... Please don't start duplicate discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:13, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What is the difference between a help desk and a tea house? Whatback11 (talk) 16:12, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The Teahouse is explicitly aimed at new and novice editors, with a higher tolerance for frequently-repeated questions, lack of talk page etiquette, and so on. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:23, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

How to reference the the Qur’an?

Specifically, Surah al-Ankabut (29:41). Is there a standard format, or would something like this do: ^[1] 136.56.165.118 (talk) 19:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC) Edit:20:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

That's acceptable, but better is to use the template {{Cite Quran}}. Eid Mubarak! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks; will do. --136.56.165.118 (talk) 20:35, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

References

^ Surah al-Ankabut (29:41)

I messed up an edit

Paul Corsaro, American basketball coach

I was adding awards and championships to the information box...now the box is no longer visible and I messed it up Corsarop (talk) 18:26, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

You'd lost the closing }} characters - I've fixed it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Could you please help with adding another award below the GLVC Coach of the Year? I'd like to add NABC DII Midwest Coach of the Year (2023) Corsarop (talk) 18:41, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Corsarop. Judging from your username, it appears you are connected with Corsaro. If this is the case, then you have a conflict of interest. You are strongly advised to declare this (usually on your user page, User:Corsarop), and you should not directly edit the article about Paul Corsaro, but instead should make edit request on its talk page. Note that requests to add material that is not backed up by citations to reliable sources are unlikely to be fulfilled. ColinFine (talk) 19:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

I want to register

Bold 105.160.22.36 (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:REGISTER, then? DonIago (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Phantom threats?

What can I do about unknown entities slithering messages to me threatening "vandalism" on a page I have never even visited? Is anyone in charge here? 64.188.201.83 (talk) 01:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. The IP address that you are now using vandalized Toothpaste several weeks ago. IP addresses can be shared among several people, so possibly it was another person who made the edits. The solution is for you to register a Wikipedia account. That process is free, easy, quick and gives you maximum protection of your anonymity. If you do not vandalize with your account, you will not receive vandalism warnings. Please read Wikipedia:Why create an account? for complete details. Cullen328 (talk) 02:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Right on the user talk page for this IP address, it says If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices. Cullen328 (talk) 02:24, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Blatant errors on page - Dart (missile) I do not have the computer skills to edit !

"This technology was used worldwide from the Upper Palaeolithic (late Solutrean, c. 18,000–16,000 BC) until the development of archery made it obsolete." Darts were still used from the fighting tops of ships at least until the Tudor period as can be learned from the Anthony Roll of Henry VIII th's navy. later contradiction "they appear in multiple illustrations from the 15th and 16th century."

"To maximize elastic energy storage and recovery, such darts should be held only by the nock and allowed to pivot as they are thrown........in Australia the Aboriginal word woomera is used." MISLEADING _ indigenous Australians did NOT use darts from spear throwers, but extremely long, thin and flexible spears (without fletching)

"Some alternate terms for this missile have included the spear, but this term has fallen out of favour since in all other uses, spears are stiff enough to be used for stabbing." Many Australian indigenous spears used until well into the 20th century were extremely thin and flexible and unlikely to be used for "stabbing" as can be witnessed in Google search "Australian aboriginal with woomera " or https://www.teachermagazine.com/assets/images/teacher/Indigenous-science-Spear-throwers2.jpg Various other weapons were derived for close quarters "stabbing"

I hope these errors can be rectified ! 2001:44B8:104:1C00:A849:62C0:DA9C:7DBA (talk) 01:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

The best place to discuss these issues is the article's talk page: Talk:Dart_(missile). Maproom (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Richard Ukiri

Draft:Richard Ukiri

Hi, This article looks suspicious to me. It was apparently written by the subject, and I am not sure it meets the notability criteria. Please have a look. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I agree. The statement "he was scheduled to deliver a public lecture" is weird – did he deliver it, or didn't he? If he did, just write "he delivered a public lecture". If he didn't, it's not worth mentioning. But it'll take a German reader to check whether the subject is shown to be notable. Maproom (talk) 11:46, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

The creator, User:SinclairUkiri, claims to be a "German animator, YouTuber, music creator, and indie game developer"; the article is about a medical doctor. What is your reason for saying "apparently written by the subject"?

Nonetheless, given the similarity of names, there may be a family connection, so I have (again) advised the creator about CoI, on their talk page.

I have also tagged the article for notability concerns.

Both of these actions are things you could have done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:02, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

It has now been draftified. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Question about not being able to use the Teahouse as a new user of this site

Yeah. I would like to question why I cannot use Wikipedia as a new user. I tried to ask a question there but my account has to be a couple of days old to edit here. I just started to edit here. So, I'm wondering:

1. Why I cannot ask questions at the teahouse while being a new user

2. Where do I start with editing Wikipedia

Best, GNG22 (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

GNG22 The Teahouse, and sometimes this page, are the target of an abusive user, which requires the page be protected from editing. Once you attain 10 edits and your account is at least 4 days old, you should be able to edit it.

For starters, I would suggest using the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 16:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the help. GNG22 (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

[1] 'I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present' (Excel File), US Government International Trade Administration, current link, archived on 2025-03-25

[2] Surah al-Ankabut (29:41)

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