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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Desktop Theater

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Oh boy, here we go. So: this article violates WP:NOTPROMO, as most of the sources are puffy primary sources or online forums, or a primary source for the project itself. Next, this fails the notability guidelines for art and the general notability guideline, as a cursory search reveals no coverage in reliable secondary sources. This breaches WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:SUSTAINED. There's an MIT paper (and some more stuff). about the concept of "Desktop Theater," but that is seperate. The sources are also quite biased, as one of the big ones is the homepage for this project. Some others include an online chat room called The Palace. Bad, biased sources. This article should absolutely be deleted. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 23:04, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete aside from doing a brief web search and have yet to find potential RS sources, found that citations #3,#5,#6 are already deadlinks which I have already marked. article may have potential as an article for its proposed innovations, but if no new RS can be filled in. Not opposed to draftify as an ATD.Villkomoses (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am not finding any RS for this defunct project. Current sourcing do not show notability. See table below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://themagdalenaproject.org/sites/default/files/OP6_HelenJamieson.pdf	The Open Page	The Open Page The Magdalena Project produced this annual journal from 1996 to 2008, in collaboration with Odin Teatret	~ briefly metions a project of Desktop Theatre	? Unknown
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/05/technology/techspecial/the-time-is-now-bust-up-the-box.html			Passing mention of Adriene Jenik. No mention of Desktop Theater	✘ No
https://ajenik.faculty.asu.edu/desktoptheater/desktoptheater_content/howto/files/h_fr_01.htm			dead link	✘ No
Christiane, Paul. Digital Art			listing of a book (offline) no page number	? Unknown
https://people.brunel.ac.uk/bst/3no1/Papers/Julia%20Glesner%20Internet%20Performances.htm			dead link	✘ No
https://ajenik.faculty.asu.edu/desktoptheater/desktoptheater_content/archive/files/a_fr_01.htm			dead link	✘ No
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Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:58, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Weber (artist)

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Fails WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Artsy	Primary source database	User submitted content by galleries/auction houses with paid subscriptions	Non-independent user submitted data	✘ No
Harpers Gallery	Artist's gallery showing their work (PR)	Press release in the form of a personal letter from the galleries to the artist	PR, not a review	✘ No
27East	Press release in local paper submitted by the artist's gallery	Press release	PR, not a review	✘ No
Dan's Papers	~ large portion of the text is the artist talking about himself/his work	Profile in local paper	~ Hybrid profile/interview/PR for show	? Unknown
Glenn Horowitz Bookseller	Press release from a bookseller	PR	PR	✘ No
Women's Wear Daily "Fashion Scoops"	Women's wear trade journal	Trade journal for fashion, lifestyle and women's wear	Fashion scoop/society lifestyle (not a serious art magazine; text about Weber is partly occluded by a paywall.)	? Unknown
Gothamist	Local news blog	~ Widely distributed blog	Article is about a local controversy regarding his work, does not seem to be an art review	? Unknown
Grenning Gallery	Art gallery showing his work	Artist bio - user submitted content for selling artwork	Gallery listing	✘ No
Ochi Gallery	Filler. Art gallery press release for another artist	The gallery exist and but this is a press release for a different artist; it is only a name check mention of Weber	This is a press release for another artist, who simply mentions at the bottom that they had shown their work at Nick Weber's studio	✘ No
Boo Hooray Summer Rental	Press release for a show at Boo-Hooray Summer Rental, a "gallery that can be rented for shows in the summer"	PR	Press release, connected source	✘ No
KD Hamptons Art Scene	PR Puff piece local coverage	Press announcement in local "luxury lifestyle diary"	PR, press announcement in local lifestyle blog	✘ No
Chelsea Walls	Interview in the gallery's blog	Interview between artist and gallery	No editorial content, just a few questions	✘ No
Dan's Papers	~ Routine local coverage in local paper, interview with the artist's gallery	Local coverage in local paper	PR for the gallery showing Weber's work	? Unknown
Printed Matter	Book seller listing	Printed Matter is a bookstore selling his book	Book seller listing	✘ No
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Delete The source analysis table, a nice touch, is very compelling and I couldn't find anything else of worth. Couldn't find a single museum that contains a collection. References are profiles. Nothing really. scope_creep^Talk 16:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No Getty ULAN listing [1] and the source review table pretty much explains the rest. Lack of sourcing or critical review. Oaktree b (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I've spent quite a bit of BEFORE time searching of the kind of coverage needed for inclusion, and haven't been able to to find what's needed to substantiate this artists's notability per WP's criteria. The sources consist of user-submitted data, press releases, connected sources (such as galleries that show his work), hyper-local or PR trivial coverage, social media posts and primary sourcing. Does not meet GNG nor NARTIST at this time. Netherzone (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Kevin Rodney Sullivan#Directing credits. There's a consensus that this is not notable, redirecting to Kevin Rodney Sullivan as the most commonly mentioned target. Goldsztajn (talk) 09:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Law and Mr. Lee

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This is not a film, but a TV pilot (for CBS) that was filmed and not picked up - an extremely common occurrence in TV. It never aired and it never will, despite this implying it did in 2003. Coverage is routine for pilot production. DoubleCross (‡) 17:37, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The article has no claim of significance, and I can’t find any source talking about this pilot, besides IMDB (not reliable) and some random blog. Given the extremely short article and utter lack of coverage, it doesn’t seem like there’s much to write about it. ApexParagon (talk) 18:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non-notable television pilot, certainly not a film. Nathannah • 📮 18:54, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Some confirmation [2] but it's purely fan sites or imdb listings. This is non-notable. Oaktree b (talk) 22:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Danny_Glover_filmography#Television. If there was confirmation it had aired or otherwise received a release it could redirect to List of American films of 2003, but we don't have that so filmography it is. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Kevin Rodney Sullivan: (Director). Notable crew and extremely notable cast so that this the most standard alternative to deletion for not so notable films/series when the director has a page. Opposed to deletion. (added one source and the presence of Rosanna Arquette in the cast) -Mushy Yank. 23:34, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: I have no problems with this redirecting to the director - my main thought with this redirecting to Danny Glover was that the sources seemed to focus on him. Either one is fine though. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 01:43, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:11, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arts Council~Haliburton Highlands

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Arts council that fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. A BEFORE search, I could not find any other sources that weren't liked to the organization or a brief, trivial mention, it has got some local news coverage, but I'm not sure if that can cement notability. Not to mention almost the entire article's tone is promotional. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:04, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Keep The Arts Council- Haliburton Highlands has received independent + detailed in local news at the very least [3][4]. The events they put on in the region have also received non-trivial coverage [5]. They received direct support from the Canadian government to start an ongoing symposium on performing arts in rural communities [6]. News about the organization has been presented in the Toronto Star as well [7] .This coverage spans at least a decade, so it's not a small burst. Between the primary source of its website and local coverage that is sometimes included in major Canadian newspapers, it seems like the council is notable + provides a significant amount of arts programming in the Haliburton region. I vote to keep though I agree the article should be updated.
Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:31, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply sources 1,2,3 and 5 come up with 404 pages, are they availble on the Wayback Machine? ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 01:44, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I malformatted the links. The links are fixed and the pages are still live. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 22:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete It is more of a promotion for the orgnaization than anything else. Was created by a single pupose editor in 2009 with not much editing from any other editor since. Probably COI issue. Ramos1990 (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - The original author itself was banned in 2009 for being an advertising account, something seems fishy here. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: A lot of the article text concerns the history of arts initiatives in the area prior to the formation of this Arts Council: such content probably belongs in Haliburton_County#Arts_and_culture (suitably referenced, though). That leads to a wider suggestion that a merge and redirect may be a possibility? AllyD (talk) 07:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would be happy with this outcome. There is probably enough coverage available to make a standalone page about the arts in the Haliburton area if the section in Haliburton County becomes too lengthy. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 01:34, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - although I'm starting to get on the fence of notability, the article does have a pretty large COI and PROMO issue. Maybe the article should be WP:TNT? ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the sources provided in this discussion - particularly the Toronto Star article - confirm notability. The content itself should be improved - but that's a different discussion. Nfitz (talk) 21:55, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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St+art India Foundation

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The foundation does not meet WP:NORG. References 1 and 3 are not independent, and Reference 2 is about the founder's passing. Online searches return only trivial mentions with no in-depth, independent coverage. Junbeesh (talk) 07:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Delete as per nomination. Fails WP:GNG and not found any WP:RS. Misopatam (talk | contribs) 07:46, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete sources do not demonstrate significant coverage. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doodle Kids

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Fails WP:NWEB and WP:GNG as a software application with hardly any coverage, let alone sustained coverage. Notability issues tagged since 2017. jolielover♥talk 09:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm not finding enough in a BEFORE search at this time to substantiate the notability of this software. There are several mentions of it (not sigcov), but these are trivial or from poor quality sources. Netherzone (talk) 17:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fire (artscene group)

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Article tagged as unsourced since 2014. While technically the external links and releases are source, I have not been able to find any other sources that might contribute to notability, including while searching for the founders name instead of the generic "Fire". Attempted to PROD, was removed on the grounds that a generic name and pre-internet subject deserves more attention, so taking this here. Rusalkii (talk) 00:24, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I am not finding any RS on the internet for this unsourced article on a graphics company. In fact Computer art scene and its sister "Category:Artscene groups" seem to be questionable. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:50, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Seems to be original research. A BEFORE search finds nothing at this time. A search of the WP library did not return any hits for me. Netherzone (talk) 17:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - very cool stuff, but I could not find reliable sources for it. MarioGom (talk) 19:25, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Singing candle

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Looking through the history of this article, it seems to have been an art project by the Belgian Bains::connective (an archive of their website). Their website seems to be the only source that has ever been in the article, and the article's original illustration was sourced to that site too. As you can see from that image (and old versions of the article and site), the art project also seemingly made some concerningly fringe connection with psychology/telepathy. More to the point my WP:BEFORE failed to find any coverage in WP:RSs covering this either as a feedback demonstration or as an art project, and thus I can't see this meeting WP:GNG. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 15:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: You can seem to buy something similar on the various online stores, but I don't find sourcing we can use for notability. Whatever this stub article is, it has no sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 15:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b, While it wouldn't be a reliable source, I would be interested if you could share such a listing, as everything I can see on online stores are candles (real or fake) that play music, as opposed to the subject of the article which is a feedback experiment which uses a loudspeaker connected to a light sensor to make interesting sounds (and is somehow telepathic?) Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 15:18, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, it's just Amazon and Walmart links to singing candles or birthday cards. Nothing useful here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ~~or redirect to Rubens tube~~ - It's a cool idea but it's not a notable subject or artwork. Fails GNG. Netherzone (talk) 15:21, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or incorporate into another article. This stub has somehow survived almost 20 years with no references and no notable sources mentioning this specifically. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 21:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tomasz Młynarczyk

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No indication of significance but potentially notable. Note tag been on the article for 1+ years. I think it probably fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV but don't hold me to it. scope_creep^Talk 09:57, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - the article has an interesting history to be aware of. It was created by a now globally locked account, part of the "Put Radzyn on the map" campaign to promote the town of Radzyn. So I think the sources should be examined very carefully, to analyze which ones are public relations, local promotion, or advertorial content like native advertising that may look like an actual article in a publication but it actually PROMO. Holding off on !voting for now. Netherzone (talk) 14:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak delete - After going through all the sources in the article, and conducting an online BEFORE search, here's what I found: quite a few hits for this photographer, but they are press releases, or event announcements, and photo credits in various publications. A lot is taken directly from Wikipedia. It seems he is a much loved and respected local photographer, who has photographed a broad range of subjects. However most of the sources in the article are primary sources. Some of the citations that look like book reviews are actually synopses written by the photographer himself, and published by the Zwiazek Polskich Artystów Fotografików - Association of Polish Art Photographers, of which he is a member, so not independent. What I did find that contribute to notability are: He designed a stamp for Poland: [8]; review of one of his shows in a newspaper (which I think is local Wyborcza.pl LUBLIN): [9]; and this article, but it is unclear exactly what the publication is but appears it may be an academic journal, info: Młynarczyk, Tomasz. 2011. "Exhibition "Archive - Form And Light and Shadow". Archives – Kancelarie – Collections, No. 2(4)/ (December):195-219. https://doi.org/10.12775/AKZ.2011.007. [10] and another way to access the article: [11]. If kept, the article needs clean up. Netherzone (talk) 15:10, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Wyborcza is a major Polish newspaper, so it covering his exhibition is a suggestion of GNG, even if, yes, its one of their local (regional) editions. The "academic" article linked appears to be from the subject himself. I am not seeing much else outside was was found above; I think all things considered he is not notable enough for Wikipedia (only the GW article seems to meet slightly stretched GNG/SIGCOV/independent requirements). PS. I nominated it on pl wiki for deletion (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie/2025:04:30:Tomasz Młynarczyk). It tends to be more inclusionist. Perhaps someone will find new sources or arguments there, I'll update my comment here if there's anything there that I feel is worth mentioning here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:16, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Association of Professional Design Firms

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Organization that fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV was found. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 21:02, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Art Fight

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Fails WP:GNG. Besides the The Verge source referenced, I couldn't find any other independent coverage. ~ A412 ^talk! 17:14, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Other than the Verge, there are no sources to be found. I can only get hits on various uses of the term. Sourcing in the article is primary otherwise, no nothing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 00:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I agree that it fails WP:GNG. Is there no other subject-specific notability test that this might fall under? It's an event with 400k participants, which seems logically notable to me, but I'm not as well-versed in Wikipedia's notability guidelines as you folk are. Aspharon (talk) 13:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails GNG, and also WP:NGAME, and also WP:NWEBSITE. Although it is popular, there is no inherent notability for this type of online event or Internet forum, and popularity does not guarantee that a subject is notable per WP's criteria. Netherzone (talk) 17:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Architecture

Parbad Kali Mandir

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This article on a temple does not satisfy general notability with its current references, and has been moved to article space after being declined at AFC, and then was moved to draft space and back to article space twice. Review of the sources shows that they are not independent.

Number	Reference	Remarks	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	Jagran (in Hindi)	About renovation of the temple. Appears to be an interview between the news and the temple.	No	Yes	Yes	No
2	Youtube (in Hindi)	Youtube	Probably not	Don't know	No	No
3	www.livehindustan.com	About renovation of the temple. Reads like a release from the template.	No	Yes, just barely.	Yes	No
4	hindi.news18.com	News article about the significance and popularity of the Kali Temple in Deoghar	No	Yes, just barely.	Yes	No
5	www.livehindustan.com	About the history of the temple. Appears to have been written by the temple.	No	Yes	Yes	No

Better sources probably can be found, but the article is still not ready for article space.

Draftify as nominator, to be moved into article space ONLY by AFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:02, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I would like to formally express my opposition to the deletion of the article on Parbad Kali Mandir. I believe that this temple holds significant historical, cultural, and religious importance, and deserves to be included on Wikipedia. While the sources currently cited may not meet the ideal reliability standards, I am in the process of gathering additional, more authoritative references that can help demonstrate its notability.

The temple is not only an important religious site for the local community, but it also holds cultural significance, and I am confident that better sources can be found to back these claims. The current sources, while they may appear promotional or limited in scope, offer a starting point. I am more than willing to contribute further to the article to ensure that it meets Wikipedia's standards for verifiability and neutrality.

I kindly request that the deletion be reconsidered, and the article be allowed to remain in article space while I work on improving the content and references. Additionally, I would be open to collaborating with other editors to strengthen the article’s foundation and ensure that it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines.

Thank you for your understanding and consideration. 2405:201:A400:725C:A023:F99E:F4C2:22D7 (talk) 12:31, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Can you explain how this is an interview? Yes, there is an accompanying news video that involves interviewing someone, but the news article itself doesn't appear to be an interview. And it is explicitly about the history of the temple. Silver seren^C 06:49, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am writing to express deep concern and strong opposition to the deletion of the article on Parbad Kali Mandir. This temple is not just a structure of stone; it represents the heart and soul of a community that holds it dear. For those who are connected to it, Parbad Kali Mandir is a place of spiritual importance, cultural richness, and historical significance.

It deeply saddens me to see that such a meaningful and revered place might be erased from the pages of Wikipedia due to issues of notability. Parbad Kali Mandir is more than just a local landmark—it is a symbol of devotion, a living history that has shaped generations. This temple has been a site of prayer, peace, and reflection for countless people, and its significance goes far beyond what is easily captured in a few sources.

I understand that Wikipedia requires reliable and independent sources, but the cultural weight this temple carries in the region is undeniable. The lack of independent, scholarly articles on it does not diminish its true value. To erase this article would not just be the deletion of a page, but the erasure of a piece of history that holds deep emotional and spiritual ties for so many.

I sincerely ask for your compassion and understanding. Rather than deletion, I urge you to allow this article to remain in article space. With the support of the Wikipedia community, this entry can be improved, expanded, and enriched to meet the required standards, all while preserving the essence of what makes Parbad Kali Mandir so important to so many.

Please reconsider, and let the memory of this sacred site live on, not just for those who know it, but for future generations to understand its significance.

Thank you for your time and consideration. 2405:201:A400:725C:A023:F99E:F4C2:22D7 (talk) 12:34, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find additional news sources (or published books) covering the temple in Hindi or just other Indian news sources we were unable to find, that would be helpful. Silver seren^C 16:03, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify or Delete. I was the second AFC reviewer for this page. I declined the draft because of no significant coverage just as it was declined by previous AFC reviewer. Sources were poor and unreliable. Creator then moved the draft to mainspace without following up on feedback. It was reverted but the creator moved it back again to mainspace. I still do not see any improvement to pass notability. If draftied, I would suggest a move lock. RangersRus (talk) 23:53, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you address and explain the sources more directly then, RangersRus? Because the table up above seems incorrect in multiple aspects and I don't see anything about the sources being "poor and unreliable". Could you explain what you mean by that? As they seem like normal news articles about a location. Silver seren^C 00:23, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Youtube is unreliable and live hindustan reliability is questionable. Jagran and News18 are poor with no reliable significant coverage. Jagran article is on renovation of the temple and need for 1 crore rupee for it. News18 disclaimer for the story based on legends, says "The information given in this news has been written after talking to astrologers and acharyas on the basis of zodiac sign, religion and scriptures. Any incident, accident or profit or loss is just a coincidence. Information from astrologers is in everyone's interest. Local-18 does not personally endorse anything stated." One of the livehindustan article is also on same legends and mythology, and these news also reads like "Paid news and undisclosed advertorials" per WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 01:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bernd Sikora

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Contested prod without improvement. Currently sourcing does not show they pass WP:GNG, and searches did not turn up with enough in-depth sourcing from independent, reliable sources to show they meet GNG. And they do not appear to meet WP:NSCHOLAR either. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Keep - has a German-speaker done WP:BEFORE? Most/all sources will be in German. Johnbod (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Looking at the history of this article, it appears to be a translation of the poorly sourced German article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Sikora. No sources there to help sustain the biographical information and claims made in the article. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have revisited this article several times. I've made some edits, but am unable to find RS to show notability. Sikora designed an observation tower and a footbridge. The sourcing for this information is miriquidimedia.de (Miriquidi Media), which looks to be a site about Sikora that promotes his books, project and tours. I don't think it can be considered an independent source. The citation for the biographical information is a dead link. The listing for books have citations that don't link anywhere, just hyperlink for ISBN and hyperlink to the Wikipedia pages of the German region the book covers. I have not found anything on the internet to show notability. The fact that there might be something somewhere in German needs to survive WP:BURDEN --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stefanos Sinos

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Deprodded without improvement. Current sourcing does not show notability, and searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG, and with a high citation count of a whopping 11, and not seeming to meet any of the other criteria, does not meet WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. I can't find notability in GNG or Prof. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Per comments below and Talk, the original article has been somewhat improved and the subject's notability is now more clearly visible. Perhaps you could have another look. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:01, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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~~Delete~~ : The Gbooks link above shows several volumes either citing or discussing this author, in English and German. He worked on the Parthenon among other things, I'd say these show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you clarify please? Bearian (talk) 03:55, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is your vote for delete while the comment seems to be in favour of keeping? Moritoriko (talk) 03:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Oaktree b: You say above that these show notability. With this in mind, could you please clarify your !vote or restate your view? Also, some of the deficiencies of the original article have now been improved, so perhaps you wouldn't mind taking another look? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 06:56, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep sorry, I clicked on the wrong button. We have enough for a small article and the items I mentioned in my comment show critical notice. Should have enough for a weak keep. Oaktree b (talk) 13:06, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't speak Greek, but I suspect that we may be applying our RS criteria only for English sources here. There seems to be more – and quite possibly enough to justify keeping the article – in Greek about Στέφανος Σίνος (e.g., a number of books, various articles including this one showing Sinos giving a tour of Mystras to Giscard d'Estaing, etc.). I think we may want to pause and look a bit deeper. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (2): Further to the above, we have two entities on wikidata (d:Q113809331 and d:Q131292844), which I suspect may actually be the same person. If you look at a few of the entries in the first (such as the American Academy), the date ranges seems to correspond more closely to the subject of the second – which is to say, the subject of this discussion (I've depreciated the 1900 dob in the Wikidata record as a precaution). This needs more work, but it seems like it also points towards keeping the article (and tagging it with the appropriate maintenance tags, etc.). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: The two Wikidata entities have now been merged (confirmed as same person) resulting in correct display of the various Authority Control databases in which Sinos appears (NB: w:Template:Authority control configured with "expanded" parameter for the duration of this discussion). This adds further weight to the argument for keeping and improving the article. It may be difficult to find English language sources (for myriad reasons), although his last book on the Archaeological Site of Mystras seems to have been either written in or translated into English. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per comments above. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:55, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I would think that Sinos could qualify for NProf via criteron 1, has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, with the books that I am seeing published. I don't know how citation counters work but from what I know I think they tend to focus on papers instead of books? (please correct my misunderstandings). And following from Cl3phact0's research above. Moritoriko (talk) 04:00, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Citation numbers apply to books also. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I agree that the case for NPROF appears fairly strong. Also, in addition to the Mystras book (and the several decades of work it documents), his book on pre-modern architecture looks as if may be a standard university textbook on the subject (according to the publisher, it was reprinted as recently as 2023). I haven't yet looked for more about the older publications, as I'd rather prefer to spend my time on other articles until the outcome of this AfD has been decided. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 06:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The list of publications appears to indicate notability in the fields of archaeology and architecture. Is there any reason why they shouldn't? P Aculeius (talk) 15:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I can see. However, I will say, in deference to the original nom, that it was (is) exceedingly difficult to make sense of or even decode the relevant references and citations, most of which were literally in Greek at the outset of this process. Sinos's notability was very much obscured by this fact (as well as the messy data at Wikidata – now somewhat rectified). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article has been incrementally improved. As such (and prior to pouring too much more time into it), per discussion on Talk, I'm requesting that the original nominator et al. re-evaluate the nom based on current state of affairs and ~~my belief~~ the evidence that NPROF is now a valid justification for keeping this article. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Foresters House

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Article about an office building, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for office buildings. As always, buildings are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage and analysis of their architectural, historical, social or cultural significance -- but this doesn't make any meaningful notability claim over and above existing, and is referenced almost entirely to primary sources that aren't support for notability. The only reliable source present here at all is an insurance industry trade magazine, which is here solely to tangentially verify the name of the company's CEO rather than supporting any information about the building in its own right.
Since it's the headquarters of a company that does have an article under WP:CORP terms, any information we need about its head office can easily be contained in the company's article -- but in order to qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the company, it would need a much stronger notability claim, and much better sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 19:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Does not appear to have sufficient notability to pass WP:NBUILD. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 23:27, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Does not appear notable, could not find any meaningful sources. silviaASH (inquire within) 06:32, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Articles about designated heritage buildings is something that we should be expanding on Wikipedia. This is a prominent and very well-known building - you even see mention of it in fiction, such as [ short stories] by Austin Clarke. There has been coverage over the last half-century, such as this significant trade article when it was sold in 2022. There was national media coverage when it was constructed, such as in the Globe and Mail (ProQuest 1270450320). Even if the article isn't deemed worthy of inclusion, it's most certainly should be merged and/or redirected to Foresters Financial. Nfitz (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- If it is a designated heritage building then it passes WP:GEOFEAT. But I can't see any evidence that it is. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ : Not a listed heritage building, so no listing there to help. I don't see news articles about this place, appears to be just another high rise in Toronto. No real sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 00:04, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

put the wrong address in, it's listed under Part IV of the Ontario Heritage Act. [12], but that's not enough for sourcing. Let's see what else we can find. Oaktree b (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lengthy heritage study attached to the by-law [13]. Coverage here [14], column down on the left, suggests there is coverage of this in a book about the architect. Oaktree b (talk) 00:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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