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Sparrow Night (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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News Tower appears to be notable, but this studio is not notable. A merge to the game seems apt, though it would become a problem if the studio released more than one game. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 09:22, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect per nom, textbook case for WP:NOTINHERITED. IgelRM (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to News Tower, not independently notable. ~ A412 talk! 23:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to News Tower. There really needs to be an essay on how WP:NOTINHERITED applies to creators of works where sourcing on the works is the only evidence provided to support the notability of the creator. That generally fails WP:GNG every time. VRXCES (talk) 12:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's some subtlety though and I think it differs by field of work. For video games, films, and television, we tend to have articles on the works first, and tend to construe information on the creators as information on them creating that work. For music and visual art, we tend to have articles on the creators first. Literature is a mix. ~ A412 talk! 21:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To Pixelia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unfortunately a non-notable game. Sourcing is just not there for a recently-released game and is mostly drawing from the Steam page. The cited Metacritic page is empty. The Reception section has a paragraph dragging out a non-RS review from GamerBlurb and significant attention to the Steam reviews which is not encyclopedic. The article's layout reads written like an LLM output that doesn't match the citations. A quick search for any review coverage doesn't yield much. VRXCES (talk) 06:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Steve AJ Broad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable biography of a developer. The 'biography' is constructed mostly from stringing together primary sources being the database entries of the developer's games. There isn't as I see it much reliable secondary information or coverage provided on who this developer is, what their background is, and much beyond that their name is attached to these titles. One exception is the mention of a Retro Gamer interview that is WP:OFFLINE. Even if the developer's body of work had significant coverage - which it doesn't - the article unfortunately contradicts the general principle that notability for one topic is not generally inherited from the notability of its subtopics - there's just not enough about Broad himself here to warrant an article. VRXCES (talk) 07:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a bunch of WP:Original research with Spectrum Computing refs. Delete. IgelRM (talk) 19:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the details that you have noted. So far, I have only been able to provide a string of references to reliable sources to create this page. Obviously, over time, I would be adding more as I find it to cover more information about Broad. So far, I have found 35 reliable references that I have linked. This is more than many pages on Wikipedia, and I believe there is enough information stored at all the sources to warrant a page on Wikipedia. Broad has a long standing in the games writing industry where he has supported the retro gaming community, that has become increasingly popular in recent years. There are not enough pWikiaedia pges referencing the gaming history pioneers. A page of this nature does take time to develop.
Many thanks! Wiper2001 (talk) 20:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey mate, with respect, reliable sources giving rise to notability are generally not primary sources. Other than Retro Gamer, the article's prose is strung together from inferences made about the creator pretty much only from listing all of his games, none of which seem independently notable. There has to be significant coverage from secondary sources to warrant a biographical article about someone. This is just a list of games. VRXCES (talk) 11:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this is where Wikipedia fails when those sources are not available currently but may be in the future. I am surprised that the urge to simply delete the whole page is the only item on the agenda. No options to move it anywhere have been mentioned. Just simply nominate for deletion because there are not enough secondary sources. The page has only been online for a week and these things usually build up over time. I guess it will be deleted because not enough time is given to develop it. Wiper2001 (talk) 08:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Grow a Garden (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable. The PCGamesN article is the only usable source for establishing notability. (The Kotaku article does not count for the site's articles since 2023 are considered unreliable.) Edit: If you're going to say this game is notable because of its popularity, then I'd like to remind you that popularity doesn't equal notability. ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 00:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a Roblox user, i will say that half of Grow a Garden's player base are bots who will hack the game, make loads of the in game currency, and sell the Roblox account on eBay for money. 73.227.75.102 (talk) 01:06, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and Draftify as article creator. I already thought the sourcing was in shaky grounds when I first wrote the article, but my personal research into the ownership of this game showed me that there are unresolvable NPOV problems with the article subject based on current sourcing. Controversial articles need strong sources, not marginal ones. However, there is good chance that stronger sources emerge, so I recommend draftification. Ca talk to me! 01:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Roblox games per Masem. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 01:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, lets make it redirect to the list of Roblox games article. 73.227.75.102 (talk) 14:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and Draftify Looked a bit, found an article in a publication called "Roonby" that doesn't have much credentials. Other than that, also can't find anything. Nice to have articles on niche games when possible, but it seems unlikely other reputable publications have written articles on it. Mrfoogles (talk) 03:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Draftify Maybe if this game gets more coverage by different news sources, we can reinstate this article. Roblox games have very little representation in Wikipedia right now. Let's just wait to see if this game gets more coverage. We should also attempt to get more Roblox games on Wikipedia. Toketaatalk 12:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weed Hack Premium Beta (Internet Phenomenon) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No secondary sourcing or indication of notability, with the article itself stating As of May 2025, no major Minecraft modification community sites have reviewed the client. A WP:BEFORE give me nothing more than Reddit threads. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

K-ID (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources consist of funding reports and product launch announcements. ~ A412 talk! 20:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found a feature on Donovan from law.com. IgelRM (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Smoking Gun Interactive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed PROD. Appears to fail WP:NCORP. Sources mostly relate to Age of Empires: Castle Siege, so I suggest redirect or merge there. IgelRM (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tales of Commons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was a redirect, blown up to article size--but the supplied links are basically all company sources and manuals, and I cannot find any secondary sources either. A redirect to Tales of Mobile is the proper solution. Drmies (talk) 19:28, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ilyas El Maliki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted article via WP:AFD in March and nothing has changed since then. The nomination statement in the first AFD and comments therein remain valid. Mekomo (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Deletion
This article substantially improves upon the previously deleted version by adding verifiable, independent sources demonstrating Ilyas El Maliki’s notability per WP:GNG:
  1. Global Digital Influence: Ranked by Dexerto as the 12th-largest Kick streamer worldwide and Africa’s #1.
  2. International Sports Role: Official chairman of Morocco’s national team at the Kings World Cup 2024, (Video of the game on Kings League's channel), with repeat invitation for 2025 alongside stars like Lamine Yamal.
Addressing Systemic Bias
While I respect Wikipedia’s deletion processes, I must note the recurring difficulty in establishing notability for clearly significant figures from Morocco and the broader MENA region. Despite providing verifiable, independent sources (including industry rankings and international tournament participation), articles like this face disproportionate scrutiny compared to Western counterparts with similar or lesser achievements.
I urge editors to consider whether this reflects unconscious bias rather than policy compliance. Improve articles, not deleting them, should always be the first option. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or speedy delete per previous AfD, little change. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Contesting Deletion
the original article of the subject got deleted because claimed "No real sign of notability", I list a number of sources proving that the subject is indeed notable:
- International Tournament Participation: Kings League World Cup 2025.
- Top 15 Streamers Worldwide: ranked at 12.
- Massive coverage by Moroccan press both in English (more), and Arabic.
if all these still don't make the subject notable, then sure go ahead and delete. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Update:
just to add one more thing (a fact and a message):
The first 3 months of 2023, the subject of this article was the most streamed gamer on YouTube, surpassing IShowSpeed, all this achieved through a dialect (Darija) spoken by about 40 million people, not a major language (English spoken by over 2 billion people). But somehow he is not notable!
It's really demotivating to continue contributing to Wikipedia against all these (unconscious) biases. This is not an accusation, it's studied and proved, "Reliability of Wikipedia". We come here with good intention to contribute, but seems like not on English Wikipedia, unfortunately. El Maliki is literally the biggest streamer in all of Africa according to all reliable sources included (like Dexerto).
respectfully, ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (still new here, I just learnt that this is the right term)!
so, since these discussions are NOT VOTES, then it should be that if 1 editor is able to present sufficient RSs on the subject, it won't matter how many spam "speedy delete"
Allow me to list an organized number of RSs testifying to the notability of the subject of this article:
  1. The most watched streaming gamer of the first quarter of 2023 (surpassing IShowSpeed), Dexerto & SVG.
  2. The 6th highest peak viewed stream on Kick's history (Surpassing Adin Ross, he literally had a stream with President Trump while running for office, still got surpassed by a guy speaking a dialect of 40 million people), Dexerto.
  3. 12th biggest streamer worldwide, Dexerto.
  4. His Ultra was the first team selected for the 2025 Kings World Cup Club, the official and sole chairman of the Kingdom of Morocco on a world-class international competition, Kings League Pro.
  5. His life largely covered by multiple RS in different languages: UAE's Al Mashhad, Morocco's most popular press outlets and most RSs: MWN, L'Opinion, Hespress, Le360, and much more.
It's not that difficult to look up stuff on Google. Best ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Hoping to have a discussion and evaluation of above sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HilssaMansen19 (talk) 10:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Several of the above sources were highlighted in the previous deletion discussion and practically all of it was deemed not suitable enough to establish notability beyond mere shallow coverage of his criminal record. See WP:SIGCOV. λ NegativeMP1 16:16, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just because the previous deletion discussion was disappointing doesn't mean this one has to be too!
    Let's discuss the above sources and why they don't establish the subject's notability. (Btw, non of the sources above cover his criminal record but rather his achievements as a streamer and his role as a chairman of Morocco in the Kings World Cup). Rap no Davinci (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Platinum Arts Sandbox (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG Clenpr (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Clenpr:, care to provide a rationale why the sources cited in the article do not meet WP:GNG? In particular, the Brazilian Symposium on Games and Digital Entertainment, PC Gaming Magazine, and PC Format Magazine sources? ~ A412 talk! 05:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you find said issues (Total PC Gaming Magazine, February 2009;
PC Format Magazine, issue 232, November 2009)? IgelRM (talk) 18:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article has more footnotes demonstrating notability than actual content, so it doesn't mandate a deletion yet would barely count as a weak keep. MimirIsSmart (talk) 04:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Comment This is currently a case of WP:OFFLINE where the article's supporting information isn't accessible enough to make a call, but on the available citations, it's not very impressive. The Symposium paper is the only secondary significant coverage I can see - the others are primary sources. Again, only on the merit of available sourcing, which would likely change would lean delete absent a search for other sourcing. VRXCES (talk) 12:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Allin Kempthorne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I've AFD'd this, but actually I think it should be redirected to Wriggler (video game). There doesn't appear to be any independent, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the subject of this article. Sourcing is all tabloid news (The Mirror, The Sun, Metro) or passing mentions. Simply appearing on BGT (and not being recognised...) does not indicate notability. Simply being a bit-part actor in numerous films does not indicate notability. Additionally I have WP:PROMO/WP:COI concerns here.

They wrote the ZX Spectrum game Wriggler together with their twin when they were at school, and this game is clearly notable, but nothing else they have done appears to be notable.

Also nominating The Vampires of Bloody Island for deletion (no need to redirect this), which is the film Allin Kempthorne created. The only coverage that could be found for this is blatantly promotional ("we were forced to bring forward the release of this film because of an email campaign that no-one but us is the source for existing") and from sources of dubious reliability. Simply being nominated for a Twitter Shorty Award does not indicate notability.

Similarly also Learning Hebrew for the same reasons.FOARP (talk) 07:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Because there are three articles under review, I think this needs more eyes.
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