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October thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for making it possible, against rules and opposition, that a GA (on its way to FA) could appear on Independence Day, the day for which it was meant. - I guess I will now call on you for miracles ;) - My story today is about a woman and her husband who played Bach's Sonatina for us (Rheingau Musik Festival, long ago) on an upright piano, and it made me cry, and I still remember. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... and then I realised that you performed the bassist to ITN miracle also! Great. - I keep hoping for Dieter Kaufmann, last day, as so often. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Yep, it seems there are a few RD ITN nominations falling to the bottom at the moment and there's no reason at all for them not to be posted, other than admins not seeing them. I don't watch the ITN/C list on a regular basis, but happy to help where I can. I agree with you that it was a really nice thing for us to get that Nigerian DYK through, I like to try to look at the bigger picture sometimes rather than the minutiae of the rules, if it seems like everyone (and especially readers) would benefit from an IAR situation. I'll try to take a look at the stories later on! Cheers, and happy Tuesday to you.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Third miracle one day. If you could look at the last day ITNN before going to bed you could please the readers more from time to time ;) - While you posted, I listened to them playing once more, and the (good) tears came back. I should make the cantata FA some day. It was performed at the memorial concert for Frank Stähle, and - prompted by a conversation on my user talk - all sang the closing chorale together. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Carl Nielsen (FA by four colleagues, not me) is remembered on the main page! My story on the Germany National holiday is a song calling to trust the new ways, written shortly before the events leading to reunification. I saw a lovely Mozart opera production yesterday, in case of interest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A good story for a Sunday: Martin Neary conducting Purcell. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another miracle: today we have an opera singer DYK that shows her as a thinking person ;) - see also video. The nomination wasn't by me, which probably helped. I didn't see her, but the Carmen production at the Bastille Opéra that she was in last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Re "The nomination wasn't by me, which probably helped" that is a sad state of affairs. I think the principle of rewarding good work on articles has been lost a bit in recent years, but I know opinions vary on that... I'll have a watch of the video later tonight.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:17, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Happy birthday, Margaret Medlyn! (I found the article - not by me - when searching for someone whose birthday is today.) - I took a cat pic, presented by Rosiestep today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy 50th birthday, Alain Altinoglu!) - I let the video begin with a closeup of the octobass ;) Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am proud to have brought two performing women to the main page. Sadly, death kept both from performing more, one sooner the other much later. If you have little time just listen to the one who died young and see if it touches you (in today's story, - I don't want to sprinkle youtube links outside my user pages). I worked on an interesting bio yesterday, and while today's video is serious, I found one for children for him, - well, serious also. Keep watching, also on ITNN. - Latest pics from a day to the opera in Frankfurt, and afterwards (because train service is only once an hour) a lovely stroll along the Main river with illumination and the moon reflected. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am sad that I had to bring two more people there. At least the video in my story is cute, made for children. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
marked to be sung "Happily" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: thanks for the notes, and sorry for late reply. I have just listened to the Lourdes Ambriz solo, very haunting and emotional... Sad that she is gone so young. As for For the beauty of the earth, I have heard that many times, it seems to have been a staple of school and amateur choirs... a good note to give it a "happy" rendition! Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 12:48, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, it was a good break of topic. Back to those who died: how many composers are mentioned in the article of Bernhard Klee, to whose conducting of Das Lied von der Erde you can listen? And what to say for a DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Hmm yes, always a tricky one. People have accomplished careers, with numerous appearances at famous venues, but somehow you have to find a fact that's "interesting to a broad audience". Right now I'm in need of a "miracle" of my own, my RD nomination of Raila Odinga has stalled a little. I can see why people don't think he warrants a blurb, but I've been following Kenyan affairs for quite some time and it's going to be strange him not being around any more... I will read and listen more about Klee later!  — Amakuru (talk) 20:53, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Odinga: thank you for referencing! Two sentences don't have their ref at the end of the sentence, - that looks like missing something. Otherwise fine by me. Better than pinging admins to post ping those who opposed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And she appeared! Relief! - Can I interest you in the Double Concerto by Brahms, a piece I heard twice this year - see music. - Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My latest: Roberta Alexander, - listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can't believe that Toshio Hosokawa is 70 already. Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:36, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Today Sequenza III on Luciano Berio's centenary. You can listen with the score or to the first performer, Cathy Berberian (link in the work's article), - I couldn't decide ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
299 years ago, a Bach cantata was first performed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Gerda Arendt: sorry, I've not been on here too much recently. I'll take a look at the cantata tonight. One year until the 300th anniversary then!  — Amakuru (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for 2023 EFL Championship play-off final

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On 7 October 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2023 EFL Championship play-off final, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Pelly Ruddock Mpanzu said he had "completed football" after the 2023 EFL Championship play-off? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2023 EFL Championship play-off final. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2023 EFL Championship play-off final), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

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now that's what i call planning ahead

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[1]. Floquenbeam (talk) 17:16, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:POTD/2025-10-18

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Please check. Should it be one paragraph or two? The name of the image is "A Reverie". I filled out the information, but I could trim the part about Tennyson revising the poems if you think that would be better. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:41, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ssilvers, thanks for the note and for having a look at the POTD... Speaking personally, I tend to keep the blurb focused on the linked article rather than titling it directly after the image itself. In this case, we seem to have very little information about A Reverie itself, so the blurb would normally give some basic details about The Window first, as the article subject, and then discuss the drawing at the end. Perhaps something like this:
  • The Window, also known as The Songs of the Wrens, is a song cycle by Arthur Sullivan with words by Alfred, Lord Tennyson. Written in 1867–1870 and eventually published in 1871, it consists of 12 poems by Tennyson, 11 of which are set to music by Sullivan, and was eventually published in 1871. The collaboration between Sullivan and Tennyson was suggested by George Grove and agreed over a dinner at Tennyson's home on the Isle of Wight. John Everett Millais produced illustrations for the poems, but due to an initial refusal by Tennyson to allow publication he sold all but one by 1870, and was then too busy to work any further on the project. This picture, titled The Reverie, is the sole remaining illustration and was published in the first edition of The Window in 1871.
I also like to keep it at one paragraph and just have one bolded topic rather than two. What do you think?  — Amakuru (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I do not like what you suggest above, because much of that is wrong: First, the name of the song cycle is The Window; or, The Song of the Wrens. It is not "also known as". Second, it was written in 1857. Period. Your next sentence repeats the publication year again. I don't think that the fact that it was suggested by Grove is of much importance. Nor is the place where Tennyson agreed to write the poems. Especially, since neither fact has anything to do with the image. It is not clear whether Millais drew ALL the images. He drew at least some of them. Millais sold (or disposed of) whatever images he had 1868, not 1870. We should say that BY 1870, when Tennyson finally gave his consent, Millais had disposed of the images.

As long as it is clear that the name of the image is "A Reverie", I'm happy with calling it that. Also, one paragraph is fine -- I was just trying to focus in on the info about the image itself. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:46, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssilvers: oh right, apologies, I thought those were two separate titles for the work. If that's the case, shouldn't be article itself be moved to the longer title, since "The Window" on its own isn't really accurate? Incidentally, there seem to be variations on the punctuation in sources (and the publication itself doesn't actually have any punctuation, although the parts of the title are on separate lines). I might slightly favour The Window, or The Songs of the Wrens as the new title myself as it's simpler than the form with the semicolon in it, but perhaps you know more about the common name than I do. Overall, I don't mind your revised version of the blurb, although I think it may need a little more copyediting to make the prose flow nicely. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, we frequently leave out subtitles in our naming works of art. Everyone just refers to it as The Window. It has to do with the fact that the "or" and the subtitle are on separate lines of type. It is standard among Victorian and Edwardian works to punctuate it the way I do. Go ahead and make your copy edits, and I'll review late tonight. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am happy with your further changes and also with the changes by the other editor who removed the subtitle altogether, which I guess is fine, and helpfully described what the image shows, which is nice for vision impaired readers. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:02, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Raila Odinga

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Tubular-class lifeboats

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@Amakuru

Please can you revert your changes to Tubular-class lifeboats.

It isn't a standalone page, one of a great many lifeboat pages, which all follow a convention.

Many thanks Martin Ojsyork (talk) 17:46, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ojsyork: do you have any sources calling it a "Tubular-class lifeboat"? When I checked the sources in the article, I didn't see that term anywhere, in fact it seemed like "tubular lifeboat" was more of a descriptive phrase, often rendered in sentence case. In general we don't use names we have invented ourselves, the article title policy says that we should title them according to the most WP:COMMONNAME found in sources. This was also discussed prior to the recent DYK going live, and the hook was amended accordingly, so I regarded this as just a tidy up afterward, although perhaps you didn't see that chat... Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 19:09, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru
I did see your comment in the thread. However, I didn't see much evidence of anyone else agreeing with it. The page got 15,000 views the other day, with just one solitary voice who isn't happy.
I would prefer that you don't suggest I'm making up names. Tubular lifeboat is most definitely a category of lifeboat. Your attitude is not appropriate. I've created about 170 articles now, and work extremely hard to get things right. I may not get things perfect, I do make errors, but in the most part, its well constructed and correct.
It is perhaps fair to say that reference work doesn't include the term 'class'. It's not particularly something they used 100 years ago.
However, the common term these days for varying types of lifeboats is -class.
Shannon-class, Tamar-class, Trent-class, etc etc.
Please check Template:RNLI lifeboat classes
The page is (was) created in keeping with all the other lifeboat pages, MOS:VAR
And I'd very much appreciate you returning it to how it was please.
Martin Ojsyork (talk) 21:39, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AeroRoutes at WP:RSN

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I have started a new discussion on whether Aeroroutes is a reliable source because i am feeling that there are things missed out that werent mentioned in the first one, if you wanna join the discussion to mention on if its a reliable source feel free to do so, the discussion is at WP:RSN#WP:AEROROUTES Metrosfan (talk) 15:29, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redaction Request

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Hi Amakuru, hope you're well. Due to a new role I've taken on I'm requesting that the edit history and all edit descriptions of User:Footballnerd2007/Userboxes are redacted on all edits before today please? Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 11:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Footballnerd2007: I'm very well thank you, hope you are likewise. I've  Done that for you. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:53, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm good thanks, Thank you so much for this! Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 12:03, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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