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[edit]- Jeannine Haffner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Filing on behalf of, and also because I concur with IP 2406 who brought this to my attention following some cleanup I'd done on it in the past. Haffner does not appear to have attained any notability nor did the song. The article is likely a copyvio but reverting 17 years of edits seemed counter productive when I have not identified sourcing on which to improve the article. I do not think a redirect to Barack Obama 2008 presidential primary campaign or 2008 North Carolina Democratic presidential primary would be helpful to the reader so not viable ATDs Star Mississippi 02:19, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Ryan Vasquez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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it is not demonstrated that Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles is met. Imho this is a form of advertising and the article has been speedydeleted in several other language Wikipedias for example in de.wp) (also after a regular DR), pt.wp, es.wp (here also creation blocked after several deletions) and nl.wp. I would like to point out that en.wp has had a problem with this article in the past, see for example Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ryanvasquez19993/Archive. It probably would not be surprising if the users who are currently pushing this article (User:Traduworld and User:Infousaoficial) are follow-up accounts of Ryanvasquez19993 Isderion (talk) 23:40, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
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- The High Society (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged as possibly non-notable for five years. Band shares various members of other notable bands, but those musicians are not independently notable (WP:BAND #6). WP:BAND#1 not met; coverage is trivial at best (or is otherwise incidental mention in relation to King Adora) MIDI (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Nominator's comment: To address the "keep" !votes of the previous AFD (back in 2007): (1) Having 2 former members of a notable band does not meet (or no longer meets) WP:BAND#6 – the musicians themselves should be independently notable (rather than inheriting the notability of the other band), (2) Neither "I've heard of them", "they're influential", nor "they gigged in London" are a threshold for keeping. (3) At the time of the previous AFD, "criterion 5" was "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable". That is no longer the case. MIDI (talk) 11:39, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to King Adora#Post-breakup (2005–present). This appears to be a valid WP:ATD. ResonantDistortion 19:16, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Jade Louise (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Can not find any RS that establishes notability other than as a cast member on The GC.[1][2][3]
Her only song to have (briefly) charted was the theme song for the GC. Says she was a finalist on X-Factor, but she's even not mentioned in the wikilinked article.
Would say WP:REALITYBIO applies here. At the very least, this should be merged with The GC as that's what RS shows is notable, not her as a singer. Nil🥝Talk 00:20, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, or Merge as suggested above. I come up with nothing, but I have no access to New Zealand sourcing, if any exists. — Maile (talk) 00:36, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Some coverage of a Welsh actress with a similar name [4], but nothing for this person. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Top ten single in NZ is good for N:MUSIC. Even it is best covered in The GC article that does not require deletion. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This time i am agree with nominator. Ms Zade don't have any in-depth coverage to meet Wikipedia's WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Raj Shri21 (talk) 09:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Who is Ms Zade? This !vote appears to be about a different subject. ResonantDistortion 14:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps they meant "Jade" and made a typo. Gommeh 🎮 17:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Who is Ms Zade? This !vote appears to be about a different subject. ResonantDistortion 14:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gommeh:, Thank you. You are correct, This was a typo. I meant "Jade Louise". Raj Shri21 (talk) 10:54, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning Keep - clear pass on WP:MUSICBIO with a top 10 hit. Furthermore the NZ Herald has coverage including [5], [6], [7] and there's also some bio and coverage of her music at MusicNZ. Note sources appear to be inconsistent with her surname; the Otago Daily Times calls her Harawira Dewes; while the NZ Herald calls her Dewson-Hawera. I've gone with the latter and updated the article. ResonantDistortion 15:04, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. I do not have access to most of these sources (and it looks like one of them even returns a 404 error). However the subject having made the top 10 in New Zealand is a widely-recognized honor, as such the subject is notable under WP:ANYBIO as well as criterion 2 of WP:MUSICBIO. Gommeh 🎮 17:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Chang Ho-chirl (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined A7 speedy deletion (since it's not a recently created article, apparently). South Korean singer who is not significantly covered in any reliable sources, fails WP:GNG ApexParagon (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - this is not a keep/delete recommendation from me, but just to note that I found these three sources with a decent amount of coverage in Chinese: udn.com, sohu.com, zaobao.com.sg which suggests to me that the subject may be notable. I'll take a better look a bit later. Not sure about the reliability of Sohu as a source. But on the face of it United Daily News and Lianhe Zaobao look OK. It's a bit of a pity that the zhwiki article, which is lengthier, is similarly ill-sourced. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Krithika Nelson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bringing this here for a full discussion as the last AfD was lightly attended. I still do not see sufficient sourcing to indicate creative nor business notability. Star Mississippi 13:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: We still only have passing mentions.. Again, Same as last time in October, nothing has changed since then. The award might be notable, but we'd need much more sourcing than what's given now. I can't find anything extra that wasn't there in October. as stated in the last AfDs. Oaktree b (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I did a WP:BEFORE and found nothing, I believe that if there is coverage, it is in Tamil. Svartner (talk) 21:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that Wikipedia generally prefers articles/coverage in English to ascertain a person's notability. While there are only a few English news sources, the subject of the article is a fairly popular name among the regional audience. Beyond the existing references, she has been mentioned in and linked back from several other articles, which I urge to be considered valid enough to establish her notability. Aishu.m (talk) 05:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Links from other articles have no bearing on notability, nor does English language sourcing if you can show the depth of sourcing in Tamil articles. The issue is that mentions and popularity are not significant enough for notability Star Mississippi 13:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that Wikipedia generally prefers articles/coverage in English to ascertain a person's notability. While there are only a few English news sources, the subject of the article is a fairly popular name among the regional audience. Beyond the existing references, she has been mentioned in and linked back from several other articles, which I urge to be considered valid enough to establish her notability. Aishu.m (talk) 05:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- List of artists who reached number one in New Zealand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no context on how this list is defined and what "Number one" means, so it's hard to assess the validity or notability of this list 7804j (talk) 18:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:GNG. The only sources in the article are NZ chart websites, not enough for notability. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 19:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. This appears to be very poorly sourced statscruft. Ajf773 (talk) 10:07, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per lack of clarity from the title and the wholly primary sourcing. Surayeproject3 (talk) 17:12, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Desembra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Notability not inherited from collaborating with notable artists. None of the sources in the article provide him with WP:SIGCOV, and I'm also uncertain if all are reliable anyways as some are self-published. I searched manually through Swedish newspapers (they are not usually indexed in Google) and found zero mentions. I also wasn't able to find any additional sources in g-news, newspapers.com, or PressReader. Zzz plant (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Tunde Ajaba-Ogundipe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Entirely promotional and no WP:SUSTAINED notability backed up with WP:RS. Amigao (talk) 03:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Nothing of significance I can find. Subject very much doesn’t have the independent reliable sources needed to establish GNG because clearly nothing close to MUSICBIO. Pure PROMO at that. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I also found no GNG-qualifying sources in my search. The handful of independent and reliable sources that are currently in the article contain nothing more than quotes from the subject. MCE89 (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Meghan Andrews (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely unsourced, horrifically written (seems AI-ish) and seems like a COI violation. 750h+ 13:39, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, even if she were to meet NBIO this is so badly written and overly promotional we'd be as well starting over per WP:TNT. CoconutOctopus talk 15:02, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete as doesn't meet WP:NBASIC. I can find multiple sources that mention Andrews, mostly in reviews of stage productions, but not a single source that provides the tiniest bit of biographical content. Schazjmd (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Reviews of her work count towards notability per WP:NACTOR - they help establish the productions as notable, which in turn establish notability for her. So for example, reviews of theater productions for notable plays would count. Historically theater productions are covered in the main article for the play, even if the individual production has enough coverage to where it would pass most other notability guidelines. So if she was frequently cited in reviews for performances for say, The Trip to Bountiful (like this one by Variety or this by the Chicago Tribune), that would count towards notability for her per NACTOR.
- That's the catch with actors - it's best if they have coverage that focuses on them specifically, but reviews of their work do count towards notability. It might seem like this is being a bit too loose and easy going, but I will say that the vast, vast majority of actors don't have enough cumulative coverage. The ones that have coverage tend to only receive it for one production/film/show. It's still pretty exclusive. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 13:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm looking for coverage of her work, starting with the theatrical stuff. So far I've found about 8 reviews for her theatrical roles and I'm only getting started. Offhand it looks like she would pass NACTOR per this criteria: "The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". As stated above, theatrical performances typically do not have individual articles for each production - the article usually just focuses on the play itself and might list performances elsewhere - not every article collects every notable performance, as theater doesn't always get the focus it should on Wikipedia and when it does, it tends to focus on the major major productions.
- I'm just worried that arguing against reviews as a sign of notability in this situation would have a fairly negative impact on establishing notability for other stage performers, as it's difficult enough as it is to establish notability for them. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 13:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would agree with those two sources supporting notability for Lois Smith because each gives a thoughtful review of her performance, but not for Andrews who is barely mentioned in those reviews. Variety:
In the touching centerpiece scene on a bus from Houston to Harrison, Carrie bonds with a young soldier’s wife, Thelma (Meghan Andrews). [...] Andrews makes a sweet if slightly blank Thelma
Chicago Tribune:And we follow Meghan Andrews, who plays a decent young woman whom Miss Watts has encountered on her journey and who would help her even more, if she wasn't so scared of the world.
I found those reviews (and many similar ones) during my search, but I don't agree that mere mentions of her appearances are sufficient. Being a working actor isn't equivalent to being a notable actor. Schazjmd (talk) 14:43, 22 July 2025 (UTC)- The character of Thelma appears to be a fairly major supporting character. Not the main character, but it seems to be an influential one within the play. The fact she's mentioned in the review is pretty major. But aside from that, she's also portrayed major characters in other plays as well. She's a central character in Ladies, Doubt, and Collected Stories, for example.
- She's got a pretty large amount of sourcing for her work as a stage actress - I haven't dove into her TV work yet. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some coverage for her work in TBC. While it only lasted for 13 episodes, the show itself was notable and the character of Mallory was a major character in the books and TV series. She was one of the titular babysitters of TBC and was in every episode of the series.
- To be fair, I agree. Being a working actor doesn't make one notable. However the average working actor receives either zero coverage or is limited to a mention in a bulk cast list. Getting mentioned in an actual review, particularly by major outlets like the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, NYT, and so on, is far more rare and harder to achieve. Also to be fair, I'm going to ask for some more input from WP:THEATER for their stance on this. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:Theater looks a bit abandoned, so I'll also ask at RS/N and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies. As mentioned prior, this has the potential to impact more than this one AfD, so I'd like some wider consensus. I want to make sure that we aren't going to negatively impact other articles in an attempt to get rid of an article with COI issues. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually not RfC - I meant third opinion. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'll move that discussion to the AfD talk page, though. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually not RfC - I meant third opinion. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:Theater looks a bit abandoned, so I'll also ask at RS/N and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies. As mentioned prior, this has the potential to impact more than this one AfD, so I'd like some wider consensus. I want to make sure that we aren't going to negatively impact other articles in an attempt to get rid of an article with COI issues. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 17:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The article needs cleanup, but that's not a problem for AfD. Andrews has had some major roles in a couple of notable shows, but what she seems to be more well known for is for her theater work. She has over a dozen sources for her roles in various productions, with reviews in some fairly notable outlets. If her main claim to fame was just being in The Babysitters Club I'd recommend a redirect there, but again, the theatrical history. There has been some question about how in-depth the reviews need to go into as far as her performance is concerned, but I'll note that the reviews in question are overall in-depth about the production and in some pretty major, notable outlets. If the article becomes a target for promotional editing, then we can protect it and block the editors in question. I don't think that we need to throw the entire article away in this situation. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Rewriting has removed the need for TNT. Significant roles in multiple TV series is good for NACTOR. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:15, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep based on present condition and above commentary. TNT is overrated and taken too far. Fix rather than break, and the sorry state of an article is never justification for deleting. Notability is our god king. -- Very Polite Person (talk) 19:14, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Rishabh Kashyap (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable singer, fails wp:NMUSIC, No SIGCOV, just routine coverage. Created by a sock. Zuck28 (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: While the article does say he
is an Indian actor and singer
, the article (such as it is) is more about his acting career and does not bring up his singing any further, so NACTOR would be more relevant here. I have no opinion or comment beyond that, though. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Elvidin Krilić (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Semi-advertorialized ("he retains his love for the folk music of his people, appears with many traditional music stars, and actively helps young, talented musicians seeking to take their places in the music world") WP:BLP of a musician, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. As always, musicians are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass certain specific notability criteria verified by WP:GNG-worthy coverage about their careers in third party sources independent of themselves -- but this cites no proper references at all, isn't claiming anything about him that would be "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on the sourcing, and has been tagged for notability concerns since 2013 without seeing any discernible improvement since. And since his article on the Bosnian Wikipedia isn't any better sourced either, we also can't salvage this just by pulling over existing sources from there. Bearcat (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment – I'm torn, as this feels like it should be a speedy delete because it is a BLP without any real sources, and thus should at least be page blanked as a soft deletion because unsourced information should be removed imminently per WP:BLPRS. The only thing close to an independent source is clearly a fan-site. However, that fan-site has a helpful page of news coverage that has been archived [8], that could be used to save the article if anyone speaks the language. – Ike Lek (talk) 05:57, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Zeek (music producer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. The article doesn’t show that the subject has received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Most of the references are self-published or affiliated platforms like CanvasRebel, SoundBetter, and social media, which don’t establish notability. The tone also reads more like a personal bio or promotional piece rather than an encyclopedic article. Thilsebatti (talk) 05:57, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Sources are poor and unreliable. Fails NMUSIC & GNG. Written like a resume. Possible COI. Zuck28 (talk) 07:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Butterfly Vendetta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable band. Coverage from reliable sources is insufficient for establishing notability. Fails WP:NBAND. Also possible WP:COI or WP:PE. CycloneYoris talk! 21:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- I'm not understanding how this artist fails notability. The band meets at least two of the WP:NBAND criteria as outlined. They are the subjects of a feature documentary that has been distributed world-wide via Tubi and Amazon Prime. Additionally, their music has been featured in several independent films with global reach. Dndlive (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Further, a conflict of interest does not exist with this publication, as the artists in question are independent and representing themselves. They are not receiving payment and I am not receiving payment for proposing their inclusion on Wikipedia. Dndlive (talk) 21:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- I humbly request that this article remain published due to artists meeting Wikipedia inclusion criteria, and that I be given the opportunity to revise the citations in order to avoid bare URLs and have a clear citation style. Any help is greatly appriciated. Dndlive (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The feature documentary appears to be directed by the band founder, so is a WP:Primary source. I am not seeing evidence, in the article and WP:BEFORE, of any secondary coverage showing how the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO, including coverage of the documentary itself. As it appears to be mentioned in the article - I was going to propose redirect to David Dillehunt per WP:ATD, but the sourcing for the content in that article is also poor so I just don't see how this can be anything other than Delete. Happy to modify my !vote if coverage turns up. User Dndlive - if you need any help or hints on wikipedia notability please let me know. ResonantDistortion 22:08, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @ResonantDistortion: I went ahead and nominated that article for deletion as well. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Dillehunt. CycloneYoris talk! 22:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I am unable to find any secondary independent sources, all current cited sources are either trivial or not independent. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:BAND. Nagol0929 (talk) 22:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Svea (singer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After reviewing all the sources, it's clear they do not support notability under either WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. The WP:SIGCOV of the subject is in unreliable sources (non-bylined articles in sources considered dodgy per WP:RSN), and what coverage the subject has had in reliable sources is not WP:SIGCOV Cofalit0 (talk) 03:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC) (categories)
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- Keep, I think some of the articles are SIGCOV, and also found some more: [9] [10]. I believe there is enough here to satisfy WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. I don't see how the stockholmdirekt.se or Aftonbladet sources are not reliable and SIGCOV, what's your perspective? AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:19, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:GNG pass: Mitt i Stockholm, Aftonbladet, and Gaffa all look to provide decent enough coverage. Zzz plant (talk) 05:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - notable and passes GNG and does so with reliable sources even in the RS/P list. Should not have been nominated and nomination should be withdrawn 200.46.55.62 (talk) 01:37, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yabujin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Dubious WP:N. Lacks independent WP:RS: most used sources appear to be self-published, WP:PRIMARY or not reputable. Generally looks like self-promotion. Mindaur (talk) 15:23, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment significant coverage in Pitchfork here, haven't done a search yet Atlantic306 (talk) 23:32, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The Murder Junkies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Refs fail WP:SIRS so fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Meets WP:MUSICBIO#1 per secondary reviews and bios in WP:RSMUSIC publications: [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16]. ResonantDistortion 15:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I'm not quite convinced that they have generated significant coverage beyond their connection to GG Allin, but the previous voter found some valid stuff in specialist punk publications that can support a stub article at best. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Jon Wilks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am the subject of this page. I do not believe I have done enough notable things to warrant the page's existence and, as a relatively private person, I find the fact that it exists troubling and stressful. I would like it removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonwilksmusic (talk • contribs) 12:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete very marginally notable at all, so WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE should apply here Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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Can't find reliable secondary sources that are talking about this Indian voice actor. BEFORE searches turned up unreliable user-generated sources, many of which just seem to copy this Wikipedia article. This article used to have a single reference: a dead link to Sugar Mediaz's profile on her (obviously a primary source since she works there) and now has absolutely no references. Doesn't seem to satisfy GNG ApexParagon (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No sources and fails notability. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:14, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: As pe nomination. Garbage for Wikipedia. Zuck28 (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, agree with Agnieszka653. SDGB1217 (talk) 22:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete source are not finable and therefore fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV Iljhgtn (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Gosh Dilay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The references only offer passing mentions and didn't provide in-depth information to support a standalone article or biography, failing yo meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:BLP. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Sponge Cola, of which he is a longtime member. I can find no evidence that he has done anything notable outside of that band. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect as per above. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sponge Cola per above. AstrooKai (Talk) 16:03, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sponge Cola unless there are new cites that supports independent notability --Lenticel (talk) 06:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 02:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- The8BitDrummer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability. Article is unsourced, and there isn't any coverage from reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. CycloneYoris talk! 01:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Same article creator as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GrayStillPlays (2nd nomination); this is also just copied from Wikitubia. Even the Wikitubia article has a "Citations needed" template. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 03:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- If the whole content of the article was just copy-pasted from that Wikitubia page then that makes it a huge copyright violation. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 03:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, wait, I forgot that Wikitubia's content is licensed under CC-BY-SA. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 03:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- If the whole content of the article was just copy-pasted from that Wikitubia page then that makes it a huge copyright violation. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 03:37, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Not that notable to have their own article. Excelse (talk) 10:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - non-notable online content creator. Also, something I noticed is that the original creator changed the properties of the first commenter's response in an uncivil manner, so someone should take a look at that. [17] Surayeproject3 (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Non-notable YouTuber. GNews has nothing. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete — Only source cited is a primary source, and the only information that cites the source is The8BitDrummer's location (in the infobox). Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 03:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - not even close to establishing the GNG. Even if copying from Wikitubia is technically not a copyvio, its still not even remotely acceptable to copy/paste them as Wikipedia articles like this. Sergecross73 msg me 14:42, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I was thinking. No attribution was provided, either. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 15:01, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Serge and Christine Ghisoland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject appears to fail to meet WP:NMUSIC, in particular WP:MUSICBIO, and although they competed in the Eurovision Song Contest the lack of any follow-up career would place the subject under WP:ONEEVENT. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 23:26, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Does not actually appear to be a "duo", but rather two people who performed together for Eurovision and then did nothing else 'notable' together. Grk1011 (talk) 00:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Belgium in the Eurovision Song Contest 1972 as an ATD? Zzz plant (talk) 01:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect: to the 1972 article about that year's Eurovision is fine. Oaktree b (talk) 03:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Mr. V (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to meet the notability criteria of WP:N and WP:BIO. I cannot find significant coverage in independent reliable sources. There's an album review from The Skinny, which doesn't say much about Mr. V himself, and a four-paragraph biography at various places including Resident Advisor, Insomniac, and Last.fm, which was copied wholesale into the Wikipedia article (a clear WP:COPYVIO). Much of the article is pure WP:PUFFERY. The copyright violation and puffery can be fixed, of course, but fundamentally I don't think the subject meets the notability bar. —Bkell (talk) 19:29, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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LeaningKeep. Above the Skinny album review, there is further coverage in Gale A159707065, an album review in HX Magazine via TWL, bylined coverage in WP:RSMUSIC source DJ Mag, and another WP:RSMUSIC source calls the subject a "New York Legend" Mixmag, and also here and a single review. Article however needs much work. ResonantDistortion 07:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment There is also evidence of sustained WP:GOODCHARTS charting, per the OCC, from 1994 to 2008. Meets WP:MUSICBIO#2. ResonantDistortion 19:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- These aren't the same artist. Note that the original Wikipedia article did not mention "Give Me Life", which is strange if this Mr. V recorded a single that reached the top 40 in the UK. "Give Me Life" appears to have been mastered in the UK [18], while the Mr. V that is the subject of this article is American; Discogs.com says that the real name of the "Give Me Live" Mr V is Rob Villiers [19], while the real name of the Mr. V that is the subject of this article is Victor Font. —Bkell (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bkell, that looks a fair spot but I think the situation may be more complex than that. Three of those charted tracks in the link are definitely attributed to the article subject per the musicbrainz record. It's possible the OCC may have made the mix up here. Anyhow the subject has still had a #2 in UK dance chart which is no mean feat. ResonantDistortion 16:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where are you seeing that "Da Bump" reached #2 in the UK dance chart? That sentence in the article cites [20], but that page doesn't mention "Da Bump", as far as I see. —Bkell (talk) 16:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes it does, under the official dance singles heading. ResonantDistortion 16:45, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I just didn't expand the thing. 🤦 —Bkell (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes it does, under the official dance singles heading. ResonantDistortion 16:45, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where are you seeing that "Da Bump" reached #2 in the UK dance chart? That sentence in the article cites [20], but that page doesn't mention "Da Bump", as far as I see. —Bkell (talk) 16:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bkell, that looks a fair spot but I think the situation may be more complex than that. Three of those charted tracks in the link are definitely attributed to the article subject per the musicbrainz record. It's possible the OCC may have made the mix up here. Anyhow the subject has still had a #2 in UK dance chart which is no mean feat. ResonantDistortion 16:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- These aren't the same artist. Note that the original Wikipedia article did not mention "Give Me Life", which is strange if this Mr. V recorded a single that reached the top 40 in the UK. "Give Me Life" appears to have been mastered in the UK [18], while the Mr. V that is the subject of this article is American; Discogs.com says that the real name of the "Give Me Live" Mr V is Rob Villiers [19], while the real name of the Mr. V that is the subject of this article is Victor Font. —Bkell (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment There is also evidence of sustained WP:GOODCHARTS charting, per the OCC, from 1994 to 2008. Meets WP:MUSICBIO#2. ResonantDistortion 19:39, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified by ResonantDistortion such as the Skinny, DJ Mag, and evidence of charting so that WP:NMUSIC is passed in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: This might be the same person [21], doesn't seem to be a RS regardless. I don't see enough to show musical notability, the few sources are as explained, just not enough. Oaktree b (talk) 02:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's not the same person: that's James Virgil, not Victor Font. But this highlights the difficulty of finding reliable sources about this particular Mr. V. —Bkell (talk) 16:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as nominator. ResonantDistortion has found some good sources, has demonstrated that the subject is notable, and has done solid work in cleaning up the article. —Bkell (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Kamal Hosni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is about someone who acted in one movie and nothing else. Seems too personal of an article with barely any real information on the individual. GamerPro64 05:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I am unable to find neither information about the person nor anything that indicates they even appeared in the movie mentioned. Easily fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Nagol0929 (talk) 05:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Possibly also notable as a singer. The corresponding article in the Arabic Wikipedia has several references that could be added to this one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well the sources have been added but I'm not sure they provide enough information to show how notable the subject is. GamerPro64 03:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Philippe Decker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nomination: Query whether Decker really warrants his own article. Suggest wikidata page should be sufficient. MmeMaigret (talk) 07:47, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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- I don't think it's an WP:RS but this page has a number of references which might be tracked down.[22] This is probably one of those situations where the passage of time means we need books and online searches will be limited (there's an entry in New Grove for him, but that's just one). Oblivy (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Oblivy: I'm currently on vacation, so my time for research is somewhat limited, but I did do a cursory Google Book search which turned up Grove - but is that an entry for him, or is he merely mentioned in the article on Luxembourg?
- Regardless, I think there's enough out there to build at least a small article, but as I say, my research time is limited at the moment, and will be until early next week. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right that Grove only mentions him as a graduate of the Larochette school and "one of [Luxembourg's] best composers". Oblivy (talk) 06:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
‘’’Keep’’’ seems notable to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.77.96 (talk) 05:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Delete. No sources, No sigvcov, nothing on google scholar or google books.Molikog (talk) 05:44, 11 July 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE Owen× ☎ 12:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. The article relies heavily on primary and niche fan sources. There is very little significant coverage from reliable, independent sources that give any in-depth discussions of the band. They have never been signed to a major record label, their music has never seen any chart success, and there is no clear historical significance of the band, therefore they do not meet the standard of substantial, independent coverage required to establish notability. Magatta (talk) 05:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - the Hebrew Wikipedia article, סולסטיס קויל, cites two Ynet articles.[23][24] --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. This is a valid review in Israel's most sold newspaper. Not niche at all. I wonder if there are more. gidonb (talk) 03:25, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Article is WP:REFBOMBed with mostly one-off primary fan sources or unreliable sites (YouTube, etc.). The new reference in Ynet is just an album review, not really about the band at all. Without anything specifically about the band I don't see how there can be an article, especially one this detailed. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 10:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, no WP:SIGCOV. All the sources currently on the page that aren't to, like, youtube videos are very short and barely talk about him. From google there's a Forbes WP:INTERVIEW but that's all I found. I like the guy's music but he doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements for an article TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:49, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I am familiar with DB from Epic Rap Battles of History. From an inspection of the references, there appear to be many from YouTube and X, which are not reliable and violate WP:RS/PS. I am uncertain how to vote for now, so I will wait for others to give their opinions before settling on a vote. 11WB (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Found a feature from Huck (magazine). IgelRM (talk) 12:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - aside from the aforementioned Forbes article and piece in Huck Magazine I've found a short piece in Vice and an interview in Tubefilter, additionally it's a dead link but existing references in the article to Metro and a short piece from Computerandvideogames, all of which are notable outlets with their own articles. Aside from those, coverage of his work in TheNextWeb, an interview in Gizorama and an article from 2012 in VentureBeat. As much as a few of these aren't amazing sources (some veer into failing WP:INTERVIEW) I think there's enough here to suggest notability. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 12:26, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- forbes and huck -> interviews
- vice -> 3 paragraphs hardly in-depth coverage
- tubefilter is also an interview
- the metro article has half a paragraph on him
- computerandvideogames -> two very short paragraphs
- thenextweb is mainly about the video not dan bull, like 2 paragraphs mention him and only as the creator of this video basically
- gizorama maybe you meant to link to something else he's not mentioned?
- venturebeat is again not really about dan but a video he made
- The only significant coverage is from interviews which aren't secondary or independent of the subject TheLoyalOrder (talk) 21:58, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- While 2-3 paragraphs may not be in-depth coverage on their own, I wouldn't call them insignificant. It is a start, and if he's significant enough to be interviewed on several separate occasions, then it stands to reason that there may be more out there. Here are some other potential sources I found excluding several smaller mentions I skipped over which included an NYT article and an Indian business magazine:
- https://aestheticamagazine.com/youtube-killed-the-video-star/
- https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?auth=production&url=https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bwh&AN=8OGE.7E66604B.0D14FB4B&site=eds-live&scope=site
- https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?auth=production&url=https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bth&AN=59691139&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Also, surprisingly enough, he might meet WP:NMG, but I'd love to here from someone more familiar with those guidelines.
- - Ike Lek (talk) 06:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, not sure how I've managed to link the wrong Gizorama article; meant to link this - again an interview, but as Ike Lek says, it's a start. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 10:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- While 2-3 paragraphs may not be in-depth coverage on their own, I wouldn't call them insignificant. It is a start, and if he's significant enough to be interviewed on several separate occasions, then it stands to reason that there may be more out there. Here are some other potential sources I found excluding several smaller mentions I skipped over which included an NYT article and an Indian business magazine:
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- That merge or redirect would likely be confusing, as he was only a guest in that series to the best of my knowledge. Ike Lek (talk) 19:44, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Right, perhaps just a redirect although even that might be confusing. IgelRM (talk) 14:39, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- That merge or redirect would likely be confusing, as he was only a guest in that series to the best of my knowledge. Ike Lek (talk) 19:44, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/redirct per IgelRM. Subject doesn't really have its own WP:SIGCOV outside of the main article. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Have you read above? I do think a merge could be confusing as Ike Lek said. IgelRM (talk) 23:28, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to Epic Rap Battles of History; Aesthetica source looks fine, others don't appear to add much. IgelRM (talk) 16:10, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: One last try for a clear consensus.
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- Comment another participant had mentioned WP:NMG so I did a bit of digging. I found this article https://creativecommons.org/2012/05/02/musician-dan-bull-reaches-9-on-uk-indie-charts-using-cc0/ which suggests he might have charted with his song "Sharing is Caring". I have verified this information on the official website https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/23523/dan-bull/ but I'll need another opinion as to whether those subcharts would merit notability under criteria 2. — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 23:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning Keep: With several songs in specialist national WP:GOODCHARTS, a segment on national television [25] and [26] where a reliable source is calling him one of the "internet's biggest names", a Toronto Star pick, and the multiple non-trivial coverage identified above, just about enough the presume a Keep - particularly if all the sources are combined per WP:BASIC. Furthermore there is secondary coverage in WP:RS interview articles with a depth of preparation, then per WP:INTERVIEW#Notability that bylined coverage may count towards notability. ResonantDistortion 12:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The song “Sharing is Caring” charted in British Hip Hop and R&B Singles charts in 2012, but that isn't criteria 2 "national music chart". I don't think "The 50 Funniest Moments of 2012" and Rich Fulcher "media mashups" are particular relevant. The Toronto Star video is more specifically about Lily Allen. IgelRM (talk) 23:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Bull charted on the UK Hip Hop and R&B Singles and Albums Charts, and twice on the UK Independent Singles and Albums Charts; both national charts but speciality as I indicated above; not slamdunk conclusive on their own but a good indication of WP:MBIO nonetheless. There is a biography on laut.de which is trending reliable per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#laut.de. Furthermore Game Informer, which is an WP:VG/RS, has a bylined article calling the subject "the Mike Skinner of video games". There are further coverage in articles such as [27] and [28] and [29]. With all the sources identified above, such as [30] and [31] and [32], coupled with the charting, there does appear sufficient non-trivial coverage to build an article and presume notability. ResonantDistortion 22:48, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The song “Sharing is Caring” charted in British Hip Hop and R&B Singles charts in 2012, but that isn't criteria 2 "national music chart". I don't think "The 50 Funniest Moments of 2012" and Rich Fulcher "media mashups" are particular relevant. The Toronto Star video is more specifically about Lily Allen. IgelRM (talk) 23:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning Keep: With several songs in specialist national WP:GOODCHARTS, a segment on national television [25] and [26] where a reliable source is calling him one of the "internet's biggest names", a Toronto Star pick, and the multiple non-trivial coverage identified above, just about enough the presume a Keep - particularly if all the sources are combined per WP:BASIC. Furthermore there is secondary coverage in WP:RS interview articles with a depth of preparation, then per WP:INTERVIEW#Notability that bylined coverage may count towards notability. ResonantDistortion 12:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand why this article is being considered for deletion. Dan Bull has a significant number of YouTube views and listens into the millions on YouTube Music. If we're considering deleting this article there are hundreds, if not thousands, of musicians that could also be considered for deletion. Not having a mainstream media presence, which appears to be the argument here, has no relevance to someone's artistic merit or the merit of them having a Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntJack1981 (talk • contribs) — AntJack1981 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- You're welcome to nominate those articles, but please read WP:OSE and N:MUSIC before you do as you have a fundamental misunderstanding of notability which is understandable, but does not make your case. Star Mississippi 12:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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