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This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section – it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

Sheikh Hasina in 2024
Sheikh Hasina

Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Headers

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

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  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

Archives

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Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

Sections

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


November 22

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RD: JoAnn Persch

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Article: Pat Murphy and JoAnn Persch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC7 Chicago
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American religious sister and immigration activist. Died on November 14, but appears death was announced on November 17. ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 21

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RD: Eli Zeira

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Article: Eli Zeira (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of Israel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Israeli intelligence officer and director of the Military Intelligence Directorate during the Yom Kippur War. Chomik! (talk?) 01:35, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Miss Universe

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Article: Miss Universe 2025 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Fátima Bosch of Mexico is crowned Miss Universe 2025. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Fátima Bosch of Mexico is crowned Miss Universe 2025, after being referred to as "dumb" by a ceremony official before the event.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

 Rushtheeditor (talk) 16:44, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alt blurb is totally irrelevant. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:16, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Second. I personally don't care that one official called the eventual winner dumb. CREditzWiki (yap) | (things i apparently did) 00:02, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd hate to be that person that brings up page view stats, but this event that's not important has more page views than 2025 MotoGP World Championship, which is automatically important. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:24, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't really comparable. This is one of four annual beauty pageants as opposed the the MotoGP World Championship which is the top event in the world. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:04, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of the four, there are only two that may surpass WP:ITNSIGNIF: Universe and World, and I suppose the men here are abhorrent to posting one, much more both. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 20

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RD: Spencer Lofranco

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Article: Spencer Lofranco (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline The Independent
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian actor best known for his roles in Jamesy Boy, Unbroken, and GottiItsShandog (talk) 20:42, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not ready filmography is unsourced as are a few sentences (homeless on the beach with the nickname "Fire", for instance) 1brianm7 (talk) 05:32, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have added citations to filmography section and that sentence you mentioned must of been removed as I don't see it anymore. ItsShandog (talk) 09:14, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support nice work, article is in a better, fully cited, state. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:36, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Tongan general election

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Article: 2025 Tongan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ten members of the Legislative Assembly of Tonga retain their seats in the general election. (Post)
News source(s): Matangi Tonga
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 ArionStar (talk) 14:39, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Gary "Mani" Mounfield

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Article: Mani (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Basist with The Stone Roses and Primal Scream Ceoil (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 19

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Nexperia

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Article: Nexperia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Netherlands suspends its takeover of Chinese-owned Nexperia. (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

 Pretty big news in the econ front of having the state-takeover of a company reversed due to pressure.Psephguru (talk) 09:34, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for now. This is a huge domestic news story here, so I can definitely imagine a feature based on it. However, the article has only been updated with a single sentence, and I have a hard time gauging what "suspended control" even really means. What has changed? Much more prose is necessary here. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:23, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Chinese owned resumed ownership in running the company.Psephguru (talk) 11:36, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A single-sentence news update doesn't really warrant featuring on the Wikipedia frontpage. We want that, when readers click on the article, they learn more about the subject. The entire incident is just a single paragraph. It gives some good context, but it doesn't feel like the level we should look for for frontpage features. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:38, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work to explain what's going on. This used to be part of the big Dutch conglomerate, Philips. It makes chips and is an essential supplier of them to the auto industry. It has now become part of the US/China trade war and Chinese pushback is disrupting the auto industry. To coin a phrase, "Everything's Computer!". Andrew🐉(talk) 13:09, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Roza Jalilova

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Article: Roza Jalilova (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): apa
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Azerbaijani dancer. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 04:15, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Corruption in Ukraine

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Article: Operation Midas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ukrainian parliament votes to dismiss Minister of Justice German Galushchenko and Minister of Energy Svitlana Hrynchuk amid wartime corruption scandal investigated by the Operation Midas. (Post)
News source(s): The Kyiv Independent, Reuters
Article needs updating
 UCinternational (talk) 11:47, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – This article feels like the platonic ideal of an ITN feature. I can see a lot of work has been put into it in the past week. I would like to see the [failed verification] in the lede cleaned up first, but otherwise it looks good. I expect a lot of !votes related to whether this is already covered by our existing Ongoing articles, but it looks like Midas is not mentioned in either article currently, so it's not covered. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:03, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It's in the news but my concern is whether we should be highlighting this in particular when there's so much corruption elsewhere. :For example:
  1. Milan’s real estate corruption probe in doubt
  2. Police raid Portugal's TAP airline in corruption probe
  3. Albania is fighting corruption. The accused are fighting back
  4. Man who testified in Histadrut corruption probe dies by suicide
  5. A year of Serbian anti-Corruption Protests
  6. Top PLA heads have rolled but China’s hunt for corrupt military officials may be here to stay
These are all fairly fresh stories that one finds when searching for "corruption" but I'm not sufficiently familiar with the details to evaluate their comparative merits.
Andrew🐉(talk) 15:17, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We should wait until there us a court case and decision on guilt, rather than intermediate actions, in the cases of govt corruption. BLPCRIME concerns and all that in addition to typical ITN caution to wait for such verdicts. Masem (t) 15:21, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose/Wait for conviction per WP:BLPCRIME. ~2025-34764-67 (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support now There is no need to wait, the story is that they have been dismissed from their ministerial postions, and the reasons given are due that this is due to Midas, so where is the BLP violation? Whether fairly or not is another matter but there's no inferrence of crime here, just pure statement of fact. We rarely have a corruption story with a definite "blurbworthy" moment which can be nailed on to a specific time and place, and if we wait, then what usually happens in corruption cases, there will be appeals, counter-suits, political maneuvering, blame-shifting and all sorts of judicial wrangling before it all fizzles out with either one or two scapegoats or with blame completely dissipated over time. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:39, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Major political scandal in the Ukraine, developing just now.Wi1-ch (talk) 19:10, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A developing political scandal is very much not appropriate for ITN, unless it was the arrest of the sitting national leader. Masem (t) 19:38, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want to be that guy, but we're putting cabinet members being removed from office into ITN now? Howard the Duck (talk) 19:17, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose An anti-corruption investigation revealing corruption in one of the most corrupt countries in the world isn't really major news, and the removal from office of the two ministers involved isn't a significant change in the country's politics. Unless this story further results in mass convictions of high-profile political figures or Zelenskyy is held accountable and removed from office because he appointed the two corrupt ministers, this seems like a staged scandal to please the EU politicians that Ukraine is fighting corruption.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeCorruption in Ukraine is common enough for this particular story to not be posted to ITN. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 20:45, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Portrait of Elisabeth Lederer

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Article: Portrait of Elisabeth Lederer (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Gustav Klimt's Portrait of Elisabeth Lederer (pictured) sells at auction for US$236.4 million, making it the most expensive piece of modern art in history. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Gustav Klimt's Portrait of Elisabeth Lederer (pictured) sells for US$236.4 million, making it the second most valuable artwork ever sold at auction.
News source(s): ABC, BBC, CNN, NBC, Guardian, NYT
Credits:
 Golem08 (talk) 02:39, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oppose not a record, so not notable. just like every female or LGBT head of govt is not going to be posted for that reason these days.Psephguru (talk) 12:25, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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November 18

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(Closed) Epstein files votes

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Article: Epstein Files Transparency Act (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the United States, the House of Representatives and the Senate vote nearly unanimously to pass the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which would release the Epstein files. (Post)
News source(s): NBC - HoP, CNN - S
Credits:
   Jalapeño   (u t g) 19:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: André Chandernagor

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Article: André Chandernagor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French politican who served in various influential positions. Article is fully sourced and adequate in length. --The Robot Parade 19:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 World Shooting Championship

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Article: 2025 ISSF World Shooting Championships (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China wins the 2025 World Shooting Championships in Cairo, Egypt, with 21 medals. (Post)
News source(s): [Xinhua], [People's Daily]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Woefully undersourced, but the world championships in shooting Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:40, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Decriminalization of sodomy in the military and police justice of the Dominican Republic

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Article: LGBT rights in the Dominican Republic (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Constitutional Court of the Dominican Republic rules that the criminalization of sodomy in both military and police justice is unconstitutional. (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Article needs updating

 Nika de Hitch (talk) 19:30, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Randy Jones

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Article: Randy Jones (baseball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The San Diego Union-Tribune
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American baseball player, former Cy Young Award winner. —Bagumba (talk) 16:20, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Randy Burke

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Article: Randy Burke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WKYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American football wide receiver for the Baltimore Colts. Article is somewhat short but long enough and fully sourced. --The Robot Parade 05:18, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Singapore qualifies for the 2027 AFC Asian Cup

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Article: 2027 AFC Asian Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ For the first time, the Singapore national football team have qualified for the Asian Cup on merit. (Post)
News source(s): CNA, SCMP
Credits:
Actually, Curaçao and Haiti have just qualified. That's pretty special. HiLo48 (talk) 06:30, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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November 17

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(Closed) Gaza peace plan endorsed by the United Nations Security Council

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Article: United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Gaza peace plan has been endorsed by the United Nations Security Council. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United Nations Security Council passes a resolution to endorse the Gaza peace plan.
News source(s): [3]
Article updated
 Wi1-ch (talk) 16:21, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The NYT analysis says that "And Hamas has made clear it will not make things easy. The group rejected the U.N. resolution, saying on Tuesday that involving the International Stabilization Force in disarming it would turn the force into “a party to the conflict on behalf of” Israel." If Hamas doesn't agree with the resolution then it seems dead before it has started. Turning this round will mean more action on the ground and further negotiation and that's what we have Ongoing for. Note that the target article's lead doesn't explain that Hamas is dissenting from this Resolution and so gives a misleading impression that everything is on track. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:36, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose a classic case of "covered by the ongoing". This is not that much of a significant development. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:27, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2025 Medina bus crash

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Article: 2025 Medina bus crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A bus carrying Umrah pilgrims to Mecca collides with a tanker in Medina, Saudi Arabia, killing at least 45 people. (Post)
News source(s): NYT The Hindu Al Jazeera CBC O Globo
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Working on it. ArionStar (talk) 03:38, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Withholding judgement until the article is more complete, but haven't these incidents involving pilgrims become relatively routine? I feel like I see at least one a year.–DMartin 03:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Rebecca Heineman

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Article: Rebecca Heineman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): PC Gamer
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American game developer and LGBT activist. Article needs more sources, especially for games she worked on, but improvements are ongoing. MidnightMayhem (talk) 00:56, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted RD) RD/blurb: Kessler Twins

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Article: Kessler Twins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  The Kessler Twins (pictured), who were a famous double-act, choose to die together on the same day. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, EuroNews, Times of India, The Times, Die Zeit
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous German singers, dancers and actresses. Grimes2 17:26, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose blurb. RD is sufficient. Natg 19 (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb article appears good to post. Blurb absolutely not necessary, no indication of how they were a major figure, and while it's an unusual case of choosing to use assisted suicide to die at the same time, that is completely legal in Germany and not uncommon itself. That factoid is better for DYK than as a blurb Masem (t) 22:08, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's all wrong.
    1. This is mainly a case of "death-is-the-story", not "major figure", though they do seem quite famous too.
    2. Such duo-suicide is quite rare -- see BBC report on another case, for example, which explicitly says "it’s rare".
    3. Assisted suicide is fairly new to Germany, dating from a court ruling in 2020, and the overall numbers are still fairly low there. And most countries don't have it at all, of course.
    4. As usual, the article doesn't qualify for DYK as the article was created in 2006 which shows how notable they were.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 21:58, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb - This is obviously not a suitable nomination for a blurb, and Andrew has made so many such nominations recently that it's getting to be disruptive even apart from everything else about how he uses ITNC. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:16, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb as per above. RD is sufficient. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:25, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb As per reasons above TheFellaVB (talk) 02:18, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question This is a very unusual nomination, as articles about duos where neither of the two are independently notable enough to have their own page are already very few in number, and then it is even more rare for both members of such a duo to die in conjunction with each other and on the same date. With this said, I am wondering whether it would be more respectful or in keeping with the obituary-esque nature of the RD section to include them as Alice Kessler and Ellen Kessler as opposed to "Kessler twins". They were individual human beings who lived their own lives, after all. FlipandFlopped 03:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • To some extent I agree, but I think there's a reason they decided to go out together. They were clearly a duo in almost every aspect of life. I wouldn't consider it disrespectful when it seems like that may be exactly how they want to be remembered. ----The Robot Parade 05:23, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WHy not a compromise like "Alice and Ellen Kessler" for RD. The German Wikipedia did it the same way. --Clibenfoart (talk) 09:24, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That seems like a perfectly reasonable approach. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:34, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Re-posted) Hasina conviction

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Article: Trial of Sheikh Hasina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: In Bangladesh, the International Crimes Tribunal rules that former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina (pictured) is found guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Bangladeshi International Crimes Tribunal convicts former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina (pictured) of crimes against humanity and sentences her to death.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina (pictured) is found guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death in absentia.
News source(s): DT ABC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Started reading the verdict, so imminent on the judgement. It is notable though. Psephguru (talk) 08:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - At the time of writing this comment, the blurb ends "rules that former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina is." She does presumably exist, but could we not put nominations up until we know what the story is, please? GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:34, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reading is currently under way already Guilty already. Dunno the punishedment, but this is notable itself.Psephguru (talk) 08:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you not have waited 10 minutes, and put up a complete nomination first time? No-one is going to reward you, or any of us, for rushing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:44, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have no doubt that she indeed is.   Jalapeño   (u t g) 13:17, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Altblurb added.   Jalapeño   (u t g) 08:55, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The International Crimes Tribunal is a terribly misleading name given it's a Bangladeshi court; let's shorten it to ICT maybe or add the description "Bangladesh's" before it? Abcmaxx (talk) 09:10, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, for the altblurb.   Jalapeño   (u t g) 09:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with altblurb. Also to wait a little, because fixed sourced will come soon, but I am updating it with what is in.Psephguru (talk) 09:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on quality and notability with altblurb There will probably much more to come given the gravity of the verdict but as it stands the article is comprehensive, easy to read and sourced. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:47, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The death penalty of a former prime minister is notable, and the target article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support/altblurb/comment Added another alt, don't believe the court name is neccessary (not really a known body internationally). The other blurbs fail to say that it was in absentia, which is a big deal. Happy to change them if needed, but thought it best the users who wrote them add it if needed.Basetornado (talk) 09:54, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The tribunal is a domestic one not an international body and was set up for the civil war which resulted in the creation of Bangladesh but it's now being used for a political show trial of an opposition leader. The death penalty is not happening because she is in exile in India, who is not going to be giving her up, right? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those are all good reasons to post. Abductive (reasoning) 10:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Her authoritarian rule caused thousands of deaths and tens of thousands injuries, including in one of the bloodiest crackdowns in recent history, not to mention the decades-long systematic persecution of political rivals with extrajudicial killings and abductions. Whatever Bangladesh's governance and judicial deficiencies, or stance on capital punishment, calling it a show trial effectively calling it a kangaroo court is a massively biased and partisan stance. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is just the way politics is done now in South Asia. Over in West Pakistan, the military regime is repressing the opposition but we're not posting about crimes against humanity there; instead the blurb is of a grand constitutional amendment to give them legal immunity from such considerations. Obviously these legal systems are quite partisan, serving the interests of whoever happens to be in power. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since ITN is objective and not a blog or all the commentary on twitter last few hours.Psephguru (talk) 11:56, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:ITNSIGNIF, ITN is actually "highly subjective" and it shows. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:03, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two things can be true at once though, just because the Bangladeshi judicial process isn't great that doesn't automatically mean she was held responsible for atrocious crimes without reason. Also you would be hard-pressed to find any non-contentious sentencing of a high-ranking official even functioning democracies: was Sarkozy's sentence too lenient? Was Bolsonaro's too harsh? What about Assad fleeing to Moscow and being tried in absentia? Netenyahu's and Putin's Hague arrest warrants? What about even a relatively low-ranking Marcin Romanowski being granted asylum by Orban to avoid bring tried for some pretty brazen theft of public funds in Poland claiming the Polish now government and former opposition is out to get him? These are things all happening even in well-established non-authoritarian democratic countries. Few would question Hasina's culpability, and even fewer leaders of such stature are held to account by any court. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You claim that these things are rare but my impression is that they are common and you list a bunch of recent examples. What matters is who holds power and we already posted details of her being deposed and fleeing. This show trial is just a coda and formality. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:07, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree, trials and judicial processes are important. We posted both ICC arrest warrants, Bolsonaro's conviction and a bit further back Frank Bainimarama's incarceration. Even with those precedents, none of these were convictions for crimes against humanity, that is the most of serious of charges one can face, on top of that there's a capital punishment element. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I wish to draw attention to Andrew's use of 'West Pakistan' here, because that would appear to carry the anachronistic and arguably inflammatory implication that Bangladesh, which is what the rest of us are discussing, is still 'East Pakistan'. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT1 - Head of government fleeing the country and being sentenced to death is extraordinary. All passages are cited from a quick look. Also, Oppose original blurb as misleading. Hugoaway (talk) 11:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, i comment above in support of alt1.Psephguru (talk) 11:39, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suppport ALT2 looks notable, ALT2 feels best, would be fine with ALT1, not ALT0 1brianm7 (talk) 11:57, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Original has already been renounced, but can't take it down as empty then.Psephguru (talk) 12:06, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Striked it. In the future, just put <s> and </s> between your blurb if you want to renounce your own blurb.   Jalapeño   (u t g) 12:33, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either blurb, with a preference for Alt 2. This is big news, and as previously discussed, we seem to have a broad consensus that convictions are the thing to post. Psephguru, thank you for being willing to listen; Jalapeño, thank you for helping, and for striking out the unwanted blurb rather the messing up the numbers by deleting it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.Psephguru (talk) 14:03, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 2 Good article to nominate, and this ruling has a higher standard than just “a biased partisan ruling” SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 2 more neutral wording, notable article to nominate. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it has been pulled, as there is discussion over BLPCRIME at WP:ERRORS. Natg 19 (talk) 23:25, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the blurb goes back up, it needs to be contextualised that a Bangladeshi court made the finding. Also the article itself needs correcting. At present in the first para a sentence reads "Hasina and Kamal were convicted on 17 November 2025 of crimes against humanity by the International Crimes Tribunal-I and sentenced to death, while Mamun was also found guilty but sentenced to five years in prison as he had turned into a state witness." Any reader could easily confuse The "International Crimes Tribunal-I" with being an actual international criminal tribunal, which it is not. TarnishedPathtalk 23:39, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-posted. Per broad consensus at WP:ERRORS, on top of the original consensus above, I've reverted my earlier pull and reinstated the hook. However, per a sensible observation by GreenLipstickLesbian, the simple addition that it was by a Bangladeshi court doesn't really harm the neutrality and may assuage some of the concerns raised by TarnishedPath. I've also made the nationality of the court clear in the article lead. My pull-and-then-repost action has effectively resulted in the status quo being restored, so if for any reason there's later a consensus that a further pull is required, that would be a fresh action and not subject to WP:WHEEL concerns.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 16

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RD: Sid Davidoff

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Article: Sidney Davidoff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): City & State
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American lawyer and advisor to John Lindsay. Number 12 on Nixon's Enemy List. Article is up to date and fully sourced, albeit the prose is somewhat awkward. --The Robot Parade 16:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paige Greco

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Article: Paige Greco (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian Paralympic gold medallist. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 112th Grey Cup

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Article: 112th Grey Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Canadian football, the Saskatchewan Roughriders (MVP Trevor Harris pictured) defeat the Montreal Alouettes to win the Grey Cup. (Post)
News source(s): The Globe and Mail, TSN, CBC
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Riders win their fifth Grey Cup and first in over a decade. Article needs substantial prose/updates. The Kip (contribs) 05:33, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 MotoGP World Championship

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Article: 2025 MotoGP World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorcycle racing, Marc Márquez (pictured) wins the MotoGP World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Auto Hebdo of 1
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Renominate this article since the MotoGP season was ended. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 01:39, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Barbara R. Hatton

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Article: Barbara R. Hatton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Legacy.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on 3 November. Death reported 16 November. Coqui002 (talk) 00:56, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 15

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(Posted) RD: Gertrude Degenhardt

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Article: Gertrude Degenhardt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Allgemeine Zeitung
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: German graphic artist who illustrated songs, mostly, with a sense of humor and grotesque. I began the article in 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs reviews) RD: Rosa Rosal

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Article: Rosa Rosal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Philstar
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Filipino actress and humanitarian. ~2025-34239-25 (talk) 05:02, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs reviews) RD: Franklin Sonn

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Article: Franklin Sonn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African educator, businessman, and diplomat. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Article could use additional depth supporting statements made in the article such as "Sonn's legacy is possessed of a longstanding history of community activism", and for his role as ambassador, "working to strengthen bilateral relations and represent the new democratic South Africa" (but what did he accomplish in that role?) SpencerT•C 20:17, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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