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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Weber (artist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Artsy
No Primary source database No User submitted content by galleries/auction houses with paid subscriptions No Non-independent user submitted data No
Harpers Gallery
No Artist's gallery showing their work (PR) Press release in the form of a personal letter from the galleries to the artist No PR, not a review No
27East
No Press release in local paper submitted by the artist's gallery Press release No PR, not a review No
Dan's Papers
~ large portion of the text is the artist talking about himself/his work Profile in local paper ~ Hybrid profile/interview/PR for show ? Unknown
Glenn Horowitz Bookseller
No Press release from a bookseller PR No PR No
Women's Wear Daily "Fashion Scoops"
Yes Women's wear trade journal Yes Trade journal for fashion, lifestyle and women's wear Fashion scoop/society lifestyle (not a serious art magazine; text about Weber is partly occluded by a paywall.) ? Unknown
Gothamist
Yes Local news blog ~ Widely distributed blog Article is about a local controversy regarding his work, does not seem to be an art review ? Unknown
Grenning Gallery
No Art gallery showing his work Artist bio - user submitted content for selling artwork No Gallery listing No
Ochi Gallery
Yes Filler. Art gallery press release for another artist Yes The gallery exist and but this is a press release for a different artist; it is only a name check mention of Weber No This is a press release for another artist, who simply mentions at the bottom that they had shown their work at Nick Weber's studio No
Boo Hooray Summer Rental
No Press release for a show at Boo-Hooray Summer Rental, a "gallery that can be rented for shows in the summer" PR No Press release, connected source No
KD Hamptons Art Scene
No PR Puff piece local coverage Press announcement in local "luxury lifestyle diary" PR, press announcement in local lifestyle blog No
Chelsea Walls
No Interview in the gallery's blog Interview between artist and gallery No No editorial content, just a few questions No
Dan's Papers
~ Routine local coverage in local paper, interview with the artist's gallery Yes Local coverage in local paper PR for the gallery showing Weber's work ? Unknown
Printed Matter
No Book seller listing Printed Matter is a bookstore selling his book No Book seller listing No
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  • Delete The source analysis table, a nice touch, is very compelling and I couldn't find anything else of worth. Couldn't find a single museum that contains a collection. References are profiles. Nothing really. scope_creepTalk 16:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No Getty ULAN listing [1] and the source review table pretty much explains the rest. Lack of sourcing or critical review. Oaktree b (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I've spent quite a bit of BEFORE time searching of the kind of coverage needed for inclusion, and haven't been able to to find what's needed to substantiate this artists's notability per WP's criteria. The sources consist of user-submitted data, press releases, connected sources (such as galleries that show his work), hyper-local or PR trivial coverage, social media posts and primary sourcing. Does not meet GNG nor NARTIST at this time. Netherzone (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. No deletion rationale provided here or support for a deletion of this article. Liz Read! Talk! 22:06, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfDs for this article:
Margarida Fleming (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Neutral. As the original author of the article I do not accept suggestions that the article is inaccurate. To the best of my knowledge the complainant has not provided any examples of inaccuracies. Further, there are a large number of citations given. The fact that these sources are freely available rather challenges the complainant's request for privacy. I probably prepared the article after seeing a list of the "Top Ten Most Inspiring Portuguese Women",[1] which to me does not suggest a lack of notability, although I would agree that the subject, despite the quality of her work, is not in the first rank of Portuguese artists and her inclusion on Wikipedia cannot be considered essential. Roundtheworld (talk) 17:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Top 10 Most Inspiring Portuguese Women". Discover Walks. Retrieved 21 April 2025.
  • Question: Of the fourteen sources currently in the article, which one(s) are not blogs, user-submitted content, sales sites or primary sources? In other words, which are secondary reliable sources that are fully independent from the person? Netherzone (talk) 23:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question 2: OK, I'm confused. The nominator, Roundtheworld, who started this AfD says they are the original author, but are neutral about deletion. However the article history says that the editor, Umdiadepois, nominated the article for deletion according to their user contributions,[2] and they claim to be the the subject of the article, although there is no proof of that. Roundtheworld could you, when you find a moment, please explain what's going on, I'm confused. Thank you, Netherzone (talk) 23:27, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, I did not start the AFD. I responded to a notification that the page had been started. Umdiadepois had previously made lots of large deletions, which were reverted by others. I am reasonably satisfied that she is the subject of the article. Her first revert stated "Hello, I am the subject of this article. Some of the information is outdated and does not accurately reflect my current trajectory. I would like the article to be simplified, as I prefer to keep my personal and professional information on my official website. I kindly request the removal of excessive details and a more neutral, concise version of the article. Thank you for your time and consideration." Roundtheworld (talk) 09:49, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for explaining, now I understand. Umdiadepois may well be the subject, however, because this is a BLP, I think there is a procedure that has to occur to prove that they are who they say they are. If I'm not mistaken, they need to file an email ticket with WP:VRT that gets reviewed by a team member and assigned a number. I'm pinging @Star Mississippi for her guidance. (BTW, I have no opinion on Fleming's notability at this time.) Netherzone (talk) 13:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Netherzone for the ping. NZ, @Roundtheworld while that's the best route if Fleming wants to edit the article or under their name, it's not mandatory for us to consider this deletion discussion. They're welcome to open the discussion or weigh in and if they have specific privacy concerns about material, they should reach out to VRT/OTRS. No comment on notability as I haven't had a chance to dive in and it's late here @Justlettersandnumbers @Barkeep49 is there anything we're missing here? Star Mississippi 03:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think participants in this discussion, including any closer(s), are welcome to consider how to weight the request from an unverified account for purposes of Wikipedia:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:40, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Fleming appears to be notable enough based on coverage in Portuguese arts media. No nomination rationale is given here in this discussion page, but when Umdiadepois edited the page to place the AFD nomination, the edit summary was Nominating article for deletion – subject requests removal due to privacy, inaccuracy, and lack of notability. Umdiadepois has, in a prior edit summary, claimed to be Margarida Fleming. However, I don't believe Wikipedia is in the practice of removing articles simply based on the subject's request. As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the article that is derogatory or negative in any way, and even if there were, we could edit the article to correct that without deletion. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:03, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. No support for deletion beyond nominator. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Noever (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon search, I can't find any reliable, independent sources about the subject. Not to mention, none of the current sources in the article are reliable, which means that we can't presume that the subject is notable. WormEater13 (talkcontribs) 19:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Jiangsu Road (Lhasa). (non-admin closure) Toadspike [Talk] 13:00, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Monument of Jiangsu Road (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Currently, has zero in-depth sourcing. Could be redirected to Jiangsu Road (Lhasa), another poorly sourced stub by this same editor, which contains almost all the same information. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:00, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport#Terminals and facilities. As an ATD, closing this as a redirect, consensus that notability for a stand alone article is not satisfied, but it is unclear what should be merged given the limited material. As the article history will remain, editors can determine what to bring across. Goldsztajn (talk) 06:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of Ronald Reagan (Arlington, Virginia) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find any coverage on the statue besides its unveiling in 2011: WP:NOTNEWS. मल्ल (talk) 23:55, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Yes Yes No Database entry No
Yes Yes No Only 2 sentences are about the statue. The rest are about the man. No
Yes Yes Yes Yes
Yes Yes No Only 3 sentences are about the statue, the rest are about the man. And one of those sentences are about the people who were at the unveiling, not really about the statue itself, either. No
Yes No This is an opinion-piece about a writer's opinion of the man. No The vast majority is the writer's feelings towards the man, not the statue. No
Yes Yes No Database Entry No
Yes Yes No Just a photo with one sentence about the statue. No
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The result was no consensus‎. I see broad support for redirecting the page. But without consensus against keeping it as a standalone article, a redirect cannot be picked as an alternative to retention. Owen× 15:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled (Lee Kelly, 1973) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'll admit this one is pretty difficult to search for, but I don't think it's notable; the site for the capitol grounds appear to be the only real coverage of this piece of public art. Belongs on a list of the artist's works and a list of public art installations in the city. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. There is a clear consensus against deletion, with many editors agreeing that a split would be a good option. That can definitely happen, and I will tag the article suggesting as such. Eddie891 Talk Work 09:35, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mosaics in Asia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't see how this is one topic, and not just a grouping of topics across two characteristics (mosaics from certain regions / influences, and certain regions in Asia) which have no real common ground. I could find no good sources for this topic as a whole (looking for this gave results about mosaics in Asia Minor, which is not the same of course). Fram (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts and Asia. Fram (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I agree that the article lacks a common bond of mosaics in the different regions, I think some of the content is good. Mosaic is overwhelmingly about Europe (and it should make better use of summary style with its subpages), but the Middle Eastern and Western Asian section is relatively short and there is nothing at all about East or Southeast Asian mosaic art. This is a new article from a new user, so I would recommend they consider merging some information or working on it as a draft. Reywas92Talk 15:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Draftification and splitting into separate articles may be best. Fram (talk) 15:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, well sourced and very detailed, the stand-alone visual arts article presents the topic in an adequate encyclopedic fashion. Not long enough for a split, and no need to think along those lines. The page covers what it intends to cover, per title. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Which sources are about the topic (as a whole, not about some subtopic)? Fram (talk) 09:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The sources tie together around their common connections: mosaics and their existence in the continent of Asia. Asians artistic crafting of mosaics make for a well-done informative article. Nothing broken here. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not really how it should work though. If there are no sources treating them as one subject, we shouldn't either. It gives the impression that there is some common characteristic setting them apart from mosaics in other continents, as studied or described by reliable sources. Fram (talk) 09:53, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I haven't found any sources covering Mosaics in Asia as a whole (in a fairly minimal search, I must admit). I agree that sections of this article are worth keeping, perhaps as separate articles or in the Mosaic article. I did note that searching various terms, including "Asian mosaics", brought up several sources about Central Asian mosaics, both ancient and modern, eg 14th and 15th century mosaics in Samarkhand and Bukhara, and 20th century mosaics on pre-fab apartments in Tashkent [13]. This topic does not seem to be covered anywhere, not even in this article on Mosaics in Asia (and their existence brings into question the statement in the Mosaic article that "Mosaics generally went out of fashion in the Islamic world after the 8th century." RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:31, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve - I understand the rationale for the nom, but I lean towards an "Ignore all rules" K*eep if there is such a thing. (Note this is the first time I've ever suggested IAR.) When I consider if the the encyclopedia is better or worse off with this new article, ripe for improvement, the solid answer is that it is a positive contribution that betters the encyclopedia. I agree that there is some good content here and that the overall subject is relevant to WP's readership. The article is only one week old, and can be improved in terms of sourcing and format. A quick BEFORE finds many articles on JSTOR about mosaics that exist in Asian countries, but I have not had the time to read them all to understand if they discuss the entire Asian continent as a whole. Perhaps this is an emerging field in art history/archaeology. I think the article needs more time for the new editor to develop it, but it is not so "broken" that it needs to be draftified at this time. A simple "under construction" maintenance tag may be the solution. That and encouragement directed to the newbie editor, Jaynentu who created it. Netherzone (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Appreciate all the editors for your time and feedbacks. I do find more valuable sources for developing to improve the content. Certainly more time and suggestions would help to organize this work. Jaynentu (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jaynentu, do you have sources that you can present here that discuss the topic of Mosaics in Asia as a whole? That would be really helpful. Netherzone (talk) 04:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep looks well sourced. The topic is broad. Can be improved either way. Ramos1990 (talk) 03:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Split into region-specific articles: West Asia, South Asia, East Asia, and Southeast Asia. Perhaps even narrower: Persian mosaics is still a redlink! However, I recognize that this is unlikely to gain consensus at the tail end of an AfD, so in the meantime I guess we can draftify it or keep it. I don't think the topic is notable, which makes the article basically SYNTH, but the content is not bad and should be kept somewhere while it's being split. Jaynentu, thank you for writing this – I encourage you to write the narrower region-specific mosaic articles as well! Toadspike [Talk] 09:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I would agree with Splitting into separate articles (if this is a possible result in an AfD). I realised I didn't !vote above, but my comment that sections of this article are worth keeping, perhaps as separate articles, is consistent with Toadspike's suggestion. I note also that the nom, Fram, commented above that "Draftification and splitting into separate articles may be best." It seems that all participating editors so far agree that there is content worth keeping, and we are fairly evenly split between keeping as is, and splitting into separate articles. RebeccaGreen (talk) 08:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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