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House of Fine Art

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Was deleted back 2018, with a "The" in the title, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The House of Fine Art. Justlettersandnumbers's rationale from back then still holds. Not enough in-depth coverage from independent sources to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:27, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts, Museums and libraries, and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:01, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, placing "The" in front of the article name does not suddenly make an article notable. It was not notable when deleted in 2018, and remains so today after a google search. Iljhgtn (talk) 15:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: it's nice of Onel5969 to draw attention to my nomination of this for deletion in 2018 (thank you, 1L!). However, what stands out in that discussion is not my small contribution but the clear understanding of policy shown by two editors, Jytdog and NitinMlk. I encourage those who plan to contribute to this discussion to read through the previous one first. The new article seems to be a borderline WP:G4 candidate, by the way, but probably best to let this run now that it has started. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that a speedy delete per WP:G4 would make sense, but I think it is looking like it will be deleted anyway if the current trend on this AfD holds. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. It seems this gallery was not notable in 2018 and is still not notable. The sources consist of a short Forbes contributor PR piece on the gallery; the KIAF Seoul pieces is a modified press release; ArtNet is a subscription service for galleries and their listings, their "reviews" are not the same as serious art magazines and besides, it's a dead 404 link; The first Financial Times source is an article about NFT's with a mention of HOFA in one sentence, it is not an article about the gallery; the second FT source is about the artists, not about the gallery itself. Netherzone (talk) 21:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Art Arena

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This article about a "planned" museum has been around since 2010. While I'm not sure what the status of the museum is the only live source I could find about it was on the Roland Collection website. I don't see how this meets the WP:GNG in any way. Yeshivish613 (talk) 17:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Museums and libraries and England. Yeshivish613 (talk) 17:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Well, a "planned" museum that never appears to have happened, almost 20 yrs ago. PROMO gone bad, delete this. I see no current (or any) links to this project. Oaktree b (talk) 18:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - It seems this article was created as advance-promo for a museum that never was built. I'm not finding anything to support its notability. The one recent "source" in Ahmedabad Mirror written by "Agency" seems like more PR promo for the person who proposed the unbuilt museum; mentioning the "museum" in a single sentence. It's a very buggy/spammy site, rife with pop-up windows for various products and medical "cures". It is not significant coverage and seems unreliable. Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Netherzone (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vernacular Music Research

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Unfortunately, I can't find enough sources for this to pass GNG (though I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong). There's an hour-long presentation and... just nothing else. Even the obituary of founder Thornton Hagert has just a few sentences about it. Hagert himself doesn't seem to meet WP:NACADEMIC for his musicology work or WP:MUSICBIO as a musician. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:03, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Museums and libraries, and Pennsylvania. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:03, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I haven't found anything on the archive. For Thornton Hagert, though, there is a 3 column obituary in the Philadelphia Daily News [1]; he was asked by the Smithsonian to recreate a 1924 concert, and produced 10 page liner notes for the resulting album, which was nominated for two Grammys in 1982 (Best Historical Album and Best Liner notes) [2] (album review in the Institute for Studies in American Music Newsletter. here: [3]); review of another album for which he wrote 6 pages of liner notes in The San Francisco Examiner [4] and of another one here [5]; and there are other reviews of his writings coming up in a Google Scholar search. It seems to me that he would probably meet WP:AUTHOR (etc). RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:24, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:29, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment based on RebeccaGreen's work, would it be sensible to move the current article to Thornton Hagert ("Thornton Hagert was a musicologist and jazz historian who founded the Vernacular Music Archive, an archive...")? Initially, the result would be a bit of a coatrack article, but it would retain what's of use from Vernacular music research, and it would form a stub with the potential to grow into something useful on the man himself. Elemimele (talk) 06:58, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:54, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete article has been here since 2011 and has not improved. Is not notable. Ramos1990 (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. User:RebeccaGreen. are you arguing for a Keep here?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply I guess I'm arguing for a Keep and Move (and expand) to Thornton Hagert, as Elemimele suggests. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Museums and libraries Proposed Deletions

Dallas Contemporary (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)