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RC Calais

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They are a continuation of another club, Calais RUFC. SportsLover1967 (talk) 11:06, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep no actual reason for deletion has been specified, and it's not clear as to why this should be merged with the other article as they are separate clubs. SportingFlyer T·C 14:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They are the same. Same Stadium, Same colors and identical branding. SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The club is only 2 years old. SportsLover1967 (talk) 14:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SportingFlyer. No reason to delete. Giant Snowman 18:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. They are the same team. 94.196.144.75 (talk) 19:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Karlo Belak

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Footballer who only played in lower leagues of Slovenia and his homeland, Croatia. Regarding secondary sources, I found Germanijak, which is far from SIGCOV. I found another news coverage on RadioNG, but it's about an artist from Okučani, thus certainly not the same person. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The Germanijak link is an interview with him, he is also covered here. He is best known for playing in Europe with Milsami and was also covered [1] [2] and lesser coverage [3] [4] [5] Two other articles, one from Zadar and one from Moldova, appeared in searches but had digitally rotted. But there is more than enough for an article. SportingFlyer T·C 14:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan women's national under-20 football team

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This article lacks reliable sources, is very short, not maintained or updated, and fails to establish notability. It appears to be a non-notable topic with no coverage in independent, reliable sources. Ziad0tarek952005 (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect and part merge to Afghanistan women's national football team, should be simply enough to take some of the information which is viable and put on the senior woman's article under a new sub heading. Govvy (talk) 08:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:36, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan national under-20 football team

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The article lacks reliable sources, contains very minimal content. Ziad0tarek952005 (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there are sources out there, WP:BEFORE applies - see e.g. this. Article needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 18:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mama Diop

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, Sources 1,2,3,6,7 and 8 are at best trivial sources. Source 5 is an interview with the subject, and is not a secondary source. Which leaves source #4, which is hidden behind a paywall. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Per new sources found. Svartner (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Source 4 is fine, this from Senegal confirms she got an award [6]. Probably just enough. Oaktree b (talk) 19:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This [7], this [8], also are coverage from her home country. Also played for the national team, suggests notability [9]. Oaktree b (talk) 19:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Source 4, this source, is not behind a paywall and is a Radio France Internationale story entirely about her. The award she won from the French Football Federation is also well covered. There's a number of other sources out there on her as well. Silver seren^C 22:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Denys Marchenko

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Contested draftification; returned to mainspace without any source containing WP:SIGCOV contra WP:NSPORT. A WP:BEFORE search turns up only database pages and routine match coverage, nothing that qualifies for WP:GNG/NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:58, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe search in Ukrainian. I can see a lot of sources. Andriyrussu (talk) 18:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to share them (and add them to the article). I did indeed search in Ukrainian and found no SIGCOV, but if you can show me what I missed I’m happy to withdraw this nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. Per WP:NFOOTBALL criteria 1: Have played for a fully professional club at a national level of the league structure. He played 11 matches for Obolon in a top national league. [10] Teterev53 (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NFOOTBALL, its guidance for players has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports), and is included below for information only as a record of the previous guidance that the Footy project came up with. NFOOTBALL is deprecated since 2022; footballers must meet WP:GNG with WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How much sources are needed for player? Teterev53 (talk) 17:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two WP:SIGCOV at a minimum. Giant Snowman 19:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - there are some sources coming up in Ukrainian searches but none of them seem to show significant coverage. Sport Arena has a post-match Q&A and Sport.ua is just a transfer rumour yet those seem to be the best that I can find. The actual third party coverage about Marchenko in these news articles is next to nothing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tatsuya Morishige

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Only seven professional appearances in 1995, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hirotaka Iida

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Only one professional appearance in 2002, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Amateur footballer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.38.224.201 (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroyuki Takahashi (footballer)

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Only one professional appearance in 2002, and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 01:01, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chinguila

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Played for Angola national team, but I didn't find any WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 00:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Gee

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify not enough coverage right now, maybe in future if he plays some matches then there will be coverage. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Somto Boniface

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program

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Cleanup of series of articles created by now blocked SPA that has been creating multiude of articles on youth soccer in a local area that do not pass GNG RedPatch (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Not a notable enough for a stand alone article, user has been CU blocked, the article isn’t well written and it is written like a blog post, there are no independent reliable sources. Allblessed (talk) 23:41, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Illinois Soccer League

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Non-notable youth league which has been deleted before. Created by now blocked SPA, creating a multitude of articles regarding subjects in youth soccer in Chicago area that fail GNG RedPatch (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Brodi Hughes

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CPL Girls Soccer Championship Final

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Basically same situation as Amundson Girls Soccer, Illinois ODP, Lane Tech Girls Soccer. Non-GNG articles created by a SPA that has now been blocked for sockpuppetry. RedPatch (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Chicago Public High School League or delete, either is fine. Giant Snowman 11:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect – Per GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 15:30, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kohei Ueda

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Previously deleted by prod. 17 professional appearances, fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 00:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Tsukada

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Previously deleted by prod. 3 professional appearances, the rest are at a lower level. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 00:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, galaxies away from notability. Geschichte (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jun Kokubo

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Unsourced article by a player who only have spells at teams in J League 2 and below in the Japanese league system. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. 108 games in the J2 League, that's a quite different calibre from the junk we have deleted the past year. A thorough WP:JAPANBEFORE (as coined by @Miminity) is needed. Geschichte (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability - but agree with Geschichte that there could/should be coverage out there. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Brooking

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Non-league footballer. At least eight references here are primary sources. Uhooep (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. Two half-decent sources about Bafana, not enough. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:26, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amundsen Girls Soccer

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High school sports teams are generally not notable unless there is widespread coverage on a national level, which is not the case here. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:14, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete sadly it's a decent little article but the sourcing is just not here to support a youth football club per WP:YOUNGATH. SportingFlyer T·C 15:31, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:YOUNGATH covers athletes, not teams, although it doesn't appear that this subject meets the WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM either from what I can tell. Let'srun (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Athletes yes, but YOUNGATH describes what coverage is excluded for the purposes of youth sports notability, which includes almost if not every source here. SportingFlyer T·C 15:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Amundsen High School#Athletics – Where the team is mentioned. Svartner (talk) 17:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 11:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Redirect as per SporingFlyer and Svartner. RedPatch (talk) 11:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Lane Tech Girls Soccer

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High school sports teams are generally not notable unless there is widespread coverage on a national level, which is not the case here. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Lane Tech College Prep High School#Athletics – Where the team is mentioned. Svartner (talk) 17:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 11:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'Redirect as per above. RedPatch (talk) 11:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect per the above. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will Bates

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The highest level the subject played in was the third tier of American soccer before presumably retiring from the sport. While Bates was drafted and signed by the Seattle Sounders, a first tier team, he never made a single appearance. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Barron

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The highest level the subject played was the third tier of the US soccer pyramid and his career was brief. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No WP:SIGCOV in refs, so fails WP:SPORTCRIT. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:52, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG, no reliable secondary sourcing to confirm notability. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 16:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article says he played for the Orange County Blues in the USL Championship, which is the second tier in American soccer. Notaoffensivename (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was a third tier team when he played for it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orange_County_SC_seasons Raskuly (talk) 06:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops. Sorry about that. Notaoffensivename (talk) 07:31, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Bashti

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The highest level the subject played in was for the reserve affiliate of Atlanta United before retiring from the sport. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Subject appears to have coverage in [[11]], [[12]], and [[13]]. I'd say this subject meets the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 15:07, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aye Aye Moe

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Bringing this back to AFD 8 years later. WP:NSOCCER has changed and this article fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to ~~Myanmar women's national football team~~. ITYM "Bringing this back to AfD" not "GNG" above. Cielquiparle (talk) 01:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC) Note: Updating redirect target to List of Myanmar women's international footballers per discussion below. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:04, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:37, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as Cielquiparle stated. The main reason it was kept in 2017 was due to her national team appearances. However, many women's Burmese footballers don't have articles because they do not meet notability criteria (like her). Notaoffensivename (talk) 01:58, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - There really isn't any harm in keeping it. It isn't promotional, and does list an award she received. Notability could definitely go either way, but why get rid of it? I'd fall back on WP:NTEMP to keep it, even though it only explicitly applies to WP:GNG. - Ike Lek (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, because of how Burmese names work and how common a name Aye Aye Moe is, it seems really tough to determine whether or not she really does meet WP:GNG. Ike Lek (talk) 09:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of Myanmar women's international footballers which is imho a better target @Cielquiparle and Notaoffensivename:. Giant Snowman 08:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If consensus is redirect, this is definitely a better target. Ike Lek (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Sounds good. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Myanmar women's international footballers per GiantSnowman. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jorden Feliciano

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This was PROD'd. Changing to AfD for greater input. The prod reasoning was "Doesn't pass GNG, assistant coaches usually dont get page without GNG. refs are all just casual mentions" RedPatch (talk) 09:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- I basically wrote this article, but I concede the argument that it's of limited notability. (Sorry, I guess I got a bit too completionist.)

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Delete: Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

France national football team results (1920–1959)

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Unlikely search term, no idea why we need to inform people that these years are split over two articles. We can then also create disambigs for 1904-1959, or 1920-1999, or any other possible such combination from Category:France national football team results. As far as I can tell, it's not as if this existed but has been split, unlike France national football team results (1921–1959) which has some history. Fram (talk) 08:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note from page creator: I have no objection to moving the content of France national football team results (1920–1959) to France national football team results (1921–1959), followed by deletion of the 1920-1959 page. As Fram said, it has some history: a split. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I have copied the content over myself and converted the redirect into a disambig page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with Fram, unneeded disambiguation page. Govvy (talk) 09:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Per above. The content has already been properly organized. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - totally unneccessary disambig. Giant Snowman 08:17, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Zixiang

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WP:PROD reversed with summary "played fully pro games and abroad and has sources like...[sources]". By the age of 27 he has played two "fully pro" games, in China's second division. He did play abroad, but the writing "Spanish La Liga side Granada after training with Udinese in the Italian Serie A and trialing for Dutch club Vitesse" is missing the mark - those clubs' first teams play in those divisions, but he was on Granada's under-19 side. The sources provided in the edit summary are interviews from 2017, when he was a youth player. In my local newspaper I could find interviews with teenagers on the same topic, but that doesn't mean they're notable players. There's a genre of interest in certain youth team stars who never made it - such as Sonny Pike - but I don't think being passed over by Granada matches that level. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - @Das osmnezz mentioned some sources when deproded. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sources mentioned are [14], [15] and [16]. It would be helpful if they had been kept in the nomination statement, rather than replaced with [sources], so they can be evaluated by participants. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The sources I cited have secondary coverage... on top of that he has made pro appearances and was considered a top Chinese goalkeeping prospect who played abroad. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 17:51, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the sources, don't these fall under WP:YOUNGATH? They are pretty old though, so perhaps there is newer coverage that resolves this? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing is not sufficient for YOUNGATH and is not SUSTAINED, failing GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 17:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Just to clear things up, I was going to give Das osmnezz some time to add the sources to the article before taking it to Afd - I'm going to vote based on what happens to the article. I appreciate Unknown Temptation for starting the afd, don't want to sound like I'm annoyed about it xD - as in it's current state, it doesn't have enough sources. If Das can update the article and add the Chinese sources they know about, I'll vote. I'll keep an eye on this. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. Someone needs to explain the new sources as SIGCOV. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @GiantSnowman:, @Svartner:, @RossEvans19:, Sources include:

- [17] ("If it weren't for his 189cm height, Wang Zixiang, who has been busy following his parents and staff, would be easily ignored as a "runner". Unlike many choleric football teenagers, he was taken to the Workers' Stadium by his father to cheer for Guoan at the age of 4... Wang Zixiang's love for football came from his father. His father, Wang Aijun, was a die-hard and loyal football fan whose childhood dream was to become a professional player. Although he did not achieve his dream due to some unforeseen circumstances, Wang Aijun immediately placed his hopes on his son - watching Guoan at the Workers' Stadium was the first time Wang Zixiang came into contact with football. When Wang Zixiang was 5 years old, his father sent him to Balizhuang Central Primary School in Chaoyang District to play football. Former Guoan player Shao Jiayi started his football career here. Because the school was a boarding school, the young son could not adapt to the pain of not seeing his parents. Especially when he left home for the first time to go to school, Wang Zixiang kept hugging his parents' legs and cried and refused to let go. Fortunately, this period of time, which he described as "very unhappy", "always crying and making a fuss", and "unable to sleep", did not last too long. Two years later, Wang Zixiang joined the Beijing Cross-Country Football Club, and it was here that his football career underwent the first major change. In September 2008, before a game of the team, due to the absence of the goalkeeper for some reason, the tall Wang Zixiang was temporarily appointed as the goalkeeper by Coach Zhao... After training in the cross-country club, Wang Zixiang went to Shanghai to join the Lucky Star Club in September 2010. There, he got the opportunity to be selected for the Chinese youth team with his good performance. After that, Wang Zixiang also briefly trained and played with Shanghai Shenhua and Beijing Guoan. Although he just turned 18 a month ago, this Beijing boy has a very rich youth training resume. Last November, Wang Zixiang was accepted as a closed disciple by Beijing football legend Li Songhai. In the latter's opinion... At present, in the 1997 and 1998 age group where Wang Zixiang is, the one who can be called the number one goalkeeper in China should be the young player Zhang Yan who has just been transferred to the Beijing Guoan first team. In many competitions that the national youth team participated in last year, he played for the country as the main goalkeeper. Wang Zixiang is no stranger to Zhang Yan. The two had trained and played together in the Guoan echelon a few months ago. Unlike Wang Zixiang who spent his life in Beijing and Shanghai, Zhang Yan's youth training career represents the growth experience of most young players in China. They graduated from key football schools and then entered the professional club echelon, waiting for the opportunity to become a professional player. However, due to the incomplete youth training system in many cities in China and even in the country as a whole, not to mention substitutes, even the main players can hardly compete with amateur teenagers in Japan and South Korea. Therefore, in order to improve their competition experience, young people like Wang Zixiang have to change teams frequently - in order to have a stable competition position, they even have to come to a strange city to fight. Many years ago, Wang Aijun sent Wang Zixiang to Shanghai to play football because he didn't want his son to only serve as a substitute for Zhang Yan... this young man who idolizes Zeng Cheng and Buffon")

- [18] ("Wang Zixiang, a Beijing native born in 1998. He was selected for the 1998 national youth team and played in the 2014 Asian Youth Championship. Wang Zixiang has been seeking to study abroad. At the end of 2015, he went to the Dutch Eredivisie for a trial. In March 2016, he trained with the Udinese first team for nearly three months. On August 8, 2016, he joined Granada. Although he is a U19 player, he is currently training with the B team")

- [19] ("Who is Wang Zixiang?... He once played for Shanghai Lucky Star Football Club and was a substitute goalkeeper in the 97/98 age group. He first learned football in a well-known cross-country football club in Beijing. Because of his tall stature, he temporarily played as a goalkeeper, and then played goalkeeper until he entered the football echelon. With the help of the cooperation between desports and the Italian Pozzo family, Wang Zixiang got the opportunity to play football in Italy. Wang Zixiang will first receive top European goalkeeper technical training in Udinese in Serie A, and then he will have the opportunity to join La Liga and the Premier League depending on the actual situation. He will become the second Chinese goalkeeper to experience the atmosphere of Serie A football after the current national goalkeeper Wang Dalei")

- [20]

- among many more Chinese and Spanish sources. Again, on top of that he has made fully pro league appearances and was clearly considered a top Chinese goalkeeping prospect who played abroad. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 06:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please improve the article by adding sources and accomoanying prose, and ping me, and I'll re-visit per WP:HEY. Giant Snowman 07:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter what the state of the article is if the sources fail our guidelines. JoelleJay (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The sources above are covered by WP:YOUNGATH. Sources that tell us about a young hopeful who is off to play European football do not speak to the notability of a football player. We would need more sources over an extended period. These sources are from 8 or 9 years ago. If the young hopeful became a notable footballer, there would be more coverage of this. What happened after he got to Europe? Why do we have no coverage of that? 18 year old Chinese hopeful travels to Europe is not an encyclopaedic article, it's a human interest story for the Chinese market. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:00, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevon Harris (footballer)

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Played for USL Pro and USL Second Division clubs and have a single match for Jamaica national team, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 14:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Found this as well as mentions from the 2001 Youth World Cup. Geschichte (talk) 08:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Corey Whisenhunt

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Played for USL League Two and USL Pro clubs, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The best I could find was [[21]] which is a WP:YOUNGATH failure. The WP:GNG is simply not met here due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Toric Robinson

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Played for USL League Two and USL Pro clubs, but lacks of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 13:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ayumu Matsumoto

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Only appearances fo J-League 3, and a total lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I couldn't find anything. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia is poorly-sourced. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 04:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV for this footballer. The article needs to be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fin Roberts

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Declined PROD. Article with several basic information missing, based on two database sources. I couldn't find anything about him after a WP:BEFORE. Svartner (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft? Little bits on the web, Did you see those in your WP:BEFORE? BBC Line-up, BBC gets a mention. Mostly primary sources and databases online atm. Govvy (talk) 20:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Han Chang-joo

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Declined PROD. Only three professional appearances in J–League 2 [22] and a total lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. 3 appearances confirmed, subtract 3 from that and you have his notability. Geschichte (talk) 08:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. Article does not meet WP:SPORTBASIC. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 16:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Corresponding article on Korean Wikipedia is just an unsourced stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 04:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:57, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable South Korean footballer. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liam Borchers

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Not really clear to me how notable: sources include a few local news sites about his books, but the books themselves don't seem to be notable; orphan article and may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, so page does not really contribute to the wiki in any meaningful way while possibly contravening its terms of use Toffeenix (talk) 05:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails in GNG. The person who took the photo of Liam also created the article, which isn't always a red flag, but in this case it is. RossEvans19 (talk) 01:59, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing the GNG. With a positive outlook just maybe TOOSOON. The books are self-published, the coverage human interest. The editing does not look paid at all. gidonb (talk) 05:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete some not insignificant COI concerns, but also more relevant, the subject is non-notable as of now. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Ruscoe

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Person is of no significance LoveAlbatross37 (talk) 09:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, doesn't meet WP:NBASIC or WP:GNG as a lot of the sources are quite trivial or not significantly in depth of Ruscoe himself but rather the teams he was connected too, especially the non-local sources. Dank Jae 19:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a CV masquerading as an encyclopedia article. SportingFlyer T·C 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Fails GNG, SPORSTCRIT, and SIGCOV. Article should be deleted as this does not appear likely to change. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FC United of Wrexham

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Club are of no significance and have never played at a level of notoriety. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveAlbatross37 (talk • contribs) 09:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't trust the nominator, I believe they maybe a WP:SOCK. Govvy (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Owen Lunt

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Not a G4, but neither have the issues raised at either of the prior AfDs been addressed. I've also done some paperwork, but am not positive of the results. Star Mississippi 02:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep In one season he went on loan, came back and then went on to make a total of 19 professional appearance for Crewe. With the fact he signed a new contract, I'm under the impression he is becoming more notable. Regardless of the WP:PRIMARY sources present, there are a few secondary and if he has a good coming season then that helps even more. It's a weak keep for me, but I feel it's a fair assessment on his notability and where his career is. Govvy (talk) 08:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which sources there are secondary? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC ones obviously! :/ Govvy (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Okay, I see two BBC sources:
Rotherham United 2 - 1 Crewe Alexandra - Clearly a match report which is equally clearly a primary source.

Crewe midfielder Lunt signs new one-year contract - 81 words specifically about the page subject before moving onto other things. We learn he is Kenny Lunt's nephew, and he signed a contract. It's not SIGCOV in my view, but even if it is, this is still reporting the signing of a contract. That is still a primary source as there is no synthesis of sources here. It will have come off the back of a club announcement, and is not independent of that.

So, sorry, I don't agree we have secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:24, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BBC are a secondary sources and are not classed as primary sources. Primary is close too, BBC are not close to the club or the player. However what you say is correct in view of individual sources. Again, you fail to understand the rules of GNG, when one source isn't enough you can combine multiple sources. Also again, I said my vote is a weak keep as he is an active player where as more sources can be added as he progresses through his career. Govvy (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
??? 1. Of course BBC can be a primary source, such as for match reports or other breaking news. 2. Primariness has nothing whatsoever to do with "closeness to the club", you seem to be confusing that with independence. 3. GNG says nothing about combining non-SIGCOV sources, that's something only found in BASIC. JoelleJay (talk) 18:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A BBC match report is not a primary source. However, more importantly, it is also not SIGCOV. Giant Snowman 20:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's moot, but... if someone watches a match and writes a report of the match, how is that not a primary eyewitness account of the match? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A 'primary source' refers to "accounts written by people who are directly involved" (i.e. in soccer we usually class that as the player's club or similar) - not an independent journalist writing a report. Giant Snowman 18:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well I see where you are coming from, but that's not really a sufficient summary of WP:PRIMARY. The closest we come to that is in note d, but note d doesn't just say participants. For instance, it also says, A primary source is a first-hand account of an event. Eyewitness accounts are always primary for the event they describe. To be secondary, sources must be synthesising primary sources. The word "secondary" refers to this fact that secondary sources are synthesised from the analysis of primary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PRIMARY is not limited to non-independent sources. They reflect the individual viewpoint of a participant or observer. A recap of a match by a journalist who observed that match is primary. JoelleJay (talk) 17:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment with Govvy's input already here, I'm not going to G5 it, but dropping Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EnglishDude98 if helpful to others. Star Mississippi 12:48, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per discussion above, I don't see any secondary sources in this article. Match reporting is all primary, as are result tables. Interviews are not independent and primary per WP:IV. News reporting is primary without any secondary synthesis per WP:PRIMARY (note d) and see WP:PRIMARYNEWS. We need multiple independent reliable secondary sources with significant coverage. We don't have any. And WP:SPORTCRIT imposes an absolute minimum requirement that we must have one. Created by a block evading user, there is no reason to keep this. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Number of professional appearances in 2025 should merit coverage if notable - and note that this was likely created by a sock. Giant Snowman 18:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed as being created by a sock and therefore eligible for speedy deletion. Giant Snowman 20:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question GiantSnowman Not doing a WP:BEFORE today? How much do you want on the snip bits? [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30]. Plus the stuff on the article already. Btw, there are interviews by the clubs, but those are primary, I could add about another 50 citations for him on match reports and comments about him. It goes on really, I honestly don't understand why people are so adamant about deleting a footballer who has multiple independent sources of a paragraph here and there, a sentence here and there. It's as if no one gives a shit about WP:BASIC anymore. That's what, 10 minutes, 15 minutes of looking! I wonder what someone will find with a few hours to burn. Anyway I am going to go make some dinner now! Govvy (talk) 18:39, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did a Google search - nothing you have linked to is anywhere near SIGCOV. Giant Snowman 20:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. None of the identified sources provide the required IRS SIGCOV. Primary match reports, routine transactional announcements, interviews etc. do not count. JoelleJay (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Young footballer who never played at higher levels. The secondary sources provided are transfer announcements and brief mentions in match reports. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 05:20, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete though I do think we are very close to notability here - just need one more article on him. SportingFlyer T·C 15:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tsubasa Kubo

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Previously deleted via PROD. 3 professional appearances. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 22:07, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk)
Delete per nom. 🟥⭐ ^{talk to me!} 14:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails on notability searches for sources of repute. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks SIGCOV in my searches for the subject of the article.Lorraine Crane (talk) 10:18, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Cantrell

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I look upon this as a obvious failure of WP:SPORTCRIT, being that he only played competitive soccer in the fifth tier in Sweden and third tier in Finland. One can discuss whether The Daily Pennsylvanian contributes to GNG, but in my opinion, the article fails GNG overall. Geschichte (talk) 19:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The Daily Pennsylvanian isn't independent as a student newspaper and I don't see anything better here. Let'srun (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, an "obvious failure of WP:SPORTSCRIT in terms of notability. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:59, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Sources have been listed during discussion making them notable enough. (non-admin closure) Agent 007 (talk) 15:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Farid Alfa-Ruprecht

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 14:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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*Draftify Could become notable in the future. RossEvans19 (talk) 15:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. That is not a valid rationale for deletion. What did your WP:BEFORE give? I found two articles, one from Sport1 (Germany), one from Manchester Evening News, which look like WP:SIGCOV. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:32, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draft I personally feel these articles should be in draft space. This is the problem when you removed the NFooty policy. Govvy (talk) 21:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Govvy:, @RossEvans19:, @Robby.is.on:, Has sources like [31], [32], and [33] among many more English and German sources. Young player with ongoing career at one of England's biggest teams and is Germany youth international with sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep – Per Das osmnezz sources. Svartner (talk) 13:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Changing my vote to keep per sources found. RossEvans19 (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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FK Vysoké Tatry – Starý Smokovec

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Amateur football team which played a single season in the amateur third level of Slovak football, and other seasons even lower. All sources in the Czech version of the page are databases, no significant coverage uncovered during WP:BEFORE. C 679 12:34, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 17:32, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Starý Smokovec and add what little relevant information is in the article there. Newklear007 (talk) 09:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the above. Not much use redirecting since there is very little information as is. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samson Kpenosen

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Nigerian player who has only played for minor Vietnamese football teams. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I don't think they're minor. Do you really think so? They were top league clubs, and he was also among the top scorers of 2015. Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen that they were teams from the lower divisions. Still, there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. Arguments about level of play largely irrelevant. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Eric Barnes (soccer)

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The subject only played collegiate soccer and had a non-notable collegiate soccer coaching career. WP:GNG Raskuly (talk) 05:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I found [[34]] and [[35]] which are each feature stories providing significant coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 19:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Let'srun. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The Buffalo News reports show in-depth coverage about him. There are almost never any third-party sources about American minor league football/soccer players, and this is not the case here. Svartner (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Illinois ODP

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Creator seriously removing speedy deletion tags on article created by themselves, Article generally looks promotional, fails WP:GNG fails to have significant coverage, not properly writings, lacks inline citations. Allblessed (talk) 20:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This program is not a promotional piece or a non-notable subject. It is a state affiliate of U.S. Youth Soccer and has produced multiple players who went on to compete at the professional and international level—including Olympic medalists like Casey Krueger. The article is being actively revised to remove any non-neutral language and to include coverage from independent and reliable sources.

If you feel parts of the article were too close to promotional or lacked sufficient citations, that’s a fair concern—but it’s something that can be improved through editing rather than deletion. Milicz (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ and keep on improving. Nominator is right that the article could be improved, so I have tagged the article accordingly with the issues they have identified (more and better references needed, needs to be revised to be more neutral in tone, likely contains original research). I have also added {{citation needed}} tags throughout, and added a reference and confirmed that there is other significant coverage that could be added (via ProQuest). In any case, the reasons given essentially amount to an argument to delete because cleanup is required, and this is invalid per WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. (Even though the desire for cleanup is appreciated.) Furthermore, there is no mention of any WP:BEFORE search. Strongly advise nominator to gain more experience in reading Wikipedia guidelines and editing in their areas of competence before nominating more articles for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What do you see [36] there is likely a possible COI, tho I’m still checking, my issue is why the creator keeps removing tags, moving articles back to mainspace, creator lacks experience and temperament. Also can you show me how that article meets WP:SIGCOV? Allblessed (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
your comment that I “lack experience and temperament” falls afoul of Wikipedia’s civility and personal-attack policies. Per WP:CIVIL (“avoid personal attacks”) and WP:AGF (“assume good faith”), we’re encouraged to critique content, not contributors. I’ve been an editor for over 21 years and remain committed to improving this article. If you have concerns about neutrality, sourcing, or structure, please point to specific passages or sources so we can address them together. Milicz (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milicz Point taken. It is kind of you to defend the nominator and to ask for specific feedback. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:49, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to address tone, and have added citations or removed claims I could not find proper citations for. Added ProQuest citations. Thank you for your suggestions Milicz (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. First of all, it is very clear to me that neither of the tagged criteria for speedy deletion (A7 and G11) apply. A before search, which appears to have not been performed by the nominator, shows there is at least some indication of significance. G11 requires the article to be exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles (emphasis included in policy). Cleanup is required but not to the point that the article is not salvageable. Much of the content is unsourced and the references there are not great. Most are either not independent or are player profiles with one-line mentions of the subject program. Moving to draftspace will allow any interested user to build the article up to encyclopedic standards before moving it back into mainspace. Frank Anchor 13:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - poorly sourced, promotional article written by SPA - they've also written similar topic Illinois Youth Soccer Association. Giant Snowman 10:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suggesting that my article must be self-promotional because “someone involved in ODP” wrote it is an ad hominem circumstantial (genetic) fallacy: it rejects the content based solely on an assumed motive or origin rather than evaluating the article’s actual sourcing and neutrality. I have zero involvement in that organization and am still researching it.

For context, this article emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” You’ll see that the article:

Notes ODP’s changing reputation, including that it has lost some of its earlier luster rather than presenting it as the undisputed pinnacle of development programs.

Cites independent coverage—local newspaper articles, US Youth Soccer annual reports, and academic analyses—rather than relying on press releases or self-published claims.

Maintains a neutral tone, focusing on verifiable facts about the program’s history, selection process, and outcomes.

If there are specific passages you feel remain promotional or poorly sourced, I’m happy to rewrite them or add better citations. I’m committed to meeting WP:NEUTRAL and WP:RS standards, so please let me know any additional reliable sources I should include. Milicz (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program. This fails notability for organizations. There is simply not enough significant coverage in reliable sources to warrant an individual article for this org. Citing affiliated clubs is not independent. I mean Reddit is referenced despite our policy on Reddit. Two incidental mentions in the Chicago Tribune and sporadic mentions in the context of high school player plays soccer in regional newspapers does not cut it. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The citation to Reddit was for the "Criticisms and challenges portion" and is not used to support any of the facts or notability. Milicz (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. Please read WP:RSREDDIT. You should not be using it as a citation at all.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Articles about things you like are not necessarily good things. --Mpen320 (talk) 17:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who says I like Illinois ODP? Article itself emerged directly from the research conducted to answer the community question in Chicago: “Is Illinois ODP still worth it? Does it genuinely help with college recruitment?” As you can see (if you read it), that's an open question. Milicz (talk) 15:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I have started linking to that essay in AfDs because there is a subset of editors who think a Wikipedia article is a badge of honor and spend a lot of time trying to keep articles that should not exist. I could just as easily assume you hated ODP and wanted to create an attack page for this organization or that you are just very, very into youth soccer.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Striking my earlier !vote. Leaning either draftify or redirect to U.S. Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program; this article absolutely cannot be kept as is. Milicz You can't cite other Wikipedia articles. See WP:CIRCULAR. You need to remove all those citations you've added to other Wikipedia articles (I removed one for you and then stopped) and replace them with other reliable sources (see WP:RS). Cielquiparle (talk) 04:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No Wikipedia citations are used to support any of the points, they're only used to link to the individuals or orgs, I will remove them and simply use the appropriate tags [[ ]] Milicz (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK @Milicz...starting to look a bit better. Do you think you could work out a way to explain that Illinois ODP also fields competitive girl's soccer teams in inter-state competitions in the lead paragraph? I think that is not really coming through unless you read further down. (If you only say "program" it sounds like a purely administrative thing which makes people want to delete it.) Cielquiparle (talk) 05:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:The Tags on the article are too alarming, check creators contributions, there are high similarities on articles created, now for example the article title is "Illinois ODP" but the first text is "Illinois Girls Olympic Development Program", It seams to have a slight deviation from the article title to be honest. I was to suggest that instead of the creator creating similar pages with different Page names, It would have been wise to just create one or two and provide good source, good writing, formatting skills and make the writing clearer to anyone who comes across the article to understand.

Allblessed (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it's not uncommon at all for the article title to be short (see WP:CONCISE) versus the first bolded reference to the subject to be long (as examples, see Barack Obama or George H. W. Bush). Please also have a read of WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. You are right to want good sources and good writing, but AfD should not be your first port of call in addressing cleanup issues. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see the contributions of the user? Did you see the consistency in removing CSD tags and moving drafts back to mainspace? Allblessed (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Allblessed it doesn’t help to challenge my removal of the CSD tags when those tags were added without proper justification. Wikipedia’s guidelines need to be applied consistently—both when adding and removing tags. Rules aren’t one-way streets. Rather than creating disputes, which you have done on my article), it would be more productive to collaborate on refining and improving the article itself. Milicz (talk) 15:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Milicz There is a proper and well outlined procedure for handling allegedly improper CSD tags, and it isn't removing them yourself. When you create an article, you are connected to it more than any other contributor, whether one likes it or not. We know you support the existence of the article, you created it, and it is a conflict of interest to remove these types of tags from something you created, no matter how repetitive or improper they may seem. When you are closely connected to a subject, as it appears you are (whether you're affiliated with them, whether you are working for them, whether you just really like youth soccer in the Land of Lincoln; I don't care, it's not relevant, what is relevant is the level to which you obviously care about this), it is imperative that you operate above reproach, so as to not even give the impression that you may be acting in a biased manner. You are held to a higher standard of behavior because you created the page. You are inherently unable to view any of this completely objectively, and that goes for any author, who creates any page.

Regarding the actions of other editors, it's important to remember that each situation is evaluated independently. While it can be frustrating if you perceive another editor as not following guidelines, their actions don't justify a similar response. Our focus should always be on adhering to the established procedures for every situation. Further, they did not create a dispute, you created a dispute when you removed a CSD tag from a page you created multiple times. (Almost) any repeated editing back and forth as was clearly done here is a violation of Wikipedia:Edit warring. Wikipedia is a community of editors working to help bring knowledge to the world. The task we have is infinite. We are guardians of and contributors to one of the last stanchions of truly free knowledge, the responsibility is awesome, and it must be treated as such. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @Foxtrot620 I completely agree with you. Two wrongs don't make a right, but no one was harmed here and you can all still delete the article. Milicz (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reply @Cielquiparle I went ahead and made your suggested change and I think it works better. Now that I’ve reviewed the title, the article should be split into two sections—one for the girls’ program and one for the boys’. I’ll research the boys’ side before drafting that section. Milicz (talk) 14:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Delete: Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization simply does not meet the bar of notability or importance. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Strong Keep Regardless of any behavior by any editor, this organization clearly meets the bar of notability and importance. It'd be great if the delete crowd could backup the lack of notability argument. Do you not like women's soccer? Do you not think it's clear this org developed players that went on to represent the USA? Is the fact that those notable players advertise that they were in this program not an indicator that those individuals thought it was notable that they took part in it? It's referenced in plenty of material, but not the material you want? 20+ citations is not enough but other articles with a "need citations" tag can stick around for decades? I'm having trouble with the merits of the delete crowd. Easy call on this one for me. 4025MG (talk) 04:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment above !vote is by a confirmed sockpuppetry of Milicz and has been blocked. RedPatch (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. RedPatch (talk) 11:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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