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Looking to find most necessary categories

Is there a tool that allows to identify categories on Wikipedia with the largest number of interwikis for which there is no corresponding category in a specific language section, for example Ukrainian? Perohanych (talk) 16:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

You could do that through the Wikidata Query Service; Ask at d:WD:RAQ and somebody will write you a query. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:51, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Where is view edit history link or button?

I am using an iPad I cannot figure out howto view the editing history of an article. 2603:3014:C06:3C00:3C88:6560:F3A0:FFD4 (talk) 19:46, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

If you are using the mobile view (the default, on an iPad) it is the tab with an icon showing a pair of clock hands, inside an anti-clockwise arrow. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:10, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Watchlist

Dear all,
until a few days ago my watchlist showed entries first with a time period less than permanent, sorted by remaining days, and then the permanently watched pages in alphabetical order. Now it's alphabetical order only, the non-permanently watched pages are sorted in. How can I cange that back?
Thanks and kind regards, Grueslayer 07:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Grueslayer, that appears to have been changed for performance reasons. I don't think you can change it back. Rummskartoffel 11:41, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks Rummskartoffel. It's a bit weird that the display scheme was changed without notice, and it's sad that an established feature is scrapped because of a handfull people with 10.000+ articles on their watchlist. But c'est la vie. Kind regards, Grueslayer 08:30, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Being able to order my watchlist by remaining days is fundamental to the way I use it, allowing me to keep it to manageable proportions by viewing what is next scheduled to drop off and assessing whether to retain it for a bit longer. Not being able to do this is certainly going to become a "performance reason" thwarting my efforts. I can only imagine this is a commonplace way of working that will hamper many other users. And I'm curious to know how people with thousands of pages on a watchlist can monitor them effectively. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:08, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@Grueslayer and Mutt Lunker: As Rumskartoffel notes, this change was made for performance reasons. Can you elaborate a little on how you used this sorting? I can pass that on to the team who worked on this to see if we can do something to solve your issues. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:27, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. For each page on my watchlist I make a judgement as to how long I wish to watch it for/think it requires scrutiny, setting the time period accordingly. When the list was ordered chronologically, starting at the top I could easily see which pages I had adjudged would be next to no longer require my scrutiny and either leave the page to drop off by the period I had set, extend the time period or remove it early, if I thought it already no longer need be there. This allows me to keep the list in more manageable numbers by prompting me which are least likely to be worth retaining. Now that the list is alphabetical, I have to check it in its entirety to see what is about to drop off, with the risk that I will lose some that I would reassess as requiring attention for longer, or missing out on those that could be sifted out early. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:51, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Also, if the performance issues are only suffered by a small minority with surely excessive and unmanageable watchlists, it isn't worth the consequences. Mutt Lunker (talk) 13:55, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

The performance issues are slow database queries which, alas, slow down a wiki for all logged-in users and not just people who have very large watchlists CParle (WMF) (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): Thanks. I have all articles I started and those where I'm the main author on permanent watch, all others where I participated something on limited watch. It's fine if they disappear from my watch list after the selected time, but the sort-by-date function works as an "exit" function for me: If I see an article on top of my watch list (because there's only a few days left) I either try to remember if there's anything "new" to add to the article, or in case it's an article where changes are common (e.g. a band, a football player, a political entity) I briefly look up if anything has changed in the past months. If not → the article can go from my watchlist. If yes → the information goes into the article. Without the sorting scheme I can just put articles on a 1 week watch to see if someone's objecting to my change, but changes after 6 months or so are not gonna happen any more from my side. Kind regards, Grueslayer 15:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Just confirming that Grueslayer and myself are fundamentally doing the same thing. I'm sure this usage was widespread with users and the change to enforced alphabetical order renders it barely feasible. We won't be able to exercise the same level of scrutiny any more, without considerably more time, effort and risk of missing things. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Add me to the list of editors who were using the Special:EditWatchlist page in similar ways. In fact, your description practically mirrors how I was using the list before the change. Beyond this performance change, they introduced pagination and namespace filtering, which isn't working quite right (as I've noted in the phab ticket). Stefen 𝕋ower_{'s got the power!!1!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 17:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks folks, this is really helpful. I'll take this back to the Community Tech team and we'll see if we can find a way to get you this functionality back. Just a note that pagination hasn't fully rolled out yet, we're testing it pending a full rollout. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:36, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

+1 to everyone commenting here, I have been doing essentially the same thing. I'm now doing this manually by ctrl+f'ing and searching "few hours" "2 days" and so on. It's way more tedious and confusing. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 11:14, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

FYI I created this wish https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 for re-implementing sort-by-expiry, just so we can get some idea of how important it is to people. As it says in the wish we can't re-enable sort-by-expiry as it was because the queries were just too slow, but we might be able to figure out some alternative way of doing it instead

If it's important to you (or to anyone you know), please support the wish! CParle (WMF) (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks CParle (WMF)! @StefenTower and Sarsenet: Please take note. Kind regards, Grueslayer 15:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Email adress

If I want to add the email adress of a school that the designer I am creating a page for , what should I do ? Duboys Patrick (talk) 11:24, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Duboys Patrick. Don't - because email addresses shouldn't be on Wikipedia articles. qcne (talk) 11:28, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

If a person has an associated website, then it is acceptable to put a link to it in the infobox or as an external link. Many websites have a "contact us" email address but we don't include them directly. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Duboys Patrick.

The phrase you used "creating a page for" suggests to me that, like many people, you may a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is.

I urge you to replace "creating a page for" in your mind with "writing an encyclopaedia article about". This might seem picky (after all, you are wanting to create a page), but it might help you to remember that when you write a Wikipedia article about somebody, that article should be a summary of what people wholly unconnected with the person have chosen to publish about the person in reliably publications, not what the person themself want people to know about them. Sometimes it will be things that the person would much rather people didn't know about them - but if they've been published in reliable independent sources, then they should probably go in the article.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Auto archiving range

While the recommended range for an auto archive setup is at least 90 days, some articles such as Back to the Future, the range is 30 days and on the Anita Sarkeesian article is at 10 days. Meanwhile, the auto archive range for Robin Williams is set at 1 year.

Which auto archive range should be best for any article in general? Thanks. sjones23 (talk - contributions) 12:56, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

@Sjones23: It depends on the activity. Talk:Anita Sarkeesian was very active around 2014 and could grow above 100 kB even with fast archiving. Maybe it should be slower now. Most talk pages have never had a single discussion post. If a page actually needs archiving then 90 days is usually OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

I reduced the delay for RW. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks. Also, given the potential bot issues in archiving older discussions especially the ones that are very old, have unsigned comments, have missing section headers and/or formatting errors on any page(s), I sometimes move them to the correct archive pages manually, as I did when I moved a very old discussion (which had a general formatting issue) on the Talk:Charles M. Schulz talk page (which has a 60 day auto archive range) to its correct archive page.

Sometimes, I also use {{unsigned}} and {{undated}} templates for certain comments in sections so the archive bot(s) can put them into the proper archive page location(s). sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:14, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

My "Other not logged in" Account is being framed.

I am from a school in ipswich (not telling you) that has been framed by Brisbane Grammar school saying

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Brisbane Grammar School, you may be blocked from editing. InvadingInvader (talk) 02:14, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

AND I have gotten 14 complaints From November 2019 to August 2025. Ijdiwjdw (talk) 04:42, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

You have a shared IP address. No one is framing you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 06:27, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

@Ijdiwjdw: The message is from 2022 and somebody who had that IP address at the time did indeed vandalize Brisbane Grammar School by changing its name to Goofy Ahh School.[1] The IP address has vandalized many other articles before and since but that's typical for IP addresses belonging to schools. If you use your own device but connect to the Internet via a school Wi-Fi then you get the IP address of the school. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Incorrect photo?

This photo:

File:Annabel Elliot at State Banquet 2025-09-17 (0.75 crop).jpg

is not of the sister - Sonia Annabel Elliot - of Queen Camilla.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/202101414@N05/54805317564/

The source itself (above) does not even label her in its photo.

She looks nothing like Sonia Annabel Elliot who was very prominent and photographed at the Coronation of Charles III as the Queen's "assistant".

Please look into this

Thank you 49.185.106.252 (talk) 08:42, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Certainly looks like it could be her to me. Pinging the file uploader user:Robin S. Taylor. Meters (talk) 08:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello. The IP user is correct.

The woman in the image is Carlyn Chisholm, Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen, who is one of Queen Consort Camilla's 'Queen's Companions' (ladies of the court) and a member of the House of Lords. I am removing the image from Annabel Elliot's page. Aesurias (talk) 23:50, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Getty Images of Baroness Chisholm: https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/carlyn-chisholm-baroness-chisholm-of-owlpen-attends-king-news-photo/2227263940 Aesurias (talk) 23:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Help my article is being deleted

I didn’t mean to publish it it is fictional I mean to keep it as a draft but I accidentally published it Catlover1519 (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

The draft space facility on Wikipedia is provided as a means to assist in article creation only. Wikipedia is not a web-hosting service, and accordingly, works of fiction are as liable to be deleted from draft space as anywhere else. I suggest you make a backup off-Wikipedia quickly, and confine your editing of Wikipedia to its intended purpose only. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:31, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

@Catlover1519 You can request speedy deletion of anything that only you have authored by placing the template {{db-author}} at the top of its source code. I recommend you do so if it is still there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:08, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

FA Status question

Are some articles destined to never be able to become FA or GA? For example:

• They lie in the grey area where there are enough reliable sources to justify notability, but don't have enough coverage to offer a fully comprehensive article, without resorting to synthesis and/or original research of primary sources.
• They require synthesis to bridge unreported but still important context.

Thanks in advance. monkey_smashing^keyboards (talk) 00:44, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Anything that 'requires synthesis' has no business being in Wikipedia article space at all. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:49, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

That's my point - what if an article can't reach FA because the context required needs synthesis/original? monkey_smashing^keyboards (talk) 02:08, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

An article without context is clearly incomplete, and lacking content essential to justify its existence. If you need synthesis to establish context for an article, it isn't acceptable. FA status has no bearing on this whatsoever. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:32, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

@Monkeysmashingkeyboards: Don't synthesise any content into any Wikipedia article at all, ever. That will put you a very very short route to the out door. The WP:OR policy covers this "Articles may make an analytic, evaluative, interpretive, or synthetic claim only if that has been published by a reliable secondary". So, in this instance, the article will remain unwritten or specific section remain unwritten until sufficient secondary sources are available. Many, as in most articles never make it to even GA but they may be very well written. It is an unfortunate fact that the GA/FA is a victorian boutique process in the age of industrial manufacturing. scope_creep^Talk 07:04, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Monkeysmashingkeyboards The best place to ask for all things FA is at WT:FAC. —Fortuna, imperatrix 12:36, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Anne Lockhart

I was reading the Anne Lockhart page. It mentions the actress died, but it also has her living and speaks of her in the present tense. Since she was an actress and has family, I would think she has someone who they would like to have Edit her information. Is there a mechanism to let the editors know of the problem? I didn’t know whether there is a notification by page to authorized editors. Thank you. 2601:985:4100:50D0:5901:35D4:D0F5:C3A4 (talk) 02:10, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Please link the page you refer to. Anne Lockhart (actress) does not claim she has died. Her mother June Lockhart died five days ago but this is not mentioned in Anne's article. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:29, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

In answer to your more general questions: there is no such thing as an "authorized editor". You are an editor, I am an editor. (There are some articles that may not be edited by editors who are not logged into an account, or whose account is very new: see autoconfirmed. But most articles are not so restricted).

If you see an error or a problem in an article, you are welcome to correct it provided you don't add information without citing a reliable source, and you don't remove information which is cited to a reliable source. If you do do one of those things, the worst that will happen is that your edit will be reverted.

Alternatively, or if you are not sure how to fix it, the best thing to do is to bring the issue up on the article's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 14:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

What is the wikitext pound brackets?

What is the meaning of #[[#L1|^]] in Template:R? Is it a wikilink with special handling, or something totally different? Where is it documented? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 09:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

@Chatul: [[#L1|^]] links to a section or anchor called L1 on the same page and displays ^ on the link. See Help:Link#Section linking. In this case it links to a template-generated anchor. The first # is unrelated to linking. The template places it at the start of a line where it produces an ordered list. See Help:Wikitext#Ordered lists. More details at Help:List. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

So that first # is just a bog standard numbered list entry indicator?

Is there a way to get multiple backlins for an annotation, or only for the base reference? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, could you help with Chatul's follow up question? TSventon (talk) 01:13, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Chatul: I don't think annotations are supposed to have multiple backlinks but there is no technical hindrance to just writing them like a=#[[#L1|^]] [[#L2|^]] ... which uses ^ for both links. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:32, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

White colspan boxes

How do I get a blank colspan box to show as white in a table instead of gray? See my edit I just made on Ayumu Iwasa. Electricmemory (talk) 19:35, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Also see User:Electricmemory/Racing driver test page#Cup_Series_2- the rows 1982 through 1998 have white colpsan boxes, while the rows 1999 and 2000 have gray ones and I cannot for the life of me figure out the difference between them in the wikitext. Electricmemory (talk) 19:39, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Don't use header markup (!) for cells that aren't headers? Help:Table § Markup

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:44, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

What pronouns do animals use?

What pronouns do animals use? I see it/its on some articles, and they/them on others. It/its is much more common for invertebrates, and they/them are much more common for vertebrates, but there still is overlap in the use of pronouns. Thanks in advance. monkey_smashing^keyboards (talk) 19:44, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

@Monkeysmashingkeyboards:, I don't know, I haven't asked them. I can't see anything in the Manual of Style, so I would expect we follow what reliable sources do. You could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life if no one here has an answer. TSventon (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Maybe I don't understand the question – but it's normal to use "it" for a single animal and "they"/"them" for plural animals, regardless of whether they have backbones. Maproom (talk) 08:28, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

In English, some descriptions of a species may refer to it as if a single animal: "The Brown-spotted wigimacoop lives in South Narnia; it feeds on glorpleberries"; others use the plural. It's a matter of differing styles, with the former perhaps now dated.

Wikipedia:Manual of Style#plurals does not address this specific(!) issue, and I haven't found it in other guidelines, but I'm also not aware of any particular requirement for consistency of treatment between different articles, and achieving it would surely be a mammoth task.

I wonder if this has been discussed in any of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Directory/Science, technology, and engineering WikiProjects#Biology WikiProjects? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.208.246 (talk) 19:46, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Sectioning article for museum & Time magazine- Ernest Hamlin Baker

Hi, I need help immediately sectioning an article for Ernest Hamlin Baker. TheArtandVintage (talk) 23:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

It isn't at all clear what you are asking. We have the article on Ernest Hamlin Baker you have just edited, and one on Time Magazine, but what do you mean by 'sectioning'? If you are looking for help with a particular article, generally speaking the first place to ask is the article talk page itself, where those familiar with the subject are most likely to see it, and we generally try to avoid using email to discuss content issues - this is a collaborative project, where such matters are best done in public. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:06, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I am avoiding the talk section in that article because I own a historical document of Ernest Hamlin Baker. My everybody wiki will be a Wikipedia page itself. That will be uploaded shortly. So I just need to know how to section an article that is an existing article. As this article does not have a template thank you so much. TheArtandVintage (talk) 00:09, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I am avoiding the talk section in that article because I own a historical document of Ernest Hamlin Baker. My everybody wiki will be a Wikipedia page itself. That will be uploaded shortly.

my question: there is no template. I see HTML.

how do I put a section in an existing article?

So I just need to know how to section an article that is an existing article. As this article does not have a template.

thank you so much. TheArtandVintage (talk) 00:11, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, but that really isn't clarifying anything. What sort of template are you proposing to add, and to which article?

As for you owning a historical document concerning Ernest Hamlin Baker, that in of itself almost certainly isn't a sufficient basis to write an article on anything. Article content needs to be based around significant independent secondary coverage of subject matter, rather than around a document itself. I'd recommend reading Help:Your first article before proceeding any further. Creating new Wikipedia articles is tricky, and not something we advise newcomers to dive into without gaining more general editing experience first - it often ends in frustration. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:24, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Andy, again I am asking how would you apply a template to a pre-existing page?

Section: early life

Section: cartooning

Section: time magazine

Thank you TheArtandVintage (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I think you are asking about section headings, rather than templates: see 'Body sections' in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout. I'd be wary of breaking such a short article down into too many sections though - it can make an article look cluttered and disjointed. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:51, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

YES. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. They are not going to be short sections, but rather very detailed, that involve another museum’s rights and reproductions, and a archive that I cannot disclose.

can you walk me through this please? Thank you so much!! TheArtandVintage (talk) 01:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

'Museums rights' are only ever going to be relevant to an article if given significant discussion in sources independent of the museum, and an archive you 'cannot disclose' is clearly not going to be discussed at all. Verifiable sourcing is an absolute requirement for Wikipedia articles, and not something that can be ignored. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:28, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

It’s in NARA. Andy can you please walk me through the article that you directed me to: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout Thank you very much. TheArtandVintage (talk) 01:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Section headers are created by enclosing the title in == == formatting. I'd recommend looking at a few existing articles, and maybe copying one to your sandbox temporarily, so you can experiment with the formatting without messing anything important up. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:55, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Andy, I do and do not know what you’re talking about. I know what I’m reading, I just do not know how to apply this concept to a pre-existing page. I see your point of view about sandbox.

Would you mind assisting me personally by making this edit? I believe I need fo Wikipedia standards.

- Early Life

- Career (includes)

WPA - Works In Progress (The New Deal), Mural,

and Time Magazine

- Personal Life

- Death

I have tried to get in touch with the creator of the page Matt Me, but he is unavailable.

Also, how do I get in touch with Silver Locust? The art and vintage was worth a Google.

Thank you so much. TheArtandVintage (talk) 02:05, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I'll take a look later, and maybe add a few section headers, though while you are still adding content, there's no rush. If you are asking me to add content, I can't do that without sources, and I've neither any particular expertise regarding the subject matter, nor access to the sort of sources likely to be required. This is a volunteer project, and you can't expect other people to do research and write content on your behalf. As for contacting individual contributors, you can ask on their talk page, but really as wrote earlier you are better off using the article talk page, to get the maximum input from anyone who has the article watchlisted. The article creator has no special privileges, and from the look of it Matt me hasn't edited since last March, so you'll be lucky to get any response at all. Claiming that anything is a 'emergency' as you did on Matt's talk page isn't going to help either, since there is clearly nothing urgent about updating an article on an illustrator who died in 1975. Not to Wikipedia, anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey Andy — no content necessary. Everything is taken care of, it’s been a very long four years.

Just the sections at header thank you so much. I just need those header sections added that I had mentioned.

- Early Life

- Career (includes)

WPA - Works In Progress (The New Deal), Mural,

and Time Magazine

- Personal Life

- Death

Here’s what we’re working with right now. The South County History Center and my Web Archive from the Fine Arts Museum San Fran.

https://southcountyhistorycenter.org/ernest-hamlin-baker

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://web.archive.org/web/20210125052417/https:/*art.famsf.org/ernest-hamlin-baker__;Lw!!AqORqQbAXw!Mj3cYTDy1jxpFbNCrp7YOyDl62-G3X0WSrz1ztWFc59kwamnW0045sAno6ofAr2aam-FVBWxuLBauV7gOoY$

thank you so much, and it is very urgent. I appreciate you very much. I’d rather not add more content until the header sections have been added.

thank you again! TheArtandVintage (talk) 02:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't respond positively to repeated claims that something is 'urgent', entirely unaccompanied by anything remotely approximating to an explanation as to why. This is a help desk, for providing answers to basic questions about editing and using Wikipedia, it isn't a 'call up a contributor on demand' page, and frankly, I'm not particularly interested in helping you out, given that you appear to be attempting to use Wikipedia make some sort of claim to ownership of something-or-other. That isn't what Wikipedia is for. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:52, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

My apologies, Andy. For not explaining myself more clearly. Will you please assist me, in adding the header sections to the article as I request requested and you agreed to assist me with.

As you can imagine, it’s a lot of information for me to take in, and it’s subjective phraseology that I am not accustomed to.

I have had a conversation with Sheamous at Wikistewards. Every time I answer you, I am making a sworn statement as an Appraiser, and and Archivist.

Thank you for assisting me and adding those sections I requested that you had directed me to in the article.

I just need those header sections added that I had mentioned.

- Early Life

- Career (includes)

WPA - Works In Progress (The New Deal), Mural,

and Time Magazine

- Personal Life

- Death

I will never ask for anything ever again. Thank you so much. TheArtandVintage (talk) 03:28, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

The English-language Wikipedia isn't the slightest bit interested in your personal 'sworn statements', and as far as I can ascertain we have no contributor named 'Sheamous'. We base article content around published reliable secondary sources, and unless such sources, independent of the subject discuss something, we aren't going to. As for your section headers, the article doesn't currently have the necessary details to merit them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:41, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Andy, the wikisteward’s name is Sheamous. Should you not wish to take this on, Would you like to have another admin that you can recommend?

I very simply need the body sections added that you offered to add as per the article that you gave me.

I’m going to tell you again that I am editing this article on behalf of multiple organizations.

And I am simply asking for your assistance in adding body sections to the article as I cannot get in touch with Matt Me, who did not use a template.

- Early Life

- Career (includes)

WPA - Works In Progress (The New Deal), Mural,

and Time Magazine

- Personal Life

- Death

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout

You asked to see the citations and I gave them to you.

I assure you one of the organizations I belong to have a Wikipedia, and my sworn statement is extremely important in this thread and request.

It was worth a Google.

There is more than enough information and content that I have provided to fulfill the request that you have agreed to do.

If not, please direct me to an admin that can assist me. TheArtandVintage (talk) 04:10, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

The WMF, of which the English-Language Wikipedia is a part, has stewards, [2] given a few special rights regarding certain administrative functions. They do not however call themselves 'Wikistewards', and none would be advising you to be making sworn statements regarding your personal ownership of property, since this can have no bearing on article content. If you've been discussing this with someone from anywhere else (there are a lot of unrelated websites with 'Wiki' in their name), this is, yet again, of no relevance to us. And with that, I'm done here, since your repeated entirely unexplained insistence that this matter is 'urgent' and 'important' is getting tiresome. A simple request for help is one thing, but you seem to have entirely unrealistic expectations of how a volunteer-run project works, and a rather odd idea as to the purposes of the project. And apparently, some sort of WP:CoI. I suspect you will find that other contributors (admin or otherwise - admins have no special rights in determining content) will feel the same way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:40, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Andy. I am referring to the person that unblocks your IP address. Who has given me a certain level of administrative rights. You have gone on to disparage, defame, and humiliate, not just me, but another person whose article I have edited and that you have chosen to edit in the past.

You went on to assume that I was not related to other people that share my last name. You went onto assume that Wikipedia has no idea what I’m talking about.

You went onto to assume that the page pages that I am connecting this to also don’t know what I’m talking about, and did not give me permission, permissions and rights to do what I am doing.

You did not Google me, or you would know that I am a Supreme Court rape victim, and that is why I request requested a specific admin by the name of Silver Locust.

We’re going to do this one more time and then I’m going to delete this thread — with no consequences — as you appear to have obtained information about this article offering to assist me.

you have also given me the wrong information, become verbally, abusive, and combative.

I will repost this question. And you will allow someone else to answer me. TheArtandVintage (talk) 05:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Whether the above rant really merits a reply, I'm not entirely sure, but I'll respond anyway. So no, I didn't Google TheArtandVintage. There seemed no point in doing so, since as I have explained repeatedly, Wikipedia bases content on published reliable sources. Not random guesswork based around things I might find by Google (we are actively discouraged from engaging in unsolicited searching for off-Wikipedia information from contributors). So no, I knew nothing about TheArtandVintage being a rape victim. And as of now, I'm a little baffled as to how I am even supposed to know that could relate in any way to an article on a long-deceased illustrator. As for the rest, it is purest bullshit. Nobody has given TheArtandVintage 'a certain level of administrative rights'. I have done nothing to either permit or deny permission for TheArtandVintage to edit anything - I don't have the permissions myself to do so. Furthermore, as TheArtandVintage's posts above seem to make clear enough, there is some sort of WP:CoI involved here, and redacting this thread to obscure this fact is even more questionable. I see that TheArtandVintage has been blocked for 6H. Perhaps when they come back they can drop the bullshit, and give a straight answer to a simple question or two about what exactly this is all about. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Body Sectioning of Existing Article

Assistance in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout of existing article please. Thank you. TheArtandVintage (talk) 05:21, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

What assistance related to layout are you asking for, TheArtandVintage? -- Hoary (talk) 05:33, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Request to Upload Non-Free Images for IART Article

<paste the message here> Hello,

I am creating a Wikipedia article for the International Alliance of Racquet Technicians (IART), founded by Tim Strawn. I have three images that are non-free/copyrighted and I am requesting assistance to upload them under fair-use rationale.

Below are the details:

1. RSI Stringer of the Year plaque

Description: Tim Strawn’s award plaque for RSI Stringer of the Year, 2006

Source: RSI Racquet Sports Industry magazine, March 2006

Purpose / Fair-use rationale: Illustrates Tim Strawn’s recognition as Stringer of the Year. Minimal use in article.

Suggested file name: RSI_Stringer_of_the_Year_Plaque_2006.jpg

2. Roanoke Times Wimbledon article

Description: Newspaper article covering Tim Strawn’s first official Wimbledon stringing team assignment

Source: Roanoke Times, 2002 (exact date in the article)

Purpose / Fair-use rationale: Illustrates Tim Strawn’s professional experience on the official Wimbledon stringing team. Minimal use in article.

Suggested file name: Roanoke_Times_Wimbledon_2002.jpg

3. Wilson Techno Times article “4 Questions with Tim Strawn”

Description: Wilson Techno Times magazine article featuring Tim Strawn, November 2008

Source: Wilson Sporting Goods Techno Times, November 2008

Purpose / Fair-use rationale: Illustrates Tim Strawn’s recognition and career achievements. Minimal use in article.

Suggested file name: Wilson_Techno_Times_4_Questions_2008.jpg

All three images are used in the draft article for illustrative purposes only, are not replaceable by freely licensed media, and are critical to showing the subject’s notability and career accomplishments.

Thank you very much for your assistance!

Added at 00:14, 29 October 2025 by TStrawnVA

TStrawnVA, you were asking about a draft, not an article, which you were in the process of creating at User:TStrawnVA. That's an improper place for a draft, and I have therefore moved it to User:TStrawnVA/sandbox, where you may continue to work on it. As a draft, it's odd: It sets off being about the International Alliance of Racquet Technicians but seems to switch to being about Tim Strawn (who I suppose is yourself). You'd better decide which of the two -- and that's just one of numerous problems that this embryonic draft of yours faces. So, your request: (i) An article may not have two or more non-free images. (ii) A draft may not have any non-free image. -- Hoary (talk) 01:51, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

User page created on Indonesian Wikipedia?

I just received an email that a message was posted to my Talk page on the Indonesian Wikipedia. I don't speak Indonesian, and haven't manually created an account for it, nor have I made any edits on there. Why did I receive this message? The main public log also shows that my account was apparently automatically created on 6th July 2024, I'm very confused as to why it would be created at all.

Sorry if this is posted to the wrong message board, this seemed like the most relevant forum. TanyaK94 (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@TanyaK94: hi, Wikipedia sets up an account every time you visit a new Wikipedia while logged in, see Meta:Help:Unified login. Some Wikipedias then get a bot to post a welcome message, apparently including Indonesian. TSventon (talk) 01:11, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@TanyaK94: The bot run may come much later like here. There is a suggested policy at meta:Welcoming policy with discussion at meta:Requests for comment/Welcoming policy to disallow such welcome messages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter@PrimeHunter: Thanks for explaining. I agree that it's uncomfortable to receive such a message when I wasn't even aware of having an account on the Indonesian Wikipedia, which made me worry that my account was compromised. TanyaK94 (talk) 13:16, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know. I was worried that my account may have been compromised somehow. It would have made much more sense to receive that message at the time my account was created there, instead of over a year later. TanyaK94 (talk) 13:13, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I also got that today. It says I registered in January and I 100% have not been on it recently. I guess the bot is just mass sending messages right now. Maybe it was delayed or something. You probably want to ask on Commons. jolielover♥talk 18:42, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Image preview

I'm looking to change the preview image of a page (i.e. the image that appears in the preview when typed in on the search bar at the top of the page). How do I do this? I went to "page information" and the image that appears in preview shows there but when I go to edit the page information page, I don't see how to edit this specific image, as trying to edit that page just brings me to editing the general Wikipedia article, not the preview or its image. Helper201 (talk) 03:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

For context the preview image that is appearing for the page I'm looking to change is not the first image in the infobox on the page, so I'm not sure how to change it. Helper201 (talk) 04:23, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@Helper201: Please always be specific when you search help. It's so important that we ask for it twice in {{Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Help desk}} but there is still a frustratingly large number of posters who waste time by concealing where they want help. There is no general way to specify the image but the selection by the software can be influenced in different ways depending on the circumstances. Which page is it and which image do you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I’m trying to change the preview image of the page - Next Japanese general election - from the leader of the opposition (Yoshihiko Noda), to the Prime Minister and the leader of the largest party, Sanae Takaichi. The reason I wasn't specific is I didn't want someone else just doing it for me without me being made clear how to do this myself for future reference. Helper201 (talk) 05:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Helper201: There are very often circumstances which are important to helpers. There is some general information at mw:Extension:PageImages#Image choice but I don't know whether it's up to date. The infobox uses {{CSS image crop}} to only display a small part of File:Shigeru Ishiba and Sanae Takaichi 20241211.jpg. I don't know whether this is detected and causes a low score for the image. Maybe File:Shigeru Ishiba and Sanae Takaichi 20241211 (cropped).jpg would change it. The page image cannot be tested in preview. You have to save the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:20, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, done. Thanks for the help. Helper201 (talk) 05:01, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Dott Services

Request for Correction of Director’s Name on Dott Services Wikipedia Page

 Courtesy link: Dott Services

Dear Wikipedia Editorial Team,

I hope this message finds you well.

I am writing to kindly request a correction on the Dott Services Limited article. The article currently lists one of the company’s directors as “Komi Reddy”, which is inaccurate. The correct name of the director is K. Ram Mohan, as reflected in the company’s official records, including its Memorandum and Articles of Association.

For accuracy and consistency with verifiable company documentation, I respectfully request that the name be updated from “Komi Reddy” to “K. Ram Mohan.”

Should you require references or official documentation to confirm this correction, I will be glad to provide reliable supporting sources.

Thank you for your attention to this matter and for your continued efforts to maintain accuracy on the platform.

Kind regards,

Daisy Aketowanga

(On behalf of Mr. K. Ram Mohan) DAISY AKETOWANGA (talk) 14:07, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@DAISY AKETOWANGA: You're going to need to, since I'm tempted to just yank all of the names from the article for want of sourcing. And we do not take kindly to chatbot-generated posts; please write out your reply manually. (We don't care if your English is flawed so long as it is understandable.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 14:24, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @DAISY AKETOWANGA

First, you must make a formal declaration of your status as a paid editor - that link will tell you how to do so.

Then, you should use the Edit request wizard to request a change to Dott Services - the request will go on the talk page Talk:Dott Services.

Note that the edit you request should be as precise as possible (perhaps something like 'replace "Komi Reddy" with "K Ram Mohan, who replaced Kome Reddy on ... "'; and it will probably not be carried out unless you provide a citation to a reliable published source for the information. (Normally I would say, an independent reliable published source; but uncontroversial factual information like directors' names may be verified from non-independent sources). I observe that the Observer article cited (which has disappeared from the internet, but I added an archive of it from archive.org) does indeed name Komi Reddy, so you will need a source for Mohan. ColinFine (talk) 14:51, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Fake offer from "associate editor"

I received an offer to revise my personal wikipedia from someone claiming to be an "associate editor" of wikipedia by the name of Donald Robertson. I'm assuming it is fake and will ignore it. Let me know if I misunderstood! Richardparncutt (talk) 09:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Richardparncutt. There is no such thing as an "associate editor" on Wikipedia so that is reason enough to be cautious and suspicious. This is probably the opening gambit of an attempt to get money from you. Please read Wikipedia: Scam warning and Wikipedia:The truth about paid Wikipedia editing for some good advice. Cullen328 (talk) 09:39, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Richardparncutt, this self-styled "associate editor" may have got one thing right if he suggested that the article Richard Parncutt was in acute need of revision. Not enough of it is referenced to sources independent of the subject of the article (you). But problematic though the article is, I found it a fascinating read. If some harmless (unpaid) drudge of an editor here has a basic understanding of the perception of musical structure..., the psychology of music performance..., and the psychological origins of tonality, then I recommend that they look at the article. -- Hoary (talk) 11:52, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

For anyone who takes it on there's some good German sources referenced in the German version. Ultraodan (talk) 12:14, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Richardparncutt You could also make suggestions that would improve the article yourself: but please do so by making edit requests on its talk page rather than directly. More advice at WP:ASFAQ. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Info

My brother is a recording artist for about 20 years. If you look him up on the web he shows up everywhere he has a google panel what can he do so a Wikipedia page can be created for him his name is Felix Andino his website is www.felixandino.com thank you for your time Angela Lebron (talk) 09:25, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Angela Lebron. We have strict criteria for inclusion for musicians, which you can see at Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion (music). If your brother meets that criteria, someone may write a Wikipedia draft article about him. If he does not meet that criteria, an article is not possible.

Note that Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion or advertising, and your brother would not own a Wikipedia article about him if one was written: he wouldn't even be permitted to edit it himself. qcne (talk) 09:32, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

(ec) Wikipedia is not concerned with "Google panels", which assemble information from a wide variety of sources. If your brother meets at least one aspect of the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, an article may be possible- but please read conflict of interest. He might want to read the autobiography policy as well as why an article might not necessarily be desirable. Wikipedia is the last place to write about a topic, not the first. I suggest that your brother go on about the work of his career as if Wikipedia did not exist- if he is truly notable, someone will eventually write about him. 331dot (talk) 09:33, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

My picture in my profile

Please how I can add my picure to my profile Khogali Hind (talk) 15:17, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Khogali Hind: We are not a social media website, and userpages are intentionally NOINDEXed. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Khogali Hind I think Jeske may have been confused by your use of the word "profile". Wikipedia does not have profiles. You can certainly upload a photo to your user page. See Wikipedia:Uploading images for instructions. I suggest you also read Wikipedia:User pages. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:10, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Template/category to a match-case restriction to link suggestions linking to a page

I'm looking for something I can add to pages like The C Programming Language to prevent them from showing up when doing a suggested link edit especially because in the case of things like The C Programming Language, it prevents the article that actually should be suggested which is C (programming language). Apersoma (talk) 15:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Apersoma: I don't think that is possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Wikiquote not updating?

Why is wikiquote days behind? 24.254.81.81 (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Wikipedia and Wikiquote are separate projects, so there won't necessarily be anybody here that can answer you. I suggest asking at Q:WQ:VP. ColinFine (talk) 17:31, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Please link an affected page and say what you think needs updating. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Appropriate wikilink for a politician's political party

Hi all! Is anyone aware of a policy or guideline that discusses whether a state or local politican's political party should wikilink to the national party or their state's affiliated party? For example, should the infobox in an article about a Montana Republican state senator link to the Republican Party (United States) or Montana Republican Party?

I've looked everywhere I thought relevant and did not see any specific guidance. Jcgaylor (talk) 03:38, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

If they're only active in state/local politics link to the state party, if that article exists. Ultraodan (talk) 03:42, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

wikipedia post

how do we make posts here Splooshsplatoon7 (talk) 04:41, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

You just did. Well done, and welcome. HiLo48 (talk) 05:29, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Subscription

Dear Wikipedia, How have you managed to create such a wonderful humanistic resource, un-afflicted by commerce, with some premier minds dedicated to the project - and still precipitate a situation which alienates me and my ilk? I subscribe, I pay real money, I dont question or otherwise shirk anything less than 100% commitment - yet I cannot escape the cringy begger-fest of your funding drives. I dont want to see funding drives. I want to pay unencumbered by someone else's guilt. Why do you keep interrupting ME with begging? I pay to be left alone in this regard . I want a plug-in for Wiki on my browser. If you want more money - no problem - its yours. Re-engineered (talk) 08:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Re-engineered You can turn off the donation request banners in your account preferences. Click "Preferences" (probably at the top of the screen, the exact location depends on how you view Wikipedia), then Banners, then uncheck the "Fundraising" box. Presto, no more fundraising requests. 331dot (talk) 08:20, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Re-engineered: "Preferences" may also be in a menu on a person icon at the top right, or you can go directly to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners. Thank you for your donations. They are not required to use Wikipdia and give no benefits. Unpaying users have the same preference options. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:01, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Re-engineered Also note that Wikipedia does not need more money. See Wikipedia finances. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:03, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Administrator check

I have been contacted by Eric Cantor as a wikipedia administrator. He is not among the administrators listed on your site. I was just wanting to verify that he is genuine. 2A06:61C2:B073:0:A904:A08F:A06B:1958 (talk) 11:22, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

It sounds likely that you are being scammed. Please see WP:SCAM for details; Administrators don't have any say over content and will never contacf you off-site. CoconutOctopus talk 11:27, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

There is no administrator with that username. I don't know what the contact was about but if you have expressed interest in making or updating an article then it may be a scammer trying to get you to pay for no or poor service. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Book reviews as reference to topic

Can book reviews be used as a source referencing your subject as anauthor? Linwoods96 (talk) 16:25, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Linwoods96. A book review (provided it is reliably published as opposed to, eg Goodreads or Amazon) can be a useful source for what it talks about. Most book reviews talk mainly about the book, and so can be used to verify information in an article about the book.

Occasionally a book review will also contain significant material about the author, and in that case it may be used to verify information in an article about the author.

Does that answer your question, or have I misunderstood it? ColinFine (talk) 16:29, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Linwoods96 Watch out for blurbs published within the book itself. These are not independent, so can't be used to establish notability, although they may help with aboutself information. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:02, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

And be aware that some biographical blurbs about the author may contain untrue information (often as an 'inside joke'), and are sometimes entirely fictional when the named 'author' is a pseudonym. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.208.246 (talk) 19:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Image of Dame Louise Richardson portrait 2024 (cropped).jpg deleted

I uploaded the image in Louise Richardson's web page. When I uploaded, I did not note the Carnegie Corporation was owner of the copyright. Unfortunately, it was deleted by a bot I can't contact. How do I get the image back? thanks, Ronald Sexton Carnegie Corporation of New York Ronald Sexton (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Ronald Sexton.

You uploaded the image to Commons, at C:File:DLR January2024 A.jpg.

At present it has neither been deleted, nor marked for deletion. You received a message on your Commons talk page c:User talk:Ronald Sexton from a Bot explaining that the copyright status was unclear, and telling you what you needed to add, and that it will be deleted if you don't do so.

However, you have described the image as "own work", asserted that you, personally are "the copyright holder of this work", and purported to license the image irrevocably in such a way that anybody at all may use it, or derive an altered version of it, for any purpose, commercial or not, without requiring permission.

Is the image indeed your own work, and you control the copyright? If so, then you should edit the file page (linked to above) as explained in that message. You should also understand what permissions you have irrevocably granted.

If not, you must either get the real copyright holder to agree to release it under that license - see WP:donating copyright materials - or allow it to be deleted.

Commons is very particular about the copyright status of materials uploaded to it.

(In some circumstances, Wikipedia - not Commons - allows non-free images to be uploaded, but the relevant justifications would not apply in this case). ColinFine (talk) 19:28, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Apologies, @Ronald Sexton. I've just noticed that you are referring to a differently-named image. C:File:Dame Louise Richardson portrait 2024 (cropped).jpg was indeed deleted on 13 September, with a message saying "(No ticket permission since 13 August 2025)"

Most of my comments above still apply. ColinFine (talk) 19:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@Ronald Sexton I presume that the deleted file was cropped from C:File:Dame Louise Richardson portrait 2024.jpg. You were warned by a bot that there was a copyright problem at C:User talk:Ronald Sexton#Copyright status: File:Dame Louise Richardson portrait 2024.jpg and you replied on your talk page, but unfortunately bots don't read talk pages. The talk page message suggests taking any questions to C:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. TSventon (talk) 21:09, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Adding title to the page etc

So first of all when i search up my article Sarah Grace it doesn't show. and when it shows it doesnt show the title american youtuber. number 2 she is a famous youtuber so i wanted to make a page so i need a lot of help. no 3 i want to verify the page and get help to cite and reference info and add it to google so that when i search sarah grace her wiki i there next to her photo. i need a lot of help Articlewriter1 (talk) 20:58, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Articlewriter1.

You have created the article Sarah Grace, but new articles are not indexed by external search engines until they have been patrolled. Unfortunately, your article at present has no chance of being accepted by a patroller, and indeed is likely to get either moved to draft or deleted quite soon.

Unfortunately, this frequently happens when new or newish editors attempt the challenging task of writing an article without learning how Wikipedia works first. To take an analogy from housebuilding, it is as though you go "I know what a house looks like, so I will just start building one", without doing any of the essential preparation, like surveying, getting permits, or building foundations.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people, wholly unconnected with the subject, have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and not much else. What Grace or her associates say or want to say is almost irrelevant. What you (or I, or any random person on the Internet) know or think about her is irrelevant, except where it is backed up by reliable sources.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

electric kool-aid acid test: Help

I'm looking at the page for Tom Wolfe's book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. There are a couple sentences on the page that I don't unnderstand, or can't find the source for. Here are the lines: "The failed meeting with Leary marks a greater failure to unite the counterculture from East to West coasts. This becomes one of the turning points in the book, indicating that the new generation of “hippies” had officially outpaced the old Beat Generation in style and philosophy." A source only appears well below it as: "Fremont, "Books of the Times." The source doesn't make sense to me, and I can't locate it by searching anywhere. And I'm wondering if it's correct. Can you help? Thanks. 174.91.206.74 (talk) 22:01, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, the sentences you quote are part of the "plot" section of the article, also known as the plot summary. The plot summary should be based on the book, Tom Wolfe's The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, so it doesn't have to have citation footnotes. If you have more questions about those sentences, you could ask at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. TSventon (talk) 22:38, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing this. This is not a plot summary issue, this is what a reviewer said about the book. When the original proquest link stopped working someone just removed the url, but didn't look for the actual location of the New York Times book review. I've updated the reference. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:46, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

@StarryGrandma: the sentences quoted are in the "plot" section of the article. It is very possible that they are based on a review, rather than the book itself. TSventon (talk) 23:12, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Re: Donation Requests at the Top of the Page

This is not a question... more of an existential crisis, really. I've caved and donated money I don't actually have to Wiki more than a few times, but I guess I just want anyone to know that the $1-5 donation range has a significant % of people who are already forgoing food to keep the lights on... or keep the gas tank full so they can run the heater periodically during the wintertime. Neither circumstance is foreign to me. I grew up in an environment that warned me to be wary of Wikipedia, because nothing here is a real source. I was told to trust the bookshelves of my tiny, failing confederacy of 3 towns in the least populated state in what we currently call the United States of America. When I got into a very prestigious college on scholarship, one of my classmates looked up my hometown on Google maps and said "you're joking, right? Your public library looks like a public toilet!" I've always been poor. I thought learning and working to lift communities would change my circumstances. I don't know when I stopped actually believing that, but I still desperately want it to be true. I've never had expendable income... a discretionary budget? Whatever it's called. I can tell you that the $3.10 I just donated is a single bag of lentils and 2/5 of a bag of rice, which is what I've been eating almost exclusively for months. I don't want to ask why Wikipedia continues to plead for help, because I want to plead for help but I stopped believing that would amount to anything a long time ago too. I don't want to ask why this is necessary, because I know... I want to ask why 4 days worth of calories are my contribution to an attempt to keep historical accuracy alive, and why 1/10 of that was a transaction fee. I want to ask the future if they see me, because I don't have much faith that even a 51% majority of the knowledge this platform was designed to preserve will survive this wave of windmill-shaped anti-intellectualism ... and I'm much more certain I won't. I hope some aspect of what I've existed as and worked for survives, even if I don't. What are we even doing anymore? PedestrianBlueSocks (talk) 04:34, 1 November 2025 (UTC)