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Deja Vu (group)

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Wikipedia article seems to be cobbled together from social media sources and brief mentions in news articles about The Voice UK series 12. I can't find any independent news sources specifically about the group, apart from the hungermag.com article already cited. Neither do they seem to have had any notable success outside of their appearance on The Voice. I'd say "delete" for now. Sionk (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Whilst they are not the main subject of the Digital Spy article, I'd say that that counts towards SIGCOV in addition to this source ([1]) and the Hunger mag, as it shows that they are notable. If it not kept I would recommend merging and redirecting to The Voice UK series 12 to preserve the history and allow the page to be recreated in the future. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They are very brief mentions in relation to their appearance in The Voice UK series 12. Though I'd have nothing against them getting an 'honourable mention' in the The Voice UK series 12 article, considering they were the first group to perform in The Voice (and the first act to appear in that year's series). Sionk (talk) 22:54, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - As DaniloDaysOfOurLives, I'd argue there's SIGCOV of the group, especially with that Hunger interview. XxLuckyCxX (talk) 18:34, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Santy Sharma

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Reason Novaclia (talk) 13:43, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I would like to bring to your attention a potential case of undisclosed paid editing on the Wikipedia article Santy Sharma.

While reviewing the page, I came across the following points

Santy Sharma is listed as the founder of Digital Yoog Media, a digital PR firm. This is evident from:

Their company website https://digital-yoog.com/

The footer of his official site: https://www.santysharma.com/ clearly states

"Website Powered & Presented by: DIGITALYOOG MEDIA

Services offered

The Digital Yoog Media website explicitly lists Wikipedia page creation and promotion as part of their services, indicating potential COI (Conflict of Interest) or paid editing activity.

Based on these observations, I believe this may warrant the use of the template:

I am flagging this in good faith, as I suspect the article may have been created or edited as part of a paid or promotional campaign without proper disclosure, potentially violating Wikipedia's guidelines on undisclosed paid contributions.

Also stated in https://www.oneindia.com/india/santy-sharma-is-all-set-to-moving-up-with-his-upcoming-track-choco-moco-3314246.html the same reference used for Santy Sharma wikipedia. Novaclia (talk) 13:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He got an award " Proud Indian Award" which is owned and managed by his own PR Company
https://proudindianaward.com/ Footer States Copyright © 2025 | Presented by DigitalYoog Media

Delete – Almost all references appear to be press releases, PR-driven features, or low-quality syndicated content (e.g., OneIndia). There are strong indicators of undisclosed paid editing and conflict of interest (COI):

The subject is the founder of Digital Yoog Media, a marketing/PR firm that openly advertises Wikipedia page creation and promotion, violating WP:UPE and WP:COI if not properly disclosed.

The "Proud Indian Award" listed as an achievement is managed and awarded by his own PR company (per https://proudindianaward.com, which is operated by Digital Yoog Media), raising concerns of self-awarding and promotional inflation.

The article reads more like advertising than a neutral biography, which conflicts with WP:NOTPROMO and WP:G11.

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Delete Run-of-the-mill press releases, no real WP:RS coverage that I can see. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:22, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Possible COI issues with this article as well as the above comments. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 08:38, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Baby Jean

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This article was previously declined at Articles for Creation and later moved to mainspace by a Single purpose account. The coverage is minor mostly consisting of brief mentions, interviews, or music announcements. While a Rolling Stone India feature exists, it is largely promotional and insufficient by itself to establish notability under WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. Thilsebatti (talk) 05:19, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A single minor role in a debut film is insufficient to establish notability. The remaining sources are announcements of music video launches.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 10:21, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:NMUSICIAN 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 11:33, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Tawag ng Tanghalan finalists (season 3)

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This was submitted to PROD but was deprodded. No chance of this cruft being merged into somewhere. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tawag ng Tanghalan season 1. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Every single source is a WP:PRIMARY WP:YOUTUBE violation to the ABS-CBN channel and at this point if someone wants to create a WP:NEWSORGINDIA equivalent for Filipino television shows, I would support it wholeheartedly. Nathannah • 📮 20:40, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd think it would be common sense that ABS-CBN, GMA and TV5 sources cannot be used as references for creations of ABS-CBN, GMA and TV5, respectively. We can be creative on what "creations" mean (Bini (group) and It's Showtime are creations of ABS-CBN, but NCAA Season 100 isn't a creation of GMA, but anything relating to its TV production is). Howard the Duck (talk) 22:08, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Entirety of sourcing is primary, non-independent, or self published. No indication that this subject is notable as a collection. Fits squarely into WP:LISTCRUFT. nf utvol (talk) 23:59, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Another WP:LISTCRUFT for this competition. What's worse is that it's entirely sourced from its episodes on YouTube. AstrooKai (Talk) 09:41, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haunt (black metal)

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Contains a number of references, however none of these extend beyond routine music listings. No other indication of notability per WP:BAND. SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 01:05, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Can't find any coverage beyond a few reviews in unreliable music blogs. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:29, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This is tough because of a different band called The Haunt. As for this black metal act, the folks above are correct. It's a hobby act that probably has never played live and therefore would have no independent news coverage, and the albums have only been noticed by a few blogs. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:29, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alive in Standby

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Doesn't meet notability. Refs are one review and music videos. Nswix (talk) 07:52, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep: putting music videos in reference tags has an unfortunate negative halo effect here. if you're willing to put those aside then: the reference is one single review, which isn't so bad. Here's two more: CoD Courier, RockFreaks.net - that makes THREE. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 08:09, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

K'Millian

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Leo Moyo (K'Millian) is a Zambian R&B artist born on August 13, 1979. His most popular hits are ulebukisha" do you remember?"Kakabalika" ('The Sun Will Shine Again) - a song which tells the story of a pregnant woman who is abandoned, "Pa Ulendo" - a song praising a woman for her prayers and thoughts as he makes a journey to see her, "Nizakukonda", "Another Day" and "Uleibukisha". His album "Another Day" spent over 21 weeks as no. 1 in the Zambian charts, whilst "Kakabalika" spent more than 14 weeks at no. 1 on the Radio Phoenix Local Rhythmz Countdown.

The write up above looks like a G3, also see WP:NOT, but let’s look at this, the article lack neutrality, fails verification, there is no independent significant coverage cited on the article, fails WP:GNG fails WP:MUSICBIO, maybe if sources are added and article is re-written in a NPOV, I can reconsider, but for now let’s take a close look together. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 13:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nomination. GeographicAccountant (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom ZedKuChalo (talk) 06:59, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Itō

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The article fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:ANYBIO. While the subject is described as an assistant professor and writer, no publications are cited to support notability. The article also mentions that the subject is a composer, but it is unclear whether this refers to musical composition or writing. The subject does not meet the criteria under WP:NPROF either. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 13:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I haven't looked closely at its sourcing, but just noting that the jawiki article is much longer and better sourced: ja:伊東乾 (作曲家). The subject is apparently now a full professor, has written a number of books, and has won awards for both his writing and his musical compositions. MCE89 (talk) 13:19, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Find reliable source, add content, and improve the article, Do you think this subject has significant coverage? I’ll be willing

to withdraw if there is substantial improvement to the article. Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 14:10, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - As a BLP, this must be sourced or must be deleted. There is no other. Bearian (talk) 09:38, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. The sourcing issue can be fixed. Available sources include a current faculty profile [2] and cv [3]. And U. Tokyo is very selective, but we cannot keep based only on having a professor title there. The Japanese article lists many compositions due to him but we would need independent coverage such as reviews for notability that way. The language barrier may be an issue in finding them, if they exist. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:27, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The subject does not meet the notability criteria according to WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. It lacks independent, reliable sources and does not provide evidence of significant contributions to his field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodboyjj (talk • contribs) 11:33, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rohit Iyengar

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The page is mostly based on a WP:1EVENT, plus mini coverage of his Rahul Gandhi remix. Is it a weak keep or a weak delete? —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 06:13, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:GNG, gained notability from WP:1EVENT which is not notable. This person has no notability other than the minor coverage received years ago. jolielover♥talk 08:23, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: The subject is the reason why I was forced to spend four hours at the Dubai Mall. Bearian (talk) 10:19, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tanveer Evan

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Tagged for notability by Bonadea in September 2024. By winning a Meril-Prothom Alo Award, meets WP:MUSICBIO criterion #8, so may be notable. But there is a shortage of independent, reliable sources containing significant coverage. There's a trio of pieces from Prothom Alo, but multiple pieces in the same periodical are normally counted as one source per WP:GNG. There are two short paragraphs in banglanews24.com.[4] And there is some very thin coverage in Anandabazar Patrika.[5]

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Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bengali/movies/news/yash-madhumita-to-work-together-again/articleshow/84947102.cms			One sentence	✘ No
https://bengali.indianexpress.com/entertainment/yash-dasgupta-madhumita-sarkar-reunites-in-svfs-music-video/	Press release: no byline, "according to the production company"		One sentence	✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/music/hindi/watch-new-hindi-trending-song-music-video-main-royaan-sung-by-tanveer-evan-and-yasser-desai/videoshow/90821440.cms	Primary source music videno			✘ No
https://svf.in/news/yash-madhumita-to-work-together-again/	Label that has published his work			✘ No
https://bangla.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/yash-dasgupta-and-madhumita-sarcar-to-work-together-after-5-years-for-bangladeshi-singer-tanveer-evan-s-music-video-o-mon-re-31627888092852.html			Two sentences	✘ No
https://www.ntvbd.com/entertainment/%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%B6-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A7%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87-%E0%A7%AB-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%9B%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%95-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%9B%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%95-940165			One sentence	✘ No
https://www.jugantor.com/entertainment/451804/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BF-%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%97%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A7-%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%96%E0%A6%BF	Lightly edited reprint of Anandabazar Patrika article, not intellectually independent of it			✘ No
https://www.prothomalo.com/entertainment/%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A5%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%93%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%8F%E0%A6%87-%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8				✔ Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JnIryBAag	Prothom Alo Entertainment, sponsor of award he won			✘ No
https://www.thedailystar.net/entertainment/news/meril-prothom-alo-awards-ceremony-held-after-two-years-3033271			One sentence	✘ No
https://en.prothomalo.com/entertainment/music/ufaaja40ge				✔ Yes
https://www.prothomalo.com/entertainment/entertainment-interview/mc5unnzvtt	Interview			✘ No
https://www.protidinersangbad.com/entertainment/416018	Press conference		One sentence	✘ No
https://www.banglanews24.com/index.php/entertainment/news/bd/1188727.details			~ Two short paragraphs	~ Partial
https://www.jagonews24.com/entertainment/news/411216			One sentence	✘ No
https://www.thedailystar.net/entertainment/music/news/10-most-viewed-songs-youtube-throughout-the-year-2929521			One sentence	✘ No
https://www.prothomalo.com/entertainment/entertainment-interview/এটা-আমার-কাছে-অবাক-করার-মতো-ঘটনা-তানভীর-ইভান	Interview			✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/music/hindi/enjoy-the-new-hindi-music-video-for-judaiyaan-by-tanveer-evan/videoshow/103505111.cms	Primary source music video			✘ No
https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/tv/judaiyaan-ft-abhishek-malhan-and-jiya-shankar-out-now-abhiya-fans-call-it-the-perfect-music-video-article-103497625			One sentence	✘ No
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC6tpyBt63bIKnnwfN78T0Pw		WP:RS/PS	Two social media statistics	✘ No
https://en.prothomalo.com/entertainment/who-wins-what-at-meril-prothom-alo-awards	Covering award they sponsor			✘ No
https://www.prothomalo.com/entertainment/song/wzuza6bvc0				✔ Yes
https://www.anandabazar.com/entertainment/madhumita-sarcar-shares-the-experience-of-working-with-yash-dasgupta-dgtl/cid/1297310			~ Extremely thin coverage, but deeper than other passing mentions - you decide	? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Searches of the usual Google types in English and Bengali found nothing better. I'm inclined towards WP:TOOSOON because there aren't really multiple independent sources containing genuinely significant coverage, but am open to persuasion. The notability tag should not become a permanent badge of shame, so input one way or the other from the community is welcome. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:19, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Glider (band)

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Non-notable. Seems to have failed my WP:BEFORE. Although the members may be notable I can't see evidence that the band iteself is sk satsuma 01:58, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment —It seems the original page author also had an undeclared WP:COI as they managed the band in question (not sure if declaring COI was in practice here 18 years ago). The page was then deleted in 2011 due to lack of notability, and re-created by the same author. sk satsuma 02:00, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non notable band ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Alan Schmitz

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Longstanding tags on this article and curious editing history does not appear to fulfill WP:NPROF. A WP:BEFORE fails to find WP:SIGCOV to achieve WP:ANYBIO on this BLP. Nayyn (talk) 00:12, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Neutral. Obviously does not pass WP:Prof (nor need it) but might pass GNG. BLP is full of bloat like a LinkedIn entry. Xxanthippe (talk).
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Delete Ref. 1 might be good, but the rest are just databases. I don't see any other sources not connected to Schmitz himself or his employer. WP:GNG is irrelevant in this case, we are bound by WP:BLP and WP:NPROF, which are not met. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:21, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NBIO. I couldn't find any independent WP:SIGCOV; as WeirdNAnnoyed said above, apart from [1] the others are just promo. If additional sources are found please ping. GoldRomean (talk) 20:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Tajdari

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Most of the info here is completely unverifiable or very dubious, e.g. the film awards, or his "championship titles" in MMA. At best he lacks notability as established by reliable sources. Fram (talk) 15:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – The subject of this article, Ali Tajdari, clearly meets Wikipedia's notability criteria under several guidelines:

He is a multi-time national champion in Vovinam and has represented Iran in international competitions. This satisfies WP:NATHLETE.
He has a documented professional MMA career, verified by third-party databases. This also satisfies WP:NATHLETE and confirms independent verifiability.
He has released multiple music albums, performed concerts, and has coverage in reliable media, satisfying WP:NARTIST.
He has acted in national television productions with non-trivial, recurring roles – fulfilling WP:NACTOR.
The subject’s multi-disciplinary recognition has received coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources, meeting WP:GNG.

It is important to note that this article has existed on Wikipedia for over three years and has been subject to continuous improvement and scrutiny. Notably, two of Wikipedia's most experienced and respected administrators have contributed significantly to refining this article. The fact that these senior editors have worked on it strongly suggests that the subject's notability and the article’s reliability have been thoroughly evaluated.

Given this context, the sudden nomination for deletion appears premature and lacks sufficient justification. Wikipedia's deletion policy emphasizes improvement over removal, especially for articles that have been maintained and expanded over several years.

The appropriate course here should be article improvement, not deletion. Per Wikipedia’s core values, deletion should only occur when an article is irremediably non-notable or unverifiable, which is not the case here. More sourcing and clarification can continue collaboratively.

Strongly oppose deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jijijef (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (Notified by Jijijef) - I am not convinced that GNG has been satisfied or any notability criteria. Fram pretty much summed up the issue. I don't see where enough improvement can take place for this to meet the notability guidelines due to a lack of verifiable information and a lack of reliable sources. The fact that five separate users declined this at Articles for Creation over a 35 day period on notability grounds is telling. --Super Goku V (talk) 19:34, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As noted, subject fails WP:GNG. That the article has made it this long without being nominated is not a reason to keep it. —C.Fred (talk) 21:07, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lu Hpring

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I suspect the article was created with a conflict of interest (COI) by creator, and it has zero coverage—not even in PR news. This local editor seems 100% confident in all his creations, likely because his previous articles were rarely reviewed by Burmese editors, as Burmese editors are relatively rare on Wikipedia. As a result, he seems to believe everything he creates on Wikipedia is acceptable. However, it's time to correct his misunderstanding of Wikipedia's notability criteria.

I have already moved this article to Draft space twice. The first version was created by User:Hintha. Now it has reappeared in mainspace without any improvement in references. It fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, and WP:NSINGER. All the links cited in the article are either music streaming platforms, YouTube videos, or unreliable sources that are impossible to use for establishing notability.

As a Burmese myself, I admit she is a notable new face singer and I'm one of her fans. But rules are rules—and at this moment, she does not meet the notability standards due to the lack of reliable coverage. If she had even three good sources, I'd be the first to create her article properly, ahead of any other editor.

I don't want to nominate this article for deletion (AfD), but the creator has refused to accept advice—see User talk:SoeThiha5#Warning!. Hteiktinhein (talk) 19:44, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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တစ်ဖက်မပိတ်နဲ့ မင်း‌ေးထားတဲ့ဟာdeleteလုပ်ခံရတုန်းကဘယ်လိုခံစားရလဲ မသိရင်သူကအကုန်မှန်သလိုနဲ့Lol SoeThiha5 (talk) 05:03, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ငါရေးထားတာတတ်နိုင်သမျှ source ‌ေတွ အကုန်ရှာပြီး ‌ေရးထားတာ အစွမ်းကုန်ကြိုးစားပြီး ‌ေရးထားတာပဲ ဘာမှ ‌ေပါ့ပျက်မနေဘူး ‌‌ေသချာစဉ်းစား ဦး‌ေနှာက်ရှိရင်‌ @Hteiktinhein SoeThiha5 (talk) 05:08, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please be professional when participating in Articles for Deletion (AfD) discussions. This is not a casual talk page, and nominating an article for deletion is a normal part of Wikipedia’s editorial process. You cannot blame me for following Wikipedia policy by bringing your article to AfD. If you continue to behave disruptively, I will consider opening a case at WP:ANI (Administrators' Noticeboard for Incidents) to prevent further issues.

If you believe your article meets Wikipedia's notability criteria, you are more than welcome to defend it here with reliable sources and factual evidence. Actions speak louder than words.

BTW, you said above, "If someone doesn't know better, it seems like you're always right. Lol." Well, for the record, none of the articles I've created have ever been deleted. I only create topics that meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, and I earned mamy user rights through consistent, policy-based contributions.

If you believe any of my articles fail to meet the standards, you are free to nominate them for AfD. However, please be aware that I will not tolerate any form of retaliation or harassment simply because I nominated your article for deletion. I have no power to change the outcome of the AfD—only other editors do. Please, let the community decide whether this subject meets the general notability guidelines or not. Hteiktinhein (talk) 05:33, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

သေချာလည်းပြန်ကြည့်ပါဦးဟ ကိုယ် createခဲ့တဲ့ဟာ‌ေတွကို ဘာမှဘူးခံငြင်းမ‌ေနနဲ့ SoeThiha5 (talk) 05:49, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are one step away from having your account blocked for engaging in a pattern of revenge editing against me. Now, you're actively looking for mistakes just to blame me. Please stay calm—I don’t want to escalate this to ANI, but if you continue targeting me, I’ll have no choice.

You've now started attacking me on my talk page, falsely claiming that a deleted draft created by another editor was mine, and mocking my edits. Please stop this uncivil behavior immediately. Hteiktinhein (talk) 05:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

နောက်တစ်ခု‌ေပြာချင်တာက မြန်မာပြည်မှာreliable sourceရဖို့ဆိုတာတအားခက်တယ် တချို့ article‌ေတွကျအဆင်‌ေပြသလိုရှာ ပြီးဖွင့် article‌ေတွအကုန်လံုး reliable sourceရဖို့က‌ေတာ့ဘယ်လိုမှဖြစ်နိုင်မှာမဟုတ်ဘူး notableဖြစ်ပြီး sourceရှာရခက်တာက မြန်မာပြည်ဖြစ်နေလို့ပဲ @Hteiktinhein SoeThiha5 (talk) 05:56, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that media sources have become very limited following the 2021 coup, and many outlets have been shut down. That’s why, when I review draft articles related to Myanmar topics, I’m not overly strict—I try to preserve as many of these drafts as I can.

I understand the use of third-party sources like Lotaya or Cele Gabar for articles about TV series or movies. However, for articles about living persons (Biographies of Living Persons), the standards are much more serious, and it's much harder to save such articles without strong references.

Thank you. Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:29, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There are so many bands that I would love to add to Wikipedia from Myanmar as a Burmese myself, but there just aren't enough sources outside Facebook and direct interviews, especially since the coup. So I empathise with the author, but none of these sources cover Lu Hpring in detail independently. the independent coverage from Korean media is just passing mentions. I do want to however note that WP:NMUSIC gives these as part of its criteria that I'm not sure how it can apply to Myanmar.

Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country

This might be the best case for notability if there is an established consensus on Mynamar's national music charts. However, I think trying to find this information being independently reported (without interviews, direct links to spotify/youtube, etc.) *and* without using social media is going to be hard. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:08, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hanging Doll

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Does not meet WP:NBAND. Has had a notability issue template on the article since 2010. Only inline reference is from Facebook, and external links are just 404'd primary sources. Closest I could find to a secondary source was a blog called "the rocktologist", which unfortunately looks neither reliable nor independent. BugGhost 🦗👻 18:22, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete: I found this Sunday Mercury source, but have doubts we can save the article. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 17:07, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeannine Haffner

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Filing on behalf of, and also because I concur with IP 2406 who brought this to my attention following some cleanup I'd done on it in the past. Haffner does not appear to have attained any notability nor did the song. The article is likely a copyvio but reverting 17 years of edits seemed counter productive when I have not identified sourcing on which to improve the article. I do not think a redirect to Barack Obama 2008 presidential primary campaign or 2008 North Carolina Democratic presidential primary would be helpful to the reader so not viable ATDs Star Mississippi 02:19, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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(Thanks, Star!) I initially did a bit of cleanup on the article but it soon became apparent that it doesn't pass notability.

The only source cited on the page is in Wednesday Journal, a small local paper from where Haffner lived; being in interview format I would treat it mainly as a primary source. A search by name does turn up one other potential source, a 2024 piece (verify same person by comparing photo to Haffner's youtube and apple music/spotify artist pages) – aside from lacking relevant content, it is a low-quality regurgitated ~~interview~~questionnaire published by Voyage Magazine (no editorial oversight + other issues, see RS/N discussion, external writeup) and cannot be counted as a reliable secondary source. Subject fails GNG, as for the subject-specific guideline WP:NMUSIC, WJ source indicates that Haffner had only performed in local venues like cafes and bars; there is no evidence of advancing beyond that. Voyage mentions membership in a more recent band that received air time on two radio stations, but this claim is not verifiable, nor does it meet the criteria of "placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network".

Additional note: not counting cleanup edits, the sole contributor is a SPA, and I have turned up non-behavioral evidence that suggests WP:COI editing.

Concur that there is no value in redirecting to other pages related to Obama's 2008 campaign: not already mentioned therein and not notable enough to warrant a cleanup+merge.

Delete — 2406:3003:2007:1F3:B4FC:62FA:6BF7:F6CD (talk) 06:50, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It appears that Haffner or someone else of the same name has a 2006 album ([6]) which was suspiciously unmentioned in the article in her hometown newspaper two years later when she got some softball coverage for her YouTube song. There is nothing special about writing a song inspired by current events, and I can find no evidence that "Yes We Can" had any influence among Obama voters, while having a video shared by random people among various social media platforms is not proof of notability. This article was clearly an attempt to add Wikipedia to that effort in 2008 and it has been sitting here ever since. The problem is, Haffner is a non-notable local musician with no reliable media coverage. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:17, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Coverage is limited to a 2008 local interview and a low-quality 2024 questionnaire, with no significant independent reliable secondary sources. The subject consequently fails WP:GNG and the criteria of WP:NMUSIC. Aeon Sentinel (talk) 23:24, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Vasquez

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it is not demonstrated that Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles is met. Imho this is a form of advertising and the article has been speedydeleted in several other language Wikipedias for example in de.wp) (also after a regular DR), pt.wp, es.wp (here also creation blocked after several deletions) and nl.wp. I would like to point out that en.wp has had a problem with this article in the past, see for example Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ryanvasquez19993/Archive. It probably would not be surprising if the users who are currently pushing this article (User:Traduworld and User:Infousaoficial) are follow-up accounts of Ryanvasquez19993 Isderion (talk) 23:40, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I can see one of the references describes him as "the first Venezuelan on the Municipal Council for Cultural Policies in Humaitá, Amazonas", but I'm far from being convinced the article meets WP:MUSICBIO, and the cross-wiki LTA certainly doesn't help with that. --NoonIcarus (talk) 12:24, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can clarify this for you with this information: WP:NMUSICOTHER "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture" - This information is covered on Brazilian government websites, through the Ministry of Culture. 2804:3DF8:500C:900:F10C:C189:6319:A4E6 (talk) 22:57, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is not in the article. Or do you mean the part where the municipal government of Humaitá (a municipality of around 50k people, so not that big) made him one of many advisors. This would not be sufficient. --Isderion (talk) 23:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The High Society

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Tagged as possibly non-notable for five years. Band shares various members of other notable bands, but those musicians are not independently notable (WP:BAND #6). WP:BAND#1 not met; coverage is trivial at best (or is otherwise incidental mention in relation to King Adora) MIDI (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator's comment: To address the "keep" !votes of the previous AFD (back in 2007): (1) Having 2 former members of a notable band does not meet (or no longer meets) WP:BAND#6 – the musicians themselves should be independently notable (rather than inheriting the notability of the other band), (2) Neither "I've heard of them", "they're influential", nor "they gigged in London" are a threshold for keeping. (3) At the time of the previous AFD, "criterion 5" was "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable". That is no longer the case. MIDI (talk) 11:39, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to King Adora#Post-breakup (2005–present). This appears to be a valid WP:ATD. ResonantDis_tortion 19:16, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jade Louise

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Can not find any RS that establishes notability other than as a cast member on The GC.[7][8][9]

Her only song to have (briefly) charted was the theme song for the GC. Says she was a finalist on X-Factor, but she's even not mentioned in the wikilinked article.

Would say WP:REALITYBIO applies here. At the very least, this should be merged with The GC as that's what RS shows is notable, not her as a singer. Nil🥝^Talk 00:20, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, or Merge as suggested above. I come up with nothing, but I have no access to New Zealand sourcing, if any exists. — Maile (talk) 00:36, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Some coverage of a Welsh actress with a similar name [10], but nothing for this person. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Top ten single in NZ is good for N:MUSIC. Even it is best covered in The GC article that does not require deletion. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This time i am agree with nominator. Ms Zade don't have any in-depth coverage to meet Wikipedia's WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Raj Shri21 (talk) 09:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who is Ms Zade? This !vote appears to be about a different subject. ResonantDis_tortion 14:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps they meant "Jade" and made a typo. Gommeh 🎮 17:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gommeh:, Thank you. You are correct, This was a typo. I meant "Jade Louise". Raj Shri21 (talk) 10:54, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Keep - clear pass on WP:MUSICBIO with a top 10 hit. Furthermore the NZ Herald has coverage including [11], [12], [13] and there's also some bio and coverage of her music at MusicNZ. Note sources appear to be inconsistent with her surname; the Otago Daily Times calls her Harawira Dewes; while the NZ Herald calls her Dewson-Hawera. I've gone with the latter and updated the article. ResonantDis_tortion 15:04, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I do not have access to most of these sources (and it looks like one of them even returns a 404 error). However the subject having made the top 10 in New Zealand is a widely-recognized honor, as such the subject is notable under WP:ANYBIO as well as criterion 2 of WP:MUSICBIO. Gommeh 🎮 17:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete reaching the top 10 in New Zealand is a widely recognsied honour, really? According to who? There is a distinct lack of secondary sources here. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:31, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She reached #7 on Recorded Music New Zealand, which is New Zealand's national record chart. That means she's notable under criteria 2 of WP:MUSICBIO which states that an artist is notable if they have "had a single or album on any country's national music chart." I'd say that's widely enough. Gommeh 🎮 17:59, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What a stupid SNG, reaching the top 10 of any country would include micronations and who defines what 'national music charts' count for this purpose? Traumnovelle (talk) 07:09, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 12:00, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the reliable sources identified by ResidentDistortion in this discussion and charting in New Zealand meets criteria 2 of WP:NMUSIC so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:32, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I don't agree that WP:REALITYBIO applies here, because that is mostly aimed at musicians that were on a show like The X Factor or Idol and that's it. I'm barely convinced WP:NMUSIC has been met here because they had a charting single, and were on X Factor and The GC which were both covered in mainstream media to some extent. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 01:06, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Would editors arguing for Deletion consider whether or not the article subject meets a different standard of notability?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:55, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chang Ho-chirl

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Declined A7 speedy deletion (since it's not a recently created article, apparently). South Korean singer who is not significantly covered in any reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ApexParagon (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - this is not a keep/delete recommendation from me, but just to note that I found these three sources with a decent amount of coverage in Chinese: udn.com, sohu.com, zaobao.com.sg which suggests to me that the subject may be notable. I'll take a better look a bit later. Not sure about the reliability of Sohu as a source. But on the face of it United Daily News and Lianhe Zaobao look OK. It's a bit of a pity that the zhwiki article, which is lengthier, is similarly ill-sourced. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sohu is a aggregator of both reliable news sources and WP:SPS blogs; in this case its a SPS blog so not usable. The other two look OK though. Jumpytoo Talk 06:37, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Yuan, Shipei 袁世珮; Guo, Zhaofang 郭肇舫 (2005-12-09). "情歌揪人心鍋鏟擄人胃張鎬哲100分煮夫" [Love Songs Tug at the Heart, Spatula Captures the Stomach. Chang Ho-chirl, the Perfect Husband in the Kitchen]. Star News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 4.
  The article notes: "別看張鎬哲一口標準國語，他可是道地的韓國人，離開家鄉24年，味蕾倒沒忘記小時候的味道。今天，他40分鐘內變出4道家常菜，10分鐘內就被大家掃光光。這很會唱情歌揪人心的成熟男人，也是很會料理擄人胃的好男人。"
  From Google Translate: "Although Zhang Haozhe speaks standard Mandarin, he is a native Korean. After leaving his hometown for 24 years, his taste buds have not forgotten the taste of his childhood. Today, he made 4 home-cooked dishes in 40 minutes, and they were swept away by everyone in 10 minutes. This mature man who is good at singing love songs is also a good man who is good at cooking."
2. Yuan, Shipei 袁世珮 (2005-09-25). "張鎬哲女兒韓語一句不通正港的大韓男人　來台20多年常被誤認為華僑不強求女兒哈韓" [Chang Ho-chirl's Daughter Doesn’t Speak a Word of Korean. A True South Korean Man in Taiwan for Over 20 Years, Often Mistaken for an Overseas Chinese. He Doesn't Push His Daughter to Be into Korean Culture]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. D4.
  The article notes: "在台灣的「韓流」熱潮上，正港韓國男人張鎬哲不僅唱著字正腔圓的國語情歌，甚至也不強求女兒跟著學習大韓文化。 ... 來台20多年的張鎬哲，常讓人誤以為是韓國華僑，不知道他可是血統純正的大韓男人，不過他小時候在南韓念華僑學校，老師都是山東人，造就他帶點山東腔的國語，當完兵後，來台讀書，一路讀到政治大學研究所畢業，還拿南韓護照的張鎬哲說：... 在他家，太太生前和他丈母娘說的是溫州話，13歲的女兒替老爸翻譯。女兒聽得懂、不會說溫州話，對韓語卻不會聽也不會說、甚至也不好奇。"
  From Google Translate: "In the "Korean Wave" craze in Taiwan, the authentic Korean man Zhang Haozhe not only sings Mandarin love songs with fluent pronunciation, but also doesn't force his daughter to learn Korean culture. ... Zhang Haozhe, who has been in Taiwan for more than 20 years, is often mistaken for an overseas Chinese in Korea. People don't know that he is a pure-blooded Korean man. However, when he was a child, he went to a Chinese school in South Korea. His teachers were all from Shandong, which made him speak Mandarin with a Shandong accent. After serving in the military, he came to Taiwan to study and graduated from the National Chengchi University. Zhang Haozhe, who also holds a South Korean passport, said ... In his home, his wife spoke Wenzhou dialect with his mother-in-law before she died, and his 13-year-old daughter translated for her father. His daughter can understand but cannot speak Wenzhou dialect, but she can't listen to or speak Korean, and she is not even curious about it."
3. Li, Yuxun 李雨勳 (2005-07-13). "韓流第一人張鎬哲復出成了張韶涵師弟女兒逼他要簽名" [K-Pop Pioneer Chang Ho-chirl Makes a Comeback. Now Angela Chang's Labelmate. Even His Daughter Asked for His Autograph]. Star News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 9.
  The article notes: "「正宗韓流第一人」張鎬哲時隔6年再出輯，最高興的不是他自己而是13歲的寶貝女兒。自從知道老爸加盟福茂唱片，成了偶像張韶涵的師弟，女兒可是天天纏著張鎬哲要張韶涵的簽名呢！早在18年前「韓流」就已登陸台灣，張鎬哲在1988年出版首張國語專輯，以北國男兒渾厚低沉的歌聲，建立起熟男情歌的地位，幾年下來唱紅不少歌，而當了「台灣女婿」後，漸漸讓人忘了他是道地的高麗大漢。"
  From Google Translate: ""The first authentic Korean Wave artist" Zhang Haozhe released an album after 6 years, and the happiest person is not himself but his 13-year-old baby daughter. Since knowing that her father joined Fumao Records and became the junior of idol Zhang Shaohan, his daughter has been pestering Zhang Haozhe for Zhang Shaohan's autograph every day! As early as 18 years ago, "Korean Wave" landed in Taiwan. Zhang Haozhe published his first Mandarin album in 1988. With the deep and deep voice of a northern man, he established his status as a mature man's love song. Over the years, he sang many popular songs. After becoming a "Taiwanese son-in-law", people gradually forgot that he was a genuine Korean man."
4. Pan, Weiling 潘瑋翎 (2000-05-06). "張鎬哲沒戲唱第一次扮英雄一出場就心臟病發第二次穿彩衣第一集就遇刺身亡" [No Songs to Sing for Chang Ho-chirl. First Time Playing a Hero, He Dies of a Heart Attack Right Away. Second Time in Costume Drama, Assassinated in Episode One]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 20.
  The article notes: "韓國歌手張鎬哲截至目前為止演過兩次戲，一部是吳宗憲執導的電影「英雄向後轉」，另一齣則是昨天在深坑拍攝的「珍珠彩衣」序場；張鎬哲笑說，「從影以來」他全是客串演出，不但沒當過主角，甚至兩部戲的下場都如出一轍，一出場就翹辮子，讓喜歡嘗試戲劇演出的他不禁向製作人阮虔芷請命：「別讓我被人家笑稱『張一集』！」"
  From Google Translate: "Korean singer Zhang Haozhe has acted in two dramas so far, one is Wu Zongxian's movie "Heroes Turn Back", and the other is the prologue of "Pearl Colored Clothes" filmed in Shenkeng yesterday; Zhang Haozhe laughed and said that "since he started acting", he has only been a guest actor. Not only has he never been the protagonist, but the endings of the two dramas are exactly the same. He died as soon as he appeared. As he likes to try drama performances, he couldn't help but ask producer Ruan Qianzhi: "Don't let me be laughed at as "Zhang Yiji"!""
5. "張鎬哲處女作酬勞創紀錄" [Chang Ho-chirl's Debut Sets Record for Highest Pay]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1988-07-31. p. 9.
  The article notes: "韓僑鬍子歌星張鎬哲在籌備第二張唱片專輯的時候，傳出他在錄第一張「再回到從前」時，就因為被「看好」，而有一個非常驚人的酬勞數字。大凡新人灌唱片的酬勞都很微薄，如果公司願在超過某一個銷售數字後再付版稅，已難能可貴。可是張鎬哲在餐廳演唱而受幾家唱片公司垂青後，彼此以「比價」方式爭取他。結果張鎬哲第一張唱片的錄唱費是三十萬，成為圈內「奇譚」。"
  From Google Translate: "When the Korean overseas bearded singer Zhang Haozhe was preparing for his second album, it was reported that he had received a very surprising remuneration when recording his first album "Back to the Past" because he was "favored". Generally speaking, the remuneration for new artists is very meager, and if the company is willing to pay royalties after exceeding a certain sales figure, it is already precious. However, after Zhang Haozhe was favored by several record companies for singing in a restaurant, they "compared prices" to compete for him. As a result, Zhang Haozhe's first album recording fee was 300,000, which became a "strange story" in the circle."
6. "張鎬哲重作馮婦再回到從前當學生" [Chang Ho-chirl Starts Over, Returns to Being a Student Again]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1988-10-03. p. 16.
  The article notes: "以演唱電視主題曲「再回到從前」，而知名歌唱界的韓國籍民歌手張鎬哲，於日前考上台灣大學政治學系研究所，他將以半工半讀的方式攻讀碩士學位。道地韓國人的張鎬哲，四年前來台灣時的身分是文化大學中文系學生，唸書期間，為求經濟上的自主，他到民歌餐廳自彈自唱打工，因而有機會為唱片界發掘，出版了一張「再回到從前」專輯。"
  From Google Translate: "Jang Haozhe, a Korean folk singer who is well-known for singing the TV theme song "Back to the Past", was admitted to the Graduate School of Political Science at National Taiwan University. He will study for a master's degree on a part-time basis. Zhang Haozhe, a native Korean, came to Taiwan four years ago as a student of the Chinese Department of Culture University. During his studies, in order to seek financial independence, he worked in a folk song restaurant and sang and played the guitar. As a result, he was discovered by the record industry and published an album "Back to the Past"."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Chang Ho-chirl, also known as Zhang Haozhe (traditional Chinese: 張鎬哲; simplified Chinese: 张镐哲), to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Keep: In addition to the sources listed above, there are dozens of articles which all seem to be SIGCOV here. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 09:32, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Desembra

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Subject does not appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Notability not inherited from collaborating with notable artists. None of the sources in the article provide him with WP:SIGCOV, and I'm also uncertain if all are reliable anyways as some are self-published. I searched manually through Swedish newspapers (they are not usually indexed in Google) and found zero mentions. I also wasn't able to find any additional sources in g-news, newspapers.com, or PressReader. Zzz plant (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to Swedish House Mafia as an WP:ATD. Per this source and this source, which are reliable, I see no reason the subject can't be redirected and mentioned at the proposed target. ResonantDis_tortion 19:38, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as suggested. With two reliable sources, he is almost but not quite notable. Bearian (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The links above are pretty much just mentions - one confirms he is a Swedish producer who has worked with SMH, the other says "a young Swede on the scene whom Ingrosso discovered on SoundCloud. He helped the guys steer themselves toward common". This doesn't provide a lot to work with, even for a smerge. If we want to go the ATD route, targeting the album the subject worked on (Paradise Again) rather than SHM itself makes more sense to me given the context of the (quite thin) coverage. Zzz plant (talk) 23:43, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elvidin Krilić

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Semi-advertorialized ("he retains his love for the folk music of his people, appears with many traditional music stars, and actively helps young, talented musicians seeking to take their places in the music world") WP:BLP of a musician, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. As always, musicians are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass certain specific notability criteria verified by WP:GNG-worthy coverage about their careers in third party sources independent of themselves -- but this cites no proper references at all, isn't claiming anything about him that would be "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on the sourcing, and has been tagged for notability concerns since 2013 without seeing any discernible improvement since. And since his article on the Bosnian Wikipedia isn't any better sourced either, we also can't salvage this just by pulling over existing sources from there. Bearcat (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – I'm torn, as this feels like it should be a speedy delete because it is a BLP without any real sources, and thus should at least be page blanked as a soft deletion because unsourced information should be removed imminently per WP:BLPRS. The only thing close to an independent source is clearly a fan-site. However, that fan-site has a helpful page of news coverage that has been archived [14], that could be used to save the article if anyone speaks the language. – Ike Lek (talk) 05:57, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. After conducting a thorough BEFORE search, I am not able to find references to meet the general notability guidelines or to demonstrate significant coverage. Fade258 (talk) 14:45, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Well, I was amazed to find anything about this musician [15] -it won't work in Gtranslate so you have to copy text out and try other sites - seems to be an interview. There's a total of two links in Gnews, so we still don't have enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are you able to look into these? [16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25] Ike Lek (talk) 17:47, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The last source is likely an ad for a folk music concert, and the two sources before that appear to be more ads about some new CDs he released, so they don't count towards notability per WP:NMUSIC. Can't say anything about the other sources yet, though. AluminiumWithAnI (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly Vendetta

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Non-notable band. Coverage from reliable sources is insufficient for establishing notability. Fails WP:NBAND. Also possible WP:COI or WP:PE. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not understanding how this artist fails notability. The band meets at least two of the WP:NBAND criteria as outlined. They are the subjects of a feature documentary that has been distributed world-wide via Tubi and Amazon Prime. Additionally, their music has been featured in several independent films with global reach. Dndlive (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Further, a conflict of interest does not exist with this publication, as the artists in question are independent and representing themselves. They are not receiving payment and I am not receiving payment for proposing their inclusion on Wikipedia. Dndlive (talk) 21:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I humbly request that this article remain published due to artists meeting Wikipedia inclusion criteria, and that I be given the opportunity to revise the citations in order to avoid bare URLs and have a clear citation style. Any help is greatly appriciated. Dndlive (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The feature documentary appears to be directed by the band founder, so is a WP:Primary source. I am not seeing evidence, in the article and WP:BEFORE, of any secondary coverage showing how the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO, including coverage of the documentary itself. As it appears to be mentioned in the article - I was going to propose redirect to David Dillehunt per WP:ATD, but the sourcing for the content in that article is also poor so I just don't see how this can be anything other than Delete. Happy to modify my !vote if coverage turns up. User Dndlive - if you need any help or hints on wikipedia notability please let me know. ResonantDis_tortion 22:08, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ResonantDistortion: I went ahead and nominated that article for deletion as well. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Dillehunt. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I am unable to find any secondary independent sources, all current cited sources are either trivial or not independent. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:BAND. Nagol0929 (talk) 22:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I just revised the page to include WP:SECONDARY coverage that is independent of the band members themselves, and cleaned up all citations accordingly. The band was referenced in a 2015 stand-up routine by Lewis Black, they were featured in a 2018 publication by author and photographer, Rich Tarbell, and their music was featured in a 2024 dramedy by director Anna Ma. They meet WP:MUSICBIO and WP:BAND criteria for inclusion, albeit with less overall coverage. Dndlive (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I just spent a few hours of independent research trying to find evidence of notability but was unable to find qualifying RS SIGCOV to establish notability. Zach^H007 01:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Zach - thank you for your comment. I just revised the page to include WP:SECONDARY coverage that is independent of the band members themselves, and cleaned up all citations accordingly. Dndlive (talk) 17:45, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I also reviewed a few of the sources for WP:SIGCOV. Three made no mention of the band and one was about 15 seconds of coverage from an 8-minute standup set. Vegantics (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Murder Junkies

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Refs fail WP:SIRS so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Meets WP:MUSICBIO#1 per secondary reviews and bios in WP:RSMUSIC publications: [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]. ResonantDis_tortion 15:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - I'm not quite convinced that they have generated significant coverage beyond their connection to GG Allin, but the previous voter found some valid stuff in specialist punk publications that can support a stub article at best. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Obviously, the connection with GG Allin creates the most coverage, but significant coverage in specialist publications in addition. The article is well-enough done. Carrite (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Philippe Decker

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Nomination: Query whether Decker really warrants his own article. Suggest wikidata page should be sufficient. MmeMaigret (talk) 07:47, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think it's an WP:RS but this page has a number of references which might be tracked down.[32] This is probably one of those situations where the passage of time means we need books and online searches will be limited (there's an entry in New Grove for him, but that's just one). Oblivy (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oblivy: I'm currently on vacation, so my time for research is somewhat limited, but I did do a cursory Google Book search which turned up Grove - but is that an entry for him, or is he merely mentioned in the article on Luxembourg?

Regardless, I think there's enough out there to build at least a small article, but as I say, my research time is limited at the moment, and will be until early next week. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you're right that Grove only mentions him as a graduate of the Larochette school and "one of [Luxembourg's] best composers". Oblivy (talk) 06:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

‘’’Keep’’’ seems notable to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.77.96 (talk) 05:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources, No sigvcov, nothing on google scholar or google books.Molikog (talk) 05:44, 11 July 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Owen× ☎ 12:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The LB language page contains only one additional fact. Similarly it contains no sources, suggesting that he is not notable but, even if he is, that that page should really be extended first. MmeMaigret (talk) 02:45, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as creator (just realized I never formally voted on this). I suspect the problem is going to be that adequate sources are hard to come by online, and I don't know what the state of digitized print sources from Luxembourg might be. Oblivy: do you happen to have an account with New Grove? (I do not, and so any search I do there would be limited.) The fact that his name turns up in one of their entries seems promising to me. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have access to Grove other than what I could see at archive.org. I gave this a good search and found a few web sources talking about him including the one I linked above. And a number of discography entries I think. It wasn't like anyone was talking about him recently, at least not in detail. Oblivy (talk) 16:00, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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